[00:01] <a7i3n> hello
[00:03] <Jonno_FTW> skinux: what kind of development?
[00:04] <frib> what should I do if I deleted my EFI partition? please help. thank you
[00:11] <hfp> Hi, I have a ThinkPad x230 running Ubuntu 16.10. I wanted to disable the touchpad so only the trackpoint is in use. I ran gconf-edit but couldn't find a touchpad in there. Then I rebooted, and now I have no keyboard or mouse at all in Ubuntu. I have keyboard in the BIOS, recovery console, and mouse + keyboard using a LiveUSB of 16.04. My disk i sencrypted but I can decrypt and chroot. How can I fix this? It
[00:11] <hfp> used to work well.
[00:17] <apm> close
[00:17] <apm> exit
[00:23] <nox_> hi
[00:23] <nox_> hi
[00:33] <Rakko> When a package contains a module source tarball in /usr/src, how am I supposed to go about building that module? Preferably making a .deb out of it.
[00:33] <Rakko> I used to know, years ago; but I don't really remember and all the ways of building modules on the web are making me feel in over my head
[00:36] <omenius> I'm trying to resize my partition as I extended my logical volume, but I'm getting confusing results with fdisk
[00:37] <omenius> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24271280/
[00:38] <omenius> maybe I should to the new partition to *-part1?
[00:39] <omenius> nah, "$ sudo fdisk /dev/mapper/omenius--vg-omenius0-part1" does not work either
[00:41] <omenius> I think it's the partition itself, so that's why *-part1 won't even open with fdisk
[00:51] <bivo> lost password recovery on 16.10 with an encrypted install wont work, tried mounting as writable as per the instructions here https://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password I put the new password in at the login prompt and the screen flashes black and returns to the login prompt with a blank text entry box, however inputting a random string into the password box shows the proper incorrect password notific
[00:52] <mangaka> hola
[00:52] <hsd> hello
[00:53] <wedgie> bivo: probably permissions on the key file. Make sure it is readable by the user you're trying to log in as
[00:53] <mangaka> speak spanish=
[00:53] <hsd> 这个软件怎么
[00:53] <hsd> 第一次使用
[00:54] <bazhang> !cn | hsd
[00:54] <bazhang> !es | mangaka
[00:54] <maddawg4> hey all i'm having a problem when i try to install anything or update... i keep getting an error in the terminal that my drive is full
[00:54] <maddawg4> but i'm really confused as to how that's possible
[00:55] <maddawg4> as it says there are over 800GB free
[00:55] <bazhang>  maddawg4 did you have some extra kernels in there that you could remove
[00:55] <maddawg4> not sure bazhang
[00:55] <maddawg4> how do i know?
[00:55] <wafflejock> ^^ try, sudo apt autoremove
[00:55] <wedgie> maddawg4: do you have a seperate /boot patition? it could be full
[00:55] <Rakko> When a package contains a module source tarball in /usr/src, how am I supposed to go about building that module? Preferably making a .deb out of it.
[00:55] <maddawg4> wedgie ah yea in df -h it does show a seperate boot partition
[00:55] <bazhang> maddawg4, try autoremove
[00:56] <wafflejock> maddawg4, if you can free up a few megs can, sudo apt install ncdu, then run sudo ncdu /, it will give you a tree of folders sorted by file size within them can drill in and find where the mystery space is
[00:56] <wafflejock> when in there can hit D to delete but be careful if running it as root
[00:57] <maddawg4> wedgie how do i browse to the boot partition
[00:57] <wedgie> cd /boot
[00:57] <maddawg4> i see just my root partition
[00:57] <wedgie> maddawg4: and as the others have said, you probably just need to remove a few old kernel versions
[00:57] <bazhang> use the package manager for that
[00:57] <maddawg4> yea i'm doig the autoremove right now
[00:57] <wedgie> keeping 1 or 2 old versions around is a good idea in case an update breaks something, but more than that is generally unnecessary
[00:58] <maddawg4> it'll free up 2GB
[00:58] <wedgie> 2 GB will fit a lot of kernels :P
[00:58] <maddawg4> actually it says 200MB i guess
[00:59] <maddawg4> the whole size of the /boot is like  452M
[00:59] <maddawg4> 472MB actually
[00:59] <maddawg4> then my / is 96TB
[01:00] <maddawg4> oh no that's my iscsi target
[01:00] <maddawg4> not my /
[01:01] <hfp> an I restore my system from a deja-dup backup on a fresh install? Or is it inteded only to restore lost file within the same install?
[01:01] <hfp> s/an/Can
[01:17] <Basketball> netbeans keeps crashing on me
[01:26] <jacobo> hello
[01:26] <Rakko> hi
[01:34] <newcoder> How can I see unicode character like u'26b5 in terminal? http://dpaste.com/35KRPTY
[01:36] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: press ctrl shift u, enter the hex code
[01:36] <Jonno_FTW> press enter
[01:36] <Jonno_FTW> ⚵
[01:38] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: You can't type hex code after ctrl+shift+u
[01:38] <Jonno_FTW> i just did...
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> i mean without the 0x
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> ctrl shift u 26b5 enter
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> not that hard
[01:39] <newcoder> Like 0x26B5
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> no
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> 26b5
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> only that
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> lower case with no -x
[01:39] <Jonno_FTW> 0x
[01:39] <minimec> newcoder: Works in gnome-terminal in combination with irssi... ?
[01:40] <newcoder> XML decimal entity: &#9909;
[01:40] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: ^
[01:40] <Jonno_FTW> 餉 you mean that?
[01:40] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: Didn't work
[01:41] <newcoder>  ctrl+shift+u then 26b5
[01:41] <Jonno_FTW> yes
[01:41] <newcoder> Doesnt' work, it doesnt' show anything
[01:41] <Jonno_FTW> it should put an underscored u after pressing ctrl shift u
[01:41] <newcoder> Yes
[01:41] <Jonno_FTW> then type the number
[01:42] <Jonno_FTW> then press enter
[01:42] <minimec> ctrl+shift+u+26b5 then enter
[01:42] <Jonno_FTW> you need to realse after pressing ctrl+shift+u to get the prompt
[01:42] <newcoder> ⚵
[01:42] <Jonno_FTW> release
[01:42] <newcoder> Got this unreadable character
[01:42] <newcoder> Like ?Z?
[01:43] <linelevel> Hello, the "Add a VPN connection..." option in the Network Manager (under "VPN Connections >") is grayed out, and this symptom persists across reboots. `network-manager-pptp` is already installed. Any suggestions?
[01:44] <TheBlues> "What base-point spacing should be used to insure that interpolation will be accurate to four decimal 4 places for any argument in the indicated range." How do I approach a problem like this?
[01:45] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: I can read that character
[01:45] <Jonno_FTW> perhaps you are using a different font in terminal
[01:45] <newcoder> That was UTF-16: 0x26B5 , utf16 , but UTF-8: 0xE2 0x9A 0xB5 , so how can I type 0xE2 0x9A 0xB5 ?
[01:45] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: ^
[01:46] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: please find the character on a lookup site and show me
[01:46] <implite> I could be control alt numpad and numbers
[01:46] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_Symbols
[01:47] <newcoder> How can I know the font of gnome-terminal?
[01:47] <Jonno_FTW> I used the non numpad numbers
[01:47] <Jonno_FTW> edit->preferences
[01:47] <newcoder> Which font do you use?
[01:47] <Jonno_FTW> I use osaka_unicode
[01:47] <Jonno_FTW> edit-> profile preferences*
[01:48] <minces> i need help
[01:49] <Jonno_FTW> minces: okay please ask your question
[01:49] <newcoder> osaka_unicode is not available from preference
[01:49] <Jonno_FTW> you might have to install it
[01:49] <newcoder> Any other unicode will work?
[01:49] <minces> My wifi only starts when I log in, how do I connect it without logging in? Only when you turn on the computer
[01:49] <Jonno_FTW> idk
[01:50] <Jonno_FTW> just search in apt for unicode font
[01:51] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: apt-cache search unicode?
[01:51] <Jonno_FTW> no
[01:51] <newcoder> How?
[01:51] <minces> And how do I start my pc without starting X?
[01:51] <Jonno_FTW> there is a bunch of font packages
[01:51] <Jonno_FTW> use synaptic
[01:51] <minces> Jonno_FTW,
[01:52] <minces> My wifi only starts when I log in, how do I connect it without logging in? Only when you turn on the computer
[01:52] <minces> And how do I start my pc without starting X?
[01:52] <Jonno_FTW> minces: you'd have to use grub, I'mnot sure
[01:52] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: What will be the keyword to search?
[01:52] <Jonno_FTW> font
[01:52] <minces> ;/
[01:53] <Jonno_FTW> you can always add a systemd entry to connect the wifi
[01:53] <minces> and wifi ?
[01:53] <minces> any idea ?
[01:54] <Jonno_FTW> idk
[01:57] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: https://github.com/edubkendo/.dotfiles/raw/master/.fonts/osaka.unicode.ttf
[01:58] <Jonno_FTW> I have no idea where i got it from originally
[01:59] <newcoder> I don't think, it's font related problem
[01:59] <Jonno_FTW> it's a nice font regardless
[02:00] <minimec> newcoder: I never changed my default fonts in Ubuntu, and I can type any unicode sign I want. You don't need to change your font.
[02:00] <newcoder> gedit shows unicode characters but not in terminal
[02:01] <newcoder> So I don't think, it's font related problem
[02:01] <newcoder>  Something not working in terminal
[02:03] <Jonno_FTW> are you using gnome terminal?
[02:04] <Rakko> When a package contains a module source tarball in /usr/src, how am I supposed to go about building that module? Preferably making a .deb out of it.
[02:04] <newcoder> gnome-terminal
[02:06] <minimec> Rakko: 'sudo apt install checkinstall'. Then the normal compiling stuff with one difference... './configure' 'make' 'sudo checkinstall'
[02:07] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: do you get a box instead of a star with a bar beneath it?
[02:14] <newcoder> Jonno_FTW: Can you output echo $TERM?
[02:15] <oneskres> hi. I just installed Ubuntu. and I don't like nouveau. so I changed to nVidia. but now, when I reboot, it goes black screen. when I go to recovery mode, then resume boot as normal, it works normal. how can fixing?
[02:15] <minimec> newcoder: In my gnome-terminal... xterm-256color
[02:16] <Jonno_FTW> newcoder: it says xterm
[02:17] <Rakko> http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html <- there was a subdomain ebay.sun.com?
[02:17] <minimec> oneskres: You need to change one line in /etc/default/grub... 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"'. Afterwards do 'sudo update-grub' in the terminal.
[02:17] <Rakko> oops, wrong channel
[02:17] <oneskres> thank you, I will try!
[02:18] <Rakko> minimec: I know about checkinstall; that's not what I'm talking about.
[02:18] <minimec> oneskres: I have a gtx1060 and had the same problem...
[02:18] <newcoder> minimec: Where did you set xterm-256color?
[02:18] <Rakko> Back in the early-to-mid-2000s, before I left Linux for a few years, I knew exactly what I needed to do to compile a module *source* that came in a Debian package, and create a *binary* package from it. That's what I'm trying to rediscover.
[02:19] <minimec> newcoder: Default settings... Never did any change...
[02:20] <Rakko> I mean, checkinstall might do what I want, but it isn't the specific avenue I'm thinking of.
[02:20] <Rakko> As it is, I just have this module tarball, which unpacks into a modules/ directory, and I have no idea how to even build it.
[02:22] <oneskres> @minimec hi.. it didn't work. the same thing happened, and monitor says "no signal."
[02:23] <oneskres> I have nVidia GeForce gtx 650
[02:23] <minimec> oneskres: Did you 'sudo update-grub'? The line should work. I use it here and had the exact same problem as you describe...
[02:24] <oneskres> oh.. I didn't
[02:24] <oneskres> I try now
[02:25] <oneskres> it worked! thanks so much!
[02:26] <minimec> oneskres: ;)
[02:29] <bubbely> what can i put after lsmod to pause the screen as it fills to the bottom with the otpion to press a buttom to go to the next screen
[02:30] <Spec> bubbely: | more
[02:31] <Rakko> less is better :)
[02:31] <fabio_> hola
[02:33] <bivo> wedgie I have tried that as well, still no joy
[02:40] <Rakko> ok, https://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official is helpful
[02:41] <Rakko> and make-kpkg is what I *used* to use
[02:48] <MasterScript> hi i have install buntu 16.04. I cant ssh to my server. always Access denied
[02:48] <Jonno_FTW> MasterScript: perhaps you need ssh
[02:48] <Jonno_FTW> i mean ssl-cert
[02:49] <MasterScript> how?
[02:49] <Jonno_FTW> maybe you also need to specify the username too
[02:49] <Jonno_FTW> try that firstr
[02:49] <MasterScript> i can login my remote KVM
[02:49] <MasterScript> but cant with putty
[02:50] <MasterScript> how ?
[02:54] <adam_> hi
[02:54] <zenguy> hi do i need multicast and can i block it in ufw?
[02:54] <adam_> I have no idea
[02:54] <zenguy> for just an average desktop pc running ubuntu, no servers or anything
[02:58] <gzhechu> hi, today I upgrade my ubuntu 16.04, as usual before, but it report 'cups-daemon' was broken, and 'apt-get -f install' can not fix it, what can I do next? thank you.
[02:59] <minimec> gzhechu: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cups' maybe?
[03:01] <wastrel> MasterScript: sudo apt install openssh-server
[03:01] <gzhechu> minimec,  I will try.
[03:03] <gajasurve> how to know which sql is running??? any WHICH command?
[03:03] <gzhechu> when I reinstall cpus, it reports: "cups : Depends: libcups2 (= 2.1.3-4) but 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2 is to be installed", what does this means.
[03:07] <wastrel> gajasurve: service mysqld status   ?
[03:07] <minimec> gzhechu: Looks that there has been an update. My version here is also 2.1.3.4ubuntu0.2
[03:08] <gzhechu> I checked my system, the version 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2 has already installed.
[03:08] <gajasurve> I mean how can i check which DB is installed.. like mysql or mongodb or maria or someother else.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> !info libcups2 xenial | gzhechu
[03:16] <Bashing-om> gzhechu: ^^ What shows ' apt-cache policy libcups2 ' for the origin ?
[03:18] <gzhechu> ha, I fixed this problem by manually download 'cups-daemon_2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb' from https://launchpad.net, and then install it by "dpkg -i" in command line. thanks gentleman! thank you for your kindly help.
[03:19] <Verity> will ubutnu spy on me
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Verity, no.
[03:19] <Verity> and what will it be like coming from windows or arch linux
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Verity, it will be different than windows.
[03:20] <Verity> will I be able to use the software I really need, like mc8051lide, cutecom, kdevelop, plasa, and codelite?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> Verity, you will be able to use linux software on ubuntu.
[03:20] <gzhechu> Verity, it's totally different experience with Windows. but very simular with freebsd or other unix like system.
[03:21] <gajasurve> sorry to ask this here... but can someone help me with seeing only meesages here?? like no "joined"  '''quit' Stuff?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | gajasurve will silence those
[03:25] <uxfi> good evening
[03:25] <kj4> hello
[03:26] <uxfi> hello
[03:26] <cfhowlett> uxfi, welcome to ubuntu support.  ask your support question or jibberjabber over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <uxfi> heh
[03:27] <uxfi> thanks
[03:39] <xiaolu> hi
[03:41] <yu_> hello
[03:41] <linux1> NIMB
[03:46] <wang_> hello
[03:46] <wang_> where are you from?
[03:47] <wang_> i am from china.
[03:47] <cfhowlett> wang_, welcome to ubuntu support.  ask **support** questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <yu_> hello
[03:47] <wang_> hello
[03:48] <wang_> where are you from?
[03:48] <yu_> No body here?
[03:48] <adrianzr1> Mexico
[03:48] <yu_> wow
[03:48] <wang_> wo
[03:48] <cfhowlett> wang, yu,  this is NOT  a chat channel.  discuss ubuntu support here or go elsewhere for chat
[03:48] <yu_> I'am come from china
[03:48] <wang_> that's cool
[03:49] <wang_> oh ,sorry
[03:49] <gajasurve> how can i check which DB is installed.. like mysql or mongodb or maria or someother else.
[03:49] <gajasurve> which sql?
[03:52] <Guest236> hello
[03:52] <sada> www
[04:14] <Didact69> I'm trying to get the gnome remot control to work on 16 LTS and can't get the thing to work, gave up about 6 months ago and stayed on fedora... the server is my internet gateway so I can't keep it down for long
[04:15] <Didact69> as I recal it worked in 14.04
[04:16] <krit_> yo
[04:17] <Didact69> yo
[04:17] <krit_> yo
[04:22] <Didact69> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/07/remote-access-ubuntu-16-04/  this is what I want to do, was it broken b4 ?
[04:31] <betommin> exit
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> fleskil: did you solve your issue yesterday?
[05:19] <Didact69> hi there, I'll work on mine tomorrow in about 9 - 12 hours
[05:22] <conmaxo>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.8.0-44-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 500MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.4GiB, 80.5% free ** Disk: Total: 454.9GiB, 90.6% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Sky Lake Integrated Graphics ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I219-V ** Uptime: 3h 7m 32s **
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> conmaxo: not here please
[05:23] <conmaxo> oh sory, i misclicking
[06:11] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hello everyone,
[06:12] <smellsLikeGoatSp> I was wondering what the difference is between installing xboxdrv and ubuntu-xbox driver on Ubuntu, the main difference I can see is to do with mapping and the lack of jstest-gtk on the former. I like the possibility to map keys given by ubuntu-xboxdrv and I am not sure it is going to be as intuitive using xboxdrv instead
[06:21] <DanerenKrille> sup
[06:27] <Didact69> hi
[06:35] <Duosora> Hello! How can I run Instagram on Ubuntu to upload photos from a PC? Thank you!
