[01:32] <InventorTechie> filyforasec did you try Unity Tweak Tool and then look under the extensions tab?
[14:25] <pchoo> jbicha: I notice there was recently some updates to the gdm/nvidia bug thread.  The discussion on the xorg -legacy dependency seems to suggest that adding it allows for nvidia drivers to be installed and used properly?  Have I followed that correctly?
[15:04] <jbicha> pchoo: yes, I believe that's all that's needed, do you want to try to see if that fixes the issue for you?
[15:05] <jbicha> the only reason I didn't add the dependendency to gnome-shell in 16.10 and 16.04 is because darkxst indicated that it caused a regression for him when he tested it
[15:06] <jbicha> Ubuntu's nvidia maintainer is fairly busy now and there's a lot of packages that would need to be updated to add that dependency to the nvidia-* packages directly
[15:38] <pchoo> jbicha: well, technically it has worked, in that I can now see gdm3, but unfortunately I am having some other issues. Nvidia persistence daemon is failing to start, and now when I log in I get a black screen and unresponsive laptop... Whoops! Time to revert haha
[15:41] <jbicha> is that issue caused by installing that package?
[15:42] <jbicha> gnome-shell currently Recommends xserver-xorg-legacy in Ubuntu 17.04 Beta
[15:42] <pchoo> jbicha: I'm not sure. Mostly because either jumped the gun and tried to install bumblebee at the same time, which was my bad. I'm trying to unpick that
[15:43] <pchoo> So I kinda messed up
[15:47] <pchoo> I also tried to install some Intel stuff, I think that might be causing other issues
[15:49] <pchoo> Ok, i've got my desktop working again
[15:50] <pchoo> the boot up appears to be slowed down by something bluetooth related timing out, and I think that's related to the intel stuff I installed
[15:50] <pchoo> but I have gdm3 booting Ok now, but i'm using the nouveau driver
[15:51] <jbicha> 16.10?
[15:52] <pchoo> 16.04
[15:59] <pchoo> Hmm, Ok, I've seemingly removed the intel graphics update tool, and now I'm getting a timeout on "starting wpa supplicant".  , and had a failure on starting some network manager service, I think, it flashed up quickly before it loaded gdm3
[16:00] <jbicha> journalctl sould let you see those error messages and more
[16:03] <pchoo> jbicha: thanks, although I'm not sure what I'm looking for
[16:12] <pchoo> jbicha: or anyone else who can help, since removing the nvidia and intel-graphics-update-tool stuff, I now have a 30s timeout on boot, and systemd-analyze blame points at NetworkManager-wait-online.service - any idea how I can diagnose this?
[16:18] <jbicha> I recommend you ask in a different channel, maybe #ubuntu-desktop or #ubuntu-devel to start with
[16:20] <pchoo> Ok, thanks, I'll check in with them tomorrow, work day is almost over now]
[16:29] <pchoo> jbicha: well, at the end of all of that, i've now got nvidia-375 and xserver-xorg-legacy both installed, and it's now letting me load gdm3 and boot into my desktop.  I'll be investigating the network stuff tomorrow, thanks for all your help!