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MooDoomorning all06:47
SuperMattmorning06:59
diploMorning all06:59
MooDooI'm sick of winning lotto lucky dips, when am I going to win the big one?07:00
diploI'm sick of not winning anything, give me your lucky dips?07:10
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:07
davmor2Morning all08:09
MooDoomorning brobostigon and davmor208:17
davmor2Hey MooDoo ow am ya?08:18
davmor2MooDoo: of to the van tomorrow can't wait need this break :D08:18
popeyali1234: didn't know that!08:22
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:23
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy I am in Control Day! 😃08:45
* zmoylan-pi told JamesTait to say that... :-P08:46
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, but I still made the final decision. 😉08:50
zmoylan-pithat's what i allow you to think... :-P08:50
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8xbDGv7oY worlds longest intro sorry :D09:08
=== Seeker` is now known as Seeker
knightwi1egood morning peeps09:13
dogmatic69_o/09:13
zmoylan-pio/09:13
knightwi1erunning Bash on the windows machine today09:14
knightwi1ekinda funny to have all these commands and apps at my disposal :)09:14
=== knightwi1e is now known as Knightw0rk
zmoylan-pii used to use cygwin and before that unxutils for my linuxy console needs on windows09:15
Knightw0rkits convenient. still get to run MsProject for work while running IRC on the same machine :)  Combine that on an XPS13 and its a sweet dream09:16
zmoylan-pithe fun i had when outlook refused to find emails i knew were in it and dropped to command line and grepped the pst file... :-)09:16
Knightw0rkhahahah :)09:18
Knightw0rkGrep PSt :) The mailcient of the future09:18
zmoylan-piand the vim the results... very user friendly... :-P09:21
Knightw0rkindeed09:32
Knightw0rkand reading the mime code of your attachments instead of watching the pictures09:32
zmoylan-pia true geek can see the jpeg in the mime...09:42
Knightw0rklike neo seing the matrix code09:46
Knightw0rkhmm.. i think i've gotten my hands on an older 20 inch imac , 2007 model.09:47
Knightw0rkWanna try to run linux on there09:47
Knightw0rklooks like a cute machine to use , perhaps slide in an SSD.09:50
diddledanyey for living in a flat10:01
diddledananother leaky leak10:01
diddledanthis one is going through my electricity boxes \o/10:04
diddledanI really should power everything off10:04
diddledanpoor woman upstairs has had several pairs of shoes ruined :-(10:06
TwistedLuciditydiddledan: Got a good management agency/factor?10:27
diddledanyeah, the plumber just arrived already - less than 30 minutes after I phoned for help10:28
diddledan(he arrived about 11:15)10:28
TwistedLucidityNice10:29
diddledanthey classed it as emergency due to the electricity factor10:29
diddledanwhy does ebay think I want to buy a bra?11:39
directhexso your chest doesn't chafe when you run?11:44
m0nkey_Don't be silly.11:48
m0nkey_He doesn't run11:48
diploGuys, anyone recommend a good workstation, won't have much to spend. But my basic needs are to run 4-5 VM's at a time without dieing, coding ( so nowt really ) and running 3 screens preferably14:37
diploJust about to start searching now, haven't been given a budget, but it'll be small :/14:37
diddledanfor VMs the limiting factor is usually RAM rather than CPU14:45
diploYeah, having issues on this box on disk, but this box is sooooooo old :)14:45
diploAnd underpowered14:45
diploAnd it's mine, not the companies!14:45
diploJust found a site called bargainhardware.co.uk with a HP Z420 that I can spec up quite well14:47
TwistedLuciditydiplo: Hmm...always fancied a Lack-Rack15:47
diddledana what in the whatnow?15:47
TwistedLucidityYou go to Ikea, buy a Lack table.15:49
TwistedLucidityThen you get a few rack servers/routers/switches15:50
TwistedLucidityAnd mount under the top of said table.15:50
TwistedLucidityBoom.15:50
TwistedLucidityLack-Rack.15:50
diplo:)15:54
diploGoing to speak to the boss tomorrow15:55
daftykinsdiplo: Dell XPS desktop from the Dell outlet pages16:45
daftykinsyou'll find a skylake i7 with 16GB RAM and nvidia GTX 960 graphics cards (capable of triple displays) for likely <£80016:46
daftykinsin fact, even less without a card - but you'd want one really16:47
daftykinsone for £715 on there right now, with other configurations available16:48
ali1234i wouldn't buy a 96016:54
ali1234for coding the skylake IGP is fine16:54
daftykinswon't get 3 outputs from that though, which makes your case moot16:54
ali1234you can, actually16:55
ali1234you might need to use display port though16:55
daftykinsbut the point is that you'd need to use a different cable for each - and having put those machines in one would have to be VGA, which is a joke - so once again, no.17:00
diddledansurely you'd need cables for every monitor anyway. I don't see what the choice of GFX has over whether to use 3 cables or not17:14