[06:36] <OlofL> http://imgur.com/a/TpbS2 why are some of my icons not available or all black? ubuntu 16.10...
[06:36] <baizon> Duosora: isnt instagram a website? Use a Webbrowser then
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Duosora, ramme is an out of repo option: http://www.linuxslaves.com/2016/10/install-ramme-instagram-desktop-app-for-linux.html
[06:38] <OlofL> Duosora: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/meet-ramme-free-open-source-instagram-desktop-app
[06:38] <baizon> ou ok, sorry then
[06:40] <Duosora> ....
[06:40] <Duosora> "As per Instagram’s own API restrictions, you cannot photo uploads in Ramme (yet)."
[06:43] <cfhowlett> Duosora, install chrome / chromium.  install the google-chrome-apk + instagram  https://github.com/vladikoff/chromeos-apk
[06:44] <Duosora> instagram won't work with chrome apk
[06:44] <Duosora> it threw me an error when i tried to insert an apk of instagram
[06:45] <cfhowlett> Duosora, then it's time to contact instagram and demand a linux-native solution
[06:46] <cfhowlett> http://askubuntu.com/questions/567663/posting-to-instagram-from-ubuntu
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch has an instagram app
[06:50] <somsip> !find systemd-logind
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> Duosora: apt-cache showing 2 python clients for instagram api, usefull?
[06:53] <Duosora> lotuspsychje: which ones?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !info python3-instagram | Duosora
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> Duosora: didnt test myself..
[06:56] <ducasse> isn't that just python integration for writing your own code?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah could be
[06:57] <lunarius> what up
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> lunarius: you joined the ubuntu support channel
[06:57] <cfhowlett> lunarius, ubuntu support here.  chitchat/jibberjabber in #ubnuntu-offtopic
[07:10] <Snowie> Hi all. Is instruction here for creating a persistent live usb still valid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:10] <Snowie> If I simply use Startup Disk Creator on 16.04, will it be persistent?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> no, Snowie
[07:12] <chorizo> buenas tardes
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !es | chorizo
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !es | chorizo
[07:13] <Snowie> cfhowlett: I'm assuming that's an answer to both questions. Does ubuntu support creating a live usb and are their instructions anywhere? I always look for ubuntu recommended methods first, so I was surprised there wasn't something more up to date that covered it
[07:13] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: welcome, how can we help you?
[07:13] <chorizo> omg
[07:14] <cfhowlett> Snowie, startup disk creator will create a live USB without persistence.  you can create persistence with post creation
[07:14] <chorizo> i want potatoes
[07:14]  * alucardromero-d3 gives chorizo potatoes
[07:14] <Snowie> cfhowlett: thanks, any quide on that?
[07:14] <chorizo> yes pls
[07:14] <cfhowlett> chorizo, the topic here is ubuntu support. jibberjabber/chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <chorizo> ah ok sry
[07:14] <cfhowlett> !persistence | Snowie is the go to link
[07:14] <deowna> hi
[07:15] <cfhowlett> Snowie, ah, I see.  wait 1
[07:15] <deowna> i need a partner to work on a project with me
[07:15] <cfhowlett> Snowie, yep you can use that link : method 3
[07:15] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: no how can I help others maybe
[07:15] <sebsebseb> more like it!
[07:16] <Snowie> the original link i sent you?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> Snowie, yep
[07:16] <Snowie> cfhowlett: this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:16] <Snowie> cfhowlett: thanks, will do :)
[07:16] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:16] <sebsebseb> !k
[07:16] <deowna> hi
[07:16] <sebsebseb> downna
[07:16] <sebsebseb> !ot
[07:21] <el> hi, i got a really bad issue/problem with my 16.04 working machine. os itself is on an SSD which boots properly, all data was on a raid device (i am still assuming it is/was a raid1). If i now try to boot the system it seems like 1 of the 2 raid drives is gone/dead which stops the entire boot process and throws me to maintancne console. As a next step i removed the md from /etc/fstab which results in a properly booting system. And now come
[07:21] <marko991> is it safe to use pale moon instead of firefox ?
[07:22] <el> checking /proc/mdstat shows an array shows an inactive raid device md0 but without the U_ which i was expecting (broken drive is removed)
[07:22] <el> mdadm --detail /dev/md0 shows a raid0 (instead of raid1) with 1 device
[07:22] <el> gnome-disk shows a raid-1
[07:23] <el> this entire situation is heavily confusing me as this point as i am 99,99% sure it is / was a raid1 - which should now be just degraded
[07:23] <M_> hello
[07:24] <el> any ideas why mdadm shows a different raid level then gnome-disk?
[07:25] <M_> What are you talking about
[07:25] <cfhowlett> M_, topic here = ubuntu support.  chitchat/jibberjabber >>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:26] <selckin> el: you could have multiple mdadm metadata's on the disk in the differend versions
[07:26] <selckin> el: be carefull rebuilding with the wrong version will lose your data
[07:26] <vlt> Hello. We were affected by Mozilla Firefox's bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=910022 and our Firefox didn't render background colors of slect menu options. Now something weird happened: I got several thank you mails for bringing colors back but didn't update firefox. It's still held on 51.0.1.  But I installed a few other packages: darktable, ffmpeg, mplayer. Here's a diff of two machines with
[07:26] <el> sudo mdadm --msic -E /dev/sdb1 (the ramaining raid disk) shows a raid1 which 2 devices - which is the expected raid type
[07:26] <vlt> working and not woring colors: http://termbin.com/bj1f
[07:27] <vlt> Any idea what happened?
[07:27] <el> selckin: yes i am aware of the danger in this situation. I am now wondering what to do.
[07:27] <el> selckin: one option is adding a new empty disk to the md device and see what happens - but this feels dangerous too
[07:29] <Snowie> cfhowlett: all of these instructions seem horribly out of date. I think the blocker here is it asks to create a partition called caspar-rw, but if i look at the contents of a ubuntu 16.04 created with startup disk, it doesn't even have that file any longer, just a folder called caspar.
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Snowie, yep, and update sounds in order.
[07:30] <el> selckin: do you know by chance a way to mount a single raid disk manually to see the data the disk contains?
[07:31] <selckin> el: i've lost all my data twice, so i'm not going to give any action advice :) #mdadm has some good ppl, but they can take a long time to respond sometimes
[07:32] <Snowie> cfhowlett: I have found this post, what do you think of this as the default method for 16.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/772744/how-to-make-a-live-usb-persistent
[07:33] <Snowie> cfhowlett: about time i gave something back to ubuntu to, so maybe I could try to get an updated version of that page out. Where would i start with that?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> Snowie, write it up, advise the mods that you have done so and you would like to redirect the current !persistent irc factoid to the refreshed page
[07:34] <cfhowlett> i.e. edit the wiki or copy the current wiki, make a new one with the corrections
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Snowie, regarding that link you sent, you might find a few eyebrows raised at sending users to a ppa instead of the default Usb-startup-disk-creator
[07:40] <vlt> Could libcolord-gtk1 be responsible for rendering a CSS styled background-color of an element in Firefox?
[07:43] <finexbeer> maybe
[07:43] <ikevin> vlt, you maybe have reply in mozilla IRC
[07:46] <finexbeer> who can i cancel the cache from my pc??
[07:46] <cfhowlett> errrr, you mean How? perhaps finexbeer ?
[07:46] <finexbeer> yes
[07:47] <finexbeer> how can I cancel the cache from my pc
[07:47] <cfhowlett> finexbeer, sudo apt clean
[07:47] <finexbeer> thanks
[07:48] <Snowie> cfhowlett: yeah, i figured ppa wasn't ideal. this tool is definately rough around the edges too but did the job in pretty good time, and alot of work has been put into it. Not ready for Ubuntu Desktop prime time though.
[07:48] <Snowie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Snowie, my very personal preference would be to use the command in option > make the USB with startup-disk-creator then cli to add persistence
[07:50] <Snowie> cfhowlett: I agree, well, depending on just how difficult that is, but with only outdated info and not being entirely familiar I wouldn't know where to start
[07:50] <finexbeer> when they relic the ubuntu 17.04??
[07:51] <Snowie> I would just be tinkering til i hit something that worked for me, but couldn't know if that was the right answer
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Snowie, if the only diff is casper rather than casper-rw ... I'm not in a position to test this at the moment
[07:52] <Snowie> cfhowlett: I might pick it up and play around and see if I can find a reliable method and WI i'll check it here and then write it up to update/merge alot of the info i did find.
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Snowie,  you, sir, are a prince amongst men!
[07:55] <Snowie> cfhowlett: haha, thanks, and I'm definately gunna have to pick it up now, because the mkusb one wouldn't boot, lol
[07:55] <cfhowlett> Snowie, time to do testing - for science!
[07:56] <Snowie> cfhowlett: ok, first method, just make with startup disk creator, then with the empty space, create ext2 partition called 'caspar-rw' and see how we go.
[08:01] <glitchd> PipeItToDevNull, busy?
[08:04] <azx> when i try to extract a group of rar archives using archieve manager, i get "invalid PPM sequence" error
[08:04] <azx> why? on windows using winrar it works fine
[08:05] <damiano> hello guys i am using a dell inspiron laptop and i am having problem with the window.. please take a look at this image http://imgur.com/a/PaLjU
[08:05] <damiano> are you can see the borders of the windows are very strange
[08:06] <damiano> what can it be?
[08:09] <Snowie> damiano: having the same issue at the moment, so i'll be keeping an eye on your resolution. Havn't bothered fixing it yet
[08:12] <damiano> Snowie, should i change the resolution?
[08:12] <damiano> i also have to change the contrast but using xgamma does not affect anything :(
[08:13] <Snowie> damiano: Not sure. I have the same problem on my 16.04 desktop, not quite as bad as yours. I had assumed it was my theme and i havn't started troubleshooting it yet, so I don't know of any causes or fixes sorry. Just letting you know your not alone
[08:13] <damiano> grrr
[08:13] <damiano> Snowie, i also need to change the contrast
[08:13] <damiano> how can i do?
[08:14] <Blueking> what are command to see what's active linux image ?
[08:18] <ikevin> Blueking, uname -a
[08:18] <Blueking> ah that it was :)
[08:20] <Blueking> ikevin  TY :)
[08:21] <Blueking> wish I could increase /boot partition :/
[08:22] <Blueking> some told me I can move pretty much from /boot/efi to /boot ?
[08:23] <damiano> Snowie, are you here?
[08:24] <damiano> noueveu graphic driver seems to fix the problem
[08:25] <Akishona> hi guys! short question: are someone here using ssd disks in your pcs?
[08:25] <wewlad> hello. I have sound not working on ubuntu.
[08:27] <Akishona> if so,  do you have swap partition on it? is it recommended to have a swap partition on ssd >
[08:28] <ikevin> Akishona, i use ssd and don't use swap on it
[08:28] <wewlad> it looks like the problem is in pulseaudio wrongly defining what port I plug the jack in
[08:28] <wewlad> because I am plugging into front panel socket
[08:28] <ikevin> Akishona, recommended, yes and no, if you want a fast swap then yes, if you want to save your sdd then no
[08:29] <wewlad> and it doesn't show up in the list of output devices
[08:29] <Akishona> ikevin: i see
[08:29] <wewlad> yet I've managed to trick it once by plugging the headphones into back panel first
[08:29] <Akishona> ikevin: thank you for the answer
[08:29] <ikevin> you welcome
[08:30] <wewlad> welp, nevermind
[08:30] <wewlad> it now detects that correctly, sound works
[08:30] <wewlad> problem solved, thank you
[08:30] <Akishona> any advice on the brand?
[08:30] <ducasse> Akishona: new ssd drives are not as vulnerable as the old generations. how much memory does your pc have?
[08:31] <Akishona> ducasse: 3GB ram
[08:31] <damiano> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/a11y-contrast.html
[08:31] <damiano> should i reboot after this?
[08:31] <gajasurve> any idea how i can find which database is installed in ubuntu? i wanna know which one is currently in use.. like sql mysql mariadb or mongodb
[08:32] <Akishona> it's a old laptop
[08:32] <ducasse> Akishona: in that case you might expect to use swap now and then, which wears the ssd down. a modern ssd is still expected to outlast hdd drives.
[08:33] <azx> when i double click an iso, it will mount it and open it in a folder
[08:33] <azx> how do i mount it in command line?
[08:34] <niggard> sup, boontoo
[08:34] <niggard> I've got a zombie process that refuses to die, what do I do with it?
[08:34] <hateball> azx: mount -t loop file.iso ~/somedir
[08:34] <Akishona> ducasse: yes. thats why i asked
[08:34] <hateball> azx: sorry, it's mount -o, not mount -t
[08:35] <hateball> fat fingers
[08:35] <algorys> Hello #ubuntu :)
[08:35] <Akishona> i guess i will have to put some additional ram in order to give up to swap partition
[08:35] <ducasse> Akishona: we can't tell you what is right for you. i swap to one of my ssds and don't worry much about it.
[08:35] <algorys> I want to know if someone has problem to update this morning ? on  fr.archive.ubuntu.com (194.158.119.190) ?
[08:36] <Akishona> ducasse: of course. just asking for figure out what to do
 fat fingers <== very fat fingers ! lol
[08:37] <Blueking> this are setup now  sda1  512MB  type part  /boot/efi ,   sda2  244MB type part /boot    /boot/efi  always been at 1%  (not beeing used?)  and /boot fills up fast with linux updates/images  I want to reduce size of /boot/efi to increase /boot    are this doable ?   how ?
[08:41] <hateball> ikevin: fat brain is probably more accurate :)
[08:42] <damiano> pardon guys i see nothing change using xcalib
[08:42] <damiano> is not the correct way to set the contrst ?
[08:46] <algorys> it seems  fr.archive.ubuntu.com (194.158.119.190) is down :(
[08:47] <k1l_> algorys: then change mirrors in the systen settings
[08:47] <algorys> k1l_: I put us.archive.ubuntu.com instead ?
[08:48] <k1l_> algorys: you can use the system settings > software and updates. it has a meu for changing the mirrors easily
[08:48] <ikevin> http://bouyguestelecom.ubuntu.lafibre.info/ubuntu/ seems down to
[08:49] <algorys> ikevin: yes
[08:49] <ikevin> oh, this is the same server :x
[08:50] <Blueking> resize2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda1
[08:50] <Blueking> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[08:50] <Blueking> uhm...  bad magic number  .. uh..
[08:51] <EriC^^> Blueking: what are you trying to do?
[08:51] <Blueking> reduce size of /boot/efi
[08:52] <EriC^^> why?
[08:52] <Blueking> I need to move to /boot
[08:53] <EriC^^> why?
[08:53] <EriC^^> why make a separate /boot?
[08:53] <algorys> ok, I change to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and tht's done :)
[08:53] <ikevin> moving /boot/efi/* to /boot maybe broke your system
[08:53] <Blueking> now /boot/efi  511MB  always always always at 1%    /boot 244MB fills up fast ..
[08:54] <Blueking> not moving files...
[08:54] <EriC^^> Blueking: oh ok, why do you have 244mb /boot ? is it lvm?
[08:54] <k1l_> /boot should clean old kernels when running apt autoremove
[08:54] <Simooon> everytime I put my computer into standby and start it up again, when I try to move the windows or right click there is a colourful glitchy looking border coming out from the window, and it is like that until I restart. Anyone know what that is about or how to fix it? (16.04 btw
[08:54] <Blueking> but reduce /boot/efi partition and  use free space to increase /boot partition
[08:54] <Simooon> )
[08:55] <k1l_> Simooon: that is a known issue for some video drivers. but i dont know if there is workaround or fix for that.
[08:55] <ducasse> Blueking: you can't resize the efi partition with resize2fs, because it's fat32
[08:55] <Blueking> k1l_ apt autoremove doesn't remove old kernels  need to use purge for that
[08:55] <Simooon> k1l_, okay, do you know if it is gone in the newer releases?
[08:55] <k1l_> Blueking: it does. what ubuntu are you using exactly?
[08:56] <Blueking> ubuntu 16.04
[08:56] <k1l_> so apt autoremove works
[08:56] <Blueking> it seems system keep 4 image versions
[08:57] <k1l_> no it doesnt. it keeps the most recent 2 kernels.
[08:57] <k1l_> except you changed stuff manually.
[08:57] <Blueking> I havn't
[08:57] <Blueking> tho upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 if that matters
[08:58] <k1l_> Blueking: ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:58] <Blueking> ducasse  are there ways to resize fat32 partition ?
[08:59] <k1l_> show the url please in here
[08:59] <ducasse> Blueking: i doubt it, you may need to backup files, resize partition, reformat as fat32 and restore files
[08:59] <Blueking> ok
[08:59] <Simooon> k1l_, anyway thanks, I will probably upgrade to 17.04 when it comes out regardless :-)
[09:00] <ducasse> Blueking: at which point you also need to update grub and efi firmware vars, since the uuid will change
[09:00] <Blueking> hmm
[09:00] <Blueking> k1l_  nothing happens ?
[09:01] <xuanwu> .
[09:03] <Blueking> k1l_  ok had to add 9999 in firewall  -> http://termbin.com/cpr0
[09:03] <frosto> Hi
[09:04] <k1l_> Blueking: that is one kernel in /boot only
[09:04] <Blueking> just used purge :P
[09:04] <Blueking> deleted 64 and 67
[09:05] <Blueking> now /boot are 29% used
[09:06] <Blueking> before apt autoremove /boot was at 97%    after autoremove   60%   purged 64 and 67   29%
[09:06] <Blueking> uh after autoremove 69%
[09:07] <jj-_> Hi everybody, I desperately need some help with my Ubuntu system. After upgrading my system yesterday, python broke for some reason and I fixed it, or so I thought, when I tried booting up my computer today I got the error ALLOC MAGIC BROKEN at grub, I am using a live usb right now and I have chrooted into the ssd, but I am lost what to do, a lot of the commands dont work, such as df -h
[09:07] <OerHeks> Blueking, normally you would have 2 kernels after autoremove, 70 and 67 .. so i guess something strange is going on.
