[06:47] morning all [06:59] morning [06:59] Morning all [07:00] I'm sick of winning lotto lucky dips, when am I going to win the big one? [07:10] I'm sick of not winning anything, give me your lucky dips? [08:07] morning boys and girls. [08:09] Morning all [08:17] morning brobostigon and davmor2 [08:18] Hey MooDoo ow am ya? [08:18] MooDoo: of to the van tomorrow can't wait need this break :D [08:22] ali1234: didn't know that! [08:23] morning MooDoo [08:45] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy I am in Control Day! 😃 [08:46] * zmoylan-pi told JamesTait to say that... :-P [08:50] zmoylan-pi, but I still made the final decision. 😉 [08:50] that's what i allow you to think... :-P [09:08] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8xbDGv7oY worlds longest intro sorry :D === Seeker` is now known as Seeker [09:13] good morning peeps [09:13] o/ [09:13] o/ [09:14] running Bash on the windows machine today [09:14] kinda funny to have all these commands and apps at my disposal :) === knightwi1e is now known as Knightw0rk [09:15] i used to use cygwin and before that unxutils for my linuxy console needs on windows [09:16] its convenient. still get to run MsProject for work while running IRC on the same machine :) Combine that on an XPS13 and its a sweet dream [09:16] the fun i had when outlook refused to find emails i knew were in it and dropped to command line and grepped the pst file... :-) [09:18] hahahah :) [09:18] Grep PSt :) The mailcient of the future [09:21] and the vim the results... very user friendly... :-P [09:32] indeed [09:32] and reading the mime code of your attachments instead of watching the pictures [09:42] a true geek can see the jpeg in the mime... [09:46] like neo seing the matrix code [09:47] hmm.. i think i've gotten my hands on an older 20 inch imac , 2007 model. [09:47] Wanna try to run linux on there [09:50] looks like a cute machine to use , perhaps slide in an SSD. [10:01] yey for living in a flat [10:01] another leaky leak [10:04] this one is going through my electricity boxes \o/ [10:04] I really should power everything off [10:06] poor woman upstairs has had several pairs of shoes ruined :-( [10:27] diddledan: Got a good management agency/factor? [10:28] yeah, the plumber just arrived already - less than 30 minutes after I phoned for help [10:28] (he arrived about 11:15) [10:29] Nice [10:29] they classed it as emergency due to the electricity factor [11:39] why does ebay think I want to buy a bra? [11:44] so your chest doesn't chafe when you run? [11:48] Don't be silly. [11:48] He doesn't run [14:37] Guys, anyone recommend a good workstation, won't have much to spend. But my basic needs are to run 4-5 VM's at a time without dieing, coding ( so nowt really ) and running 3 screens preferably [14:37] Just about to start searching now, haven't been given a budget, but it'll be small :/ [14:45] for VMs the limiting factor is usually RAM rather than CPU [14:45] Yeah, having issues on this box on disk, but this box is sooooooo old :) [14:45] And underpowered [14:45] And it's mine, not the companies! [14:47] Just found a site called bargainhardware.co.uk with a HP Z420 that I can spec up quite well [15:47] diplo: Hmm...always fancied a Lack-Rack [15:47] a what in the whatnow? [15:49] You go to Ikea, buy a Lack table. [15:50] Then you get a few rack servers/routers/switches [15:50] And mount under the top of said table. [15:50] Boom. [15:50] Lack-Rack. [15:54] :) [15:55] Going to speak to the boss tomorrow [16:45] diplo: Dell XPS desktop from the Dell outlet pages [16:46] you'll find a skylake i7 with 16GB RAM and nvidia GTX 960 graphics cards (capable of triple displays) for likely <£800 [16:47] in fact, even less without a card - but you'd want one really [16:48] one for £715 on there right now, with other configurations available [16:54] i wouldn't buy a 960 [16:54] for coding the skylake IGP is fine [16:54] won't get 3 outputs from that though, which makes your case moot [16:55] you can, actually [16:55] you might need to use display port though [17:00] but the point is that you'd need to use a different cable for each - and having put those machines in one would have to be VGA, which is a joke - so once again, no. [17:14] surely you'd need cables for every monitor anyway. I don't see what the choice of GFX has over whether to use 3 cables or not [17:14] you can't connect three monitors