[00:03] <skinux> Where is the default web root for Jetty?
[00:19] <Jan\\> xrandr_laptop: I try to manually install grub it says: could not find device for //boot: not found or not a block device.
[00:20] <xrandr_laptop> odd
[00:21] <Jan\\> xrandr_laptop:  command used         grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[00:22] <xrandr_laptop> that should work
[00:22] <xrandr_laptop> did you check your legacy settings in bios?
[00:22] <Jan\\> yes but it gives the error above
[00:22] <Jan\\> did not find a legacy disk support option in biosè
[00:22] <Jan\\> BIOS*
[00:24] <Bashing-om> Jan\\: Maybe show us what you are working with ; pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' , Maybe try a different syntax ?
[00:29] <Jan\\> Bashing-om:  https://pastebin.com/bykww1mk
[00:35] <Bashing-om> Jan\\: Try as '
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Jan\\: Try as ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt . Reboot into the install .
[00:41] <Basketball> why is compiz window rules not working
[00:41] <Basketball> gnome
[00:45] <kk4ewt> Basketball,  install the tweak-tool and install the gnome-shell-extension for what you are wanting
[00:46] <Basketball> kk4ewt, which gnome shell extension there are a ton of them
[00:46] <kk4ewt> Basketball, bingo
[00:47] <kk4ewt> gnome3 is about their extensions
[00:47] <themyth> anyone use HexChat here?
[00:47] <Basketball> kk4ewt, i want to basically make a specific program open fullscreen and and be on the "bottom layer"
[00:47] <Basketball> themyth, i do
[00:47] <w9qbj> themyth: yes
[00:48] <themyth> where's a good place to get plugins and scripts for it? I want to rejoin channels whenever my connection drops
[00:48] <themyth> and it doesn't do that
[00:48] <Basketball> themyth, idk ask in #hexchat
[00:48] <w9qbj> themyth: Ask on the #hexchat channel
[00:52] <kk4ewt> themyth, in hexchat you can add your channels to favorites (so you autojoin those channels)
[00:52] <Basketball> kk4ewt, anything
[00:53] <kk4ewt> right click on the channel and click autojoin
[00:53] <themyth> yes but that only works when the program initially starts
[00:53] <themyth> it doesn't autojoin channels when your connection is dropped
[01:03] <w9qbj> themyth: take a look at: Preferences->Advanced ->'Automnatically reconnect to servers on disconnect'
[01:16] <rizonz> is apt-mirror that long busy with calculation ?
[01:31] <Pyro_Killer> Hello guys and galls, I have an unstable ethernet on a Lenovo Edge that I can't find on the internet, could someone please give me a hand?
[01:31] <Pyro_Killer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24264675/
[01:32] <Pyro_Killer> it works for about 3 seconds to 10 minutes after reboot, then it just goes disconnects fromt he network
[01:45] <zeroeax> Does anyone here use terminator as an emulator?
[01:48] <apes> Is there a way to test dhclient.conf before restarting your networking?
[01:49] <snowkrash> hi short question
[01:50] <snowkrash> whats the advantage of  ubuntu vs arch
[01:50] <bazhang> snowkrash, one is topical here
[01:50] <snowkrash> beside easier installation
[01:50] <bazhang> snowkrash, your question is a good one for that chat channel
[01:51] <snowkrash> that is?
[01:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic snowkrash
[01:51] <snowkrash> ok
[01:53] <rizonz> why are the mirrors for an ubuntu distro so much larger then centos and such ?
[01:53] <w9qbj> Pyro_Killer: the first thing I'd check is the cable - are both ends of the cat-5 seated properly/completely.
[01:56] <Aro_> Hey, anyone know if it's possible to change a device's ip while it's connected?
[01:58] <w9qbj> Aro_: yes, but if it's a remote device you will loose connectivity
[01:59] <Aro_> Ah okay. It's a local device. I'm using isc-dhcp with OMAPI on ubuntu. It's good to know it's possible, I already started working on my project so it would've been a bummer had a reconnect been required.
[02:00] <w9qbj> Aro_: anything that tries to connect will have to reconnect with the new address.
[02:02] <Pyro_Killer> w9qbj, I'mma try some different drivers, and yes the cable is intact
[02:04] <Pyro_Killer> on the one hand it's nerv wrecking to compile drivers you found online, on the other hand it's a lot of fun to mess around
[02:05] <blkadder> It's fun if you don't need it for anything important. :-)
[02:05] <Pyro_Killer> kind of important, but this seems to have done the trick, I'll wait some more before drawing a conclusion
[02:06] <Pyro_Killer> kind of odd that this wasn't the driver included with ubuntu
[02:09] <Pyro_Killer> I've become spoiled by Ubuntu
[02:10] <Aro_> w9qbj: So if the device remains connected it will maintain it's old IP?
[02:11] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hello everyone, I tried and tried again but I can't get vbox and in particulare the guest addition to work on my 16.04 desktop for some reason. it was working fine on my previous laptop with 14.04. Shared Folder is nowhere to be found on my guest machine, internet not there either, resolution at a minimum. I tried older releases too. no dice. I am now trying 5.0.32
[02:13] <ChaiTRex> smellsLikeGoatSp: Have you used the VirtualBox Devices menu to insert the guest additions image and reinstalled it?
[02:15] <elisa871> please have a look at my question regarding bash on Ubuntu on Windows 10 https://superuser.com/questions/1193000/cd-cant-cd-to-mnt-c-program
[02:18] <bazhang> !ubuwin | elisa871
[02:20] <smellsLikeGoatSp> ChaiTRex: that is probably what I was forgetting. I was sure there was a drop list somewhere, the device menu!!
[02:20] <smellsLikeGoatSp> ChaiTRex: thanks so much mate
[02:20] <ChaiTRex> smellsLikeGoatSp: You're welcome.
[02:21] <Pyro_Killer> Did they ever port ssh to windows?
[02:23] <ChaiTRex> Pyro_Killer: You can probably use it in the Ubuntu subsystem on Windows 10. Other than that, you can use PuTTY.
[02:24] <Pyro_Killer> My point was that MS never does what they say they're gonna do
[02:24] <cfhowlett> bashing MS is completely off-topic in this channel, Pyro_Killer
[02:25] <Pyro_Killer> understood
[02:26] <sam12> So
[02:26] <sam12> Since this is the Ubuntu IRC, what IRC client would u reccomend me to use on Ubuntu?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> the one you're using now
[02:26] <ChaiTRex> sam12: Xchat is nice for GUI, Irssi for terminal.
[02:26] <sam12> im using webchat
[02:26] <sam12> Hows HexChat?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> try hexchat
[02:27] <Pyro_Killer> Chatzilla ain't bad either
[02:27] <w9qbj> hexchat here on Ubuntu
[02:27] <sam12> um
[02:28] <sam12> whats the command for it like on terminal for hexchat?
[02:28] <sam12> "sudo apt-get install hexchat"?
[02:28] <cfhowlett> sam12, yes
[02:28] <w9qbj> I used Xchat on 14.04, but had some troubles getting it for 16.04, but hexchat worked right off
[02:28] <cfhowlett> w9qbj, xchat has been dead for years.  should not be in the repos at all.
[02:28] <sam12> yup, thats the command. Thought it was like Transmission where there was more to add
[02:29] <w9qbj> maybe that's why I couldn't get it.
[02:29] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[02:43] <user_> h
[02:44] <user_> does
[02:48] <intil> Hello?
[02:48] <rocker43> hello
[02:50] <smellsLikeGoatSp> ChaiTRex: all is good and mellow now :D works a mint. have a good one. smellsLikeGoatSp out
[02:50] <ChaiTRex> smellsLikeGoatSp: You too.
[03:09] <fuzzyhorns> im using redshift on ubuntu & i3 and i find brightness control doesnt work for it. it starts to work but then starts to strobe on and off like it's fighting something else
[03:09] <fuzzyhorns> i also find xbacklight doesnt work
[03:12] <fuzzyhorns> preferably id like to get xbacklight working
[03:16] <Speed_> this is a dumb question but, why is my terminal prompt all white one my one machine with ubuntu 16.04 and  mostly lime green  with a light blue '~' and a white '$' on my other machine
[03:17] <Speed_> it also had 16.04
[03:17] <Speed_> has*
[03:17] <Speed_> i like the one with collors and i dont know how to make it that way on the other machine
[03:17] <Osirus126> Speed_: it is because of either your settings of your terminal or your .bashrc file has to be modified to force color prompt
[03:18] <Osirus126> go to terminal and type
[03:18] <Osirus126> sudo nano .bashrc
[03:18] <Polarcraft> Did the nic's change from 14.04 to 16.10?
[03:20] <PfaU_> hey does anyone know how i could install a portable linux version of MAME onto ubuntu? id like to be able to install the files and required dependencies onto a USB or onto a drive on my network. In other words, I do not want MAME or any of its roms stored on the local computer, would would like to be able to run the program still on the machine. Possible?
[03:21] <obfcybs> Hi there all, does anyone know why a sd card slot is not reconised after suspend and resume. (ubuntu 16.4.1)
[03:21] <Osirus126> Speed_: go to terminal and type "sudo nano .bashrc" and scroll down in the file until you see something that says "#force_color_prompt=yes" remove the "#"  and press "ctrl+x" then "y" and hit "enter"
[03:22] <Bashing-om> !persistence | PfaU_
[03:23] <Osirus126> Speed_: did you find it??
[03:23] <Speed_> i just did
[03:24] <Osirus126> Speed_: so now open a new terminal and it should be color
[03:24] <Osirus126> Speed_: so it worked?
[03:24] <Speed_> yay
[03:24] <Speed_> it worked :D
[03:24] <Osirus126> perfect
[03:24] <Speed_> ty!
[03:24] <Osirus126> no prob
[03:26] <Osirus126> the other option would be to go into your terminal settings and set it to xterm-color or *-256color
[03:27] <Osirus126> but it doesnt hurt to force it in .bashrc..
[03:28] <alex3> is tomahawk still under active development? i dont see commits since 2015 :c
[03:33] <crl> hello I'm having an issue with compiling on elementryos (assuming you an help with it being ubuntu based
[03:35] <platz> any idea why this libreoffice snap refuses to run after install? don't understand these error msgs: https://gist.github.com/jonschoning/614fca59cd68f993948862cfaa0df7b9
[03:35] <ChaiTRex> crl: Try #elementary
[03:35] <Bashing-om> !elementry | platz
[03:36] <ChaiTRex> Needs more bot.
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !elementary | platz
[03:36] <Bashing-om> ChaiTRex: One Bashing-om needs to pay attention :)
[03:38] <Volund> HAZZAH people
[03:39] <Volund> I'm looking to listen to the audio from my Line In over my headphones. I know I can make this happen if I do 'pactl load-module module-loopback' but this also appears to turn on 'listen to my own microphone'... which is... problematic.
[03:39] <Volund> anyone got tips?
[03:43] <PipeItToDevNull> So, I am runnign a Ubuntu VPS for nextcloud. Assuming I want to hold my data in a single file that can be moved and is encrypted could I just `truncate` a 10GB file, format and LUKS it then mount it as a device?
[03:44]  * dxixweut ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ chachasmooth: IM STROKING MY BIG DICK RIGHT NOW ANY LADIES WANT TO WATCH???  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
[03:45] <PipeItToDevNull> b
[03:47]  * skqzbxk ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ vas_tappendage: IM STROKING MY BIG DICK RIGHT NOW ANY LADIES WANT TO WATCH???  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
[03:48] <platz> any idea why this libreoffice snap refuses to run after install? don't understand these error msgs: https://gist.github.com/jonschoning/614fca59cd68f993948862cfaa0df7b9
[03:49] <PipeItToDevNull> platz, Did you have it previously installed?
[03:49] <ItsMeLenny> does anybody else have a problem with really bad dc offset in both mic and line in inputs?
[03:52] <platz> PipeItToDevNull: I had it installed previously, but removed all pkg's via dpkg
[03:52] <PipeItToDevNull> platz, your dotfiles could be the issue, they were for me a couple weeks back
[03:55] <platz> hrmm, ok thanks
[03:56] <PipeItToDevNull> remove the package again, move the dotfiles and reinstall it: platz
[04:00] <lavacheq2irit> whois lavachequirit
[04:01]  * lavacheq2irit 
[04:07] <PfaU> would it be possible to create a linux live boot usb, and then add a network attached ext4 formatted hard drive to my network and install a program to that drive where the program can be launched from the local machine?
[04:08] <PipeItToDevNull> I want to say yes, but I am confused with so many words
[04:09] <PipeItToDevNull> The local machine is the live Linux from the USB?
[04:09] <PfaU> yes
[04:10] <PfaU> i do not want to set up persistance though because i do not want the program leaving any trace files or that the program even existed or was launched
[04:10] <PipeItToDevNull> PfaU, as long as the program is contained to its own directory I do not see any issues, just navigate to it and execute it
[04:13] <platz> the snap package is a lost cause... i found the libeoffice ppa and the standard package worked
[04:13] <PipeItToDevNull> Is it not in official repos?
[04:14] <platz> i'm sure it is, but i prefer ppa's when available as they're usually more up to date
[04:33] <PfaU>   would it be possible to create a non persistant linux live boot usb, and then add a network attached ext4 formatted hard drive to my network and install a program to that drive where the program can be launched from the local machine?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:49] <PipeItToDevNull> That is a cruel joke, it is 1AM
[04:50] <NegativeFlare> haha
[05:04] <PfaU> would it be possible to create a non persistant linux live boot usb, and then add a network attached ext4 formatted hard drive to my network and install a program to that drive where the program can be launched from the local machine?
[05:05] <caesar> hi
[05:05] <caesar> is there any one know that how to make ubuntu repo offline in LAN
[05:06] <PipeItToDevNull> caesar, http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-create-a-local-apt-repository
[05:08] <caesar> is there anyone know that how can I install vsphere client for ubuntu for managing the Esxi server
[05:08] <caesar> or any other GUI tool for this purpose
[05:11] <caesar> I need vsphere client for linux
[05:14] <PfaU> would it be possible to create a non persistant linux live boot usb, and then add a network attached ext4 formatted hard drive to my network and install a program to that drive where the program can be launched from the local machine?
[05:16] <hateball> caesar: there is none, use the html5 client. also see #vmware
[05:17] <hateball> PfaU: whats the use case?
[05:18] <hateball> PfaU: It's possible, just trying to understand what you're really after as it seems a cumbersome solution
[05:18] <hateball> Compared to just x-forwarding or so
[05:28] <caesar> is there anyone have vsphere client for ubunut
[05:28] <PipeItToDevNull> caesar, Did you miss what was already said, or how to use google? One does not exist
[05:30] <hateball> !pm | PfaU
[05:30] <hateball> PfaU: in response to your question, you can have a persistent USB and just store whatever data you need elsewhere, mount that with NFS as you suggested
[05:37] <PfaU> hateball , if i create a persistant usb and have a dedicated partition or whatnot on the usb for changes or file storage, that would still leave my program (mame and roms) installed on the usb drive. im trying to set up a system where mame and my rom files will not be stored on the machine it would run on
[05:39] <hateball> PfaU: You don't need to store the ROMS locally
[05:39] <hateball> PfaU: You can just mount ~/roms to an NFS export
[05:40] <user_> guys Im trying yo access my BIOS and its impossible why cant this be?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> user_: tell us the whole story?
[05:43] <user_> lotuspsuchje: well I havent installed anything unusual, it may sound stupid but there ir no really a story. I just cant access my BIOS. When I bought my pc I entered my BIOS while pressing F2 or delete and now neither works
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> user_: is your machine bios or uefi?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> user_: you want to install ubuntu singleboot or dualboot?
[05:45] <user_> lotuspsuchje: its UEFI I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS as a single BOOT
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> user_: some uefi need combo keys like alt + F8 or something, did you try F10 & F12 also?
[05:47] <ChaiTRex> There's also Esc.
[05:48] <user_> lotuspsychje: I havent tried combos but in the loading screen of the BIOS it says "to enter the BIOS press F2 or del". Even saying this I should try pressing F10 or F12?.
[05:49] <gottigo> Reality Check, Joe Rogan [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRldsLF3t9k ]
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> gottigo: not here please
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !ot | gottigo
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> user_: wich brand is your laptop?