diddledanyou can't connect three monitors to one cable!17:14
daftykinsbecause it's one of each type = more fun to diagnose etc17:17
daftykinsplus different capabilities, res support... i fail to see how this isn't obvious17:17
diddledanthere's no reason it has to be basing the premise on it being a skylake i717:18
daftykins"it has to be" being what?17:18
diddledanmy skylake i7 has hdmi and two display ports which are hdmi without the proprietary plug17:18
diddledanit has to be meaning there's no reason it has to be three different types17:18
daftykinswe're talking about a specific Dell XPS desktop in this case which i've put in two of, and has specific outputs only17:19
daftykinsyou can't just assume certain outputs come on it17:19
diddledanno, but ali1234 was talking about skylake IGP being fine and you replied to that saying no17:20
diddledanyou didn't specify that you were readjusting the conversation back to the box previous to ali1234 mentioning skylake17:20
daftykinsbecause i'm talking about a specific system and the outputs it has available - and diplo said 3 monitors17:20
daftykinsi don't see how you think that was required17:21
ali1234https://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-from-a-single-displayport-output/17:32
diddledanali1234: still need three cables :-p17:33
diddledan</troll>17:33
diddledanthese old computer chronicles programs are epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2rxImyGYE17:34
daftykinsdisplayport daisy chaining requires premium displays with support, they don't all just do it17:36
daftykinslisten, i don't say these things for fun - i have the experience to back it up17:36
diddledanand you need three monitors! (even my setup only has two :-( *pout*)17:36
diddledanthree monitors is just decadent17:37
diddledanalthough, I kinda want 6x24inch17:37
diddledanmy setup is evil, the two 24inch monitors I have are different aspect ratios17:38
daftykinsnot me, i only have two too - and they're gonna be 10 years old next year :>17:42
diddledan:-o17:42
daftykinsstill rocking displayport 1.117:43
diddledannearly old enoughh to vote!17:43
diddledanI really drool over 4k 24 inch screens17:43
daftykinsi think that'd be too small for that res17:44
diddledanmine are standard 1920x1080 and 1920x120017:44
daftykinsi always hear these g-sync or freesync 144Hz ones are the best thing since sliced bread, but i've not seen one in person17:44
diddledannah, they're only any benefit if you're a gamer IMO17:45
daftykinswell yeah, i do game17:45
diddledanI don't :-p17:45
daftykinsbut a mate has seen one and says they even improve the desktop XD17:45
daftykins2 months and almost a week on and i'm still waiting on the bathroom quotes, oy17:46
diddledangrr17:46
diddledanthat's a hellish wait17:46
diddledanstill it means you get to see kitties every shower :-p17:46
daftykins;) it does! the shower room i use is in the basement, so when i go in i hear the little tappity tap of kitten paws as they follow me down17:47
diddledanaww17:47
diddledanso koot17:47
daftykins<Poppy & Daisy> Ooh, a human is here! Quick!17:47
=== pendulum_ is now known as pendulum
diddledanwow, I didn't know this existed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Sidecar18:01
marshmnI doubt it will run DOTA218:06
diddledanlol18:06
diddledanwonder how long my electric cupboard will take to dry-out?18:09
diddledanthere's not much ventilation so no air movement18:09
zmoylan-piget the 6000 packets of silica gel that have come in every electronic device you've opened... :-P18:10
diddledanlol18:10
daftykinsthat reminds me, i had a brainwave of putting those packets between my ghetto secondary glazing (5mm perspex sheets screwed atop my windows) to reduce the mould buildup18:11
marshmnwould probably work - but will probably need them replacing frequently18:12
daftykinsindeed18:13
daftykinsonly seems to need a scrub for spring as they come down then anyway on most18:13
marshmnfill the entire window with rice18:14
daftykins\o/18:14
zmoylan-pimove the window to the sahara...18:14
marshmnmove the planet closer to the sun18:15
zmoylan-piyou'd need to get a quote from musk on that...18:15
diddledanmusk is going into neurological field with his investments - wants to interface humans and machines18:16
diddledanref: http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs18:16
zmoylan-pigo to a korean internet cafe...18:16
marshmnyou think he'd sort out daftykins' windows first though18:16
zmoylan-pihe thought gates was taking care of daftykins windows...18:17
davmor2diddledan: yeah that could be dangerous18:18
daftykinshe's too busy curing world diseases18:18
diddledandavmor2: the musk neuralink or my electricity & water combo?18:18
davmor2diddledan: both18:18
diddledan:-p18:18