[09:08] <Blueking> ok, might be some setting when installed  it ?  it's ubuntu 16.04 server version
[09:09] <MoL0ToV> someone can explain to me how to deny all user to pause the default printer?
[09:09] <OerHeks> now you removed 1 kernel too much, no recovery mode possible.
[09:10] <Blueking> have backups
[09:10] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, you need to play with cups policy
[09:10] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, see https://www.cups.org/doc/policies.html (and search for "pause")
[09:10] <MoL0ToV> ikevin, is normal that the default user can pause the printer without authenticate?
[09:10] <Blueking> ok resize fat32 partition   it can't be smaller than 512MB it seems
[09:11] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, it depend of the ubuntu default policies
[09:11] <MoL0ToV> yes, what are the default ubuntu policies?
[09:14] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, by default: Require user @SYSTEM
[09:14] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, and cups doc say: Specifies the group(s) to use for @SYSTEM group authentication. The default contains "admin", "lpadmin", "root", "sys", and/or "system".
[09:15] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, you can override this by defining "SystemGroup <group name>" in your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[09:16] <ikevin> or changing the value of "require" from @SYSTEM to @OWNER
[09:16] <MoL0ToV> ok thx
[09:16] <ikevin> you welcome
[09:16] <conn> Hello everyone...
[09:17]  * conn Curious
[09:17] <conn> I hope I can ask a question about another Ubuntu based distro too
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> ikevin, how to know who are the developer that mantain che cups package for ubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:18] <ikevin> conn, nop, only offical ubuntu version
[09:18] <DJones> conn: As longats an official flavour of Ubuntu your welcome to ask here
[09:18] <DJones> !flavors | conn
[09:18] <Blueking> guess I have to make copy/image of system and reinstall stuff
[09:18] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups see "maintainer"
[09:20] <MoL0ToV> ikevin, says : Ubuntu Developers
[09:20] <CrazyH> How to disable overlay scroll bars in Ubuntu 16.04? I've tried all of the tricks that Google showed me and some that it didn't. Sofar nothing is working :-(
[09:21] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, it look like it's not only 1 person, apt-get show cups show ubuntu dev to
[09:22] <MoL0ToV> apt-get show cups
[09:22] <MoL0ToV> E: Operazione show non valida
[09:22] <wallie> any one else here with a borked cups install on 16.04.2?
[09:22] <ikevin> MoL0ToV, oups sorry, apt-cache show
[09:23] <conn> I am using Linux Mint for almost 10 years and it is very similar in built except for the desktop UI, does it count?
[09:23] <ducasse> !mint | conn
[09:23] <aurelie> cc
[09:23] <k1l_> conn: mint has its own issues, better ask the mint guys in their support channel on the different irc network
[09:23] <MoL0ToV> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[09:24] <aurelie> salut
[09:24] <aurelie> cc
[09:24] <ducasse> !fr | aurelie
[09:25] <conn> No problem. Thanks anyway guys...
[09:26] <OerHeks> CrazyH, easy with unity-tweak-tool, system > scrolling > overlay -> legacy
[09:26] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[09:26] <CrazyH> OerHeks, I'm not running unity. I'm running Gnome-flashback with Metacity
[09:27] <OerHeks> CrazyH, oh, then i have no clue, search for it with dconf editor ?
[09:28] <CrazyH> OerHeks, I did... many times. I can't find anything that looks useful. I'm messing around with gsettings now to see if I can fidn anything extra in there
[09:28] <ducasse> CrazyH: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B#Disable_overlay_scrollbars
[09:31] <CrazyH> OerHeks, I tried com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode=normal    but that didn't work :-(
[09:32] <ikevin> CrazyH, ducasse has give you the solution
[09:33] <CrazyH> ikevin, ducasse yes, thank you. I'm reading that link now
[09:33] <Browser> Hello, I made a copy of a hard-drive and now I am using on another PC but the network card is not detected. I know the network card is totally compatible on Ubuntu as if I do a clean installation, it will work. Is there a way to fix the problem without having to start a clean installation?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Browser: chipset of your network card? ubuntu version?
[09:38] <proxx_> Browser , how are you so sure its not detected
[09:40] <ducasse> Browser: pastebin output of 'lspci -k' and 'ifconfig -a'
[09:40] <CrazyH> ducasse, how can I tell if I'm running GTK2 or GTK3? I see evidence of both of them being installed on my system
[09:40] <ducasse> CrazyH: you're most likely running both
[09:40] <proxx_> ^
[09:40] <proxx_> some apps have 2 , some 3 , some both
[09:41] <proxx_> *use
[09:41] <eSa|> Hi, is there a way to run a program from the shell at a certain position of the screen?
[09:42] <proxx_> eSa| a CLI tool or a GUI ? ?
[09:42] <CrazyH> ducasse, I tried what the page that you gave me suggested. I opened a terminal and entered `export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0;` Then I opened a new window. The scroll bar style did not change. Do I have to put this in my ~/.xinitrc file then reboot?
[09:42] <eSa|> proxx_: cli
[09:42] <ikevin> CrazyH, yes, so, just logout/login
[09:43] <Lukker> Hello guys
[09:43] <OerHeks> CrazyH, logout/login i guess to make the change take effect
[09:43] <ducasse> CrazyH: try 'GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 gnome-terminal'
[09:43] <proxx_> eSa| so you want to run a appl in a terminal and have it on a specific location inside the terminal ?
[09:44] <eSa|> proxx_: not really I want the app to be positioned inside the X session
[09:44] <Browser> proxx_: it doesn't appear anything in the connections settings.
[09:44] <Lukker> I hope this is not a dumb question: "when i run a script ...in the same shell or in a new shell" what is the difference?
[09:44] <CrazyH> Lukker, env vars for one
[09:44] <proxx_> eSa|; which WM/DE are you running
[09:45] <proxx_> Browser, and what does ifconfig or ip a show ?
[09:45] <Lukker> CrazyH ?
[09:45] <eSa|> i'm with ubuntu
[09:46] <eSa|> proxx_: i'm with ubuntu
[09:46] <Lukker> I hope this is not a dumb question: "when i run a script ...in the same shell or in a new shell" what is the difference?
[09:47] <Lukker> ./   or . ./  ?
[09:48] <proxx_> eSa| http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/gnome-shell-make-applications-start-on.html maybe this points you in the right direction
[09:48] <Lukker> Nobody?
[09:49] <proxx_> Lukker, be patient dude
[09:49] <Lukker> ok ok :)
[09:50] <proxx_> I am not sure I understand you first question , the second is ez , ./ means here , ../ means one step down
[09:50] <proxx_> . = current  .. means current-1 :)
[09:53] <CrazyH> Lukker, when you run different shells they will have different environments variable values. This can make a BIG difference in your scripts running correctly. You should ask this question in #bash
[09:53] <eSa|> proxx_: in my case i have a second monitor and i want the program to appear there
[09:54] <Lukker> #bash
[09:54] <CrazyH> ducasse, cat .xinitrc
[09:54] <CrazyH> export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0;
[09:54] <Lukker> i see
[09:54] <CrazyH> ducasse, however, even after a full reboot no changes took effect :-/
[09:55] <proxx_> eSa| , that link has that solution iiuc
[09:55] <Lukker> how do i change to #bash forum?
[09:55] <EriC^^> Lukker: type /join #bash
[09:55] <CrazyH> Lukker,  type '/join #bash'
[09:56] <Lukker> thnks , as  you understand i am new here :)
[09:57] <proxx_> Lukker its fine , welcome
[09:57] <CrazyH> Lukker, no worries. We're all noobs at one time or another
[09:58] <Lukker> :) your help is appreciated though
[10:06] <EvilReaper> hello
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> EvilReaper: welcome, how can we help you?
[10:21] <CrazyH> ducasse, so I followed the instructions on the link that you have me, but it still did not work ( even after a full reboot ) :-( The env var did get set though as shown in this post: http://pasteall.org/325822
[10:22] <CrazyH> I set that env var in /etc/environment
[10:26] <leeyaa> hi
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: welcome, how can we help you?
[10:26] <leeyaa> i have a software raid0 array md1. for some reason after reboot array gets renamed to md127. thats my config https://bpaste.net/show/1457df75ad73
[10:27] <leeyaa> i read on the web that it might be a bug with Ubuntu kernel, I am on 16.04 LTS
[10:27] <leeyaa> any tips how to resolve that ?
[10:27] <leeyaa> the md1 device gets renamed to md127
[10:27] <leeyaa> works fine for md0
[10:27] <animatrix> the grat wall
[10:27] <animatrix> the great wall
[10:28] <Browser> proxx_: https://pastebin.com/raw/E9DJE0N1 , those are the outputs for lspci -k and ifconfig -a
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: this might help: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1764861
[10:29] <Browser> Don't know why the network card is not detected at all.
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Browser: some network cards can be disabled while changing uefi settings also, is this your case?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Browser: did you do anything specific lately?
[10:32] <Browser> The hard driver is a copy of one used on another PC. The network card is detected on Ubuntu Live.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> Browser: yes, but you need to update your system also
[10:33] <k1l_> is that a pc or a laptop?
[10:33] <Browser> pc with touch screen
[10:34] <k1l_> does it have a hardware switch for turning off wifi?
[10:34] <Browser> It has been fixed after restore the bios default settings
[10:34] <EriC^^> Browser: check the bios for a disable/enable option
[10:35] <flyboy88> join channel
[10:38] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: i think i forgot to run  update-initramfs -u before
[10:38] <leeyaa> so md1 was missing from initramfs
[10:38] <leeyaa> thanks!
[10:38] <proxx_> Browser I was having lunch sry, ill take a look
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !yay | leeyaa
[10:39] <Browser> proxx_: it is working now, the LAN was enabled on the bios but using the default settings fixed it, so dunno what was changed.
[10:39] <proxx_> Browser, great :)
[10:42] <snadge> whats the most memory efficient way to upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04? 2gb ram, celeron cpu netbook.. from console?
[10:43] <proxx_> snadge, well not sure why you care but yes, stop gdm and do it from the TTY
[10:44] <proxx_> and if you really care you could shutdown some more services
[10:44] <snadge> because its going to take a very long time.. i know it.. many hours :p
[10:45] <proxx_> haha , yes there is that ofc :)
[10:45] <tiffypoo> hey guys, im still new to this but is there a way to download a program to a secondary drive?
[10:45] <snadge> yeah so maybe i can make it quicker.. like you say, strip down to bare essentials
[10:46] <proxx_> tiffypoo , in that case you'd better move the  /usr to a different mount point, see fstab for that
[10:46] <proxx_> (assuming you are lacking space on / )
[10:47] <proxx_> @ snadge:  service lightdm stop
[10:47] <tiffypoo> even tho the other drive has its own os on it? that will be moved to another computer?
[10:47] <proxx_> tiffypoo please explain what you want to do exactly
[10:48] <proxx_> just download  a pkg and move that ?
[10:50] <tiffypoo> i have ubuntu 10 on my secondary drive, that needs drivers i dont have to access the internet, so i just put into my other computer as a secondary ( main os xeial? ) and im looking to just dowload the program im looking for to the drive instead of fighting with disks and flash drives
[10:51] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: you can chroot and have internet on the os
[10:51] <tiffypoo> ?
[10:51] <proxx_> tiffypoo  if you know exactly which packages you need you can just download them from the repo and install with dpkg
[10:52] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: stop at step 11 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[10:52] <EriC^^> you'll be in the os with internet access and you can run apt-get and stuff
[10:52] <proxx_> ^that would be the fancy method :)
[10:53] <tiffypoo> but my drive dosnt have internet, how do i download anything
[10:53] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: you boot the os that has internet, and then access the other os from there
[10:54] <proxx_> ^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[10:56] <tiffypoo> ahh ok, one last question, i dont know if im using lvm or bcache lol, is there a way to check?
[10:57] <EriC^^> try sudo parted -l if it says lvm in one of the columns then you are
[10:57] <EriC^^> you probably aren't though
[10:59] <tiffypoo> im not lol thankz
[10:59] <proxx_> not sure why ubuntu didnt switch yet
[10:59] <proxx_> lvm is great
[11:01] <cousteau> I'm uninstalling old kernel images
[11:02] <cousteau> apparently apt-get regenerates the grub menu when I uninstall an image
[11:02] <truh> Is the french repo down?
[11:02] <cousteau> apparently it does so for EACH image
[11:02] <cousteau> I've regenerated the grub menu 11 times in a row
[11:03] <hateball> cousteau: Is that a problem or are you just blogging?
[11:03] <cousteau> hateball, well, it's odd
[11:04] <hateball> Not really, it's what the scripts are designed to do
[11:04] <cousteau> I'd expect grub to be regenerated only once per command
[11:04] <cousteau> truh, http://isup.me/fr.archive.ubuntu.com -- "It's not just you! http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com looks down from here."
[11:05] <cousteau> ok, thanks, now that I have 2.4 GB more of space I'm gonna reboot to confirm that I didn't break anything
[11:10] <Richard> hello
[11:11] <tiffypoo> the terminal says i dont have a vaild ntsf
[11:11] <k1l_> tiffypoo: put the full output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[11:14] <tiffypoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24274038/      like this?
[11:17] <k1l_> tiffypoo: ok, can you show a "sudo parted -l " too?
[11:22] <tiffypoo> i got past that part, i had it labled wrong, but now im stuck here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24274072/
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:25] <proxx_> tiffypoo it doesnt recognize the partition type
[11:25] <proxx_> are you sure that is the correct device
[11:25] <proxx_> *it is
[11:25] <kbob> hello BluesKaj
[11:25] <tiffypoo> yup
[11:26] <BluesKaj> hi kbob
[11:27] <tiffypoo> both drives run ubuntu so im kinda confused myself
[11:28] <proxx_> tiffypoo its weird I agree, if that is the correct partition it could be damaged
[11:28] <tiffypoo> there a way to check for that?
[11:28] <proxx_> check in parted/gparted what the partition schema is supposed to be
[11:29] <proxx_> you could force it to say ext4 , its probably not gonna help but might provide more output
[11:29] <proxx_> also check dmesg
[11:30] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[11:31] <k1l_> tiffypoo: would be a lot easier if we see that parted output
[11:31] <proxx_> ^sure he is working that right now :)
[11:34] <tiffypoo> g parted says its ext 4, im doing the term bin now
[11:34] <proxx_> oke , mount should detect that but you can ovveride it with the -t flag
[11:34] <guest-rbm5ug> hey
[11:34] <guest-rbm5ug> petter
[11:35] <k1l_> proxx_: we dont know what command he used there
[11:35] <proxx_> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[11:35] <proxx_> ^
[11:36] <k1l_> proxx_: that was the first one which got another error. (i guess because sda2 is wrong. but we dont know because we dont know the details)
[11:37] <proxx_> ah oke , ill step back , one captain is enough
[11:37] <tiffypoo> http://termbin.com/ek0t
[11:38] <proxx_> ahhh
[11:38] <proxx_> its should be sdb2 probably
[11:38] <proxx_> * 1
[11:38] <tiffypoo> i did try sdb sdb1 2 and 3
[11:38] <tiffypoo> still same
[11:39] <proxx_> mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt  ?
[11:39] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: which os are you using right now? type " df | grep dev"
[11:40] <proxx_> lol good point
[11:42] <tiffypoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24274148/ eric
[11:42] <tiffypoo> how do i privatly send?
[11:43] <proxx_> sdb1 is already mounted
[11:43] <k1l_> tiffypoo: your other system is already mounted at /media/maven/4f448123-3454-4980-807b-e33ef711f49b
[11:43] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: ok first unmount /dev/sdb1
[11:43] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[11:43] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:43] <prod_> Hi all, I have a technical question about RAID1, very simply is the spare drive used if there is no failure in the 2 main drives?
[11:43] <proxx_> prod_ depends on the setup
[11:43] <proxx_> it can be a spare or active
[11:44] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: btw on your current os, the swap partition is missing, there's the extended partition but nothing inside it
[11:44] <prod_> will it stay unused while spare?
[11:44] <tiffypoo> ? ok whats that mean eric?
[11:44] <proxx_> if its a spare yes
[11:44] <prod_> thank you!
[11:45] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: swap is used for hibernation mainly, you can't hibernate without it
[11:45] <tiffypoo> oh no bigge then
[11:46] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: we'll get to it later i guess, first things first did you mount /dev/sdb1 at /mnt?
[11:47] <tiffypoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24274170/
[11:47] <tiffypoo> lol im glad i have help
[11:48] <proxx_> youll get better at this :)
[11:48] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: it's umount without the n
[11:48] <tiffypoo> ahh sorry
[11:48] <EriC^^> dont ask i guess :D i guess the programmers were lazy
[11:50] <tiffypoo> ok umounted and mounted
[11:51] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: ok, now to mount bind some filesystems from your current os to the mountpoint, run the following command word for word
[11:51] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:52] <snadge> running do-release-upgrade -d on my laptop :D
[11:54] <snadge> i want to be a part of the privileged few who dare to go into the frontiers.. report issues, fix bugs, and make the world a better place ;)
[11:58] <tiffypoo> cant load paste, maven@maven-XPS-8300:~$ for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:58] <tiffypoo> [sudo] password for maven:
[11:58] <tiffypoo> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[11:58] <tiffypoo> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[11:58] <tiffypoo> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[11:58] <tiffypoo> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[11:59] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: try sudo -i
[12:00] <EriC^^> then run "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[12:02] <tiffypoo> i cant use the terminal now, says error with creating child process getpt failed?
[12:03] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: close it and open another one
[12:03] <EriC^^> then try the for i command again
[12:03] <tiffypoo> same error
[12:06] <tiffypoo> should i try a power reset?
[12:07] <ioria> tiffypoo, mount | grep pts
[12:08] <tiffypoo> where do i put that?