[05:52] <user_> lotuspsychje: Asus
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> user_: ok, try all the combos
[05:54] <rojuinex> Hey duuuudes.  I've got 16.04 installed and installed some other shiz that apparently started editing iptabels; but I don't know where or what is doing it.  I created my own service to restore my rules but it's being overridden by this phantom thingy.  Had fail2bain installed then I removed it
[05:54] <rojuinex> plz help
[05:54] <user_> lotuspsychje: Ill try them but why could this had happen?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> user_: i dont know what your doing mate...if you made an ubuntu usb correctly, F12 should be able to boot your stick
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> user_: if not...your uefi settings are not setup right, for singleboot ubuntu you need to turnoff fastboot & secureboot
[06:00] <user_> lotuspsychje: how can I turnoff fastboot & secureboot? I thingk that is the problem?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> user_: you need to enter your bios first, to change settings right
[06:01] <user_> lotuspsycheje: Ok Ill tryit now. If I cant enter the BIOS what is my next option?
[06:02] <bix_> anybody online?and know Chinese
[06:03] <bix_> I got a problem,but not good at English
[06:03] <EriC^^> !cn | bix
[06:03] <hateball> user_: do you have a more exact model of your device?
[06:03] <hateball> mhm
[06:03] <bix_> a more exact?
[06:04] <bix_> I use Linuxmint
[06:04] <EriC^^> he thought he was getting karate chopped
[06:04] <EriC^^> j/k
[06:04] <hateball> !mint | bix_
[06:04] <hateball> lotuspsychje: fwiw, this was the first hit on google https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1008829/ if they return
[06:04] <hateball> lotuspsychje: also F12 is pxe boot on at least HP devices
[06:05] <bix_> I can not access in irc.spotchat.org
[06:05] <bix_> so I got here
[06:05] <EriC^^> bix_: try /server irc.spotchat.org
[06:06] <bix_> my fcitx do not show its icon next to the time
[06:06] <bix_> nobody know Chinese?
[06:07] <bix_> anybody know Chinese chatroom?
[06:30] <Haris> hello all
[06:30] <Haris> is there a way to have a watchdog on 14.04 ?
[06:31] <Haris> for a php script
[06:45] <Haris> guys, do init script on 14.04 work as in previous versions of OS ?
[06:47] <baizon> Haris: it should work
[06:47] <baizon> Haris: > 14.10 could be a problem
[06:48] <root> hello
[06:48] <root> hello am55
[06:49] <Guest82805> hello
[06:49] <Guest82805> what th fuck
[06:50] <Avatar|> alot of ppl are chatting with their root account.. why? o.O
[06:50] <Avatar|> why would anyone run an irc client with the root account, anyway?
[06:50] <Avatar|> unlogical, in any possible way, imho.'
[07:01] <sam_wongms> hi
[07:01] <sam_wongms> anybody there?
[07:02] <ducasse> there's always people here
[07:03] <sam_wongms> thanks, as I see no messages up
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> !ask | sam_wongms
[07:07] <sam_wongms> no questions. simply want to practice IRC
[07:08] <ducasse> please do that in #ubuntu-offtopic or #chat, this channel is for support only
[07:08] <sam_wongms> OK
[07:09] <sam_wongms> sorry about that
[07:09] <ducasse> if you want to talk about something specific, alis can help you find a channel
[07:10] <ducasse> !alis
[07:12] <cihhan> hello all! im looking for a software that will help me to monitor the remote systems and take action when needed (such as reboot at the end of the day) -- i believe that nagios can be useful for this purpose through its plugins. but do you have any other suggestions?
[07:16] <oskie> i'm running Xenial and I'm having some issues that I think are systemd related...
[07:16] <ducasse> cihhan: monit, maybe
[07:16] <akik> cihhan: not really about ubuntu but try https://github.com/firehol/netdata
[07:17] <oskie> some commands just get stuck, consuming no cpu. For example, removing a package, and it is stuck in systemd-tty-ask
[07:17] <cihhan> thanks all, i will be checking them. i would prefer them to work on ubuntu, of course :)
[07:19] <ducasse> cihhan: moit is packaged for ubuntu, it's in the repos
[07:19] <ducasse> *monit
[07:23] <cihhan> ducasse: thank you, im checking it now. i knew that nagios is able to do most of the things but i generally prefer checking the alternatives while starting a new project ;)
[07:24] <ducasse> nagios is quite heavy, a good fit for enterprises or if you're monitoring a *lot* of stuff. monit is for smaller installations.
[07:26] <Hounddog> Good Morning, i have a question regarding dnsmasq and a vpn, i have dnsmasq configured "address=/.internal/127.0.0.1"  now when i just connected to the vpn i was not able to resolve any dns and had to deactivate dnsmasq. Do i need to add anything more for this to work?
[07:35] <intelRSTnewb> I have a raid 5 setup with an intel RST hardware raid. I launch into a a live CD and everything was going ok until I reset and now I have a "verify" status on my raid. Does a live CD effect the hard drives at all in such a way that it could mess with a hardware raid 5?
[07:50] <dnsproblems> Hi All, is anyone still experiencing DNS issues after installing the patches?
[07:51] <dnsproblems> as per the glibc bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1674532
[08:05] <OlofL> hello my laptop suddenly wont recognise external display on display port. ubuntu 16.10. xrandr shows disconnected
[08:05] <OlofL> doesnt matter if its through docking or directly into laptop
[08:44] <Xorg> whats boot manager (systemd for ex) in ubuntu <'
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !details | Xorg
[08:45] <Xorg> lotuspsychje: systemd in ubuntu ?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Xorg: what about it?
[08:47] <Xorg> what is equvialent of systemd redhat in ubuntu
[08:47] <Xorg> whats the boot manager
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | Xorg
[08:47] <Freman> hi, I'm having some troubles getting vlan working in 16.04.2 - I can tcp dump on the underlying interface and see tagged traffic coming in..
[08:47] <Xorg> below 15
[08:47] <Xorg> ?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !init | Xorg below 15.04
[08:49] <ducasse> Xorg: systemd is not a boot manager, it's an init system
[08:51] <gajasurve> hi!
[08:51] <gajasurve> need help using curl
[08:52] <gajasurve> anybody there
[08:52] <gajasurve> ?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> gajasurve: the #curl guys might answer a specific curl question
[08:53] <gajasurve> Thnaks Mate
[08:53] <gajasurve> !
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Freman: have you tried a network-manager restart?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Freman: system up to date to latest?
[08:54] <Freman> I've tried rebooting the whole machine
[08:54] <Freman> yep
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Freman: anything freaky in syslog/dmesg?
[08:55] <PCatinean> Hello everyon, can anyone give me a hand with my wireless card that's interrupting every 5-6 minutes or so? running ubuntu 16.04 on my notebook
[08:55] <Freman> nope :(
[08:55] <Freman> beginning to wonder if the nic is crippled
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> Freman: sudo service network-manager restart perhaps?
[08:56] <Freman> lotuspsychje how is that any better than "sudo reboot"?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: system up to date to 16.04.2? network card chipset?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> Freman: just trying to widen your options mate
[08:56] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje, fresh format 2-3 days ago and installed 16.04.02, output of lspci: https://hastebin.com/mihequdayi.go
[08:56] <Freman> yeh, I'm probably too tired to be debugging this
[08:56] <Freman> I might go in on saturday and try
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> !ralink | PCatinean
[08:57] <PCatinean> thanks man!
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> Freman: if something is bad with your nic, logs should at least show something usefull right
[08:58] <Freman> lol, not doing any more of this tonight anyway, I've firewalled myself out lol
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> Freman: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with vlan a bit?
[08:59] <Freman> lotuspsychje I'd hope so, but maybe not, if the nic isn't sending those 4 bytes then it's not going to work. but then tcpdump -e -i eth0 shouldn't show the vlan tags so I dunno
[08:59] <Freman> I'm not doing any more tonight now :D
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[08:59] <cfhowlett> yowza ^3, lotuspsychje
[09:03] <ducasse> morning :)
[09:04] <Shaddy> Hi guys, does someone knows, what application in ubuntu hooks alt+q shortcut?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:17] <supriyob> When will Xubuntu 17.04 be out ?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !isitout | supriyob
[10:17] <ducasse> it's expected apr. 13th afaik
[10:17] <bazhang> cfhowlett, not really the right pointer
[10:17] <cfhowlett> supriyob, oops, nope.  see #ubuntu+1
[10:17] <cfhowlett> bazhang, so I noticed.  sorry all
[10:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 17.04 discussion please
[10:19] <dnsproblems> Hi All, is anyone still experiencing DNS issues after installing the patches?
[10:19] <ducasse> supriyob: #ubuntu+1 has a link to the schedule in the topic
[10:19] <dnsproblems> as per the glibc bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1674532
[10:32] <DullTube> whats the recommended way to install ubuntu with a custom desktop i.e. an OS that uses ubuntu repositories and also does distro upgrades, but with a custom DE?
[10:33] <bazhang> DullTube, what distro
[10:33] <selckin> DullTube: intall ubuntu-server and your DE of choice
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !flavors | DullTube        these are supported ubuntu OS's.  Not on this list, not supported
[10:34] <DullTube> what extra stuff do I have to do, if choosing ubuntu-server + custom desktop?
[10:35] <bazhang> DullTube, are you currrently not on ubuntu
[10:35] <DullTube> mint
[10:36] <bazhang> what DE did you want DullTube
[10:36] <DullTube> lxqt
[10:36] <bazhang> !info lxqt
[10:37] <bazhang> DullTube, then apt install it, further MINT help in their channel
[10:37] <bazhang> !mintsupport | DullTube
[10:37] <DullTube> bazhang: sorry, I was talking about a fresh install
[10:38] <bazhang> DullTube, get the mini or such and add lxqt
[10:38] <bazhang> !mini | DullTube
[10:39] <DullTube> my knowledge is a bit lacking here, but I take it existing distributions have very polished desktop environments so I take it installing one on a server image sounds like a lot of work and configuration
[10:39] <\9> not really, i think you can do it with one apt call
[10:39] <cfhowlett> DullTube, install any desktop ubuntu.  adding an alternate DE to an installed system is a trivial matter
[10:39] <k1l> DullTube: ubuntu ships metapackages which will pull all the needed depencies. they all share the same kernel and base system anywa
[10:39] <k1l> y
[10:40] <\9> DullTube: except i don't know how that works with lxqt
[10:40] <DullTube> I'll try it out
[10:40] <\9> though i think that if you install lxqt and perhaps lightdm it should give at least some kind of a desktop
[10:40] <\9> and you can build up from there
[10:40] <DullTube> p.s. what's the difference between the mini and the server image?
[10:41] <k1l> you can ask the #lubuntu guys how far they are with the lxqt setup. but last time i looked it was still lxde the main target
[10:41] <DullTube> yeah 17.04 is lxde still
[10:41] <k1l> !info lubuntu-qt-desktop
[10:53] <Druid05> Hello
[10:53] <Druid05> If i add something in "/etc/cron.daily/" this will be active autimatically, or is needed to activate/restart cron?
[10:54] <Druid05> automatically*
[10:54] <mcphail> Druid05: you don't need to restart cron
[11:00] <Liza> Hello how are you?)
[11:03] <Liza> how are you?
[11:03] <BluesKaj> hi Liza
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Liza, this is ubuntu support.  ask your support  questions.  jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <niggard> hi pals, xorg<>nvidia driver troubles are back again.
[11:09] <luke_66> Hi Everyone
[11:09] <efg> afg
[11:09] <luke_66> a question about LibreOffice used in headless mode
[11:09] <niggard> How to figure out what driver is used? 'inxi -Gxx' says: 'Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)'
[11:10] <efg> yjvhhkk
[11:10] <niggard> yet /etc/X11/xorg.conf has 'Driver "vesa"' line
[11:10] <efg> hi
[11:11] <hateball> niggard: unless you are doing manual tweaks, you dont need to have a xorg.conf at all
[11:11] <luke_66> I'm trying to convert a docx file to pdf using LibreOffice headless. I started the server in listening mode, cause it seems the way to go to use it concurrently and for performance benefits (I'm planning to use it in a web application) as:
[11:11] <luke_66> libreoffice --headless --accept="socket,host=localhost,port=9997,tcpNoDelay=1;urp" --nodefault --nofirststartwizard --nolockcheck --nologo --norestore --invisible
[11:11] <luke_66> however, as normal user, the following command does not work, without any output (errors or messages):
[11:11] <luke_66> libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf --infilter="Microsoft Word 2007/2010/2013 XML" LaP1.docx
[11:11] <luke_66> running it as root, instead, it works.
[11:11] <luke_66> Anybody experienced that and can provide any help?
[11:11] <luke_66> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.
[11:11] <efg> hkhsfghjklñ
[11:11] <BluesKaj> niggard, you're using nouveau. the default open source driver
[11:11] <niggard> BluesKaj: but inxi -Gxx lists it as unloaded
[11:12] <Dan9550> Hey. Is there a reason why a kernel i compiled on one Ubuntu box may not boot on another?
[11:12] <niggard> hateball: I have 2 GPUs and 2 monitors and they didn't play nice until I've created xorg.conf
[11:12] <mcphail> efg: play somewhere else please
[11:12] <efg> ooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:13] <hateball> niggard: I see
[11:13] <efg> hi
[11:13] <efg> hi?
[11:13] <efg> hi?
[11:13] <efg> hi?
[11:13] <efg> hi?
[11:14] <niggard> +q that guy
[11:15] <birne> Hi people. Is there an application for ubuntu which could remind me in this way: I have something to do on a certain day, but it's nevermind when exactly. When I start ubuntu on this day for the first time, it reminds me like a alarm clock. Do you know something in this way?
[11:16] <niggard> birne: apt-cache search google calendar
[11:17] <birne> okay, thanks
[11:20] <niggard> BluesKaj: hey, so how did you figure out I'm using nouveau?
[11:21] <neredsenvy> I started a process with nohup ./update.sh & this calls multiple other commands is there a way I can kill all the processes by nohup ?
[11:21] <neredsenvy> With one command
[11:23] <kbob> pgrep nohup | xargs kill -9
[11:26] <neredsenvy> kbob: problem is child processes are still running I would also need to kill all which have artisan and update.sh in their name
[11:26] <BluesKaj> niggard, well, perhaps not since it shows unloaded, therefor you must be using the nvidia proprietary which doesn't show up ..I have almost the out put from inxi Gxx , my nvidia-340 driver isn't listed altho it shows with,  glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[11:26] <neredsenvy> pgrep 'artisan' | kill -9 should also work right ?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> niggard, almost the same
[11:27] <Ben64> neredsenvy: you can't use kill like that
[11:28] <niggard> BluesKaj: how it doesn't show up if it says 'drivers: nvidia' ?
[11:28] <kbob> neredsenvy: now I will not read the man for you but I think something like "nohup | artisan | update"
[11:28] <neredsenvy> Ben64: How can I kill all processes under ps -ef which contain either of those two words in their name
[11:29] <neredsenvy> hm
[11:29] <niggard> oh, you mean the version doesn't show up
[11:29] <niggard> BluesKaj: well, I have nvidia driver version 340.102, I guess it is used then
[11:30] <BluesKaj> niggard, that's from your xorg file, not from,  glxinfo | grep OpenGL, which command will show the loaded driver
[11:30] <niggard> does xorg have its own driver?
[11:30] <akik> neredsenvy: pkill accepts a process name pattern such as 'artisan|update.sh'
[11:30] <neredsenvy> I was missing -f works now
[11:30] <neredsenvy> pgrep -f update.sh | xargs kill -9
[11:30] <BluesKaj> niggard, yes
[11:31] <niggard> BluesKaj: do you have tearing?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> niggard, no tearing
[11:31] <niggard> BluesKaj: do you have 2 gpus as well?
[11:32] <BluesKaj> yes, but i have the bios seup to use just one, niggard
[11:32] <niggard> didn't know that can be done from bios
[11:32] <niggard> BluesKaj: what driver does your xorg use?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> niggard, with nvidia you use nvidia-xconfig not xorg
[11:35] <niggard> it creates config file for xorg and last time I used it - I had troubles with monitors not showing image
[11:37] <BluesKaj> niggard, I'm not familiar with multiple monitor setups
[11:37] <niggard> oh
[11:38] <niggard> well, I guess I'll have to re-try nvidia-xconfig
[11:38] <BluesKaj> and I don't use xorg.conf
[11:38] <ducasse> niggard: do you have one monitor on each gpu?
[11:38] <niggard> you have .conf for xorg anyways
[11:38] <niggard> ducasse: no
[11:38] <niggard> both attached to nvidia
[11:42] <wildpenguin> hello.. I installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04.2 on my laptop.
[11:44] <wildpenguin> is Gnome 3 well integrated with Ubuntu?
[11:44] <wildpenguin> does anyone here use Gnome 3 DE?
[11:44] <k1l> there is the #ubuntu-gnome team that cares about the gnome-shell integration
[11:46] <ubuntu__> hello ?
