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Delvienspotter its mounted from another computer, or shared with smb?00:02
spotterI mount it on media players I have and its my whole home dir thats shared and is mounted in windows00:03
Delvienspotter its never a good idea to share your entire home folder with the network00:03
spotternothing else seems to disappearing though00:04
Delvienspotter systemctl disable smb00:05
andyworkAnnoyed: I am a bit curious about this as well.. For now, if i want to do any geeky stuffs and not use the terminal i tend to use Synaptic, which is pretty okay00:05
Delvienspotter once thats done try to see if its happening again00:05
spotteryea, I'm going to be out of the country for a month, so can do that without hurting my workflow00:06
spottercreate a bunch of empty dirs00:06
Delvienspotter well i cant really help if you arent able to do some troubleshooting, first thing i would do is unshare your home folder and share only specific folders. With your home folder, someone that has access to that can really mess with you00:08
spotterif someone else has access to my home network (i.e. live alone) I have bigger issues00:09
Delvienspotter do you have wifi?00:09
kenrinI'd just make an ACL on the empty dir and see what hits it the logs later00:09
kenrinor would that not work via samba..  duh00:10
spotteryes, but all associated MACs are identifiable by me00:10
spotterand I use WPA200:10
Delvienspotter wifi isnt fool proof, why risk it imo00:10
DelvienWPA2* i meant00:11
Delvienwhile its very hard to hack wpa2, still, why share something like that and not add another layer, without hurting your workflow00:11
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undriedsea Any iptables gurus out there?00:23
undriedsea I am trying to figure out what I am doing wrong...00:23
undriedsea  iptables -t raw -A PREROUTING -i $IFACE -p tcp --dport 80 -m tcp -j CT --notrack00:23
undriedsea iptables -A INPUT -i $IFACE -p tcp --dport 80 -m tcp -j ACCEPT00:23
undriedsea iptables -t raw -A OUTPUT -o $IFACE -p tcp --sport 80 -m tcp -j CT --notrack00:23
undriedsea ^ This rule set doesn't seem to be opening up TCP:30 (stateless fw)00:23
bazhang#netfilter undriedsea00:24
undriedseaThanks :)00:24
basil-pestohi everyone. Anyone seen an issue with Shutter where every screenshot taken is just a tiled image of the shutter icon?00:41
basil-pestowhen i try selection, it changes my entire screen to black display with the shutter desktop icon everywhere. When I do a screenshot of a window or whole screen, the saved image is just a black background with the icons.00:41
Oderushello. having wifi troubles with staying connected I believe related to my upload speed. anything above 20kb/s and it crashes. I have a thread started here https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?71631-Wifi-Blues/page1&s=50fdbb118872fb976d61fb482547c30e  if anyone can take a look it would be appreciated. thank you.00:50
mbryantmsls00:50
dubzyyCan I ask questions in this channel?00:58
RedPenguinyes00:58
dubzyyI'm new to Ubuntu and recently bought a wifi adapter that is linux compatible . I'm like 2 days into using ubuntu and have no clue how to install the driver00:59
dubzyyI called their support line and I asked do other linux users ever call for help?01:00
dubzyyThe girl said no because if they are using linux they know what they are doing LOL01:00
dubzyyWe both laughed and I agree and know a great deal needs to be done in terminal01:01
dubzyyBut I love the whole feel of it and in 2 days actually hate windows01:01
acheron-adubzyy, usually a good search on the net will reveal an answer for you01:03
dubzyyI found a few but they were adapters using reltek chipset01:03
dubzyyand using ubuntu 1201:03
acheron-areltek should be supported , what model?01:04
Oderusdubzyy : whats the issue with it?01:04
dubzyyno issue01:04
dubzyyI dont even know how to install it01:05
acheron-ais it one that goes on the MB or a card slot?01:05
acheron-ajust install it and boot the system01:05
Oderusyes there shouldnt be anything else you have to do01:06
acheron-aubuntu 16.04 should be good with it01:06
Bashing-omdubzyy: In most cases the kernel will auto detect drivers it needs . in cases where it does not, see what the "Additional Driver" utility offers .01:07
fishcookerhow to check the hard disk is ok or not?01:07
Oderusdubzyy: theres always this package if you have difficulty https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/firmware-realtek/download01:07
Bashing-omfishcooker: Health wise or file system wise ?01:08
danyhola01:08
danyhablanespañol?01:08
Delvien!es01:08
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:08
danyahh okok01:09
Didact69ok, so like I got these two interfaces and they were automatically called enp350 and enp0s25, can I just edit the interfaces file and change that?01:14
Didact69to eth0 and eth101:14
Bashing-omDidact69: NO, see: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ if ya going to try and work around the system .01:16
Bashing-omdubzyy: What results when you plug in the USB device ?01:18
OderusDidact69: http://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-0401:18
jnewti keep randomly losing the top and bottom "bars" on my mate desktop.  no idea why.  can still click around and menu will appear or window will open01:21
Oderusjnewt: are they set up to autohide?01:21
Didact69k, ty01:21
Didact69the documentation for NAT calls one eth1 and eth0 hence I'm trying to use the system01:22
jnewtOderus: is that default?  I didn't set anything to change from default.01:22
Oderusjnewt: no that shouldnt be default01:22
jnewtthen no, it shouldn't be set to autohide wherever that setting is.01:23
nealshirehow do I exit grep? ctrl-c isn't working01:23
Bashing-omDidact69: Keep in mind eth0 == upstart .. where as 16.04++ is systemd .01:23
jnewtOderus: and even if it were, i can't get them back by clicking or moving cursor to top or bottom01:24
Oderusjnewt: that's quite odd, i will see if theres anything I can figure out01:24
Didact69Bashing-om: yeah I really don't know what those are... so it seems like changing the interface names is bad01:25
Bashing-omDidact69: Agreed, changing the names is not the best thing .01:27
nealshireI ran the command "grep sshd.*Did /var/log/auth.log | less" and I can't get out using ctrl-c or etc01:27
kenrinif you are using less usually you just hit q01:29
nealshirethats it thanks01:29
Bashing-om nealshire Now a zombie process ? Any return ' ps aux | grep 'Z'01:30
snowkrash how can i make find -name to print the timestamp of files01:30
ethanoppHey all, can anybody help out with a quick VPN01:30
ethanoppquestion?01:30
jnewtethanopp, are you going to ask it?01:32
ethanoppHa yes! Sorry was trying to make sure I asked correctly01:33
ethanoppI have a NAS that I am hosting an OpenVPN server on... If I connect to it from outside (lets say an iPhone) that traffic would be encrypted, but since the NAS is just connected to my home network, would that traffic out to the ISP not be encrypted?01:34
jnewtcorrect01:34
Oderusjnewt: sorry i can't seem to find anything on your issue. i suggest creating a thread in the https://ubuntu-mate.community/ as your best option01:35
Didact69so, is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing this correct that I should be able to use the network manager nm-connection-editor to do NAT?01:35
ethanoppSo for the purposes of anonymity, a NAS to be used as a VPN server doesnt really make sense...Right?01:36
jnewtOderus: thanks for looking.  I think there's some issue with graphics on my system when running linux. i had another issue i posted on the ubuntu section of SO a month or so ago, but never got any response.  I'll try the mate community you suggested.  It's been a frustrating transition to linux on my desktop (server was a breeze).01:37
jnewtI want to get to the point where I don't have to dual boot any more, but am still a long way off and windows 7 support isn't going to last forever.01:38
jnewtby support i mean security updates01:39
Delvienjnewt do you have an incredibly old GPU or something?01:41
jnewtDelvien: nvidia quadro m200001:41
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Delvienjnewt thats fairly recent.... have you installed the proprietary drivers?01:42
jnewtDelvien: yeah, not even sure my problems are graphics related, like I said, i posted some info on SO, had ton's of looks and no responses.01:43
Delvienjnewt mind you: I wasnt here when that convo went on.01:44
Delvienjnewt whats SO?01:45
jnewtDelvien: so i have three issues.  one is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/880691/problems-over-xrdp-vnc-and-x2go , another is portions of windows being black when resuming from lock and the last is the bars at the top and bottom disappearing01:45
jnewtDelvien, Stack overflow (i guess the ubuntu section is called askubuntu)01:46
Delvienjnewt: nvidia-settings01:47
DelvienSegmentation fault (core dumped)01:47
Delvienjnewt: thats not good :P01:47
Delvienjnewt:  oh wait this is xrdp okay, one sec01:49
jnewtDelvien: it happens with xrdp, vnc and x2go01:49
jnewtthe method of connection makes no difference.01:49
Oderushello. having wifi troubles with staying connected I believe related to my upload speed. anything above 20kb/s and it crashes. I have a thread started here https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?71631-Wifi-Blues/page1&s=50fdbb118872fb976d61fb482547c30e  if anyone can take a look it would be appreciated. thank you. also cannot connect to any 5g networks.01:50
Delvienjnewt: running apps through xrdp matters. indirect GLX can cause segfaults,01:50
Delvienjnewt:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/795418/open-gui-apps-on-a-ubuntu-16-04-machine-via-ssh-from-an-ubuntu-14-04-machine this may help01:51
jnewtDelvien: my favorite part is where chrome tells me GLX 1.3 or later is required, yet I have 1.401:53
jnewtso what, i'm supposed to create a symlink because some program can't find one of it's necessary components?01:55
Delvienjnewt run the application through the terminal with strace. ex: strace ssh@foo01:57
Delvienjnewt at least it will give you an idea of the actual error, since "seg fault" is so broad01:57
jnewtlrwxrwxrwx   1 root root       23 Jan 18 14:31 libGLX_indirect.so.0 -> libGLX_nvidia.so.378.09   (I already have a symlink for libGLX_indirect.so.001:58
Delvienjnewt as far as the glx 1.3 error that chrome spewed, seems to be a bug reaching back to 2011, several posts said you can ignore the message. Whether thats true or not, I wouldnt know02:02
Delvienjnewt: Unfortunately I have no way of testing this for myself since I do not have X on my server. run the strace before your remote x apps, google the errors02:05
Didact69Well it looks like I want to use the  nm-connection-editor and I don't understand what to do02:06
chatter29hey guys02:08
chatter29allah is doing02:08
DelvienDidact69: with no preface of what problem youre having, no one knows how to help you02:08
chatter29sun is not doing allah is doing02:08
chatter29to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger02:08
Delvienchatter29 This is not the place for religion, this is an ubuntu support channel02:08
Didact69I want to set up NAT on 2 ethernet devices using the gui  nm-connection-editor02:09
poco_hey tgm4883 remember me? I was the guy with the full / drive that couldn't do anything?02:11
DelvienDidact69: Should be relatively straightforward, edit connections  and setup from there on both machines. You may want to google some guides.02:13
Didact69yeah, I'm searching for guides and getting close it seems02:14
Didact69so, I want to "share" the outisde connection via the ethernet connection ?02:15
jnewtsudo service lightdm stop stops my mate session (good), but doesn't give me a command line, just something about blocks being clean and a cursor where I can't type02:15
jnewthow do i get the command line?02:15
Didact69(the biggest problem that I'm dual booting to Ubuntu and then rebooting and coming back here to ask questions)02:16
jnewtyou need another computer or an app on your phone Didact6902:17
Didact69this is the other computer02:17
Didact69the "server" is a fedora box02:17
Didact69which does the NAT, but I'm trying to switch to UBUNTU cuz of the LTS02:18
Basketballis there a way to hide the url bar in epiphany02:18
poco_anyone have any idea why my / disk thinks my /mnt/ folder that has my network SMB shares is part of my / disk and is constantly showing up full?02:21
poco_even when I unmount the shares?02:21
poco_tgm4883, and Bashing-om were helping me out before but I already ruled out everything else from last time02:24
jnewtnvidia won't let me install the new driver with mate running.  if i do sudo service lightdm stop i don't get a prompt.  if  i remove quiet splash vt.handoff and add single to the linux line in grub, i get a garbled looking test that is trying to be a command line / prompt02:24
poco_Baobab is pointing me to this rsync I did of my Home directory under /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase/WOPR-user-SYNC2/ as taking up the space (97GB) but that path is on a networked drive!02:26
jnewti'd share a photo of the garbledness, but i can't open photos on my phone, shotwell wants to take over but then fails to claim the usb device02:27
Didact69how do u do screen shots on ubuntu ?02:28
Didact6916.0402:28
acheron-awindows key - screenshot02:29
Didact69k, ty02:29
kenrinpoco_:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/780945/samba-local-copy-speed-insufficient-disk-space02:29
kenrinSamba is a hacked reverse engineeringed tool.  You may want to switch to NFS02:29
jnewtanyone know how to access my phone's photos?  iphone 5s02:32
jnewti see a folder called store_00010001 but when i click on it there is nothing inside and shotwell photo manager fails to claim the device when i click the little convenience button in the folder02:33
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poco_thanks kenrin I don't think this exactly helps but it's closer than what I've found02:37
kenrinThere was a post on the raspberry pi forum to just mount them at root level02:37
kenrinNot sure if that would fix the same on buntu,  worth a try02:38
poco_kenrin, hmm but I think the issue is that my machine thinks things mounted under / (except my home folder) are part of the / drive02:39
kenrinYep02:39
Jordan_Ujnewt: Why are you trying to install Nvidia drivers this way? Unless you have a compelling specific reason to install drivers from nvidia's website rather than the repositories then you are installing them the *wrong way*.02:40
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poco_kenrin, about switching to NFS- can windows/mac do NFS alright? I need to access the same information across windows, mac, linux and mobile devices02:41
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kenrinmac can do it native.  windows would need some extra tools02:42
poco_kenrin, damn. ugh why is it so hard to share files across platforms?02:43
kenrinNobody likes agreeing on a standard.  Why do you think there are 1000000 different linux distros O.o02:43
poco_kenrin, good point02:44
poco_kenrin, but then again, why can't everyone just pick what standards *I* want??02:44
kenrinApparently windows 10 pro or win 7 ulti | enteprise editions can do NFS native if you install it from the windows features02:44
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poco_kenrin, ah yes what a premium feature /s02:45
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jnewtif i try to boot without de, i get garbled text.  if i shutdown the de after starting it, i get no prompt.  i can't install new gfx drivers until i can get to the command line without the de (according to nvidia error message when trying to install).  help?02:56
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ChaiTRexjnewt: Have you tried using single user mode in the GRUB boot menu?02:57
jnewtChaiTRex, that's how i got the garbled command line (removed quiet splash vt.handoff, added single)02:58
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hggdhCardamon: please stop with the noise03:02
Cardamonbruh fuck you #ubuntu03:02
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K-arch.03:21
lostgoathey guys, you probably get this question every other day. But I haven't been able to track the right docs03:34
lostgoatback in the day there was a prepare-ppa target for the ubuntu kernel builds03:34
lostgoatThis seems to have been removed, on the docs here it says it was being cleaned up03:34
lostgoathttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/UDS/May200803:34
lostgoatdebian/rules help didn't show much of anything related to that, and I'm pretty sure I'm probably missing something dumb03:35
phi_is there anyway to fix this issue guys? http://askubuntu.com/questions/898062/text-editor-unicode-font-rendering-chromium03:38
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caonima你好04:07
TatouBash question: How do I pipe from cat to the next command?04:08
TatouScenario: I want to read a ssh pub key and sed to a remote ssh server04:08
phi_anyone know how to fix this font issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/898062/text-editor-unicode-font-rendering-chromium04:12
caninodev_phi_: it looks like an anti-aliasing issue?04:20
phi_@caninodev_ I don't know but it is just happen in some text editor in browser04:21
caninodev_so are there really 1785 users on this channel butit is this quiet?04:22
phi_caninodev_ some character like this "ế" will not display correctly04:22
caninodev_when you say "not display correctly" fo you mean it uses the wrong glyph?04:22
caninodev_phi_: or that it is illegible?04:23
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phi_caninodev_, it look ugly04:24
caninodev_look into antialiasing then.. if it appears like that universally througout the desktop, may wan t to go to system settings- > appearance04:25
caninodev_ phi_: apologies, depending what DM you are running. using tweak-tools --> fonts04:26
phi_caninodev_, I changed all the possible fonts but nothing works04:28
caninodev_phi_ no no, not the font.. What DM are you running again?04:28
phi_caninodev_, even in hexchat is it not display correctly04:28
phi_caninodev_, you mean display manager?04:29
caninodev_phi_: desktop manager.. unity, kde, gnome?04:29
phi_caninodev_, Xfce04:29
caninodev_phi_: go to Appearance --> Font --> and fiddle with the anti-alias feature04:31
lakitucan you write bd-rs in ubuntu (yet)?04:31
phi_caninodev_, so I need to change the dpi?04:31
lakituif so - would i just do it with k3b, or whatever?04:31
caninodev_phi_: Under Rendering there should be a text box Enable Anti-Alias04:32
phi_caninodev_, already checked04:32
* lakitu not burning copyrighted stuff.04:32
caninodev_phi_: make hinting slightly instead of full or vice versa?04:33
phi_caninodev_, it seems this solution not work and the font issue stay the same04:33
caninodev_then look to the font itself04:33
phi_caninodev_, hmm04:35
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lakituit looks like you CAN burn blu-rays in ubuntu, this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray_Burning04:49
lakituthanks04:49
ablesthi how do install skype on ubuntu?05:05
EriC^^!skype | ablest05:06
ubottuablest: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga05:06
ablestty05:06
EriC^^np05:06
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renatosilvawhat's the current default chat application in ubuntu?05:21
geez[m]Empathy I believe05:22
Meadon the live boot I have running infront of me, there is no chat program.05:23
Meadand the only irc client I can installfrom "ubuntu software" without having a username and PW to whatever is xchat-gnome which I've crashed many times simply doing basic IRC commands05:27
baizon!info hexchat Mead05:29
ubottu'Mead' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed, zesty, zesty-backports, zesty-p05:29
baizon!info hexchat | Mead05:30
ubottuMead: hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.12.0-2ubuntu2.1 (yakkety), package size 336 kB, installed size 971 kB05:30
MeadI know what hexchat is, but to install it via the "ubuntu software" app it requires a username and PW, in he app it has a non-free tag.05:34
baizonMead: install it from the terminal then05:35
baizonMead: have you tried just pressing "ok"?05:35
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:37
Meadthere is no "OK" there are three options, I have a ubuntu single sign-on account, I want to register, and I've forgotten my PW.  With a "continue button" to advance to the next step05:38
baizonMead: yes, use the terminal then05:38
Meadthat is a  "Ubuntu One" window that pops up05:38
MeadIf I was comfortable with and knew how to  install software from the cli, why would I ever use that app?05:39
baizonMead: well, then report it as a bug05:40
MeadI doubt it is a bug,  I think canonial wants people to make accounts05:42
lotuspsychjeMead: yes its normal, tested it yesterday05:42
lotuspsychjeMead: from ubuntu-software you need the ubuntu one account to install some snaps05:43
baizonah i forgot, for snaps you do need a account05:44
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azidhaka__hi! what happens when i enable kernel livepatch on my 16.04 ant there is a new kernel available for apt-get updating?05:45
andovtwl05:49
lotuspsychje!livepatch | azidhaka__05:50
ubottuazidhaka__: Canonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 16.04 installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at http://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch05:50
lotuspsychjeazidhaka__: see also #ubuntu-server05:50
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BlitzerHoundIs this the wrong place to ask about trying to install Fallout on ubuntu? Something keeps going wrong with it.06:10
ivan_i want to use flash player on 3rd party application but unable to but more specifically its called think or swim which is financial trading platform, any ideas06:11
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_laceylaneyHey guys. Huawei p9 phone connected to my laptop perfectly via usb. Since reinstalling ubuntu at the weekend the phone no longer connects properly. Anyone any ideas ?? Appears only in lsusb but not gparted or anything else...06:25
_laceylaneyI know the phone is still connecting somewhat ok because the cd part containing the windows installer stuff still automounts and appears ok.06:27
_laceylaneyI had a look last night in dmsg but couldn't see any sort of errors.06:27
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iceyThis morning I can't run apt: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24279404/06:37
iceyrunning yakkety06:39
tinteresudo apt-get --fix-missing gives error?06:39
tintereSo what is the right command for it?06:39
iceyapt or apt-get (with any or no) args gives that error06:39
tintereI am confused with all this --fix-missing06:39