[12:08] <ioria> tiffypoo, oh, right ... terminal not working :þ
[12:08] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: try quickly ctrl+alt+f1 , login, type sudo mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts
[12:09] <EriC^^> then press alt+f7 to get back here
[12:09] <ioria> tiffypoo, try that ^
[12:09] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work still then try restarting from the button on the right top corner
[12:10] <DullTube> what's the correct disk scheduler for a SSD? Some tutorials suggest noop, others deadline.
[12:10] <Guest92951> May you help me for using a printer that is connected to a router via usb ?
[12:12] <tiffypoo> terminal works
[12:12] <tiffypoo> sudo -i?
[12:13] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: ok
[12:13] <ioria> DullTube, debian wiki says deadline https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization#Low-Latency_IO-Scheduler but keep asking
[12:14] <CaptainACE> Hello World!
[12:16] <tiffypoo> mount point /mnt/run does not exist
[12:16] <tiffypoo> brb
[12:17] <gulshan> help me guys
[12:18] <tiffypoo> k
[12:18] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: did you restart?
[12:19] <tiffypoo> not yet,
[12:19] <ph88> i thought i added more space to my VM gparted shows there is space, but nautilus and notification say there is still not enough space  https://i.imgur.com/8JRWsnv.png  what could be wrong here ?
[12:19] <gulshan> how do i download various packages without installing them  with dependency in ubuntu?
[12:20] <tiffypoo> should i ?
[12:20] <gulshan> how do i download various packages without installing them  with dependency in ubuntu?
[12:21] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: nah
[12:21] <EriC^^> tiffypoo: try ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:22] <Guest92951> Please, my I have an help about a printer connected on a router? That printer is working with a computer with vista
[12:22] <DJones> gulshan: This might help https://docs.oseems.com/general/operatingsystem/ubuntu/apt-download-only It suggests sudo apt-get install -d package-name
[12:31] <j09> How do I stop the auto-login when I boot up?
[12:32] <ikevin> j09, in the session manager settings
[12:33] <j09> ikevin the issue is that it boots me into an unresponsive desktop. Is there a way to interrupt the auto-login process?
[12:33] <ikevin> nop, so you maybe can do a logout
[12:34] <ikevin> or doing a ctrl+alt+f1 and disable auto login directly on the config file
[12:34] <ph88> jeez managing those lvm's is not easy, and gparted doesn't do anything about it
[12:34] <ph88> had to run   sudo lvdisplay      sudo lvextend -L +10g /dev/ubuntu-gnome-vg/root     sudo resize2fs /dev/ubuntu-gnome-vg/root
[12:34] <j09> ikevin I can't seem to log out since the Unity 8 desktop freezes on me.
[12:34] <ikevin> j09, try using ctrl+alt+f1
[12:35] <ikevin> j09, if it don't work, use the recovery mode
[12:35] <j09> ikevin I'm on the command line
[12:35] <pltesting> hey, i have a problem with nvidia binary drivers, if i stop lightdm from the tty the screen goes black
[12:36] <ikevin> j09, open file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and comment autologin-user
[12:36] <ikevin> j09, then restart lightdm
[12:36] <pltesting> does anyone know why
[12:37] <j09> ikevin Thanks, I'll give that a spin
[12:38] <tiffypoo> ok even restarted, term bin wont start
[12:38] <tiffypoo> just jumps to the next line like its working
[12:38] <j09> ikevin Okay thanks, I'm back on track. Thank you very much for the help.
[12:39] <ikevin> you welcome :)
[12:39] <markus-k_> has anyone used the ubuntu cloud-images with ovirt before in here?
[12:39] <immu_> nope
[12:43] <markus-k_> my network only comes up on first boot and can't login either then
[12:45] <gulshan> Okay, i have downloaded the required packages using apt-get install -d <package_name>, now i how do i create repository for them
[12:45] <gulshan> ???
[12:48] <tufo1> i  effort  import a certificate file that fomat that is  *.pfx in the firefox soft and in tab <your certificates> but show error and i cant import that .have solution this problem?
[12:48] <OerHeks> gulshan, create repository ?? what packages are you talking about?
[12:49] <tufo1> i  effort  import a certificate file that fomat that is  *.pfx in the firefox soft and in tab <your certificates> but show error and i cant import that .have solution this problem?
[12:50] <tiffypoo> ubuntu 16 has a plug n play method where drivers are not needed, but 10 clearly does not have the same feature, what is this feature and does any one know the first os with it?
[12:50] <k1l_> tiffypoo: ubuntu 10.04 is not supported anymore. no need to bother
[12:51] <tufo1> i  effort  import a certificate file that fomat that is  *.pfx in the firefox soft and in tab <your certificates> but show error and i cant import that .have solution this problem?
[12:52] <tiffypoo> im running 10 now, and struggling with it, im just curious what system started that feature
[12:52] <tiffypoo> then i will just replace 10 with it
[12:53] <tufo1> i want have a certificate in  section <your certificate> my firefox
[12:53] <k1l_> tiffypoo: ubuntu 10.04 is dead since 2 years for the server, and 4 years for the desktop. so there is no way we handle that in here.
[12:53] <k1l_> tiffypoo: the dirver support has increased very much in the last 7 years.
[12:53] <tiffypoo> ok,
[12:54] <tiffypoo> ok what os would you recomend i move to ?
[12:55] <OerHeks> tufo1, how did you get that .pfx? no manual with that?
[12:55] <k1l_> tiffypoo: a recent ubuntu release
[12:55] <tiffypoo> your a dumbass
[12:55] <k1l_> what?
[12:56] <tufo1> well .i write on the terminal:
[12:57] <pltesting> does anyone have idea why stopping lightdm / killing X in a tty, would make the screen black on the tty?
[12:57] <pltesting> im using nvidia binary drivers
[12:57] <tufo1> this  cammand : openssl x509 -outform pem -in COMODO_Certification_Authority.pem -out COMODO_Certification_Authority.pfx
[12:58] <tufo1> but i can not use that
[12:58] <OerHeks> tufo1, the openssl wiki gives easy steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL#Using_PKCS.2312_Certificates_in_Client_Applications
[12:58] <Delfer> hi all. server 16.04. after editing fstab (add wrong dev, miss to check) , reboot, after both interfaces pings, but all 65535 ports closed. can I sent some magic packet or I will have a trip?)))
[12:58] <OerHeks> all you need is the password, if the pfx is protected
[12:59] <ikevin> Delfer, need physical (or kvm) access
[12:59] <Delfer> ikevin, thx(((
[12:59] <ij> Are there suggestions on how should I better do what would've been "systemctl enable service@X; systemctl enable service@Y" on ubuntu 14 without systemd? Multiple init.d files?
[12:59] <ikevin> ij, update-rc.d
[13:00] <tufo1> ok
[13:04] <tufo1>  there is no such password attached to the my certificate
[13:05] <tufo1> i get that certificat via <export> bottom
[13:05] <OerHeks> tufo1, that could be true, i would protect it with a password.
[13:06] <OerHeks> tufo1, then just say yes/continue
[13:06] <tufo1> but shoe error to me
[13:07] <tufo1> Failed to decode the file.  Either it is not in PKCS #12 format, has been corrupted, or the password you entered was incorrect.
[13:08] <tufo1> that is txt error
[13:08] <tufo1> i not have master password for firfox
[13:10] <addie> hello
[13:11] <proxx_> yello
[13:11] <OerHeks> tufo1, then i have no idea, certificate damaged, or wrong, dunno
[13:11] <tufo1> ok
[13:12] <tufo1> thanks
[13:14] <proxx_> can you cat the file and see the plain text tufo1
[13:14] <sam_wongms25> hi
[13:14] <proxx_> openssl (the cli tool) can do a lot of conversion magic and what not, should also be able to confirm its completeness etc
[13:15] <backbox> Hi
[13:20] <alau> Hi there! I have a little problem: in my ubuntu 16.04, I'm trying to configure my Wi-fi device through this command line: iwconfig wlp6s0 essid Blucomb key Passwd. I have this result: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A): invalid argument "Passwd". How come? P.s I can't configure it through a windows manager because i have a problem with the second screen I try to use in place of the first one that is damaged.
[13:20] <davidj> So, I'm having some graphic artifacts on ubuntu after I unsuspend. Any thoughts?  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IrlDhnO5/
[13:21] <proxx_> alau is it wpa2 encrypted ?
[13:21] <sam_wongms25> I downloaded a file seamonkey2.46.tar.bz2 from the internet and extracted it using GUI. It exploded into several directories and many small files. However, none of files have a 'tar' ending and therefore the tar command becomes unusable. Please help.
[13:22] <alau> proxx_: yes
[13:22] <proxx_> alau then you should use wpa_supplicant
[13:22] <OerHeks> davidj,  seen many screens like this, nvidia driver issue, not sure wich one, 367 or 375
[13:23] <alau> proxx_: how to?
[13:23] <proxx_> alau you can create a file with wpa_passphrase , then use supplicant to connect, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant
[13:25] <davidj> @OerHeks Thanks. 375 is what I'm using if my memory serves me correct.
[13:25] <wastrel> sam_wongms25: the gui uncompressed the bz2 and extracted the tar archive.  you don't need to untar
[13:26] <OerHeks> davidj, to check, open synaptic or on comandline:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[13:26] <OerHeks> davidj, i would step 1 driver number down
[13:26] <sam_wongms25> wastrel: what should I do next?
[13:27] <OerHeks> sam_wongms25,  their site gives http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux
[13:27] <sam_wongms25> thanks a lot
[13:28] <davidj> Thanks for your feedback @OerHeks, I'll give that a try.
[13:28] <davidj> <3
[13:32] <sam_wongms25> OerHeks: there is a file 'seamonkey' in green. When I type ./seamonkey as instructed by the website, it returns 'bash: ./seamonkey: No such file or directory
[13:34] <OlofL> how do I set themes in my terminal?
[13:41] <danst> if I want to get 4.10 kernel on xenial, can I just download these debs and dpkg -i them? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10/
[13:45] <OerHeks> danst, yes, see the wiki in what order
[13:45] <OerHeks> !mainline
[13:47] <danst> wow irc is still alive
[13:47] <danst> thanks guys
[13:49] <SirJoker21> hello is anyone avilable for a little tech support?
[13:49] <SirJoker21> if so please PM me
[13:50] <Scoop7> hello I am using sticky notes and also using two monitors, but today noticed that two of my sticky notes managed to  hide somewhere out of the visible monitors scope... Is it possible to see them ever again ?
[13:50] <proxx_> SirJoker21 , no , just post the question
[13:51] <Southern_Gentlem> SirJoker21, default to OPEN
[13:52] <mojtaba> hi
[13:53] <ij> ikevin, Does update-rc.d specifically handle the @X, @Y part too?
[13:53] <ikevin> ij, i think no
[13:53] <ij> Ah.
[13:53] <mellowh> ayy
[13:53] <ij> lmao
[13:53] <mellowh> I just got
[13:53] <mellowh> xmonad
[13:54] <mellowh> well got it yesterday
[13:54] <mellowh> now it's starting to get dope
[13:54] <proxx_> tilers are the only way to compute :P
[13:55] <Scoop7> Guys, is it possible to see all program tabs(including the ones that were misplaced beyond the display scope) ???
[13:55] <poorUser> Hi people, i have a strange problem. If i ping www.google.com i get ->unknown host. nslookup gives "Non authoritative answer: 216.58.206.4" and i can ping the IP address.
[13:55] <apinsv> i am not getting network after booting ubuntu 16.04 server
[13:56] <apinsv> this is a fresh install
[13:56] <proxx_> Scoop7 just disable the other mon and the screens will be replaced ;)
[13:56] <proxx_> *windows
[13:56] <proxx_> whatever
[13:56] <poorUser> If i comment into /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.1.1 and put it nameserver 8.8.8.8 everything begin to work, what might be?
[13:57] <proxx_> poorUser the 127 assumes it runs  a local (caching)dns server
[13:57] <poorUser> yeah
[13:57] <proxx_> you probably dont , so there is why, also /etc/resolv is filled from NetworkManager
[13:58] <poorUser> but it gives answers from nslookup :(
[13:58] <proxx_> So either make sure you have local caching server or use a upstream DNS
[13:58] <poorUser> tnk proxx_
[13:59] <proxx_> oke so dig ubuntu.com 127.0.1.1 works ?
[13:59] <poorUser> yes
[13:59] <SirJoker21> can i ask a dumb question?
[14:00] <Southern_Gentlem> can we give you a dumb answer
[14:00] <SirJoker21> of course
[14:00] <proxx_> and when you point nameserver 127.0.1.1 in /etc/resolv it doesnt work ?
 DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> 127.0.1.1 www.google.com
[14:00] <Southern_Gentlem> ask your question
[14:00] <DJones> SirJoker21: As long as its Ubuntu related, feel free to ask
[14:00] <poorUser> exactly
[14:00] <poorUser> i mean, this is strange
[14:01] <proxx_> I see your point
[14:01] <SirJoker21> i got a new HP laptop, im just a casual user and its loaded with Win10, I want to dual bot with ubuntu, is it fairly straightforward?
[14:01] <SirJoker21> boot
[14:01] <proxx_> how did you config /etc/resolv ? by hand ?
[14:01] <Southern_Gentlem> SirJoker21, 1) we are fluent in typonese
[14:02] <SirJoker21> ive dualbooted windows and linux together ten+ years ago but it seems a lot has changed
[14:02] <poorUser> left it automatic, i modify it when internet stop working
[14:02] <Southern_Gentlem> be sure to create freespace by shrinking your hd in WINDOWS
[14:02] <Scoop7> proxx_: doesn't helpe.. .manage to export the info in json, so will recreate the notes.... from json to more readable form :/
[14:02] <poorUser> as a workaround
[14:02] <Scoop7> managed
[14:02] <Exterminador> hello guys. I was wondering if it's possible somehow to run FireFox inside a vps.. note that I don't have a Gui
[14:02] <SirJoker21> does ubuntu contain a good amount of drivers or will that part be difficult?
[14:02] <Southern_Gentlem> and install the linux in the free space
[14:03] <Southern_Gentlem> efi and secureboot can make thing fun so backup your data
[14:03] <SirJoker21> recommend any good partitioning software and dual boot software?
[14:03] <proxx_> poorUser oke because NetworkManager will try to overwrite it , did you try setting the thing from NM ?
[14:03] <proxx_> SirJoker21 ubuntu can do all that
[14:03] <Southern_Gentlem> SirJoker21, let the installer handle that
[14:04] <SirJoker21> the ubuntu will even create the partition?
[14:04] <Southern_Gentlem> you didnt need any special software 10 years ago and you still dont
[14:04] <proxx_>  ^
[14:04] <poorUser> proxx_: to direclty add nameservers into nm? not yet. I was just curious about the reason of this funny problem
[14:04] <SirJoker21> ok well last question for now. What version of ubuntu?
[14:04] <proxx_> poorUser well do you want to use the caching server ?
[14:04] <Southern_Gentlem> SirJoker21,  the #1 is to make the space using the Windows tools first
[14:05] <SirJoker21> TY
[14:05] <tapanik> ostin 16gt kingston muistitikun , 7.90e
[14:05] <tapanik> dvd-r ei enään irtomyynnissä oikein
[14:05] <Southern_Gentlem> SirJoker21,  it is sounding to me that you need to install linux in a VM first and play so you have an idea of what you want
[14:05] <tapanik> en tarvi 5x dvd-r
[14:05] <poorUser> proxx_: is it a good idea? :D
[14:06] <DJones> SirJoker21: I would suggest 16.04 which is a long term support release (5 years of support) or 16.10, but with that you'll have to upgrade to 17.04 withing a few months.
[14:06] <tapanik> tosin haluan ubuntun myös dvd:lle polttaa imagen
[14:06] <tapanik> tikulta asensin tämän tähän tosin
[14:06] <proxx_> poorUser Well tiny speed increase for just a desktop is fun but barely noticeable, I suggest you point NetworkManager to an upstream server , use the GUI or nmcli for that
[14:06] <tapanik> ehkä vaan olen vainoharhainen
[14:06] <OerHeks> !info xfb
[14:06] <tapanik> sorry
[14:06] <tapanik> :D
[14:06] <SirJoker21> TY DJones
[14:06] <tapanik> i'm talking finish
[14:07] <PaoloP> hello. how can I install the latest ubuntu (or 16.04) i NON UEFI mode?
[14:07] <tapanik> wrong irc
[14:07] <tapanik> rufus software
[14:07] <tapanik> i used rufus to make boot usb stick
[14:07] <tapanik> for ubuntu
[14:07] <poorUser> k proxx_ , i'll use this solution, as desktop use i do not have a massive dns work to do :D
[14:07] <PaoloP> hello. how can I install the latest ubuntu (or 16.04) in NON UEFI mode?
[14:07] <poorUser> tnk for the help!!
[14:08] <proxx_> poorUser good luck
[14:10] <Wirehunter> PaoloP, Boot your pc into ubuntu using legacy mode. I think that should do it.
[14:10] <PaoloP> Wirehunter: it's an old pc
[14:10] <PaoloP> it doesn't have legacy mode, I think
[14:11] <PereP> any expert in shell / init scripts / services?
[14:11] <PaoloP> but I obtain: "the grub-pc package failed to install into /target/"
[14:11] <PereP> I have a custom init.d script I've made that is doing anything when I try to run it and I don't know why
[14:12] <sunkist> PereP: have you tried running it with bash -x ?
[14:13] <PereP> no sunkist, no idea; what is that?
[14:13] <PereP> I was trying with sudo systemctl start my-script
[14:13] <Wirehunter> PaoloP, It shouldn't install in uefi mode if the computer doesn't have uefi.