to one cable! [17:17] because it's one of each type = more fun to diagnose etc [17:17] plus different capabilities, res support... i fail to see how this isn't obvious [17:18] there's no reason it has to be basing the premise on it being a skylake i7 [17:18] "it has to be" being what? [17:18] my skylake i7 has hdmi and two display ports which are hdmi without the proprietary plug [17:18] it has to be meaning there's no reason it has to be three different types [17:19] we're talking about a specific Dell XPS desktop in this case which i've put in two of, and has specific outputs only [17:19] you can't just assume certain outputs come on it [17:20] no, but ali1234 was talking about skylake IGP being fine and you replied to that saying no [17:20] you didn't specify that you were readjusting the conversation back to the box previous to ali1234 mentioning skylake [17:20] because i'm talking about a specific system and the outputs it has available - and diplo said 3 monitors [17:21] i don't see how you think that was required [17:32] https://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-from-a-single-displayport-output/ [17:33] ali1234: still need three cables :-p [17:33] [17:34] these old computer chronicles programs are epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2rxImyGYE [17:36] displayport daisy chaining requires premium displays with support, they don't all just do it [17:36] listen, i don't say these things for fun - i have the experience to back it up [17:36] and you need three monitors! (even my setup only has two :-( *pout*) [17:37] three monitors is just decadent [17:37] although, I kinda want 6x24inch [17:38] my setup is evil, the two 24inch monitors I have are different aspect ratios [17:42] not me, i only have two too - and they're gonna be 10 years old next year :> [17:42] :-o [17:43] still rocking displayport 1.1 [17:43] nearly old enoughh to vote! [17:43] I really drool over 4k 24 inch screens [17:44] i think that'd be too small for that res [17:44] mine are standard 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 [17:44] i always hear these g-sync or freesync 144Hz ones are the best thing since sliced bread, but i've not seen one in person [17:45] nah, they're only any benefit if you're a gamer IMO [17:45] well yeah, i do game [17:45] I don't :-p [17:45] but a mate has seen one and says they even improve the desktop XD [17:46] 2 months and almost a week on and i'm still waiting on the bathroom quotes, oy [17:46] grr [17:46] that's a hellish wait [17:46] still it means you get to see kitties every shower :-p [17:47] ;) it does! the shower room i use is in the basement, so when i go in i hear the little tappity tap of kitten paws as they follow me down [17:47] aww [17:47] so koot [17:47] Ooh, a human is here! Quick! === pendulum_ is now known as pendulum [18:01] wow, I didn't know this existed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Sidecar [18:06] I doubt it will run DOTA2 [18:06] lol [18:09] wonder how long my electric cupboard will take to dry-out? [18:09] there's not much ventilation so no air movement [18:10] get the 6000 packets of silica gel that have come in every electronic device you've opened... :-P [18:10] lol [18:11] that reminds me, i had a brainwave of putting those packets between my ghetto secondary glazing (5mm perspex sheets screwed atop my windows) to reduce the mould buildup [18:12] would probably work - but will probably need them replacing frequently [18:13] indeed [18:13] only seems to need a scrub for spring as they come down then anyway on most [18:14] fill the entire window with rice [18:14] \o/ [18:14] move the window to the sahara... [18:15] move the planet closer to the sun [18:15] you'd need to get a quote from musk on that... [18:16] musk is going into neurological field with his investments - wants to interface humans and machines [18:16] ref: http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs [18:16] go to a korean internet cafe... [18:16] you think he'd sort out daftykins' windows first though [18:17] he thought gates was taking care of daftykins windows... [18:18] diddledan: yeah that could be dangerous [18:18] he's too busy curing world diseases [18:18] davmor2: the musk neuralink or my electricity & water combo? [18:18] diddledan: both [18:18] :-p [18:18] but my place is a fully listed 16th/17th century townhouse so yeah, no