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willcookeding dong. Morning all08:01
willcookeHappy Friday08:01
Laneyhey heyyyyyy08:02
allison1happy friday UK morning08:03
allison1willcooke, Laney: what up?08:03
davmor2Morning all08:05
Laneyhey allison1, hey davmor2!08:08
davmor2\o/ update-manager is finally fixed \o/08:09
Laneybeen to York, been to Manchester in the last 1.5 days08:09
Laneymuch train08:09
seb128hey willcooke Laney allison108:09
allison1morning seb :)08:10
seb128Laney, having a work day to rest from all the traveling? ;-)08:10
allison1how's it going?08:10
seb128good!08:10
seb128had a nice evening at tennis yesterday08:10
seb128weather was nice to play and to seat outside with a drink in tshirt still after08:11
seb128you?08:11
Laneyhey seb12808:11
seb128sit*08:11
Laneysounds about right to me08:11
allison1in leuven for a couple of days, had a nice even last night with thai food and gin and tonics08:11
Laneyleuven08:11
Laneysupposed to be a nice place08:11
allison1currently crawling out from under a horrible sickness.... i think the spicy thai food helped08:11
allison1it's very nice.  they have this river going through the middle of it08:12
allison1but they're all like "ya.. it's the river, so what?"08:13
allison1like it just goes down the middle of streets and stuff08:13
allison1i like that attitude08:13
Laney"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no new emails"08:20
Laneylaney    11010  0.0  1.1 1830540 94424 ?       SNsl Mar29   0:22  \_ /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/offlineimap -ubasic -o08:20
seb128that can't be08:20
Laneythis program sucks08:20
Laneyif you suspend while it's running it just hangs there08:21
Laneyso I have this habit of checking if it is running before closing the lid08:21
davmor2Laney: suspend is for losers ;)08:21
Laneyobviously there's a race condition there08:22
Laneydavmor2: /me is a loser :(08:22
LaneyI could probably (rather than contributing a fix to the thing...) add a timeout to the unit08:24
davmor2Laney: No you're not it was just too easy a dig :)  Seems odd that it locks up like that though I wonder if it locks up the same way changing networks too08:24
Laneydavmor2: I guess so08:32
* Laney has added a timeout now so systemd should kill it if it's not finished after 10 minutes08:32
Laneyjust drank too much tea at once and some came out of my nose08:33
allison1i'm really glad we have modern communications systems08:34
allison120 years ago we would have probably had to have gone without knowing that08:34
Laneyit's the little interactions that bond us as a team08:36
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allison1+109:02
happyaronLaney: don't quite understand your upload rejection note...10:46
LaneyWhich bit of it?10:46
LaneyLicense: foo10:47
LaneyComment: bar10:47
LaneyRemove Comment:10:47
happyaronthe comments are attached to Files:10:47
happyaronFiles: something10:47
happyaronCopyright: else10:47
happyaronLicense: foo10:47
happyaronComment: bar10:47
LaneyIt's not a comment, it's the license text10:48
LaneyIt should be part of the license field10:48
happyaronah I get it10:48
Laney:)10:52
ximionhey Laney :)11:15
ximioncan you help some Kubuntu developers with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1663695 ?11:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1663695 in appstream (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 16.04.1 discover empty after fresh install" [Undecided,Fix committed]11:15
ximionit appears like they have nobody to submit package updates to main...11:16
ximionlooks like a previous fix has broken this by accident11:16
Laneyyou broke it????11:17
Laneynaughty ximion11:17
ximionI tested the update with a more recent appstreamQt, unknowingly11:17
ximionso, I might indeed have broken it :P11:18
Laneyanyways11:18
ximionit took quite a while for people to notice ^^11:18
Laneythat bug needs formatting as an SRU11:18
Laneyit's ok in zesty, right?11:18
ximionLaney: yes, the only thing that's affected is Xenil with a specific update level11:19
Laneyok11:19
Laneythere we go11:20
Laneyonce the bug is updated I can sponsor that11:20
ximionokay, meanwhile I know how to do that :P11:21
ximionLaney: I changed the bug description11:25
ximionit's pretty bad that Kubuntu can't fix these things on its own11:25
Laneythey used to have people on all the core teams11:26
Laney:/11:26
ximionthis fix should be really safe, at least :)11:27