ducassetintere: try 'apt-get install --fix-missing' instead06:40
_laceylaney@icey that is one very strange error. Never seen anything like that befkre06:40
iceyme too _laceylaney06:40
tintereI also can't update06:40
tintere Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)06:40
iceyapparently it can happen on upgrades but this machine hasonly ever been 16.1006:41
tintereIn firefox it says " This network may require you to login to use the internet"06:41
* dmt tests fonts06:41
tintereI have never encountered this before, and I get lots of shasum failed errors06:41
Ben64so.. login06:42
tintereBen64: how? Where?06:42
tintereI don't get it06:42
Ben64idk, check with whoever owns the network06:42
tintereMy ISP?06:42
Ben64maybe your router got hacked06:43
tintereSo what? router is just a firewall. And I already have the OS firewall.06:43
Ben64no06:43
tintereWould you like to expound a bit?06:44
Ben64completely wrong and not related to ubuntu support so doesn't really belong here06:44
BlitzerHoundJust asking again, is there anyone that can help me install fallout on ubuntu? Sorry, I don't know if I'm supposed to ask more than once. :x06:48
ducasseBlitzerHound: is that a steam game?06:50
hateballIt's windows only06:50
hateball!wine | BlitzerHound06:50
ubottuBlitzerHound: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:50
BlitzerHoundNo, I downloaded the gog windows installer06:50
MustaKrakishHey guys, what could this mean? org.gtk.vfs.Daemon[1858]: ** (process:26989): WARNING **: Couldn't create directory monitor on smb://x-gnome-default-workgroup/. Error: The specified location is not mounted06:53
MustaKrakishfinding it in journal06:53
ducasseit's just a gtk warning, a lot of applications spew out a few.06:57
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BlitzerHoundHow can I see how much vram I have?07:24
EriC^^BlitzerHound: free -h07:24
EriC^^fallout isn't going to work in wine i guess07:25
BlitzerHoundThanks07:25
EriC^^nevermind, i was thinking vm, wine can use gpu right?07:25
BlitzerHoundUhhh... I dunno. Someone's helping me with the setup and stuff but I don't know how much vram I have07:25
BlitzerHoundThis says total 990M07:25
EriC^^1gb ram07:26
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Kiryat8why is my kern.log 11,1 GB? I have a small SSD and this is a problem. Should it be this large?07:33
BlitzerHoundWhat's the thing to paste text to show here?07:36
PipeItToDevNullpastebin07:36
ikevinKiryat8, does logrotate is installed?07:36
BlitzerHoundOh07:36
ducasse!pastebin | BlitzerHound07:37
ubottuBlitzerHound: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:37
ikevinBlitzerHound, termbin is easy to use07:37
Kiryat8I see now that it contains [UFW AUDIT] lines so I turned off Firewall logging. logrotate is installed. What is the synatx for a manual rotate. I will read to see if it is in a cron job07:40
ikevinKiryat8, yes it's a cron job07:40
ducasseKiryat8: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate07:42
cuikaihello07:42
lotuspsychjecuikai: welcome, how can we help you?07:43
mcphailBlitzerHound: easiest way to install Fallout (gog version) on ubuntu is to install the playonlinux package from the repos, and get it to set things up for you07:43
BlitzerHoundYeah, I'm using playonlinux. I kind of asked the wrong question. It's installed, but it won't start.07:43
BlitzerHoundWhen I start it, terminal tells me this and then the game just never starts up07:44
BlitzerHoundhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24279565/07:44
ducasseBlitzerHound: you better ask in #winehq07:45
BlitzerHoundI'll do that. Thanks. :307:45
Kiryat8thanks07:45
lotuspsychjeBlitzerHound: there is also a very active #gamingonlinux community if you like07:46
mcphailBlitzerHound: I would guess it is looking for the 32 bit versions of the mesa libraries. These are usually installed by the ubuntu wine package (i think) which gets installed by default when you install playonlinux from the repos (again, iirc). Where did you install playonlinux from?07:47
BlitzerHoundI just did apt get playonlinux07:47
lotuspsychjeBlitzerHound: doublecheck sudo lshw -C video to see if your graphic drivers installed correctly also?07:48
ikevini think it's a graphic driver issue to07:49
BlitzerHoundIt just said Segmentation fault (core dumped)07:49
ikevinBlitzerHound, can you do a: glxinfo | nc termbin.com 9999 and give us the link returned07:50
BlitzerHoundhttp://termbin.com/v59b07:50
BlitzerHoundWait so the terminal will automatically post stuff to termbin?07:51
ikevinBlitzerHound, when using "| nc termbin.com 9999" yes07:52
BlitzerHoundThis terminal thing never ceases to amaze me.07:52
HaohmaruBlitzerHound not the terminal, the commands you type can do all kinds of stuff07:52
BlitzerHoundI'm used to windows. I've only been using ubuntu for like 2 weeks or so.07:53
BlitzerHoundAll of this stuff is still really new to me.07:53
lotuspsychjeBlitzerHound: welcome to the ubuntu community07:56
BlitzerHoundAww, thanks. You guys have been incredibly helpful thus far, which is more than I can say about any other OS based community I've been in. Which... I've not been in any others, but the fact still stands. :D07:56
ikevinBlitzerHound, can you do a: dpkg -l | grep -i mesa | nc termbin.com 999907:59
BlitzerHoundhttp://termbin.com/5erp08:00
BlitzerHoundI don't think #winehq likes me lol08:01
ikevinare you using a 32b version of ubuntu?08:02
niggardhi boons, how to fix tearing?08:03
hateballniggard: what GPU/driver do you use?08:03
BlitzerHoundUhhhhh I dunno08:06
bhaasuHello08:06
BlitzerHoundHii08:06
bhaasuI am getting error when trying to run snort08:06
niggardhateball: nvidia gpu with driver 34008:07
lotuspsychjebhaasu: snort runs as service08:07
lotuspsychjebhaasu: you can check snort logs to see whats going on08:07
bhaasuI am getting this - https://pastebin.com/sF840Q6X08:07
hateballniggard: ah, 340... hmmm. I dunno if compiz has any tearing prevention. also I *think* 340 driver supports the TripleBuffer option but I am not sure08:08
hateballniggard: had it been a more recent driver you could have used ForceFullCompositionPipeline, but I dont think that it is in 34008:08
bhaasulotuspsychje ?08:08
niggardhateball: how to install an older version of nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig?08:08
ikonianiggard: why would you want that08:09
hateballniggard: anyhow it's easy enough to test if 340 supports it, just run the following in a terminal: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="$(xrandr | sed -nr '/(\S+) connected (primary )?[0-9]+x[0-9]+(\+\S+).*/{ s//\1: nvidia-auto-select \3 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, /; H }; ${ g; s/\n//g; s/, $//; p }')"08:09
ikoniayou should use the version that is supplied by the current supported package08:09
niggardikonia: because I've installed nvidia settings 378.13 which is a different fork08:10
lotuspsychjebhaasu: this looks like your error: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/snort-error-can%27t-start-daq-1-socket-operation-not-permitted-4175480943/08:10
ikonianiggard: ??08:10
niggardikonia: 340 vs 37808:10
ikonianiggard: nvidia-settings comes from the driver version08:10
ikevinniggard, apt-cache show nvidia-settings , see availlable version then apt-get install nvidia-settings=<version you want>08:10
Haohmaruhateball "easy" eh? ;P~08:10
BlitzerHoundWhere on earth do you guys get these crazy commands from? Do you have that memorized or did you just copy it from some record you have or something?08:10
ikoniayou don't mix and match08:10
hateballHaohmaru: copy/paste isnt hard :)08:10
niggardikonia: at first I didn't know which driver to install and installed 37808:11
lotuspsychje!manual | BlitzerHound08:11
ubottuBlitzerHound: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/08:11
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niggardhateball: thanks, will try as soon as I downgrade nvidia-settings08:11
hateballniggard: remove nvidia-settings, disable the nvidia ppa, install nvidia-settings from main repo08:11
ikevinikonia, nop, nvidia-settings is the same for all nvidia drivers08:11
lotuspsychjeBlitzerHound: we learn every day here, the more you experiment, the more you will learn08:11
Haohmarui had severe issues with the nvidia 340 driver from nvidia.com08:11
BlitzerHoundThat's why I'm here still even while I don't have any problems.08:12
BlitzerHoundI learn a lot from the troubleshooting that goes on here08:12
Haohmarui even broke the lubuntu.. then i reinstalled it and this time i just used apt-get to obtain nvidia 340.. and it's working08:12
niggardcan't figure out how to remove nvidia ppa. 'add-apt-repository --remove ppa:nvidia/ppa' says it cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~nvidia/ubuntu/ppa' and that the user named '~nvidia' does not have any PPA.08:14
niggardare PPAs tied to users of the system?08:15
hateball!ppa-purge08:15
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html08:15
hateballniggard: or just use the software updater gui and config sources, untick the entries for the ppa08:16
kopykatcan someone help me setup a cron job?08:18
lotuspsychje!cron | kopykat08:19
ubottukopykat: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto08:19
kopykati wanna check if a process is running, and if its down to start it08:21
EriC^^kopykat: why dont you start it using systemd and maybe it can do that for you?08:21
niggardstill can't figure out how to remove the ppa: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ has graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety    .list and .list.save files08:21
niggardwhat's subdirectory for it?08:22
ikoniayoure in it08:22
ikonianiggard: how are you trying to remove the ppa08:22
niggardikonia: 'ppa-purge graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety'08:23
niggardwho's ppaowner?08:25
niggardroot?08:25
ikonia??? owner08:25
ikoniawhat are you talking about08:25
niggardreading man ppa-purge08:25
ikonianiggard: what is the exact command you use and what is the error you get08:25
ikoniause a pastebin08:25
niggardthat's also what add-apt-repository --remove seems to expect08:25
niggardikonia: I'd rather hear what command I should run instead08:27
abaddonadd-apt-repository -r is how I've been doing it @ikonia08:27
abaddon--remove might work as well08:28
kopykatEric^^ i dont know how to use systemd. I was trying to create a scheduled task08:28
kopykati know you want people to learn from their own questions, but cant read up al this right now.08:29
EriC^^nah i'm not a psychologist, i just wanted to offer a better solution08:30
lotuspsychje!systemd | kopykat suggested by EriC^^08:30
ubottukopykat suggested by EriC^^: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units08:30
kopykati meant it with the best intentions08:31
EriC^^systemd has a spawn feature that if the service stops it restarts it i think08:31
EriC^^kopykat: i know, i'm just kidding08:31
EriC^^check the link lotuspsychje gave, there's an example you can use08:31
EriC^^first link08:32
kopykati m in 14.04.08:32
EriC^^kopykat: ah nevermind then08:32
lotuspsychjeoh thats still init08:32
kopykatits best compatible for some services i must run08:32
kopykatok i ll try to find online something about cron08:32
kopykathere> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20162678/linux-script-to-check-if-process-is-running-act-on-the-result08:33
kopykatthere is a script about that08:33
ikonianiggard: what is the exact command you use and what is the error you get08:33
ikoniause a pastebin08:33
kopykatthe question i have is that i should create a .sh file> or paste the script as it is in cronjob08:34
ikoniakopykat: you'll find that easier and more flexible08:34
kopykatwhich one ikonia?08:34
EriC^^kopykat: no dont paste the script or itll run over and over unless it has a check in it08:34
EriC^^i mean it'll make several copies of itself08:35
kopykatok08:35
BlitzerHoundAlright, bed time for me. Goodnight all, and good luck with whatever you're doing. :308:35
niggardikonia: http://paste2.org/JAsdCfkA08:36
niggardI don't see how pasting incorrect commands helps08:36
EriC^^kopykat: you could make a script that has "if ! pgrep -x <your program name>; then /path/to/program; fi"08:37
kopykatwhen you say make a script, you mean save it as .sh file?08:38
EriC^^kopykat: yeah, more importantly though the first line has to have #!/bin/bash08:38
proxx_dont forget "chmod +x script.sh "08:39
proxx_and extension are meaningless under *nix , just a human reminder08:39
proxx_*extensions08:39
EriC^^kopykat: you also want to make sure the environment cron uses is ok for your script (different $PATH and whatnot)08:41
niggardjeez, why things have to be so obscure?08:41
EriC^^niggard: what are you trying to do?08:42
ikonianiggard: showing the command shows us what you are doing and may explain errors08:42
ikonianiggard: who is being obscure08:43
ikonianiggard: did you put sudo in front of that command ?08:43
niggardi am root. i am god.08:43
ikoniahow did you become root08:43
EriC^^ppa-purge won't work with non-launchpad ppa's you have to manually point it to the _Packages file08:43
niggardturns out the name of the ppa is ppa, and uzer is graphics-drivers08:43
niggardppa-purge is a useless piece of sh08:43
ikoniauser ?08:44
ikonianiggard: no it's not08:44
ikoniaand tone down the language08:44
ikoniathis is user error08:44
ikoniaso critisise yourself please08:44
niggardthis is not the user error08:44
niggardthis is poor docs08:44
ikoniathis is user error08:44
ikonianiggard: so is this PPA not hosted on launchpad ?08:44
niggardthe correct command was 'add-apt-repository --remove ppa:/graphics-drivers/ppa'08:44
ikoniathats removing the PPA08:45
ikonianot removing the packages08:45
niggardthat's what I needed08:45
niggardto remove a package I just apt-get remove it08:45
ikoniawhy are you removing the PPA if you're not removing the packages its installed ?08:45
ikoniathat will cause a problem08:45
ikoniano, as it won't be able to resolve dependencies for the remove without the PPA details08:45
niggardoh, well, shit08:46
ikonianiggard: stop with the language08:46
niggardwhat?08:47
ikoniaplease stop swearing08:47
niggardhow would I express my sadness otherwise?08:47
bazhangno cursing here niggard08:47
niggardthat's sad!08:47
ikonianiggard: as an adult without swearing08:47
proxx_political correctness struck all walks of life now08:47
bazhangdont type it niggard08:47
niggardas an adult I always swear08:47
niggardproxx_: yeah, that's sad08:47
ikonianiggard: as andult you can talk with other people in this channel without swearing08:47
ikoniait's not political correctness, it's polite manners and respect to the people you talk to in this channel08:48
ikoniait's a simple concept08:48
niggardikonia: that's hard, that's like blocking emotions08:48
bazhangniggard, thats enough please08:48
ikonianiggard: then you need to deal with that elsewhere as you may have a problem if you can't communicate without swearing08:48
niggardI see you are ops08:48
niggardops always act as cops08:49
niggardfreak tha police08:49
ikoniaI think you've got the point now, so please try to keep it clean08:49
niggardI don't see how it helps08:49
niggardcan I say 'freak you'?08:49
ikonianiggard: you don't need to08:49
ikoniathere is no need to talk to anyeone like that in this channel08:49
niggardfreak that bull-excrements08:50
abaddonHow did you lose chan ops status from that? @ikonia?08:51
ikoniaabaddon: I do-opped08:52
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abaddondo-opped?08:52
Haohmarude-opped08:52
ikoniaoops, de08:53
ikoniasorry08:53
abaddonOhhh....08:53
abaddonOK.08:53
abaddon!Tagging08:53
abaddon!Tag08:53
bazhangabaddon, /msg ubottu08:53
abaddonIt's been a bit.  how do I send a message to another without private but set it so they know you are messaging them specifically??08:57
abaddonI thought it was the @ symbol but I don't think so.08:58
k1lput their nickname in front of the message with tab completion08:58
bazhangabaddon, /msg user hi08:58
Haohmaruabaddon you could say it in a channel they are on, mention their nick and hope they have nick highlight enabled08:58
Haohmaruor /notice08:58
k1lnotice is not well seen on freenode08:59
Haohmaruk1l "seen" ?08:59
abaddonAhh, thank you. I think my xchat is missing the notice highlight or something.08:59
lotuspsychje!xchat | abaddon09:00
ubottuabaddon: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.09:00
Hao_e......09:01
Hao_every time i ping to my router(ping with -c100) ,it would lose about 5% packet....09:01
Haohmaruare you connected to it via a cable?09:02
abaddonlotuspsychje, bazhang, k1l Thank you for th info. I just installed xchat over hexchat too. <sigh>09:03
Hao_i use usb wifi dongle base rt5370 chip set09:03
PipeItToDevNullSo, does anyone know how neofetch or screenfetch identifies your OS?09:04
Hao_after ping ifconfig show that :09:04
Hao_http://paste.ubuntu.com/24279848/09:04
k1lPipeItToDevNull: lsb_release or /etc/issue?09:04
Hao_RX packets:444 errors:0 dropped:54 overruns:0 frame:009:05
proxx_rt and usb , have fun09:05
proxx_buy real hw09:05
Haohmaruuse an actual cable ;P~09:05
Hao_the dropped:54 means what ?09:05
lotuspsychjePipeItToDevNull: perhaps look into the manpage also?09:05
kopykatis root homde dir, /root  ?09:05
HaohmaruHao_ someone is stealing your packetz09:06
PipeItToDevNulllotuspsychje, Been throuhg it, unless I missed something it does not say.09:06
proxx_hackkrrzzz09:06
PipeItToDevNullk1l, Looking into lsb, it is not /etc/issue, just tried it09:06
bazhangHaohmaru, and proxx_ cut it out09:06
lotuspsychjePipeItToDevNull: why do you want to know exactly? screenfetch does its work no?09:07
proxx_I actually mean what I said , hw like that is almost impossible to get working09:07
proxx_pathetic driver support etc09:07
PipeItToDevNulllotuspsychje, Yes09:07
vbotkaHao_ rt5370 works fine for me in 16.04. You might want to check the quality of the signal. Try "iw wlan0 link"09:08
Hao_vbotka : i use it on 3.10 kernel ....09:11
HouminHi,I'm houmin. It's my first time to use IRC. hope not interrupting09:11
kopykatcan i paste one line here? or should i use pastebin?09:12
wrz3625Hao_: 3.10? isn't that a bit old?09:12
Haohmaruone line should be fine09:12
ducasseHao_: which ubuntu are you on?09:12
lotuspsychje!chat | Houmin welcome09:12
ubottuHoumin welcome: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:12
wrz3625Hao_: which version of ubuntu comes with kernel 3.10?!09:12
kopykatdoes this line look ok?09:13
kopykat@reboot pgrep servicedeamon > /dev/null || cd /Service/src && ./servicedeamon09:13
FMan1988hey, kopykat09:13
kopykati wanna start servicedeamon after each reboot09:13
kopykatit s root09:13
k1lHao_: what ubuntu is that?09:13
k1lHao_: "lsb_release -d" will tell you09:14
lotuspsychjemorning cfhowlett09:14
cfhowlettyowza! ^3 lotuspsychje09:14
Hao_kil : not on pc,  just embeded  board.....09:15
EriC^^kopykat: no09:16
EriC^^kopykat: that'll always run it09:17
EriC^^kopykat: try "true || echo bla && echo blabla" to see what i mean09:18
EriC^^kopykat: try like this maybe "true || (echo bla && echo blabla)"09:19
kopykatEric^^ what do you mean it will always run it?09:20
EriC^^i mean the if condition is off09:21
EriC^^try the example above to see what i mean09:21
lotuspsychje!tab | Houmin09:21
ubottuHoumin: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:21
proxx_right09:24
ducasseHao_: and what is this board running?09:26
independentyoutu.be/68ycukWyBoI09:26
ducasse!spam | independent09:26
ubottuindependent: Please don't spam09:26
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wrz3625Hao_: well this is ubuntu support09:28
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Hao_ducasse : nothing ... just insmod wifi driver module and then ping to my router....09:29
ducasseHao_: on what os? it needs to run something to run insmod.09:30
cfhowlettHao_, what OS are you running?09:32
Hao_ducasse : just kernel + fs + busybox tool......09:33
ikonia??09:33
wrz3625Hao_: then you should ask elsewhere... this is ubuntu support09:33
ducasseHao_: we support ubuntu, so why ask us? try ##linux.09:34
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Hao_ducasse : ok ....09:35
craptalki connected to the public wifi which required to log in, and i did, other types of browsing i could do it, but when i run apt-get update, it told me that require auth. but i can run apt-get upgrade. how does it possible?09:38
craptalkisnt it weird?09:39
ikonianot really09:39
ikoniadepends how the wifi works,09:39
ikoniaif it works from a cookie in the browser authing that browser to work, then apt won't work09:39
cfhowlettcraptalk authorization to connect to wifi and to update the OS are 2 different things.09:39
ikoniaif it auths your machine - then apt will work09:39
ikoniareally depends on how the wifi/network is setup09:39
ikoniaeg: it may only allow browsing, maybe even a transparent proxy09:40
roottest09:40
craptalkwell, since when i tried to upgrade the system also connected to internet, why then i could not update?09:40
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craptalkshould be both failed?09:40
ikoniacraptalk: I've just explained the possible reasons09:40
ikonianot really,09:40
craptalkikonia: ah cookie. how can i solve it?09:41
craptalkrelogin?09:41
ikoniano09:41
ikoniathats not what I said09:41
ikoniare-read, I gave you a possible example case that used a cookie,09:41
craptalki get your point09:41
craptalkapt update is reading sources.list data, right?09:42
ikoniait does09:42
craptalkwell, maybe why upgrade is working, because upgrade is only reading installed packages? but doesnt it also getting latest info from internet?09:44
ikoniano it's not09:44
ikoniait tries to pull the lastest package metadata down09:44
ikoniato understand how in sync/out of sync it is09:44
ikonia"upgrade" is the key - where do you think it gets the upgrade data from09:44
craptalkyes, pulling latest metadata down, and where does it look for the latest one?09:45
ikoniathe internet09:46
craptalkthat is right09:46
ikoniaI know09:46
ikoniathats why I'm telling you and you are asking09:46
craptalkupdate is also pulling info from the listed sources, right?09:47
ikonialisted sources ?09:47
ikoniacraptalk: lets maybe take a step back09:47
ikoniawhy are you running apt-get update09:47
ikoniawhat are you trying to do09:47
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craptalkthe message told me to either --fix-missing or update, after i install youtube-dl pkg09:48
craptalkthe process was interupted after the inet down in the middle of process09:48
ikoniaright - so if you can't connect directly to the internet / don't have a valid proxy - apt-get update is pointless, and trying to fix that is pointless09:49
ikoniaas the fix would require downloading package dependencies09:49
ikoniayou won't be able to do that09:49
ikoniajust wait until you have a working connection09:49
craptalkikonia: i agree, i think your point about valid proxy is my problem, since other types of browsing and downloading is doing just fine(i even torrenting now)09:50