[14:13] <sunkist> Run `bash -x /etc/init.d/yourscript.sh' and it will show you the commands bash is running (and which command gets executed last)
[14:13] <PaoloP> Wirehunter: I agree. but I don't understand what to try
[14:13] <PaoloP> Wirehunter: it stops the installation at this step
[14:14] <PereP> oh, I see, sunkist
[14:15] <sunkist> I've got xenial, trying to debug a DNS issue.  It appears that Network manager is telling dnsmasq what resolvers to use by sending it a message over DBUS.  I want to intercept this message or somehow determine which resolvers dnsmasq is trying to use.
[14:15] <sunkist> I tried dbus-monitor but it is only monitoring signals, not messages
[14:16] <Wirehunter> PaoloP, I doubt that the issue has anything to do with uefi, Why do you think that might cause the issue?
[14:17] <PaoloP> Wirehunter: I doubt too. but given it's an old PC, I thought so...
[14:17] <PaoloP> what could I do? should I try 16.04 ?
[14:17] <PaoloP> I tried 16.10
[14:18] <Dreaman> 16.04 is lts
[14:18] <Dreaman> longe time support
[14:18] <ioria> PaoloP, it is Lubuntu or Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[14:18] <Dreaman> 5 years
[14:18] <PaoloP> ioria: lubuntu
[14:18] <PereP> sunkist: when trying to run the script with that method, it seems to do what it's meant to do
[14:19] <_ramo> hi
[14:19] <ioria> PaoloP, ok, are you connected to internet during the installation process ?  and did you select updates ?
[14:19] <PereP> but it won't when run via bash -x
[14:19] <PaoloP> ioria: no, not connected (I have to set dhcp in the router)
[14:19] <PereP> it's mean to run via systemtl start / stop
[14:19] <PereP> systemctl, sorry
[14:20] <PaoloP> ioria: should I connect during installation?
[14:20] <sunkist> PereP: does systemctl complain?
[14:20] <ioria> PaoloP, yes, and select 'Updates while installing'
[14:20] <_ramo> i've installed on a ubuntu 16.04   mesos, which installed python2.7 but placed it in a non-standard folder.  i want to install zabbix-agent on the same machine right now, but the package manager is confused and I don't know what to do :).
[14:20] <_ramo> what i'm doing is here: https://pastebin.com/hCbuvrVU
[14:20] <ioria> PaoloP, i think it's a bug in the lubuntu 16.10 installer
[14:20] <_ramo> does anyone have a hint what to do?
[14:20] <PaoloP> ioria: many thnks
[14:20] <PereP> and to be run automatically on start when proved to be working
[14:21] <ioria> PaoloP, good luck
[14:21] <PaoloP> ok let's try
[14:21] <PereP> sunkist: in the current form it doesn't complain, because actually my script consist of only a few echoes
[14:21] <Wirehunter> ioria, PaoloP, Ah, yes. I found that too just now. Good luck.
[14:22] <PaoloP> thnks ioria Wirehunter
[14:22] <PereP> when run by systemctl it outputs nothing
[14:22] <PereP> PaoloP, do you realize that you copied my nick style? xD
[14:22] <PaoloP> PereP: lo
[14:22] <PaoloP> LOL
[14:24] <_ramo> and the problem is, that mesos requires python2.7 at this place: /usr/lib/python2.7/
[14:25] <sunkist> PereP: does `systemctl status your.service' tell you anything?
[14:29] <PereP> looking at it, sunkist
[14:29] <sunkist> Perep, if your script literally only contains the "echo" command, then your script should have halted, and systemctl status will reflect that
[14:32] <PereP> sorry sunkist, it contained running another script as a different user, but I commented it out to debug
[14:32] <PereP> and put the echoes in
[14:32] <sunkist> PereP: if you want to see your program's output, check the journalctl command, I think `journalctl your.service'
[14:32] <PereP> I've put it in its original form, did a daemon-reload and now I see the status
[14:33] <PereP> it seems to be related to permissions
[14:33] <PereP> what the script is meant to do is
[14:33] <PereP> su - (another_user) -c "/usr/share/another_script.sh"
[14:33] <timvisher> i have Alt-f11 and Alt-f12 bound to switch to workspace 11 and switch to workspace 12 in my Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Navigation. I have f1-10 bound to similar actions. f1-10 all work, but 11 and 12 don't appear to register that they're pressed.
[14:34] <ikevin> PereP, why using su in a systemd script?
[14:34] <ikevin> you can tell to systemd to exec your script with the user you want
[14:35] <lerner> im trying to encrypt a hdd. I copied the instructions from a website years ago, so I cannot paste a link. After executing sudo lvcreate -L 457.4G -nVol8 VG1 /dev/sdc I get: Volume group "VG1" not found How do I create said VG?
[14:36] <ikevin> PereP, just add "User=<your user>" in you systemd unit and "ExecStart=/usr/share/another_script.sh"
[14:36] <caonima> hello!
[14:37] <caonima> someone here?
[14:38] <caonima> anybody here?
[14:38] <bipolar> !ask
[14:40] <PereP> ikevin, sunkist: my aim is to run an script that starts tomcat - I need to do it under a certain user because some environment vars, like $HOME for that user, are used
[14:41] <PereP> ikevin, sunkist: but also, as tomcat needs to be run with root permissions in order to write logs, etc., in certain directories, I run it (under that user) with sudo
[14:41] <PereP> that way it works as intended when run "manually"; what I'm missing is how to translate that "environment" into an init script
[14:42] <Wirehunter> Since I've installed 16.10, NetworkManager is behaving really bad. My usb network interface doesn't get recognized and my wifi connection suddenly drops out after a while.  If I want to use the usb network interface, I have to put it up though ifconfig and I have to put my own nameserver in /etc/resolve.conf. What should I do?
[14:43] <ikevin> PereP, you can define env var with systemd to if it's your problem
[14:44] <PereP> ikevin: do you mean define an env var with the user home path?
[14:45] <ikevin> PereP, yes, like Environment=HOME=/what/you/want
[14:46] <PereP> ikevin: I'm not sure if that will work... maybe other "attributes" of the user are needed by the script; I don't really know at all
[14:47] <PereP> in the example they provide, they explicitly say to run the script as that example_user, with a su
[14:47] <akis> hi all. could you please explain me whta is the difference between to install firefox add-on-extension 'uBlock Origin' or to install package: 'xul-ext-ublock-origin 1.6.6+dfsg-1'. I tried to be advised from here https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#firefox--firefox-for-android but i need some more help.
[14:48] <ikevin> PereP, you can "source /etc/profile" (or any other script) from your own script
[14:52] <brunch875> how do I figure out which package installed some other package?
[14:52] <PereP> thanks ikevin but it seems beyond of my understanding today
[14:53] <ioria> brunch875, you can try with  aptitude why package
[14:54] <brunch875> ioria: aptitude isn't installed though
[14:54] <PereP> currently looking at the docs
[14:55] <brunch875> ioria: good hint though, could google 'aptitude why apt' and found the soulution :p
[14:55] <ioria> brunch875, ok
[14:56] <PereP> I don't understand why "source" could be useful in my case
[14:56] <brunch875> if you're curious, apt-cache rdpends --installed <package> shows it
[14:56] <PereP> "Read and execute commands from the filename argument in the current shell context"... but it's meant to run on init...
[14:56] <ikevin> PereP, like when you open a terminal, some env var are defined by some script like /etc/profile , /etc/bashrc, ...
[14:57] <ioria> brunch875, those  are  the reverse deps
[14:57] <EriC^^> brunch875: nice
[14:58] <brunch875> yeah, figured out youtube-dl installed mvp
[14:58] <brunch875> it sounds like a weird dependency but oh well
[14:58] <ioria> brunch875, if you rdepends xchat, for example, you'll find xubuntu-desktop (not installed)
[14:58] <PereP> but if it's run at startup, I don't get what would be the "current shell"
[14:59] <EriC^^> ioria: yes he put the --installed flag, nice one
[14:59] <ioria> EriC^^, ah
[14:59] <ikevin> PereP, current shell whill be what you define on your script (like #!/bin/bash would be bash)
[14:59] <brunch875> I'd throw flowers to myself, but the solution was yoinked from askubuntu :p
[14:59] <ikevin> will*
[15:04] <Dreaman> !unity8
[15:05] <Johnson> I'm having an installation issue
[15:05] <ikevin> Johnson, this is not cool :(
[15:06] <Johnson> I used Rufus to put Ubuntu on a 7gb Sandisc flash drive
[15:06] <Johnson> the files were moved to the sandisc correctly, however nothing appears when I go to reboot
[15:07] <akik> Johnson: use rufus' dd mode
[15:07] <ikevin> Johnson, does usb boot is enabled in your bios?
[15:07] <Johnson> ikevin: I'm not sure
[15:07] <Johnson> where can I see those settings?
[15:08] <Johnson> akik: what is dd mode?
[15:09] <akik> Johnson: alt+i
[15:10] <ikevin> Johnson, in this case, it's a way to copy datas from iso to usb
[15:11] <akik> Johnson: the dd mode writes the iso image as is to the usb stick
[15:12] <PereP> ikevin: I'll try to reformulate my question
[15:13] <PereP> currently I run a script under a certain user, but do so with: su myscript.sh
[15:13] <PereP> I'd run that script at startup under the same circumstances
[15:15] <PereP> my assumption is that scripts on /etc/init.d are run as root... so I need a way (an script) that, being run at startup (as root?), it would emulate being run by a certain user, and what that user would be doing would be a "sudo myscript.sh"
[15:16] <PereP> [17:13] <PereP> currently I run a script under a certain user, but do so with: su myscript.sh ---> the right command is sudo myscript.sh
[15:18] <akik> PereP: a simple way to do it is to put it into /etc/rc.local
[15:19] <akik> PereP: su - user -c script
[15:19] <pc-saturnin> hello
[15:20] <PereP> akik: wouldn't that work only when that concrete user log in?
[15:22] <akik> PereP: no. rc.local is run as root
[15:23] <PereP> akik: will take a look at it - but currently I was reading something about start-stop-daemon after some googling...
[15:39] <ij> On 14.*, are the /etc/init.d/* scripts a sysvinit legacy thing or are those upstart services?
[15:40] <Southern_Gentlem> ij take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet
[15:50] <quard> hey, what's the current PGP key for ubuntu releases?
[15:50] <quard> Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key (2012) <cdimage@ubuntu.com>
[15:50] <quard> 4096 bit RSA key D94AA3F0EFE21092, created: 2012-05-11
[15:50] <quard> that one correct?
[15:52] <Tatou> What version of ubuntu should I use? I want to get more into devops for linux
[15:54] <baizon> Tatou: 16.04.02
[15:54] <baizon> Tatou: 16.04.2
[15:54] <emachines> MORTAL ZUMO
[15:54] <Tatou> baizon: Is the systemd stuff or whatver not totally different?
[15:55] <OerHeks> quard, a howto , i think the key deiffers per iso .. : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto#Obtain_the_public_key_from_the_Ubuntu_key_server
[15:56] <emachines> HOLA QUIEN ESTA O SOY EL UNICO
[15:56] <OerHeks> Tatou, would you like to devops old stuff that is going away? use 14.04, or if you want to join the systemd train, use 16.04
[15:56] <Pici> !es | emachines
[15:56] <Tatou> OerHeks: Is it definitely here to stay then?
[15:56] <OerHeks> Tatou, untill firther notice .. YES
[15:56] <OerHeks> c/further
[15:57] <Tatou> OerHeks: How awkward. Is it a big change?
[15:57] <OerHeks> Tatou, yes, i think so
[15:59] <quard> OerHeks, seems to be this one: C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632  CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451
[16:00] <quard> yep, I'm getting a good signature from that key.
[16:00] <quard> ty
[16:00] <OerHeks> quard, have fun :-)
[16:02] <moracabanas1> hi, where is the path of binary compressed kernel in Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:03] <nacc> moracabanas1: that doesn't make sense -- it's whatever you tell the bootloader
[16:05] <dexter_> ???
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> dexter_: can we help you?
[16:05] <dexter_> i am new to ubuntu
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> dexter_: welcome, you joined the ubuntu support channel
[16:12] <hitman1> How to make ssh available to other user ?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> hitman1: the #openssh guys might know that one?
[16:14] <Pici> hitman1: if the other user has an account on your system, then they can use ssh.
[16:16] <octo8> hello, i want to know the biggest 30 folder sizes in my linux vps, using 'du -sh' ... any suggestions?
[16:16] <moracabanas1> hey nacc I asked you yesterday about making live custom Ubuntu and I have it done but I need to change the vmlinuz.efi replaced by a compresed image file for the new kernel and I can't find it on the path suggested
[16:17] <Pici> hitman1: please keep the questions in the channel.  root is not allowed to ssh in by default, and you should keep it that way.  ssh in as a user, and then use sudo to gain root privleges.
[16:18] <hitman1> Pici I will use his account not root one
[16:18] <hitman1> I want to access my friend's terminal (root user). What is the command he needs to type to make ssh available for me ?
[16:18] <OerHeks> octo8, baobab can show that
[16:18] <OerHeks> !info baobab
[16:18] <Pici> hitman1: do you have an account on his server yet?
[16:19] <hitman1> Pici, he is not using server he is using normal os.
[16:19] <hitman1> No I don't have account
[16:19] <OerHeks> octo8, or something like this> du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 30  # for the 30 largest folders in /var/
[16:19] <hitman1> Pici, I need to make some changes on my friend's PC
[16:20] <Pici> hitman1: sudo adduser hitman   (or whatever you want to call yourself), then follow the prompts
[16:21] <hitman1> Pici after creating accout ?
[16:21] <hitman1> *account
[16:22] <EriC^^> hitman1: he has to have openssh-server installed too
[16:22] <Pici> hitman1: if you need to have sudo access, run: sudo adduser hitman sudo
[16:22] <yohello> Hi! What is the differencet between ctl+v and the middle mouse button in pasting copied text? I've notice they don't work the same and it's super confusing
[16:22] <PaoloP> ioria Wirehunter, with the network connection all went ok
[16:22] <PaoloP> thnks
[16:22] <hitman1> after installing openssh-server and making account
[16:22] <hitman1> which command ?
[16:23] <Pici> hitman1: for what?
[16:23] <EriC^^> yohello: ctrl+v is the clipboard, the middle mouse is the highlighted clipboard
[16:23] <ioria> PaoloP, good job
[16:23] <hitman1> to make the connection available for me
[16:23] <yohello> EriC^^: oh so when I do ctrl+v it pastes whatever was copied with ctrl+c, but the middle mouse button only pastes what was highlighted?
[16:24] <Azulflame> yohello, what DE are you using?
[16:24] <Pici> hitman1: if the computer is behind a router, you'll need to port forward port 22 from the router to that computer. Otherwise you don't need to do anything else.
[16:24] <yohello> Azulflame: what what? I'm on Ubuntu 16.10
[16:24] <hitman1> Yes it is behind router
[16:24] <EriC^^> yohello: yeah
[16:25] <Pici> !portforward | hitman1
[16:25] <EriC^^> yohello: also shift+insert does the same as middle mouse
[16:25] <yohello> EriC^^: thank you :)
[16:25] <yohello> EriC^^: good to know!
[16:25] <EriC^^> yohello: no problem! :)
[16:25] <octo8> OerHeks: .. i'm using du -h | sort -h | tail -n 20
[16:27] <OerHeks> octo8, that works too, less detailed and just for the 20 biggest folders
[16:27] <Azulflame> what would I need to use to finish an alias with an escape character?  $ alias real='/sample/alias/text\\' ?
[16:27] <octo8> OerHeks: you should use tail not head
[16:28] <OerHeks> octo8, depends how you sort them
[16:29] <kus_ubuntui686> so when I copy something and I go to paste it in the terminal, i get something else. I paste it in the address bar in firefox I get what I want but when I paste it in the terminal I get the wrong thing. So usually I end up doing the wrong thing
[16:29] <kus_ubuntui686> so I need to copy something, paste it in firefox address bar, copy it again and then paste it in terminal. what am I doing wrong?
[16:29] <kus_ubuntui686> why are there two clipboards?
[16:30] <OerHeks> in terminal, ctrl shift + v
[16:30] <kus_ubuntui686> but what is shift insert?
[16:31] <OerHeks> the terminal is protected, one should not easily copy stuff in that.
[16:31] <OerHeks> shift insert is the buffer from your mouse
[16:34] <Pici> kus_ubuntui686: it is stupid, but its sort of a legacy thing that doesn't make sense in today's usage. There are a number of clipboard managers out there that can sync between the two clipboards reducing confusion of what will be pasted.
[16:37] <kus_ubuntui686> :(
[16:38] <PereP> sunkist & akik: I've found that start-stop-daemon --start -u my_user --pdfile /var/run/name_of_process --exec path/to/script.sh, put in an script inside /etc/init.d and enabled with systemctl does the job
[16:41] <Trozz> does anyone use SSSD for AD auth?
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> Trozz: best way to get your issue solved is to ask your specific story, with all details to the channel
[16:44] <Trozz> well I am using SSSD for AD auth, we are using ocserv for VPN and it doesn't always appear to check SSSD, I am seeing it check PAM_unix get the auth failure and then simply return the failure instead of trying SSSD, if I restart the service then for a few requests will use PAM_sss (SSSD) and then will begin to simply use pam_unix again
[16:44] <hitman1> Why ubuntu when used in virtual box I always get resource temporary unavailable - dpkg lock error ?
[16:45] <k1l_> hitman1: you can only run on package management tool at once. if the updater runs in the background its locked
[16:45] <OerHeks> hitman1, if you have synaptic or softwarecenter open too, or there are updates pending..
[16:46] <OerHeks> and "allways" i don't believe
[16:46] <hitman1> I get all the time even no other process is using lock
[16:46] <hitman1> I get it even when i type very 1st command
[16:47] <k1l_> hitman1: can you put the full output of "sudo apt update" to paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here?
[16:48] <hitman1> blob:https://web.whatsapp.com/c849197a-fbcb-401b-aebc-7c829fc8ce49
[16:48] <OerHeks> no whatsapp please :-(
[16:49] <hitman1> https://ibb.co/nooRva - even when I am creating new account
[16:50] <nacc> hitman1: you need to use sudo.