ximionI also added a change to make the autopkgtests work, which is nice to have11:27
ximionLaney: I initially thought this was a bug in PackageKit, since I completely forgot that Xenial still has the really bad Qt bindings11:29
ximion(they've become much better and faster just after Xenial's release :P)11:29
ximionbackporting the PackageKit fix which resolves a bug with the same effects as this one is probably less relevant for Xenial though, as that's using aptd...11:31
ximion(at least for the Unity desktop, KDE Plasma is a bit screwed...)11:31
Laneyximion: yak shaving...11:57
Laneysponsor-patch is broken because harvest.ubuntu.com has apparently gone away11:58
ximionpffft....11:59
ximionLaney: will you be at Debconf this year, btw?11:59
Laneyhope so11:59
ximionneat :)11:59
Laneyximion: you too?12:01
ximionLaney: yes, looks like Purism will get me there12:01
ximionI didn't even have to ask ^^12:01
Laneystartup life!12:02
Laneylooks like harvest was taken down in July last year12:02
Laneyguess nobody uses this tool...12:02
ximionLaney: ...except you ^^12:17
ximionI always found harvest a great idea12:18
Laneyonly because sponsor-patch wants to ping it12:18
* Laney is pushing a commit to take that stuff out12:18
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Laneyximion: uploaded, thanks!12:22
ximionLaney: thank you for taking care of this :-)12:41
ximionwill make KDE users very happy :)12:41
* ogra thought KDE users are always happy (they always pretend to :) )12:51
sil2100om26er: hey! I have a question - how is the autopilot project managing its releases? I would like to release a quick-fix packaging change to autopilot and wanted to know where the trunk is12:59
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sil2100om26er: ...or in case I decide to just straight-copy to the archive, I would like to know where I should commit the changes13:00
om26ersil2100: propose to lp:autopilot and lp:autopilot/1.613:17
seb128Laney, infra bits from people who left and where nobody took over :-/13:34
seb128zesty langpacks fails to build because http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/data/ubuntu-l10n/ has no zesty entry13:35
Laneywas before that13:35
Laneyoh, not harvest13:35
Laneywhat is that?13:35
seb128translations stats13:35
seb128but unsure how dpm generated them13:36
Laneyis something looking at it?13:36
seb128eparse?13:36
seb128I'm going to ask dpm anyway to get some details13:36
seb128meanwhile I made zesty uses the stats from xenial and started a new job13:37
Laneyis the lack of zesty in there blocking you?13:37
seb128yes13:37
seb128well "blocking"13:37
seb128I think it's only using it to determine if a locale has enough coverage to be worth having a langpack13:37
seb128so I did some hackish change13:37
seb128let's see how it goes13:37
Laneylooks like /home/dpm/ul10n-stats/ on lillypilly13:38
Laneymaybe?13:39
seb128looks like it, thanks13:41
seb128I wonder if it's in a cron job and for which user13:41
seb128or if that's a manual job13:42
Laneymaybe the same one13:42
Laneycould get IS to sudo to his account and look13:42
Laneyeither cron or the bash history13:42
seb128yeah13:42
seb128Laney, thanks for the hints13:42
Laneysure!13:42
Laneyseems like there's a lot of moving parts in this stuff13:43
willcookeSun is shining here, so decalaring it POETS day.  Have a peacefull weekend all.14:16
willcookealso this is interesting:  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1400282114:16
willcookeo/14:16
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didrocksflexiondotorg: hey! You should fix the tutorials directly, it's less cumbersome than opening tons of bug reports :p14:21
flexiondotorgI thought I'd do both.14:29
flexiondotorgPlanning on submitting PR for the issues.14:29
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seb128victory, working zesty langpacks!16:50
chrisccoulsonhi seb128! :)17:00
seb128hey chrisccoulson, how are you?17:00
chrisccoulsonseb128, not too bad thanks - just getting ready for another 4 day weekend. How are you?17:01
seb128I'm good as well, getting ready for a normal w.e!17:01
seb128enjoy the long one ;-)17:01
chrisccoulsonheh, thanks :)17:02
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Laneynight!17:14
seb128have a good w.e Laney!17:16
seb128& desktop17:16
seb128I uploaded zesty langpacks, good point to call it a week17:16
seb128(some uploads got rejections email but that's for monday)17:16
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