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rchavikhi, when using admad's I18nRoute together with LocaleSelectorFilter, the locale gets reset by the dispatcher. any hints to avoid this?01:04
rchaviki'll just copy and modify it01:11
PolarcraftDid the interfaces file change from 14.04 to 16.04?03:34
sarnoldnot drastically03:36
sarnoldI can't recall any changes, but that doesn't mean there weren't any..03:36
drabPolarcraft: anything specific you're after?03:42
drabeven for a more convoluted setup with bonds and bridges it actually seems exactly the same to me03:43
drabcertainly the same fort configuring a bunch of interfaces with a few pre-/post up/down commands03:43
Polarcraftdrab, well the /etc/network/interface file doesn't contain the nic generated.03:44
drabPolarcraft: "the nic generated"?03:44
drabyou mean from install process?03:44
drabis this ubuntu server 16.04 ibnstalled from server iso install media?03:45
Polarcraftdrab, let me rephrase that, when the box was installed by the server provider the /etc/network/interfaces file did not contain the nic "ens3". When on 14.04 it would have contained that nic in the /etc/network/interfaces.03:55
drabPolarcraft: I see, so that problem is less about /etc/network/interfaces having changed and more about maybe the installer doing something different, altho that also seems unlikely, afaicremember my installs worked the same03:58
drabPolarcraft: do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ?03:58
drabthat's the only change I've seen with newer lxc/cloud images03:58
PolarcraftNo that is blank.03:58
PolarcraftI have no idea why this would have been changed though.03:58
drabok, then I got no clue, the installer should really have put it there, but again I think that's the problem, not a format change03:59
drabI don't think it is, I'm more inclined toward an install bug of some kind specific to the interfaces. for example I've had all kinds of grief on these new servers with systemd "predictable" naming03:59
drabI had to disable that for the installer to even work04:00
PolarcraftWell I don't think I can change that as the host is sadly OVH.04:00
PolarcraftI need to bridge the nic from "ens3" to a new one by the name of "ens3:0", but the way I used to do it I can't really do in this situation.04:02
tarpmanPolarcraft: is it possible your host set the system up to use systemd-networkd by default instead of ifupdown?04:03
PolarcraftWell I don't know how OVH does it for 16.04 as I am still using 14.04 for my machine.04:04
Polarcrafttarpman, they aren't doing systemd-networkd04:07
Polarcrafttarpman, you learn something new everyday. Doing what I used to do worked perfectly.04:27
johefernanEHLO!05:29
johefernanQuestion05:29
johefernanDoes 16.04 Server autoupdate?05:30
hateballjohefernan: If you tell it to during installation or afterwards05:31
johefernanDang, didn't remember05:35
andoljohefernan: grep "APT::Periodic::" /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*05:38
lordievaderGood morning06:09
rbasaksmb: any opinion on how to ship Zesty with a working tor?10:05
rbasakDisable apparmor? Or release note that apparmor needs disabling manually or something?10:05
smbrbasak, I have not looked but the reverts I documented were in x an y. zesty may or may not be different10:06
rbasakAh10:06
rbasakI'll check Zesty then. Thanks!10:06
rizonzhi guys, what are the needed repo's for server deployment using your own internal mirror ?11:14
rizonzdo I need multiverse for an example ?11:14
rizonzor universe ?11:14
Siliciumhi there11:25
cpaelzerrizonz: you don't "need" multiverse unless you want to install something depending on it11:26
Siliciumi have to create a list of all packages together with their licenses (short) and the copytight file is not machine readable :(11:26
cpaelzerrizonz: you should be able to live without for most regular cases11:26
Siliciumis there a way to get the licenses for each package installed?11:26
cpaelzerrizonz: you can also go without universe IIRC, but that obviously limits you further11:28
cpaelzerrizonz: why not go on one of your systems and apt-cache policy '*' and some awk/grep, you'll know where things come from11:30
cpaelzermaybe there is an easier way to get that thou - not sure11:30