[16:50] <nacc> hitman1: as k1l_ just said
[16:50] <nacc> !sudo | hitman1
[16:51] <hitman1> https://ibb.co/fkjAMF
[16:51] <hitman1> !https://ibb.co/fkjAMF
 sunkist & akik: I've found that start-stop-daemon --start -u my_user --pdfile /var/run/name_of_process --exec path/to/script.sh, put in an script inside /etc/init.d and enabled with systemctl does the job  [16:51] <k1l_> hitman1: a new user account is not related to that issue at all
[16:52] <OerHeks> hitman1,  run updates first. that might be the lock here..
[16:52] <pvl1> nacc: i just wanted to say thanks about the order of compiling headers thing yesterday. making progress compiling a driver for a device =]
[16:52] <k1l_> hitman1: please show the output of "mount"
[16:52] <hitman1> I want to say that If I am trying to do anything I was getting this lock error.
 <sunkist> <akik> thank you to you all; will look again another day to my working solution and compare it with your suggestions, as I don't feel it's the smartest way, but my head is about to explode now xD
[16:53] <Azulflame> hitman1, are you running apt-get as sudo?
[16:53] <hitman1> yes
[16:53] <hitman1> k1l_, I can't upload more images
[16:53] <k1l_> hitman1: please run "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[16:53] <PereP> bye ;)
[16:53] <Azulflame> hitman1, have you rebooted the VM yet?
[16:53] <k1l_> hitman1: and run "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:54] <hitman1> Azuldlame, yes
[16:54] <nacc> pvl1: np
[16:54] <hitman1> Azulflame
[16:55] <nacc> hitman1: use a pastebin and not pictures, so we can see the command as well
[16:56] <Azulflame> and if you can't scroll the VM, then just "apt-get command > output.txt" and upload the file
[16:56] <k1l_> i already gave him the proper commands to upload the text.
[16:58] <nacc> right, it has network, so pastebinit or nc will work
[17:01] <summakor> Hello - is the right place to confirm a simple bug? having trouble dragging files around in Nautilus in 17.04 beta
[17:01] <k1l_> summakor: #ubuntu+1 for the alpha/beta releases
[17:01] <summakor> Cool, thanks
[17:12] <tapanik> hello from finland (eu-land)
[17:12] <tapanik> ubuntu 16.04
[17:13] <k1l_> hi
[17:14] <quard> hey, what's the difference between "apt-get install <somepackage>" and "apt install <somepackage>"?
[17:14] <ducasse> quard: -get :)
[17:14] <quard> I've noticed the latter is being used more often lately
[17:14] <nacc> quard: apt is a newer implementation/tool -- recommended going forward
[17:14] <tapanik> 16 gig ram , ubuntu uses only 4gb :D
[17:14] <quard> ok, so I should s/apt-get/apt/g
[17:15] <k1l_> quard: apt is the new apt-get. its grouping apt-get apt-cache etc to one command
[17:16] <tapanik> if i use some gfx software then i need more memory than 4 gig
[17:17] <nacc> tapanik: ubuntu (linux) will use as much RAM as it needs to (do you mean your ubuntu only sees 4g?)
[17:17] <k1l_> tapanik:  what do you meant with "it only uses 4gb"?
[17:17] <tapanik> 2016 i tested windows 10 and playing games
[17:17] <tapanik> ubuntu see 16 gig :)
[17:17] <tapanik> only uses, light use
[17:17] <k1l_> that is not an issue :)
[17:17] <nacc> tapanik: so?
[17:17] <tapanik> no :P
[17:18] <tapanik> 3 weeks using ubuntu
[17:18] <nacc> tapanik: this is the support channel, do you have an issue you need help with?
[17:18] <Tatou> What is the preferred hdd encryption method on ubuntu 16?
[17:18] <yasma> hi
[17:18] <tapanik> sometimes logitech bluetooth speakers turn off, but i use jack 3,5" now
[17:19] <tapanik> pulse audio ok
[17:19] <tapanik> alsamixer
[17:19] <tapanik> etc
[17:19] <yasma> have site that get me private key?
[17:19] <tapanik> ubuntu works like dream, bluetooth sound issues only
[17:20] <k1l_> Tatou: ubuntu installer supports LUKS.
[17:20] <yasma> i want get a private key for me
[17:20] <k1l_> !luks | Tatou
[17:20] <Tatou> k1l_: That's fine then :)
[17:20] <ducasse> yasma: private key for what?
[17:20] <yasma> for firefox
[17:20] <tapanik> if i got some issues, i ask
[17:21] <tapanik> good channel
[17:21] <k1l_> yasma: there is no need for a private key.
[17:22] <quard> Tatou: cryptsetup -v -c aes-xts-plain64:sha512 -h sha512 -s 512 -y --use-random -i 5000 luksFormat /dev/sdX
[17:22] <quard> I use that line for manual setups
[17:22] <tapanik> this levono laptop with 2 GPU, ubuntu uses intel (prosessor) native
[17:22] <tapanik> amd radeon drivers i  found
[17:23] <tapanik> for linux
[17:23] <Tatou> quard: I'll do it during install. Otherwise I was going to script it
[17:25] <quard> I reckon GRUB2 also supports /boot encryption, but you'd probably have to install it manually. The ubiquity installer fails.
[17:25] <yasma> I need a private key for personal use.for use my mail claint (thunderbird)
[17:25] <ducasse> yasma: you mean a gpg key?
[17:26] <yasma> yes .for thunderbird
[17:26] <ducasse> yasma: https://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/
[17:27] <ioria> yasma, also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Thunderbird
[17:28] <yasma> ok ,thanks
[17:28] <Streetwitch> Does anyone know how to indent / de-indent multiple lines on the command line using nano, or some other editor?
[17:29] <ioria> Streetwitch, alt + } iirc
[17:30] <Streetwitch> ioria: Could you put that into english?
[17:30] <ioria> Streetwitch, alt + {  de-indent
[17:30] <Streetwitch> Ahh ok
[17:30] <Streetwitch> I'll try
[17:30] <ioria> Streetwitch, iirc (if i remember correctly)
[17:31] <Streetwitch> what is iirc?
[17:31] <ioria> Streetwitch, ^
[17:31] <Streetwitch> Yes it is working.
[17:31] <Streetwitch> But how do I select multiple lines?
[17:34] <MasterScript> what is diffrent bettwen create Virtual Machines and create Containers ?
[17:35] <ioria> Streetwitch, ctrl+al+6
[17:35] <k1l_> MasterScript: virtualmachines and containers are different setups
[17:36] <MasterScript> which one for create a new VPS?
[17:36] <ioria> Streetwitch, you'll see 'Mark Set' and press again 'MArk Unset'
[17:37] <Streetwitch> ioria: I can't get it to work
[17:37] <Streetwitch> press ctrl + allt + 6  ?
[17:37] <ioria> Streetwitch,  so you set the starting point, then you move the cursor to the end of the block
[17:37] <ioria> Streetwitch,  yes
[17:37] <Streetwitch> This is nano?
[17:37] <ioria> Streetwitch,  yes
[17:38] <MasterScript> which one for create a new VPS? virtualmachines or containers  ?
[17:38] <Streetwitch> It tells me "unknown command"
[17:38] <k1l_> MasterScript: that is your decision
[17:38] <k1l_> MasterScript: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/virtualization.html
[17:38] <nacc> MasterScript: i assume it depens on your VPS provider and your workload's needs
[17:38] <ioria> Streetwitch,  when the block is selected you use  alt+{ or } to add or remove indentations
[17:38] <Streetwitch> alt-a gives me mark set
[17:39] <Streetwitch> how do I finish the alt-a command?
[17:39] <ioria> Streetwitch, weird... ok move the cursor to the end of the block
[17:40] <Streetwitch> Yes?
[17:40] <ioria> Streetwitch, ah, when you press ctrl+alt+6 the cursor should be at the beginning of the block
[17:40] <Streetwitch> Yes, but it doesn't work
[17:41] <ioria> Streetwitch, if the block is selected, then you use alt+} to add indent
[17:41] <MasterScript> k1l_: i have a dedicated server, i want create a VPS. i am not sure which one create VM or cretae containers
[17:41] <Streetwitch> Nothing happens
[17:42] <nacc> MasterScript: you want to be a VPS hoster?
[17:42] <Streetwitch> Wait it works
[17:42] <Streetwitch> ty
[17:42] <ioria> Streetwitch,  tricky, hu
[17:48] <ducasse> MasterScript: the link k1l_ sent you should be a good place to start reading so you can figure out what best suit your needs.
[17:58] <Streetwitch> Can anyone tell me how to replace tabs with spaces in ubunut?
[18:00] <PipeItToDevNull> Streetwitch, I believe that would be up to the editor
[18:01] <subodh> hi
[18:02] <SanaZ> Hello kind sir
[18:03] <subodh> quit
[18:03] <phablet> Hey, i'm new here... how do i join the channel for ubuntu touch?
[18:03] <subodh> no
[18:03] <k1l_> phablet: /join #ubuntu-touch
[18:04] <padhu> Hi Ubuntians, My AMD Radion 6670 is not functioning in Ubuntu 16.04
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !amd | padhu
[18:08] <Streetwitch> Can anyone tell me how to indent with spaces using nano?
[18:08] <padhu> lotuspsychje: AMD
[18:08] <Streetwitch> Someone just explained it to me, but it uses tabs
[18:11] <kaleem-pirzada> hi help needed about RedShift plugin,
[18:11] <kaleem-pirzada> It doesnt save my location, everytime I need internet to detect location
[18:14] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: Because it might uses internet/ip for detecting its location, not GPS or a saved setting.
[18:15] <kaleem-pirzada> bekks: But how to save its location
[18:15] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: Maybe its not possible to do so?
[18:16] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: Whats the underlying problem you are trying to solve?
[18:16] <kaleem-pirzada> bekks: may be so.... I want the redshift to work normally at night time even if sometimes I am not connected to internet
[18:19] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: Try running "redshift -l list" and then select another location source by using e.g.: "redshift -l gnome-clock"
[18:19] <kaleem-pirzada> bekks: Ok, I will try
[18:20] <kaleem-pirzada> bekks: It show GEOCLUE2 and MANUAL
[18:21] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: Did you see the section about the configuration file?: http://jonls.dk/redshift/
[18:27] <kaleem-pirzada> bekks: Thankyou, it worked by setting to gnome-clock
[18:28] <bekks> kaleem-pirzada: You're welcome
[18:28] <bivo> lost password recovery on 16.10 with an encrypted install wont work, tried mounting as writable as per the instructions here https://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password I put the new password in at the login prompt and the screen flashes black and returns to the login prompt with a blank text entry box, however inputting a random string into the password box shows the proper incorrect password notifi
[18:34] <blackflow> bivo: can you log in with new password in text only mode? (aka "runlevel 3" don't know how it's called nowadays)
[18:35] <bivo> blackflow I haven't tried
[18:36] <dhanushesushi> from india
[18:37] <deowna> hi
[18:37] <deowna> Who is on
[18:37] <Southern_Gentlem> 1st
[18:37] <padhu> deowna: what you want?
[18:38] <Azulflame> blackflow, do you mean in a console? (Control+Alt+F[1-7]
[18:39] <immu_> MustaKrakish:  hi buddy
[18:39] <blackflow> Azulflame: that too I guess yeah
[18:39] <Azulflame> if you set a password using "passwd user", it'll be available for new logins immediatly
[18:39] <Azulflame> but shouldn't kick you off if you are already logged in
[18:40] <Azulflame> so you can set your password to 'hunter2', change console and log in immediatly using 'hunter2'
[18:42] <blackflow> Azulflame: this is about resetting password from recovery boot mode, which means the user is rebooting back into default mode
[18:43] <Azulflame> I'm assumming you aren't the person above trying to reset it on an encrypted install
[18:43] <blackflow> Azulflame: nope, bivo is
[18:44] <Azulflame> but once you've got a root shell, mount and cd your way to the Linux root, and mount any appropriate folders (/dev/sdXY to /home, etc) if needed
[18:44] <Azulflame> then $ chroot .
[18:44] <Azulflame> sorry, # chroot .
[18:44] <Azulflame> and # passwd <your username>
[18:44] <Azulflame> and reset your password
[18:45] <Azulflame> then you're good to exit chroot, reboot, and login
[18:45] <Azulflame> of course, this assumes you have a root bash shell, and chroot installed on the host system (Not your hard drive that you're resetting the password on)
[18:46] <moracabanas1> Hi I need to convert initrd.img to .lz for custom Ubuntu 16.04 live cd. I follow official tutorial but it replaces the initrd.ils with .img one and Ubuntu is expecting .lv
[18:46] <Azulflame> moracabanas1, for bootloader or for a live image?
[18:46] <moracabanas1> for a live cd image
[18:47] <Azulflame> do you have a windows PC?
[18:47] <moracabanas1> both Ubuntu VM and Windows
[18:47] <Azulflame> using Windows (since Ubuntu can't dd them properly sometimes), use Win32DiskImager, select your flash drive, select the .img file, and burn them
[18:47] <Azulflame> the .img needs to be burned onto the flash drive / cd, not just placed on it
[18:50] <moracabanas1> @Azulflame sorry I know how to burn the Live img. I am modifing the live cd kernel and to do so I change the vmlinuz.efi and initrd.lz but my custom kernel initrd is in img and I need it in .lz
[18:51] <Azulflame> that I can't help you with. Good luck finding someone who does
[18:52] <crCr62U0> Hello
[18:52] <Azulflame> sup crCr62U0
[18:52] <moracabanas1> @Azulflame Thanks you so much anyway :)
[18:52] <crCr62U0> I've deleted /etc/nginx folder, but i have one before. apt-get install --reinstall nginx Doesn't help
[18:53] <crCr62U0> am i right that i should force apt-get to rewrite package folder in /etc?
[18:53] <nacc> moracabanas1: you are making this all rather complicated. Just change the bootloader config on your live USB to point to the correct files
[18:54] <nacc> moracabanas1: in any case, the ubuntu initrds are gzipped. You would need to gunzip them and then compress it to whatever you need (what is .lz, do you mean .lzma?)
[18:54] <nacc> moracabanas1: ah, lzip?
[18:56] <crCr62U0> ty for useless support.
[18:56] <moracabanas1> @nacc don't know about the extension. The "casper" folder contains kernel in vmlinuz.efi and initrd.lz. I am following the official customization guide who suggest to cp your kernel overwritting those files and it doesnt work
[18:56] <ioria> crCr62U0, what's the problem ?
[18:57] <marty__> hello
[18:57] <blackflow> ioria: impatience, it seems. :)
[18:57] <ioria> blackflow, hehehe
[18:57] <moracabanas1> @nacc as you can see at live cd kernel section here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization it doesn't make sense
[18:58] <sheap> what day does precise go EOL?
[18:58] <ioria> !precise
[18:59] <sheap> I'm aware that it's april
[18:59] <sheap> but april is not a day
[18:59] <blackflow> crCr62U0: never had to do it myself so I can't say from personal experience, but quick googling yields this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[18:59] <blackflow> crCr62U0: I suppose step 3 is all you need since you know the package
[18:59] <marty__> im running about 700 mb ram and a pentium 4 processor, on my project computer and im curious as the recommended version of ubuntu, kinda hoping for reasonable network drivers to start
[19:00] <marty__> ?
[19:00] <nacc> moracabanas1: what do you mean it doesen't make sense? copy your files over the ones in the extract-cd
[19:00] <crCr62U0> i love ubuntu.
[19:00] <nacc> moracabanas1: i feel like if you are not willing to learn/understand about filetypes, then building a live usb may not be the right choice ...
[19:01] <ducasse> sheap: the 28th, iirc
[19:01] <nacc> moracabanas1: saying 'it doens't work' and not giving any details makes it impossible to help
[19:01] <sheap> ducasse: is there some announcement about that? the releases/eol pages just says april
[19:01] <ioria> sheap, Ubuntu 12.04 will reach end of life on Friday, April 28th
[19:01] <nacc> sheap: yes, on the ubuntu-announce list
[19:02] <ioria> sheap, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2017/03/15/ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-reaches-end-of-life-on-april-28-2017/
[19:02] <moracabanas1> @nacc but if I overwritte my custom initrd is .img and booting into liveCD tells me about missing initrd.lz. Kernel panic if i rename it .img->lz because can't uncompress lz becaise it's img. So i need to uncompress .img and recompress it as lzip. isn't it?
[19:02] <sheap> seems like a useful thing to put on the EOL page instead of going through mailing lists
[19:04] <moracabanas1> @nacc sorry if you feel I haven't given details. If I put initrd as .img ERROR says wating for initrd.lz
[19:04] <nacc> sheap: i'll update the wiki
[19:04] <nacc> moracabanas1: ok, then uncompress and recompress as it expect it
[19:04] <nacc> *expects
[19:07] <moracabanas1> @nacc Thanks you so much (as no one but you helped me). I will give it a try. 2 days here and I can't understant nothing about linux because outdated documentation. Frustration
[19:08] <sheap> nacc: thanks
[19:09] <vlammer> any wireshark users here?
[19:10] <nacc> moracabanas1: it feels like you've picked a particularly challenging way to learn about ubuntu :)
[19:10] <nacc> moracabanas1: most people don't ever need to mess with custom live usb
[19:13] <nacc> sheap: i have the edit queued up, but i'm making sure the release team is ok with it before saving
[19:14] <sheap> nacc: ty. I'll eagerly refresh until I see it
[19:16] <daku_> Anyone here used ClearOS?
[19:18] <bekks> daku_: People in here use Ubuntu, usually.
[19:19] <Didact69> I use soap
[19:23] <ducasse> daku_: i can't see how that relates to ubuntu at all, try ##linux maybe.