[11:46] <wildpenguin> which is the most intuitive DE available?
[11:47] <ubuntu__> ehh ... how to set nick name
[11:47] <k1l> wildpenguin: that is very subjective
[11:47] <k1l> ubuntu__: "/nick newnickname"
[11:47] <ubuntu__> I type "/set nick hzhang" ...but it doesn't work
[11:47] <wildpenguin> k1l, still you can have an opinion.
[11:48] <k1l> wildpenguin: personally i think its unity. but i guess you dont want to hear that since you ask for gnome all the time. so i dont know how polling in here will help you :)
[11:49] <wildpenguin> ok.
[11:50] <Stinky-Feet> wildpenguin: I use Gnome because I prefer it, but I would not call it intuitive. As K11 said, it is subjective. Try it?
[11:51] <wildpenguin> ok
[12:02] <Dan9550> If i'm at an initramfs prompt and i "ls /dev" i should see my hard disks correct?
[12:03] <ikevin> yes
[12:04] <Dan9550> hmm... if i dont. What could be the cause? (System works fine with a different kernel version)
[12:04] <ikevin> try a dmesg to see if you have error with your hd
[12:08] <Dan9550> I couldn;t see any errors
[12:09] <rizonz> is there a way to see what packages are in uiniverse and multiverse ?
[12:12] <TomyWork> rizonz try "apt-cache policy yourpackage"
[12:13] <ikevin> Dan9550, do you use your own compiled kernel or packaged kernel?
[12:14] <blackflow> rizonz: not directly. there's a solution somewhere on askubuntu or stackoverflow, with a relatively complex command line that parses and extracts from dpkg and policy.
[12:15] <rizonz> blackflow: mhh
[12:16] <TomyWork> blackflow rizonz apt-cache policy nvidia-common shows me it's from universe
[12:16] <generic> I have problems running X on firepro v4800
[12:16] <TomyWork> works perfectly fine for me
[12:16] <TomyWork> if you dont need handholding, that is
[12:16] <blackflow> I understood the question was to list packages per repository
[12:16] <generic> what can I do to prevent VESA from installing ?
[12:17] <ikevin> TomyWork, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/yakkety/allpackages
[12:17] <blackflow> ie. list all packages from universe or multiverse
[12:17] <TomyWork> blackflow that's a ton :)
[12:18] <TomyWork> what ikevin said should work for you
[12:18] <blackflow> ... installed ... :)
[12:18] <TomyWork> blackflow meh, can you ask complete unambiguous questions next time?
[12:18] <ikevin> a txt version is availlable at http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/yakkety/allpackages?format=txt.gz , it maybe more easy to grep on it
[12:20] <Dan9550> ikevin, in this case its the ubuntu 4.8 kernel with this patch https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172421 I'm nailing the problem down to missing modules i think. Not sure how to go about fixing it yet
[12:21] <ikevin> Dan9550, have you tryed to rebuild initrd?
[12:21] <generic> how do I restart the x server with systemd ?
[12:22] <Dan9550> ikevin, i have not. How would i do that?
[12:22] <ikevin> generic, restart lightdm
[12:22] <hateball> generic: sudo service lightdm restart
[12:22] <generic> hateball: maybe install it first :)
[12:23] <blackflow> TomyWork: you must've confused me with someone, I never asked a question, I was answering it :)
[12:23] <ikevin> Dan9550, boot on a working kernel, and do update-initramfs -k <kernel version that not work>
[12:23] <TomyWork> rizonz then
[12:24] <TomyWork> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | awk '{ print $1 }' | head | while read x; do apt-cache policy "$x" | grep -qF 'verse' && echo "$x is from *verse"; done
[12:24] <TomyWork> should work :)
[12:25] <TomyWork> except if there's another "verse" in the package url or something
[12:25] <generic> hateball: what if I don't wanna use gnome ?
[12:26] <ikevin> generic, restart the session manager you use
[12:27] <rizonz> TomyWork: ok thanks also
[12:28] <generic> ikevin: i somehow deleted stuff using aptitude :( tried to run xinit but no permissions for /dev/tty ..
[12:29] <Dan9550> ikevin, i gave that a shot. Didn't help, does it matter that i've built the kernel on another computer?
[12:30] <generic> ikevin: systemctl doesnt show anything running that looks like a session-manager though
[12:30] <ikevin> Dan9550, nop, so, if your kernel config is wrong that can make a problem
[12:30] <ikevin> generic, ps aux | grep dm
[12:31] <Dan9550> ikevin, kernel config on the machine in question right?
[12:31] <generic> ikevin: apt-get install lightdm :(
[12:32] <ikevin> Dan9550, if you have used the config from the other machin yes
[12:33] <ikevin> Dan9550, use a config from the machin you wan't to have the kernel working
[12:33] <Dan9550> ikevin, Well i built in a VM and im 98% sure i ended up using the config from it. Can i change it now or do i have to recompile with the config from the machine im trying to use the kernel on?
[12:34] <ikevin> Dan9550, you have to recompile
[12:34] <Dan9550> ikevin, Thanks i wasn't sure if there was anything specific like that when i compiled. My first attempt on the hardware ran out of memory lol. I'll recompile and see how i go!
[12:35] <generic> Dan9550: make -jX where X is cpucores+1
[12:35] <ikevin> Dan9550, you can source the kernel from ubuntu repo, patch it, and use your old kernel config to recompile
[12:38] <generic> lol steam does not depend on x-server ?
[12:38] <TomyWork> generic i'd advise against that. instead, use the standard package building mechanism
[12:38] <TomyWork> debuild or something
[12:38] <TomyWork> and then install the .deb
[12:39] <TomyWork> generic why would it? it's an x client, not an x server
[12:39] <generic> TomyWork: but it needs at least opengl to run
[12:39] <TomyWork> the gui?
[12:40] <generic> TomyWork: is there a commandline client ?
[12:40] <TomyWork> i thought it was just some webkit-based thing with a bunch of widgets
[12:40] <generic> TomyWork: maybe webkit needs opengl ..
[12:40] <TomyWork> probably not
[12:40] <TomyWork> and yes there is a command line client
[12:40] <TomyWork> you use it if you want to set up a dedicated server
[12:41] <TomyWork> generic why do you think it needs opengl?
[12:41] <generic> TomyWork: tried running it on gentoo and without opengl it didn't start ..
[12:42] <TomyWork> was it in big picture mode maybe?
[12:42] <TomyWork> i suppose that would require opengl
[12:43] <generic> TomyWork: no
[12:43] <TomyWork> anyway, it's getting off-topic
[12:50] <generic> TomyWork: ok X running now but can't login .. failed to start session
[12:50] <tural> Merhaba
[12:50] <tural> Turk varmi ?
[12:50] <tural> turk
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !tr | tural
[12:50] <tural> Turkiyeden kimse varmi ?
[12:51] <tural> Merhaba
[12:52] <tural> Linux uzerinden usb boot nasil yaparim ?
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> tural: english here please
[12:54] <tural> How I do usb boot from linux
[12:54] <generic> tural: rufus
[12:54] <ducasse> !usb | tural
[12:55] <tural> i used elementry OS and now change
[12:56] <generic> can I use lightdm to run twm ?
[12:57] <ducasse> generic: it shouldn't matter which wm you choose
[12:58] <generic> ducasse: says failed to start session
[12:58] <generic> ducasse: where is the log ?
[12:58] <ducasse> generic: ~/.xsession-errors
[13:00] <generic> ducasse: thanks
[13:00] <tural> how install rufus
[13:01] <OerHeks> rufus is for windows, you can easily make an ubuntu-usb on elementary
[13:03] <idont> hi
[13:05] <generic> i'm running wpa_supplicant now as I can't access X it connects but then systemctl start dhcpcd doesn't fetch an ip
[13:06] <Southern_Gentlem> generic how about nmcli
[13:06] <generic> notinstalled
[13:06] <generic> not installed :(
[13:08] <generic> but what's wrong ran perfectly before :(
[13:12] <Dan9550> ikevin, where do i put my old kernel config file before i compile the kernel
[13:13] <ikevin> Dan9550, cp /boot/config-<version you want> /path/to/kernel/source/.config
[13:16] <sirv> all irc moderators are faggots
[13:24] <wildpenguin> hello, I have Ubuntu Mate 16.04.2 installed on my laptop. I want the performance to be faster and want to install Lubuntu desktop. How can I install the complete Lubuntu DE in a way that when I log into it I get Lubuntu and the associated packages only and it doesn't conflict with the existing Mate.
[13:24] <wildpenguin> ?
[13:26] <ikevin> wildpenguin, apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[13:27] <pauljw> wildpenguin, i think lxle is the DE for the lubuntu distro
[13:27] <Pici> *lxde
[13:28] <wildpenguin> no. LXLE is a respin of Lubuntu..
[13:28] <pauljw> thx Pici
[13:30] <wildpenguin> ikevin, thanks a lot.
[13:30] <ikevin> you welcome
[13:31] <wildpenguin> are the software packages in Mate Software Boutique, Ubuntu Software Centre and App grid different?
[13:32] <wildpenguin> I mean are they of different versions? or from different sources?
[13:32] <ducasse> same packages.
[13:32] <ikevin> wildpenguin, nop
[13:33] <wildpenguin> ok
[13:41] <wildpenguin> guys, is there any tool available in Ubuntu software repositories for merging several pdf files into a single file?
[13:42] <vlt> wildpenguin: pdftk
[13:42] <blackflow> wildpenguin: iirc, ghostcript had such capabilities
[13:43] <wildpenguin> I need something that is entirely GUI based. I am a newbie to Linux.
[13:43] <ikevin> pdftk :)
[13:43] <vlt> wildpenguin: Google for pdftk gui.
[13:44] <wildpenguin> ok. thanks a lot guys.
[13:44] <wildpenguin> I badly needed such a tool.
[13:44] <wastrel> imo it's easier to use command line if you just want to join files
[13:44] <ikevin> wildpenguin, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/pdfchain/
[13:44] <wastrel> pdfjoin file1.pdf file2.pdf file3.pdf
[13:44] <wastrel> boom done
[13:45] <wildpenguin> I have hundreds of pdf files that I need to join and turn into a few files.
[13:45] <wastrel> but i guess that presupposes that you're comfortable operating on the command line :)
[13:45] <wildpenguin> If that tool has drag and drop facility that would be great.
[13:46] <wildpenguin> I don't use CLI often.
[13:46] <wastrel> actually i think if you drag and drop a file onto the command line from nautilus it puts the filename in there
[13:46] <ikevin> wildpenguin, see for pdfchain (take a look at the link i've give you)
[13:46] <wildpenguin> ok
[13:47] <sam_wongms25> hi
[13:47] <ducasse> wildpenguin: if you're operating on hundreds of files the cli is many times faster than gui
[13:48] <wildpenguin> ok. I will try CLI also.
[13:48] <sam_wongms25> can anyone tell me how to change the audio output from the back (motherboard) to the front panel cause my audio cable is not long enough. I am running ubuntu 16.10.
[13:48] <wildpenguin> I want to know how many pages are there in those pdf files.
[13:49] <wildpenguin> In windows there was a software available for it. But, not using Windows now.
[13:49] <wildpenguin> I could just add the files in that tool and know how many pages are there in those files.
[13:50] <OerHeks> a pdf without pagenumbers, really? lolz ..
[13:50] <wildpenguin> No. The files have page numbers. I just don't want to count each one of those files.
[13:51] <wildpenguin> there are at about hundred pdf files now with me that I want to join.
[13:51] <wildpenguin> and know how many pages are there in total.
[13:51] <blackflow> wildpenguin: ghostscript can join and query pdf info, thus count your pages
[13:51] <wildpenguin> blackflow, I'll try that then.
[13:52] <blackflow> wildpenguin: should be already installed, try `man gs`
[13:53] <wildpenguin> blackflow, how to run ghostscript?
[13:53] <wildpenguin> yes. It is already installed.
[13:56] <newcoder> How can I remove files with rc? rc  texlive-lang-korean
[13:56] <wildpenguin> OK. pdfchain also does that.
[13:57] <wildpenguin> I can see the number of pages in each file.
[13:57] <ducasse> newcoder: you mean packages? 'apt purge ...'
[13:58] <newcoder> I don't want to remove individually. How can I remove all files with rc?
[14:00] <PipeItToDevNull> newcoder, Are you trying to use regex to remove packages or a meta-package?
[14:00] <newcoder> Remove packages
[14:01] <PipeItToDevNull> Yes, I know that. you use apt-get purge or apt-get remove
[14:01] <ikevin> apt-get autoremove don't remove "rc" package?
[14:01] <wastrel> sudo apt remove
[14:02] <ducasse> you need purge to get rid of the residuals
[14:02] <wastrel> ok then,  sudo apt purge texlive-lang-korean
[14:05] <RobGoss> Testing
[14:06] <RobGoss> Hello everyone
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> RobGoss: welcome, how can we help you?
[14:06] <RobGoss> I was just testing this chat app
[14:07] <ducasse> !chat | RobGoss
[14:07] <generic> can I use an ip-range in iptables ?
[14:08] <ikevin> generic, yes
[14:08] <wastrel> you can use cidr
[14:08] <RobGoss> OK I don't use it much I spend most of my time at the forums
[14:09] <RobGoss> Have a great everyone
[14:09] <yourwhat> Hi. Quick question: how do I register on IRC channel?
[14:10] <yourwhat> and why do I have to do that on some channels?
[14:10] <generic> ikevin: like -s 149.56.134.225-149.56.134.0 ?
[14:10] <tangarora> what log facility does ubuntu 16* use by default? rsyslog or syslog-ng
[14:10] <ducasse> !register | yourwhat
[14:10] <generic> ikevin: or would i use 149.56.134.0/24 ?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yourwhat, join freenode to get answers for that
[14:10] <ducasse> generic: that is cidr
[14:11] <generic> ducasse: cidr ?
[14:11] <ikevin> generic, nop, 149.56.134.0/24
[14:11] <ducasse> generic: cidr notation, your latter example.
[14:11] <yourwhat> thanks!
[14:12] <RobGoss> Testing
[14:12] <ikevin> generic, you can use <ip>/<netmask> to
[14:12] <ducasse> RobGoss: please stop that testing here
[14:15] <pavelz> hi, i am trying to upgrade 15.10 to 16.04 but it tells me that 15.10 is too old, this is on the server, is there a way out of this? do-relase-upgrade ...
[14:16] <ducasse> !eolupgrade
[14:16] <OerHeks> pavelz, see the part old-releases in the url from ubottu
[14:17] <OerHeks> i hope that server is not compromised by now
[14:17] <generic> webkit_ubuntu12.zip.vz.21f7fdb79ffcdcd93794340a220234f7aa45a4ff_43196149 missing or incorrect size
[14:17] <generic> on running steam :(
[14:17] <pavelz> how can it be, theres only ssh and bunch of custom software
[14:18] <ducasse> pavelz: it's eol
[14:18] <ducasse> pavelz: read the link
[14:18] <OerHeks> your assumption is dangerous :-D
[14:20] <OerHeks> generic, there is #ubuntu-steam and #steamlug for support
[14:20] <generic> 0erHeks: thx
[14:20] <generic> wireshark doesn't seem to start .. takes forever and nothing happens
[14:21] <ducasse> generic: try from a terminal
[14:21] <OerHeks> somany questions at once, generic, i hardly believe you have these issues at all
[14:21] <generic> ducasse: that's what i did ..
[14:21] <generic> ducasse: or is there a console interface ?
[14:22] <ducasse> generic: and it said nothing?
[14:22] <generic> ducasse: no
[14:22] <ducasse> generic: then we can't really help.
[14:22] <PipeItToDevNull> generic, run it then post the entire contents of the term to pastebin
[14:23] <frib> does anyone know how I can boot a windows 7 iso from grub which doesn't have ntldr?
[14:24] <generic> if I run it as root it says coudn't connect to display :0.0
[14:24] <generic> says nothing at all if i run it as non-root
[14:24] <OerHeks> frib, no, all i know isobot works for linux iso's only
[14:24] <OerHeks> c/isoboot
[14:25] <ikevin> generic, to correct "couldn't connect to display :0.0" do an export DISPLAY=:0
[14:25] <nathdwek> Hey I have a super dumb question
[14:26] <nathdwek> I have a binary which does not return but prints stuff
[14:26] <nathdwek> on a remote machine
[14:26] <poizeed> hi
[14:26] <poizeed> how do I default to the don't remember password in the gnome winodw manager which uses the cryptsetup?