cpaelzerSilicium: isn't that just what you look for http://askubuntu.com/questions/247757/how-do-you-find-the-licenses-for-everything-installed-on-your-system ?11:31
Siliciumi need the license11:32
cpaelzerSilicium: which is in each of those files11:34
cpaelzerSilicium: a few years there was an effort to make those somewhat machine readable which is mostly true now11:35
cpaelzerSilicium: if you only need a shortname grep for it11:35
Siliciumcpaelzer: srsly?11:35
Siliciumi should grep for values i dont know?11:35
cpaelzerSilicium: you should grep for the "License:" prefix they all have11:36
Siliciumno ubuntu 1404 the copyright files are not machine readable11:36
cpaelzerSilicium: as I said - not all are11:41
cpaelzerSilicium: but this gets you a good head start11:41
cpaelzerSilicium: for i in /usr/share/doc/*; do printf "\n%20s: " "$(basename $i)"; awk '/^License:/ {print $2}' ${i}/copyright | sort | uniq | xargs ; done11:41
rizonzcpaelzer: yeah I'm not sure11:43
rizonzI canot find a decent mirrorlist which works11:44
cpaelzerrizonz: my zesty lxc guest is fine with main only it seems11:48
cpaelzerrizonz: apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {gsub(":.*",""); print $2}' | xargs) | grep archive | uniq -c11:48
cpaelzer469 main no others11:48
cpaelzerrizonz: and I can enable disable universe/multiverse without and effect other than restricting my potential packages that I can access11:50
rizonzcpaelzer: but that cache is good enough, also when you reboot it ?11:52
cpaelzerrizonz: sure, what fails in your cae and I can check?11:56
cpaelzerrizonz: just upgraded two packages and it worked fine with the reduced pockets11:57
rizonzcpaelzer: but you use a proxy then in your apt ?11:57
rizonzof the clients11:57
cpaelzerrizonz: I only wanted to confirm that a system can live fine with the reduced set, I haven't bothered to actually mirror something11:58
cpaelzerrizonz: but IMHO it shouldn't mind where it comes from11:59
cpaelzerrizonz: maybe there is the difference, my system only "asks" for main now and is working11:59
cpaelzerrizonz: are you trying to set up a reduced mirror but the systems are unmodified and ask for main, universe, ... ?12:00
cpaelzerrizonz: and that fetch fails then?12:00
rizonzcpaelzer: mhh12:01
rizonzI want to see what is in multiverse and universe, just some simple list12:01
cpaelzerrizonz: you can tweak sometihng like this to your needs http://paste.ubuntu.com/24267442/12:12
rizonzcpaelzer: thannk, but there is no online reference ?12:18
cpaelzerrizonz: you'd think there is one - and there might be but I don't know12:18
cpaelzerrizonz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24267506/12:19
cpaelzerrizonz: well, if you mean an online reference what a package is in in general (and not something specific to your system) that might be easy as I'm sure this is on LP somewhere12:19
cpaelzerrizonz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<pkgname>12:20
rizonzcpaelzer: yeah will check out12:20
cpaelzerrizonz: you will see the pocket per release in the table there12:20
rizonzit's dofficult to decide what to mirror12:20
rizonzat least I know I don't need i386 anymore :)12:21
rbasakcpaelzer: I'm not sure the architecture selected should be the host architecture. It should be the architecture of the image selected.13:09
rbasak(uvtool)13:09
cpaelzerrbasak: does anybody ever really use it cross arch?13:09
cpaelzerok, then the image arch - fine with me13:09
rbasakcpaelzer: since qemu can do cross arch I'm not sure we should rule it out13:10
rbasakcpaelzer: if it's not too difficult I think?13:10
cpaelzerrbasak: looking into it13:10
rbasakcpaelzer: if --backing-image-file is ued, then we'd need a --image-arch option that could default to the host arch.13:10
cpaelzerrbasak: well I'm only changing the default path and provide the templates - IFF it is overly complex for what we gain we might keep it as I proposed13:12
cpaelzerrbasak: but let me look at it first13:12
cpaelzerrbasak: ok looked at it, not that it would be impossible, but I really think that would make it more complex and error prone13:17
cpaelzerrbasak: so far most handling on filters is kept to simplestreams for a reason13:17
cpaelzerrbasak: to pick the arch from the image would need to understand those plus the case on backing image you mentioned13:18
