[04:40] <sam_wong> hi
[08:23] <diplo> Morning all
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning diplo how are you
[08:31] <diplo> Not bad thanks MooDoo, yourself ?
[08:31] <MooDoo> diplo: getting more and more fed up as the day goes on [users] :)
[08:35] <diplo> I feel that a little, no staff in, having to deal with users is sucking the life out of me, didn't finish work last night till 23:45 ( started at 8am  ) and back in at 8 thius morning
[08:35] <diplo> Hanging atm :( and stupid users making that harder
[08:36] <foobarry> working late aint good for the soul
[08:38] <foobarry> had an interview for promotion on fri
[08:43] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:44] <diplo> No it's not foobarry :)
[08:45] <diplo> Any news / feelings on the interview ?
[08:47] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Lemon Chiffon Cake Day! 😃 🎂
[08:50] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHyB9KzQvs
[08:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:56] <davmor2> Oh a GTX1080 for a mere £489.99
[08:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: yup looking at one of those for a new pc build i'm going to do
[08:58] <davmor2> MooDoo: oh you get the ebuyer daily email too then :D
[09:37] <foobarry> diplo: yes , soon :D
[09:53] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: I also play "fantasy PC". Got a spare £5k I can have? :-)
[10:00]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the monopoly money...
[11:18] <MooDoo> TwistedLucidity: davmor2 I'm looking at 1080ti sli when I can :p
[11:19] <davmor2> MooDoo: Might want to hold out for a full ryzen stack ;)
[11:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: amd?  spit how very dare you
[11:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: look at the ryzen specs sometime seriously, it makes intel look like it has been sat on it's laurels
[11:21] <zmoylan-pi> well intel has been frantically trying to make an arm competitor i thought. totally different end of the market
[11:21] <MooDoo> davmor2: microsoft won't support it in windows 7, which is what a lot of people still use, they are forcing people to upgrade to windows 10
[11:22] <Laney> .1
[11:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: they won't support anything that isn't on windows 10 now
[11:23] <zmoylan-pi> they'll drag their userbase to win10 wether they want it or not
[11:59] <popey> ali1234: it amuses me that your big image on zerostem.io shows a pi zero with no sd card :)
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> they use the image to flush out the ocd folk? :-)
[12:34] <diddledan> I'm intrigued about ryzen tech getting into servers
[12:35] <diddledan> and yeah, I think because AMD made a misstep with bulldozer and scrapped everything to start anew a few years ago Intel got complacent about the lack of competition and so didn't push as hard as they could have
[12:44] <xnox> british english is vile when used suicinicaly and to the dot.
[12:44] <xnox> just read the article 50 letter and it makes me sick.
[12:44] <SuperMatt> What exactly is ryzen?
[12:45] <davmor2> SuperMatt: amd's new built from ground chipset
[12:46] <SuperMatt> does it still follow the x86_64 instruction set (or whatever, I don't know)
[12:48] <davmor2> SuperMatt: yeap https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+1700X&id=2969
[12:49] <SuperMatt> so it's just a new processor model, rather than a whole new processor type, like arm
[12:50] <davmor2> SuperMatt: yeap
[12:50] <SuperMatt> fine
[12:50] <davmor2> SuperMatt: they are doing arm chips too but for server
[13:48] <directhex> SuperMatt: ryzen is amd's latest amd64 model. it's the first model which can compete with intel's mid and high-end kit since athlon64
[13:49] <directhex> i mean, it's worse than intel's, but it's also less than half the price. that was also true before, but they only really had competition for i3 chips in the sub-£100 market
[13:49] <directhex> and nothing above there
[13:49] <directhex> there just was no option for a high-end AMD PC
[13:49] <directhex> now a high end AMD PC is £800 less than a high end Intel PC, for a 10-20% performance penalty
[14:30] <Azelphur> I have a ryzen chip \o/
[14:36] <davmor2> Azelphur: do you have a  board to plug it into ;)
[14:36] <Azelphur> yea I'm using it to talk to you now
[14:37] <davmor2> Azelphur: we'll expect a full review of it
[14:37] <Azelphur> It works and it goes fast
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[14:38] <davmor2> Azelphur: proper review, do you run any vm instances on it?
[14:38] <Azelphur> davmor2: yea, and PCI passthrough
[14:39] <davmor2> Azelphur: how does that perform?
[14:40] <Azelphur> I have issues with stutturing, other uses have stated they've resolved it, but I have yet to spend much time on resolving it
[14:40] <davmor2> Azelphur: I'm thinking ryzen laptop when they become available :D
[14:40] <Azelphur> that is, gaming inside a VM
[14:40] <Azelphur> I'm not insane VM usage isn't stuttery.