[14:26] <poizeed> I need to click on that don't remember password every time, and even if it remembers the password, is the hash stored or the naked password?
[14:26] <nathdwek> but if I do ssh remote './binary', I don't see the outputs
[14:26] <generic> ikevin: couldn't connect to :0 now :(
[14:26] <poizeed> I use unity obviously
[14:26] <nathdwek> How come?
[14:27] <ikevin> generic, you X server use :0 ?
[14:27] <generic> ikevin: how would I find out ?
[14:28] <ikevin> generic, open a new terminal (under X) and type: echo $DISPLAY
[14:29] <generic> says :0.0
[14:29] <pavelz> ducasse: nope, seems to run ok under sudo su - but not so when sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:29] <frib> OerHeks, do you know how I can get the ntldr module in grub?
[14:29] <frib> apparently my version of grub is the EFI version and doesn't have it?
[14:33] <poizeed> how do I default to the don't remember password in the gnome winodw manager which uses the cryptsetup?
[14:35] <ikevin> poizeed, check on gnome-keyring settings
[14:37] <poizeed> Where exactly in the keyring?
[14:37] <poizeed> ikevin: It's not all that obvious
[14:39] <tharvey__> can't get ath9k radio on xenial to connect, think its a regdomain issue. seeing wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:30:1a:4e:03:f6 reason=4 locally_generated=1' same AP ssid/pass as trusty that worked fine
[14:39] <genericum> ls
[14:40] <genericum> lol
[14:40] <Ntemis> hi
[14:40] <genericum> ok i have an error message with wireshark now
[14:40] <genericum> says /usr/bin/dumpcap in child process : permission denied
[14:40] <Ntemis> is there anything to be done about this? Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x06fd1a6f = 117250671
[14:41] <genericum> Ntemis: maybe try smartmontools ?
[14:41] <Ntemis> for what? that was the tool that gave me that error
[14:42] <genericum> Ntemis: lol
[14:42] <skinux> Where is jetty web root by default installation?
[14:42] <genericum> Ntemis: try finding the error log
[14:42] <ikevin> poizeed, no idea, so i think it's on gnome keyring you will find a way to disable password storage
[14:43] <Ntemis> genericum: http://dpaste.com/29JR8VE
[14:43] <akik> genericum: wireshark says that you should not run it as root
[14:43] <genericum> akik: wasn't running it as root
[14:43] <akik> genericum: more info in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[14:45] <akik> genericum: well you tried
[14:45] <genericum> akik: by accident :(
[14:46] <RobG> I was wondering to a lot of users use this irc
[14:46] <akik> genericum: there's info about dumpcap in that README.Debian file
[14:46] <akik> RobG: 1823 currently
[14:46] <genericum> akik: about the wireshark group ?
[14:46] <akik> genericum: yes
[14:46] <RobG> Not bad
[14:47] <genericum> akik: says i am in that group by default how can I find out ?
[14:47] <RobG> Seems kind hard to keep up answering questions
[14:48] <Southern_Gentlem> genericum,  groups
[14:48] <poizeed> ikevin: no It's the cryptsetup password, not the keyring password, the one tot lock the encrypted volume?
[14:48] <poizeed> Not the gnome keyring
[14:49] <PipeItToDevNull> poizeed, I think it is stored in the keyring, which is ncrypted
[14:49] <genericum> Southern_Gentlem: thx
[14:49] <poizeed> PipeItToDevNull: ok where?
[14:50] <PipeItToDevNull> poizeed, http://askubuntu.com/questions/96798/where-does-seahorse-gnome-keyring-store-its-keyrings
[14:50] <ikevin> poizeed, oh sorry, i've not understand correctly :x
[14:51] <genericum> can I use a gamepad as pointing device somehow ?
[14:52] <Sir_Andrei> Hi
[14:52] <Sir_Andrei> Ppl
[14:52] <Sir_Andrei> I'm in Lubuntu, and I'm trying to create a wifi network
[14:52] <PipeItToDevNull> genericum, The steam controller supports being a touchpad =/
[14:53] <Sir_Andrei> But WPA2 isnt as an option in the Network Manager
[14:53] <genericum> PipeItToDevNull: i dont have a steam controller ..
[14:53] <PipeItToDevNull> Sir_Andrei, the stock NetworkManager can handle that
[14:53] <OerHeks> gamepad as pointingdevice in wireshark ?
[14:53] <Sir_Andrei> Well, NetworkManager in Lubuntu doesn't have it
[14:53] <PipeItToDevNull> Sir_Andrei, no, you are right, it does not. Sec
[14:54] <genericum> 0erHeks: if it works on X it will work on wireshark too
[14:55] <PipeItToDevNull> Sir_Andrei, Hostpad may support it http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd/#IEEE_802.11i.2FRSN.2FWPA2_pre-authentication
[14:56] <Sir_Andrei> Hmm, let's see, thx C:
[15:01] <yonatan> I'm running xubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. When suspending, it just goes into a black screen and doesn't shut off. Nothing short of a shut-down I found works to get it out of the black screen (including the ctrl alt f1 thing). Any ideas?
[15:02] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: And  you laptop is a...?
[15:02] <TheOneMenzie> *your
[15:02] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, Dell inspiron i7559
[15:03] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, i'm only using the intel gpu; i'm not using the nvidia prime thing
[15:05] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: What's the output of [ sudo lshw -C video ]?
[15:05] <TheOneMenzie> !patesbin
[15:05] <TheOneMenzie> !pastebin
[15:14] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, i was speaking to you, right?
[15:15] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, basically, i got no output for the longest time, and then my computer seemingly crashed
[15:15] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: Hm.
[15:16] <TheOneMenzie> Try it again: [ sudo lshw -C video ] and pastebin the result
[15:16] <TheOneMenzie> ((SERGIO!))
[15:17] <sergiomeneses> TheOneMenzie: \o
[15:17] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, roughly how long should i expect to wait for output?
[15:18] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: You shouldn't have to wait for terribly long.
[15:18] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, no output yet besides PCI (sysfs).
[15:21] <nemesys> check this
[15:22] <generic> how can I change grub2 settings ? currently everything is so fast i can't see anything
[15:24] <PipeItToDevNull> generic, edit /etc/default/geub
[15:24] <TheOneMenzie> yonaThat's odd.
[15:24] <k1l> generic: what do you mean with "everything is so fast"?
[15:24] <generic> maybe quiet option =
[15:24] <generic> ?
[15:25] <k1l> generic: what is the problem at all?
[15:26] <generic> k1l: my box seems to randomly load kernels one time my net-devs are wlan the other time wlp
[15:27] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, so again it had no output, networking crashed, and then when i tried turning off networking (so i can turn it back on) my computer locked up
[15:28] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: It seems your computer might just be pretty old then.
[15:28] <TheOneMenzie> Can you pastebin [ inxi -F ]?
[15:28] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, my computer is from 2016, the model itself is from either 2016 or late 2015
[15:29] <brunch875> what does it mean when a package version on apt-get is 1:1.10?
[15:29] <brunch875> is it version 1.10? What does the 1: mean?
[15:29] <nacc> brunch875: epoch 1
[15:29] <nacc> brunch875: they had to reset the version numbers for whatever reason
[15:29] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, it's not outputting anything, either
[15:30] <brunch875> Oh I see, thanks nacc :)
[15:30] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: Something must terribly be wrong...
[15:31] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: Is there any terminal command that will return?
[15:32] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, same thing; networking crashed then the laptop did too
[15:33] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: I'm not sure, have you tried running commands from a Live image?
[15:34] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, not those ones
[15:34] <yonatan> TheOneMenzie, the laptop works just fine when i'm not running those commands or trying to suspend, so i guess i'll just use it without suspend?
[15:34] <TheOneMenzie> yonatan: I'm beginning to feel like that's a good idea.
[15:35] <compdoc> is there a way to make video on displayport work using the native ubuntu driver? It works if I install the amdgpu driver, but then I cant set the 24" display to larger than 1028x768 rez
[15:35] <TheOneMenzie> The Live image, that is, yonatan
[15:35] <CoderEurope> compdoc displayport isn't very well supported in gnu+linux
[15:36] <compdoc> oh  :(
[15:36] <CoderEurope> have you tried askubuntu ?
[15:36] <ducasse> compdoc: my intel gpu works just fine with dp
[15:36] <compdoc> this in an AMD APU cpu, with onboard
[15:37] <compdoc> looks like I need to stick to hdmi and dvi
[15:37] <TheOneMenzie> CoderEurope: Actual DisplayPort or HDMI? There's a difference
[15:37] <CoderEurope> compdoc: soz, meant to say not well supported on AMD ....... actual displayPort.
[15:37] <compdoc> I haent tried the hdmi. hopefully that will work
[15:37] <ducasse> compdoc: no experience with modern amd gpus, sorry :(
[15:39] <CoderEurope> compdoc: https://askubuntu.com/questions/546818/displayport-monitor-not-detected-if-switched-off-and-on-again
[15:50] <Perigee> Is there a good place to put hardware details (in relation to getting it to work on Ubuntu)? askubuntu doesn't want anything besides questions, and the ubuntu wiki is a dead graveyard of old material
[15:55] <xiaolu> hellow
[15:55] <liquorfik> hi
[15:55] <liquorfik> which is the torrent client, that supports live streaming? In transmission it seems absent,
[15:56] <Southern_Gentlem> liquorfik, none that i know of
[15:56] <xiaolu> Are  you  a computer?
[15:57] <Southern_Gentlem> xiaolu,  are you ?
[15:57] <nacc> Perigee: as in you have hardware that doesn't work?
[15:58] <Delvien> liquorfik: this is the ubuntu support channel, not "whats the name of this app" channel :P
[15:58] <ducasse> liquorfik: that question borders on what we don't support here, as i doubt you are talking about streaming legally obtained material
[15:58] <akik> Perigee: maybe this(?): https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-certification/
[15:59] <Perigee> nacc: As in, I have a number of tweaks and improvements for my XPS 13 that I'd like to document for people to help.
[15:59] <liquorfik> ducasse: I am talking of streaming feature, it's none of your business, what I do next
[15:59] <ducasse> !illegal | liquorfik
[15:59] <liquorfik> as in windows Utorrent is used, and in linux I need a capable bittorrent client for ubuntu, so yeah it is a linux question, and for my ubuntu not windows
[15:59] <nacc> Perigee: ah, are they things that are personal preferences?
[16:00] <liquorfik> what? This is bittorrent client discussion, it has nothing to do with piracy? wtf
[16:00] <Delvien> liquorfik: yes, it is a linux question, but this is the ubuntu support channel, for support with ubuntu related problems (example: my wifi driver isnt working)
[16:01] <liquorfik> my bittorrent client/ need a good software for ubuntu.
[16:01] <liquorfik> provided in the package manager
[16:01] <Delvien> liquorfik: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=streaming+torrent+client+ubuntu
[16:02] <akik> !google | Delvien
[16:02] <Delvien> akik: I know you didnt just do that.
[16:02] <Delvien> akik pay attention to the conversation please
[16:02] <akik> Delvien: you're welcome
[16:04] <Perigee> nacc: No, more like fixes for power consumption, performance, etc. Things that don't prevent the laptop from being usable "out of the box", but enhance the use of it
[16:04] <Kiicki> Hi, me again. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04.5 and updated everything except for actually upgrading to 16.04. In "Drivers" for some reason I cannot select the "fglrx" driver. I select it and apply but it just throws me back at the Open source one without any warning or nothing. Got a AMD HD 5450
[16:04] <nacc> Perigee: i would file bugs
[16:05] <Delvien> Kiicki: as far as I know fglrx is no longer a thing
[16:05] <ducasse> Kiicki: which kernel are you on?
[16:05] <Delvien> Kiicki: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Dropping-fglrx
[16:05] <Kiicki> I can see the fglrx in "additional driver" as it should be a thing in 14.04
[16:05] <ducasse> Kiicki: if you are on the .5 hwe stack fglrx will not work
[16:05] <Kiicki> I'm not on 16.04
[16:05] <nacc> Kiicki: are you actually on 14.04? why did you mention 16.04?
[16:06] <Delvien> nacc he updated things "except for actually upgrading to 16.04"
[16:06] <akik> fglrx is still available on 14.04
[16:06] <Kiicki> mentioned that I upgraded everything except for the message that wants me to upgrade to 16.04. It was meant to not confuse people that I accidentally upgraded to 16.04. It backfired
[16:06] <nacc> Delvien: which can mean multiple things.
[16:07] <nacc> Kiicki: you need to not be on the 14.04.5 kernel too (install 'linux-image-generic', i expect)
[16:07] <Delvien> nacc exactly my point, which is why i linked that, but people cant seem to process that logically :P
[16:07] <Kiicki> Not sure what you guys mean by available. I can see the driver in "additional driver" I just can't apply to it
[16:07] <ioria> Kiicki, the point it's not the release but the Xorg version
[16:07] <ducasse> Kiicki: use the original 14.04 kernel as nacc says
[16:07] <nacc> Kiicki: the 14.04.5 kernel is the same as 16.04.0/1, which does not support fglrx
[16:08] <ioria> Kiicki, uname -r
[16:08] <akik> wow
[16:08] <Kiicki> ooh, so it doesn't actually matter if I can see it or not. it won't work
[16:08] <Kiicki> would it actually be better that I did a clean install again and install 14.04?
[16:08] <akik> nacc: is there a warning not to update to 14.04.5 if you're using fglrx?
[16:08] <Kiicki> 14.04.4*
[16:08] <anddam> does Unity on 16.04 have a zoom feature?
[16:08] <nacc> Kiicki: no, not 14.04.4
[16:08] <nacc> Kiicki: that is eol
[16:09] <nacc> Kiicki: install the package i mentioned, and reboot to that kernel (3.13 based, iirc)
[16:09] <nacc> akik: i'm honestly not sure, let me see if it's in the release notse
[16:09] <Kiicki> will do, if I can : p
[16:09] <Kiicki> I'm a noob
[16:09] <TheOneMenzie> akik: fglrx is dead, we have xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu for newer hardware X support, and someplace there are new AMD drivers
[16:09] <nacc> TheOneMenzie: yes, thank you, we know :)
[16:10] <KingsQuest> America/1984 -- can you survive it.  its USA be definition
[16:10] <akik> TheOneMenzie: can you install it on 14.04?
[16:10] <nacc> !ot | KingsQuest
[16:11] <akik> my 14.04 system doesn't see xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[16:11] <pvl1> hey all, i kinda need to reinstall almost everything... but most importantly, what packages are involved with configuring network at start up
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | anddam
[16:11] <nacc> akik: only present in 16.04+
[16:12] <Kiicki> nacc for your earlier request "4.4.0-70-generic"
[16:12] <nacc> Kiicki: right, so install the linux-image-generic package ad reboot
[16:13] <TheOneMenzie> nacc: Hey, I just got reconnected
[16:13] <TheOneMenzie> :D
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> anddam: you might need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:13] <nacc> akik: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-lts-xenial
[16:13] <nacc> akik: following the naming of other hwe packages
[16:15] <nacc> Kiicki: so either use the hwe stack (14.04.5) and no fglrx or use the 14.04.1 kernel and X stack (note you might need to isntall the X stack too) to use fglrx
[16:16] <Kiicki> Noted, I would prefer to use fglrx and not the open source one
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> anddam: or unity-tweak-tool might have zoom also
[16:17] <nacc> Kiicki: yes, i'm also asking if this can be documented on te wiki in the release notes
[16:20] <anddam> lotuspsychje: thanks
[16:31] <bigjoe> hey
[16:32] <bigjoe> how do i install android app maker
[16:39] <bivo> lost password recovery on 16.10 wont work, tried mounting as writable as per the instructions here https://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password I put the new password in at the login prompt and the screen flashes black and returns to the login prompt with a blank text entry box.
[16:49] <rsevero> nacc: Yes, the name is perfectly resolvable on 16.04 and 16.10. But in 16.10 I can only test it if I change the ldap.conf ldapi configuration, otherwise I can't login at all ;)
[16:49] <blackflow> bivo: not sure if remounting root is wise nowadays. chrooting is, though, and you should try that instead. for example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[16:49] <nacc> rsevero: hrm, that's strange! it does seem like an ordering issue, but i'm not usre where
[16:49] <nacc> rsevero: i would file a bug, i think
[16:51] <rsevero> nacc: Yes. It really looks like a ordering issue to me but as I mentioned before I couldn't identify the service responsable for setting dns resolution nor the service that seems to hang during login.
[16:53] <tharvey__> on xenial my wlan device keeps immediately disconnecting (worked fine on trusty): wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=02:1a:11:f2:0d:89 reason=4 locally_generated=1 - any ideas?
