[05:12] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:00] <directhex> free good linux game alert, limited time offer https://store.codemasters.com/us/product/286559/overlord
[07:36] <ali1234> directhex: what is the catch?
[08:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:14] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka, ow bin ya?
[08:14] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah man good thanks, just playing with my blog, seeing what decent adsense plugins there are our there
[08:15] <davmor2> Azelphur: Anet A8 has heated bed and and bed sensor \o/
[08:15] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's the attitude to stop people on this channel instantly following you blog ;)
[08:16] <davmor2> your blog even :D
[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy World Backup Day! 😃 💻 ✇
[08:50]  * DJones reverses Mars into earth...Bump...Oh, not that sort of world backup...oops
[08:51] <SuperMatt> JamesTait: tell that to gitlab
[08:51] <JamesTait> Ouch.
[08:56] <MooDoo> davmor2: people follow my blog?   nutters
[08:56] <popey> beep beep beep
[08:56] <davmor2> MooDoo: only for the photos
[08:59] <SuperMatt> popey: are you beeping because your motherboard has no ram installed?
[09:03] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: I was doing 5 beeps earlier in the week, my cmos battery failed
[09:03] <SuperMatt> at least that's easily replacable. My machine once died during a bios upgrade. I had to source a new bios chip
[09:04] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: it's a laptop, so had to completely strip it :(
[09:04] <SuperMatt> ouch
[09:04] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: I didn't have any screws left over so I must have done something right and the beeping stopped lol
[09:08] <davmor2> JamesTait: isn't that Elon's job?
[09:08] <SuperMatt> When I replaced my laptop hdd with an ssd, I did actually have a screw left over, but that's because the plastic it screwed into was broken. All held together with duck tape now
[09:10] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: luckily for the ssd replacement it's just two screws one for the cover and one for the tray
[09:10] <SuperMatt> I had to take the keyboard off to get to my hdd
[09:11] <SuperMatt> but it's all working like a dream now
[09:11] <MooDoo> bloomin laptops eh!
[09:11] <JamesTait> davmor2, what's that? Backing up the world?
[09:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: yeah
[09:12] <SuperMatt> At least it's not a macbook, which I would never be able to upgrade
[09:12] <JamesTait> I'm not sure it's worth it at this point. I think we need to restore from an old backup.
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_vt-pXs5Q cheeky one for you
[09:15] <JamesTait> Ooh, cutesy!
[09:21] <popey> SuperMatt: no, vehicles reversing
[09:22] <SuperMatt> oh of course
[09:30]  * Seeker makes a beeping noise when popey walks backwards
[10:05] <MooDoo> Friday silly question time - What if you made a device that attached to your TV that made it physically impossible to receive anything related to the BBC, would this mean you don't have to buy a TV license?  It could even be integral to the TV itself?
[10:05] <Laney> TV license isn't only BBC, so no
[10:06] <MooDoo> what else is it?
[10:06] <Laney> all live broadcast television and iPlayer
[10:07] <MooDoo> really?  like ITV etc?
[10:08] <Laney> yep
[10:08] <MooDoo> doh!
[10:09] <Laney> but I don't think you need to destroy anything to not have to pay it either
[10:09] <MooDoo> hmmmm so what about if you only have netflix?
[10:09] <Laney> just don't watch TV or use iPlayer
[10:09] <Laney> then you wouldn't need it
[10:10] <MooDoo> interesting
[10:12] <MooDoo> netflix + monitor i suppose
[10:13] <Laney> you can use a TV set
[10:13] <Laney> just don't do anything with it that would require a license
[10:14] <MooDoo> yes just read that......
[10:14] <MooDoo> bout time they scrapped it tbh
[10:36] <MooDoo> is it home time yet?
