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=== Schnabeltierche- is now known as Schnabeltierchen
StibaI wanted to ask if the newest Lubuntu distro still has ALSA as sound system? The reason I am asking is because of FireFox after 52 defaults to pulse audio.09:43
xanguaStiba: 16.04 does, but I always install pulseaudio09:58
StibaI thought that this was far from trivial, but I will give it a try. Thank you for the reply!10:01
=== qwerty is now known as lxlenewbie
lxlenewbiehello, how to have lxle 16  mount fat32 sdcard?16:40
wxlin general, with lxle, you need to seek support from them16:41
wxlthat said, pcmanfm should just handle it and if not, use the mount command16:42
lxlenewbiethanks. i just clicked this link from their site .16:42
wxlyeah, i've asked them to make it more clear that this is not lxle support16:42
wxlactually it seems pretty clear16:43
wxlhttp://www.lxle.net/support-options/16:43
lxlenewbiethis problem happened for me with the livecd of lubuntu as well16:43
wxl"Lubuntu IRC" suggests support for Lubuntu, not LXLE16:43
wxlis there an sdcard slot on the machine?16:44
lxlenewbiein lubuntu, iclicked the microsd card and got the error16:44
wxlwhat error?16:44
lxlenewbiemicrosd card reader... yes16:44
lxlenewbieit won't let me copy the error ..  it says something about exfat16:44
wxlwell, without knowing the error, i can't be of much help16:45
wxlbut i would watch /var/log/dmesg when you insert the sd card16:45
wxlsee if you find any errors there16:46
lxlenewbiehow do i watch that?16:46
wxltail -f /var/log/dmesg16:46
lxlenewbietx wxl. now it's not recognizing the microsd at all so there's nothing to click on.  i tapped the microsd to eject and reinsert and it flew across the room16:51
lxlenewbiearghh16:51
wxllxlenewbie: what about dmesg?16:53
lxlenewbiei typed thaat in terminal but nothing happened... a new window should open ?16:54
lxlenewbiei'll reboot and try again. tx16:59
wxltype the command17:01
wxlthen insert the sd card17:01
wxlthen report on what shows up17:01
wxlit should output in terminal17:01
Guest64371wxl ?17:33
wxlyes?17:33
Guest64371(you were helping me with microsd  prob17:33
Guest64371here's the error:17:33
Guest64371Error mounting /dev/mmcblk1p1 at /media/qwerty/3639-3761: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=999,gid=999,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/mmcblk1p1" "/media/qwerty/3639-3761"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'17:34
wxland that's what happens when you click on it or that's what shows up in dmesg?17:34
Guest64371i put thaat command you gave me into terminal17:35
Guest64371then, i clicked to open the sdcard17:35
Guest64371the error message popped up again and i was able to copy and paste it here17:35
wxlcould you put /var/log/dmesg into a pastebin?17:35
Guest64371the var/log/dmesg  doesn't open anything for me   ....17:36
wxlnot var but /var17:37
wxlyou certainly have one17:37
Guest64371tail -f /var/log/dmesg                     is what i entered in terminal17:37
wxltry opening it with the file manager17:38
wxlthen copy and put it in a pastebin17:38
Guest64371k17:38
Guest64371pastebin?17:38
wxlanyways are you sure this is exFAT? cuz that's NOT FAT1617:38
wxl!pastebin17:38
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:38
wxlif it is exFAT, you can try installing the exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packages and that should resolve the problem17:39
Guest64371the  microsd is fat3217:39
wxlthe fact that it's complaining about exfat is kind of telling though17:40
Guest64371The specified directory '/var/log/dmesg' is not valid17:41
wxlwell here's where i start wondering what lxle is doing different17:41
wxllubuntu inherits use of dmesg from ubuntu which inherits it from debian e.g. https://wiki.debian.org/dmesg17:43
wxlif lxle doesn't have it, that's weird17:43
wxlbut again, this is why we don't support lxle17:43
Guest64371i see this  mount -t       in the error message ..   is the command to open microsd  set for exfat when i need it to be fat32 ?17:44
wxli'm guessing it's exfat17:45
Guest64371(the microsd opens  in win10  & mint 1817:45
wxladd those exfat packages and try again17:45
Guest64371how to install those ?  (not coming up in search in synaptic package mgr17:48
wxlthey are most certainly there http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=exfat17:51
Guest64371?   sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils17:51
wxlthat would work17:51
wxlbut synaptic and apt pull from the same places17:51
Guest64371http://paste.ubuntu.com/24269126/17:55
wxlwhat version are you on?17:56
wxlmaybe it would be easier for me to help you if you were on lubuntu17:57
Guest64371latest   ......   but am on livecd  (to make sure everything works before install17:58
lyn||ianGuest64371, can you run sudo apt update17:58
lyn||ianthat might solve it17:58
wxllatest as in beta 2 of zesty?17:58
Guest64371latest long term release17:58
wxllatest as in the daily build of zesty?17:58
wxlok, so you're on xenial17:58
wxland what architecture?17:58
Guest64371trying sudo apt update17:58
Guest64371i'm trying to find wisest linux os   to use this lenovo n22 winbook     sync folders to desktop via syncthing and work well with opera vpn   primarily18:01
Guest64371sudo apt update  done but    microsd still wont mount18:02
wxlupdate then install18:03
Guest64371lenovo   80S60001US18:04
Guest64371install what ?18:04
wxlthe exfat packages18:04
Guest64371tx18:04
Guest64371YES!18:05
Guest64371it worked.   thanks  : )18:06
wxlthat would have been easier if you weer on lubuntu18:06
wxl*hint* *hint*18:06
Guest64371what would i understand the problem to have been based on these results?18:06
Guest64371: )18:07
wxlyou had an exFAT filesystem, not FAT32 as you guessed18:07
wxlexFAT is a proprietary Microsoft format and is not in the default repos because of that18:07
wxlso you needed to install additional packages to support that18:07
Guest64371when i ran into this problem when on lubuntu and was researching wisest way to proceed , lxle became an option to try18:08
wxlwhy is that the wisest?18:08
Guest64371should i be formatting microsd's   to use in   linux    as primary hard drive for storage as fat32 or.. ?18:09
lyn||iannot all computers can boot off sd cards18:10
Guest64371... since this lenovo only has 32gb hd,   i'll  be using the 64gb sd as storage  space to use syncthing to sync files to pc18:10
Guest64371i'm not going to boot off sd,   just use it as  storage space   to sync to pc18:10
lyn||ianaww ok18:11
wxlwhy not use the cloud?18:11
wxli mean sheesh you could make one on your local network with owncloud18:11
Guest64371... don't remember why lxle seemed like potentially wise way to go.18:11
wxlbecause they make it sound like it's so much better?18:11
wxl(their support's certainly not)18:12
wxlwith owncloud, you could even sync up to your mobile device https://owncloud.org/install/#install-clients18:13
Guest64371i needed to upgrade the way we organize our data and syncthing emerged as the way to go as it's keeping proprietary documents in my network18:13
Guest64371..not in dropbox  or on someone else's server18:13
wxlowncloud/netcloud is your OWN cloud18:14
wxlnot someone else's server18:15
Guest64371is owncloud opensource   and works across android, linux & windows?18:15
Guest64371yup, looks like it is18:20
Guest64371hmmm nextcloud ..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byw55vgAe-M18:25
Guest64371thanks again.  i appreciate your help .  bye18:32

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