[16:53] <xcyclist> My DELL laptop (I haven't got a make model, but it's from this year, came with SSD and 8git from UW bookstore in Seattle)
[16:53] <nacc> rsevero: it's possible the ldap service (or whatever is equivalent, maybe even login) is not waiting for network when configured to use ldap, which it must
[16:53] <xcyclist> My Dell laptop randomly moves the mouse cursor.
[16:53] <nacc> rsevero: that's a relatively complicated dependency to notice
[16:54] <xcyclist> It runs Ubuntu.
[16:54] <rsevero> nacc: I believe that's the issue I'm dealing with. I'm just kind of blocked not knowing how top further debug it. Suggestions?
[16:54] <nacc> !bug | rser
[16:55] <nacc> rsevero: --^ sorry, that
[16:55] <nacc> rsevero: i'd file a bug against the ldap package you are using
[16:55] <rsevero> nacc: Ok. Thank you.
[16:58] <xcyclist> I'm not sure mine is a but.  It could be a hardware problem, but the hardware guys don't like to touch things with Linux on them.
[16:58] <nacc> xcyclist: anything in `dmesg` when it happens?
[17:01] <Fleuv> hmmm, something strange is happening every time i login after my laptop went to sleep mode, i get this: http://i.imgur.com/YdYHz6R.png as temporary fix i tried to reboot and yes all things are normal again. But where do i start with solving this problem permanently.
[17:08] <compdoc> not always
[17:09] <blackflow> Fleuv: you have nvidia? It's a known bug
[17:11] <blackflow> Fleuv: In fact, the bug is not with nvidia, but with unity or compiz. You can try downgrade the driver. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1667158
[17:26] <generic> is there a tutorial on sourcing linux-generic ?
[17:26] <nacc> generic: 'sourcing linux-generic'?
[17:27] <generic> nacc: tried apt-get source linux-generic without success ..
[17:27] <nacc> generic: linux-generic is a metapackage
[17:27] <nacc> generic: what are you trying to do?
[17:28] <generic> nacc: i would like to aquire the kernel sources the ubuntu way
[17:28] <technochips> my god
[17:28] <technochips> 1817 users
[17:28] <genii> !vanilla
[17:29] <genii> Hm
[17:29] <nacc> there is a trigger for it right, genii?
[17:29] <genii> Yes
[17:29] <genii> !mainline
[17:29] <nacc> generic: `apt-get install linux-source` iirc
[17:29] <genii> ...there we go
[17:29] <nacc> generic: but that is the ubuntu kernel, to be clear, not the upstream kernel
[17:31] <generic> nacc: are there patches for the upstream ?
[17:31] <nacc> generic: not sure what you mean?
[17:31] <generic> nacc: are these the same sources ..
[17:32] <nacc> generic: how much do you know about kernel development?
[17:32] <nacc> generic: or maybe more relevant, why do you want the kernel source?
[17:33] <generic> nacc: i just wanna create a config for the kernel that's running now
[17:34] <generic> nacc: strange behaviour wlan0 one time wlp the other time
[17:36] <nacc> generic: 'create a config'?
[17:36] <nacc> generic: do you mean the systemd behavior?
[17:37] <generic> nacc: one that doesnt include 100 modules i don't actually use ..
[17:37] <pvl1> can you reinstall a kernel while booted into that same kernel
[17:38] <nacc> generic: that's not worth your time
[17:38] <ducasse> generic: you want to build a custom kernel?
[17:38] <nacc> generic: as once you do that, you then ahve to maintain security fixes for your kernel
[17:38] <potatoes_> howdy folks, I'm having an issue with ubuntu 16.04 and startup, it would appear that at startup ubuntu is installing automatic upgrades and such, i have tried disabling it with no success.
[17:38] <nacc> pvl1: yes
[17:38] <potatoes_> cat <<EOF >/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10disable-periodic;
[17:38] <potatoes_> APT::Periodic::Enable "0";
[17:38] <potatoes_> EOF
[17:38] <nacc> pvl1: the kernel you are running is in memory
[17:38] <pvl1> nacc: figured as such
[17:38] <nacc> potatoes_: 50unattended-upgrades is the relevant file, iirc
[17:39] <nacc> potatoes_: or 20auto-upgrades
[17:39] <potatoes_> err ok
[17:39] <potatoes_> i'll try those
[17:39] <generic> ducasse: if i use apt-get source i should end up with almost the same thing I run now ..
[17:39] <nacc> potatoes_: i mean, one file is insufficient , you need to see the whole state
[17:39] <nacc> generic: which will be out of date in a few days
[17:40] <pvl1> it seems as though, even with -lpthread my gcc isnt finding semaphore.h, and it exists in the paths that are searched by gcc
[17:40] <potatoes_> nacc: that makes sense
[17:40] <potatoes_> nacc: so same cat to diff files
[17:40] <potatoes_> i'll try dat
[17:40] <nacc> pvl1: -lpthread doesnt find headers
[17:40] <nacc> pvl1: that findds a library to link against
[17:40] <nacc> *adds
[17:41] <pvl1> and semaphore isnt part of it?
[17:41] <generic> nacc: ? i'm running 4.4 now .. we're at 4.10
[17:41] <nacc> pvl1: semaphore.h is a header file, not a library
[17:41] <nacc> pvl1: you are confusing -l and -I
[17:41] <nacc> pvl1: and presumably compile-time versus link-time
[17:41] <pvl1> ah i see. but honestly, more than likely, im missing the library then
[17:41] <pvl1> im on an arm toy
[17:42] <nacc> pvl1: no, you're missing the headers if you are getting an error referring to semaphore.h
[17:42] <pvl1> but i can find the file
[17:42] <nacc> generic: "we"
[17:42] <pvl1> and read it
[17:42] <nacc> generic: who is "we"?
[17:42] <nacc> pvl1: doesn't mean the compiler can?
[17:42] <generic> nacc: kernel.org
[17:42] <nacc> generic: right, you don't want to run a mainline kernel in production
[17:42] <nacc> generic: you want to run a stable supported kernel
[17:43] <nacc> generic: which is what you have
[17:43] <generic> nacc: 4.10 is stable ..
[17:43] <pvl1> nacc: hm... how do i test for this, and ensure it can find it?
[17:43] <nacc> !latest | generic
[17:43] <nacc> pvl1: i don't know, can you pastebin the exact output from your build failure?
[17:43] <pvl1> sec
[17:44] <ducasse> generic: why don't you troubleshoot the problem you have instead of randomly starting to build kernels?
[17:44] <nacc> generic: i don't know how to explain to you why it's not a good idea to build (and *maintain*) your own kernel
[17:44] <nacc> generic: but please trust me that it's not
[17:44] <nacc> ducasse: they haven't mentioned a problem yet
[17:45] <ducasse> nacc: they said something about interface names changing
[17:45] <PipeItToDevNull> generic, Reinstall your operating system. Nuke the disk and start from scratch
[17:45] <generic> nacc: i am trying to get familar with apt-get source along the way
[17:45] <nacc> ducasse: ah then systemd naming maybe?
[17:46] <nacc> ducasse: net.ifnames=0 or whatever
[17:46] <ducasse> nacc: egg-sactly my thought
[17:46] <nacc> PipeItToDevNull: what?
[17:46] <generic> PipeItToDevNull: is that really a good idea ?
[17:46] <nacc> PipeItToDevNull: that is terrible advice and i have no idea why you said it
[17:46] <potatoes_> nacc: thanks mate worked like a charm!
[17:46] <ducasse> generic: no, it's not a good idea
[17:46] <PipeItToDevNull> nacc, He has been having issue after issue all morning, he fucked up his system
[17:46] <nacc> potatoes_: np
[17:46] <nacc> !ohmy | PipeItToDevNull
[17:46] <PipeItToDevNull> My apologies
[17:47] <pvl1> nacc: https://pastebin.com/JFu6c19t
[17:47] <nacc> PipeItToDevNull: ah ok, i missed that context, i only know the latest issue (which is not really an issue)
[17:47] <nacc> pvl1: ah those are not heaader issues
[17:47] <nacc> pvl1: hence referring to semaphore.h was wrong :)
[17:48] <nacc> pvl1: the order matters
[17:48] <generic> how can I use a joystick as pointing device ?
[17:48] <nacc> pvl1: put -lpthread at the end
[17:48] <pvl1> rather than begining u mean?
[17:48] <generic> i only have one mouse :(
[17:48] <PipeItToDevNull> nacc, he has been having mmany issues and not following through with any of their solutions, I believe something is buggered with his current setup. Reproducing the issues on a clean slate would be the best course of action, as far as I can see of course
[17:48] <nacc> pvl1: correct
[17:52] <pvl1> well, im making progress it seems
[17:52] <pvl1> nacc: uh how did you ID that the issue could be the order
[17:53] <nacc> pvl1: prior knowledge. Also `man gcc`: "Also, the placement of the -l option is significant."
[17:53] <pvl1> ill read into that stuff
[17:53] <pvl1> but maybe u can help me with another issue
[17:53] <pvl1> so, trying to find out that its the order, i botched this system pretty good
[17:54] <pvl1> and i think i need to reinstall base networking packages
[17:54] <pvl1> if i enable an eth in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:54] <pvl1> itll come up with a dhcp lease, and route, etc.... but not work until i get a new dhcp lease
[17:54] <pvl1> and i know a lot of files were, missing or corrupted
[17:55] <nacc> pvl1: uh, you were mucking with system files to build a program?
[17:56] <nacc> pvl1: fyi, `man gcc`, search for '-l library' to understand why order matters
[17:56] <pvl1> not exactly, i mucked sources list i think
[17:56] <Kiicki> nac silly question here but would it work if I installed 16.04 and downgraded the Kernel to be able to install/apply the fglrx? I assume not so I will stay on 14.04.5
[17:56] <pvl1> and did an upgrade i shouldnt have
[17:56] <pvl1> *dist-upgrade
[17:57] <nacc> Kiicki: no, no fglrx o 16.04 period
[17:57] <nacc> *no fglrx on 16.04
[17:57] <pvl1> i gave up on ati lol
[17:57] <nacc> Kiicki: there's nowhere to downgrade to with 16.04
[17:57] <Kiicki> Noted thanks.
[17:57] <nacc> pvl1: sounds like you should reinstall
[17:58] <pvl1> lol nacc its rather funny you say that
[18:00] <tapanik> 3 weeks ubuntu 16.04, no more windows
[18:00] <pvl1> so checkit, i was able to boot into the system. but a there were some kind of nand mount errors. so certain bins, were \NULL (i know this from running, for example, hexedit /usr/bin/lsusb)
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | tapanik
[18:00] <Kiicki> is there an Ubuntu chat channel?
[18:00] <tapanik> my windows 8.1 recovery dvd:s crash my laptop
[18:01] <pvl1> so a part of the FS was fine, since i can run hexedit, but then certain files were corrupted. so, i did the process of i think upgrading kernels for this device, rather than reinstalling.
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> tapanik: if still need specific packages, feel free to ask
[18:01] <pvl1> which worked, however, then, apt thought that many things were installed, that were corrupted
[18:01] <tapanik> i will ask if some issues
[18:01] <pvl1> so its like, ive gotten it to the point where its booting, im running weechat/openvpn etc...
[18:01] <pvl1> so id rather avoid re-installing
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Kiicki
[18:02] <nacc> pvl1: this sounds rather tricky -- and i need to step away to other things
[18:02] <pvl1> understand nacc
[18:02] <pvl1> thank for all that you do here :)
[18:03] <nacc> pvl1: np, good luck!
[18:03] <tapanik> ubuntu works very fast and smooth
[18:03] <tapanik> windows freeze etc
[18:03] <Kiicki> lotuspsychje thanks
[18:07] <Guest63778> Hello everyone, I am only a few weeks in using the command line and having a difficult time d/l and installing Weechat on my computer. I have tried following the instructions d/l from depository but It is above me. I also looked for weechat in Ubuntu Software to d/ lthat way but it is not there. Any ideas that are simple so I can get it going?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> !info weechat | Guest63778
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest63778: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[18:09] <Guest63778> 16.01
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest63778: 16.10?
[18:09] <pavlos> Guest63778, method 2 seems easy ... http://sourcedigit.com/19873-install-weechat-irc-chat-client-linux-ubuntu-16-04/
[18:10] <Guest63778> yes 16.10
[18:10] <CoderEurope> Guest63778: Hiyas do you have VPN ?    $12USD https://www.humblebundle.com/streaming-software-bundle
[18:11] <nacc> !ot | CoderEurope
[18:11] <Guest63778> lotuspsychje: thank you
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> pavlos: perhaps warn users the risks of ppa, when providing such methods?
[18:15] <Kiicki> nacc I'm actually lost with the information you gave me about installing "Image Generic" and change Kernel or downgrade
[18:15] <nacc> Kiicki: i updated the release notes for trusty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[18:16] <nacc> Kiicki: the fglrx and the 14.04.5 hwe stack section
[18:19] <Kiicki> nacc I assume I already made a mistake on the first command -.-
[18:19] <Kiicki> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24269241/
[18:20] <nacc> Kiicki: that appears to be unrelated
[18:20] <nacc> Kiicki: in that unity-control-center is already broken?
[18:20] <nacc> Kiicki: pastebin `apt-get -f install`
[18:21] <Kiicki> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[18:21] <Kiicki> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:21] <nacc> Kiicki: welll, sudo
[18:21] <nacc> Kiicki: `sudo apt-get -f install`
[18:21] <Kiicki> damn me
[18:22] <Kiicki> 0 updates/upgrades
[18:23] <Kiicki> Like all I have done is to install 14.04.5 and update everything with "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"
[18:23] <Kiicki> That's it
[18:24] <nacc> Kiicki: can you pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 libcheese-gtk23` ?
[18:25] <Kiicki> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24269273/
[18:26] <nacc> Kiicki: so keep following that pattern -- i'm not sure where the root cause is, tbh -- let me see if i can spin up a vm
[18:30] <nacc> Kiicki: ok, reproduced,  maybe my command wasn't perfect, give me one sec :)
[18:32] <Kiicki> Will do, thanks
[18:35] <nacc> Kiicki: ok, updateed the wiki pae
[18:35] <nacc> *page
[18:36] <nacc> Kiicki: that comamnd worked in my VM an removed the HWE stack
[18:37] <Kiicki> It's installing
[18:37] <Kiicki> yeah, it's removing bunch of things
[18:37] <nacc> Kiicki: thanks for testing that command! :)
[18:37] <Kiicki> lol
[18:37] <Kiicki> well no problem. I can always reinstall if something bad happens
[18:38] <nacc> Kiicki: in this case, we're basically just telling apt how to resolve the issue (downgrading really)
[18:38] <Kiicki> will reboot now. Just apply the driver changes after?
[18:38] <nacc> Kiicki: note that it won't remove the 14.04.5 hwe kernel -- since you can have boththe 14.04.1 and .5 kernels
[18:39] <nacc> Kiicki: that's what i'd try yeah
[18:41] <Kiicki> nacc So applying "fglrx" gives me a "System program problem detected"
[18:42] <Kiicki> yeah, got a crash report
[18:42] <ElNamano> So I have a problem
[18:43] <ElNamano> I have Ubuntu installed on one hard drive, windows on the other
[18:43] <ElNamano> but I cant get windows to show in grub
[18:43] <ElNamano> I've got os-prober installed and I've tried update-grub
[18:47] <Kiicki> nacc I'm not even sure if this is my report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1676079
[18:48] <Kiicki> I'm getting to a point where I actually think it's impossible
[18:48] <klaasvakie> tify kouekloue
[18:49] <Kiicki> Unless I go open source which was not great
[18:49] <nacc> Kiicki: can you pastebin `apt-get install fglrx` ?
[18:49] <nacc> Kiicki: it should not be building against the 4.3 kernel, or if it does it, ti will fail and can be ignored
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | ElNamano
[18:51] <nacc> is fglrx a dkms driver?
[18:51] <nacc> Kiicki: sorry, was afk briefly
[18:51] <f0rd> nohup won't stop a background process from hanging up.  stty says "-tostop" and echo $- shows 'm' --- what do I need to do to get this working? ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[18:51] <Kiicki> nacc at this point I'm afraid to take the next step in case I fuck up: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24269394/
[18:51] <PfaU> I have an arcade project I was planning on running a live USB 'Kiosk style' build on. I would like to be able to run MAME from this build, but I do NOT want to have MAME installed on the local machine anywhere, or have ROMs stored on the machine either. Id like to note if MAME has any sort of dependency packages not purely related to mame, I wouldnt have a problem with downloading them on the local machine. If anyone could steer me in the
[18:51] <PfaU> right direction, Id greatly appreciate it.