[10:43] <Azelphur> can confirm, don't need TV license so long as you aren't receiving live TV in any way shape or form, or using iPlayer :)
[10:43] <Azelphur> I don't have a license, they sent me threatening letters every month claiming they have started an investigation, are take me to court, are gonna send the goons round etc, been getting them for 4 years now, lol
[10:50] <Laney> Had that in a student house back in the day too
[10:50] <Laney> Don't think anyone ever turned up, which was a shame as I was looking forward to sending them packing
[10:51] <Azelphur> Laney: my thoughts exactly, sometimes I get tempted to call them and ask how many times they are going to "open an investigation" and how many investigations they currently have open against me
[10:51] <Azelphur> it must be in the 100s
[10:51] <Laney> the letters were borderline misleading
[10:51] <Azelphur> imo they are misleading
[10:52] <Azelphur> they changed them recently, with a big-ass heading telling you they are coming on a specific date
[10:52] <Azelphur> then if you read into it, it says "It may be on the 22nd feb, or another day"
[10:52] <Laney> :D
[10:52] <Azelphur> http://www.bbctvlicence.com/201702%20letter.jpg this one lol
[10:54] <Laney> that's funny
[10:54] <Laney> but it's also designed to dupe and indimidate :(
[10:57] <Azelphur> indeed it is, it's sad really, it doesn't help that half the population treats you like you're crazy for not wanting a TV license either
[10:58] <Azelphur> and then there are the people that say you should cooperate with them, like I should be expected to let some random, completely unvetted person search my home with the goal of getting me in trouble for a crime I didn't commit
[11:00] <BigRedS> When I had no telly I co-operated as far as telling them I had no telly. I never got visited
[11:01] <Azelphur> BigRedS: heh, from what I've heard, telling them you don't need a license usually triggers a goon visit
[11:02] <BigRedS> yeah, I've heard that but only from people I've never met :) I don't know anyone who's been visited by them, and I'm relatively rare among my friends in having a tv license
[11:02] <Azelphur> plus, the way I think about it, they are out to prosecute me. Talking to them gets me no benefits, only possible downsides
[11:02] <BigRedS> well, it gets you the benefit of their not sending you letters or maybe sending people round. If you're actually not supposed to have a license I can't see any possible downside of saying that
[11:04] <BigRedS> I'm not at all defending how they operate or even really the laws that enable it, but it does seem that the only people who ever complain about TV licensing are the people who also refuse to tick the "I have no TV" box,
[11:04] <BigRedS> "TV licensing" the organisation, not the concept
[11:30] <MooDoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm5eWLXW6l4 - nice cover
[12:51] <foobarry> scrolls up to check JamesTait mentioned backups today
[12:51] <JamesTait> Bang on, foobarry. ☺
[13:06] <JamesTait> davmor2, here's one to add to your collection: https://youtu.be/CY1WIfPJHqI
[14:27] <diplo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview still relevant peeps ?
[15:29] <DJones> diplo: This might be more relevant, certainly more recent anyway http://askubuntu.com/questions/36671/how-do-i-pre-install-ubuntu-for-someone-oem-install
[15:30] <diplo> ta
[15:31] <DJones> Doesn't look like there's been anything official released/updated for a while
[15:32] <diplo> Nope, thought I'd have a go for our sites, after Wimpys slating of Mint that I've found out recently we use on customers sites
[16:01] <diddledan> I been spam abuse reporting :-p
[16:01] <diddledan> doing my bit :-D
[16:01] <diddledan> I just like trolling the senders
[16:01] <diddledan> trolling as in getting them kicked from their providers
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> what about their freedom of speech?!!? :-P
[18:12] <diddledan> your freedom of speech doesn't trump my freedom to punch you
[18:12] <zmoylan-pi> that nazi found that out very nicely...
[18:13] <daftykins> diddledan: good man! on the kicking of spammers
[18:15] <diddledan> oh, was daftykins a spammer?
[18:16] <diddledan> he disappeared so I'm assuming got booted :-p
[18:18] <zmoylan-pi> shhh, he's back!
[18:18]  * daftykins strolls in all nonchalant
[18:19] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoiu8_K-eZg
[18:19] <daftykins> *WHOOSH*
[18:19] <daftykins> decidedly more whoosh than Star Trek
[18:24] <zmoylan-pi> you can't beat trek for having the whooshiest doors...
[18:25] <daftykins> i dunno, that Futurama clip sounded pretty whooshy
[18:25] <zmoylan-pi> merely copying trek....
[18:25] <diddledan> I think we need a whoosh off
[18:25] <daftykins> but louder!
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder if the helicopter that had jets at end of it's props is still functional... that was supposed to be the loudest whoosh ever...
[18:27] <daftykins> that osprey thing?
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> no no, much longerer ago
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> in the olden times
[18:28] <diddledan> blue thunder?
[18:28] <daftykins> diddledan: well, if you're buying
[18:29] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Rotodyne
[18:29] <diddledan> oh it had to be those nutty brits!
[18:31] <daftykins> hmm funky!