ikoniathats interesting, so torrenting is working09:50
craptalkikonia: i would not be talking much if it aint weird09:51
craptalkthe download almost finished by the way ahahha09:51
craptalkfor the love of linux oS, why the heck is this. hm....09:52
ikoniacraptalk: lets try a basic test09:52
ikoniacan you ping 8.8.8.809:52
craptalklol, perfectly09:53
ikoniaok - great09:53
craptalki could termbin you for the proof, and you dont want it ahahah09:53
ikoniaso pastebin the error you get when you do apt-get update09:53
craptalkikonia:  i will sir09:53
craptalkwait09:53
k1lapt is known to have issues with proxies. even with transparent proxies.09:54
ppfhow do i enable audible bell in gnome-terminal (and possibly screen)?09:55
ppfi've enabled it in the terminal profile, gconf-editor, dconf-editor, and .screenrc09:55
Tomas_Hello09:55
ppfstill no ping09:55
blackflowppf: iirc, audible ping requires pcspkr and its module loaded09:56
Tomas_Can someone give me advice how disable TLSv1.1 and TLS 1v2 in Ubuntu 16.04? I need this but not able to find how to do it09:56
proxx_Thomas_ applications decide, not the OS09:56
Tomas_Can someone give me advice how disable TLSv1.1 and TLS 1v2 in Ubuntu 16.04? I need this but not able to find how to do it09:56
ppfblackflow: hm. i uninstalled pcspkr. can't i use regular sound output?09:56
proxx_^ once is more than enough09:56
ikevin!patient | Tomas_09:57
blackflowppf: I don't know, sorry09:57
ppfTomas_: that's a client setting. disable it in whatever client you're using09:57
blackflowTomas_: what for though? Doesn't make much sense with the whole world abandoning SSLv3 and prior, allowing only TLS09:58
ppfblackflow: to force tls 1.3 i presume?09:58
Tomas_I need this to ensure and testing cases. It is about stripe just to take it off and then on again09:59
craptalkikonia: this sir https://pastebin.com/f8pFhK8G09:59
Tomas_please provide me usefull resource about removing tls v1.1 and v1.209:59
blackflowah. well, individual server applications probably have a config option for that. client apps might to, but it's not a global setting09:59
ppfTomas_: it's a client setting ...09:59
ppf(or server, obviously)09:59
ppfspill some details and maybe we can tell you more?10:00
blackflows/probably/usually10:00
craptalkikonia: you could see, cannot resolve bla bla, it was login prompt10:00
craptalkikonia: you know how it works for public wifi10:00
JuPanamehello no ubuntu for 32bits UEFI ?10:00
k1lJuPaname: do you have a windows tablet?10:01
Tomas_I have ubuntu 16.04 like development environment, but TLS v1.1 and TLS 1.2 needs to be off for some test cases? what do you mean client setting ?10:01
cfhowlettJuPaname, 32 bit is a dying platform.  plan ahead.10:01
craptalkikonia: what disgusts me more, it forced me to login my account to surf otherwise it will be only 10 min then i gotta relogin10:01
JuPanameno wintel cx w810:01
craptalkspy-fi10:01
ikevinTomas_, client setting mean on your browser, chat app, ...10:02
JuPanamehttp://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_324845.html10:02
blackflowTomas_: there's no global TLS config. Each application uses the SSL/TLS libraries in their own way and usually have a config option to manage protocols, levels and ciphers10:02
ikoniacraptalk: thats nothing to do with ubuntu10:02
proxx_So clueless, he is probably talking about nginx/apache10:02
ikoniaand it's nothing to do with spying10:02
craptalkikonia: lol yeah10:02
k1lJuPaname: you need to load the 32bit uefi manually on the ubuntu usb as told here_ http://askubuntu.com/a/775507/3126010:02
Tomas_yes about apache configuration10:02
ikevinTomas_, disable them in apache10:03
JuPanamek1l,  thanks10:03
Tomas_ok but where that config file located?10:03
ikevinTomas_, /etc/apache2/mod-availlable/ssl.conf10:03
ikoniacraptalk: your problem is a dns problem10:03
blackflowTomas_: SSLProtocol config option of Apache, see the documentation for more info10:03
JuPanamek1l, use amd64 iso or no?10:04
blackflowand btw, afaik tlsv1.3 is still experimental? does apache even support it?10:04
k1lJuPaname: if the cpu is 64bit, then yes, use the 64bit iso and add the 32bit uefi10:05
ikevinblackflow, not sure10:05
JuPanameif bios CPU 32bit windows ok10:05
JuPanameubuntu no work10:05
JuPanameif bios cpu is in 64bit ubuntu amd64 work10:06
ikevinblackflow, so it ask to disable v 1.1 and 1.2, not enabling 1.3 :)10:06
JuPanamewindows x64 no work10:06
blackflowTomas_: yeah I think TLSv1.3 is not supported, as it requires OpenSSL support for modssl and afaik there's no 1.3 in OpenSSL yet, at least not in versions distributed with Ubuntu LTS10:06
k1lJuPaname: look at the cpu you got there. then look on intel website if its a 64bit cpu. if so, run 64bit ubuntu10:06
blackflowikevin: heh, yeah... I was going off on this wrong premise that 1.3 is the reason to disable 1.1 and 1.2  ......10:07
Tomas_SSLProtocol all -SSLv3 -TLSv1 -TLSv1.1 -TLSv1.2 is this correct approch ?10:10
ikevinTomas_, yes10:10
Tomas_ok and which section i should look up in phpinfo() ?10:11
Tomas_if it is trully correct?10:11
ikevinTomas_, what do you wan't to see in phpinfo?10:11
Tomas_that tls and ssl is disabled10:11
ikevinTomas_, php don't know that10:12
proxx_go to #apache or nginx10:12
Tomas_ok it is clear10:12
proxx_not ubuntu10:12
ikevinTomas_, check at https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/10:12
Tomas_it is local host10:13
Tomas_check at https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ it is localhost i cant test here10:13
ikevinTomas_, try things like: openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -starttls http -tlsv110:15
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blackflowTomas_: that only disables specific protocols. You can also do -all. But what you're doing doesn't make sense. If you want to disable SSL/TLS in Apache, just don't enable it at all, SSLEngine off10:18
proxx_Please let the kid do his homework first10:19
wook_hey a good question: what browsers do u guys use? i've been using firefox as my native browser for a long time but lately it's been becoming unusable because of constant javascript errors. updating and upgrading has been working but now i'm having to upgrade more and more often (every few weeks) because javascript errors are constant and make my whole computer crawl to a stop, like every 10-20 mins there's something. it interferes with skype, it interferes10:19
wook_with work, what do u guys do?10:19
proxx_this is pathetic10:19
cfhowlettwook_, no polls in this channel, please.10:20
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cfhowlett!browser | wook_ choose one or install several and test for yourself10:20
ubottuwook_ choose one or install several and test for yourself: Some of the Web Browsers in Ubuntu's repositories include: Firefox (XUL, Gecko), Rekonq (KDE, WebKit), Konqueror (KDE, KHTML/WebKit), Chromium (GTK+, WebKit), Epiphany(GTK+, WebKit), Arora (Qt/KDE, WebKit), Midori (GTK+, WebKit), w3m (terminal-based), links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !manpage), edbrowse (terminal-based). Along with many others.10:20
Guest85730hi...where's the place to ask about automated gui testing tools?10:20
wook_i also have chromium and opera, but neither of which work as well as firefox, and so i wonder which one is preferred for other users with the same problems10:21
wook_i get js errors even when it's on the about:sessionrestore screen10:22
ikevinwook_, what version of ff?10:23
wook_currently i'm on the most current version, 52.0.1 i think10:23
ikevinwook_, try to disable your plugins10:24
wook_like all of them?10:25
ikevinwook_, yep, and see if it work fine10:26
blackflowextensions are usually the reason something's not working okay with FF10:27
user__hehe10:33
user__xiaren110:33
wook_still waiting for firefox to open again so i can try to disable the plugins...i've had to "sudo killall firefox" soooooo many times lately it's crazy10:33
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fukwadhashtag 99percent support @ Ubuntu Servers  lol10:40
hateballwook_: firefox (52 at least) has a "start without addons option" under the help menu10:42
ikonia/win 710:42
ikoniaoops10:42
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wook_so i see that there's 2 typs of plugins it lists, plugins and extensions. would u suggest disabling both types?10:45
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wook_(finally 20 mins later (literally 20 fucking frustrating minutes later) i'm able to check what u'r talking about :D10:46
ikoniawook_: please don't swear10:46
ikoniathere is no need for it10:47
wook_i wish firefox had a face so i could smash it10:47
wook_:D10:47
ikoniacalm down please10:47
ikoniajust work through the problems10:47
Shanehey room10:47
Shaneafter some help if anyone is avaliable10:48
wook_so, still same question, i see some plugins listed but also under extensions i see ubuntu modifications, would u suggest disabling plugins and extensions both? or just plugins?10:49
hateballwook_: try booting in safe mode like I suggested, to see if plugins/addons are at all the issue10:50
hateballif the performance/behavior is the same, then start normally and disable one by one I guess10:50
hateball!help | Shane10:50
ubottuShane: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:50
Shanehehe thanks10:50
Shanesorry Im stressig out big time here10:51
ShaneI will write the q and post in a minute10:51
Shanewordpad10:51
wook_wow, it's running smoothly now10:53
wook_there were only 2 plugins listed, h.264 and flash, and now both are disabled and it's running smoothly10:53
wook_why does that work? :D10:54
wrz3625flash must die10:55
hateballwook_: Chances are you used flash heavy websites, that'll eat your cpu. You can set Flash to always ask before it runs, rather than fully disable it10:56
hateballIf you need flash, that is10:56
ShaneI am currently trying to install a new CentOS (custom build) onto a remote server.  I am on the server, and the tech have told me they have “mounted disk1 on CDRom.  10:58
ShaneI have downloaded the ISO to root, but now I don’t know how to get  it mounted onto “disk1” so I can reboot the server so I can setup the new OS.10:58
proxx_uninstalling is said to fix it10:58
cfhowlettcentos?  this is UBUNTU support, Shane10:59
hidhi10:59
hidIm looking for a file manager that has this feature10:59
hidyou clic on a folder and a panel automatically opens on the right side10:59
hiddo you know one? it is like the macos finder10:59
Shaneoh, sorry10:59
hateballhid: a panel doing what?11:01
hidhateball: like that https://cdn.tutsplus.com/mac/authors/legacy/Josh%20Johnson/2012/07/13/findertips-5.jpg11:01
hidyou clic on a folder and the contents is shown on the right side11:02
hidhere one clics "Desktop Pictures"11:02
hateballhid: yea I understand what you mean, but I dont know of any file manager that does that (at least by default)11:05
hateballI use kde plasma with Dolphin, and that appears to have no option for such browsing11:05
ulkeshAnyone happen to know how to get Ubuntu 16.04.2 to auto-select my USB headphones when I plug them in without me having to go to sound properties to select it? Both Windows and Mac do this pretty flawlessly, so I feel like I'm just missing something here11:05
hateballit allows you to split the view tho, but it doesnt automatically do it if you go down a subfolder11:05
zhongfualright, so i'm trying to get my kernel boot time down and i've noticed that my btrfs root partition takes almost exactly 5 seconds to get ready11:09
zhongfu[    2.355115] BTRFS: device fsid 840d1f7e-adc2-4eae-9ed3-d1c7fec3e6a2 devid 1 transid 43068 /dev/sda111:09
zhongfu[    7.372684] BTRFS info (device sda1): disk space caching is enabled11:09
zhongfuubuntu 16.10 with kernel 4.8.0-44-generic, and my fstab: UUID=840d1f7e-adc2-4eae-9ed3-d1c7fec3e6a2 / btrfs subvol=@,discard,ssd,noatime,space_cache 0 011:09
zhongfuanyone has any idea where i should look at to get that down11:09
ikoniawhy is it taking 5 seconds11:11
ikoniaI'd be happy to sacrifice 5 seconds of boot time to ensure file system stablility11:11
ulkeshNevermind, found my answer here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Automatically_switch_to_Bluetooth_or_USB_headset  (Ubuntu seriously needs to step up their documentation or their SEO for it :) )11:12
zhongfuikonia: well, it'd be nice to know what's causing it to take 5 seconds for it for starters11:12
ikoniawhat makes you think thats just what it needs to build the pool ?11:13
ikoniawhat makes you expect quicker than 5 seconds11:13
zhongfuikonia: it's on an SSD, i've got space_cache enabled, and there's no documentation that i can find that mentions why it takes 5 seconds on boot11:15
zhongfumaybe i'll go digging through the kernel sources to see if i can find anything11:15
ikoniawhy are you expecting it to take less than 511:16
ikoniawhat's giving you the details that makes you think 5 seconds is not the norm/right time11:16
zhongfuikonia: no disk activity or any messages printed to the console log11:17
ikoniaso ?11:17
Haohmaruso it must be doing.. "nothing"11:17
zhongfuat the very least, i'd want to know what's going on during that five seconds because it seems abnormal to me11:17
ikoniaI'm missing something here11:18
zhongfu5 seconds on a 15 second boot is not something small11:18
ikoniayour disk takes 5 seconds to mount, but you've got nothing to suggest that is not what's expected11:18
Haohmaruis that 15 seconds from power-on till desktop?11:19
zhongfuHaohmaru: in kernel + userspace, as measured by systemd11:23
hiyaWhat repo are enabled by default on Ubuntu?11:25
ikonialook in /etc/apt/sources.list11:25
ikoniathats the default and your local mirror11:25
hiyaBut I don't have it installed11:25
hiyaI want to know what all repo are enabled by default?11:25
hiyais Restricted enabled ?11:25
ikoniamain, updats, security,11:25
ikoniano11:25
k1lonly if you check so at install11:26
hiyaUbuntu has 4 repos, Main, Universe, Restricted and Multiverse11:26
ikoniathats useful, there is an install flag for it11:26
ikoniahiya: it has more than that in them, eg security, and updates11:26
hiyaikonia, Is even universe enabled?11:27
k1lofficially that might be distribution (-updates -security) and components (main, restricted, universe,...)11:28
ikoniaI don't think so by default11:28
Spinalhelp!!!11:28
hiyaok11:28
ikevinSpinal, ask your question ...11:28
hiyaikonia, actually I am trying to move from Debian stable to either Fedora or Ubuntu for better and updated Gnome and newer packages11:28
SkyriderEy everyone.11:28
ikoniahiya: as ubuntu is based from snapshots of debian that then never gets updated, you will not find that with ubuntu11:29
SkyriderIm trying to get a remote desktop to work (vnc4server) with a ubuntu desktop. However.. all I see is a gray screen with accept clipboard from viewers, send clipboard to viewers options at the top left.11:29
k1lSpinal: ask a specific question11:29
SkyriderWondering what's up with that11:29
yanghaock11:29
ikevinikonia, ubuntu is more up to date than debian stable11:29
ikoniaikevin: yes, as it's a snapshot as I've just said11:30
ikoniabut it will never get updated beyond that release11:30
k1lhiya: since the gnome release dates are just before the ubuntu release ubuntu cant ship the most recent gnome release in the official repos. but the #ubuntu-gnome team runs a ppa for that11:30
hiyaok11:31
hiyaBut I have tried Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 and it is so awesome. Also the performance is nice. I am used to Debian so a Debian based distribution won't be hard for me11:31
hiyahence I am more inclined to use Ubuntu vs Fedora11:31
ikoniahiya: whats the problem then ?11:31
ikoniayou like ubuntu 16.10, use ubuntu 16.1011:32
hiyaikonia, I am comparing Fedora 25 with 16.10, and then I would install what looks fine11:32
ikevinhiya, debian testing can be a choice to11:33
minimechiya: The Ubuntu 17.10 is the first distribution wich is 'on par' with the latest gnome 3.24 release. Only few application (the file manager for example) are not the 'newest' version.11:33
cfhowletthiya, you have fedora?  install virtualbox + a lite ubuntu, e.g. lubuntu/xubuntu.  then test it for yourself.11:33
minimechiya: First ubuntu distribution for years... ;)11:33
hiyacfhowlett, I am on Debian stable right now11:35
hiyaI am trying to decide whether to move to Fedora or Ubuntu, cfhowlett11:35
hiyaikevin, thanks, yes that is a good option too11:35
hiyaminimec, Alright then11:38
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Braxenhielmtjoho11:53
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MickSHi all. Anyone here that can confirm that installing an lxd container using the ubuntu:16.04 template no longer works? It will not find any image anymore. This used to work until 2.5 hours ago. I did notice an update to the 16.04 releases dir on the cloud-images server which could be related.12:04
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ivandoes anyone know how I can set kbdrate on boot so that it actually affects the text-mode VT? doing it in a systemd unit (or over ssh) seems to have no effect12:21
tufo1hi12:21
EriC^^hello12:21
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Cardamon_sorry drone ;_;12:22
Cardamon_T_T12:23
tufo1I want use of a firewall that  is not complet cammandline and no graficall complet .12:23
proxx_graficall what ?12:24
Cardamon_??12:24
proxx_wut12:24
cfhowletttufo1, done.  ufw12:24
cfhowlettgufw12:24
tufo1yes i yse of ufw12:24
cfhowlett!gufw12:25
proxx_try english , damn12:25
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:25
tufo1i want by nano config that firewall12:26
proxx_i not know u say what12:26
tufo1examp : arno iptables firewall12:26
proxx_try google translate12:26
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Cardamon_umm...12:27
Spinal Help!!!12:27
Cardamon_wut12:28
Haohmarucall 911!12:28
tufo1easy, i want that is like arno-iptables-firewall12:28
Cardamon_lol12:28
cfhowlett!help | Spinal12:28
ubottuSpinal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:28
Cardamon_wut?¡?¡?12:29
tufo1http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/html/12:30
tufo1i have that firewall12:31
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cfhowletttufo1, not supported here.  ask arno for support12:31
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Cardamon 12:32
Cardamon;_;12:32
tufo1i  tail similar arno .12:32
ioriatufo1, i think it'a already in the repo12:33
ioriaarno-iptables-firewall12:33
ioria!info arno-iptables-firewall12:33
ubottuarno-iptables-firewall (source: arno-iptables-firewall): single- and multi-homed firewall script with DSL/ADSL support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1.f-1 (yakkety), package size 133 kB, installed size 720 kB12:33
tufo1similr arno12:33
tufo1no arno12:33
ioriaivan, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_console12:33
ivanioria: oh wow thanks I missed that [Service]12:34
SpinalSomeone EL ESPAÑOL12:34
ioriaivan,  good luck12:34
cfhowlett!es | Spinal12:34
ubottuSpinal: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:34
ioriaivan,  don't forget to  start/enable the kbdrate.service systemd service.12:35
ivanindeed12:36
SpinalI'm new to this distro12:36
Cardamon...12:38
CardamonDrone`12:39
ivanioria: it works :-)12:40
ioriaivan,  good12:40
Spinal /join #ubuntu-br12:41
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tufo1i want alike arno-iptables-firewall no  oneself arno .i have a version of arno but i  want  to exchange  to other firewall .I want config that firewall by nono editor or pico12:46
tufo11=0 or 0=1 diable or 1= is enable12:47
tufo1i can in arno 0 exchange to 1 and enable and 1 to 0 and disable12:48
tufo1# Enable if THIS machines (dynamically) obtains its IP through (IPv4) DHCP12:49
tufo1# and/or (IPv6) DHCPv6 (from your ISP)12:49
tufo1# -----------------------------------------------------------------------------12:49
tufo1EXT_IF_DHCP_IP=012:49
ioriatufo1, if you don't want to use the ubuntu package, i can only link you here: https://github.com/arno-iptables-firewall/aif/ and here http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/arno_iptables_firewall.html12:51
tufo1now , =0 if  ext_if_dhcp_ip =1 yhis is enable and now is 0 and is disable.i want alike this setting12:52
dckxhi guys, my trackpad multitouch features are disabled in ubuntu 16.04... I have found different, conflicting solutions online, and I don't wanna mess up anything... Any suggestions? I have an elantech trackpad12:52
dckxthe features got disabled after I "repaired" the trackpad, which stopped working after multiple issues due to an Nvidia driver issue... when I finally fix that, trackpad wasn't working. Now, it works, but with no multitouch12:53
OerHeksdckx,  lots of posts online indeed, check if your elantouchpad is recognised with xinput --list, or that is is recognised as generic mouse? then the pmouse driver is your answer http://askubuntu.com/a/33146112:55
dckxOerHeks: it is recognized as elantech. Should I go with pmouse then?12:57
OerHeksdckx, no. then i think this post might have the fix, i8042.reset >>> http://askubuntu.com/a/76488512:58
OerHekseasy to check, and undo if it is not working12:58
OerHeksbut read the whole page first!12:58
dckxOerHeks: great, thank you, will let you know how it goes12:58
OerHeksdckx, yes please, then we can confirm the fix and help others too.12:59
j_ellyis there anyone with experience in operationg a kinect or xtion motion sensor with ubuntu13:07
j_elly???13:07
j_ellyis it possible to operate a desktop with one of those in general and particulary with no programming skills?13:08
fikryhi13:09
fikryi need help13:09
blackflow!ask | fikry13:10
ubottufikry: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:10
OerHeksj_elly, there is openkinect https://openkinect.org/wiki/Getting_Started , not tried myself but aware of the possibilities13:11
tufo1i read links13:13
tufo1but i want  a software  alike arno ?13:14
realieshow can I switch from the nvidia gpu to the invidia iris igpu?13:14
j_ellyOerHeks; thanks! but what is openkinect capable - controlling the mouse via gestures? can you run a desktop with motion device replacing the mouse for example?13:14
realiesI've managed to get them visible by the system13:15
realiesrunning ubuntu 16.04 kernel 4.8.0-4513:15
JuPanamehello error13:16
OerHeksj_elly, i suppose so, they have a small channel here on #freenode too >> #openkinect13:16
JuPanamelocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory13:16
JuPanamelocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory13:16
JuPanamelocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory13:16
dckx_OerHeks: so the link you sent, the I tried some of the answers few weeks back when I was trying to fix the touchpad, and one worked.... but now, I tried the last solution to fix multitouch, and it didn't work13:16