[19:25] <Didact69> anyone know of a bug that didn't allow vino to work on ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[19:25] <Didact69> gnome
[19:26] <hoijui> i upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, and now it ends in busybox at boot. when i use "lvm; vgchange -a y; exit; exit", it then boots fine
[19:26] <hoijui> i have a mirror MD raid and LVM on top of that
[19:26] <Didact69> I'm loaded uubuntu on a SSD about 6 months ago as I wanted to switch from fedora but I couldn't get the remote desktop to work and gave up, and am now being forced to upgrade
[19:26] <hoijui> what can i do to not have ot repeat these steps at every boot?
[19:27] <hoijui> (ps, i get no errors)
[19:29] <ioria> Didact69, is it running bynow ?
[19:29] <EriC^^> hoijui: not sure, some ideas maybe update-initramfs -u -k all , and maybe add a rootdelay=<something> to grub?
[19:29] <ioria> Didact69, ps -A | grep vino
[19:30] <hoijui> thanks EriC^^, will try! :-)
[19:31] <EriC^^> hoijui: no problem :)
[19:38] <ghettocole> Ghettocole
[19:40] <ghettocole> #ubuntu
[19:40] <kapil> guys how to install open office ?
[19:42] <guest31334> kapil: goto openoffice.org, grab the .deb package
[19:42] <hc12345> how can i add auth/username/pw to download from private ppa from ubuntu command line
[19:42] <ducasse> kapil: ubuntu has libreoffice in the repos
[19:42] <guest31334> kapil: openoffice or libreoffice lol
[19:43] <hc12345> the private ppa only has signing key and fingerprint
[19:43] <kapil> open office.
[19:44] <guest31334> kapil: grab the .deb from openoffice.org/download/index.html
[19:44] <guest31334> then thru your terminal, navigate to the download dir, and do 'sudo dpkg -i [pkgname]'
[19:46] <flash_problem> I followed instructions from this page >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/748629/how-to-install-pepper-flash and installed the plugin...THen logged out/in but its not appearing in Chromium's extension menu
[19:46] <flash_problem> Oh dear… You have no extensions :-( Want to browse the Chrome Web Store instead?
[19:52] <Guest34> hi, i suddenly have an issue with i think apache on ubuntu. a particular POST is converted to a GET before it enters our application. I can see 2 entries in the apache log but only one in my (PHP) application log.
[19:52] <Didact69> ioria: sorry, the ubuntu isn't up it's my gateway to the internet
[19:53] <hunyadi8> hi
[19:53] <Guest34> those apache log entries are POST and followed by GET
[19:53] <prashanta_> hello
[19:53] <nebo> hi
[19:53] <Didact69> as I recall the interface wouldn't let the remote desktop feature to work
[19:54] <thereyougo> by the way anyone feel charitable today ?
[19:55] <nebo> Здравствуйте
[19:55] <thereyougo> I want to get shell account on sdf.org and it only cost $1 but I don't have means to pay online, so can someone send them $1 worth of bitcoins for me ?
[19:55] <Didact69> I'm thinking I'll hook the cable modem to this machine directly while I try and diagnose the issue
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !ru | nebo
[19:55] <hoijui> aha... EriC^^, that did not help, but i checked what vgchange-u all does
[19:55] <Didact69> but it will be tomorrow
[19:55] <hoijui> it generqates new random uuid
[19:55] <hoijui> so.. that is all, so i guess there is an UUID problem
[19:55] <Mead> what text editor comes with ubuntu? and if there is more than one, which is the best to write scripts with?
[19:55] <guest31334> gedit
[19:56] <thereyougo> Mead: vim
[19:56] <tomreyn> thereyougo: this channel is only about ubuntu support. attempts to get anonymous shell access should be posted elsewhere.
[19:56] <hoijui> somewhere, in some config file, wrong ones are listed maybe?
[19:56] <nebo> @ubottu Спасибо
[19:56] <guest31334> mead: gedit is default, use sublime if you prefer graphical, vim if you prefer term-based
[19:57] <thereyougo> Mead: you can use Notepad++ with wine
[19:57] <OerHeks> !ide
[19:57] <rogier> hello
[19:57] <Mead> wine is best on pizza, and like windows apps are best on windows :P
[19:57] <Mead> err
[19:57] <Mead> with pizza
[19:57] <OerHeks> Notepad++ with wine is called trolling
[19:57] <guest31334> lol wine
[19:58] <guest31334> just to run text editor
[20:00] <PipeItToDevNull> notepadqq is a clone that runs natively
[20:02] <Mead> ok after I've typed in a script (go one from a webpage) where do I save it?
[20:02] <Mead> err got one
[20:04] <OerHeks> no instructions on that webpage?
[20:05] <Mead> heh, I'm not doing hello world,   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Ensuring_that_the_groups_are_valid
[20:06] <OerHeks> hmm, not ubuntu
[20:06] <Mead> it's basic stuff thou
[20:06] <de-facto> hmm how can i prevent nautilus from automounting? i already tried to disable in dconf without success. also why wont i get to tty consiles witl ctrl alt f1-10?
[20:07] <Mead> I'm using ubuntu,  but just using that guide to muddle though this IOMMU stuff
[20:07] <guest31334> de-factor: you in vm?
[20:08] <guest31334> de-facto: you in vm*
[20:08] <de-facto> nope
[20:09] <de-facto> in dconf org->gnome->desktop->media-handling->automount and automount-open is without effect
[20:09] <de-facto> i set both to false, yet nautilus insists on automounting, which i DONT want it to do
[20:11] <omenius> nautilus is easy, not so much "pro" if you can say so
[20:12] <omenius> I have little crush with cli file managers right now after I tried bunch of good ones
[20:12] <OerHeks> de-facto, logout/login perhaps?
[20:14] <de-facto> OerHeks, i noticed it seems to be disabled from the gdm login screen, but once i logged in it seems to work
[20:14] <de-facto> thats new
[20:21] <mschuett> does anyone know why rootfs shows up in /proc/mounts in the 3.x kernel but in the 4.x kernel it only shows the actual device that is mounted.
[20:23] <bivo> blackflow sorry it took so long to reply, yes, I can log in via text mode
[20:26] <vivekp> i'm new around here
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> !support | vivekp
[20:26] <vivekp> need a little help with my system?
[20:27] <izzno> anyone know what happened to /etc/default/lxd-bridge in 17.04
[20:28] <k1l_> izzno: either ask in #ubuntu+1 for 17.04 or in #lxcontainers for lxd issues
[20:28] <FiveTwo> can someone help me with ubuntu MATE?
[20:28] <izzno> sure, thanks.
[20:28] <vivekp> I ran a resource intensive python script and now my swap space (8 GB) is full. I've tried rebooting but no help
[20:29] <k1l_> vivekp: reboot would clean out swap.
[20:29] <blackflow> bivo: then it'd be wise to check the journal for any errors, maybe related to logind, or dbus
[20:29] <vivekp> Is there a way to flush it or something
[20:29] <vivekp> For some reason it didn't
[20:29] <k1l_> vivekp: can you show a "free -m" in a pastebin?
[20:29] <FiveTwo> after installing ubuntu my computer doesn't detect an OS
[20:30] <vivekp> okay, hold on
[20:30] <FiveTwo> there is no secureboot option
[20:30] <FiveTwo> or legacy
[20:30] <FiveTwo> help?
[20:30] <FiveTwo> it seemed to install fine
[20:31] <izzno> FiveTwo, look for EFI options. You may have to specify ubuntu ...
[20:31] <izzno> in BIOS
[20:31] <FiveTwo> how?
[20:31] <FiveTwo> efi options?
[20:31] <FiveTwo> hmm
[20:31] <FiveTwo> ok
[20:32] <FiveTwo> thanks
[20:32] <FiveTwo> cause i've come from arch linux
[20:32] <FiveTwo> and not comfortable with debian yet
[20:32] <FiveTwo> :)
[20:33] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:34] <izzno> FiveTwo, you can usually specify whay EFI boots in the BIOS. (Did you make sure to install the bootloader on /dev/sda?) If not you might not have GRUB in the right place.
[20:37] <vivekp> k1l_: https://pastebin.com/CfGsEViK
[20:39] <k1l_> vivekp: hmm, that output doesnt make sense :) used 4G, free 8G, of 8G total
[20:39] <orogor> hi
[20:40] <orogor> i un lxde , i upgraded to yaketty and cant  find the power management settings anymore
[20:40] <k1l_> vivekp: the numbers of mem dont make sense, too. are you sure the system is ok?
[20:40] <orogor> i d like to disable screen blaning
[20:41] <vivekp> i have no idea if it's ok but system monitor reading also look the same. This is bizarre
[20:41] <k1l_> vivekp: is that real hardware? or some vm/vps or such?
[20:42] <vivekp> it's a vm (ubuntu on ubuntu if that makes sense :))
[20:43] <user_> fuckmylife438374
[20:43] <k1l_> vivekp: you can use swapoff and then swapon again
[20:43] <user_> hi
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> user_: you might wanan change your password now
[20:44] <tomreyn> or your life style
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:44] <vivekp> i should probably start a new vm. It's worth my time atm but then need to spend some time on installing a bunch of stuff again
[20:45] <vivekp> k1l_, didn't try that. Thanks, let me check if that helps
[20:45] <said> salut
[20:45] <nacc> vivekp: can you pastebin `cat /proc/meminfo` ? I think that's wht free is using
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> !fr | Guest64072
[20:46] <Guest64072> hi
[20:51] <donofrio> anyone here user apaste.info?
[20:51] <k1l_> donofrio: you know this is the #ubuntu support
[20:52] <donofrio> k1l_, of course I've lurked here for years
[20:52] <tomreyn> vivekp: what kind of virtualization is this?
[20:52] <tim167> hi, I can zoom in on my screen using Alt+scroll, but is there a way to do that so that the zoom area does _not_ follow my mouse cursor?
[20:57] <renorton> hi
[20:57] <renorton> i'm new
[20:58] <renorton> can you advice me anything?
[20:58] <k1l_> renorton: ask a support question about ubuntu :)
[20:59] <renorton> oh
[21:00] <Guest83148> When I run a program from the command line how do I get back to the Shell prompt with the program still running?
[21:03] <OerHeks> Guest83148, add & to the command
[21:05] <izzno> Guest83148, run the program with & at the end...
[21:05] <OerHeks> man nohup
[21:07] <vivekp> Okay, so I dumped that vm. Can focus on other things now. Thanks o/
[21:09] <Guest29453> hi!
[21:10] <tomreyn> oh wow, it's Guest29453!
[21:13] <kenrin> Whats with all the Guest names ?
[21:14] <k1l_> freenode irc servers rename users to a guest..... nick, when the chosen nick is already taken by someone else.
[21:14] <compdoc> not that many
[21:14] <danst> is there a real person who got Skylake IGD passthroughed to a KVM guest?
[21:15] <compdoc> danst, ask in ##hardware
[21:15] <danst> thank you
[21:16] <rmotao> How do I install Eclipse Neon using apt-get?
[21:16] <rmotao> Eclipse Neon is version 4.6
[21:16] <rmotao> Ubuntu, by default, install Eclipse version 3.8
[21:17] <k1l_> !info eclipse
[21:17] <k1l_> !info eclipse zesty
[21:17] <kenrin> You install it manually from their website if you want a newer version or find a PPA
[21:17] <nacc> probably ask debian :)
[21:18] <nacc> in that it's an autosyncd package in universe right now
[21:18] <rmotao> I see
[21:19] <nacc> tere is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=831603 with no response
[21:19] <k1l_> looks like the eclipse maintainer fell asleep
[21:20] <Guest29453> tomreyn: yes?
[21:21] <Sambom> Hello, Is there a way to use the Disk-configuration guide from the Ubuntu Installation procedure later?...
[21:21] <tomreyn> Guest29453: yes!
[21:21] <k1l_> Sambom: what do you mean? can you explain a bit more?
[21:23] <Sambom> I used it to create a LVM and EXT4 partition, and I found it very simple and got a good overview.  I have the Ubuntu Server installed.
[21:26] <tomreyn> Sambom: maybe gparted would make you happy, but i'm not even sure whether it lets you configure lvm
[21:27] <tomreyn> it's better to just learn how to use the tools 'properly', namely froma command line. just run lvs and mkfs.ext4 with --help for starters, or read their man pages.
[21:27] <kenrin> The disks utility includes lvm
[21:28] <kenrin> Assuming he is on gnome|unity
[21:28] <tomreyn> oh that's graphical, too, right
[21:29] <Sambom> No Graphical UI, so thats why I asked for the semi-graphical UI from the installation... But Its OK, I'll do the commandline :)
[21:30] <tomreyn> i'm not aware of text graphics / ncurses frontend for this purpose
[21:30] <kenrin> There is not.  I just tested system-config-lvm to see what the interface looks like
[21:31] <rmotao> Do you have problem with Steam on Ubunt? After I installed it always show me a error messager after login on xfce
[21:32] <rmotao> I use XUBUNTU
[21:32] <testing__> In Feron OS where do I find the Terminal or Freon's equivalent?
[21:33] <k1l_> testing__: this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support. for other OS please ask their support
[21:34] <testing__> k1l_, This is where Hexchat goes by Default and Feron is Ubuntu based sao I guessed it was the right place to ask. No prob.
[21:35] <rmotao> on Ubuntu... where is the logs messages?
[21:35] <k1l_> rmotao: /var/log/ for most logs
[21:35] <k1l_> rmotao: or .xsession-errors in your home
[21:35] <kenrin> or journalctl
[21:35] <OerHeks> in /var/log/ would be pretty standard
[21:38] <rmotao> Thank you.
[21:42] <Tatou> ok, so ubuntu 16.10 and my mouse keeps jumping to the right
[21:42] <Tatou> What is going on?
[21:43] <ChaiTRex> Tatou: Are you on a laptop?
[21:44] <kangaroo72> Hello does someone now a channel for LSI/3Ware Controllers?
[21:45] <kangaroo72> I want to know, if an existing RAID-Setup from 9690 is working on 9650
[21:45] <nacc> !alis | kangaroo72
[21:45] <k1l_> kangaroo72: ##hardware ?
[21:45] <kangaroo72> ah ok
[21:45] <k1l_> Tatou: you can rule out mechanical issues?
[21:45] <kangaroo72> !alis lsi
[21:46] <nacc> kangaroo72: no, read the full help
[21:47] <nealshirelaptop> I can't seem to exit grep through SSH, I tried ctrl-c but nothing seems to be happening
[21:47] <Mead> ugh, I need some nuoob level help here
[21:48] <Bashing-om> !ask | Mead
[21:48] <nealshirelaptop> nvm "session closed by software abort" that explains why my keypresses do nothing
[21:48] <Mead> I've made a script saved in the name.sh format, how do I run it?
[21:49] <wedgie> Mead: chmod +x name.sh; ./name.sh
[21:49] <Younder> Mead, chmod +x nae.sh and the ./name.sh
[21:49] <PipeItToDevNull> XD
[21:49] <k1l_> Mead: ./name.sh    but you need to set it +x first
[21:49] <aaaa> hi
[21:50] <wedgie> Mead: but make sure that the script has a proper shebang first.
[21:50] <Mead> it is character for character from a webpage
[21:50] <Tatou> k1l_: Hmm. Let me check the bios.
[21:50] <wedgie> so?
[21:51] <k1l_> Tatou: or try with another OS or a live usb
[21:51] <Mead> hum no output
[21:51] <Tatou> k1l_: It's just started, I upgraded from 16.04 - > 0.10
[21:51] <wedgie> Mead: link to the script?
[21:51] <Mead> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Ensuring_that_the_groups_are_valid
[21:52] <nacc> Mead: if you have no valid IOMMU groups that won't print anything
[21:54] <rolandinirc> hihi
[21:56] <Mead> why would I have no valid IOMMU group though,  I know my system supports the feature https://pastebin.com/aB4N5fqP
[21:59] <kenrin> Mead: you probably have not set one up yet
[21:59] <nacc> Mead: can you pastebin the entire dmesg?
[22:00] <Mead> the entire output?  Like pages and pages of it?
[22:00] <nacc> Mead: yes `dmesg | pastebinit`
[22:00] <k1l_> Mead: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:00] <nacc> there are contextual lines missing after/before the greps
[22:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:01] <Mead> hehe, pastebinit is not installed
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Mead: yep not by default
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Mead: also you can just link people to pastebin stuff
[22:04] <Mead> I'm running ubuntu live investigating if I want to bother with messing with all these VMs
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Mead: I just joined here, what's your actsual issue ?
[22:06] <Mead> my issue?  I'm a nub trying to learn that is really the core of it.  long answer involves building VM guests with hardware access  to gpu and NICs for various things.
[22:06] <sebsebseb> Mead: whats your host os ?
[22:06] <sebsebseb> Windows ?
[22:07] <Mead> it will be a flavor of linux,  likely ubuntu server, but right now I am using ubuntu desktop live because server doesn't support running live from install media
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Mead: Ubuntu server what why?  and that really is for well servers, and  it has no graphical user interface as well
[22:08] <nacc> Mead: or maybe `sudo find /sys -name iommu_group`
[22:08] <nacc> Mead: looking into the kernel code, it shoudl be creating symlinkks if it prints the messages you showed
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Mead: I would suggest learning with UBuntu desktop, so Ubuntu and with a graphical user interface, you can get nicely into Linux that wya
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Mead: you can run servers from the desktop version as well
[22:08] <Mead> https://pastebin.com/tZ9NXeV9  <-  entire dmesg
[22:09] <k1l> ubuntu desktop and server share the same kernel and base system.
[22:09] <sebsebseb> Mead: ok that's a very long pastebin :d
[22:09] <nacc> Mead: looking, thatnks, that `find` command may hep too
[22:10] <nacc> *help
[22:10] <Mead> sebsebseb:  my objective is to  do all my work in a various guest OS's.
[22:11] <sebsebseb> k1l: UBUNTU server won't run Virtualbox?  or not so  easilly by deafult? I guess kvm or something?
