[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <bdmurray> o/
[15:02] <barry> \o
[15:02] <tdaitx> \o/
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:02] <caribou> \o
[15:02] <rbalint> \o
[15:03] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 30 15:03:06 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:04] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson rbalint)
[15:04] <slangasek> rbalint xnox cyphermox doko slangasek barry mwhudson bdmurray chiluk infinity tdaitx caribou robru sil2100
[15:04] <slangasek> rbalint: congrats, you're first
[15:04] <sil2100> Wow, I'm dead-last
[15:04] <rbalint> * nama ftbfs turned out to be a different, very old perl bug (https://rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=77706)
[15:04] <rbalint>   provided a small patch for nama as workaround which got accepted through delayed/2 #839218
[15:04] <rbalint> * checked that pywavelets builds on armhf in Debian unlike in zesty
[15:04] <rbalint> * forwarded Ubuntu patch and fixed an other source building issue in pywavelets in delayed NMU #852303
[15:05] <rbalint> * prepared patch for unity-greeter to run tests with valgrind to have better crash infos in build logs http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rbalint/unity-greeter/test-with-valgrind/revision/2193
[15:05] <rbalint> * prepared patch for ldns ftbfs LP: #1676502
[15:05] <rbalint> * WIP patch for minimizing ubuntu-cpc, by dropping most docs
[15:05] <rbalint> * added autopkgtests to livecd-rootfs, waiting for merge approval
[15:05] <rbalint>   https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/livecd-rootfs/livecd-rootfs-autopkgtest/+merge/321459
[15:05] <slangasek> autopkgtests> my hero
[15:06] <rbalint> mistake, nama is fixed by main taking my patch
[15:06] <rbalint> pywavelets got accepted
[15:06] <rbalint> slangasek: thanks! :-)
[15:06] <rbalint> slangasek: it was badly needed :-)
[15:07] <rbalint> EOF
[15:07] <rbalint> :-)
[15:07] <slangasek> xnox:
[15:07] <bdmurray> he's ill
[15:07] <cyphermox> my turn
[15:07] <cyphermox> - SRU uploads and verification for shim & grub.
[15:07] <cyphermox> - ubiquity-slideshow update
[15:07] <cyphermox> - upload fix to zesty and SRUs for hw-detect/multipath-tools (bug LP: #1673350)
[15:07] <cyphermox> - fix /var/run vs. /run for initramfs hook in multipath-tools (bug LP: #1670811)
[15:07] <cyphermox> - preparing/"release" subiquity image for testing
[15:07] <cyphermox> - investigating kernel update vs drivers in ubiquity when "Download updates" unchecked (bug LP: #1634246)
[15:07] <cyphermox> - reviewing more grub-installer patches for PReP on RAID (bug LP: #1550448)
[15:07] <cyphermox> - fixing networking failure after X->Y upgrade b/c network-manager postinst (bug LP: #1676547)
[15:07] <cyphermox> - investigating broadcom driver causing ubiquity wireless dialog crash (bug LP: #1675127)
[15:08] <cyphermox> - rework subiquity livecd-roofs changes for merging; prepare debian-cd/ubuntu-cdimage.
[15:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> cyphermox: as /var/run compatibility regressed?
[15:09] <slangasek> has
[15:09] <slangasek> doko is off
[15:09] <cyphermox> slangasek: I think we may not have /var/run in initramfs, so yeah, things regressed to some degree
[15:09] <slangasek> ah, in initramfs
[15:09] <cyphermox> yep
[15:09] <slangasek> yeah, things shouldn't assume it there :-)
[15:09] <slangasek>  * image minimization
[15:09] <slangasek>   * working through demotion of tzdata from required to important (coming today)
[15:10] <slangasek>  * cloud images
[15:10] <slangasek>  * SRU shepherding
[15:10] <slangasek>  * helping legal with paperwork for IP lawyers
[15:10] <slangasek>  * encountered and debugged LP: #1677417
[15:10] <slangasek>  * working on simplestreams of ubuntu-core images for the maas team
[15:10] <slangasek> (done)
[15:10] <cyphermox> woah, I didn't bring my coffee?
[15:10] <barry> ubuntu-image classic snap testing.  we were blocked on snapcraft 2.28 and snapd 2.23 in x & y.  snapcraft has cleared -proposed but snapd 2.23 is still in {x,y}-proposed so we're still blocked; LP: #1673576
[15:10] <infinity> ld.so.conf.d/conjure-up?  Really?
[15:10] <slangasek> cyphermox: ?
[15:10] <barry> short week due to vacation
[15:10] <barry> LP: #1656474; LP: #1633331; LP: #1658844; emacs25 cleared proposed though -O0 on arm64 isn't ideal; reported and interacted w/upstream but no clear alternatives yet
[15:10] <barry> other: landed some upstream python fixes; pycon 2017 planning;
[15:10]  * genii slides cyphermox a fresh coffee and slinks off again
[15:10] <barry> --done--
[15:12] <slangasek> bdmurray:
[15:12] <cyphermox> slangasek: I think I have a problem, I drank it, put the cup away, so fast that I couldn't find it anymore.