daftykinsbut my place is a fully listed 16th/17th century townhouse so yeah, no double glazing for me18:18
diddledandang18:19
diddledansucky nuts18:19
daftykinsit was gonna be 2017, year of the insulated roof - until the bathroom drama18:20
zmoylan-pigrow a beard for insulation...18:25
marshmndaftykins: I already knew you like living in the past, but you've taken it to a new level in my understanding :-)18:40
* zmoylan-pi nods approvingly of the clinging to ancient technology... :-P18:42
* diddledan bashes zmoylan-pi with a compaq proliant18:47
diddledan(one of those was underneath the water in my leccy-cupboard)18:47
* zmoylan-pi fends off diddledan with ast pc18:47
diddledanthems are heavy beasts!18:49
zmoylan-pisolid metal cases... no plastics... no sireee18:49
diddledanone of these jobbies (though I remember the model number different .. /me goes to check) http://www.surfplus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Compaq-Proliant-ML370-1.jpg18:51
diddledanyeah, mine say they're 1600R18:52
zmoylan-pii think that was the one that landed on my foot when desk collapsed under it...18:52
diddledannot ML37018:52
diddledanthe delivery man loved when he had two of them to deliver to my second-floor flat a decade ago18:53
zmoylan-pihopefully you left them out when you were finished with them so some thief needing a hernia installed could have a go...18:54
diddledanlol18:54
diddledanI still have them :-p18:54
diddledanI should get them running again18:55
diddledangot three of them18:55
zmoylan-pii remember the blog of an admin who took a full tower pc, filled it with wet cement and left it on his porch for entertainment... first time it only made it about 50metres iirc18:55
diddledanhaha. that's some serious trolling!18:56
diddledanneeded a camera setup to record the fiefs18:56
zmoylan-pithink of it as teaching the less fortunate :-P18:56
diddledan(fief is how we spell theive!)18:56
diddledanI used to aspire to one of these setups: http://h20564.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/imageServlet?DOCID=emr_na-c00376737-7/c00406574.jpg19:01
daftykinsmarshmn: i live inside the past!19:01
daftykinsmarshmn: although that still pisses me off saying that since i had discless playback with Kodi at home before you'd had your first whiff of streaming services ;)19:02
diddledandaftykins: I tried to do the same with linuxmce.org - I failed19:04
diddledanmany moons ago19:04
daftykinslooks like they're trying to do a lot in that19:07
daftykinsoh my, Aliens in stick form - http://i.imgur.com/3238SN8.gifv19:30
daftykinswell, chubby sticks :P19:30
diddledanlol19:32
* zmoylan-pi wonders how long it would take a 3d printer to make a small wall decoration... :-P http://68.media.tumblr.com/3beb60eaeec1e76dd4dbb110873c8a84/tumblr_n3hwa472J91tp5udno1_1280.jpg19:41
diddledaneek19:42
diddledanimagine having one of those above a bed in a hotel19:42
diddledanpreferably invisible from all angles except when you look up from lying on the bed19:42
zmoylan-pion a timer to appear from a recess at night over the bed and the flash the lights...19:42
diddledanor that ^19:42
zmoylan-pithe resulting scream will be billed as your wake up call for the rest of the hotel/town...19:43
diddledanlol19:43
daftykinsor rest of LV42719:43
zmoylan-pior don't flash the lights.  just drip cold liquid onto person till they flip the light switch and see 'drooling' xenomorph...19:51
zmoylan-pisurvivors get a discount on health insurance as they're guaranteed not to have heart attack in next year... :-P19:52
daftykinsunless they stay again!19:54
zmoylan-piyeah... they'll ever willingly go asleep in a dark room again...19:55
daftykinsspeaking of hotels i just email'd the manager of the one beside me to tell him their pub free wifi access point is borked19:56
zmoylan-piprobably have to be coaxed out with a warm blanky and pack of choccy hobnobs...19:56
zmoylan-piyou didn't hack it better? :-P19:56
diddledanmmm, choccy nobnobs19:56
daftykinshah, either a power fault or just the unit faulty - 'twas PoE19:59
daftykinshe also unplugged it in front of me, but still fell over every 5 mins19:59
zmoylan-pisounds donald...20:00
zmoylan-piwas it installed by pub or outsourced to some comapny?20:02
zmoylan-piinstalled a new hp printer today... it wanted to create a cloud account to activate the printer...20:03
daftykinsthey have made the mistake of being handled by a local IT company under a managed contract20:03
daftykinsone i know well, as their labour rate is £95/hr which includes time spent calling in, for small biz20:03
zmoylan-piah...20:03
zmoylan-piif sent to fix it when i left i would either have it working for a few days between reboots scheduled at 3am or kill it with a hammer and replace it.20:07
daftykinsreboot was already a no-go, she's dead, Jim20:10
diddledanhttp://www.html5zombo.com/22:27

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