[08:01] <willcooke> ding dong. Morning all
[08:01] <willcooke> Happy Friday
[08:02] <Laney> hey heyyyyyy
[08:03] <allison1> happy friday UK morning
[08:03] <allison1> willcooke, Laney: what up?
[08:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:08] <Laney> hey allison1, hey davmor2!
[08:09] <davmor2> \o/ update-manager is finally fixed \o/
[08:09] <Laney> been to York, been to Manchester in the last 1.5 days
[08:09] <Laney> much train
[08:09] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney allison1
[08:10] <allison1> morning seb :)
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, having a work day to rest from all the traveling? ;-)
[08:10] <allison1> how's it going?
[08:10] <seb128> good!
[08:10] <seb128> had a nice evening at tennis yesterday
[08:11] <seb128> weather was nice to play and to seat outside with a drink in tshirt still after
[08:11] <seb128> you?
[08:11] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:11] <seb128> sit*
[08:11] <Laney> sounds about right to me
[08:11] <allison1> in leuven for a couple of days, had a nice even last night with thai food and gin and tonics
[08:11] <Laney> leuven
[08:11] <Laney> supposed to be a nice place
[08:11] <allison1> currently crawling out from under a horrible sickness.... i think the spicy thai food helped
[08:12] <allison1> it's very nice.  they have this river going through the middle of it
[08:13] <allison1> but they're all like "ya.. it's the river, so what?"
[08:13] <allison1> like it just goes down the middle of streets and stuff
[08:13] <allison1> i like that attitude
[08:20] <Laney> "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no new emails"
[08:20] <Laney> laney    11010  0.0  1.1 1830540 94424 ?       SNsl Mar29   0:22  \_ /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/offlineimap -ubasic -o
[08:20] <seb128> that can't be
[08:20] <Laney> this program sucks
[08:21] <Laney> if you suspend while it's running it just hangs there
[08:21] <Laney> so I have this habit of checking if it is running before closing the lid
[08:21] <davmor2> Laney: suspend is for losers ;)
[08:22] <Laney> obviously there's a race condition there
[08:22] <Laney> davmor2: /me is a loser :(
[08:24] <Laney> I could probably (rather than contributing a fix to the thing...) add a timeout to the unit
[08:24] <davmor2> Laney: No you're not it was just too easy a dig :)  Seems odd that it locks up like that though I wonder if it locks up the same way changing networks too
[08:32] <Laney> davmor2: I guess so
[08:32]  * Laney has added a timeout now so systemd should kill it if it's not finished after 10 minutes
[08:33] <Laney> just drank too much tea at once and some came out of my nose
[08:34] <allison1> i'm really glad we have modern communications systems
[08:34] <allison1> 20 years ago we would have probably had to have gone without knowing that
[08:36] <Laney> it's the little interactions that bond us as a team
[09:02] <allison1> +1
[10:46] <happyaron> Laney: don't quite understand your upload rejection note...
[10:46] <Laney> Which bit of it?
[10:47] <Laney> License: foo
[10:47] <Laney> Comment: bar
[10:47] <Laney> Remove Comment:
[10:47] <happyaron> the comments are attached to Files:
[10:47] <happyaron> Files: something
[10:47] <happyaron> Copyright: else
[10:47] <happyaron> License: foo
[10:47] <happyaron> Comment: bar
[10:48] <Laney> It's not a comment, it's the license text
[10:48] <Laney> It should be part of the license field
[10:48] <happyaron> ah I get it
[10:52] <Laney> :)
[11:15] <ximion> hey Laney :)
[11:15] <ximion> can you help some Kubuntu developers with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1663695 ?
[11:16] <ximion> it appears like they have nobody to submit package updates to main...
[11:16] <ximion> looks like a previous fix has broken this by accident
[11:17] <Laney> you broke it????
[11:17] <Laney> naughty ximion
[11:17] <ximion> I tested the update with a more recent appstreamQt, unknowingly
[11:18] <ximion> so, I might indeed have broken it :P
[11:18] <Laney> anyways
[11:18] <ximion> it took quite a while for people to notice ^^
[11:18] <Laney> that bug needs formatting as an SRU
[11:18] <Laney> it's ok in zesty, right?
[11:19] <ximion> Laney: yes, the only thing that's affected is Xenil with a specific update level
[11:19] <Laney> ok
[11:20] <Laney> there we go
[11:20] <Laney> once the bug is updated I can sponsor that
[11:21] <ximion> okay, meanwhile I know how to do that :P
[11:25] <ximion> Laney: I changed the bug description
[11:25] <ximion> it's pretty bad that Kubuntu can't fix these things on its own
[11:26] <Laney> they used to have people on all the core teams
[11:26] <Laney> :/
[11:27] <ximion> this fix should be really safe, at least :)
[11:27] <ximion> I also added a change to make the autopkgtests work, which is nice to have
[11:29] <ximion> Laney: I initially thought this was a bug in PackageKit, since I completely forgot that Xenial still has the really bad Qt bindings
[11:29] <ximion> (they've become much better and faster just after Xenial's release :P)
[11:31] <ximion> backporting the PackageKit fix which resolves a bug with the same effects as this one is probably less relevant for Xenial though, as that's using aptd...