[15:12] <bdmurray> Why do keep that other person in the rotation? Takes work to remember to forget about them.
[15:12] <bdmurray> resolved apport FTBFS
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified ubuntu general hook to collect /proc/cpuinfo (LP: #1673557)
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified whoopsie to allow ProcCpuinfoMinimal thru (same bug number)
[15:12] <bdmurray> review of some apport-hook-error bug reports, clean up of dupes
[15:13] <bdmurray> reuploaded Y fix for LP: #1623856 after v-failed
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported upstream gdb bug re it hanging
[15:13] <bdmurray> discovered and fixed issue with iso tracker not updating bugs
[15:13] <bdmurray> wrote a bug pattern for LP: #1639374
[15:13] <bdmurray> troubleshooting of my upgrade to Yakkety
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported network issue after upgrade (LP: #1676547)
[15:13] <bdmurray> DMB meeting and associated work
[15:13] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:13] <chiluk> * Been working on ceph/radosgw performance
[15:13] <chiluk> * An iscsi/multipath bug that turned into a kernel xfs bug.  Nothing really foundations related from me today.
[15:13] <chiluk> - done -
[15:13] <slangasek> barry: do you know if snapd 2.23 is verification-done? we could promote it right now
[15:13] <chiluk> infinity..
[15:13] <infinity>  - Fix ruby autopkgtest regression fallout from the net-tools demotion.
[15:13] <infinity>  - Drive the archive parts of the kernel security CRD.
[15:13] <infinity>  - Lots and lots of queue and FFe reviews.
[15:13] <infinity>  - More tool/infra mangling to fix the powerpc removal.
[15:13] <infinity> (done)
[15:14] <barry> slangasek: looking
[15:14] <tdaitx> = JCK
[15:14] <tdaitx>   * firewall exceptions are finally in place
[15:14] <tdaitx>   * setup tinc to access lxd containers directly
[15:14] <tdaitx>   * testing vnc and pulseaudio redirection from containers
[15:14] <tdaitx>     - latency is so-so (avg 500 ms)
[15:14] <tdaitx>     - playing around and reducing resolution/colors/quality to improve vnc responsiveness without affecting the stuff under test (readability, right colors, etc)
[15:14] <tdaitx>     - audio is okay-ish, few tests use/need it so latency does not hurt as bad
[15:14] <tdaitx> = Other
[15:14] <tdaitx>   * Reproduced openjdk's (8u121-b13-0ubuntu1.16.04.2) awt bug a couple times, but it is not a realiable reproducer (ie. open eclipse, hope to trigger it)
[15:14] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:14] <caribou> Bugfix :
[15:14] <caribou>   LP #1654600 : unattended-upgrades breaks shutdown when /var is FS
[15:14] <caribou>   - cyphermox reviewed & ok
[15:14] <caribou>   - More worried with deg-systemd-helper bug causing grief on upgrade
[15:14] <caribou>   LP: #1342580 : tftp does not start
[15:14] <caribou>   - SRU uploaded. Needs to verify
[15:14] <caribou>  - LP: #1658733 - kdump on multipath is failing
[15:14] <caribou>    Need to setup test environment
[15:14] <caribou>  Still need AA magic on releasing tomsfastmath into Main following MIR completion
[15:14] <caribou>  - LP: #1619239
[15:14] <caribou>  - Will unblock clamav from zesty-proposed
[15:14] <caribou>  Sponsored nfs-utils - LP: #1590799 for SRU
[15:14] <caribou>  Work on script to track SRUs taken care of by STS
[15:14] <caribou> Meetings
[15:14] <caribou>  ☑ Done
[15:15] <bdmurray> caribou: Did you see my comment about checking for other filesystems for unattended-upgrades?
[15:15] <caribou> bdmurray: yes, I scanned through the source & added /var/lib to the RequiresMountsFor=
[15:15] <bdmurray> was /boot already in there?
[15:16] <sil2100> Is robru around?
[15:16] <caribou> bdmurray: nope
[15:16] <caribou> bdmurray: think it should also be added ?
[15:16] <bdmurray> caribou: Well it wouldn't hurt.