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OerHeksdckx, the i8042.reset ??13:17
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tufo1i study links but not useful , because i want a software  alike arno-iptables-firewall .13:18
scatterpfrom windows 10 bash is there a way to make windows go away and just launch in to a real ubuntu x session etc like shutdown windows but not ubuntu ?13:18
dckxOerHeks: I tried that one to fix the touchpad, but didn't work. I used i8042.kbdreset=113:18
ikoniascatterp: no as windows is the OS it's running in13:19
OerHekstufo1, then use it? the latest 2015 version is in our repos13:19
scatterpikonia what about chroot ?13:19
dckxOerHeks: and now, to fix multitouch, I tried: MatchIsTouchpad "on"13:19
dckxOption "TapButton1" "1"13:19
tufo1yes is 201513:19
ikoniawhat about it13:19
j_ellyOerHeks; thanks!13:19
tufo1but i want alike arno13:20
scatterpikonia for example if i have a live cd in the drive and i chroot to it every part of the os is available on that cd ... can i change the host os live ?13:20
tufo1iptables is cammand line complet  and that is  hard for config13:21
ikoniascatterp: your running bash - not ubuntu13:21
ikoniabash is an application13:21
ikoniayou can't chroot to something that's not there13:21
ikoniayou will never "not" be running bash from windows, so you will never be able to "turn windows off"13:21
ikoniaif you want to use ubuntu - just boot ubuntu13:21
scatterpikonia ok another question then if i install ubuntu and enable drive encryption and set a root password reboot forget the password is there anyway to mount the drive and get access to the system ?13:22
proxx_Yes13:23
OerHekstufo1, there is an other option, UFW, and the gui GUFW, easy to control13:23
proxx_just make sure you keep the secret somewhere safe13:23
tufo1ufw is few good but i want better of these13:23
ikoniascatterp: that would defeat the purpose of the encyption13:23
ikoniascatterp: if you don't have the key - you're locked out13:23
scatterpikonia ok13:24
OerHekstufo1, 'better' ... hard coding iptables or soft use of UFW, there is no better i guess.13:24
scatterpso with out the key physical local access to the server does not give you root ?13:24
scatterpikonia its just i always read physical access = root access13:24
ikoniascatterp: the key is nothing to do with root13:24
ikoniascatterp: the key is to unencypt the disk13:25
tufo1namely on the world are arno and ufw only?13:25
proxx_encryption defeats coldboot attacks13:25
scatterpikonia ok so the local physical access user could be root but not chroot to the encrypted disk because he can not mount it correct ?13:25
OerHekstufo1, tons of them, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/search/?q=firewall&op=13:25
gardonHi guys13:26
gardonJust wanna ask if it's normal to feel like Ubuntu is quite laggy?13:26
proxx_no its not13:26
gardonWhat should I do13:26
gardonbtw, is there a huge file that you have to download after installing ubuntu13:26
proxx_video or DNS are suspects13:26
ikoniascatterp: what are you talking about13:28
ikoniathe root user is NOTHING to do with encyption13:28
gardon@proxx_ I shoot you a pm13:28
Haohmarudoes it make the system run slower?13:31
Haohmaruouch, i was scrolled up13:31
Haohmarui meant the encryption13:31
Zorro___hello13:33
proxx_Haohmaru yes in theory, in practise, hardly13:33
Haohmarui mean stuff like normal file read/write13:34
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ducassetufo1: you can use something like ferm, it is easier than plain iptables but you still need to write your own rules13:36
tufo1بثقپ ؟13:37
tufo1ferm?13:37
tufo1is this a firewall?13:37
ducassetufo1: yes, ferm stands for "For Easy Rule Making"13:37
tufo1that config file by nano editor or pico?13:37
ducassetufo1: type 'apt show ferm' and you can see the description13:38
tufo1ok13:38
tufo1tanks13:38
user__cool13:39
user__irc like the 90"s13:39
user__:)13:39
Zorro___I just want to know what is a best and cheap desktop for Ubuntu on intel ? I can build it myself... i want compatible parts (intel 4sure, intel LAN, intel graphics....6 or 7th gen i5/i7)...just want to know if system76 or even dell are good options ....where can i find information about best mobos for an ubuntu build...? phronix.com seems not very good after all13:39
Zorro___i'm in north america BTW. Canada..13:39
EriC^^Haohmaru: not much as the cpu is way faster than the hdd, takes way less time to encrypt/decrypt than write/read13:40
EriC^^Haohmaru: on any modern cpu you shouldn't feel much of a difference13:40
HaohmaruEriC^^ is it some brutal encryption or just a cipher13:41
Haohmaruuser__ irc is da future13:42
tufo1is ferm a firewall russian?13:42
Zorro___i remember when I was 16 years old in the early-mid 90s I would go on IRC and download FTP server lists for warez....I had a 14 400 US Robotics modem wow13:43
ducassetufo1: russian? it is an open source project, contributors are probably from all over.13:44
tufo1ok-ok13:45
tufo1very well13:45
Zorro___I remember my fist Linux distro was slackware with kernel 1.2.13.. I had bought some Linux CDs in a computer book store13:45
user__I was using stuff like asl pls, give ur mail and i will send a pic, stuff like that to a total strangers13:45
Haohmarui still have my 56k modem13:46
user__but today... i don't think so... :)13:46
w9qbjThe first linux I downloaded was 0.92 - took many 360k flopies13:47
Haohmarutoday irc is for the serious people13:47
user__my first pc was pentium I 400Mhz with win9813:47
sspencerMy first PC was a Tandy.13:48
user__were so expensive13:48
w9qbjeverytime I do a cleanout of the computer room I find more of them 5-1/4s13:48
ducasse!chat13:48
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:48
Zorro___wow 360k floppies... my first PC was a 386sx 16mhz with 1024K RAM (then upgraded to 2048)...Before that I had TI-99A (Texas Instruments) : those were cool! Commodore Vic-20...C64.... My first <real> comp was this 38613:48
user__Zorro___, looks like calculator to me... :b13:50
w9qbjfirst - Apple-][, then added CP/m card13:50
user__16mhz... what da...!?13:50
Zorro___LOL :) Texas Instruments computer was actually ahead of its time...with some speech features...modem..was 300baud probably...13:51
Zorro___16mhz was a lot man....you were so proud to hit that <TURBO> button back in the days13:51
w9qbjNovation j-cat - 110b13:51
ablesthi13:51
ablesthow do install icq for linux on ubuntu 14.04?13:52
Zorro___I've been really jalous when I visited a studio in the early 90s and they had Amigas with Video toaster....I always wanted an amiga with video toaster cause we had a VHS cam in the house a few VCR....never had an amiga though...13:53
w9qbjhow do I kill bg'd jobs - have no terminal running it now13:53
user__ablest, I guess you should try Pidgin from the Ubuntu Software place13:54
ablesthttps://icq.com/linux/en13:54
aotaointbinwow. icq is still a thing.13:54
aotaointbini'm amazed.13:54
aotaointbini haven't used icq in like 20 years.13:55
ablesti have icq.tar.xz dont know what to do13:55
ablestlol13:55
ducassew9qbj: 'kill %1' for bg job nr 113:55
Zorro___Video toaster effects are still cool..... iMovie / Final Cut / Premiere might do editing of 4K videos...but video toaster was realtime !!! not editing13:55
aotaointbintar -xzvf icq.tar.xz13:55
ablesthow13:56
MustaKrakishablest, tar xf icq.tar.xz; tar xf icq.tar.gz; tar xf icq.tar13:56
ablestin terminal?13:56
MustaKrakishablest, yes13:56
ablestk13:56
Zorro___Last time I've installed ICQ, must be somewhere in the early 2000s....thought it had became somekind of virus / malware13:56
w9qbjducasse: thanks13:56
user__never heard for this gadgets and softwares13:57
MustaKrakishablest, you'll need xz-utils13:57
MustaKrakishablest, or tar -xJf icq.tar.xz13:57
MustaKrakish-J flag deals with xz archives13:57
Zorro___ok so i need a new ubuntu computer...i want to build or buy a nice prebuilt model13:57
ablestsay error13:58
Zorro___what is a cheap intel option for 6th gen / 7th gen i5/i7.... i just want a goood supported mobo13:58
Zorro___erreur13:58
gulshanHey.. guys plz helpme out.. i want to make local apt repository in ubuntu 14.04?13:58
Zorro___in frog language13:58
ablestablest@linux:~$ tar -xJf icq.tar.xz13:58
aotaointbinisn't "cheap intel" a contradiction?13:58
aotaointbini hear amd's ryzen is nice.13:58
MustaKrakishZorro___, go Ryzen13:58
Zorro___i guess yes !13:58
aotaointbinif i hadn't bought an intel 6700k a while back i'd be looking into ryzen.13:59
MustaKrakishmore bang for buck13:59
user__Zorro___, i have a 1156 mobo with i-5 65013:59
Zorro___is Ryzen GPU supported ?13:59
Zorro___I mean APU13:59
gulshanHey.. guys plz help me out.. i want to make local apt repository in ubuntu 14.04?13:59
user__and it's killing it13:59
Zorro___I would like to use my nvidia i guess13:59
MustaKrakishablest, whats the error?13:59
Zorro___Ryzen APU are not out yet i believe13:59
Zorro___only CPU...13:59
gulshanHow to make local apt repository in ubuntu 14.04?13:59
ablesti got it ty14:00
ablesti had to do cd /home/ablest/Downloads14:00
Zorro___I got this old Kabini AMD from several years back...low power 4 core..with Radeon...14:00
Zorro___I didnt like the Radeon support really14:00
MustaKrakishablest, you'll obviously need to be in the directory where the file is located14:00
Elzingtongulshan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-create-a-local-apt-repository14:00
Zorro___so I bought an nvidia gt71014:00
ablestthen tar -xJf icq.tar.xz14:01
MustaKrakishor provide the full path to the file in the command14:01
Zorro___would prefer to use intel open source graphic drivers14:01
ablestits oks14:01
ablestwork8s14:01
Zorro___whats cool with intel is that they actually contribute to open source........i mean for their graphical chipsets14:01
Zorro___i dont think AMD really cares about giving good support for X/Wayland/Mir14:02
Zorro___nvidia cares more14:02
Zorro___intel really cares14:02
ablesti need cell phone !!14:02
MustaKrakishLG G614:02
Zorro___I got LG G4...the camera is #1...yeah go for the G6 if you can14:02
ablestk14:03
Zorro___LG phones are a much better deal than Samsung14:03
Zorro___dont believe the hype14:03
ablestsamsung galaxy 8 it out i think14:03
* MustaKrakish rocks the G514:03
MustaKrakishsamsung has bloatware14:03
Zorro___I only wish I could install an alternative to Android on LG G4...14:03
gardon@proxx_14:03
MustaKrakishunless you're going to root it and flash to CM14:04
Zorro___well unless you install a custom rom they all have crapwares14:04
ducasseseriously guys, this is ubuntu support, try to stay on topic please14:04
Zorro___ok sorry14:04
ablesti can put ubuntu on lg g6?14:04
MustaKrakishablest, maybe14:04
ablestcool14:04
MustaKrakishablest, it'll be powerful enough, just don't know about h/w support14:04
MustaKrakishablest, https://www.ubuntu.com/mobile14:05
ablestpreoorder like samsung s814:05
ablestlg has big screen14:05
ablest5.714:05
gardonhelp14:05
Zorro___stay on topic...true it can become boring and anoying for other people who wants to chat about ubuntu / linux14:06
ablestk sorry14:06
Zorro___especially when google uses linux but dont really care about building an open linux solution14:06
Zorro___and android has that java layer.....yuk.14:07
JuPanameplease link for install ubuntu UEFI 32bits14:09
gardonHey @proxx_ Thanks if you're here14:10
gardonI think it worked14:10
gardonI can't send query to him anymore14:10
gardonAny one knows why?14:10
MustaKrakishgardon, cos he's not in the channel?14:11
gardonI mean via query14:12
gardonvia pm14:12
gardonhis name  was proxx_14:12
ducassegardon: he quit14:12
gardonIf so, that's too bad for me coz I didn't get the chance to thank him\14:13
KiickiWhat is the difference between installing Ubuntu 14.04 and updating everything and installing 14.04.5 and updating everything? Or actually any 14.04.x version and updating everything?14:15
ducasseKiicki: installing 14.04 and updating will give you the original 3.13 kernel + x stack, .5 will give you the kernel and x stack from 16.04 (or 16.10)14:17
coffeeguyhi is there any reason i can't select "Canonical Partners" in Software & Updates?14:18
coffeeguyi just updated the system, so dpkg is not locked14:19
Kiickiaah, that's what I thought as applying "fglrx" driver on 14.04.5 doesn't seem to work unless you downgrade the kernel or x stack which seems like a big hassle and can fuck up things. I had no problem applying the driver in 14.04.1 so I assume it's the kernel or x stack ducasse14:20
KiickiIt's just easier I guess to install one of the lower version and upgrade from there14:20
KiickiTo make the driver work at least14:20
flash_problemI have installed flash plugin following instructions from this page >>>http://askubuntu.com/questions/748629/how-to-install-pepper-flash...........But Chromium wont detect it14:20
hateballflash_problem: that's.. old info14:21
hateballsome random PPA involved as well14:22
ducasseKiicki: install plain 14.04 with the 3.13 kernel and do _not_ upgrade to a later hwe stack14:22
hateballflash_problem: use !ppapurge to undo what you've done, then depending on if you run 16.04 or 16.10 there are different packages you want to install14:22
flash_problemhateball, I didnt add anty PPAs ..Just enabled the "Canonicle partner" in "software & updates"14:23
hateballflash_problem: oh14:23
flash_problemany*14:23
Kiickiducasse tbh, I don't even know how to upgrade the hwe stack so we are good14:23
Kiickithanks for your time14:23
hateballflash_problem: yea, if you enable partners, do an apt update, then install the package adobe-flashplugin14:23
hateballflash_problem: and restart any browsers you have14:24
flash_problemhateball, But isnt browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash more recent than adobe-flashplugin ?14:25
Kiickiducasse but since hwe stack doesn't seem to appear as "upgrade" when you update everything, it doesn't even pop up on your screen, how do people actually update that? Is it fair to assume that many people use old ones?14:25
ducassehateball: isn't it pepperflash he wants?14:25
ducasse!hwe | Kiicki14:25
ubottuKiicki: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack14:25
KiickiThanks, I was actually looking for something like that14:26
hateballducasse: that package pulls in both npapi flash and ppapi flash, and updates properly on new versions14:26
naccKiicki: have you read these wiki pages? i feel like you've been asking the same questions a couple of days in a row14:27
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naccKiicki: and have definitely beenpointed at them a few times14:27
hateballducasse: where if you grab pepperflashplugin-nonfree, you need to run a manual check for new versions14:27
hateballflash_problem: ^14:27
ducassehateball: good to know, thanks.14:27
paraboolhello, I use discord and i have a USB headset + microphone, which isn't working out of the box. What should I check for to .. make it work?14:27
paraboolit's logitech, nothing obscure14:28
flash_problemhateball, How do I run a manual check ?14:28
Kiickinacc I have done plenty of reading and I start to get why it hasn't been working14:28
hateballflash_problem: if you have pepperflashplugin-nonfree installed, it's "sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install"14:28
hateballwhich then grabs the latest chrome and extracts ppapi flash etc. I much prefer the adobe package.14:29
Kiickinacc actually this was a good thing. A question about something I was curious and not about a problem14:29
KiickiSo I understand now what you were trying to help me with14:30
paraboolWhen I go to Sound applications, the only headphones listed are actually my speakers14:30
flash_problemhateball, Installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree14:30
KiickiWould honestly be easier to just clean install 14.4.0 or something and take it from there naac14:30
naccKiicki: i thought that's what you did?14:31
naccKiicki: i think you are confusing 14.04.x releases and 14.04.x kernel/x14:31
KiickiI have now but you were helping me downgrade the Kernel or something else when I had 14.04.514:31
fiht_why not ask askubuntu first...14:31
Kiickinah, I I'm not caught up on the Kernel thing actually, which is what caused the problem14:32
KiickiI get that tbh14:32
AbbasiSex14:32
Abbasisorry six14:32
fiht_seems there is a lot of post in askubuntu.com14:32
Abbasiits 6pm14:32
Abbasiany girl there?14:33
fihtno girl, thanks14:33
AbbasiI am pakistani14:33
naccKiicki: right14:33
nacc!ot | Abbasi14:33
ubottuAbbasi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
flash_problemhateball, Installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree then did sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install ...restarted Chromium but it still doesnt detect flash14:34
Kiickinacc but thanks for helping me non the less. Downgrading the Kernel or the other part you tried to help me with was probably a screw up on my half.14:34
AbbasiOk sorry14:34
Kiickibut at least I don't need to do all that if I clean install 14.0414:34
Abbasibut i need girl.14:34
naccAbbasi: stop, you have been warned.14:35
naccPici: thanks :)14:35
naccKiicki: it worked for me in my testing, fwiw14:35
Kiickiyeah, probably my fault14:36
fihtr#flash_problem can you repeat you question? maybe i can give you a help online.14:36
KiickiAt that point I think I hadn't slept for 36h14:36
flash_problemfiht,  Installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree then did sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install ...restarted Chromium but it still doesnt detect flash14:36
hateballflash_problem: have you tried to do any manual stuff to get flash working before this? or have you *only* enabled partner repo and nothing else?14:37
flash_problemhateball, Only enabled partner repos .. Nothing else14:37
hateballflash_problem: right, I suggest you try the adobe package then.14:38
howarthAny one know what happened to the software-center package in Zesty?14:38
hateballflash_problem: so close your browsers then run this: sudo apt purge pepperflashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin14:38
nacchowarth: it's been deprecated for a while, use gnome-software14:38
nacchowarth: also 17.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 pleaase14:38
howarthhow do I get the dead entry for Software and Updates out of the Settings panels/14:39
fihtr#flash_problem what browser are you useing. ubuntu or chrome or chromium/14:39
flash_problemfiht, Chromium14:39
howarthSystem Settings has a dead icon now14:39
fiht_it it so easy14:39
fiht_wait me for a second14:39
flash_problemfiht_, Okay14:40
fiht_sorry, I'm using two account...14:40
nacchowarth: i don't know -- i dont' have one14:40
poco_So I believe my system is confusing my mounted SMB network shares as storage on my / disk and it's constantly reporting as full (100GB) even though Baobab says there's only 9.3GB on my / disk.14:41
fiht_maybe I should install a chromium first...14:41
ziedleave14:42
ziedhello all !14:42
naccpoco_: pastebin `df -h` -- what is reporting that the disk is full?14:42
flash_problemBrb14:43
ziedis there any Quantum project with Canonical ?14:43
nacczied: this is not a canonical channel14:43
poco_nacc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24281641/14:43
ziedalright14:44
naccpoco_: it's quite clear that /dev/sda5 is moutned on / and is full14:44
ziedthanks !14:44
poco_so yeah df says my / disk is full but, trust me.. it's not. This happened last night and I removed my network shares and it was no longer full14:44
nacczied: and i'm not sure what you're asking14:44
poco_nacc, Baobab reports correctly that there's only 9.3GB on it14:44
howarthDon't we lose some useful feature with software-center being removed? Like being able to add the repo locations from a gui?14:45
tgm4883poco_: what's the output of 'df -h'14:45
nacctgm4883: it's int he pastebin above14:45
tgm4883ah missed that, thanks14:45
naccpoco_: odd -- can you unmount the smb shares and rerun that command?14:45
poco_tgm4883, hey again! thanks for helping me last time! still having the same issue you helped me with a few days ago14:46
OerHekshowarth, untill release, support for zesty in #ubuntu+1 .. i think you can install gnome-software14:46
OerHekshowarth, else the excellent detailed softwarecenter synaptic14:46
tgm4883poco_: same thing. Unmount your network storage and run it again14:46
fihtdoes flash_problem still online?14:46
OerHekshowarth, i think it is about the transition to snap packages14:46
fihtyou can open this link in chromium chrome://plugins/14:47
OerHeksfiht, flash is dead, yay.14:47
fihtCould you find flash in it?14:47
fihtI do not use flash...14:47
poco_tgm4883, nacc https://paste.ubuntu.com/24281660/14:47
OerHeksfiht, no sucht page anymore > chrome://plugins/14:48
nacchowarth: at least on my system the setting is still there from gnome-software itself14:48
fihtsorry. first time here14:48
naccpoco_: still says 101G14:48
OerHekschrome://chrome-urls/ is a nice one14:48
tgm4883poco_: run baobab again14:48
tgm4883ignore your home directory14:48
poco_tgm4883, nacc I would post you a screen of my Baobab but I can't save anything. Baobab changes everytime I tun it14:49
tgm4883poco_: well, you need to run it without your mounted storage attached14:49
poco_it now says it's 100GB with /mnt/ taking up 100GB14:49
fihtDo not understant why chrome//plugins/ is disabled.... (sorry for that14:49
poco_but I unmounted everything in /mnt/14:49
tgm4883poco_: then you did what  you did last time14:49
KiickiThey removed chrome//plugins14:49
tgm4883poco_: you've got stuff in there, which is taking up space14:49
Kiickinot a thing anymore anywhere14:49
poco_I deleted the 98GB file but.... it doesn't exist14:49
poco_trust me here14:50
naccpoco_: pastebin `ls -ahl /mnt`14:50
OerHeksfiht, google surely have an explanaition, go find it.14:50
poco_tgm4883, nacc https://paste.ubuntu.com/24281680/14:50
OerHeksit has been gone for some versions now14:51
naccpoco_: and what's in tere? (or `du -sh /mnt` ?)14:52
nacc*there14:52
tgm4883poco_: either there's still files in this directory structure, or the file that you deleted is being held open by some other program14:52
poco_tgm4883, it says there's a 92GB file... but I don't understand how. I have checked the file paths. Everything in /mnt/ leads to a SMB share14:53
naccpoco_: check *now* with SMB unmounted14:53
tgm4883poco_: no, right now none of that leads to a SMB share14:53
poco_nacc, yeah when I unmount everything is when Baobab says / is 100GB14:53
sandy_hello14:54
naccpoco_: i'm guessing you put a file on your local disk, then mounted SMB over the path and so can't see it14:54
poco_nacc, so that's what I thought too14:54
sandy_hi14:54
tgm4883poco_: what's the output of 'du -sh /mnt'14:54
poco_nacc, but then last night I sudo rm -rf /mnt/ the 92GB directory and everything again showed that / was 9.3GB... except now it's back as soon as my SMB share is mounted again14:55
tgm4883poco_: what's the name of the 92GB file you deleted?14:55