[14:41] <davmor2> Azelphur: which vm are you using out of interest
[14:42] <Azelphur> libvirt/kvm/qemu
[14:47] <davmor2> Azelphur: ah cool
[14:47] <Azelphur> davmor2: I bought a 1700 since apparently if you're overclocking, anything higher is pointless
[14:48] <Azelphur> 1700 overclocks to 4.1 and performs identically to an 1800X
[14:48] <davmor2> and saves you some money too
[14:48] <Azelphur> indeed
[14:49] <Azelphur> got my EK Supremacy HF ready to go, just gotta clean my radiator
[14:49] <Azelphur> then I'll clock it up
[15:55] <Azelphur> snapped myself a 3d printer up too, the tevo tarantulas are on sale on AliExpress today
[15:55] <Azelphur> £200 for the version with the large bed, and auto leveling
[15:57] <davmor2> Azelphur: I've heard bad thing about those, Anet A8 is better and more reliable apparently
[15:58] <Azelphur> davmor2: really? I've heard that they are quite good, I turned down the Anet A8 because it doesn't have auto leveling or a large bed
[16:02] <davmor2> Azelphur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYTWnqRzA_U this was the first about brittle parts there is another too that I'm trying to find
[16:06] <Azelphur> davmor2: ah yea, I'm aware about the brittle parts, the solution is to just reprint all the acrylic parts
[16:06] <Azelphur> my friend is printing them for me as we speak, so when the printer arrives, I will assemble it with good parts first time round.
[16:07] <davmor2> Azelphur: yeah there was never a part two though turns out he stripped it down to use for parts
[16:07] <davmor2> Azelphur: that might make it better then :)
[16:07] <Azelphur> davmor2: yea, the description mentions that they've fixed all the problems and to watch a different review for a true opinion on it now
[16:08] <Azelphur> if you go to that linked review, he sings its praises.
[16:08] <davmor2> ah there you go
[16:08] <Azelphur> so yea, sounds promising basically :)
[16:08] <Azelphur> I've got a friend hand holding me through it all, owns 3 printers and works doing CAD, so he knows his stuff :)
[16:09] <davmor2> Azelphur: slic3r is awesome. openscad is awesome and pronterface as a printer interface :)
[16:09] <Azelphur> fun
[16:10] <Azelphur> not sure what I'll use just yet, he's coming down and gonna help me assemble it when it arrives, and I'll go from there lol
[16:10] <Azelphur> things, I will learn many of them :)
[16:10] <davmor2> you will cus the hell out of it at times and love it others as a heads up
[16:11] <Azelphur> hehe
[16:11] <Azelphur> davmor2: seems like there's loads of upgrades you can do too which I like, it'll take the E3D V6 extruders for flexible filament
[16:11] <Azelphur> and it supports dual extruders too
[16:11] <Azelphur> so at some point, I'll probably buy an E3D v6, then I'll have dual extruders.
[16:12] <davmor2> Azelphur: E3D is the best but get the original not the cheap chinese knock offs they work but can jam easily
[16:12] <Azelphur> indeed
[16:12] <davmor2> Azelphur: if you are printing in pla use a part fan
[16:12] <Azelphur> yep, friend is printing me one :)
[16:15] <davmor2> Azelphur: try a single sided pcb instead of glass, not so fragile and holds the heat longer like http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/305x203mm-fibreglass-single-sided-pcb-board-wf41u
[16:15] <davmor2> does it have a heated bed even
[16:16] <Azelphur> I believe so
[16:16] <davmor2> loads of bits you can upgrade to make life easier
[16:16] <Azelphur> Heating plate temperature: 60-120°C (proper winter warming and summer appropriate cooling).
[16:16] <Azelphur> yep
[16:16] <Azelphur> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3D-Printer-Kits-TEVO-Tarantula-I3-Aluminium-Extrusion-3D-Printer-kit-3d-printing-2-Rolls-Filament/32610178152.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.b4zpHa has full specs :)
[16:20] <Azelphur> I think one of my first fun projects will be to print this, http://frederickvandenbosch.be/?p=1365 but with one extra button, and add a male USB connector. Pi Zero can run in USB client mode, so I can have it pretend to be a CDROM and use it to install OS's on things.
[16:20] <davmor2> Azelphur: I'm thinking of upgrading mine to a prusa
[16:20] <Azelphur> davmor2: said friend has the prusa mk2 ordered :)
[16:21] <davmor2> Azelphur: oh rigid.ink for filament by the way it is awesome
[16:21] <Azelphur> davmor2: he already recommended it to me, already ordered some with his referral link, he's using the fiver he got from referring me to print the parts to fix my printer up for me, haha
[16:21] <davmor2> Azelphur: they'll even send you a free sample
[16:22] <davmor2> Azelphur: you need to know these things :)
[16:22] <Azelphur> indeed :)
[16:22] <davmor2> Oh and get tools if it doesn't come with any
[16:23] <Azelphur> yea, he is preparing a shopping list of tools for me to buy lol
[17:13] <ali1234> popey: you can boot it over USB without an SD card
[17:22] <ali1234> https://8086.support/content/23/85/en/how-do-i-setup-usbboot-no-sd-cards-in-the-pi-zeros-for-the-cluster-hat.html
[17:23] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be_u500FJGU
[19:32] <daftykins> give us this day our daily kitten - https://www.dropbox.com/s/nidin32kco9f37h/IMG_20170329_172836.jpg?dl=0
[19:47] <diddledan> omg, that clusterhat is awesome
[20:31] <diddledan> the HMRC specification of P45 forms is specified with positions in micrometers: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/452108/p45-online0715.pdf
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> henceforth post brexit it will be nanofeet
[20:34] <daftykins> vogon edition