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[03:18] <jnewt> i can't get out of the mate desktop and into a command line.  when i do sudo service stop lightdm, i just get a blinking cursor or some line about blocks being clean.  no prompt.  if i remove quiet splash vt.handoff from the linux line in grub and add single, i get a garbled mess of tiny text that I can't read.  I am trying to get to the command line to update my graphics driver which nvidia says can't be done from the de.
[03:19] <jnewt> i need to update my graphics driver in order to try to fix a host of other issues (core dump when running apps over vnc / rdp, disappearing bars from the desktop, etc.)
[03:19] <jnewt> v16.04
[04:05] <ubuntu-mate> any ideas on how to get wifi to work if the hardware button doesn't work on this HP laptop?
[09:24] <lhtd> why does the partition table header gets damaged when I boot ?
[09:24] <lhtd> Caution: invalid backup GPT header, but valid main header;
[09:24] <lhtd> regenerating
[09:24] <lhtd> backup header from main header.
[13:59] <PRI4B-10> hola
[14:00] <PRI4B-10> hola fer
[14:06] <DarkPsydeLord> hola
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=== SonikkuAmerica is now known as Menzador
[16:25] <nomic> z.z.
[17:13] <mojumbo> is there a reason gcc is not packaged with the distro?  After installing I then installed my NVIDIA driver which it promptly complained b/c it couldn't build the kernel mods
[17:14] <mojumbo> I had to immediately apt-get gcc
[17:15] <Menzador> mojumbo: GCC isn't considered an essential part of the system at install time.
[17:15] <Menzador> (since everything's prebuilt)
[17:16] <Menzador> mojumbo: Also, I'd probably install build-essential instead of just gcc itself
[17:17] <mojumbo> actually, in the Linux world it is since every driver install is built - pretty much as a module at install time
[17:18] <Menzador> But that's because the modules come pre-built and are copied over by ubiquity (the installer) at install time.
[17:19] <Menzador> Also, NVIDIA's drivers are proprietary, which means Ubuntu can't ship them because they're built independent of the system's package management functions
[17:19] <mojumbo> sure.  I'm not saying that you should ship with NVIDIA drivers
[17:20] <Menzador> Well, what else do you expect? If the script screams at you, meet its demands and try again
[17:21] <mojumbo> I'm just saying, in many instances, gcc would appear to be fairly important
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[18:16] <mate|71313> What is the life cycle of Ubuntu MATE 16.04?
[18:19] <Menzador> mate|71313: At least until 2019, if not 2021.
[18:23] <DarkPsydeLord> mate|71313,  Support ends April 2019.
[18:25] <mate|71313> Well with Ubuntu dropping support on 32 bit I am going to have to back track to LTS. I wondered if I should do mate. Or stay on budgie.
[18:27] <DarkPsydeLord> mate|71313, well i never used budgie before but i know i love mate :)
[18:28] <Menzador> DarkPsydeLord: Wait, where did you find that on our Web site?
[18:28] <Menzador> I combed it!
[18:29] <Menzador> Oh never mind, I found it.
[18:29] <Menzador> Yes, mate|71313 - support is only for 3 years
[18:29] <Menzador> on LTS systems
[18:31] <mate|71313> Budgie is 3 years as well. I might as well go bare bones.
[18:32] <mate|71313> Or Mint (Yuck)
[18:32] <Menzador> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are 5 years each
[18:33] <mate|71313> Lubuntu is 3 as well.
[18:34] <Menzador> Basically, only Ubuntu and Kubuntu do 5 years; the others (unless specifically stated) are 3 years
[18:40] <mate|71313> This piece of junk prolly wont last 5 years but what if it does.
[18:40] <mate|71313> LoL
[18:51] <mate|71313> Thanks for your help. Have a great day
[19:08] <DarkPsydeLord> its at the download section Menzador :)
[19:17] <Menzador> DarkPsydeLord: Yeah, that's where I found it.
[21:13] <joseph> Hi all - anyone have any experience using Citrix Receiver, in particular SSL error 4 ?
[21:13] <joseph> Long shot I know
[21:18] <SATA24> Hey. Is anyone there?
[21:20] <SATA24> Hey, I was wondering in anyone could help me with the installation of Ubuntu-Mate onto a MicroSD card for use in a raspberry pi zero. I have tried several times, but the pi zero just hangs on boot within 5 seconds of powering on every time.
[21:22] <SATA24> Is anyone online?
[21:23] <SATA24> Can anyone hear me?
[21:29] <Talikkaf> We can hear you. I cannot help you.
[21:29] <SATA24> Do you know if anyone can?
[21:30] <Talikkaf> of course many can :p
[21:30] <Talikkaf> did you find any relevant info via Google about similar problems?
[21:31] <SATA24> Not yet. I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu-Mate webpage exactly, however.
[21:31] <Talikkaf> Sometimes the install medium can get corrupted.
[21:31] <SATA24> So how do I ensure that it does not get corrupted?
[21:32] <Talikkaf> I don't know. Check the md5 sum and burn the image to a different flash drive. (probably the problem is somewhere else, though)
[21:33] <SATA24> I checked the sha sum of the archive when I downloaded it, and it was okay. I don't know where to find a sum for the unpacked .img file, however.
[21:33] <SATA24> Also, I only have one drive.
[21:34] <Talikkaf> Perhaps you can try an older release of ubuntu mate 32 bit
[21:34] <SATA24> I thought those were only for x86 architectures?
[21:36] <Talikkaf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/703070/does-ubuntu-work-on-a-raspberry-pi-zero
[21:36] <Talikkaf> I don't know enough of the architectures. Your device seems to be unable to run Ubuntu Mate.
[21:37] <Talikkaf> You should use raspbian and not mate on that zero, if I understood the article correctly
[21:38] <SATA24> I tried, but it kept hanging whenever I ran "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[21:39] <Talikkaf> and 'sudo apt-get update' also?
[21:39] <SATA24> Yes.
[21:39] <SATA24> I did Update, then Upgrade.
[21:39] <SATA24> It gets stuck on "reading (something or other) lists: 40%" and just sits there.
[23:49] <nicklas_> will you be able to upgrade ubuntu mate to 17.04 just like any other ubuntu derative?
[23:50] <nicklas_> also if youve added your own reposes, will they stay or get removed?
[23:50] <nicklas_> if they stay, will they change to new release automatically?
[23:50] <nicklas_> or do you need to change release?
[23:51] <nicklas_> if they dont stay, i want to copy the apt folder before upgrading