poco_tgm4883, it's the exact same name as an rsync backup of my home folder of my network share14:56
naccpoco_: please pastebin the `du` output14:56
poco_somehow I think whenever my SMB shares are mounting it's somehow putting it under the / disk14:56
poco_nacc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24281704/14:56
tgm4883poco_: ok, we'll discuss your mounting issues later14:56
naccpoco_: right, so there is 92G of data in /mnt right now14:56
tgm4883let's fix this space issue14:56
poco_haha ok14:57
tgm4883poco_: 'du /mnt | sort -n -r | head'14:57
poco_tgm4883, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24281728/14:58
poco_tgm4883, it's my /home/poco backup14:58
tgm4883poco_: yep, and it shouldn't be there14:59
naccpoco_: i'm guessing you at one point ran your backup *without* smb mounted14:59
naccpoco_: and thus wrote it to your actual disk14:59
tgm4883nacc: +114:59
poco_tgm4883, yup. I'll delete it again14:59
tgm4883that's exactly what happened14:59
wastrelyay15:00
poco_"sudo rm -rf /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase/WOPR-poco-SYNC2" should do the trick right?15:00
tgm4883poco_: yes, which brings us to the next problem15:00
tgm4883poco_: while your mounting convention works, it can lead to problems.... The exact problems that you've experienced twice now15:01
poco_tgm4883, ok I'm following15:01
poco_(just to let you know since I have deleted that file last night I haven't ran another backup)15:02
poco_(btw my / disk is back to 9.8GB :D )15:02
tgm4883poco_: what you should do is, rather than backing up directly to "/mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase" you should create a new folder in that directory "/mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase/Backups"  and then backup to that folder instead15:02
tgm4883poco_: that way, if for some reason your SMB storage isn't mounted, your backup will fail because the "Backups" folder doesn't exist15:03
tgm4883(note that your Backups folder will only be present when your SMB storage is mounted)15:03
poco_ok, so make sure that the folder isn't going to doesn't exist locally is what you're saying?15:03
tgm4883poco_: exactly15:03
poco_tgm4883, can you tell me then what happened last night? I discovered this backup that saved locally, sudo rm'd it. Everything was working great for the rest of the night, never did another rsync, and this morning see that it's again listed locally?15:05
tgm4883poco_: do you have the backups running in a cron job or something?15:05
gulshanUnable to create and initialize directory '/home/userhome/navneesh'.15:05
acheron-ahello HamRadio15:05
gulshanHow to get over “device or resource busy”?15:06
poco_I thought that may be the case because at one point I did create a conrjob but "contab -l" shows no cron jobs15:06
HamRadioacheron-a, Hello! :)15:06
gulshanrm: cannot remove ‘/home/userhome’: Device or resource busy15:06
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naccgulshan: use a pastebin, provide exact commands run15:06
poco_tgm4883, boom. the crontab was hidden becuase it was under sudo, not the user15:07
poco_so I should change "@daily rsync -avP --delete --no-perms --exclude-from=/home/poco/Documents/Scripts/rsync-exclude.txt /home/poco /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase/WOPR-poco-SYNC2/15:08
poco_" to adding one more directory? tgm488315:08
tgm4883poco_: yea15:08
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poco_tgm4883, ok but right now, now SMB shares are mounted and the directory ends at /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/BackupDatabase. There's no /WOPR-poco-SYNC2 directory.15:10
poco_locally15:10
poco_*no SMB shares are mounted15:10
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tgm4883poco_: right. your backup job is creating that directory15:10
poco_ohhhh15:10
tgm4883poco_: so I'd add a "Backups' directory after "BackupDatabase" then fix your rsync job15:10
poco_but why would adding one more subdirectory not just create that directory as well?15:11
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tgm4883poco_: then, I'd test what happens when you run it without the SMB mounted15:11
tgm4883poco_: because it should just create one level of directory, I don't believe it creates the full path15:11
poco_tgm4883, hot damn you're right. Running that rsync as is, creates it locally, but one more directory stops it completely15:12
tgm4883poco_: perfect15:13
poco_tgm4883, nacc you guys are amazing. I'm glad I got to the root of the problem15:13
nacci think that's documented on the rsync man page too, but i'm not 100%15:13
tgm4883poco_: that cause Oregon represents, booya!15:13
naccheh15:13
* tgm4883 chest bumps nacc15:13
gulshanroot@kutta-Standard-PC-i440FX-PIIX-1996:/etc/pam.d# su - ngarg Creating directory '/home/userhome/navneesh'. Unable to create and initialize directory '/home/userhome/navneesh'. su: Permission denied15:14
wastreluser ngarg doesn't have permission to creat that directory15:15
wastreldoes /home/userhome/  exist?   what are the ownership and permissions?   is it a local or a network mount ?15:15
nacc!pastebin | gulshan15:15
ubottugulshan: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:15
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anddamhello15:28
anddamdoes GNOME Drive support require gnome-online-acounts package that carries gnome-control-center or is there an Ubuntu equivalent?15:30
anddamI'm reading http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/use-google-drive-ubuntu-16-04-linux-desktops and I'm on 16.0415:30
naccanddam: i don't undestand what youre asking -- does a gnome product require gnome stuff? yes.15:33
OerHeksgnome drive or google drive?15:33
OerHeksbut i think: yes, sudo apt install gnome-control-center gnome-online-accounts # will give access https://www.howtogeek.com/196635/an-official-google-drive-for-linux-is-here-sort-of-maybe-this-is-all-well-ever-get/15:34
anddamnacc: not neccessarily, I see Ubuntu "rebrands" features, or override those15:35
anddamOerHeks: didn't even know there's such a thing as GNOME Drive15:35
anddamoh wait, I wrote that15:35
naccanddam: you literally just wrote it...15:36
naccanddam: and the article you posted refers to those packages15:36
anddamthat was meant as "does GNOME's support for (Google) Drive"15:36
anddampoort phrasing on my side, I apologize15:36
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padhuanybody help me to install AMD driver. while installing 'fglrx installation requires that the system has kernel headers.  /lib/modules/4.8.0-42-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.' shows in the log file15:38
anddamI asked since I see System Settings has an Online Accounts pane but the entries for a Google account are different than those shown for google-online-accounts15:38
naccpadhu: no fglrx support after 16.0415:38
naccanddam: please stop mixing names15:38
anddamI thought that maybe there was an unity-online-accounts that was like gnome-online-accounts but integrated in Unity's System Settings15:38
naccanddam: gnome and google are different15:38
naccanddam: and it's hard to tell which you mean15:38
padhunacc: that's why i tried to install from source got from AMD website. while installing the above error shows and stoped15:39
anddamah damn, did it again15:39
anddams/google-online/gnome-online15:39
OerHeks!ati15:39
ubottuOpen driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD15:39
naccpadhu: no. it will  not work with newer kernels, i don't know why you think it will15:40
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padhunacc: thanks. Then give me good ubuntu supported graphics card for Intel core 2 duo,ASUS MX5 motherboard15:41
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lol768Hello, I recently did a do-release-upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. This did not go smoothly. apt-get -f install gives me "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages"15:42
padhunacc: Asus P5B-MX*15:42
tgm4883padhu: what graphics card do you have?15:42
padhutgm4883: ADM radeon HD 667015:42
OerHekspadhu, test it live? you would get the radeon open driver, some sort of fglrx15:43
tgm4883padhu: is the radeon driver not doing it for you?15:44
padhuOerHeks: I installed ubuntu 16.04. are you want me to try with live CD?15:44
padhutgm4883: yes15:44
tgm4883padhu: gaming?15:45
OerHekspadhu, oh, you are on 16.04, well, then you would have the radeon driver working already15:45
OerHekspadhu, it works fine for me, older card, hd5450, dual screen and capable of running 2 movies same time :-D15:45
padhuOerHeks: NO, I checked, System hanging for HD Movies to play15:46
padhutgm4883: Not for gaming. I just need to work15:46
padhuOerHeks: lucky15:46
lol768What should I do to try and correct the dependency issues?15:47
padhuOerHeks: tgm4883: Nope, I do anything for ubuntu functioning. I am decided to buy new card.15:47
lol768or should I just give up and do a fresh install?15:47
tgm4883padhu: any of the compatible nvidia cards should work. IDK about any AMD cards15:48
padhutgm4883: can you suggest me any good one15:48
OerHekslol768, just run updates, and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com15:48
padhuis Dr.willys is there?15:49
tgm4883padhu: have you tried the on board video?15:49
tgm4883if you're just trying to work, that should be fine I would think15:49
lol768OerHeks: by "just run updates", do you mean "sudo apt-get upgrade"?15:50
padhutgm4883: My mother board not having on-board GPU15:50
lol768Also, can you give me a command line friendly way to paste on paste.ubuntu.com? I'm not in X, and the greeter doesn't work15:50
padhutgm4883: I will look for your suggestion15:51
tgm4883padhu: really? I looked it up and it said it did. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P5BMX/15:51
nacc!pastebinit | lol76815:51
ubottulol768: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com15:51
OerHekslol768, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 999915:51
naccpadhu: your gpu doesn't work at all ?15:51
OerHeksmaybe you get an error that there will be a partial update, do that, and reboot & run updates again ...15:52
lol768http://termbin.com/w6d515:52
lol768Looks pretty dire to me :p15:52
padhunacc: yes15:52
padhutgm4883: I saw the link15:53
naccpadhu: that doesn't seem right15:53
OerHekslol768, err dotnet-dev-1.0.1-rc4-004906 ?? did that survive an distro upgrade???15:53
nacclol768: you have packages installed that dont seem to exist15:53
padhunacc: what you mean?15:53
lol768OerHeks: apparently! nacc: interesting, possibly from PPAs/third party repos?15:54
nacclol768: that's my guess15:54
lol768Here's apt-get install -f: http://termbin15:54
lol768Here's apt-get install -f: http://termbin/dejq15:54
OerHeksthat dotnet is @ 2.0.0 alpha now ... what a mess15:54
lol768Sorry I'm struggling to type URLs out on this phone..15:55
naccpadhu: can you clarify what you mean by the graphics card doesn't work? you don't get a desktop at all?15:55
lol768OerHeks: I'm happy to try and nuke packages like that and worry about reinstalling them later15:55
lol768Fixed URL: http://termbin.com/dejq15:55
padhunacc: Graphics card not working, I got a desktop15:55
lol768But right now I can't even do an apt-get remove15:56
naccpadhu: ok, *clarify* what 'graphics card no working' means, as i asked! are you able get to a graphical desktop?15:56
padhunacc: What i mean is i will not good acceleration in 16.04. It sucks while palying HD movie. compared to 14.0415:56
naccpadhu: that is not hte same at all15:57
naccpadhu: "no working" means it ... doesn't work.15:57
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lol768I mean right now running gdm gives me a bunch of initctl errors referencing upstart.. and I'm pretty sure ubuntu uses systemd now :(15:59
padhunacc: oh, I think that it's not working, that's why my media stuck playing. I tried with VLC, MPV, SMplayer, totem but hangs, scramble15:59
donaldrayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1N6PEklfc&t=1592s15:59
OerHeksdonaldray, should we click that youtube?16:00
donaldrayyes16:00
nacc!ot | donaldray16:00
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naccand probably !spam | donaldray16:01
OerHeksdonaldray, no we don  unless you tell the ubuntu support issue16:01
OerHeksoh spam, silly boy16:01
tgm4883posting unrequested youtube links should be an instaban16:01
kingsIs opera don't running ubuntu debian, anymore?16:01
nacckings: that is a confusing question16:01
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padhunacc:16:02
kingsi wants to install opera, but opera website said RPM package16:02
OerHekskingthey give rpm only, i noticed ..http://www.opera.com/computer/linux16:03
OerHeksbut..  tadaa little hack >> http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=Linux&package=DEB&utm_campaign=offline_installer_test16:03
OerHeks:-D16:03
stenton#join /startiot16:03
nacckings: and regardless, you shoud ask opera for support16:03
kingsthanks16:03
kingswhy they do start with RMP package? just wonder16:03
OerHeksnacc known issue, their page is a little off ..16:03
nacckings: you would need to ask them16:03
kingsah- true.16:04
donaldray#www.daviccarrico.com16:04
nacc!spam | donaldray16:05
ubottudonaldray: Please don't spam16:05
lenneI moved ubuntu onto a flash drive and my settings are on UEFI16:08
lennebut nothing appears when booting on windows 1016:08
lennewut do?16:08
gde33I wanted to try this here http://www.juergen-ernst.de/info_sane.html but which package do I need? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/perl/libdevice-usb-perl my cpu is intel and the system is 64 bit.16:09
OerHekslenne, disable fastboot, disable  Intel Smart Response , and it should work, see !uefi manual16:09
OerHeks!uefi16:10
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:10
OerHeksgde33, not jessie packages, unless you run jessie, then join #debian16:11
naccgde33: why are you looking at debian packages and asking in ubuntu?16:12
gde33I'm not sure, I would like to use this scanner, this page is all I could find and talks about that package.16:12
naccgde33: are you on debian?16:13
gde33no16:13
naccgde33: then don't use the debian package lists16:13
nacc!info sane xenial16:13
ubottusane (source: sane-frontends): scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-11 (xenial), package size 82 kB, installed size 317 kB16:13
naccgde33: --^16:13
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gde33I think that came with gscan2pdf ?16:14
gde33or do I have to install it seperately?16:14
gde33it says "no devide found"16:15
OerHeksgde33,  that url is the 'only' solution, what happens when you run that perlscript?16:18
gde33OerHeks: I dont really know how to :P16:18
gde33making it exectable and picking "run in terminal" does nothing16:19
OerHeksa quick search gives http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libdevice-usb-perl16:19
plasticuprojectCan anyone tell me why a default Ubuntu install lets the system log files grow to such massive sizes?16:20
OerHeksplasticuproject, errors do.16:20
phil-alexanderhello! I'm trying to get nfsv4 working with kerberos, could someone give me a hand? My export seems to mount correctly on the client, ownership and permissions seem to be preserved, but when I try to access it as root on the client it gives me permission denied. Ownership is root:root and permissions are 750. Not really sure what I could be doing wrong.16:21
OerHeksplasticuproject, grep the tail from xsessions or other log that seem to be growing, and paste them on paste.ubuntu.com16:21
plasticuprojectI'd just think the OS would put a size limit on the file. GB size log files are crazy.16:22
gde33OerHeks: how should I take "If you are running Ubuntu, it is strongly suggested to use a package manager like aptitude or synaptic to download and install packages, instead of doing so manually via this website."16:22
gde33do I just apt-get install packagename?16:22
plasticuprojectIt's happened on a few of my Ubuntu based OSs16:22
OerHeksgde33, yes, don't download packages anywhere, ust apt indeed16:23
EriC^^plasticuproject: use a separate /var maybe16:23
gde33sudo apt-get install libdevice-usb-perl16:23
OerHeksplasticuproject, gb size logs say that they are growing with lines/minute, sounds like a serious error, instead of complaining about logsizes, fix the error maybe?16:24
lenneI can't seem to figure this out16:25
plasticuprojectNaw, can't be serious, it doesn't effect my day to day operation at all.16:26
EriC^^lenne: figure what out?16:27
lennewhy I don't have an option to boot ubuntu after moving it onto a flash drive16:28
lenne64bit bios16:28
lenneused rufus and nothing appears16:29
lennegoing nuts16:29
EriC^^lenne: fast boot off and secure boot?16:29
tgm4883plasticuproject: which log?16:30
plasticuprojectand there are no errors in the tail of my logs, just....logs16:30
gde33OerHeks: it werked! thank you so much! :D you too nacc :)16:30
lennechecking now16:30
plasticuprojectsyslog, messages, and one other that I can't remember16:31
tgm4883plasticuproject: sounds like you should pastebin some of those logs so we can have a look16:31
gde33lol, it does require using windows to put the scanner head back to the start position -.-16:32
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plasticuprojectI'm not big on sharing stuff like that, it just seems to be logging EVERYTHING that I do.16:34
tgm4883plasticuproject: well without some snippet of log files, I'm not sure how you expect us to help you16:34
plasticuprojectMar 30 10:34:09 kal-el /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1450]: (II) input device 'Video Bus', /dev/input/event5 is tagged by udev as: Keyboard16:35
plasticuprojectfull of similar lines16:36
k1lplasticuproject: if its not ubuntu but "ubuntu based OSs" and you dont want to give details so people can see whats going in, then i dont see a point in asking for help in here :/16:36
plasticuprojectOkay, well this has happened to me in Ubuntu 16.04 as well.16:36
naphi16:36
k1lplasticuproject: doesnt matter. come back when you use ubuntu or a official flavor16:37
plasticuprojectAnd now I have experienced it again, on a different machine.16:37
tgm4883plasticuproject: this isn't happening to anyone else, and with 1 line of log files I'm going to suggest you're being intentionally vague. In any case, back to your original question of "Why doesn't ubuntu restrict log file sizes", Can you tell me how to restrict log file sizes?16:39
plasticuprojectI'm not a programmer, just a user. If my question doesn't make sense, then please just tell me.16:41
plasticuprojectI've come across others with a similar problem on web searches.16:42
plasticuprojectOn my Ubuntu 16.04 I was advised to install busybox-syslogd and reset the syslog and kern.log16:43
k1lif your logfile gets too big, that is just the symptom. the issue is, that some error is spamming the logs (for a reason). so instead of making the logs rotate more often one should fix the error that is spamming the logs.16:43
linuxgeckohow do i fix badly detected/not properly customized grub entries on 16.04?16:43
nacclinuxgecko: can you be more specific? (example in a pastebin maybe)16:44
k1lso with you running your non ubuntu OS i suggest you go to the support for that OS and provide them the logs to get help to get that error fixed.16:44
plasticuprojectOkay, thanks. I was just wondering why the OS would allow a log file to grow to such a size, so big that is could crash a system with low space...16:45
tgm4883plasticuproject: I just don't believe theres a way to do restrict the size of the logs files that's going to be useful. As others have already said, massive log files are a symptom of a problem, and one that should be fixed16:45
naccplasticuproject: your choice is either to lose log data or properly fix what is excessively logged -- ubuntu chooses the latter by default16:45
OerHeksit is like complaining about a bumpy road, when you have a flat tyre ..16:45
plasticuprojectI'm NOT complaining people!16:46
plasticuprojectI am just curios. Jesus.16:46
k1ltgm4883: one could use logrotate. but that is just making the error look more pretty. not helping anything.16:46
dstolfaplasticuproject: One thing you could so is put it on a separate partition and set a quota on that partition. I'm not familiar with Linux systems, but it's dead simple to do with ZFS16:46
tgm4883k1l: that only helps if the log fill is slow enough that it doesn't fill your disk in a day16:47
plasticuprojectI read on stack overflow someone who's log grew 1GB in a day16:48
plasticuprojectThat could crash a persistent live usb16:48
tgm4883plasticuproject: 1GB in a day? that's barely anything16:48
tgm4883plasticuproject: when you fill an 80GB partition with logs in a day, let me know16:49
plasticuprojectFor a syslog file? Seems like it to me.16:49
dstolfatgm4883: Google gets terabytes of logs on a daily basis with Dapper, kind of dwarfs the rest16:49
plgosjello16:49
plasticuprojectwell, 80GB, that would surely crash a live usb16:50
tgm4883plasticuproject: my point still stands, there's not a good way to restrict the size of that out of the box16:51
plasticuprojectI'm sure Goole does. Amazon is up there too I'm sure16:51
linuxgeckonacc: ubuntu is the distro controlling grub on my system, but i prefer another distro i have also installed on this box. the grub detection ees the kernel, and now also sees the initrd properly by default, but it specifies the root as /dev/dm-1, not as dev/vg/lv or by uuid, and does  not add any of the kernel options i need to boot it straight from the menu, instead having to edit it on each boot16:51
worktonerI followed a procedure to expand the size of my virtual ubuntu hard drive, and the drive now shows in gparted as using all the space (50GB) but for some rason Ubuntu shows me the old size when i use 'd f-h'16:51
plasticuprojecttgm4883: Thank you, that answers my question perfectly16:51
tgm4883plasticuproject: and the others point still stands as well. If you're bleeding out, the correct response is to stop the bleeding. Not just continually get blood transfusions16:52
bekksworktoner: Of course. Because you resized the virtual harddisk only. You did not resize the partition inside. You did not resize any filesystems.16:52
worktonerDoes anyone know if I need to run an additional command on ubuntu in order to get the OS to detect the new hard drive size? When I run 'fdisk -l' i can see the full hard drive16:52
naccplasticuproject: fwiw, you asked a question in the support channel -- which is for issues iwth ubuntu, not for general observations16:53
worktonerbekks: I used gparted to restructure the partitions16:53
naccworktoner: you probably need to rescan the disk16:53
worktonernacc: Sorry rescan?16:53
worktonerIts ubuntu 16 LTS also16:53
naccworktoner: echo 1 > /sys/block/<sdwhatever>/device/rescan ?16:54
naccworktoner: or so16:54
naccworktoner: also, i asssume you mean a VM?16:54
