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dobeydid that person mean xperia?00:45
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mardykenvandine: hi! Is there a way to know from QML whether the content-hub is accessible?13:30
mardykenvandine: I'm thinking of having a snap app using the content hub by default, but falling back to other means if either the content hub service is not installed or not reachable13:31
kenvandinemardy, that's tricky in QML13:32
kenvandineso you mean having the qml component installed but detecting if the service isn't available?13:32
mardykenvandine: something like a "valid" property13:32
mardykenvandine: exactly13:32
mardykenvandine: the QML components will always be installed, because they are provided by the ubuntu-app-platform13:33
kenvandinejust instantiating the ContentHub singleton will try to start the service13:33
kenvandineah good point13:33
kenvandinemardy, so ContentHub.isValid ?13:34
mardykenvandine: something like that13:34
kenvandinethe other thing is what if the dbus service isn't accessible from the snap13:34
kenvandinelike not using the right interface13:34
kenvandinemardy, please file a bug for that13:35
mardykenvandine: or the interface is not connected13:35
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mardykenvandine: thanks, will do soon13:35
kenvandinemardy, thanks, i'll link to it in our backlog13:36
javier4abeato: you got a minute?14:07
oSoMoNmterry, thanks for your review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/mir-libs/+merge/321151 , I’ve just updated it14:08
abeatojavier4, yep14:08
javier4abeato: after a lot of issues (I'm not, and perhaps I will never be a coder), I got to the last (I hope) step. My build fails with a simple14:09
javier4https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VBnQiXHD/14:09
abeatojavier4, just remove that function if you are not using it14:10
javier4This was the function that I redefined to add my new state MTK2_RIL_UNSOL_RESPONSE_REGISTRATION_SUSPENDED14:10
javier4It's the root of all the fix  :D14:10
abeatojavier4, if you think you should be using it then there is another error :)14:10
javier4abeato: I want it to be used instead of the one defined inside rilmodem/network-registration.c14:12
abeatojavier4, well, then there is some issue because you are not actually using the function14:16
mardykenvandine: hi again! bug 167689314:28
ubot5bug 1676893 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "Inform client if ContentHub service is not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167689314:28
mardykenvandine: can I assign it to myself? I could start working on it right away14:28
kenvandinemardy, that would be awesome :)14:28
kenvandinethx14:28
mardykenvandine: ok! "valid" or "isValid"?14:30
mardykenvandine: usually it's "valid", in QML, and "isValid" in C++14:30
kenvandinei think isValid is more consistent with qt right?14:30
kenvandineyes14:30
kenvandinethat :)14:30
kenvandinemardy, sounds good14:30
oSoMoNmterry, webbrowser-app snap updated in the edge channel14:36
javier4abeato: should I redefine also ril_netreg_probe passing it my customized ril_delayed_register and then use this new function as .probe field of ofono_netreg_driver?14:39
abeatojavier4, yes, I think so14:40
javier4abeato: Ok. Read you later. It's a menace. :D14:41
abeato  lol14:41
thepeterare developers for touch apps here?18:53
dobeysome are18:54
dobeyalso #ubuntu-app-devel18:54
thepeteranyway if you read this question ... is there way to create apps in different distro? - meaning using pure QtCreator18:55
dobeythere was work to get the SDK packaged as a snap, which would make it easier to install on other distros18:56
thepeteruhm I am experimenting with raspbian - so no snap AFAIK18:57
dobeybut general answer is you don't /need/ qtcreator or the sdk itself to create apps. it's just one way to do it18:57
thepeteras I heard :) just to open text editor and go for html5 ... and then there comes the design standards, which If I would start typin manually, I would probably never finish the job :)19:00
dobeywell you can use qml without the sdk; or plain qt; or anything you want really19:00
dobeyyou will of course need to install the runtime to be able to run an app built around the sdk frameworks though19:01
thepeterfor now I have wrote some things in python3 and using them though terminal, and I would like to go to gui19:02
thepeteruf mhm19:02
thepetermaybe if would be usefull if there is simple one-file example in html5 which one can start editing and use as playground directly on phone :)19:05
thepeterit ^ would be ...19:05
thepeterdobey, thanks either way19:06
dobeysure19:06
thepeterbtw is there at least howto on creating complete html5 app without SDK? (google is not much of a use in it)19:24
dobeyi don't know. #ubuntu-app-devel is a better place for asking questions about developing apps though19:26
thepetertrue thanks19:26
alphiif I wanted to get started with touch dev, which phone can I currently buy?19:27
dobeyi don't know if any retail ubuntu phones are in stock as new anywhere. you can buy a nexus 4 and install ubuntu on it, or nexus 5, or a meizu pro 5 android version, or you can possibly find an ubuntu phone on ebay or similar19:30
thepeteralphi, BQ aquaris M10 is on the page to buy but BQ says out of stock19:30
geniihttps://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/19:33
geniiOf those listed, N5 is a community port but seems best documented and the hardware is well understood. N4 is getting old now.19:33
alphithanks, not having a retail device available certainly makes it a bit harder to mess around with19:44
pmcgowanthere is a fairphone 2 port well underway19:45
pmcgowannot available until end of june though19:47
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