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sam_wonghi04:40
diploMorning all08:23
MooDoomorning diplo how are you08:25
diploNot bad thanks MooDoo, yourself ?08:31
MooDoodiplo: getting more and more fed up as the day goes on [users] :)08:31
diploI feel that a little, no staff in, having to deal with users is sucking the life out of me, didn't finish work last night till 23:45 ( started at 8am  ) and back in at 8 thius morning08:35
diploHanging atm :( and stupid users making that harder08:35
foobarryworking late aint good for the soul08:36
foobarryhad an interview for promotion on fri08:38
davmor2Morning all08:43
diploNo it's not foobarry :)08:44
diploAny news / feelings on the interview ?08:45
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JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Lemon Chiffon Cake Day! 😃 🎂08:47
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHyB9KzQvs08:50
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:50
davmor2Oh a GTX1080 for a mere £489.9908:56
MooDoodavmor2: yup looking at one of those for a new pc build i'm going to do08:57
davmor2MooDoo: oh you get the ebuyer daily email too then :D08:58
foobarrydiplo: yes , soon :D09:37
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: I also play "fantasy PC". Got a spare £5k I can have? :-)09:53
* zmoylan-pi breaks out the monopoly money...10:00
MooDooTwistedLucidity: davmor2 I'm looking at 1080ti sli when I can :p11:18
davmor2MooDoo: Might want to hold out for a full ryzen stack ;)11:19
MooDoodavmor2: amd?  spit how very dare you11:19
davmor2MooDoo: look at the ryzen specs sometime seriously, it makes intel look like it has been sat on it's laurels11:20
zmoylan-piwell intel has been frantically trying to make an arm competitor i thought. totally different end of the market11:21
MooDoodavmor2: microsoft won't support it in windows 7, which is what a lot of people still use, they are forcing people to upgrade to windows 1011:21
Laney.111:22
davmor2MooDoo: they won't support anything that isn't on windows 10 now11:22
zmoylan-pithey'll drag their userbase to win10 wether they want it or not11:23
popeyali1234: it amuses me that your big image on zerostem.io shows a pi zero with no sd card :)11:59
zmoylan-pithey use the image to flush out the ocd folk? :-)12:00
diddledanI'm intrigued about ryzen tech getting into servers12:34
diddledanand yeah, I think because AMD made a misstep with bulldozer and scrapped everything to start anew a few years ago Intel got complacent about the lack of competition and so didn't push as hard as they could have12:35
xnoxbritish english is vile when used suicinicaly and to the dot.12:44
xnoxjust read the article 50 letter and it makes me sick.12:44
SuperMattWhat exactly is ryzen?12:44
davmor2SuperMatt: amd's new built from ground chipset12:45
SuperMattdoes it still follow the x86_64 instruction set (or whatever, I don't know)12:46
davmor2SuperMatt: yeap https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+1700X&id=296912:48
SuperMattso it's just a new processor model, rather than a whole new processor type, like arm12:49
davmor2SuperMatt: yeap12:50
SuperMattfine12:50
davmor2SuperMatt: they are doing arm chips too but for server12:50
directhexSuperMatt: ryzen is amd's latest amd64 model. it's the first model which can compete with intel's mid and high-end kit since athlon6413:48
directhexi mean, it's worse than intel's, but it's also less than half the price. that was also true before, but they only really had competition for i3 chips in the sub-£100 market13:49
directhexand nothing above there13:49
directhexthere just was no option for a high-end AMD PC13:49
directhexnow a high end AMD PC is £800 less than a high end Intel PC, for a 10-20% performance penalty13:49
AzelphurI have a ryzen chip \o/14:30
davmor2Azelphur: do you have a  board to plug it into ;)14:36
Azelphuryea I'm using it to talk to you now14:36
davmor2Azelphur: we'll expect a full review of it14:37
AzelphurIt works and it goes fast14:37
Azelphur</review>14:37
davmor2Azelphur: proper review, do you run any vm instances on it?14:38
Azelphurdavmor2: yea, and PCI passthrough14:38
davmor2Azelphur: how does that perform?14:39
AzelphurI have issues with stutturing, other uses have stated they've resolved it, but I have yet to spend much time on resolving it14:40
davmor2Azelphur: I'm thinking ryzen laptop when they become available :D14:40
Azelphurthat is, gaming inside a VM14:40
AzelphurI'm not insane VM usage isn't stuttery.14:40
davmor2Azelphur: which vm are you using out of interest14:41
Azelphurlibvirt/kvm/qemu14:42
davmor2Azelphur: ah cool14:47
Azelphurdavmor2: I bought a 1700 since apparently if you're overclocking, anything higher is pointless14:47
Azelphur1700 overclocks to 4.1 and performs identically to an 1800X14:48
davmor2and saves you some money too14:48
Azelphurindeed14:48