cpaelzerrbasak: I think even for cross arch usage the fact that there now willa ctually be arch-templates will help13:18
cpaelzerrbasak: and one doing that might also add a --template command13:18
rbasakcpaelzer: not really understanding the filters. Just picking up the arch metadata once an image is selected.13:18
rbasakcpaelzer: how about as a compromise having an --image-arch option which defaults to the platform arch?13:19
rbasakcpaelzer: and always use that instead of inspecting the image metadata.13:19
rbasakcpaelzer: then at least it's overridable and separable internally from the platform arch.13:19
rbasaks/platform/host/13:19
cpaelzerrbasak: yeah that sounds fine to me13:20
cpaelzerrbasak: let me write something for that13:20
rbasakThanks13:20
cpaelzerrbasak: pushed with the change13:43
cpaelzerrbasak: I still would think I'd always just use --template if I need to override instead of --image-arch, but I'm fine to hear other peoples need13:43
cpaelzerrbasak: so in terms of simplicity and less code I'd still vouch for my MR before this commit, but follow your decision once you can take a look at it13:44
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jamespagezul: I expect you to hold me to account for completely disabling the unit tests for vmware-nsx - I raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1676712 to cover it13:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1676712 in vmware-nsx (Ubuntu) "random sqlite related failure during unit testing" [Medium,Triaged]13:53
lucidguyOk, Xeon E5 running at 75-80 all the time, bad?  Google tells me the maximum running temp is 73c13:54
zuljamespage: heh13:55
DammitJimhow can I easily find the dependencies on a package I installed?14:32
rbasakcpaelzer: thanks for taking bug 1663671! The existing tests are overly complex IMHO. Feel free to cut them down massively.14:43
ubottubug 1663671 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "dep8 tests fail on infrastructure" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166367114:43
cpaelzerrbasak: yeah I wanted to take a look to get it working there14:56
cpaelzerrbasak: thanks for letting me know that dropping some might be acceptable14:56
cpaelzerrbasak: I looked at another issue only to realize you posted the update I wanted to write, so I was assinging myself here just to take a look :-)14:57
rizonzguys do we need universe/multiverse for webserver, nodeJS deployments and such ?14:57
drabhi15:06
drabhow do ppl do failover for a nas hosting shared homedir? or you just dont' and use some other FS?15:07
cpaelzerrizonz: FYI nodejs is universe15:07
cpaelzernodejs package15:07
drabgiven that both nas boxes r on zfs I was thinking I could minimize the problem by taking a snap, moving that over to the other box, restore, then stop the first one, snap/restore one last time and move back to old primary15:08
drabbut it involves downtime during last sync, which that said should be pretty small15:08
drab(writes volume isn't crazy)15:08
rizonzcpaelzer: and multiverse ?15:10
rizonzis there a lot of crap we mostly use ?15:10
rbasakcpaelzer or maybe nacc: triaging bug 1676263. Looks like a regular HWE-related breakage. Do you know how we handle these right now?15:10
ubottubug 1676263 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu) "iscsitarget-dkms 1.4.20.3+svn502-2ubuntu4: iscsitarget kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167626315:10
cpaelzerrizonz: as discussed earlier today that depends on tha packages you need15:10
cpaelzerrbasak: there is a master bug to dup it to15:10
rizonzcpaelzer: I know but I'm trying to catorize it some15:11
cpaelzerrbasak: I don't have the number without searching, but nacc will have it available I hope15:12
rbasakbug 1668808 perhaps?15:13
ubottubug 1668808 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu Xenial) "iscsitarget-dkms 1.4.20.3+svn502-2ubuntu4: iscsitarget kernel module failed to build [error: field ‘rx_hash’ has incomplete type]" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166880815:13
rbasakThere seem to be a number of different "master bugs" so I'm not entirely confident. I'll wait for nacc.15:14
rbasakThanks cpaelzer. Good to know there is an answer :)15:15
naccrbasak: one sec15:16
