[00:45] did that person mean xperia? === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass === salem_ is now known as _salem === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === vigo_ is now known as vigo === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [13:30] kenvandine: hi! Is there a way to know from QML whether the content-hub is accessible? [13:31] kenvandine: I'm thinking of having a snap app using the content hub by default, but falling back to other means if either the content hub service is not installed or not reachable [13:32] mardy, that's tricky in QML [13:32] so you mean having the qml component installed but detecting if the service isn't available? [13:32] kenvandine: something like a "valid" property [13:32] kenvandine: exactly [13:33] kenvandine: the QML components will always be installed, because they are provided by the ubuntu-app-platform [13:33] just instantiating the ContentHub singleton will try to start the service [13:33] ah good point [13:34] mardy, so ContentHub.isValid ? [13:34] kenvandine: something like that [13:34] the other thing is what if the dbus service isn't accessible from the snap [13:34] like not using the right interface [13:35] mardy, please file a bug for that [13:35] kenvandine: or the interface is not connected === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:35] kenvandine: thanks, will do soon [13:36] mardy, thanks, i'll link to it in our backlog [14:07] abeato: you got a minute? [14:08] mterry, thanks for your review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/mir-libs/+merge/321151 , I’ve just updated it [14:08] javier4, yep [14:09] abeato: after a lot of issues (I'm not, and perhaps I will never be a coder), I got to the last (I hope) step. My build fails with a simple [14:09] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VBnQiXHD/ [14:10] javier4, just remove that function if you are not using it [14:10] This was the function that I redefined to add my new state MTK2_RIL_UNSOL_RESPONSE_REGISTRATION_SUSPENDED [14:10] It's the root of all the fix :D [14:10] javier4, if you think you should be using it then there is another error :) [14:12] abeato: I want it to be used instead of the one defined inside rilmodem/network-registration.c [14:16] javier4, well, then there is some issue because you are not actually using the function [14:28] kenvandine: hi again! bug 1676893 [14:28] bug 1676893 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "Inform client if ContentHub service is not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676893 [14:28] kenvandine: can I assign it to myself? I could start working on it right away [14:28] mardy, that would be awesome :) [14:28] thx [14:30] kenvandine: ok! "valid" or "isValid"? [14:30] kenvandine: usually it's "valid", in QML, and "isValid" in C++ [14:30] i think isValid is more consistent with qt right? [14:30] yes [14:30] that :) [14:30] mardy, sounds good [14:36] mterry, webbrowser-app snap updated in the edge channel [14:39] abeato: should I redefine also ril_netreg_probe passing it my customized ril_delayed_register and then use this new function as .probe field of ofono_netreg_driver? [14:40] javier4, yes, I think so [14:41] abeato: Ok. Read you later. It's a menace. :D [14:41] lol [18:53] are developers for touch apps here? [18:54] some are [18:54] also #ubuntu-app-devel [18:55] anyway if you read this question ... is there way to create apps in different distro? - meaning using pure QtCreator [18:56] there was work to get the SDK packaged as a snap, which would make it easier to install on other distros [18:57] uhm I am experimenting with raspbian - so no snap AFAIK [18:57] but general answer is you don't /need/ qtcreator or the sdk itself to create apps. it's just one way to do it [19:00] as I heard :) just to open text editor and go for html5 ... and then there comes the design standards, which If I would start typin manually, I would probably never finish the job :) [19:00] well you can use qml without the sdk; or plain qt; or anything you want really [19:01] you will of course need to install the runtime to be able to run an app built around the sdk frameworks though [19:02] for now I have wrote some things in python3 and using them though terminal, and I would like to go to gui [19:02] uf mhm [19:05] maybe if would be usefull if there is simple one-file example in html5 which one can start editing and use as playground directly on phone :) [19:05] it ^ would be ... [19:06] dobey, thanks either way [19:06] sure [19:24] btw is there at least howto on creating complete html5 app without SDK? (google is not much of a use in it) [19:26] i don't know. #ubuntu-app-devel is a better place for asking questions about developing apps though [19:26] true thanks [19:27] if I wanted to get started with touch dev, which phone can I currently buy? [19:30] i don't know if any retail ubuntu phones are in stock as new anywhere. you can buy a nexus 4 and install ubuntu on it, or nexus 5, or a meizu pro 5 android version, or you can possibly find an ubuntu phone on ebay or similar [19:30] alphi, BQ aquaris M10 is on the page to buy but BQ says out of stock [19:33] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/ [19:33] Of those listed, N5 is a community port but seems best documented and the hardware is well understood. N4 is getting old now. [19:44] thanks, not having a retail device available certainly makes it a bit harder to mess around with [19:45] there is a fairphone 2 port well underway [19:47] not available until end of june though === Isla_de_Muerte is now known as NwS === salem_ is now known as _salem