[15:17] <caribou> bdmurray: sure, I'll add it too once I fix my systemd-helper issue
[15:17] <sil2100> I'll go ahead maybe
[15:17] <sil2100> - Half-day off on Monday
[15:17] <sil2100> - Landing team work, ticket release coordination
[15:17] <sil2100> - Multiple SRU reviews
[15:17] <sil2100> - Kernel SRU reviews
[15:17] <sil2100> - DMB meeting
[15:17] <sil2100> - Discussions regarding the nearest ubuntu-touch security OTA
[15:17] <sil2100> - Copying s-i images for ubuntu-core
[15:17] <sil2100> - Preparing a hotfix for the recently enabled dual-overlay-landing functionality
[15:17] <sil2100> - Sponsoring/helping with some packages from the sponsoring queue
[15:17] <sil2100> - Working on getting rid of some NBS packages (libubuntu-app-launch2-dev)
[15:17] <sil2100> - Snooping around systemd being blocked in zesty-proposed because of hanging autopkgtest
[15:18] <sil2100> (done)
[15:19] <cyphermox> sil2100: I will fix the nplan autopkgtests, but they're lying in that things don't work. I think it's an issue of too short timeouts given the stack of virtual devices that need to come up
[15:19] <sil2100> cyphermox: you mean the nplan tests are lying, right? Since besides those we also have systemd tests failing for unknown reasons I guess
[15:20] <cyphermox> yes
[15:20] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1672542
[15:20] <sil2100> cyphermox: ok, thanks, that would fix part of the issues then
[15:20] <cyphermox> I wouldn't know about the systemd tests but if you need help don't hesitate
[15:21] <sil2100> Sure, I only recently started looking, don't know much about the tests yet
[15:21] <sil2100> But will poke in case of any issues
[15:22] <sil2100> Will have to try and reproduce this in some safe environment where I can easily revert packages and find out which ones cause all those problems
[15:23] <bdmurray> Is it AOB time?
[15:24] <bdmurray> Does anybody know how I could get some upstream to look at my gdb bug?
[15:28] <tdaitx> bdmurray, whats the bug #?
[15:28] <bdmurray> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21324
[15:28] <tdaitx> i might be able to help
[15:28] <slangasek> cyphermox: so should we badtest all of the nplan autopkgtests right now?
[15:28] <slangasek> any other questions on status?
[15:29] <cyphermox> slangasek: yeah, probably should
[15:29] <slangasek> ok
[15:29] <slangasek> that will unblock a few things, thanks :)
[15:29] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:29] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:30] <bdmurray> Ping your friends about running for the DMB
[15:30] <rbalint> i think nama could enter ubuntu again
[15:30] <bdmurray> We had only cyphermox self-nominate :-(
[15:30] <cyphermox> I have a nplan release almost ready, should fix the tests too
[15:30] <infinity> I wish I had breakfast.
[15:30] <cyphermox> we already have a good chunk of the team on the DMB
[15:30] <slangasek> bdmurray: what if I'm good with cyphermox being on the team again? :)
[15:30] <sil2100> Who's our current systemd expert? Just so I know who I can also ping besides cyphermox in case of questions
[15:31] <cyphermox> sil2100: ENOENT
[15:31] <slangasek> rbalint: are you our current systemd expert?
[15:31] <rbalint> will file a synt request
[15:31] <bdmurray> slangasek: infinity's term is almost up too
[15:31] <sil2100> :<
[15:31] <rbalint> slangasek: afaik i'm the Tobe one  :-)
[15:31] <caribou> sil2100: what's your systemd problem, I've been knee-deep into it lately
[15:31] <slangasek> rbalint: sil2100 has questions for you ;)
[15:31] <barry> isn't systemd ownership is our hazing ritual?
[15:32] <infinity> No, that's ubiquity.
[15:32] <cyphermox> so I'm not done with hazing yet?
[15:32] <infinity> Nope.
[15:32] <cyphermox> crap.
[15:32] <infinity> Don't worry, we can haze in parallel.
[15:32] <barry> working on either one of those will make you hazy
[15:32] <cyphermox> what about the one who started and then left?
[15:32] <sil2100> caribou: there's this autopkgtest hang we're investigating, it has something to do with some of the deps in ubuntu - still looking what caused it
[15:33] <cyphermox> are we outsourcing the hazing?
[15:33] <caribou> sil2100: k
[15:33] <tdaitx> bdmurray, btw, did you report it on the mailing list as well? I didn't find anything so far there
[15:33] <rbalint> i can start focusing on systemd problems
[15:33] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1672542 is the bug if anything, but I'll poke you guys once I get to something actually
[15:33] <sil2100> (it's actually unrelated to the kernel)
[15:34] <infinity> Are you sure?
[15:34] <bdmurray> tdaitx: I didn't know that was needed.
[15:34] <infinity> Have you tried downgrading to a 4.4 kernel and it magically goes away?
[15:34] <tdaitx> bdmurray, that's what usually is needed to grab their attention =|
[15:34] <bdmurray> tdaitx: okay
[15:34] <infinity> Ahh, Freshest tried that.
[15:35] <tdaitx> bdmurray, and then ping again after a week if nobody gives it any love
[15:35] <sil2100> infinity: I didn't try, but from what Seth mentioned he tried various kernel combinations
[15:35] <sil2100> And it didn't really change anything
[15:35] <tdaitx> bdmurray, I know a couple folks there, I can ping them directly if you need
[15:35] <bdmurray> tdaitx: great, thanks
[15:39] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:40] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 15:40:19 2017 UTC.
[15:40] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-03-30-15.03.moin.txt
[15:40] <slangasek> thanks!
[15:40] <barry> thanks!
[15:41] <tdaitx> thanks!
[15:41] <rbalint> thanks!
[15:41] <caribou> thanks!