[18:51] <ElNamano> @lotuspsychje that doesn't really help. update-grub/os-prober should just work but they don't
[18:52] <nacc> Kiicki: oh wait, can you run `sudo apt-get autoremove` and then try to use teh GUI to install fglrx again?
[18:52] <nacc> *enable fglrx
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> ElNamano: tell us the whole story mate? ubuntu version? windows version? wich did you install first? uefi settings correct?
[18:54] <ElNamano> Ubuntu 16.04, Windows 8, Windows was installed first
[18:55] <ElNamano> It was working fine until I reinstalled ubuntu a few weeks ago
[18:55] <ElNamano> Now grub doesnt show windows
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> ElNamano: how did you reinstall?
[18:55] <ElNamano> With an ubtuntu live USB
[18:55] <Kiicki> nacc well now I cannot even log in. Correct password but it throws me back to where I need to enter the password. So I'm stuck
[18:56] <ElNamano> UEFI, 95% sure of that
[18:56] <Kiicki> nacc Think I give up on this GPU. but thanks
[18:56] <ElNamano> Wiped entire drive and reinstalled
[18:56] <EriC^^> ElNamano: can you pastebin sudo parted -l ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> ElNamano: did ubuntu ask about your windows8 partition?
[18:57] <ElNamano> I think it did
[18:57] <ElNamano> But I didnt really pay attention
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> ElNamano: ok, pastebin what EriC^^ asked plz
[18:57] <nacc> Kiicki: huh?
[18:57] <nacc> Kiicki: you rebooted i take it?
[18:57] <Kiicki> yeah
[18:57] <nacc> Kiicki: after ... enabling fglrx?
[18:57] <ElNamano> https://pastebin.com/Bq7jCLUF
[18:58] <ElNamano> The sandisk has linux, the WD is windows
[18:58] <Kiicki> nacc after that big command I could actually apply the fglrx so it was enabled but I got crash reports and such so it was enabled. it said in additional drivers that I should restart. I restarted and I'm stuck at login.
[18:59] <EriC^^> ElNamano: ubuntu and windows have to be installed in the same mode for them to work together
[18:59] <Kiicki> So it was enabled but probably not working
[18:59] <ElNamano> Ah, so windows must be legacy while ubuntu is UEFI?
[18:59] <EriC^^> ElNamano: yeah
[19:00] <ElNamano> No way to fix without a reinstall of one?
[19:00] <EriC^^> ElNamano: you can make the fat32 a bios_boot partition and install grub-pc
[19:01] <ElNamano> EriC^^: How would I go about doing that
[19:01] <ElNamano> ?
[19:01] <EriC^^> ElNamano: type sudo cgdisk /dev/sda
[19:02] <EriC^^> ElNamano: highlight the fat32 go to type and type in "ef02"
[19:02] <ElNamano> Done
[19:02] <ElNamano> Now its a BIOS boot partition
[19:02] <EriC^^> press on write, then quit if you have to
[19:03] <ElNamano> then apt install grub-pc?
[19:03] <EriC^^> ElNamano: not yet, type sudo umount /boot/efi
[19:04] <EriC^^> ElNamano: then sudo nano /etc/fstab
[19:04] <f0rd> nohup won't stop a background process from hanging up.  stty says "-tostop" and echo $- shows 'm' --- what do I need to do to get this working? ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[19:04] <nacc> Kiicki: can you drop to a shell (ctrl+alt+f1) and see if fglrx loaded? which kernel did you boot to?
[19:05] <ElNamano> what do I do with the fstab file?
[19:06] <EriC^^> ElNamano: comment out the line that has /boot/efi in it, put a "#" at the start of the line so it's #UUID=....
[19:06] <ElNamano> done
[19:07] <vintagesheep> Hello im having some graphical issues with ubuntu atm
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !details | vintagesheep
[19:08] <EriC^^> ElNamano: save & quit then sudo apt-get purge grub-efi-amd64-signed grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64 grub2+
[19:08] <vintagesheep> !pastebin
[19:09] <ElNamano> EriC^^: Do I just select my linux drive when it asks me about GRUB install devices
[19:09] <ElNamano> ?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: ubuntu version? graphics card version? what happens exactly? would be usefull for us
[19:09] <EriC^^> ElNamano: yeah
[19:10] <nacc> f0rd: have you tried `disown` ?
[19:10] <nacc> f0rd: upon starting the backgrounded process
[19:10] <ElNamano> EriC^^ Am I stupid or something? Enter just skips forward and says none selected
[19:11] <ElNamano> Doesnt select a drive...
[19:11] <EriC^^> ElNamano: use space on it
[19:11] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> hello how do i get my VPS working with my domain name?
[19:11] <vintagesheep> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24269564/ and an image showing http://imgur.com/a/QsbeM
[19:11] <vintagesheep> my version is 14.0.4
[19:12] <ElNamano> EriC^^ Is it done? Do I just reboot and update grub>?
[19:12] <tgm4883> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: assuming you want a webserver, you'd need to point an A record at your IP address and setup your webserver to listen for that FQDN
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: update your system to 14.04.5 first please
[19:12] <EriC^^> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: add your nameserver to the domain and in the nameserver point it to your vps ip with an a record
[19:12] <vintagesheep> atm im getting an update for 16.04
[19:12] <vintagesheep> should i do that one?
[19:13] <fleskil> hello. hopefully this is the right place. i have some problems with booting ubuntu. i have been trying for 2 days. im trying to dual boot with windows. it just shows a blank/purple screen when i try to run ubuntu
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: your choice mate for distro upgrade
[19:13] <EriC^^> ElNamano: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep grub"
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: both versions are supported
[19:14] <f0rd> nacc: nohup worked fine in 12.04
[19:14] <f0rd> nacc: I read this https://community.hpe.com/t5/Languages-and-Scripting/nohup-is-not-working/m-p/5271002#M41491
[19:14] <nacc> f0rd: was just a suggestion
[19:14] <blackflow> fleskil: does it change to text output when you hit ESC?
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> fleskil: uefi settings correctly?
[19:14] <f0rd> nacc: i was aware, but thanks: http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-to-do-when-nohup-hangs-up-anyway.html
[19:14] <ElNamano> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/7PPKBnQP
[19:15] <EriC^^> ElNamano: ok, try sudo update-grub
[19:15] <fleskil> hit esc in boot menu or when blank screen appears?
[19:15] <blackflow> fleskil: when the purple screen appears
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: if you like to stay on 14.04 update to the .5, or else you can distro upgrade to 16.04.2 your choice
[19:15] <EriC^^> ElNamano: did it give any errors after you chose the linux drive?
[19:15] <ElNamano> EriC^^: No errors
[19:16] <ElNamano> update-grub ran fine but still no windows
[19:16] <ElNamano> I imagine I need to reboot?
[19:16] <EriC^^> ok try rebooting
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> vintagesheep: lets see if the updates fix your screen glitch first, if not come back here allright?
[19:17] <fleskil> blackflow: hm no, nothing happens
[19:17] <vintagesheep> ok will do
[19:17] <intel-compute-st> Im using a STCK1A8LFC, 1gb ram, 8gb flash, Intel compute stik with ubuntu. After apt-get installing wine, the disc was used up, and now I have "no network device found"
[19:17] <intel-compute-st> it has 14.04 LTS
[19:17] <blackflow> fleskil: and that's a "normal" installation? not encrypted root?
[19:17] <intel-compute-st> what the hell do I do?
[19:18] <intel-compute-st> is there a module I can insmod?
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: you mean your usb stick is full?
[19:19] <fleskil> blackflow: i think its a normal installation yes. i used the "something else" option though.
[19:19] <fleskil> blackflow: im also quite sure i that correctly
[19:19] <ElNamano> EriC^^: "Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sdb1" I love you bro
[19:19] <ElNamano> Thanks!
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | EriC^^
[19:19] <EriC^^> ElNamano: no problem
[19:20] <EriC^^> thanks lotuspsychje :D
[19:20] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: yes
[19:20] <intel-compute-st> but now I have 200mb after apt-get clean
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: try to cleanup some stuff?
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: I DID
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> modprobe modprobe r8723bs
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> says the module doesn't exist
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: try with bleachbit, some other folders might be full
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> the kernel wasnt upgraded
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> what is bleachbit?
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> I can't get any networking now
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | intel-compute-st
[19:21] <intel-compute-st> im fucked
[19:21] <blackflow> fleskil: but the boot menu is there?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: plz keep it polite in channel
[19:22] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: but I can't get any networking
[19:22] <intel-compute-st> where did my wifi go?
[19:22] <intel-compute-st> where did the module go?
[19:22] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: what do I do?
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: check sudo lshw -C network if driver= shows?
[19:22] <eanyx> hi
[19:22] <fleskil> blackflow: yes it is.
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> eanyx: welcome, how can we help you?
[19:23] <eanyx> I need to make a cluster with an apps which was not design to be in cluster. Is it possible to make a cluster with it?
[19:23] <eanyx> i use haproxy and keepalived
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> eanyx: ubuntu server?
[19:23] <eanyx> yes
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> eanyx: try the #ubuntu-server channel mate, they are more experienced in this
[19:24] <fleskil> blackflow: i also tried replacing something i cant remember with nomadeset
[19:24] <eanyx> thank you lotuspsychje
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: driver= module should show at bottom
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: if not, it will say UNCLAIMED
[19:26] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: that command doesn't work at all
[19:26] <intel-compute-st> it SHOULD WORK
[19:26] <intel-compute-st> but it shows me help instead
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: typed correctly? sudo lshw -C network
[19:27] <intel-compute-st> yes
[19:27] <intel-compute-st> just shows me "help" info about lshw
[19:28] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: with the shorter command lshw -C network
[19:28] <intel-compute-st> it shows PCI for a min
[19:28] <intel-compute-st> then exits and shows nothing
[19:28] <intel-compute-st> how did attempting and failing to install wine destroy networking?
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> I even had 950MB free
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> it says 200 to download 600MB to install
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> STILL some things failed due to "used up all disc space"
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> and now I have no networking
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> im fucked
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: please keep your language family friendly here
[19:29] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: what do I do
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> I bought this thing from intel
[19:30] <fleskil> blackflow: you still here?
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: clean up some space...
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> used their installed operating system
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: I did, I have 400MB free
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> but I have no networking
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: some folders might been full you dont know about
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> I have no idea where the .debs for intel's version of the kernel are
[19:30] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: midnightcommander says I have space
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: pastebin us df -h plz?
[19:31] <intel-compute-st> how?
[19:31] <intel-compute-st> I have no networking
[19:31] <intel-compute-st> I can't
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: do it for yourself
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: see wich folder is 100%
[19:31] <tgm4883> Don't use enter as punctuation
[19:34] <fleskil> blackflow?
[19:34] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje:  / is at 96 percent with 120MB free
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: 120mb is nothing, free up some space mate
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: I cant
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> I have like nothing installed
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> and still this happens
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> but how do I fix the networking? why did it disappear
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: uninstall stuff a bit
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> and how does a barebones install waste all the gb
[19:35] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: I did allready
[19:36] <intel-compute-st> there's nothing left to uninstall other than tuxracer
[19:36] <intel-compute-st> I'll try uninst that
[19:37] <fleskil> lotuspsychje: seems like blackflow is not here anymore. do you have time?
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> fleskil: sorry have to go mate, re-ask your issue in the channel
[19:38] <fleskil> oh okay
[19:39] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: now im at 94% and 304MB free
[19:40] <intel-compute-st> lotuspsychje: should I restart and hope it works now?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> intel-compute-st: yeah try
[19:40] <fleskil> re-asking the issue: ubuntu just shows purple/blank screen when trying to boot for the first time.. what to do?
[19:41] <fleskil> trying to dual boot with windows
[19:41] <Ingenic> add -v to the boot options in grub and see what its hanging on
[19:42] <intel-compute-st> it didnt work
[19:42] <intel-compute-st> what the fuck do I DO!!!!!!
[19:42] <tgm4883> !ohmy | intel-compute-st
[19:43] <fleskil> ingenic: add -v where?
[19:43] <FinalX> heh, "ohmy".. George Takei fan whoever made that? :P
[19:45] <Ingenic> fleskil: when you get to grub, hit whatever button it is (e i think) to edit boot options before it boots. add it in with all the other options, usually like the second to last line. Haven't done it in a while, I'm sure someone else or google would have a better explanation lol
[19:50] <fleskil> since enginic quit: re asking the question once again: ubuntu just shows blank/purple screen after trying to boot for the first time. dual boot with windows. what to do?
[19:51] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> EriC^^ , http://imgur.com/J5z3hHY       is this correct?
[19:51] <fleskil> please someone. i have been trying for 2 days straight.
[19:51] <fognl> Question:  I have 16.04 server installed, and for some reason, it doesn't get DNS from the dhcp server.  All other systems on the network are fine.  I can ping ip's on the internet, just no domains.  How can I set my dns (now that resolv.conf is no longer used) ?
[19:51] <compdoc> fleskil, what sort of cable do you use to connect the monitor?
[19:52] <fleskil> compdoc: its a laptop
[19:52] <compdoc> fleskil, did you install a driver, or are you using the standard ubuntu driver?
[19:53] <PipeItToDevNull> fognl, Can you not set your DNS through the network manager?
[19:53] <fleskil> compdoc: i dont think i have installed any additional drivers. so probably the standard ubuntu driver
[19:53] <kernelpanic> Hi
[19:53] <fognl> PipeItToDevNull, how to do this on the command line?
[19:54] <fleskil> compdoc: i red about this. and tried to boot by replacing quiet splash with nomadeset
[19:54] <compdoc> fleskil, so what happens if you d/l and boot the ubuntu desktop cd?
[19:54] <fognl> PipeItToDevNull, seems like I can't use DHCP and manually set ip address
[19:54] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> tgm4883 is this right? reguarding VPS http://imgur.com/J5z3hHY
[19:54] <fleskil> compdoc: im not sure what you are asking. ive used an usb stick for installation
[19:54] <jinxi1> I am so thankful for Ubuntu :-)
[19:54] <PipeItToDevNull> fognl, my system has a /etc/resolvconf.conf that I edit
[19:55] <tgm4883> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: yea that looks good
[19:55] <intel-compute-st> Im using a STCK1A8LFC, 1gb ram, 8gb flash, Intel compute stik with ubuntu. After apt-get installing wine, the disc was used up, and now I have "no network device found". The module is supposed to be rtl8723bs and can be seen in the linux source folder on the stick
[19:55] <intel-compute-st> Im using a STCK1A8LFC, 1gb ram, 8gb flash, Intel compute stik with ubuntu. After apt-get installing wine, the disc was used up, and now I have "no network device found". The module is supposed to be rtl8723bs and can be seen in the linux source folder on the stick
[19:55] <intel-compute-st> Im using a STCK1A8LFC, 1gb ram, 8gb flash, Intel compute stik with ubuntu. After apt-get installing wine, the disc was used up, and now I have "no network device found". The module is supposed to be rtl8723bs and can be seen in the linux source folder on the stick
[19:55] <fleskil> compdoc: booting from usb stick works. but the installtion from there has been hell
[19:55] <compdoc> fleskil, boot the usb installer, and dont select Install. Choose Try Ubuntu
[19:55] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> is that all I need tgm4883 ? now just wait 48 hours?
[19:55] <fleskil> compdoc: i have done that
[19:56] <compdoc> and it works?
[19:56] <tgm4883> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: probably don't need to wait 48 hours, should be pretty quick since it's a new record
[19:56] <intel-compute-st> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
[19:56] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> thank you tgm4883
[19:56] <fleskil> compdoc: it works yes
[19:56] <tgm4883> !patience | intel-compute-st
[19:57] <fognl> PipeItToDevNull, mine doesn't seem to have that, but let me see if i can make it
[19:57] <fleskil> compdoc: i tried to install it from there
[19:57] <fleskil> i have tried boot repair
[19:57] <fleskil> compdoc: i have tried so many things
[19:58] <compdoc> fleskil, none of that is the same thing. You can boot the UBuntu cd as a 'live os', meaning it runs completely from the cd
[19:58] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: if it was me, I'd try reinstalling ubuntu to a microsd card
[19:58] <EriC^^> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: tgm4883 that'll point Pineapple.domain.com to the vps right?
[19:58] <intel-compute-st> tgm4883: how do I do that
[19:59] <intel-compute-st> how do I even get an ISO
[19:59] <intel-compute-st> how do I do ANY of this
[19:59] <intel-compute-st> im completely screwed
[19:59] <intel-compute-st> I guess I have to return it
[19:59] <fleskil> compdoc: im sure what you are saying. im capable of running it live trough usb stick
[19:59] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: I really don't have the time to walk someone this green through an install
[19:59] <matbram> I'm intimidated by the amount of people in this channel...