naccfor trusty failures with 14.04.5: LP: #161262715:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1612627 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu Trusty) "iscsitarget-dkms 1.4.20.3+svn499-0ubuntu2.1 fails to build on linux-generic-lts-xenial kernel " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161262715:17
naccfor xenial failures with 16.04.2: LP: #166880815:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1668808 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu Xenial) "iscsitarget-dkms 1.4.20.3+svn502-2ubuntu4: iscsitarget kernel module failed to build [error: field ‘rx_hash’ has incomplete type]" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166880815:17
naccrbasak: cpaelzer --^15:17
rbasaknacc: thanks!15:18
rbasaknacc, powersj, cpaelzer: I'm going to tag those master bugs "triage" to help triagers find them quickly.15:18
cpaelzerrbasak: good idea, we should make our wiki state (and link) those and similar hints we develop for triaging over time15:19
cpaelzerit might even do so already and I didn't check15:19
powersjjgrimm:15:24
powersjwoops.. jgrimm: https://code.launchpad.net/~powersj/ubuntu-cdimage/server-zesty-ppc64el/+merge/32118715:24
* jgrimm looks15:25
rizonzmhh it takes forever for apt-mirror to finish, I only download 64 bits 16.04, is apt-mirror that slow these days ?15:26
jgrimmpowersj, cool, thanks15:28
blacknred0hi - question... I am migrating from vmware esxi to openstack, but that is not my question.... my question is that I have a raid 5 (3 hdd) and I am wondering if when I mount them I need to mount them all or only the one that is recognized?15:32
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naccblacknred0: you don't mount individual disks in a raid515:32
blacknred0I guess that my confusion is that one of the drives show as vmware vmfs and another as linux lvm15:32
blacknred0nacc: do i use an utility like mdadm?15:33
naccblacknred0: so it's not recognizing your raid5 at all?15:33
naccblacknred0: how was your raid5 configured before?15:33
blacknred0nacc: doesn't seem like, no15:33
UssatYou dont want to "migrate" your raid5, you want to recreate it in openstack15:34
blacknred0nacc: when i configured (which it was a long time ago and my memory doesn't fail me).... I literally let the dell utility handle it and when I boot esxi, I think it recognize the disk as one15:35
blacknred0Ussat: but doing that means that I will look my vdmk's, right?15:35
Ussatlook ?15:35
blacknred0oops... I will lose*15:36
Ussatwell, ya.....I mean, you are migrating them , right ?15:36
blacknred0Ussat: well... yes.  I want to move away from esxi to openstack ... and my thought was that I could mount the raid and have openstack point to the vdmk's15:37
UssatThe best way to do it is to create what you want in openstack and then migrate the data15:38
blacknred0but, if I am following your logic... you are saying that is not that simple15:38
Ussatno, it is not, raid is never simple15:38
Ussatreacreate what you want in openstack, raid5 and all, then migrate the data15:38
blacknred0Ussat: ok... you gave me something to think about15:38
Ussatand have backups15:39
blacknred0I think that I will probably have to add more drives and create the data using openstack and then migrate from one drive block to the other15:39
blacknred0thanks nacc and Ussat !15:40
Ussatadd more drives to the current raid ? no, just rea create your setup in openstack, then migrate the data15:40
blacknred0Ussat: but to create the setup I would need to mount the drive or drives, right?15:42
blacknred0or are you saying to move the vdmk's to an external hdd and configure the raid using openstack and then move the data back?15:42
cyphermoxsmoser: I'm trying an install of subiquity and getting cloud-init started and applying a default config when the installer boots, but once I reboot onto the final system (cloud-init is installed, and only has /var/lib/cloud/seed/user-data), cloud-init apparently doesn't run to apply my username/password and hostname for the installed system15:54
cyphermoxany way I can debug this and figure out why it's not starting or not applying the seed?15:54
cyphermoxrharper: ^15:54
rharpercyphermox: zesty?  you really want to populate /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net/{user-data,meta-data,network-config}15:55
