[00:58] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else having issues with KDE and characters such as "´e" (which should be a single thing...)?
[02:22] <valorie> huh
[02:42] <hggdh> indeed, cannot use accents, or umlauts on KDE
[02:46] <tsimonq2> hggdh: So THAT is how you say that... that's the u with the two dots on the top, right?
[02:47] <hggdh> tsimonq2: correct :-)
[02:48] <hggdh> tsimonq2: in German it is called umlauts; in Portuguese, tremas
[02:49] <hggdh> in English... I have no clue (alough some old spellings use it, like naïve)
[02:50] <tsimonq2> hggdh: Spanish teacher talked about it too
[02:50] <tsimonq2> hggdh: Forgot how to say it in Spanish... but it exists! :D
[02:52] <hggdh> tsimonq2: I believe you,,, but I know no Spanish :-)
[02:54] <tsimonq2> hggdh: Oh, I remember how she pronounced it, but I'll probably spell it wrong... dierisies?
[02:54] <tsimonq2> hggdh: Anyways, carry on. ;)
[02:57] <hggdh> tsimonq2: dieresis, yes, sounds like it
[03:01] <tsimonq2> Ohhhhhhhhhhh that spelling makes more sense
[03:03] <hggdh> just looked up, in english it is called diaeresis (and the "ae" gets to sound like "eh"
[03:07] <tsimonq2> Ohhh so it's NOT the u?
[03:09] <hggdh> ä == ae, ö == oe, ü = ue
[03:09] <tsimonq2> Interesting
[03:12] <hggdh> I do not know the phonetic symbols, but ä sounds like an open "eh", and ö sounds like a closed "eh" (English)
[03:15] <tsimonq2> Fascinating.
[04:55] <valorie> what? of course you can use them
[04:55] <valorie> good grief
[04:56] <valorie> people using KDE software write in most of the languages on earth
[04:56] <valorie> hggdh: ^^^
[04:56] <valorie> including rtl ones
[10:19] <supriyob> When will Xubuntu 17.04 be released ?
[10:20] <ducasse> see the topic, as i told you in #ubuntu
[12:10] <hggdh> valorie: yes, they do write in almost all languages. As they do on *buntu in general
[12:13] <hggdh> but, still, accents are notworking on kubuntu
[12:59] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. The days of being able to get rid of systemd (which I despise) are gone for good?
[13:03] <ducasse> pretty much.
[13:04] <[4-tea-2]> Shame.
[13:12] <brunch875> is systemd still growing?
[13:12] <[4-tea-2]> Apparently, DNS resolution is now done by systemd. I noticed when it stopped working.
[13:12] <brunch875> at some point stallman will give up and begin calling it systemd/linux
[13:12] <brunch875> or linux/systemd
[13:13] <[4-tea-2]> :D
[13:13] <brunch875> and eventually systemd alone
[13:19] <[4-tea-2]> Not fun if your scripts break because name resolution just fails randomly. Well, back to using IP addresses. #2017
[13:31] <[4-tea-2]> Looks like my issue was with mdns4_minimal. Without that, name resolution seems (more) stable. Whatever that means.
[15:06] <Volkodav> Hi! A partial upgrade is offering to remove 20 packages mostly libgnome2 and libbonobo. Should I keep or remove?
[15:12] <TheOneMenzie> Volkodav: I'd do a full upgrade if at all possible
[15:13] <Volkodav> I just removed them and rebooted - all good so far
[15:13] <Volkodav> Still have to check around
[15:14] <TheOneMenzie> Oddly enough I have no idea what would be using Bonobo or GNOME 2 libraries in this day and age
[15:15] <ducasse> mate?
[15:20] <TheOneMenzie> ducasse: I have nothing under [ sudo apt search bonobo | grep -i installed ]
[15:22] <ducasse> TheOneMenzie: have you got mate installed?
[15:23] <TheOneMenzie> Yeah
[15:23] <TheOneMenzie> On dev branch
[15:23] <TheOneMenzie> 1.18, with GTK+ 3
[15:23] <TheOneMenzie> IIRC
[15:25] <ducasse> looks like there are several apps that depend on bonobo.
[15:26] <TheOneMenzie> Such as?
[15:26] <TheOneMenzie> Anything in MATE 1.18?
[15:27] <ducasse> 'apt rdepends libbonobo2-0' for example
[22:07] <valorie> hggdh: sorry for the late response
[22:08] <valorie> if that is so (about lack of diacritical marks in Kubuntu) please file or comment on a BR
[22:08] <valorie> tsimonq2: would be cool if you could test and comment as well
[22:10] <valorie> I set up the compose key to work, but not sure if I did so on this laptop
[22:10] <valorie> u
[22:10] <valorie> evidently not
[22:11] <valorie> UU
[22:16] <valorie> Ŭ
[22:17] <valorie> Ū
[22:18] <genii> That seems to have worked
[22:18] <valorie> yes, but I'm not seeing how to all all the alternatives yet
[22:19] <valorie> Ü
[22:19] <valorie> Ü
[22:19] <valorie> huh, how to get small u umlauted
[22:20] <k1l> ü
[22:20] <k1l> (easy on my german keyboard :X )
[22:20] <valorie> right
[22:20] <valorie> ŭ is just compose u
[22:21] <valorie> U
[22:21] <valorie> compose shift U
[22:21] <valorie> useless
[22:21] <valorie> ú
[22:21] <valorie> compose ' u, makes sense
[22:22] <valorie> Ü
[22:22] <valorie> add shift and get umlaut, makes no sense
[22:22] <valorie> pff
[22:22] <valorie> don't care enough
[22:23] <valorie> https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey
[22:23] <valorie> for those who *are* interested
[22:23] <krytarik> Well, certainly if you have to type these characters regularly, you'll have an appropriate keyboard layout set anyway..