[19:59] <intel-compute-st> why is it that I cannot get the fucking .debs for the kernel ANYWHERE
[20:00] <intel-compute-st> tgm4883: I've done it from CDs
[20:00] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: if you can return it I would, and get something that isn't terrible
[20:00] <fleskil> compdoc: i want to install it on my ssd
[20:00] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> it will be pointd to pineapplepump.com tgm4883
[20:00] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: language, you've been warned multiple times
[20:00] <intel-compute-st> tgm4883: it was working fine untill ubuntu shit the fucking bed
[20:00] <tgm4883> EriC^^: yes that is correct
[20:00] <intel-compute-st> "OH CANT INSTALL WINE"
[20:00] <tgm4883> !ops
[20:00] <EriC^^> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: is the domain pineapplepump.com ?
[20:00] <intel-compute-st> "SO LETS DELETE THE KERNEL MODULE"
[20:00] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> yes EriC^^
[20:00] <EriC^^> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: ok, under Host leave it blank
[20:01] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> ok
[20:01] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: honestly, return it and get something that isn't bay trail / cherry trail
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> intel-compute-st: Seriously, watch the language - they're not kidding...
[20:03] <intel-compute-st> tonyyarusso: why can no one help me
[20:03] <elky> because you're screaming obscenities and being hostile
[20:04] <tonyyarusso> Presumably because they don't know the answer to your problem?
[20:04] <intel-compute-st> eveyone has been ingnoring me from the start
[20:04] <tgm4883> also the hardware you're using doesn't help
[20:04] <tgm4883> I've got one of those sitting in a box unused for a reason
[20:04] <intel-compute-st> tgm4883: it's better than my old laptops..
[20:04] <intel-compute-st> how is it
[20:04] <TheOneMenzie> Wait, the actual Intel Compute Stick has 64-bit UEFI? Lucky you, I can't get Ubuntu working at all on the IView Cyber PC because it has 32-bit UEFI
[20:04] <intel-compute-st> that the linux kernel module just deleted itself?
[20:04] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: it's junk, which is why it's sitting in a box
[20:04] <intel-compute-st> tonyyarusso: no, the 32 bit one
[20:05] <intel-compute-st> tgm4883: it was fine for watching videos the ONE day it worked
[20:05] <intel-compute-st> why is it I can't find a .deb anywhere for this module
[20:05] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: those devices are ok, if you keep them pretty much stock
[20:05] <intel-compute-st> and HOW DID IT DELETE ITSELF
[20:05] <Guest____> uefi is actually not necessary at all.  possibly not even to bypass those Microsoft computers that people care about for some reason
[20:05] <TheOneMenzie> !caps | intel-compute-st
[20:06] <elky> TheOneMenzie: there are several ops here watching and trying to get him to stop with the yelling
[20:06] <tgm4883> intel-compute-st: IIRC, you can't find it because it doesn't exist. I think most of that is proprietary binary blobs
[20:06] <TheOneMenzie> elky: ((Don't I know it, but did we get rid of that factoid?))
[20:06] <compdoc> can you have two monitors conencted to ubuntu, and have them both display the same thing at the same time? The desktop
[20:06] <tgm4883> compdoc: yes
[20:06] <compdoc> cool
[20:07] <fleskil> compdoc: please, i need some help
[20:08] <Guest____> i think amd64 is biggest blunder every except for older hardware.  it should not be outdated.  you have to be a machine to do amd64 or a savant.
[20:08] <Guest____> people needs olds
[20:08] <Guest____> old computers are priceless
[20:08] <Guest____> jobs
[20:08] <PipeItToDevNull> Guest____, UEFI is amazing
[20:09] <tgm4883> !OT | Guest____
[20:09] <popey> Guest____: discussion can be done elsewhere, this is a support channel.
[20:09] <Langley> Hello, is it possible to automatically switch audio to and from HDMI? On a 14.04 based distro
[20:10] <tekisui> i got pulseaudio for that
[20:13] <moracabanas1> Hi im not sure if I can ask here about Ubuntu. Im new about all thi
[20:15] <ppf> since a couple of days i see this in my shutdown log: systemd-cryptsetup[4349]: Failed to deactivate: Device or resource busy
[20:15] <ppf> what might cause this?
[20:15] <tekisui> hello moracabanas1
[20:15] <ppf> occasionally, that also includes waiting for the unit to time out
[20:16] <ppf> so what's that?
[20:18] <tekisui> i have no idea
[20:19] <Langley> tekisui, how? I seemingly already have module-switch-on-connect loaded, but it doesn't switch
[20:19] <tekisui> in music/video there is pulseaudio volume settings
[20:20] <Langley> what? I want it globally
[20:21] <tekisui> hmm is all i know.
[20:21] <erialdo> hello, when I try to do "sudo apt update"
[20:21] <erialdo> it shows "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:21] <erialdo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:21] <erialdo> "
[20:22] <erialdo> can somebody help?
[20:22] <Langley> erialdo, you don't have Synaptic or something else open, right?
[20:22] <erialdo> yes i have chrome tabs @Langley
[20:23] <moracabanas1> Hi I have a Surface pro 4 (ye I know) and I found a kernel to get Ubuntu 16.04 fully working but, I want that kernel built on a live Ubuntu. I tried out to install it on a persistent live Ubuntu but no way. How could I build my own Live 16.04 with this kernel? Documentation is tooadvance for me. Thanks
[20:23] <popey> erialdo: try again, does it still do it?
[20:23] <erialdo> and synaptic in the background
[20:23] <popey> close synaptic
[20:23] <erialdo> the problem persists
[20:23] <glitchd> is there a way to disable 2-finger zoom while keeping the other 2-finger functions for the touchpad?
[20:23] <erialdo> but I never had any problem before
[20:24] <erialdo> i quit synaptic
[20:24] <erialdo> its the same
[20:24] <popey> erialdo: run "sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock" and it will tell you what is holding the lock
[20:25] <erialdo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:25] <erialdo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:25] <massprog> where is source code of installed packages in linux?
[20:25] <popey> erialdo: did you see what I said?
[20:25] <erialdo> yes
[20:25] <popey> massprog: "apt source <packagename>" will download the source for any particular package
[20:25] <glitchd> erialdo, you must have synaptic, or the software center either open or hanging open still
[20:25] <erialdo> it showed that error
[20:25] <popey> erialdo: so, run sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock, what did it say?
[20:26] <erialdo> this : lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs Output information may be incomplete.
[20:26] <massprog> popey, thank you
[20:26] <popey> erialdo: do you have apt open in another terminal
[20:26] <popey> ?
[20:27] <erialdo> no
[20:27] <erialdo> ok now it shows no problem
[20:27] <erialdo> maybe it was the chrome tabs
[20:27] <popey> there was probably an apt running in the background
[20:27] <popey> no it wouldn't be chrome
[20:28] <erialdo> strange because I never had that problem
[20:28] <erialdo> ah ok
[20:28] <tekisui> bits ´n pieces
[20:28] <popey> yeah, it's a matter of timing
[20:28] <erialdo> maybe it is the fact that two weeks ago, I was trying to remove unnecessary files with bleachbit (root)
[20:28] <glitchd> is it possible to disable pinch to zoom but keep other 2 finger options activated?
[20:29] <erialdo> and I interrupted the process
[20:29] <erialdo> i was cleaning the apt cache
[20:29] <popey> i wouldn't recommend using bleachbit personally
[20:29] <erialdo> yeah now I know
[20:29] <erialdo> I shouldn't have used it
[20:29] <erialdo> it caused me problems
[20:30] <erialdo> regarding apt
[20:30] <tekisui> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91426/reverse-two-finger-scroll-direction-natural-scrolling/171064#171064
[20:30] <moracabanas1> Hi could someone teach me how to build a custom kernel live Ubuntu 16.04? Thanks you
[20:31] <Delysid> Hey guys. I have a problem with my ubuntu 16.04 -- I can't power it off properly. I literally have to long-press power off button for it to power off.. I tried powering it off from console, also tried adding acpi=force to my grub file.. Any ideas on how should I debug this ?
[20:31] <erialdo> thanks @popey for the help
[20:33] <ppf> Delysid: what happens if you shut it down
[20:33] <Delysid> It gets stuck on ubuntu power off splash screen
[20:34] <massprog> popey,
[20:34] <massprog> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list . how can I fix this ?
[20:36] <glitchd> where are the setting located that control then pinch to zoom feature?
[20:36] <glitchd> *control the pinch to zoom feature?
[20:37] <moracabanas1> What IRC should I go about learn to build my custom kernel live Ubuntu 16.04? Thanks
[20:40] <nacc> moracabanas1: why do you want to build a custom kernel?
[20:42] <moracabanas1> @nacc I have a Surface pro 4 and I found a fully functional kernel, but I want it as a live image not installed on my main drive
[20:43] <ppf> Delysid: hit escape
[20:43] <ppf> Delysid: also check journalctl -b -1
[20:43] <giang> which is better ? screen or tmux ?
[20:43] <nacc> moracabanas1: so you need to build your own live usb?
[20:43] <Volund> Hahahahaha. TRIUMPH
[20:43] <nacc> giang: matter of opinion
[20:43] <nacc> giang: and thus offtopic :)
[20:43]  * Volund creates bash script that can turn on and off Line In listening. I think.
[20:43] <giang> im a newbie
[20:44] <giang> need a deplexter to work with vim, or helping me in remoting stuff
[20:45] <wedgie> giang: tmux is newer and supposedly better. So if you're not familiar with either i'd say go tmux. I use screen, myself, but mostly out of long habbit
[20:45] <moracabanas1> @nacc Yes, I have 2 .deb files to install the kernell and some files to the intel ACPI. Also have to create a new folder and symbolic links to the intel copied archives. I can paste my reddit question if you want it well explaied
[20:46] <giang> well, since tmux is not in default repo, i choose screen
[20:46] <nacc> !info tmux
[20:46] <wedgie> tmux is most certainly in the default repo
[20:46] <nacc> giang: not sure what you're talking about?
[20:46] <Random832> "deplexter" isn't even a word
[20:46] <giang> no
[20:46] <nacc> giang: it's been in main for some time
[20:46] <giang> really
[20:46] <nacc> giang: yes.
[20:47] <giang> i tried sudo apt-get install tmux
[20:47] <giang> damn
[20:47] <giang> miss spell
[20:47] <genii> Maybe try sudo apt update before that
[20:47] <giang> i typed sudo apt-get install timux
[20:48] <nacc> anyone remember the trigger for the livecd/usb customization?
[20:48] <nacc> moracabanas1: seems like you can follwo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:49] <Jan\\> I try to manually install grub it says: could not find device for //boot: not found or not a block device.
[20:49] <nacc> moracabanas1: but you are *not* building your own kenrel if you are installing a .deb
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: What grub-install command did you run exactly?
[20:50] <Jan\\> command used         grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[20:50] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: Are you running this from a LiveCD/USB?
[20:50] <Jan\\> Jordan_U: yes
[20:50] <moracabanas1> @nacc but the kernel itself is packaged in a 2 .debs and I don't know about puting that on a live Ubuntu 16
[20:51] <Jan\\> Jordan_U: grub failed to install from the lubuntu install
[20:51] <moracabanas1> @nacc check this https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/60meml/custom_kernel_ubuntu_1604_live_cd_surface_pro_4/
[20:51] <Jan\\> Jordan_U: so now I'm trying to manually install grub
[20:51] <nacc> moracabanas1: did you read the link?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: Then you need to mount the filesystem containing /boot/ and provide the path to that /boot/ directory as the value of --boot-directory (you can get rid of --recheck and --no-floppy, and I would recommend --boot-directory rather than --root-directory as the semantics are easier to get right).
[20:52] <moracabanas1> yes, you don't know how much I appreciate your help
[20:52] <nacc> moracabanas1: having .debs already means you don't need to build anything
[20:52] <moracabanas1> @nacc yes, you don't know how much I appreciate your help
[20:52] <nacc> moracabanas1: just make a custom USB using those guide(s)
[20:53] <moracabanas1> @nacc I will try. I am here because the gide is tremendous IT lv.80 hard for me. Very tecnical
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", "mount", and "sudo blkid".
[20:53] <Jan\\> Jordan_U: it says      unrecognized option --boot-directory=/mnt
[20:54] <Jan\\> Jordan_U:   https://pastebin.com/bykww1mk
[20:55] <ALFA> mora carnagione scura formosa
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: Then you have accidentally installed grub-legacy. The package "grub" in Ubuntu is actually grub legacy and replaces grub2. grub2 is what you should be using.
[20:56] <Jan\\> ok
[20:56] <genii> !info grub
[20:56] <genii> Hm
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: sudo apt remove grub
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: sudo apt install grub-pc
[20:58] <Jan\\> i installed grub2
[20:58] <nacc> genii: it's been removed in 17.04 (apparently)
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: I'm still waiting for the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid".
[21:00] <glitchd> ok im pulling my hair out over here...how can i disable pinch to zoom?
[21:03] <PipeItToDevNull> glitchd, you may want to see if it is listed under a property of xinput for the device
[21:04] <Jan\\> ok I managed to boot into grub, how do I load the desktop ?
[21:04] <Jan\\> and auto load it and auto login
[21:05] <Jan\\> its the minimal bash grub
[21:05] <glitchd> PipeItToDevNull, not even sure how to do that..
[21:06] <PipeItToDevNull> glitchd, "xinput" then find your pointer device and run "xinput list-props <device ID>"
[21:08] <glitchd> PipeItToDevNull, theres is no listing for zoom in what it printed out
[21:08] <PipeItToDevNull> glitchd, Welp, that is all I got
[21:10] <glitchd> PipeItToDevNull, ok, thx for the help anyways
[21:10] <nacc> maybe synclient?
[21:10] <nacc> glitchd: --^
[21:10] <ericnoan> is launchpad.net the build system for official ubuntu packages?
[21:11] <PipeItToDevNull> glitchd, try holding "ctrl" and performing the gesture
[21:11] <nacc> ericnoan: yes
[21:24] <Volund> Ugh.
[21:24] <Volund> I finally got my line in working
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: You probably didn't run the correct grub-install command. Please post the output I requested (of "mount" and "sudo blkid").
[21:24] <Volund> BUT
[21:25] <Volund> there's this irritating buzz/static in the background. I don't get that when running Windows. I wonder how I can cut it out...
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: (You'll need to boot back into the LiveCD/USB to get that output).
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Jan\\: Importantly, --boot-directory= needs to point to the boot directory, not the root directory.
[21:32] <hafer> permission denied  with ssh login : https://bpaste.net/show/9f2f7fbfa895
[21:32] <hafer> any advice ?
[21:33] <nacc> hafer: did you restart sshd after allowing root login?
[21:33] <nacc> hafer: also, don't allow root login :)
[21:33] <hafer> nacc, yes manytime
[21:33] <nacc> hafer: `ssh -vvv` will help you see why, probably
[21:33] <hafer> nacc, just this is a test machine only
[21:34] <hafer> nacc, really couldnt see what is the issue with -vvv
[21:34] <nacc> hafer: pastebin it?
[21:35] <hafer> nacc, https://bpaste.net/show/0bb38f937f99
[21:35] <k1l> hafer: root got a password set? because that is not the standard on ubuntu.
[21:35] <ginseng0> ey
[21:36] <Squarism> is there a default textbased email client
[21:36] <Squarism> ?
[21:36] <hafer> k1l, yes I have been changed the password with passwd root
[21:36] <k1l> Squarism: you mean, one that is installed by default?
[21:37] <nacc> Squarism: not a default -- but there are many: pine, alpine, mutt, etc
[21:37] <giang> hi, tried sudo dd, usb startup disk and unetbootin, they have worked lots of time for creating a ubuntu boot usb
[21:37] <Squarism> k1l, yeah i guess so
[21:37] <nacc> hafer: it's odd that you are ssh'ing to localhost and your local and remote have different ssh versions
[21:37] <giang> but all of them failed today
[21:37] <Squarism> nacc, ok - thanks
[21:37] <giang> im using ubuntu budgie 16.10
[21:37] <k1l> giang: chec the md5sum of the iso
[21:38] <giang> i use torrent
[21:38] <hafer> nacc, I just sshing to the same ssh where you see different version ?
[21:38] <nacc> hafer: lines 17 and 18 of the paste?