plasticuprojectnacc: Seriously?? You are splitting hairs.16:54
linuxgeckoworktoner: the dive may have been edited, but the system assumes it's the same as when you booted, untill you tell it to go check and realize the changes.16:54
worktonernacc: Yes this is a virtual machine16:54
worktonerlinuxgecko: Hmm.. I'm a little confused because the instructions I've seen (i checked a couple) don't mention that. They all say after gparted has adjusted the partition tables you should be good to go16:55
linuxgeckoworktoner:  usually, tools like gparted will handle the rescan for you.  that's why it's not usually included.16:56
worktonernacc: And that will begin the rescan?16:56
bekksworktoner: you could just exit gparted and run sudo partprobe.16:58
worktonerI did 'apt-get install scsitools' and 'rescan-scsi-bus'16:58
worktonerBut 'df -h' still shows me the old harddrive size16:59
bekksSo you did not resize your filesystems.16:59
worktonerIn fdisk -l I have /dev/sda2 at 50 GB but /dev/mapper/mybox--vg-root is only 17 GB16:59
bekksThats what I just said.16:59
bekksYou did not resize the LV and you did not resize the filesystem in the LV.17:00
worktonerApparently not17:00
worktonerIsn't that what gparted was doing for me??17:01
bekksNo.17:01
worktonerCan I do that with gparted?17:02
bekksNo :)17:02
ioriaworktoner, you can't manage lvm with gparted17:02
bekksworktoner: Just use lvresize and then resize your root fs.17:03
naccworktoner: rescan-scsi-bus just rescans the bus, not the disks17:04
linuxgeckonacc: any help from my specifics?17:04
naccworktoner: there is a flag to rescan-scsi-bus to force rescan17:06
linuxgeckobekks: i agree with yoru process for handling lv resizing, but gparted has tackled beasts with more bit if it gets done wrong, like ntfs, why not handle lvm by now?17:06
bekkslinuxgecko: Because no one implemented it in gparted.17:07
worktonernacc: After the rescan I still see /dev/mapper/mybox--vg-root at 17 GB17:07
naccworktoner: are you sure rescanned the correct device?17:07
bekksThe LV and the fs are still 17G.17:08
naccworktoner: wait, that's the LVM size17:08
naccworktoner: not the disk size17:08
bekksYou can scan it a gazillion times, it will not change.17:08
naccbekks: yes, thanks, sorry, am distracted :)17:08
plgosMy ubuntu install takes about an hour to load and sometimes the desktop glitches out and i have to reboot. What can i do to fix this?17:08
bekksplgos: You need to find the reason, start with investigating dmesg.17:09
ioriaplgos, you can also boot in text boot and follow the  process and where it halts17:10
OerHekssudo journalctl -- systemd-analyze blame - systemd-analyze critical-chain17:10
OerHekssystemd-analyze plot > {filename}.svg17:11
plgosOkay everything is recongnized i believe the only issue i can see is the cpu being used alot like my dual core is almost always capped at 60 70~ and my ram is almost maxed too when opening firefox it maxes17:11
ioriaplgos, usually it'a about  a disk  partition or service failing to start17:12
worktonerAha17:12
worktonerOk I figured it out thanks17:12
plgosis it normal for ubuntu to use alot of resources?17:12
OerHeksoh, running 100% when opening an app is bad?17:12
worktonernacc: Thanks I needed to resize the logical volume and resize the root filesystem17:12
naccplgos: all of your ram should lwasy be in use17:12
worktonerAppaently that was left out of these instructions I had before17:12
naccplgos: if possible17:12
worktonerI should take the rest of the day off..17:13
worktonerhehe17:13
plgosnacc: lwasy be in use?17:13
naccplgos: sorry, always be in use17:13
naccplgos: RAM is pointless to have sitting around17:13
plgosnacc: well i only have 2gb so i need to have at least some left over to open up more than 3 programs before crashing is there anything i can do to increase ubuntus preformace or do i have to resort to a different de/wm other than unity?17:15
plgosidk17:15
deanmanHi, i accidentally remove some evolution-* packages which resulted in a weird unity desktop (running xenial). Now "system settings" show this odd window with some settings but not the standard one as expected from unity. Any hints for me ?17:16
bekksplgos: did you check dmesg?17:17
rts-sanderhow much of the 2gb is de DE using?17:17
ioriaplgos, with 2G it's not recommend run ubuntu but a lighter DE17:17
ioria*ed17:17
plgosioria: it says my machine is more than whats recommended. But do you believe i should run a different de/wm17:21
plgosbekks: i did what exactly am i looking for it seems like everything is reconigzed17:21
plgosbekks: no issue with my gpu its there17:21
minimecdeanman: 'sudo apt install reinstall evolution' should give you the default evolution package selection again.17:22
bekksioria: 2G is more than enough for Ubuntu.17:22
OerHeksplgos, what GPU exactly?17:22
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bekksplgos: Can you pastebin the entire output of "dmesg" please, and share the link?17:23
minimecdeanman: It's 'sudo apt install --reinstall evolution' ;)17:24
plgosOerHeks:  nVidia GeForce 6200 64MB TurboCache Upto 256MB thats my gpu.17:26
plgosbekks: i cant really because im not in gui rn17:26
bekksplgos: You dont need a gui to do so.17:27
bekks!pastebin | plgos17:27
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bekks!pastebinit | plgos17:27
ubottuplgos: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:27
OerHeksi think that one is not even supported with the 304 driver, too old17:28
OerHeksso 2d and maybe youtube ..17:28
PipCan I install a i386 package on an X64 Ubuntu?17:29
plgosPip: yess17:29
Pipplgos, How to do that?17:30
OerHeksPip yes, apt install <package.deb:i38617:30
PipJust like that?17:30
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch17:30
plgosbekks: found a solution17:30
OerHeksPip sometimes you need to run apt install -f to get dependencies, but it works17:30
PipI see17:31
plgosdoes anyone have a guide to configure twm?17:33
ioriaplgos, are you sure you want to use it ? :þ17:35
chokiplgos: use i3wm17:35
plgosioria: ive used it in the past when i ran netbsd17:36
chokiit has great docs!17:36
bekksplgos: And what is your solution?17:36
ioriaplgos, my advice: 1) found why it lags 2) try Xubuntu17:36
chokixubuntu *_*17:36
chokiwhy people still use unity?17:37
bekksioria: 2G is enough for running Unity.17:37
chokixubuntu should be the main!17:37
ioriaok17:37
plgosbekks: throw unity out the window and use a working environment17:37
plgosbekks: twm works perfectly17:37
plgoschoki: it was fun on arch but idk not a huge fan of tiling wm if i had to use one id pick dwm or xmonad17:38
Ingenicim sitting at 1.8 GB of RAM used right now with firefox, irssi, and discord open on i3wm. i3 is pretty lightweight, so idk how 2GB of ram could run fluidly with a heavier desktop17:39
chokipcmasterrace!17:39
choki!war17:39
choki!war2?17:40
ubottuchoki: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:40
chokioh17:40
chokiyou're not a phrik :D17:40
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chokiubottu: still like ya ^.^17:40
ubottuchoki: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:40
plgosIngenic: nice but why not weechat? n what term?17:41
Ingenicplgos: I'm just used to irssi. Default ubuntu terminal, gnome-terminal i believe17:42
Menzadorchoki: ((ubottu is a Supybot))17:42
plgosIngenic: have you tried urxvt?17:43
chokiwhy all the hype about urxvt? it is a mess to configure!17:43
plgoschoki: i never had an issue17:43
IngenicI've tried it, but couldn't get it configured how I wanted. Ended up being a mess17:43
plgoschoki: it was pretty simple17:44
plgosIngenic: lol dont give up17:44
chokilol xD17:44
Ingenicplgos: already have lol. I got what i wanted somewhere else hhaha17:45
nicomachusis there any program I can use to keep one window on top all the time?17:45
ducassenicomachus: if your wm supports sticky windows, use that17:46
plgosIngenic: you'll feel more elite and accomplished lol17:46
EriC^^nicomachus: which de? even unity has that17:46
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Ingenicplgos: ehh, I would if I had more time. But for now, what I have works well enough17:47
plgosIngenic: ight I'm gonna end up being a lfs user i feel lol17:48
chokiducasse: wmcli17:49
chokiducasse: or devilspie17:50
ducassechoki: i'm not the one who asked17:50
Ingenicplgos: Good luck! I've tried arch because I wanted all the customization. Ended up just sticking with ubuntu and installing things I wanted on top cause building up from scratch ended up being way more than I was ready for, dependancy wise17:50
jnpras of now, what are some good x86 tablets to install ubuntu on?17:50
chokixD17:51
nicomachusEriC^^: unity17:51
EriC^^nicomachus: right click on the window border and choose always on top17:52
chokiEriC^^: i like your eyebrows!17:53
SimonNLthat's the choki I remember.17:53
nicomachusEriC^^: Don't have that option...17:53
EriC^^nicomachus: oh, maybe it's a compiz addition?17:53
nicomachusI have it on terminal windows, but not on chome17:54
nicomachuschrome*17:54
EriC^^oh17:54
plgosIngenic: arch is one of my main os no offence but wasn't that difficult im in here for my mom she had issues.17:54
plgosIngenic: thank you17:54
OerHeksjnpr, 'good tablets' have uefi, and 32 bit uefi is not well supported. * if it works, you might find hardware that does not work17:54
chokiSimonNL: lol xD i'm manu17:54
chokiSimonNL: never seen you on freenode so far17:54
SimonNLthat's the choki I remember17:54
chokiSimonNL: i will not come back to spotchat17:54
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SimonNLhanging around for a while now17:55
nicomachus!ot | choki SimonNL17:55
ubottuchoki SimonNL: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:55
chokinicomachus: oki17:55
SimonNLsorry nicomachus17:55
chokigtg17:55
chokisee ya17:55
SimonNL\o17:55
chokio/17:55
Ingenicplgos: I've tried it a few times, followed the guides, but when it comes down to it, I couldn't get it to boot. I love manjaro, but at my core im more of a ubuntu guy i guess lol17:56
nicomachusEriC^^: I figured it out17:56
nicomachusHave to select "use system tiles and borders" first, then "Always on Top"17:57
EriC^^nicomachus: aha, nice one17:57
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linuxgeckothis is a support channel, yes?18:04
azxyes18:04
OerHekslinuxgecko, yes, see the topic18:04
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linuxgeckoOerHeks: pardon some of my cheek, but i asked a question, someone asked for specifics, and i provided them, and noone has tried to respond, afaict, including the person who asked.18:06
linuxgeckonot even a "sorry, i don't know how to help more on that.18:07
nacclinuxgecko: sorry, it got lost in the backscroll (and i confused you with a different user)18:08
nacclinuxgecko: edit /etc/default/grub probably as appropriate18:08
linuxgeckonacc: sorry for the blowout, too, but i'm not having the best of days.18:09
OerHekslinuxgecko, don't worry, repeat your question from time to time, not every minute that is18:10
nacclinuxgecko: also, we are all volunteers18:10
linuxgeckonacc: i thought i tried that once, but I'll see if it works now. should that work on next boot, or do i need to run some commands also?18:10
nacclinuxgecko: after editing it, you need to run `update-grub`18:10
nacclinuxgecko: which will rewrite the grub config18:10
ayush1706Hey18:11
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:11
ayush1706Anyone used or using kernelcare here?18:11
naccayush1706: is that an ubuntu package?18:12
bekksjnpr: basically, there are no good x86 tablets.18:12
jnprbekks, that was my understanding18:12
OerHeksayush1706, most people here use livepatch http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-enable-the-canonical-live-patch-service-in-ubuntu-16-04/18:13
ayush1706nacc its basically18:13
ayush1706nacc: Its basically a cloudlinux package which installs patches without requiring reboot18:13
OerHeksayush1706, kernelcare is not free for 3 machines.18:14
OerHekslivepatch is...18:14
naccayush1706: that would be what OerHeks is referring to, in the ubuntu world, livepatch18:14
ayush1706OerHeks, yeah I know. we have its license already. Its running on centos. Needed some help in setting it up on Ubuntu18:14
ayush1706nacc, Yeah similar thing18:15
OerHeksayush1706, i think you find no answer here, for paid stuff while there is a beter solution, kernelcare has a history of failures.18:16
ayush1706OerHeks, Umm okay. Thanks :)18:17
OerHeksayush1706, you could re-ask the guys in #ubuntu-server, not sure about them.18:18
ayush1706OerHeks, Ohh cool. Makes sense. I'll try that18:18
_laceylaneyProblems mounting android phone after re-installing xubuntu on laptop. Full details and info here >> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2357162&p=13627204#post13627204 << Can anyone help ??18:23
emachinesola18:24
_laceylaneyHIHI ^^18:25
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emachineshola18:32
_laceylaneyHIHI ^^18:33
emachines_HOLIS18:33
emachinespene18:33
nicomachus!ot | all please:18:33
emachines_JAJJJAJAJJAJAJJA18:33
ubottuall please:: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:33
emachineslol18:33
emachineseggregegershr18:33
emachines_PENE18:33
emachines_PENEGRO18:33
nicomachusemachines_: stop.18:34
LuC|FeRhi all18:34
_laceylaneyGuys... I have problems mounting my android phone after re-installing xubuntu on laptop. Full details and info here >> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2357162&p=13627204#post13627204 << Can anyone help ??18:34
nicomachus_laceylaney: have you installed adb?18:35
_laceylaneyno I have not installed adb18:35
_laceylaneyI did not install it last time and my phone worked without any bother.18:35
nicomachus_laceylaney: install `android-tools-adb` then run 'adb devices' and see if your phone is listed.18:36
LuC|FeRi have a problem is that i have this message when i try "apt-get update" : W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security Release' does not have a Release file.18:36
_laceylaneyok give me a sec to do all of that ;-)18:36
OerHekslucid is EOL. dead.18:37
yorchhola18:37
yorchhi18:37
yorchjelou18:37
OerHeksLucid Desktop support ended May 9 201318:37
nicomachushi yorch. English, please.18:37
yorchlol18:37
OerHeksLuC|FeR, i would do a fresh install of 16.04 lts.18:38
yorchJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJA18:38
ducasseyorch: stop18:38
yorchHELP ME18:38
yorchME VAN A MATAR18:38
LuC|FeRyes i did it18:38
* nicomachus sighs18:38
yorchPLEASE18:38
_laceylaneynicomachus: No device is listed whenever I run that command.18:39
ducasseLuC|FeR: lucid is no longer supported, you need to upgrade18:39
nicomachus_laceylaney: do you have debugging enabled in your phone?18:39
ducasse!eolupgrade | LuC|FeR18:39
ubottuLuC|FeR: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:39
_laceylaneyyes I do and I have tried turning it off also.18:39
OerHeks10.04 > 12.04 ( few days left) > 14.04 > 16.0418:39
LuC|FeROerHeks : 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:40
_laceylaneyok so I unplugged my phone and rebooted it. It now appears under adb devices :-)18:41
_laceylaneyList of devices attached18:41
_laceylaneyMWS0216516000747device18:41
nicomachus_laceylaney: ok. is it set as an MTP device on the phone? I think mine defaults to charge only. Should be something in the notification menu about it.18:41
OerHeksLuC|FeR, so then you have lucid sources in your sources.list ??18:41
ducasseLuC|FeR: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list18:41
OerHeksand "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ "18:42
_laceylaneyYes mine sets to charge by default also but when I pull the notification bar down from the top I can select either photos or files. I usually just select files...18:42
OerHeksthat is where punny ppa's go.18:42
TRexHurrdrurrii18:42
TRexthe fuck hwo do i chane nick?18:43
TRexsays this ones taken...18:43
ducasse!ohmy | TRex18:43
ubottuTRex: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:43
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LuC|FeROerHeks i had a problem on update and i did some modifed on the source.liste18:43
IdleOne/nick TRex-anotherNick18:43
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TRex-HurdurriiAlright thanks :D18:44
LuC|FeROerHeks i also rm on source.liste.d18:44
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aroghey, can I ask shell script questions here18:44
arognever mind i got it in #bash18:44
LuC|FeROerHeks but the probelm is when i change on the source.list i still get the same problem18:45
OerHeksLuC|FeR, that would not be the ubuntu way, just deleting might give issues when you have installed any package through a ppa listed there...18:45
_laceylaneyIn the link i posted earlier I provided a link to dmesg. I don't know what to make of the output but maybe there is some error occurring or something ??18:45
OerHeksso lets see your sources list, as ducasse asked?18:45
LuC|FeROerHeks i get it back as before now18:48
LuC|FeR xenial/18:48
acresearchpeople, what is the different between sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?18:49
ducasseacresearch: update refreshes package lists, upgrade installs new packages18:49
skinuxWhere the hell is the default web root directory for Jetty???18:49
OerHeksupdates gets fresh lists, upgrade gets the packages18:49
acresearchducasse: ohhh ok thanks18:49
acresearchOerHeks: thanks18:49
OerHeksfull-update gets kernels too18:50
ducasseacresearch: you probably want to use dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade18:50
OerHeksso always run full-update, to be sure...18:50
naccOerHeks: full-upgrade?18:50
acresearchhmmm ok18:50
OerHeksfull/dist .. there are more options i think.18:51
acresearchis there is a difference between dist-upgrade and full-upgrade?18:51
naccOerHeks: right, i meant full-upgrade not full-update :)18:51
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naccacresearch: dist-upgrade is old syntax for apt-get, use full-upgrade with apt (and dist-upgrade is around as an alias)18:51
acresearchoh ok18:51
OerHeksapt has parameter full-upgrade,18:51
OerHeksapt-get has parameter dist-upgrade18:51
OerHeksapt full-upgrade performs the same function as apt-get dist-upgrade.18:51
naccOerHeks: i think apt also supports dist-upgrade, just doesn't document it :)18:52
acresearchi see18:52
naccOerHeks: just checked, it does :)18:52
acresearchso alwat better to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:52
naccacresearch: are you on 16.04?18:52
acresearchthat is after i run update :-)18:52
acresearchnacc: yes18:52
naccacresearch: sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade18:52
naccacresearch: don't bother with anything else18:52
acresearchnacc: ok18:53
naccOerHeks: funnily `man apt` has tons of references into the `man apt-get` pages :)18:53
OerHeksfull-update gets kernels too, i use it standard18:53
naccOerHeks: again, 'full-upgrade' :)18:53
OerHekserr yes, typo18:53
naccjust so it's not confusing for others18:53
acresearch:-)18:53
OerHeksyay, robots don't do typos .. do they?18:54
LuC|FeROerHeks how can i do a full-update18:54
nicomachusha18:54
ioriahal 900018:55
ducasseLuC|FeR: that was a typo18:55
LuC|FeRah ok18:55
LuC|FeR:)18:55
ducasseLuC|FeR: he meant full-upgrade18:55
LuC|FeRah ok18:55
xcyclistI'm getting frequent errors from various situations, including apt, about my timezone settings not being correct.18:56
xcyclist File "/usr/lib/python2.7/locale.py", line 581, in setlocale18:57
xcyclistperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "es:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LC_TIME = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_MONETARY = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_ADDRESS = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_NAME = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_NUMERIC = "en_US.UTF-8", LC_PAPER = "en_US.UTF-8", LANG = "en_us.UTF-8"18:57
wastrelwhat's your locale18:58
xcyclistUnited States it appears.18:58
wastrelenv | grep LANG18:58
wastrelactually echo $LANG18:59
xcyclistroot@delllap:~# env | grep LANG LANG=en_us.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=es:en root@delllap:~#18:59
nicomachusxcyclist: oof. why are you root?19:00
marty__by chance is anyone familar with lubuntu or pups?19:00
wastrelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale19:00
xcyclist$ env | grep LANG LANG=en_US.UTF-8 GDM_LANG=en_US LANGUAGE=en_US:en19:01
nicomachusmarty__: this is ubuntu support, so yes lots of people here are familiar with lubuntu. what's your issue? details please.19:01
marty__im currently running ubuntu 16.04 on my main computer, im looking to get another computer going and it has limited ram, im looking for the best version of a ubuntu series for the best plug and play network options19:03
marty__i hate dealing with drivers19:03
nicomachusmarty__: all ubuntu derivatives should have the same drivers, as far as I know.19:04
ioriamarty__, that depends on your networks device, i guess19:04
marty__? ioria19:04
nicomachusso staying up to date (16.04 LTS) should be the safest bet. but I'm not sure that any derivative is going to give you different behavior. ioria is right, though, that network devices are usually the biggest problem.19:04
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naccxcyclist: 'es:en' seems like a wrong LANGUAGE setting?19:05
GumaDoes any one know how to source .bashrc when creating .desktop file? I did try to modify Exec=bash -c -i  /opt/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator. But when I try to run it I get error in syslog stating "/opt/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator: /opt/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator: cannot execute binary file"19:06
GumaIf I remove bash -i -c then it works but env variables are not picked up19:07
Gumafrom .bashrc19:07
marty__so what version is recomended for a celeron processor and about 700 mb ram?19:07
xcyclistI think I got that because my wife and I both speak Spanish and English.19:07
xcyclistBut it would have been a setting from the GUI.19:07
marty__or a place i can find such information19:07
ioriamarty__,  lubuntu is great for low ram, but it does not help you if your devices are not supported19:07
naccxcyclist: interesting, i've not seen the colon-separated version, is that documented anywhere?19:08
xcyclistI am sorry I do not know.  I wish I had not done it.  I need to get work done and do not with to mess with locale at all.19:09
marty__im using a usb antenna and it works fine for 16.04, and the hard ware for networking between the two computers is the same, so if i were to go with like 14.04 tahr, it should work?19:10
naccxcyclist: can you pastebin the command and full error you get?19:10
nacc!pastebin | xcyclist19:10
ubottuxcyclist: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:10
xcyclistPerhaps I should initialize it somehow and reboot.  I don't want to meowss with this right now19:10