rharperin /run/cloud-init/ds-identify.log will likely show that it didn't detect any user-data and the zesty behavior is to not run cloud-init;15:56
Ussatblacknred0, I am saying create a brand spanking new openstack with your NEW raid5 avd copy the data over to it15:57
smosero/16:01
jgrimmsmoser, wrong channel16:01
smoser\o/16:01
smosercyphermox, rharper is right. you have to provide meta-data and user-data for the nocloud seed to be considered valid.16:02
cyphermoxrharper: yes, zesty16:03
blacknred0Ussat: got it :P .... thanks mate16:03
cyphermoxthere is a meta-data too, but not network-config AFAIK16:03
cyphermoxthe intent of network-config was for it to be disabled since it was version 1; maybe this has changed now?16:03
rharpernetwork-config is optional; but you want a 'nocloud-net' dir under and put the files there16:03
cyphermoxrharper: yeah, that exists16:04
cyphermoxnocloud-(something), I didn't really notice16:04
cyphermoxI'm about to boot the VM elsewhere to do look at the directory tree again16:04
rharperok, well then a tar of /run/cloud-init  /var/log/cloud-init* and /var/lib/cloud*  and I can help debug16:04
rharperw.r.t network-config; you can't disable since you're rendering netplan IIUC16:05
rharpererr, _can_16:05
cpaelzerrbasak: FYI http works on localhost now, ssl still fails but I'll no more get to that this evening16:30
cpaelzerrbasak: on squid tests I mean16:30
rbasak\o/ thanks!16:31
eanyxhi19:25
eanyxI need to make a cluster with an apps which was not design to be in cluster. Is it possible to make a cluster with it?19:25
eanyxi use haproxy and keepalived19:25
patdk-lpno19:32
patdk-lpit's very unlikely you can cluster something that was not designed to cluster19:33
patdk-lpyou can use haproxy and keepalived, but that will NOT make a cluster, it will just make failover19:33
patdk-lpif it was clustered, you wouldn't need keepalived or haproxy19:33
eanyxI need failover at first place19:33
eanyxbut what is mandatory for failover?19:33
patdk-lpdunno, that depends on you and your app19:34
eanyxI've two nodes, and I need the unicity of writing to rabbitmq queue shared between two instance of the same binary19:34
patdk-lpit could be as simple as just moving an ip19:34
patdk-lpit could be as complex as moving filesystems, applications, vm's, ip's, nic ports, ....19:35
patdk-lpwhat is a unicity?19:35
eanyxI've been sais that my apps need to be "reentrant"?19:35
eanyxthe uniqueness of data written on disk19:37
MystaMaxhello! In previous versions of Ubuntu, I had to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules when creating templates for VMs. Is this no longer necessary because of systemd/udev? The file does not exist.19:46
compdocright, it doesnt seem to be used anymore, although you can probably create the file manually19:47
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apachenoobis it recommended to create virtual hosts on a regular users home directory or in the var/www directory?20:59
rizonzdamn I need to findout how large the 16.04 repo(s) are21:32
sarnoldrizonz: it's an upper limit of 1.1 TB, that's what mine covers for 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, and devel21:34
rizonzsarnold: ok, but what do you mirror then ?21:35
sarnoldeverything21:35
rizonzupdates, security as well ?21:35
rizonz1.1Tb in total ?21:35
sarnoldI skip security, those are migrated to -updates every few hours21:36
rizonzok21:36
rizonzso I should skip them as well21:36
rizonzdoes it actually use security ?21:36
rizonzon an apt-get upgrade ?21:36
sarnoldwell, I should have said that I skip security.ubuntu.com; the -security pocket is on the main mirrors too21:37
rizonzyes ok21:38
sarnoldhere's where I started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/Scripts  -- if you strictly want only 16.04 there are probably better ways to get there; maybe debmirror or aptly21:38
rizonzI do an apt-mirror21:38
sarnoldhrm, I don't see any references to the by-hash infrastructure in that script. it otherwise looks nice.21:41
drabrizonz: du -hsc /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/us.archive.ubuntu.com/ -> 348G21:46
drabthat's for trusty and xenial, only main sources21:47
drabboth amd64 and i38621:47
rizonzdrab: ok, but we need universe and multiverse as well I gues21:47
rizonz*guess21:47
drabyeah, they ar in there, I do only main for -src21:48