[21:38] <ginseng0> Hi. Does anyone know why when I open .conf files in gedit, leafpad or anything else I try, the contents is always blank?
[21:38] <ginseng0> in lubuntu btw
[21:38] <nacc> ginseng0: what .conf files?
[21:38] <giang> actualy, its lubuntu
[21:38] <ginseng0> hold on ill try to get an example
[21:39] <hafer> nacc, is that the issue ?
[21:39] <giang> the iso file is ubuntu
[21:39] <giang> *the iso file is lubuntu
[21:39] <hafer> nacc, I using putty aloso doesn't work same error
[21:39] <nacc> hafer: it seems weird
[21:39] <nacc> hafer: oh you're not on ubuntu?
[21:39] <ginseng0> for example /home/<user>/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml nacc
[21:39] <nacc> hafer: i don't know why you'd use putty if you're on ubuntu
[21:39] <k1l> !md5sum | giang
[21:39] <hafer> nacc, I am on bash on ubuntu on windows 10
[21:39] <nacc> hafer: ah
[21:39] <nacc> !ubuwin | hafer
[21:40] <nacc> hafer: not true ubuntu, sorry
[21:40] <nacc> ginseng0: are you <user> ?
[21:40] <hafer> nacc, sorry this is the first time I know
[21:41] <nacc> !pm | ginseng0
[21:41] <nacc> ginseng0: also, answer the question i just asked?
[21:42] <giang> well, it's match
[21:42] <ginseng0> !pm nacc
[21:42] <hafer> nacc, no one on that channel
[21:42] <giang> may be my usb was broken ?
[21:42] <giang> how can i check if my usb is broken  ?
[21:44] <schander> giang: Try fdisk
[21:44] <ginseng0> so when I open this .conf at /home/<user>/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml, it shows a completely blank contents in both leafpad and gedit. Any reason why this could be happening? I've tried other system conf files before and same problem
[21:45] <k1l> ginseng0: does it work in nano?
[21:46] <ginseng0> ill try k1l, gimme a sec
[21:46] <ginseng0> k1l, it still doesn't work in nano. using sudo btw
[21:47] <k1l> ginseng0: and you know, that you need to replace the "<user>" with your actual user name on that system and that this user needs to be logged into openbox once?
[21:47] <ginseng0> I know ofc
[21:47] <ginseng0> the file opens fine, it's just blank when it shouldnt be
[21:47] <k1l> can you show "ls -al .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml"
[21:47] <k1l> ginseng0: opening a file that doesnt exist yet does open blank because the editor creates it.
[21:47] <ginseng0> 1sec k1l
[21:48] <k1l> ginseng0: and you should never use sudo on your own users home folder.
[21:48] <Jan\\> I reinstalled with networking and the grub issue seems to have been patched not I booted from HDD without issues
[21:48] <Jan\\> now*
[21:49] <k1l> ginseng0: looking at lubuntu the file should be named "~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml" anyway.
[21:49] <ginseng0> thank you k1l, I'm quite new and didn't realise there was a different name for lubuntu
[21:49] <k1l> ginseng0: "ls -al ~/.config/openbox/" that will list the config files
[21:50] <ginseng0> completely fixed ty :)
[21:51] <Kiicki> nacc it seems like everything is working now after I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 and updated everything. applied the driver and no errors yet. No screen tear. So I guess everything is working as good as it can. Still kinda stuttery/laggy compared to Windows 10 with this machine but good enough
[21:55] <nacc> Kiicki: ah ok, i'm sorry the downgrade path didn't quite work
[21:55] <ginseng0> nacc how are you so dedicated and patient?
[21:55] <nacc> hafer: still, impossible to support here
[21:56] <nacc> ginseng0: so you got it figured out with k1l's help?
[21:56] <ginseng0> it's fine now yeah
[21:56] <sopparus> anyone got a recommendation for a good 5ghz ac usb dongle?
[21:56] <sopparus> if possible not rtl8812au
[21:56] <nacc> sopparus: sort of offtopic
[21:56] <sopparus> nacc, if it was general sure, but for linux
[21:56] <nacc> sopparus: in that, the channel is geared around fixing issues with ubuntu
[21:56] <sopparus> my dongle is great on windows but sucks on linux
[21:57] <nacc> sopparus: and not linux generally
[21:57] <sopparus> well ok then
[21:57] <nacc> sopparus: i think there is a hardware channel
[21:57] <nacc> sopparus: and probably #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <ginseng0> holdon sopparus let me look at mine. what are you using it for? general or?
[21:58] <sopparus> ginseng0, yep
[21:59] <ginseng0> D-link DWA-127 is nice for general purpose and also pentest
[22:00] <sopparus> ginseng0, ok thanks. not ac but I guess i could survive without it. most important is that it works after all
[22:01] <ginseng0> yeah sopparus, it works completely ok out of the box without proprietary drivers
[22:01] <sopparus> too bad intel dont do usb wifi, their internal stuff seems good
[22:01] <ginseng0> yh
[22:03] <ginseng0> What's a way to enable custom kbrdshortcuts in lubuntu/LXDE to open Terminal?
[22:05] <giang> i checked with  sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sdb
[22:05] <giang> 0 error
[22:10] <insane_tesla> hi
[22:18] <insane_tesla> my desktop is looking like this
[22:18] <insane_tesla> http://imgur.com/FlHPXoC
[22:18] <insane_tesla> with text characters like if its morse
[22:19] <k1l> insane_tesla: did you do standby?
[22:19] <insane_tesla> it's a laptop
[22:21] <k1l> insane_tesla: did you use standby or hibernation? or is it that way right after booting?
[22:22] <insane_tesla> k1l: how is it called when you turn down the screen of the laptop and then the PC goes to sleep/hibernation?
[22:23] <k1l> that is standby/suspend2ram. there is also hibernation/suspend2disk.
[22:23] <k1l> insane_tesla: and yes both are known to make grafical issues like you have on some setups. this is why i asked if that is a clean fresh reboot or if you used standby
[22:24] <insane_tesla> but it doesn't happen every time
[22:28] <marty__> hello?
[22:33] <marty__> im trying to download genisoimage for 16.04 and im struggling to figure this out for some reason
[22:36] <majnoon> ok here what i did i direct eth wired 2 buntu boxes together (needed 2 different subnets 192.168.0.* and 192.168.1.* ) what WANT to do is have some kind of 'bridge' between 192.168.0.* subnet and 192.168.1* subnet  1.* connected to net through nat
[22:36] <fuzzyhorns> im using i3 and trying to get my mute button to work, using `bindsym XF86AudioMute exec amixer -q sset Master toggle` -- it'll mute, but if i press it again it won't unmute
[22:36] <fuzzyhorns> i have to manually turn the volume back up through amixer
[22:37] <fuzzyhorns> any thoughts on why this might be?
[22:37] <bivo> lost password recovery on 16.10 with an encrypted install wont work, tried mounting as writable as per the instructions here https://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password I put the new password in at the login prompt and the screen flashes black and returns to the login prompt with a blank text entry box, however inputting a random string into the password box shows the proper incorrect password notific
[22:39] <fuzzyhorns> https://superuser.com/questions/805525/why-is-unmute-not-working-with-amixer-command looks like it's this
[22:39] <nacc> !info genisoimage xenial | marty__
[22:39] <nacc> marty__: can you pastebin teh command and output?
[22:39] <majnoon> ok here what i did i direct eth wired 2 buntu boxes together (needed 2 different subnets 192.168.0.* and 192.168.1.* ) what WANT to do is have some kind of 'bridge' between 192.168.0.* subnet and 192.168.1* subnet  1.* connected to net through nat and 0.8 subnet is mixed windows and linux
[22:39] <marty__> 1sec
[22:40] <marty__> no i cant
[22:40] <nacc> marty__: you can't?
[22:42] <usuario> h
[22:43] <marty__> im still a little new on terms, i cannot download it from any where, it ( says ) already installed when i use sudo, and the software store says theres no such application,
[22:43] <marty__> yet its no where to be found on my system
[22:44] <marty__> even tho multiple links send me to the store where the app clearly is there
[22:46] <wafflejock> marty__, do, sudo apt update
[22:46] <wafflejock> marty__, then, sudo apt install genisoimage, should be fine
[22:47] <wafflejock> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=genisoimage&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all can use the packages site here to search the repos for a particular version and package name but if it's there it should be in your apt sources and so you should be able to install
[22:48] <wafflejock> ah bleh
[22:48] <wafflejock> sorry you said it says installed
[22:49] <wafflejock> marty__, run, dpkg -L genisoimage
[22:49] <wafflejock> marty__, dpkg -L will list all the files that came with the package and where they are, if you're looking for an executable it's generally placed in /usr/bin but not sure what it's called or why it wouldn't be there
[22:51] <marty__> thanks // working
[22:56] <marty__> ok
[22:57] <marty__> found it using dpkg but its saying the files are located in my documents folder, when clicked on literally nothing shows up in my documents folder
[22:58] <nacc> marty__: sounds like you 'downloaded' the package
[22:58] <nacc> marty__: rather than installing it
[22:59] <marty__> i do have a package labeld the genisoimage, i click it and takes me to software center where i click install and it installs but never shows up, and install never stays i can go right back to it and it asks to install
[23:00] <nacc> marty__: what are you using to install it?
[23:00] <nacc> marty__: what version of ubuntu and what gui tool?
[23:02] <nacc> marty__: also, do not use 'software centre' use the gnome software tool or apt on the terminal
[23:03] <marty__> im using 16.04 , i forget what gui im using im checking tho, the apt says its already installd
[23:03] <marty__> im not familar with gnome
[23:04] <nacc> marty__: can you pastebin `apt install genisoimage` output and `dpkg -L genisoimage` ?
[23:04] <nacc> !pastebin | marty__
[23:05] <marty__> k
[23:10] <boriseto> I know this isn't specifically an Ubuntu problem but wanted to ask just in case somebody knows something about it: Is there any guide how to update the BIOS when having only Ubuntu installed?
[23:10] <nacc> boriseto: fully depends on your vendor
[23:10] <nacc> boriseto: often it's not supported
[23:10] <boriseto> nacc: got it.
[23:11] <k1l> new mainboads can flash updates directly from a fat usb. old mainbaords may need a dos.-usb to run their updater
[23:12] <boriseto> k1l: Understod. I'll look into that.
[23:13] <genii> boriseto: If the bios update can be run from DOS, make a bootable FreeDOS USB stick and put it on there
[23:13] <hassan> hi
[23:14] <hassan> hi
[23:14] <hassan> all
[23:14] <boriseto> genii: got it. Will look into it as well, I bet there is some tutorial about it. Thanks.
[23:14] <frib> i am trying to install grub to a usb but it hangs on the following: Installing for i386-pc platform -- what can I Do? thanks
[23:15] <frib> uhp nevermind it finished all of a sudden! sorry!
[23:15] <genii> boriseto: No problem
[23:19] <majnoon> ok here what i did i direct eth wired 2 buntu boxes together (needed 2 different subnets 192.168.0.* and 192.168.1.* ) what WANT to do is have some kind of 'bridge' between 192.168.0.* subnet and 192.168.1* subnet  1.* connected to net through nat and 0.8 subnet is mixed windows and linux
[23:29] <rizonz> anyone creating a local mirror using ubumirror and only for amd64 ?
[23:31] <g-rider> hey guys, dumb question is the notion of kernel flavours still present for the 14 and 16 release train?
[23:31] <nacc> g-rider: what were kernel flavours?
[23:31] <g-rider> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/Flavours
[23:32] <nacc> g-rider: i see generic, lowlatency, virtual
[23:32] <nacc> g-rider: on 17.04 (and i think 16.04++
[23:32] <nacc> *16.04+
[23:32] <g-rider> need something for 14.04
[23:32] <g-rider> was looking for trusty
[23:32] <nacc> g-rider: those probably existed for 14.04 too
[23:32] <g-rider> specifically haswell instruction set optimized
[23:32] <nacc> g-rider: which flavour were you looking for?
[23:32] <nacc> g-rider: that doesn't exist anywhere
[23:33] <g-rider> 14.04LTS, haswell optimized but it might not exist
[23:33] <nacc> g-rider: none of the intel compatible ones were built for a specific cpu
[23:33] <g-rider> really trying not to have to compile cuz scale...
[23:33] <nacc> g-rider: i doubt you'd see that big of a difference where it would be worht the hassle
[23:33] <g-rider> ehh
[23:33] <g-rider> yeah in general no
[23:34] <g-rider> but I have some custom code that's using haswell instruction set that see's 10~15% benefit
[23:34] <nacc> g-rider: in any case, i think you misunderstood what the flavours for
[23:34] <g-rider> off the shelf stuff probably wouldn't matter
[23:34] <nacc> g-rider: in the kernel?
[23:34] <g-rider> I think that's my other take away. Flavours are architecture specific for a manufacturer
[23:34] <g-rider> they don't seem to go down the rabbit hole of each manufacturers architecture
[23:35] <nacc> g-rider: or for a use-case (e.g., cloud)
[23:35] <nacc> g-rider: no, taht would be insane and not useful
[23:35] <nacc> g-rider: you can still access archtiecture-specific instructions in your code
[23:35] <nacc> g-rider: or are you writing a kernel module?
[23:35] <g-rider> yeah I saw ec2 optimized
[23:36] <nacc> g-rider: can you answer the question?
[23:36] <g-rider> not writing any kernel modules.
[23:37] <nacc> g-rider: then you don't need a custom kernel, afaict
[23:37] <g-rider> trying to pull specific instruction set it calls
[23:37] <nacc> g-rider: just use the write compile-flags?
[23:37] <nacc> *right
[23:37] <nacc> g-rider: and/or assembly if you care about the instructions used
[23:37] <g-rider> yeah so maybe I'm misunderstanding something, when we make menuconfig and compile for a specific platform
[23:38] <g-rider> how does that change access to the instruction set from an application perspective
[23:38] <nacc> g-rider: that does tuning of the kernel
[23:38] <nacc> g-rider: it doesn't.
[23:38] <nacc> g-rider: the instruction set for applications is determined (broadly) by the compiler flags
[23:39] <g-rider> I guess this would be dependent on what the software is doing but I suppose you could gcc your app with the flags you care about to optimize only the code
[23:39] <g-rider> and see some benefit, maybe not the full benefit of the tuned kernel. that is of course if I'm understanding this correctly
[23:40] <nacc> g-rider: i seriously doubt you are that kernel dependent
[23:40] <nacc> g-rider: unless the instructions you care about are in a syscall that gets hyper-optimized by the .config setting
[23:40] <nacc> g-rider: but that's unlikely
[23:40] <g-rider> well I have some baseline data from the app guys
[23:40] <g-rider> that show the performance increase, which I too found hard to believe
[23:40] <Ben64> i think you're interpreting it incorrectly
[23:41] <g-rider> wanted to see if I had an easier way from an ops perspective to support, but I can dig into what the app is actually doing
[23:41] <nacc> g-rider: if they are seeing some change by changing their code -- i don't understand what that has to do with the kernel?
[23:41] <frib> i just accidentally formatted my boot partition. what should I do?
[23:41] <g-rider> nacc -- performance change was based on kernel recompile for haswell, no code change
[23:42] <g-rider> Ben64 -- What's the proper interpretation?
[23:42] <Ben64> well i can't see the data you're referring to, so who knows
[23:42] <nacc> g-rider: what .config option?
[23:43] <g-rider> Ben64 -- Agreed I don't have enough data to dive into the details, was looking for a quick win with the flavours.
[23:43] <g-rider> nacc -- standby
[23:44] <Ben64> g-rider: what you're suggesting isn't logical though
[23:44] <g-rider> Ben64 which suggestion in particular, that the code runs faster on a haswell optimized kernel, or the kernel flavours quesiton?
[23:44] <Ben64> "haswell optimized kernel"
[23:45] <frib> how can I restore my EFI partition that I accidentally deleted?
[23:46] <g-rider> Ben64 which specific assertion? that the app ran faster on the haswell optimized kernel or just the term 'haswell optimized kernel'
[23:46] <Ben64> that such a thing exists
[23:47] <g-rider> Ben64 oh shit that's bad on my part
[23:48] <g-rider> Ben64 I'm normally pretty good about verifying facts before I speak on them, but I took what the dev said at face value.
[23:51] <g-rider> and I'm looking at make menuconfig I don't see anything haswell oriented at all
[23:51] <nacc> g-rider: correct, hence why i asked
[23:51] <nacc> g-rider: sounds like some FUDdy devs :)
[23:51] <g-rider> man I miss IRC
[23:51] <g-rider> I don't know why I'm not on it more often
[23:58] <skinux> Is this the right channel for development?