[01:14] <jeslin> how to upgrade mate version, i use mate version 15.
[01:14] <jeslin> can someone to help me, please
[01:15] <jeslin> ouh i am give up with this connection
[01:15] <jeslin> no one can help me out here
[01:15] <jeslin> thanks everybodies
[01:15] <jeslin> bye
[01:55] <ordinateurs> hi every bady
[02:42] <dmiller309> Hi there, ordinateurs.
[05:26] <east_> lklk
[05:26] <east_> sure
[05:27] <east_> dank memes
[05:27] <east_> super dank memes
[05:31] <mate|95185> just did update and now network manager does not work at all after reboot
[05:32] <mate|95185> had to boot back into windows to find out what happened
[05:33] <mate|95185> any ideas
[07:32] <finexbeer> y
[07:49] <finexbeer> when they relic the Ubuntu mat 17.04??
[08:00] <vlt> Hello. Our Firefox on Ubuntu MATE 16.04 didn't render background-color for select menu options. Now, w/o having touched FF 51.01.1, it does and I'm trying to find out which of the packages I installed is responsible for that. http://termbin.com/bj1f  Any idea?
[08:02] <finexbeer> vlt, do you know when is redy the ubuntu 17.04?
[08:11] <Astro7467> @vlt updated or changed themes (MATE or FF)?
[08:13] <Astro7467> @finexbeer (quit?) you mean something more specific than 2017-04?
[08:28] <vlt> Astro7467: No, nobody changed their themes and it suddenly works for all users.
[08:29] <vlt> Astro7467: I suspect one of the recently installed packages (mplayer, ffmpeg, darktable).
[09:04] <sridhar_> hi
[09:04] <sridhar_> i need help to install skype for business
[09:04] <sridhar_> could you please tell me the instructions
[09:55] <lhtd> Hey, hello, I have a problem with partition tables.
[09:56] <lhtd> I have a secondary HD of 3Tb which has a partition table GPT (I deleted all partitions, and re-created the partition table)
[09:56] <lhtd> and 3 weeks later the partition table is broken again
[09:56] <lhtd> why would this happen ?
[09:57] <lhtd> this is the partition table scan:
[10:00] <Simooon> Hey, on the website it says ubuntu mate 64 bit is good for 3-gb and above, and 32 bit is good for 2 gb and above? How come there is a difference, and would it be advisable to install a 32 bit system on a 64 bit comp when it only has 2 gb of RAM?
[10:00] <Simooon> forgot to write "RAM" a couple of times, but I'm sure you understand :-)
[10:01] <lhtd> https://pastebin.com/wn7wXr1N
[10:02] <nomic> 64 bit = more address space
[10:02] <lhtd> Simooon, 64bit systems can handle more RAM, and they require a bit more for a small OS
[10:02] <nomic> = addresseable memory
[10:04] <lhtd> Simooon, if you want to install a 32 bit system in a 64 system it's doable. And could be advisable if some apps/programs you use run exclusively in 32 bit systems. Or if you don't know if your system is 32 or 64 bit
[10:05] <lhtd> +1 nomic
[10:05] <Simooon> I know how addressing works :-) Was just wondering why the recommendation for 64 bit OS was 150 % of the memory of a 32 bit system, it seems like a lot, and I really don't want to go with a 32 bit os unless I have to :-)
[10:06] <Simooon> the comp in question is definately 64 bit, but like I said only 2 gb of ram :-(
[10:06] <lhtd> if you have more than 3Gb of RAM go for 64, else go for 32. That's the safe option.
[10:07] <Simooon> okay, I think I will look into linux lite as well before I make a decision
[10:07] <Simooon> but thanks for all the advice
[10:07] <lhtd> try xubuntu
[10:07] <Simooon> heard that mate was lighter than xubuntu, but that might be on the processor side rather than the memory side?
[10:07] <lhtd> the requirements are smaller. or linux mint xfce
[10:08] <lhtd> maybe. I have ubuntu mate at work and linux mint xfce at home
[10:08] <lhtd> some people around have xfce. Which is one of the lightest window managers
[10:08] <lhtd> but deep down I love mate
[10:09] <lhtd> Simooon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/333795/what-are-the-system-requirements-for-each-flavour-of-ubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <Simooon> okay, I mainly use the regular ubuntu, but this is a temporary replacement computer for my mother, so I don't want to spend money upgrading it, but at the same time, I can't go with some obscure command line only system :-P
[10:09] <lhtd> those are not obscure command line stuff
[10:10] <Simooon> I know, I was just saying that I was looking for the lightest version that was not that :-)
[10:10] <Simooon> have used xfce myself, but that was years ago
[10:10] <lhtd> linux mint is more or less windows-like. the "start" button is on the same side as windows. My eldery neigbour is happy with it
[10:11] <Simooon> my mother used regular ubuntu like me, it's just that that computer broke down...