double glazing for me [18:19] dang [18:19] sucky nuts [18:20] it was gonna be 2017, year of the insulated roof - until the bathroom drama [18:25] grow a beard for insulation... [18:40] daftykins: I already knew you like living in the past, but you've taken it to a new level in my understanding :-) [18:42] * zmoylan-pi nods approvingly of the clinging to ancient technology... :-P [18:47] * diddledan bashes zmoylan-pi with a compaq proliant [18:47] (one of those was underneath the water in my leccy-cupboard) [18:47] * zmoylan-pi fends off diddledan with ast pc [18:49] thems are heavy beasts! [18:49] solid metal cases... no plastics... no sireee [18:51] one of these jobbies (though I remember the model number different .. /me goes to check) http://www.surfplus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Compaq-Proliant-ML370-1.jpg [18:52] yeah, mine say they're 1600R [18:52] i think that was the one that landed on my foot when desk collapsed under it... [18:52] not ML370 [18:53] the delivery man loved when he had two of them to deliver to my second-floor flat a decade ago [18:54] hopefully you left them out when you were finished with them so some thief needing a hernia installed could have a go... [18:54] lol [18:54] I still have them :-p [18:55] I should get them running again [18:55] got three of them [18:55] i remember the blog of an admin who took a full tower pc, filled it with wet cement and left it on his porch for entertainment... first time it only made it about 50metres iirc [18:56] haha. that's some serious trolling! [18:56] needed a camera setup to record the fiefs [18:56] think of it as teaching the less fortunate :-P [18:56] (fief is how we spell theive!) [19:01] I used to aspire to one of these setups: http://h20564.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/imageServlet?DOCID=emr_na-c00376737-7/c00406574.jpg [19:01] marshmn: i live inside the past! [19:02] marshmn: although that still pisses me off saying that since i had discless playback with Kodi at home before you'd had your first whiff of streaming services ;) [19:04] daftykins: I tried to do the same with linuxmce.org - I failed [19:04] many moons ago [19:07] looks like they're trying to do a lot in that [19:30] oh my, Aliens in stick form - http://i.imgur.com/3238SN8.gifv [19:30] well, chubby sticks :P [19:32] lol [19:41] * zmoylan-pi wonders how long it would take a 3d printer to make a small wall decoration... :-P http://68.media.tumblr.com/3beb60eaeec1e76dd4dbb110873c8a84/tumblr_n3hwa472J91tp5udno1_1280.jpg [19:42] eek [19:42] imagine having one of those above a bed in a hotel [19:42] preferably invisible from all angles except when you look up from lying on the bed [19:42] on a timer to appear from a recess at night over the bed and the flash the lights... [19:42] or that ^ [19:43] the resulting scream will be billed as your wake up call for the rest of the hotel/town... [19:43] lol [19:43] or rest of LV427 [19:51] or don't flash the lights. just drip cold liquid onto person till they flip the light switch and see 'drooling' xenomorph... [19:52] survivors get a discount on health insurance as they're guaranteed not to have heart attack in next year... :-P [19:54] unless they stay again! [19:55] yeah... they'll ever willingly go asleep in a dark room again... [19:56] speaking of hotels i just email'd the manager of the one beside me to tell him their pub free wifi access point is borked [19:56] probably have to be coaxed out with a warm blanky and pack of choccy hobnobs... [19:56] you didn't hack it better? :-P [19:56] mmm, choccy nobnobs [19:59] hah, either a power fault or just the unit faulty - 'twas PoE [19:59] he also unplugged it in front of me, but still fell over every 5 mins [20:00] sounds donald... [20:02] was it installed by pub or outsourced to some comapny? [20:03] installed a new hp printer today... it wanted to create a cloud account to activate the printer... [20:03] they have made the mistake of being handled by a local IT company under a managed contract [20:03] one i know well, as their labour rate is £95/hr which includes time spent calling in, for small biz [20:03] ah... [20:07] if sent to fix it when i left i would either have it working for a few days between reboots scheduled at 3am or kill it with a hammer and replace it. [20:10] reboot was already a no-go, she's dead, Jim [22:27] http://www.html5zombo.com/