ioriamarty__, 16.04 kernel is newer that 3.13 trusty kern ... so, again, depends on your hw19:11
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xcyclistOk...19:12
ioriamarty__, you can easily test it from Livecd19:12
cmecca-hey all quick question, for 14.04; if /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades 20auto-upgrades or 10periodic are missing, will /etc/cron.daily/apt (or any other automated apt process) assume those values as 1 by default, or 0..19:12
naccmarty__: but if you use the 14.04.5 hwe kernel, you get the same as on 16.04.0/1 (kernel and X at least) -- but i'm not sure why, if you have a working 16.04 you're considering 14.04?19:12
ioriaxcyclist, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales19:14
xcyclistWell, hello, now that I've messed with it the problem has gone away.19:14
xcyclistWell, hello, now that I've messed with it the problem has gone away.19:14
xcyclistSorry guys19:14
xcyclistI'll bring it back here immediately if I see it again.  I hope not.19:14
marty__im making a secondary computer nacc19:16
marty__im just looking for the most compatabilty19:16
marty__i dont want to have to keep switching files from one to the next i just want the same networking on the new one that i have on the 16.0419:17
ioriamarty__,  so, why trusty ? amd issue ?19:17
marty__thats what im asking ioria, is trusty a good idea or is another recomeded?19:18
marty__im not familar with the series19:18
laceylaneymarty__: just give lubuntu a try. You might be surprised at what it can do.19:19
ioriamarty__,  we should know the pc specs ... but if you're good with xenial, stay with xenial19:21
minimecmarty__: I would go with lubuntu 16.04 lts. May consider zram or zswap as addition.19:21
marty__i cant support any version of lubuntu 16,19:24
marty__whats right under that?19:24
xcyclistI just posted this to python group too,but it may be appropriate here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24283025/19:24
ioriamarty__,  i lost you19:25
marty__im so confused about this all19:26
minimecmarty__: I don't understand. Oh.. Do you need a 'pae' kernel? In this case, start with 14.04 and then upgrade to 16.04. That should be possible. But lubuntu 16.04 may even ship with a 'pae' kernel on the installation .iso.19:26
marty__what specs do you need ioria19:26
ioriamarty__,  you can check your hw with lspci -k19:27
xcyclistSay, sorry to sound dumb, but is here a way to use- apt-cache search to just find those things that are installed, or not installed, exclusively?19:27
ioriaxcyclist, nope19:28
ioriaxcyclist,  you use apt-cache policy or dpkg -l19:28
minimecxcyclist: ' apt list | grep installed19:28
marty__http://paste.ubuntu.com/24283043/ ioria19:28
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xcyclistThank you.19:30
yasmahi19:31
xcyclistWARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.19:31
S0baitHi I have a USB device plugged in and I can see it in /dev/myDevice19:31
ioriamarty__,  are you kidding ?19:32
S0baithowever, when I run this.. it says "File does not exist"19:32
ppfany idea how to stream chrome to another linux box?19:32
xcyclistFor some reason I have a bunch of python3 stuff installed, even though I am a python2.7 installation.19:32
S0bait[ -f /dev/myDevice ] && echo "File exist" || echo "File does not exist"19:32
ppfesp. while video playback is running?19:32
marty__i honestly dont know explain it to me19:32
S0baitis it because its  avirtual device?19:32
marty__im sorry19:32
ducasseminimec: xcyclist -  'apt list --installed' also works19:33
yasmawhat gpe-shield?19:33
S0baitAlso, when I use this to run a command: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65891/how-to-execute-a-shellscript-when-i-plug-in-a-usb-device will it stop when the USB device disconnects?19:34
yasmahow can get that?19:34
xcyclistYes, that appears to yiueld the same report.19:34
naccxcyclist: python3 is fine and most stuff has been migrated to it, but python is still python2.719:34
yasmawhat gpe-shield?19:35
xcyclistThe default python install on this Ubuntu is apparently 2.7.19:35
ducasseyasma: sorry, what is your question?19:35
xcyclistso I took the default.19:35
naccS0bait: dev nodes are not regular files19:35
naccS0bait: maybe?19:35
naccxyyes, that is always the case19:35
naccxcyclist: yes, that is always the case19:36
naccxcyclist: do you have an actual issue?19:36
naccmarty__: what are you finding confusing?19:36
yasmai serch in this page :https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gpe-shield/19:36
xcyclistWell, originally I was installing python stuff with apt.  Then I tried sudo pip and I got stuff mucked up.19:36
xcyclistSo now the python folks say never ever use sudo pip19:36
naccxcyclist: right, you don't need sudo for pip19:37
xcyclistI wonder which it was, the pip, the apt, or the sudo pip but I cannot for instance get a good pip install now.19:37
naccxcyclist: and it's wrong to use sudo for it, anyways, as that will ust install it for the root user19:37
xcyclistI don't know how to get to a clean initial state for pip19:37
yasmaand  ertered my address mail for link for download19:37
xcyclistSo I think I may need to pip clean my root area19:37
xcyclistor sudo pip clean or some such thing.19:38
ducasseyasma: that is obsolete stuff, look at the releases on the left side19:38
xcyclistI hope I don't need to reinstall ubuntu.19:38
yasmabut i can not download19:38
naccyasma: i don't think apps.ubuntu.com is anything anymore19:38
naccyasma: and if you're on ubuntu, i dont' know why you'd use it anyways19:38
yasmai have ubuntu 16.0419:38
xcyclistMy intention is to follow these lessons on scientific programming in python.19:39
ducasseyasma: no, it was last available for 13.1019:39
naccxcyclist: there is no pip clean, you'll hve to use pip list and then pip uninstall them19:39
xcyclistSo, my outstanding question is:  Can I clean my ubuntu for using pip.19:39
yasmaok19:39
yasmathanks19:39
xcyclistOk. ...19:39
naccxcyclist: i don't know what you did exactly, 'sudo pip' isn't a command and don't know what you broke19:40
naccxcyclist: *don't* do things as root (sudo) unless you know exactly what they do and how to undo them19:40
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283094/19:41
naccxcyclist: and can you pastebin `locale` output19:42
tgm4883why are you logged in as root19:42
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283102/19:43
xcyclisttgm4883:  TO demonstrate the problem.19:43
naccxcyclist: i have no idea how you broke locales so badly that `locale` emits errors19:43
marty__nacc im building a computer, i just want to know what operating system to put on it, ( aka : ubuntu 14,15? lubuntu ect ) >> said computer << has an old processor, ( an intel celeron ) and very little ram ( about 740 mb ) i origonally download ubuntu 10.04, but when i came across a problem i was chewed out and told that i would not recieve help because 10 was no longer supported <<<<<<< what operating system am i19:43
marty__downloading to < said computer > so if issues or questions come up i can get help.19:43
naccxcyclist: butg your default locale is buggy19:44
naccmarty__: ok, first off, only put supported releases on machines19:44
xcyclistOkay, so that sounds like I need to completely reinstall ubuntu.19:44
naccmarty__: 12.04 (although that is going to eol soon), 14.04 or 16.04 (these are the LTS releases)19:44
naccmarty__: i would say in your case, 14.04 or 16.0419:44
marty__thank you19:45
naccmarty__: i would not use ubuntu on that system, as it has too little ram to be a functional desktop, afaict19:45
naccmarty__: lubuntu may be worth trying from liveUSB19:45
naccmarty__: is there a reason you are choosing to build an obsolete computer that probably won't perform very well?19:45
marty__yes19:46
naccxcyclist: are you on 16.04?19:46
k11011011Hi folks19:46
k11011011How to user from all groups in bash?19:47
nacck11011011: i think you are missing a verb19:47
k11011011nacc: what do you mean?19:47
marty__nacc yes, it has the old floppy floppy disk drive and the disket drive, trying to get them transferd to a stable desktop19:47
nacck11011011: "How to user"19:47
k11011011ah yea19:47
k11011011Remove*19:47
marty__sorry i have a bunch of games im trying to transfer to a stable desktop19:47
naccmarty__: huh? so you're building an old computer just to take files off of it?19:48
marty__nacc yes and its a gift afterwords for an old foggy that has never touched a computer19:48
nacck11011011: deluser <user> <group>19:49
k11011011nacc: all groups19:49
nacck11011011: do it in a loop over all groups the user is part of19:50
nacck11011011: trivial bash loop19:50
k11011011OK19:50
naccmarty__: doesn't seem like such a kind gift :)19:50
wildpenguinis Gnome19:50
minimeck11011011: 'cat /etc/group | grep <user>' to list the groups, where <user> is in...19:50
wildpenguinis Gnome19:50
naccmarty__: but ok, i'm not sure it really makes sense to put ubuntu on it -- there might be better distributions for such a hardware limited system19:50
naccmarty__: lubuntu is worth trying, i suppose, but even then -- i think it will not be very fun to use19:51
ivan_hi19:51
naccwildpenguin: do you have a question?19:51
wildpenguinis Gnome3 the most advance DE available now?19:51
naccwildpenguin: define 'advance'? do you mean in the gnome family?19:51
wildpenguinmay be19:51
ppfwell it certainly has the highest number in all the gnomes!19:52
wildpenguindon't have any idea about the families here.19:52
naccwildpenguin: why are you asking that question, then?19:52
naccwildpenguin: what is your *actual* question19:52
wildpenguinI thought of trying that if that is more convenient and intuitive19:53
wildpenguinUsing Mate and Lubuntu Desktop now.19:53
marty__nacc can you recommend a distribution? something that will support internet19:53
xcyclistI just got this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24283147/19:53
naccmarty__: i am not sure19:53
wildpenguinhow can I install the complet Gnome 3 desktop?19:54
xcyclistgoing through the manual procedure on this URL:19:54
xcyclisthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/748289/how-to-repair-ubuntu-installation-after-broken-dist-upgrade-without-losing-any-c19:54
xcyclistSo it is still not fixed.19:54
xcyclistI was noticing this problem before I did anything with Python.19:54
cmecca-wildpenguin: sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell19:55
naccxcyclist: yes, something is wrong with your locales19:55
marty__unetbootin supports lubuntu right?19:55
cmecca-hey all quick question, for 14.04; if /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades 20auto-upgrades or 10periodic are missing, will /etc/cron.daily/apt (or any other automated apt process) assume those values as 1 by default, or 0..19:55
minimecmarty__: INstead of asking the same question a 100 times again. I think most of us here would recommend to try lubuntu 16.04 lts. See if it works. As you have the ubuntu base, hardware should be well supported. Other distributions will not really use less ram, as it is the GUI environment that takes most of the available RAM, not the underlaying base installation.19:55
naccxcyclist: can you pastebin /etc/locale.gen?19:56
wildpenguincmecca, will it create any problems if two other DE are already installed?19:56
wildpenguincould it slow down the system?19:56
xcyclistok...19:56
minimecmarty__: ONly possibility would be to take something like 'gentoo' and compile the whole software specially for your device, but that takes a lot of time.19:56
cmecca-wildpenguin: no i have multiple installed on my laptop -- just pay attention to the questions it asks, specifically when it asks you to select the login manager (lightdm (unity default) vs gdm, etc)19:56
wildpenguinok.19:57
xcyclistroot@delllap:~# wc -l /etc/locale.gen 486 /etc/locale.gen19:57
marty__minimec i repeat, the system will not support 16.04,  thanks tho19:57
OerHekswildpenguin, try it yourself crazytux :-D19:57
wildpenguinthat command above will install the complete desktop? nothing more needed?19:57
cmecca-wildpenguin: yep19:57
minimecmarty__: Why will it not support 16.04? Because of 'pae'?19:58
naccxcyclist: so? `pastebinit <  /etc/locale.gen`19:58
wildpenguinI don't want the system to become unstable after I try that. Can't reinstall Ubuntu.19:58
S0baitHi19:58
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283165/19:58
S0baitI have a bunch of arduinos on my computer which i have symlinked using udev.19:58
naccxcyclist: why did you cut the file up?19:59
S0baitI want to run a command which connects them to my ros when plugged in.. how do i go about doing that?19:59
naccxcyclist: i can't help you if you don't provide the data19:59
S0baitI know udev has a RUN command but I am not sure, what would happen when its disconnected, would that stay running or would it stop19:59
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283169/20:00
OerHeksS0bait, "a bunch of arduinos on my computer" virtual??20:00
xcyclistSorry man I'm just slow20:00
S0baitOerHeks: I have 5 arduinos connected to my machine, when they are connected I want to run rosserial command.20:01
S0baitOerHeks: Each of them starts a blocking process.20:01
S0baitOerHeks: Example command: rosrun rosserial_python serial_node.py /dev/itadard2 __name:=sonartest20:02
xcyclistnacc:  Does that show anything?20:03
OerHeksS0bait, 1st time i heard of rosserial, it is not in our repos20:03
naccxcyclist: try running `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales` and then picking whichever locales you want and then specifying which default locale you want20:04
S0baitOerHeks: Its ROS www.ros.org20:04
OerHeksmaybe more luck in arduino channel?20:04
S0baitit provides a bunch of script to make a virtual connection to arduino and provides extra libraries20:04
xcyclistOk.20:05
S0baitOerHeks: I think it doesnt matter waht command I am running though. I just want to know howdo I run a script when a usb is plugged in, and what happens to that spawned process when usb is taken off.20:05
naccS0bait: RUN is for short-lived foreground processes20:05
S0baitSo I am not asking an ROS specific question here.. just what is the behavior or udev RUN c20:05
naccS0bait: `man udev`20:05
marty__minimec honestly i dont know i use usb as the boot medum and it just jumps straight to no bootable device or to the previous os20:06
wildpenguinwhat should be the default display manager? I am installing Gnome 3 DE.20:06
OerHeksS0bait, oke, something like this, except DRIVERS=="usb-storage" should be something that matches arduino?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/625243/how-to-execute-c-program-whenever-a-usb-flash-drive-is-inserted20:07
xcyclistI see why I picked all before.  It was the easiest choice.20:07
wildpenguingdm 3 or lightdm?20:07
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wasutton3so i've got an nfs server set up on arch, and im trying to configure an ubuntu client.20:08
wasutton3I'm trying to mount the nfs share on something owned by www-data:www-data, and it mounts properly.20:08
wasutton3however, its not writable, even by root20:08
minimecmarty__: Ok. It might be, that your old computer does need a special kernel to boot. I you still have that installatioin medium, you can try to put a boot option. See here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE20:09
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bekkswasutton3: Did you share it readonly on the server?20:09
minimecmarty__: Even though that page is for 'ubuntu', it will be the same for 'lubuntu'.20:09
wasutton3bekks, not that im aware of20:09
wasutton3this is the fstab line: /media/Array/Zoneminder/images  /srv/nfs/zm-images      none    bind    0       020:09
bekkswasutton3: So show us your specific line of /etc/exports on the server please.20:10
wildpenguinPlease can anybody help me?20:10
k11011011# 6) Remove the user from all groups  13 IFS=' ' groups=($(id -Gn $username))  14 unset IFS  15 printf "%s\n" "${groups[@]}"  16 for e in "${groups[@]}"  17 do  18         :  19         # deluser $username $e  20 done20:10
k11011011:D20:10
wasutton3here: /srv/nfs/zm-images10.0.0.0/8(rw,no_subtree_check,nohide)20:10
k11011011Yeah, yeah I know about pastebin20:10
bekkswasutton3: And which permissions are set on that /srv/nfs/zm-images path?20:10
xcyclistDone.  I got this error at theend:  *** update-locale: Warning: LANGUAGE ("es:en") is not compatible with LANG (en_US). Disabling it.20:11
bekksxcyclist: Thats a warning, not an error.20:11
wildpenguin what should be the default display manager? I am installing Gnome 3 DE.20:11
nacck11011011: ... it's not funny, it's noise. If you know, use it :)20:11
xcyclistI still get the same error on my reinstall.20:11
wildpenguingdm 3 or lightdm?20:12
naccwildpenguin: whatever you choose, if you ahve multiple desktop environemnts20:12
wildpenguinok20:12
naccwildpenguin: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm` shoudl allow you to choose20:12
wasutton3bekks, 755 on /srv on /srv/nfs20:12
dieterdwasutton3: For me once, there was no way for writeable, because file system needed to repair.20:12
wildpenguinI have Mate and Lubuntu DE now. Want to install Gnome 3.20:12
bekkswasutton3: for root:root?20:12
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283226/20:12
wasutton3dieterd, nope this filesystem works. I've got an arch client with the same fstab working just fine20:12
naccxcyclist: try unsetting LANGAUGE first (sudo LANGUAGE= apt reinstall....)20:12
wasutton3bekks, yes20:12
bekkswasutton3: So no one besides root is able to write stuff into that folder. And root is denied, du to the missing "no_root_squash" option.20:13
xcyclistOk.20:13
wasutton3bekks, but wouldn't those permissions only matter for /srv/nfs and /srv/nfs/zm-images ?20:14
bekkswasutton3: we are talking about /srv/nfs/zm-images only, so far. And no one besides root is allowed to create stuff in there.20:14
wasutton3right, so if i chmod 777 (bad practice) /srv/nfs/zm-images, it should work20:15
xcyclistThat ,didn't help, but I logged out and logged back in and it worked.20:15
marty__minimec thank you thank you thankyou20:15
minimecmarty__: So I guess it worked... ;)20:15
k11011011guys another question20:16
marty__sarcasm20:18
abaday1can someone help me translate smartctl -A /pathto/device ? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24283234/ How does my harddrive look?20:21
ivan_how to use hexchat?20:23
bekksabaday1: It's about to die soon, I'd say.20:23
OerHeksivan_,  tons of howto's https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-use-hexchat-ubuntu-16-0420:24
abaday1bekks: o lawd, which line is it that shows how sick my drive is?20:24
OerHeksivan_, and detailed http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/settings.html20:25
bekksabaday1: line 9 and 13.20:25
xcyclistso my pip install is now completely broken20:26
naccxcyclist: ?20:26
xcyclisthttps://paste.pound-python.org/show/PrTgiyOmYShljabbt9WH/20:26
abaday1bekks: thank you, is it the large number in the end that show?20:26
naccxcyclist: do you understand what pip is? your pip install is probably fine, but the packages you installed with pip may be an issue20:26
bekksabaday1: yes20:26
naccxcyclist: where did you get pip from?20:26
abaday1bekks: thanks for the help20:27
xcyclistI apt-get installed it, but then I used pip itself to update it.20:27
Sna4x81Tried to update from nvidia-331 to nvidia-375, and now I can't log in (I get the login screen, but when I log in it just flashes and brings me back to the login screen).  I've tried purging nvidia* and reinstalling 375, purging and reinstalling 331... no luck.  I've seen a number of threads online with similar issues, but they are mostly related to optimus, which I don't have on this box.  TIA.20:27
jaelaehey all. im looking to setup some vmware ubuntu desktops for users. what is the recommended way to allow a connection? something similar to windows RDP but not as bandwidth of a hogg is VNC20:28
ivan_@ivan20:28
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xcyclistI just removed it and re-installed it with apt and it us still broken.  Is there a way to remove it and replace it repaired?20:30
xcyclistMan this is a time sink!20:30
truelaidid you purge?20:31
truelaixcyclist: apt get remove --purge20:31
truelaiapt-get20:31
OerHeksxcyclist, maybe remove ~/.cache/pip ??20:33
xcyclistI did try that once....trying again...20:33
xcyclistNope.  Same end.20:34
truelaihttp://askubuntu.com/questions/231562/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-get-purge-and-apt-get-remove20:34
xcyclistIs there a way to go back to previous pip?20:35
xcyclistIs there ato ay to clean out pip from the system entirely and start over?20:35
xcyclistCripes, If I had reinstalled ubuntu two hours ago I'd be done by now.20:36
Ben64xcyclist: whats the issue20:36
xcyclisthttps://paste.pound-python.org/show/PrTgiyOmYShljabbt9WH/20:36
Ben64check line 2720:36
xcyclisthttps://paste.pound-python.org/show/oDMYhOGbjWDrg55TEWzV/20:37
Ben64ok, check line 2620:37
xcyclist Okay, there is no dist-packages file.20:39
manu_hello20:39
Ben64xcyclist: are you sure, that's not what the error says20:39
xcyclistIt appears I need to clear and reinstall pip, but I do not know how.20:39
xcyclistOkay, just abit...20:39
xcyclist$ ls -al /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages ls: cannot access '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages': No such file or directory20:40
xcyclistI copied directly from the error message.20:41
Ben64anyway, try sudo pip install20:41
xcyclistOk.20:41
Ben64the no permissions error means you don't have permissions20:41
xcyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24283427/20:42
Ben64well you have to tell it what to install20:42
xcyclistYes, that works, with the warning, but I have been told to NOT do it that way.20:43
xcyclistSo what to do?20:43
Ben64i'd do it that way20:44
naccxcyclist: i have no idea what you did wrong; on my system, you don't need sudo20:44
naccxcyclist: and it works fine20:44
xcyclistYes, but what Ilikely did was install one time with sudo.20:44
naccxcyclist: and you really shouldn't use sudo with pip, it will lead to relatively serious breakage eventually20:44
xcyclistOnce I did that, I fear this began.20:44
naccxcyclist: yes and as i told you20:44
naccxcyclist: you need to pip list and pip uninstall them all with sudo20:44
xcyclistSo how to fix it.  Reinstall ubuntu?20:44
xcyclistI tried that, and it did not work.20:45
naccxcyclist: the problem is you 're no longer using the system pip20:45
naccxcyclist: which means you are not using ubuntu's pip and we can't really help you20:45
naccxcyclist: if you're going to `apt-get install python-pip` don't `pip install pip`20:45
naccxcyclist: which is what it looks like you've done20:46
naccxcyclist: as the pip backtrace should be all in /usr/lib/python2.7 if using the ubuntu pip20:46
dieterdI run xubuntu 16.04 i386 with qemu on an arm-machine. But apt-get upgrade fails because of an ldconfig error.20:47