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Mead: with which software? I think Virtualbox is out or pretty much for server :d since no graphical user interface usaully etc
[22:12] <nacc> sebsebseb: it's fine, we are trying to help Mead already, canyou take the chitchat somewhere else?
[22:12] <nacc> sebsebseb: not really helping right now, and i'd like to figure this out :)
[22:13] <sebsebseb> nacc: I joined late, missed some or a lot of this, that's ok, you help Mead
[22:13] <k1l> sebsebseb: virtualbox runs fine on ubuntu server. its really the exact same base system as the ubuntu desktop
[22:13] <sebsebseb> k1l: ok but a gui would have to be installed to run it?
[22:13] <nacc> sebsebseb: you can have guis on servers, if you want
[22:14] <sebsebseb> nacc: true
[22:14] <Mead> sebsebseb: I'm trying to virtualize a bunch of hosts to add to my network lab with hardware access to the interfaces so I can plug each one in to either a router or switch independantly.
[22:14] <k1l> sebsebseb: no. you would need something like phpvirtualbox or something else.
[22:14] <sebsebseb> k1l: oh ok
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Mead: ok
[22:15] <k1l> or you use ssh with xforward or such. there are many solutions
[22:15] <sebsebseb> ok
[22:17] <Mead> and when I'm not doing lab work I'm gonna want to play games on another guest OS (or two) with hardware access to gpu's.  SO I'm really trying to set up all kinds of crazy.  But this is how  I learn.
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Mead: uhmm generally 3D gaming does not work so welll in any virtual machine software!
[22:17] <nacc> Mead: GPU passthru is still pretty new (afaik)
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Mead: also vm's aren't really for gaming in general
[22:17] <k1l> sebsebseb: that is why he wants passtrhough his gpu etc.
[22:18] <nacc> Mead: and you have multiple GPUs, then?
[22:18] <sebsebseb>  nacc and experimental, and not so feature compelte, or mostly ok, well I guess Mead will find out either way :d
[22:18] <nacc> Mead: sorry mean to say , virtualized GPUs is still pretty new, passthru is what you'd have to do, but requires multiple physical cards
[22:18] <Mead> if it doesn't work that well, I could always just boot baremetal into windows.  So I'm not that concerned.
[22:19] <nacc> Mead: any luck getting that sysfs output?
[22:19] <Mead> nacc: what was the command again?
[22:19] <nacc> Mead: `sudo find /sys -name iommu_group`
[22:19] <sebsebseb> nacc: I can understand for like servers cloud etc, differnet guest oses,  but for gaming as well, not so much,  pshycall install shoud be way better for gaming
[22:20] <Mead> yeah,  do I need to pastebin it for you too?
[22:20] <nacc> sebsebseb: if the virtualization is working, that shoudln't be true
[22:20] <nacc> sebsebseb: depends on the configuration of course
[22:20] <sebsebseb> Mead:  nacc  last message was meant to go to Mead
[22:20] <nacc> Mead: yes plese
[22:21] <k1l> sebsebseb: tbh, that sidetalk is very disturbing. you raised your concerns but the user wants to solve that technical issue he asked for in the first place
[22:21] <Mead> https://pastebin.com/PEe8Vzhk
[22:22] <nacc> Mead: ok, those should be symlinks, can you `readlink` on one of them and pastebin the output?
[22:22] <nacc> Mead: note that measn the iommu groups are working :)
[22:23] <Mead> readlink?
[22:23] <nacc> Mead: yes, it's a command to read where a symlink points
[22:24] <nacc> Mead: e.g., `readlink /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/iommu_group`
[22:25] <Mead> ok, give me a second,  I'm IRC'ing from a second system and can't cut/paste from it into terminal
[22:25] <nacc> Mead: doesn't that one have network?
[22:25] <nacc> Mead: use netcat or pastebinit
[22:26] <Mead> pastebinit isn't installed in this live boot :P
[22:27] <dar123> here guyz, i am having an outage right now. My server ran out of disk space, i deleted lots of stuff and have 500M free now
[22:27] <nacc> Mead: so install it?
[22:27] <k1l> then pipe it to nc termbin.com 9999 like i showed you before
[22:27] <nacc> Mead: or that --^
[22:27] <dar123> but i still keep getting msg 'cannot create tmp file for here-document'
[22:28] <omenius> can I get word shortest explanation of what pastebinit is? Sounds handy, does it have cli version?
[22:28] <omenius> *word=world
[22:28] <sebsebseb> omenius: a program to do pastebin without having to go to the site
[22:29] <xar-> it would have been easier to google it, rather than ask >_>
[22:29] <sebsebseb> xar-: maybe
[22:29] <k1l> !google
[22:30] <xar-> no, definitely. he typed 17 words, pastebinit is 1. >_>
[22:30] <Bashing-om> dar123: Show the channel in a pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ' . See what we can see .
[22:30] <k1l> xar-: if you dont want to read and answer questions then this support channel is the wrong channel for you.
[22:30] <xar-> Also ubottu is irrelevant, I didn't tell him to google it, rather suggested it would be faster.
[22:30] <Mead> ok, so it gives me output like ../../../kernal/iommu_groups/4
[22:31] <nacc> !pastebinit | omenius
[22:32] <nacc> Mead: ah ok, can you run `find /sys/kernel/iommu_groups` ?
[22:32] <omenius> thanks guys, very cool tool (:
[22:33] <dar123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24277575/
[22:33] <k1l> dar123: check if there are old kernels and old kernel headers still installed
[22:34] <k1l> dar123: that is an easy way to get inodes free again
[22:34] <dar123> i don't think so
[22:34] <Mead> nacc: https:///pastebin.com/XwmStTaH
[22:34] <dar123> never installed any updates since i brought this up
[22:35] <nacc> Mead: you sure about that link?
[22:35] <Mead> sorry I didn't hand copy correctly,
[22:35] <k1l> dar123: "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[22:35] <Bashing-om> dar123: k1l : What's up that /dev/xvda is mounted both to '/' and to '/mnt ' ?
[22:36] <k1l> Bashing-om: its xvda and xvdb
[22:36] <Mead> nacc: https://pastebin.com/xwnStTaH
[22:37] <Bashing-om> k1l: Yeah :... me and narrow minded . :)
[22:38] <griest> hello I am having trouble getting a lock on a samba share
[22:38] <nacc> Mead: ok, your IOMMU groups are fine, i guess you and debug that little sriptlet
[22:38] <griest> however it does not appear that any processes are using it
[22:39] <dar123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24277625/
[22:39] <nacc> Mead: *you can debug
[22:39] <k1l> dar123: ok, then no easy way to solve your out-of-inodes issue. then you need to look after files yourself
[22:41] <Mead> nacc:  if the groups are fine, then great.  I need to figure out what devices these are and how they are grouped together
[22:43] <Mead> hehe, I just double checked the script again.  I had a = instead of a - in one of the lines....
[22:44] <nacc> Mead: ...
[22:44] <nacc> Mead: so next time, actually c&p paste the script
[22:46] <Mead> still didn't work, after I changed it.   I give up on the script, you checked it out and said it was good so I'm done with that part. Now I need map out on paper what devices in that last output are (NIC, gpu, sata whatever)
[22:48] <Mead> cause I'm I'm getting so deep into these find details that I losing track of why the heck I am messing with this at all.
[22:48] <Mead> err fine details
[22:52] <jnewt> how do i repair a usb disk (showing up as 732MB, it is 4GB)?  is the command line required?  I have files on there I want to use.
[22:53] <kk4ewt> cp the files you want off  while you can
[22:53] <jnewt> I can't, it shows up black and 732MB
[22:53] <jnewt> do i need a windows computer to repair it?
[22:53] <kk4ewt> jnewt,  output of fdisk -l |pastebinit
[22:56] <truelai> I've seen two different ways to do IP aliasing. Can someone point me to the official CURRENT way to do it?
[22:56] <truelai> i.e., most documentation I've come across uses eth:0 eth:1
[22:57] <jnewt> kk4ewt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24277686/
[22:57] <truelai> but I have seen documntation that says this is the old way (can't seem to find that one) and I have implemented without the colon and number.
[22:57] <kenrin> the "ip" command is the newest way truelai
[22:58] <truelai> to make it permaneny
[22:58] <truelai> permanent*
[22:58] <k1l> jnewt: you dd'ed a freebsd iso onto that usb?
[22:58] <truelai> ip command is temporary
[22:58] <jnewt> k1l: not that one.  the 7.2gb one is the problem
[22:59] <kenrin> The permanent way is the same as it has always been
[22:59] <kenrin> Unless you are using a network manager
[22:59] <jnewt> k1l, /dev/sda1
[22:59] <k1l> jnewt: its seen as 7,2GB fat
[23:00] <kk4ewt> jnewt,  so what is show it as having only 700M
[23:00] <jnewt> but when i plug it in, it shows up as 732MB under Devices
[23:00] <jnewt> and there's no files
[23:00] <k1l> jnewt: show the dmesg output
[23:00] <Mead> bought up the webpage on the ubuntu system, cut and pasteed  the script, saved it, and then used that same chmod +x name.sh ./name.sh command, and still no output
[23:01] <truelai> kenrin: this works https://www.pastiebin.com/58dc3cad9d22d
[23:01] <truelai> and it's not the old way but the way I saw to do it now
[23:01] <truelai> though I can't find the link
[23:02] <kenrin> Thats the way I've always done it on debian|ubuntu.  So i'm not sure what the "old way" is
[23:02] <truelai> using "eno1:1" is the old way
[23:02] <kenrin> For a single alias yeah
[23:02] <kenrin> not for a range
[23:02] <truelai> can you explain?
[23:04] <Mead> nacc:  thanks for for your help earlier.
[23:04] <kenrin> Wow ok nevermind,  ubuntu doesn't have ranges
[23:05] <dar123> thanks guyz, things are better now :)
[23:05] <truelai> so yeah. square one. how the fack is this supposed to work these days?
[23:05] <truelai> Can't seem to find official documentatin
[23:06] <jnewt> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24277704/
[23:06] <nacc> Mead: np
[23:06] <nacc> Mead: like i said, maybe the script is buggy, debug it
[23:08] <k1l> jnewt: are you sure you are not confused by the other usb with the freebsd?
[23:10] <Mead> nacc:  I don't even know where to start to debug a script.  I'm not even sure I'm running correctly
[23:10] <kenrin> I see what you are saying.  They have two methods listed in the debian wiki.   Ubuntu wiki doesn't even have permanent aliasing
[23:10] <truelai> yeah
[23:10] <dar123>  how can i delete files of this format a0aa3d6e-8732-47ac-b81f-b840ce7f0c64
[23:11] <dar123> four - and alphanumeric
[23:11] <k1l> dar123: use  tab-completion
[23:11] <dar123> 50k files
[23:11] <kenrin> The correct method would be at the very bottom of this page: wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[23:11] <truelai> it's some booshit
[23:11] <k1l> dar123: or do you mean with regex?
[23:11] <dar123> yups
[23:11] <Mead> nacc: perhaps I should find a better guide to try to follow
[23:12] <k1l> dar123: my regex foo is very low. cant you just clean the folder?
[23:12] <nacc> Mead: bash -x may help
[23:12] <truelai> kenrin, any idea when that documentation is from?
[23:12] <kenrin> No idea but ip route has been in quite a few older versions.  Just no one ever used it for a few years
[23:13] <kenrin> It looks like it was edited in 2014 for that section
[23:14] <truelai> :/
[23:15] <kenrin> Why :/  ?  I doubt the formatting has changed since then
[23:15] <Mead> nacc:  I'm old hand at DOS but I  can't find my own (insert rude word for male genitalia) when using linux cli.  "Bash -x" followed by what?
[23:15] <truelai> That's what this is about. Questioning the format from a current persepctive
[23:16] <nacc> Mead: let's say your script is 'test.sh' then run `bash -x test.sh`
[23:16] <Mead> ok, so it needs the file name
[23:16] <nacc> or whatever you are using
[23:17] <nacc>  you can also change the shebang in the script
[23:17] <kenrin> The way you wrote it and the way listed is almost exactly the same though.  Only you used CIDR notation
[23:18] <truelai> right. I just wanted to find something in black and white talking about the change to aliasing and knowing for sure what the current approach is.
[23:18] <truelai> thanks for the reference though.
[23:18] <kenrin> Gotcha.  Don't think what you are looking for exists though =)
[23:19] <truelai> sound about right.
[23:19] <truelai> sounds*
[23:19] <Mead> nacc:  would you like to see the output in pastebin?
[23:19] <truelai> oh snap...
[23:20] <truelai> right above it, it shows the eth0:1 method
[23:20] <kenrin> ya
[23:20] <truelai> and refers to it as "legacy"
[23:20] <truelai> you did indeed find the right doc!
[23:20] <truelai> I stand corrected
[23:20] <truelai> Thank you sir.
[23:20] <k1l> yeah, i wanted to say that "legacy" is like old or outdated.
[23:21] <k1l> (but since i only read half of your conversation i thought you saw that already)
[23:21] <Mead> https://pastebin.com/eBwMKJvd
[23:21] <nacc> Mead: uh... that's printing out a ton of stuff
[23:22] <nacc> Mead: unrelated to the bash -x change
[23:22] <nacc> Mead: e.g. lines 8 and 9 are the output you were looking for
[23:23] <Muhammad_> hello !
[23:23] <nacc> Mead: how were you running it before when you said there was no output?
[23:23] <Muhammad_> may I Ask Q  about Iptable
[23:23] <Mead> chmod +x  is what someone said
[23:24] <nacc> Mead: right, that made it executable
[23:24] <nacc> Mead: and the how did you run it? chmod +x doesn't run it
[23:24] <nacc> Mead: e.g. `./shscr1.sh` or `bash shscr1.sh`
[23:24] <k1l> Mead: chmod +x script.sh is needed once to grant the script the filepermission to be executed. after that you run it with "./script.sh" if you are in the same directory
[23:25] <Mead> see, I didn't even know how to run it correctly
[23:25] <nacc> ...
[23:25] <cfhowlett> !ask | Muhammad_
[23:25] <nacc> Mead: you really probably are biting off more than you can chew if you don't know how to run scripts
[23:25] <nacc> Mead: VMs are not 'trivial' to manage and configure
[23:25] <nacc> Mead: particularly the way you were describing it
[23:25] <kenrin> sure they are nacc,  just not passthrough
[23:26] <nacc> kenrin: do you know the context for Mead's issue?
[23:26] <kenrin> yes
[23:26] <nacc> kenrin: ok
[23:26] <nacc> kenrin: Mead specifically wants to passthru
[23:26] <nacc> kenrin: you're right, though, VMs are trivial, i shoudl have said for Mead's use case
[23:26] <k1l> i think the multi VM setup sounds like he is going to learn a lot :)
[23:27] <nacc> kenrin: but if someone doesn't know how to run a bash script, i think managing multiple VMs is a huge leap
[23:27] <nacc> smaller first steps would be more productive IMO
[23:27] <Mead> smaller steps?  LIke what?
[23:27] <nacc> !manual | Mead
[23:27] <Epx998> On ubuntu 14 - does a unattended installer not accept ks=blah.cfg to run debian stuff, all almost to be via preseed/blah.cfg with d-i options?
[23:27] <kenrin> Hate to be conscending,  but like learning the shell
[23:27] <nacc> !terminal | Mead
[23:28] <nacc> Mead: etc.
[23:28] <nacc> Mead: again, just my opinion -- but you're going to be hitting relatively trivial issues like this all the time if you don't have the basic sysadmin-y knowledge
[23:28] <Mead> ...  like heck I need to learn how to "surf the web" again
[23:30] <Mead> I learn by doing.
[23:32] <Didact69> I think was I here earlier
[23:32] <nacc> Mead: the manual has a bunch of stuff
[23:32] <nacc> Mead: as i said, just my opinion, but not knowing how to run a script is a major red flag (to me)
[23:32] <nacc> Mead: good luck in your endeavor
[23:33] <Mead> I've never had a reason to learn before
[23:34] <kenrin> Is there an http manual available ?  or is it just a download
[23:35] <kk4ewt> man apache2
[23:35] <kenrin> Er I meant for the ubuntu manual
[23:36] <kenrin> I just hate pdf
[23:36] <kk4ewt> man apache2 isnt a pdf
[23:36] <nacc> kenrin: apache's website is pretty useful too
[23:37] <kenrin> I can't word things properly.  I was looking at the ubuntu-manual.org but wanted a web based version
[23:41] <Didact69> ok, well at least we got that much
[23:44] <Capum321> hello
[23:46] <nacc> kenrin: there is also server guide
[23:46] <Didact69> I guess I'm looking for a good user guide on doing nat on 16.04
[23:47] <Capum321> i am uninstalling mono packages and some libs got broken 'E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[23:48] <Didact69> like should I use UFW? or just iptables?
[23:49] <erik__> a
[23:50] <Capum321> close synaptic or do something else?
[23:51] <eleniita18> https://www.google.es/search?client=ms-android-huawei&ei=Qj_cWODiCsS3a4iyjdAD&q=Pornovicio+hd&oq=Pornovicio+hd&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...1715.2293.0.2446.2.2.0.0.0.0.119.197.1j1.2.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..0.1.118...41.BQUKYv761NY
[23:51] <Didact69> eh, it's late, might as well start tomorrow
[23:51] <spotter> so I have a weird behavior, for some reason empty directories in my ~/Download folder keep on getting deleted
[23:51] <spotter> and I can't seem to figure out why
[23:52] <spotter> ~/Downloads that is
[23:54] <Annoyed> Greetings. Question about the Ubuntu software package manegment tool on 16.04 LTS ver. 2 ... previously, 14.04 for example, you could select an option to show geeky stuff like IRC clients, sshd and other techie bits. Has that been removed from the current version?
[23:56] <Delvien> spotter do you have ~/Downloads mounted on a different drive?
[23:57] <spotter> Delvien, hmm, its visible as an smb mount