[11:31] <ximion> (at least for the Unity desktop, KDE Plasma is a bit screwed...)
[11:57] <Laney> ximion: yak shaving...
[11:58] <Laney> sponsor-patch is broken because harvest.ubuntu.com has apparently gone away
[11:59] <ximion> pffft....
[11:59] <ximion> Laney: will you be at Debconf this year, btw?
[11:59] <Laney> hope so
[11:59] <ximion> neat :)
[12:01] <Laney> ximion: you too?
[12:01] <ximion> Laney: yes, looks like Purism will get me there
[12:01] <ximion> I didn't even have to ask ^^
[12:02] <Laney> startup life!
[12:02] <Laney> looks like harvest was taken down in July last year
[12:02] <Laney> guess nobody uses this tool...
[12:17] <ximion> Laney: ...except you ^^
[12:18] <ximion> I always found harvest a great idea
[12:18] <Laney> only because sponsor-patch wants to ping it
[12:18]  * Laney is pushing a commit to take that stuff out
[12:22] <Laney> ximion: uploaded, thanks!
[12:41] <ximion> Laney: thank you for taking care of this :-)
[12:41] <ximion> will make KDE users very happy :)
[12:51]  * ogra thought KDE users are always happy (they always pretend to :) )
[12:59] <sil2100> om26er: hey! I have a question - how is the autopilot project managing its releases? I would like to release a quick-fix packaging change to autopilot and wanted to know where the trunk is
[13:00] <sil2100> om26er: ...or in case I decide to just straight-copy to the archive, I would like to know where I should commit the changes
[13:17] <om26er> sil2100: propose to lp:autopilot and lp:autopilot/1.6
[13:34] <seb128> Laney, infra bits from people who left and where nobody took over :-/
[13:35] <seb128> zesty langpacks fails to build because http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/data/ubuntu-l10n/ has no zesty entry
[13:35] <Laney> was before that
[13:35] <Laney> oh, not harvest
[13:35] <Laney> what is that?
[13:35] <seb128> translations stats
[13:36] <seb128> but unsure how dpm generated them
[13:36] <Laney> is something looking at it?
[13:36] <seb128> eparse?
[13:36] <seb128> I'm going to ask dpm anyway to get some details
[13:37] <seb128> meanwhile I made zesty uses the stats from xenial and started a new job
[13:37] <Laney> is the lack of zesty in there blocking you?
[13:37] <seb128> yes
[13:37] <seb128> well "blocking"
[13:37] <seb128> I think it's only using it to determine if a locale has enough coverage to be worth having a langpack
[13:37] <seb128> so I did some hackish change
[13:37] <seb128> let's see how it goes
[13:38] <Laney> looks like /home/dpm/ul10n-stats/ on lillypilly
[13:39] <Laney> maybe?
[13:41] <seb128> looks like it, thanks
[13:41] <seb128> I wonder if it's in a cron job and for which user
[13:42] <seb128> or if that's a manual job
[13:42] <Laney> maybe the same one
[13:42] <Laney> could get IS to sudo to his account and look
[13:42] <Laney> either cron or the bash history
[13:42] <seb128> yeah
[13:42] <seb128> Laney, thanks for the hints
[13:42] <Laney> sure!
[13:43] <Laney> seems like there's a lot of moving parts in this stuff
[14:16] <willcooke> Sun is shining here, so decalaring it POETS day.  Have a peacefull weekend all.
[14:16] <willcooke> also this is interesting:  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821
[14:16] <willcooke> o/
[14:21] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: hey! You should fix the tutorials directly, it's less cumbersome than opening tons of bug reports :p
[14:29] <flexiondotorg> I thought I'd do both.
[14:29] <flexiondotorg> Planning on submitting PR for the issues.
[16:50] <seb128> victory, working zesty langpacks!
[17:00] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128! :)
[17:00] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson, how are you?
[17:01] <chrisccoulson> seb128, not too bad thanks - just getting ready for another 4 day weekend. How are you?
[17:01] <seb128> I'm good as well, getting ready for a normal w.e!
[17:01] <seb128> enjoy the long one ;-)
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> heh, thanks :)
[17:14] <Laney> night!
[17:16] <seb128> have a good w.e Laney!
[17:16] <seb128> & desktop
[17:16] <seb128> I uploaded zesty langpacks, good point to call it a week
[17:16] <seb128> (some uploads got rejections email but that's for monday)