drabbut all for binary21:48
drabactually,I'm forgetful it seems, we do -src for all too21:48
rizonzok, I do this atm: https://pastebin.com/qUgnH8KL21:49
drabrizonz: http://dpaste.com/29N4ED721:50
drabplus the src line above21:50
rizonzdrab: and that size is 384G ?21:51
rizonz*34821:51
drab360G, I du'ed the old mirror at first, the berkeley one we're using now is 360G21:52
rizonzwhy is mine 500G and growing ?21:52
drabdo you run clean?21:52
drabI'm using apt-mirror21:52
rizonznot yet21:52
draband I hvae a clean job at the end21:52
rizonzit's downloading21:52
drabfree's quite a bit each time21:52
draboh, I see21:52
rizonzbut does it put all first in skel ?21:53
* rizonz forgot21:53
drabI got not clue about that, been running this daily at 4am for the past year, don't think I've ever seen it go up to 500GB21:53
drabrizonz: not ime21:53
drablike it doesn't go up and then come down if that's what you're asking21:53
rizonzmhh this is weird21:54
rizonzmy lines are not weird are they ?21:55
drab~21:55
drab:P21:55
sarnoldI don't think I've seen deb-amd64 before; I'm more familiar with deb [arch=amd64]21:56
drabsarnold: that's what I'm using with apt-mirror, works fine21:56
drabI think they are equivalent21:56
sarnoldokay21:56
rizonzyeah me the same21:56
drabrizonz: don't see anything wrong with your lines, they match my paste21:56
MystaMaxcompdoc, ah sorry I didn't know you replied. Thanks for the information!21:57
draboh, wait21:57
draboh, nm, that was accounted for too21:58
drabI just  noticed yuo had the installer lines too21:58
rizonzdrab: yap I need pxe boot22:00
rizonzis there a faster way for du -h ?22:01
sarnoldnot easily22:02
sarnolddf -h is way faster; if you have it on its own filesystem it'll be close22:02
rizonzyeah true but centos is there as well22:02
rizonz589G22:02
rizonzand growing22:02
rizonzsarnold: is archive not bigger then normal ?22:06
sarnoldrizonz: every time I look at mine, it's somewhere between 1.01 and 1.11 TB22:07
rizonzsarnold: for both of them ?22:07
sarnold"both"?22:07
rizonzyes you said precise and xenial22:08
sarnoldah. I've got precise, trusty, xenial, yakkety, and devel on this22:08
rizonzyes so I don't get it why mine is that large22:11
rizonzsarnold: I'm looking for a clue22:14
sarnoldrizonz: makes sense; I just don't know what would make sense for a partial copy22:15
rizonzsarnold: do you apt-mirror it or rsync ?22:15
sarnoldrsync22:16
rizonzok22:16
rizonzsarnold: which script ?22:16
rizonzI think apt-mirror is getting shit in22:17
sarnoldrizonz: I started with the bits on that wiki page ^^^ and modified for my local environment22:17
rizonzsarnold: why do we use archive and not release ?22:19
sarnoldrizonz: for my use I wanted all ubuntu packages unpacked on my local system22:20
sarnoldincluding all updates22:21
rizonzthe question is, what should we use22:21
rizonzsarnold: mhh ok, can you give an example of your script, I need to look as I don't see exactly how they exclude in a decent way22:23
sarnoldrizonz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24270684/22:24
rizonzsarnold: but there you don't exclude security ?22:26
sarnoldrizonz: sorry, I mispoked earlier; I just don't bother to mirror security.ubuntu.com22:26
rizonzsarnold: oh indeed, it's a different URL22:27
rizonzsarnold: you use ubimirror or debmirror ?23:00
sarnoldrizonz: two-stage rsync: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24270684/23:04
rizonzsarnold: why that ?23:06
sarnoldrizonz: because it's the easiest way to get everything quickly23:06
rizonzsarnold: ok23:06
rizonzoh, otherwise it delete-after in the run ?23:06
rizonzI wonder, how do I make sure I don't have crap but het the installer as well23:07
rizonzoh men this sucks :P23:08
rizonzcentos and fedora were easier23:08
rizonzsarnold: mhh rsync is actually kinda useless between i386 and amd6423:15
sarnold?23:15
sarnoldlike I said; I wanted _everything_23:15
rizonzyes true, do you still use 32bits then ?23:15
sarnoldif that isn't a good description of your problem, maybe rsync isn't the best tool :)23:15
rizonzit is but not for Ubuntu repo :P23:16
sarnoldno, but my users do :)23:16
sarnoldso I wanted it easy available to unpack23:16
rizonzget some other users23:16
rizonzwhy do they use 32bits ?23:16

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