[00:58] Is anyone else having issues with KDE and characters such as "´e" (which should be a single thing...)? [02:22] huh [02:42] indeed, cannot use accents, or umlauts on KDE [02:46] hggdh: So THAT is how you say that... that's the u with the two dots on the top, right? [02:47] tsimonq2: correct :-) [02:48] tsimonq2: in German it is called umlauts; in Portuguese, tremas [02:49] in English... I have no clue (alough some old spellings use it, like naïve) [02:50] hggdh: Spanish teacher talked about it too [02:50] hggdh: Forgot how to say it in Spanish... but it exists! :D [02:52] tsimonq2: I believe you,,, but I know no Spanish :-) [02:54] hggdh: Oh, I remember how she pronounced it, but I'll probably spell it wrong... dierisies? [02:54] hggdh: Anyways, carry on. ;) [02:57] tsimonq2: dieresis, yes, sounds like it [03:01] Ohhhhhhhhhhh that spelling makes more sense [03:03] just looked up, in english it is called diaeresis (and the "ae" gets to sound like "eh" [03:07] Ohhh so it's NOT the u? [03:09] ä == ae, ö == oe, ü = ue [03:09] Interesting [03:12] I do not know the phonetic symbols, but ä sounds like an open "eh", and ö sounds like a closed "eh" (English) [03:15] Fascinating. [04:55] what? of course you can use them [04:55] good grief [04:56] people using KDE software write in most of the languages on earth [04:56] hggdh: ^^^ [04:56] including rtl ones [10:19] When will Xubuntu 17.04 be released ? [10:20] see the topic, as i told you in #ubuntu [12:10] valorie: yes, they do write in almost all languages. As they do on *buntu in general [12:13] but, still, accents are notworking on kubuntu [12:59] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. The days of being able to get rid of systemd (which I despise) are gone for good? [13:03] pretty much. [13:04] <[4-tea-2]> Shame. [13:12] is systemd still growing? [13:12] <[4-tea-2]> Apparently, DNS resolution is now done by systemd. I noticed when it stopped working. [13:12] at some point stallman will give up and begin calling it systemd/linux [13:12] or linux/systemd [13:13] <[4-tea-2]> :D [13:13] and eventually systemd alone [13:19] <[4-tea-2]> Not fun if your scripts break because name resolution just fails randomly. Well, back to using IP addresses. #2017 [13:31] <[4-tea-2]> Looks like my issue was with mdns4_minimal. Without that, name resolution seems (more) stable. Whatever that means. [15:06] Hi! A partial upgrade is offering to remove 20 packages mostly libgnome2 and libbonobo. Should I keep or remove? [15:12] Volkodav: I'd do a full upgrade if at all possible [15:13] I just removed them and rebooted - all good so far [15:13] Still have to check around [15:14] Oddly enough I have no idea what would be using Bonobo or GNOME 2 libraries in this day and age [15:15] mate? [15:20] ducasse: I have nothing under [ sudo apt search bonobo | grep -i installed ] [15:22] TheOneMenzie: have you got mate installed? [15:23] Yeah [15:23] On dev branch [15:23] 1.18, with GTK+ 3 [15:23] IIRC [15:25] looks like there are several apps that depend on bonobo. [15:26] Such as? [15:26] Anything in MATE 1.18? [15:27] 'apt rdepends libbonobo2-0' for example === akaWolf1 is now known as akaWolf === TheOneMenzie is now known as Guest92655 === Guest92655 is now known as TheOneMenzie === TheOneMenzie is now known as Guest90298 === Guest90298 is now known as TheOneMenzie === TheOneMenzie is now known as Menzador [22:07] hggdh: sorry for the late response [22:08] if that is so (about lack of diacritical marks in Kubuntu) please file or comment on a BR [22:08] tsimonq2: would be cool if you could test and comment as well [22:10] I set up the compose key to work, but not sure if I did so on this laptop [22:10] u [22:10] evidently not [22:11] UU [22:16] Ŭ [22:17] Ū [22:18] That seems to have worked [22:18] yes, but I'm not seeing how to all all the alternatives yet [22:19] Ü [22:19] Ü [22:19] huh, how to get small u umlauted [22:20] ü [22:20] (easy on my german keyboard :X ) [22:20] right [22:20] ŭ is just compose u [22:21] U [22:21] compose shift U [22:21] useless [22:21] ú [22:21] compose ' u, makes sense [22:22] Ü [22:22] add shift and get umlaut, makes no sense [22:22] pff [22:22] don't care enough [22:23] https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey [22:23] for those who *are* interested [22:23] Well, certainly if you have to type these characters regularly, you'll have an appropriate keyboard layout set anyway..