Azelphurgot my EK Supremacy HF ready to go, just gotta clean my radiator14:49
Azelphurthen I'll clock it up14:49
Azelphursnapped myself a 3d printer up too, the tevo tarantulas are on sale on AliExpress today15:55
Azelphur£200 for the version with the large bed, and auto leveling15:55
davmor2Azelphur: I've heard bad thing about those, Anet A8 is better and more reliable apparently15:57
Azelphurdavmor2: really? I've heard that they are quite good, I turned down the Anet A8 because it doesn't have auto leveling or a large bed15:58
davmor2Azelphur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYTWnqRzA_U this was the first about brittle parts there is another too that I'm trying to find16:02
Azelphurdavmor2: ah yea, I'm aware about the brittle parts, the solution is to just reprint all the acrylic parts16:06
Azelphurmy friend is printing them for me as we speak, so when the printer arrives, I will assemble it with good parts first time round.16:06
davmor2Azelphur: yeah there was never a part two though turns out he stripped it down to use for parts16:07
davmor2Azelphur: that might make it better then :)16:07
Azelphurdavmor2: yea, the description mentions that they've fixed all the problems and to watch a different review for a true opinion on it now16:07
Azelphurif you go to that linked review, he sings its praises.16:08
davmor2ah there you go16:08
Azelphurso yea, sounds promising basically :)16:08
AzelphurI've got a friend hand holding me through it all, owns 3 printers and works doing CAD, so he knows his stuff :)16:08
davmor2Azelphur: slic3r is awesome. openscad is awesome and pronterface as a printer interface :)16:09
Azelphurfun16:09
Azelphurnot sure what I'll use just yet, he's coming down and gonna help me assemble it when it arrives, and I'll go from there lol16:10
Azelphurthings, I will learn many of them :)16:10
davmor2you will cus the hell out of it at times and love it others as a heads up16:10
Azelphurhehe16:11
Azelphurdavmor2: seems like there's loads of upgrades you can do too which I like, it'll take the E3D V6 extruders for flexible filament16:11
Azelphurand it supports dual extruders too16:11
Azelphurso at some point, I'll probably buy an E3D v6, then I'll have dual extruders.16:11
davmor2Azelphur: E3D is the best but get the original not the cheap chinese knock offs they work but can jam easily16:12
Azelphurindeed16:12
davmor2Azelphur: if you are printing in pla use a part fan16:12
Azelphuryep, friend is printing me one :)16:12
davmor2Azelphur: try a single sided pcb instead of glass, not so fragile and holds the heat longer like http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/305x203mm-fibreglass-single-sided-pcb-board-wf41u16:15
davmor2does it have a heated bed even16:15
AzelphurI believe so16:16
davmor2loads of bits you can upgrade to make life easier16:16
AzelphurHeating plate temperature: 60-120°C (proper winter warming and summer appropriate cooling).16:16
Azelphuryep16:16
Azelphurhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/3D-Printer-Kits-TEVO-Tarantula-I3-Aluminium-Extrusion-3D-Printer-kit-3d-printing-2-Rolls-Filament/32610178152.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.b4zpHa has full specs :)16:16
AzelphurI think one of my first fun projects will be to print this, http://frederickvandenbosch.be/?p=1365 but with one extra button, and add a male USB connector. Pi Zero can run in USB client mode, so I can have it pretend to be a CDROM and use it to install OS's on things.16:20
davmor2Azelphur: I'm thinking of upgrading mine to a prusa16:20
Azelphurdavmor2: said friend has the prusa mk2 ordered :)16:20
davmor2Azelphur: oh rigid.ink for filament by the way it is awesome16:21
Azelphurdavmor2: he already recommended it to me, already ordered some with his referral link, he's using the fiver he got from referring me to print the parts to fix my printer up for me, haha16:21
davmor2Azelphur: they'll even send you a free sample16:21
davmor2Azelphur: you need to know these things :)16:22
Azelphurindeed :)16:22
davmor2Oh and get tools if it doesn't come with any16:22
Azelphuryea, he is preparing a shopping list of tools for me to buy lol16:23
ali1234popey: you can boot it over USB without an SD card17:13
ali1234https://8086.support/content/23/85/en/how-do-i-setup-usbboot-no-sd-cards-in-the-pi-zeros-for-the-cluster-hat.html17:22
ali1234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be_u500FJGU17:23
daftykinsgive us this day our daily kitten - https://www.dropbox.com/s/nidin32kco9f37h/IMG_20170329_172836.jpg?dl=019:32
diddledanomg, that clusterhat is awesome19:47
diddledanthe HMRC specification of P45 forms is specified with positions in micrometers: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/452108/p45-online0715.pdf20:31
zmoylan-pihenceforth post brexit it will be nanofeet20:32
daftykinsvogon edition20:34

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