[10:11] <Simooon> so I'm looking for something similar :-)
[10:11] <lhtd> xubuntu is more or less the same, and it's quite colorful, so GUI users feel at home
[10:11] <Simooon> but lighter, but will probably go for xubuntu then
[10:11] <Simooon> again thanks for the advice :-)
[10:12] <lhtd> try them in a boot key, one or 2 days each, then ask her which she likes the most
[10:12] <lhtd> happy re-install day mate :-)
[10:12] <Simooon> meh, I'm taking a decision here, other wise she will just be too confused :-P
[10:13] <lhtd> well, try them yourself then
[10:13] <lhtd> making the usb boot keys is quite quick
[10:13] <Simooon> just used an hour shifting RAM back and forth between three computers, but they were unfortunately not compatible with the old comp :-(
[10:13] <Simooon> will try xfce first :-)
[10:14] <lhtd> enjoy
[10:14] <Simooon> linux light doesn't even have a channel :-/
[10:15] <Simooon> and thanks :-)
[11:08] <nutzer1> Hallo, ich benötige Rat zur Aktivierung eines Aldi Talk Web  sticks
[11:56] <maksio> so slow
[11:56] <maksio> some one respond
[11:56] <maksio> cr7
[12:09] <billo1963> hello from germany
[12:11] <billo1963> i have a little prob with kodi , since the last 3 updates from pearl mate  my kodi center doesnt start ...so what can i do?#
[12:11] <davide> Hi guys
[12:14] <anonymus> hola/hi
[12:17] <anonymus> ¿¿¿???
[13:48] <joem86> Hello everyone. Yesterday update manager upgraded my kernel to 4.8.0-44-generic. When I rebooted this morning my graphics were downgraded to software rendering, and my network interface was undetected. I rebooted and selected the previous kernel (4.8.0-42-generic) and everything seems to work as before. Did this happen to anyone else here?
[14:03] <joem86> After running update-manager again, the problem now seems to go away. I think it's because I only installed the kernel and not the kernel headers
[14:15] <alkisg> joem86: what's the output of `dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep ^ii` ?
[14:21] <joem86> @alkisg, http://termbin.com/m81f
[14:22] <alkisg> joem86: you do have linux-headers-generic there, so it pulls the latest headers automatically
[14:24] <joem86> cool. I'm not sure what happened yesterday then. I try not to do anything fancy with ubuntu these days. Hopefully it was just an anomaly.
[14:24] <alkisg> Maybe apt install was interrupted before it finished, and it continued next time...
[14:28] <Artemis3> joem86, that happens because some packages were updated while others didn't, when a new kernel comes not always the others do, you usually wait a bit (and make sure you use full/dist upgrade). In your case i suspect the proprietary drivers (nvidia if you use that) and firmware for the nic
[14:29] <Artemis3> or at the very least force a reinstall for nvidia so it runs dkms again etc.
[14:32] <joem86> Makes sense. I'm running an AMD A10 with the open source drivers. I figure there's a step in the upgrade manager that recompiles the driver with the latest kernel headers before instructing the user to reboot.
[14:37] <Artemis3> the kernel modules then
[14:38] <Artemis3> yes it should have been done automatically
[18:39] <cardboard-> Hello? Is anyone here?
[18:46] <Menzador> "HE'P ME! HE'P ME! HE'P ME!" /quit
[21:53] <guest-vw7x6w> join
[21:58] <DarkPsydeLord> XD
[23:06] <n000b> guzs how can i change the kezboard lazout_
[23:06] <n000b> it alwazs resets on login
[23:06] <n000b> thats extremelz annozing
[23:08] <n000b> do i really have to setup the keyboard every single time i login?
[23:15] <n000b> I did configure it during installation, then i configured it in mate, then even from console with sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[23:16] <n000b> it ALWAYS keeps falling back to english with makes me mad at mate
[23:16] <n000b> can i uninstall english layout somewhere?
[23:17] <n000b> does mate support other keyboard layouts than english?