dieterdWith xubuntu 10.04 till 14.04 all is ok.20:48
xcyclistSorry, I tried again and got some success, but still have many ibstals20:50
xcyclistNot uninstalling wstool at /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages, outside environment /usr20:50
xcyclistis the error I get a lot20:50
xcyclistSo now I am suffering from his:  bash: /home/xenocampanoli/.local/bin/pip: No such file or directory20:52
xcyclistapt-get remove and install of python-pip does not fix it.20:52
bekksxcyclist: Remove that path from your environment variable.20:53
bekksxcyclist: apt-get will never touch files inside your home.20:53
OerHeksall this because you used sudo + pip,..20:54
xcyclistThere is no such environment variable.20:55
bekksxcyclist: there is a variable called PATH.20:56
xcyclistNot on root. nt Not on my user accou20:56
bekksxcyclist: on every account.20:56
xcyclistIt is not anywhere.  Riebooting to see if it goes .  away.  I hope I can come back.20:58
bekksxcyclist: rebooting to not help nor fix issues, usually. This aint Windows.20:58
bekksxcyclist: Instead, please pastebin the output of "env".20:59
xcyclistThanks guys. I am back.  It appears rebootig may have fixed some things.21:04
bekksxcyclist: Which things are fixed by reboot?21:04
xcyclistI do not get that .local path problem now.21:05
xcyclistMy mouse still moves randomely though.21:05
xcyclistAlso I still get:  You are using pip version 8.1.1, however version 9.0.1 is available. You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.21:05
xcyclistShould I do this upgrade?21:05
xcyclistIt says it every time I use pip.21:05
bekksxcyclist: just dont use sudo pip again.21:05
xcyclistI promise I never will as long as the earth turns.21:06
xcyclistMeanwhile, it sounds like you are not against pip upgrade as above, even though the original was installed using apt?21:07
borisetoI've installed the HWE stack and since then I have both 4.4 and 4.8 kernels installed (both update together as well). I thought that only the active one was to remain. Why is that?21:07
blackflowxcyclist: don't do that. pip should be used only inside a virtualenv21:07
bekksboriseto: kernels arent uninstalled automagically.21:07
LuC|FeRwhen i try to apt-get install apache2 i got this : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24283595/21:08
xcyclistI am completely at a loss to know how a sudo apt-get install python-pip can be properly be upgraded by a pip install --upgrade pip from my non-root user.21:08
borisetobekks: so both will always stay side by side? I mean I usually autoremove whatever is extra and want to keep my system clean. It's not that it takes too much space but made me wonder...21:08
bekksLuC|FeR: can you please pastebin that again, running LANG=C sudo apt-get install apache2 ?21:09
xcyclistWhat is virtualenv?21:09
bekksboriseto: Yes. In case you want to purge old kernels, install the bikeshed package and run purge-old-kernels21:09
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blackflowxcyclist: a "chroot2 like path/environment designed by and for python21:09
borisetobekks: got it. It's okay though. Thanks for the info21:09
blackflowxcyclist:  chroot21:09
LuC|FeRbekks : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24283609/21:10
xcyclistOk.  I see it.21:10
bekksLuC|FeR: which Ubuntu is that?21:10
blackflowxcyclist: it's used to isolate python applications/modules/environments from each other21:11
LuC|FeRbekks  4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:11
bekksLuC|FeR: thats a kernel version, not your Ubuntu version.21:11
LuC|FeRhow can i get the ubuntu version21:11
bekksLuC|FeR: lsb_release -a21:11
naccboriseto: yeah, you ahve to remove the 16.04.1 metapackage21:11
LuC|FeRDescription:    Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS21:12
LuC|FeRRelease:        16.0421:12
LuC|FeRCodename:       xenial21:12
naccLuC|FeR: that is rather odd -- can you pastebin `LANG=C sudo apt update` and the exact command you ran?21:12
nacc!info apache2 xenial21:12
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1 (xenial), package size 84 kB, installed size 488 kB21:12
xcyclistOkay, I installed virtualenv21:13
xcyclistI wish I could install a fix for my random mouse wanringde21:13
borisetonacc: but nothing will go wrong if I just leave it (in theory) right? :)21:13
naccboriseto: right, just make sure you use the right kernel (but both will keep updated) as you see fit21:14
xcyclistIt appears to mostly affect me in web applications.21:14
xcyclistMuch less so in the terminal.21:14
LuC|FeRhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24283624/21:14
xcyclistFB has it really bad.21:14
pankaj_i want some help to change the setup of login screen in ubuntu ......with face detection lock system which is i am creating...................................can anyone help me21:14
naccLuC|FeR: `apt policy apache2`21:15
LuC|FeRapt policy apache221:16
LuC|FeRapache2:21:16
LuC|FeR  Installé : (aucun)21:16
LuC|FeR  Candidat : (aucun)21:16
LuC|FeR Table de version :21:16
naccLuC|FeR: use a pastebin please21:16
naccLuC|FeR: was that the whole output?21:16
LuC|FeRnacc just a 3 lines21:16
LuC|FeRyes21:16
bekksI'd change the mirror and run apt update again.21:17
naccLuC|FeR: well, it's in the archive you're using: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/21:17
LuC|FeRso21:17
naccand i see it in the package list from that mirror21:18
naccLuC|FeR: did you manually muck with your package lists by any cahcne?21:18
LuC|FeRnacc what does it mean21:19
naccLuC|FeR: did you edit anything under /var/lib/apt ?21:19
LuC|FeRyes nacc21:19
naccLuC|FeR: sigh21:19
naccLuC|FeR: why?21:19
naccLuC|FeR: and don't do that.21:19
LuC|FeRnacc what i can do to backup it21:19
LuC|FeR:/21:19
naccbekks: can you check my command?: `sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists; sudo apt update; apt policy apache2`21:20
bekksLuC|FeR: what did you edit in detail?21:20
naccbekks: i think that shoudl regen the local lists, right?21:20
bekksnacc: Yes.21:20
naccwe might evan have a faq for this21:20
josephHi all - anyone have any experience using Citrix Receiver, in particular SSL error 4 ?21:21
LuC|FeRnacc still working with me boss ?21:23
tfittsI have a script that sets permissions on a printer port to be writable and then pipes the output from an mqtt client to the printer.  I've followed some directions to get the script to run on startup and it seems like it's running (I had it just write some text to a file) but the mqtt client either never opens or opens and then closes instead of staying open21:24
tfittscan you have a startup script leave something running like that if it isn't setup as a service21:25
naccLuC|FeR: i think you can run the above command; but what did you edit in /var/lib/apt ?21:25
bumbar_which version of kernel ships with 16.10 / 17.04 ?21:27
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LuC|FeRnacc i had a problem in installation of airtime which needs lot of packages : apache2 php5 postgresql and others, and when i tried to follow a tuto o figured that i'm in the wrong directory with the wrong user21:28
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic xenial | tfitts21:28
ubottutfitts: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.71.77 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB21:28
OerHeksbumbar_, see the releasenotes21:28
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic yakkety | tfitts21:28
ubottutfitts: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.8.0.45.57 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB21:28
LuC|FeRnacc i tried to fixe the problem but i had to remove all the packages installed and do it form the beggining21:29
OerHeksbumbar_, but updates may give newer versions21:29
kenrin17.04 is on 4.1021:29
bumbar_i've downloaded 17.04 and can't install wih ryzen cpu21:29
bumbar_just spits out "unexpected irq trap at vector 07", i've updated bios21:30
LuC|FeRnacc so when i was tring to remove everything i got problem in apt update21:30
SATA24Hey. I am somewhat inexperienced with Ubuntu linux, and I was wondering if it was possible to install it, or some version of it, onto a Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3.21:31
LuC|FeRso i try to fixe it with rm /var/lib/apt/lists*21:31
LuC|FeRnacc and after get a new source.list21:32
LuC|FeRnacc that was the whole story :)21:32
kenrinWhat arch is the pi zero 1.3 ?  it needs to be ARM v721:33
SATA24It is, I think.21:34
kenrinI'm pretty sure it uses the same proc as the first one SATA2421:35
kenrinARM cortex,  which doesn't work21:35
SATA24I thought there were ARM releases of Ubuntu?21:36
SATA24Ubuntu-Mate and Snappy Ubuntu core are both listed on the Raspberry Pi website as usable OSes.21:37
SATA24So, it looks like the Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 uses the same chip as the original Raspberry Pi, which is ARMv6 based, not v7.21:39
kenrinyep21:39
naccLuC|FeR: so it's fixed now? or not?21:40
SATA24Is there a branch/fork of Ubuntu out there that supports ARMv6?21:40
LuC|FeRi was waiting for your answer lol21:40
LuC|FeRnacc what i have to do ?!21:41
kenrinNo SATA24,  you'd have to use a debian build21:42
SATA24Great. I have no experience with Debian.21:42
kenrinubuntu is based on debian,  You might not even notice other than desktop21:42
OerHekseven ubuntu-core wants rasppi2 or 3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi21:43
IceBon Ubuntu, when I type ufw command - how will I know if the command are executed from /usr/sbin/ufw or /usr/share/ufw ?21:46
kenrincheck your $path,  it might be a symlink too21:47
MikelevelIceB~ which ufw21:47
IceBthx21:48
fenecohi, my laptop turned off while running a make check, and after that I could not start X anymore, any ideas what I could do? I tried to purge and reinstall x but didn't work21:49
OderusHello everyone. Having issues with my Wifi, can't stay connected with a speed of upload over 20kb/s and cannot connect to a 5g network. I have started a thread in the forums containing all my information. If anyone could take a few minutes and see if theres anything they can think of. Thank you! Here's the forum link: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?71631-Wifi-Blues/page1&s=50fdbb118821:50
xcyclistGotta go.  Thanks for all the help.21:53
minimecfeneco: I would switch to an console in case you have a black screen with <ctrl><alt>F1 , login then 'sudo journalctl -b' to get the logs from the current boot.21:53
fenecominimec: I can boot but I can't start X, even from another terminal21:55
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minimecfeneco: Well... That's why you might want to check the logs... You can also check 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | more', to get the log of the xserver.21:56
fenecohmmm21:57
fenecothat helped minimec21:57
fenecothe logs from journalctl were useful21:57
fenecoseems gnome-shell was missing21:57
fenecoreinstalled and now it's working fine21:57
fenecothank you very much21:57
minimecfeneco: Cool... ;)21:57
kenrinOderus:  Did you try the rtlwifi_new driver yet ?21:59
Oderuskenrin: I don't believe so!22:00
OerHeks!cookie | minimec22:00
ubottuminimec: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!22:00
kenrinhttps://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new22:02
lerneri have 298 flac files in 10 different directories, all named 'track 01' or 'track 37' I have the names of the tracks on a plain text file. Is there any way of recursively renaming the files with the names in the list?22:03
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Oderuskenrin: should i just download that whole thing as a zip and then build or?22:03
kenringit clone it,  then make make install22:04
kenrinmodprobe -v rtl8821ae22:04
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Oderuskenrin : it's giving me fatal: Unable to find remote helper for 'https'22:08
minimeclerner: You could do that with a scipt... Well... would take some time to write it. Like "For each <file> in <folder>, take Xth line in <tracklist> and 'mv <file> <Xth line>. You may ask that question in #bash here on freenode.22:08
kenrinWhat command are you using ?22:10
kenrinIt needs curl-devel.  Which is...  libcurl4-openssl-dev on ubuntu?...22:10
Oderuskenrin: same error once it's installed. command im using is git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/22:14
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kenrintry just "git clone http://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git"22:15
kenrinNot sure why your https is fubared,  works fine for me22:16
kenrinOr just download the zip if that fails ;P22:16
Oderusokay i will do that lol22:16
lerneri also want to configure my machine to get updates and upgrades from a proxy and not directly from the web. How do I that?22:17
kenrinlerner: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto/#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy22:19
kisukewhats the recomended way to set up a vNIC these days? adapting https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/create-virtual-network-adapters-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ jsut gives networking a seizure22:20
antis1hey guys, having trouble getting an old nvidia geforce 6200 graphics card to run with opengl (lubuntu 16.04 lts). system itself runs, but firefox, thunderbird, chromium etc. crash immediately. could anyone help with the nouveau driver?22:21
kenrinuse "ip" package kisuke22:21
kisukekenrin, thanks22:22
kenrinI don't know syntax,  but its something like "ip link add blah blah"22:22
Oderuskenrin: ok i've completed the tasks you mentioned. Now what? rebooot?22:23
kenrinYeah easy way is to reboot.  there is some systemd service you can restart that I have no idea what name it is22:25
Bashing-om!info nvidia-304 xenial22:26
ubottunvidia-304 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.135. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.135-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 20113 kB, installed size 93804 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)22:26
Oderuskenrin: thank you very much, i will reboot now.22:27
Bashing-omantis1: ^^ What driver is intalled ? Show in pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' .22:27
davido_Is there a way to set Unity to allow virtual workspaces to be switched on a per-monitor basis rather than across all monitors simultaneously?22:28
davido_(the poor-man's workaround is to set individual windows to display on all workspaces)22:28
blackflowI spy with my little eye something beginning with X! xorg-server 1.19 in zesty-proposed! yay!22:30
davido_nice.22:30
lernerkenrin, if I edit /etc/environment I dont need to edit bashrc or apt, correct?22:30
antis1bashing-om, wait a sec…22:31
minimecdavido_: Unity can't do that, I think, but the enlightenment windows manager does that by default. Needs a lot of initial configuration, but once your have your config, you get a cool desktop experience.22:31
kenrinIf that doesn't break other things on your system,  sure22:32
lernerhehehe...22:32
kenrinI try to just edit /etc/skel to add .bashrc on user create instead of throwing things globally22:33
antis1bashing-om, cannot put in pastebin right now (fresh install on another machine and no network there right now). basically it says "Nouveau" driver by nvidia and product id is "NV44 [GeForce 6200]" - what i wonder is, it does work in the live-dvd, but not on hdd-install22:36
blackbird1Hi, I have a new graphic card, but the resolution on the screen is large. In display system parameters, the message "unknown display" appears22:37
blackbird1http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/135594Slection709.png22:37
antis1bashing-om: oh, forgot -> version is "a1" 32 bit pci/agp bus on 66MHz frequency22:38
Bashing-omantis1: Nimber of thing s it "might" be . foremost that pops to mind ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' . Do "you" own and are grouped to these files, such that "you" are authorized to access the GUI ?22:39
Bashing-omnumber*22:39
blackbird1some commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24284155/22:41
antis1bashing-om: hm… maybe. should be everything right though -> it is a fresh install from DVD with no customizations taken place.22:41
minimecblackbird1: My guess is, that your screen doesn't give the correct information to your GPU, and therefore the xserver goes to a 'fallback' resolution. You can add the resolution of your monitor manually to the xserver. There is a nice tutorial here... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions22:42
antis1bashing-om: i checked the "install proprietary drivers" on install, maybe if i disable that, it might work… just an idea. will try that as i need to do a reinstally anyway.22:43
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OerHeksmode +r please22:47
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kisukekenrin, wait, IP is only temp.22:51
kisukeI need this to happen every boot >.<22:52
lernerhow do I check if I successfully added the proxy to bashrc?22:53
blackbird1minimec, I Change the cable to DVI, and it works22:53
lernerim downloading an apt update, but I dont know if with or without proxy22:53
blackbird1I dunno why22:54
blackbird1?22:54
minimecblackbird1: Nice idea... ;)22:54
blackbird1It detects the screen22:54
blackbird1You gave me the hint ;)22:54
blackbird1thanks22:54
minimecblackbird1: No problem.22:55
blackbird1lerner, do you have a hosted site ?22:55
lernerno blackbird122:56
marty__i cant think off the top of my head, what is it i type into the terminal to view my network cards?22:58
minimecmarty__: ifconfig and iwconfig for wireless22:58
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marty__thank you22:59
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marty__minimec is that the same as wlan?23:03
minimecmarty__: you mean? With 'iwconfig' you can configure the wifi (wlan) devices... See 'iwconfig --help'23:04
minimecmarty__: But in these days it is better to use the 'network-manager'.23:05
lernerdo changes in ~.bashrc take place on the fly or do I have to source ~/.bashrc for changes to take place?23:06
kenrinkisuke:  Sorry you didn't say permanent,  that is normal editing inside /etc/network/interfaces or using NetworkManager23:07
kenrinlerner: yes,  that or relogon23:08
lernermmmmm....23:09
Bashing-omlerner: .bashrc runs after the GUI is started, will require source'n for a change to take effect .23:09
EriC^^lerner: opening a new terminal should source it for that terminal23:10
lernerif I download an update for ubuntu, but on iftop I see it is downloaded from canonical, then the proxy is not working, as I should see the address of the vpn and not canonical's IP , correct?23:10
antis1bashing-om, are you still there? geforce 6200 works, thanks!! this is awesome and my assumption was right -> disabling the proprietary drivers at installation time does the trick!! Linux is great… :)23:15
Bashing-omantis1: Great ! Linux is designed to be worked with :)23:17
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Bashing-omantis1: Keep in mind that at the end of this year nVidia will drop support for your card : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases .23:26
olalondewhat's a good remote GUI solution for ubuntu these days? tightvncserver?23:26
olalondeclient is on MacOS23:27
TatouI have a remote box with media files .. I want to mount it as a drive. Is this possible?23:27
olalondeTatou: with nfs maybe?23:27
TatouI want to use ssh/sftp/scp.. Just something secure.23:27
antis1that doesn't matter much -> first, this setup is more than 13 years old and struggles even on youtube videos in 360p, which doesn't come surprisingly. so, if it works for one or two more years, it can happily retire :)23:28
kenrinthe fastest?  nomachine23:28
Bashing-omantis1: Give (L)ubuntu a whirl . you may be pleasanrly surprised : " It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware."23:30
Bashing-ompleasantly *23:30
Jordan_UTatou: The easiest to setup IMHO is sshfs, understanding that especially if this is a publicly accessible ip then this machine *will* be attacked by bots and if you have any account with an insecure password your machine *will* be compromised.23:30
TatouJordan_U: The box is already out there on the internet23:30
Jordan_UTatou: Does it already allow remote login via ssh?23:31
TatouJordan_U: It does! :)23:31
Jordan_UTatou: Then you're done for server setup, just use sshfs on the client.23:31
TatouJordan_U: But I cannot install anything on the server23:32
TatouJordan_U: Holy hell! It just worked.. ssh://user@someserver.com:~/path..23:33
lernerim trying to chmod a directory: chmod ugo '/dir ec tory' <?23:33
nacclerner: you didn't tell it to change the mode to anything23:33
nacclerner: ugo and are all identifiers for which permission you want to modify23:34
antis1bashing-om: i use Lubuntu for some years now… in private and professional setups, also maintaining it for friends with different systems -> stable, lightweight and so it got me hooked. Has some "typical debian" "shortcomings", but nothing really to worry about…23:37
AnnoyedQuestion about the software installer in 16.04 LTS.. the old version had an option to show technical software such as text irc clients, sshd and such. Was that removed?23:40
Bashing-omantis1: You do good work ! " "shortcomings",23:40
Bashing-om                but nothing really to worry about…" ->> see the minimal install !23:41
Didact69ugh, I'm still confused about best practices of using iptables vs network manager...23:41
Bashing-om!minimal | antis123:41
ubottuantis1: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:41
blackflowDidact69: there's no vs between the two, apples and oranges. the former is a packet filter the latter a network connection (interface set up) manager23:42
antis1bashing-om: thanx you :)23:42
OerHeksAnnoyed, install synaptic, much more detailed softwarecenter with filter options23:43
Didact69blackflow: yet they both seem to be able to accomplish the same task, such as NAT23:43
Bashing-omantis1: My experience, no more short commings, but there is a learning curve !23:44
blackflowDidact69: not quite, only iptables can do that23:45
antis1ubottu: yeah, usually i put a "normal" setup on usb-stick or use the dvd setup, when not available (like today).23:45
ubottuantis1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:45
antis1ubottu: :)23:45
Didact69so what is connection sharing in  nm-connection-editor ?23:45
blackflowDidact69: it may utilize lower level / iptables functions to establish nat between two networks23:48
AnnoyedThanks, OerHeks.23:49
antis1bashing-om: yes - only a lot of things need to match when you're in the professional world and the fight is still going on…23:49
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antisbye for now and thanks for the help -> sleep is overdue xD23:57

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