[00:45] <dobey> did that person mean xperia?
[13:30] <mardy> kenvandine: hi! Is there a way to know from QML whether the content-hub is accessible?
[13:31] <mardy> kenvandine: I'm thinking of having a snap app using the content hub by default, but falling back to other means if either the content hub service is not installed or not reachable
[13:32] <kenvandine> mardy, that's tricky in QML
[13:32] <kenvandine> so you mean having the qml component installed but detecting if the service isn't available?
[13:32] <mardy> kenvandine: something like a "valid" property
[13:32] <mardy> kenvandine: exactly
[13:33] <mardy> kenvandine: the QML components will always be installed, because they are provided by the ubuntu-app-platform
[13:33] <kenvandine> just instantiating the ContentHub singleton will try to start the service
[13:33] <kenvandine> ah good point
[13:34] <kenvandine> mardy, so ContentHub.isValid ?
[13:34] <mardy> kenvandine: something like that
[13:34] <kenvandine> the other thing is what if the dbus service isn't accessible from the snap
[13:34] <kenvandine> like not using the right interface
[13:35] <kenvandine> mardy, please file a bug for that
[13:35] <mardy> kenvandine: or the interface is not connected
[13:35] <mardy> kenvandine: thanks, will do soon
[13:36] <kenvandine> mardy, thanks, i'll link to it in our backlog
[14:07] <javier4> abeato: you got a minute?
[14:08] <oSoMoN> mterry, thanks for your review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/mir-libs/+merge/321151 , I’ve just updated it
[14:08] <abeato> javier4, yep
[14:09] <javier4> abeato: after a lot of issues (I'm not, and perhaps I will never be a coder), I got to the last (I hope) step. My build fails with a simple
[14:09] <javier4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VBnQiXHD/
[14:10] <abeato> javier4, just remove that function if you are not using it
[14:10] <javier4> This was the function that I redefined to add my new state MTK2_RIL_UNSOL_RESPONSE_REGISTRATION_SUSPENDED
[14:10] <javier4> It's the root of all the fix  :D
[14:10] <abeato> javier4, if you think you should be using it then there is another error :)
[14:12] <javier4> abeato: I want it to be used instead of the one defined inside rilmodem/network-registration.c
[14:16] <abeato> javier4, well, then there is some issue because you are not actually using the function
[14:28] <mardy> kenvandine: hi again! bug 1676893
[14:28] <mardy> kenvandine: can I assign it to myself? I could start working on it right away
[14:28] <kenvandine> mardy, that would be awesome :)
[14:28] <kenvandine> thx
[14:30] <mardy> kenvandine: ok! "valid" or "isValid"?
[14:30] <mardy> kenvandine: usually it's "valid", in QML, and "isValid" in C++
[14:30] <kenvandine> i think isValid is more consistent with qt right?
[14:30] <kenvandine> yes
[14:30] <kenvandine> that :)
[14:30] <kenvandine> mardy, sounds good
[14:36] <oSoMoN> mterry, webbrowser-app snap updated in the edge channel
[14:39] <javier4> abeato: should I redefine also ril_netreg_probe passing it my customized ril_delayed_register and then use this new function as .probe field of ofono_netreg_driver?
[14:40] <abeato> javier4, yes, I think so
[14:41] <javier4> abeato: Ok. Read you later. It's a menace. :D
[14:41] <abeato>   lol
[18:53] <thepeter> are developers for touch apps here?
[18:54] <dobey> some are
[18:54] <dobey> also #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:55] <thepeter> anyway if you read this question ... is there way to create apps in different distro? - meaning using pure QtCreator
[18:56] <dobey> there was work to get the SDK packaged as a snap, which would make it easier to install on other distros
[18:57] <thepeter> uhm I am experimenting with raspbian - so no snap AFAIK
[18:57] <dobey> but general answer is you don't /need/ qtcreator or the sdk itself to create apps. it's just one way to do it
[19:00] <thepeter> as I heard :) just to open text editor and go for html5 ... and then there comes the design standards, which If I would start typin manually, I would probably never finish the job :)
[19:00] <dobey> well you can use qml without the sdk; or plain qt; or anything you want really
[19:01] <dobey> you will of course need to install the runtime to be able to run an app built around the sdk frameworks though
[19:02] <thepeter> for now I have wrote some things in python3 and using them though terminal, and I would like to go to gui
[19:02] <thepeter> uf mhm
[19:05] <thepeter> maybe if would be usefull if there is simple one-file example in html5 which one can start editing and use as playground directly on phone :)
[19:05] <thepeter> it ^ would be ...
[19:06] <thepeter> dobey, thanks either way
[19:06] <dobey> sure
[19:24] <thepeter> btw is there at least howto on creating complete html5 app without SDK? (google is not much of a use in it)
[19:26] <dobey> i don't know. #ubuntu-app-devel is a better place for asking questions about developing apps though
[19:26] <thepeter> true thanks
[19:27] <alphi> if I wanted to get started with touch dev, which phone can I currently buy?
[19:30] <dobey> i don't know if any retail ubuntu phones are in stock as new anywhere. you can buy a nexus 4 and install ubuntu on it, or nexus 5, or a meizu pro 5 android version, or you can possibly find an ubuntu phone on ebay or similar
[19:30] <thepeter> alphi, BQ aquaris M10 is on the page to buy but BQ says out of stock
[19:33] <genii> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/
[19:33] <genii> Of those listed, N5 is a community port but seems best documented and the hardware is well understood. N4 is getting old now.
[19:44] <alphi> thanks, not having a retail device available certainly makes it a bit harder to mess around with
[19:45] <pmcgowan> there is a fairphone 2 port well underway
[19:47] <pmcgowan> not available until end of june though