[18:31] <zmoylan-pi> same crazy buggers who made vtol planes 'practical'
[18:36] <diddledan> mm, a crazy burger sounds like a plan
[18:37] <zmoylan-pi> mmmmm, mad cow....
[18:38] <daftykins> ooh that would go down well
[18:38]  * daftykins chuckles at the US fellas that just emailed him instead of Donald Kins yet again
[18:38] <daftykins> also scolded the guy for typing in all caps :P
[18:38] <daftykins> "ALSO HE SAID HE TEXTED YOU SOME BIDS LAST NIGHT FOR HIS ROOF HE SIAD YOU ASKED HIM TO GET.  CAN YOU UPLOAD THOSE TO THE FILE FOR OUR RECORD? THANKS."
[18:39] <diddledan> NO!
[18:39] <daftykins> never!
[18:39] <diddledan> I wonder who Donald Kins is
[18:39] <diddledan> and why they think dafty is similar to donald
[18:40] <diddledan> (/me assumes your real name is dafty! :-p)
[18:40] <daftykins> well funnily enough his gmail is identical to mine but with '8' on the end
[18:40] <diddledan> aah
[18:40] <diddledan> strangedude8@gmail.com?
[18:41] <daftykins> so dkins8@ - apart from kins actually being my real surname ;D
[18:41] <diddledan> wait, kins isn't your real surname?!
[18:41] <zmoylan-pi> respond with a pic of you tactfully posed with a union jack...
[18:41] <diddledan> lol
[18:41] <daftykins> diddledan: :D i gotcha!
[18:41] <daftykins> no no no, the Guernsey flag naturally
[18:41] <diddledan> that'll confuse him
[18:41] <daftykins> last time he apologised but tried to get me to discuss our family tree
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> you pointed out it's more of a shrub than a tree... :-P
[18:42] <diddledan> nobody knows what the Guernsey flag looks like. and if they see it they can't figure-out what it's supposed to be
[18:42] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: that's somewhat of a personal matter
[18:42] <daftykins> it's quite a nice flag, as flags go
[18:43] <zmoylan-pi> not the worst https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Guernsey
[18:43] <diddledan> ooh, so _that's_ where the Knights Templar ended-up?
[18:43]  * daftykins whistles
[18:44] <daftykins> "you ain't seen me, roight?"
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> that's a stabbin...
[18:44] <daftykins> Mr. A Stabbin?
[18:44] <diddledan> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7b/39/91/7b3991fab6715a62ffb28d709b82f4eb.jpg
[18:45] <daftykins> is that Muffy the Carrot Slayer?
[18:45] <diddledan> yup
[18:45] <diddledan> and kendra
[18:45] <diddledan> also a carrot slayer
[18:45] <diddledan> this explains a bit more https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/8b/51/38/8b5138f122d98432242e014cedd8569f.jpg
[18:46] <daftykins> hmm looks like she had a narrow escape with Mr.Pointy to the side of the head already
[18:47] <daftykins> what a surprise, got a reply in caps...
[18:47] <diddledan> how clear were you that caps were unacceptible?
[18:47] <diddledan> able*
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> they're probably from texas... tis a big place and you need to shout a lot :-P
[18:47] <daftykins> it was quite polite
[18:48] <diddledan> aah. that's a n00b mistake.
[18:48] <diddledan> you should have shoved it up his....
[18:48] <diddledan> throat
[18:48] <daftykins> well now it's tempting ;)
[18:49] <daftykins> but nah, best to treat folks like they live next door really
[18:49] <zmoylan-pi> i'm surprised no one has made a gag keyboard for sale that will eltrocute users...
[18:49] <diddledan> are you suggesting that I don't shove things down the asses of my neighbours?!
[18:49] <zmoylan-pi> i wondered what happened to all those pineapples...
[18:49] <diddledan> haha
[18:50] <daftykins> or just a shock collar attachment
[18:50] <diddledan> someone I chat to in a different room had a run-in with a chanop and mention of pineapple insertions
[18:51] <daftykins> Eau my.
[18:51] <zmoylan-pi> one of their 5 a day...
[18:52] <daftykins> i think South Park covered eating things that way
[18:52] <diddledan> they would have
[21:27] <diddledan> so, if A KGB guy working a false flag as an American based out of GCHQ working on behalf of the Israelis pretending to be an Iranian gets caught by the Saudis. who bargains for his release?
[21:27] <zmoylan-pi> and were do they bury them when the mission is over...
[21:28] <diddledan> they don't. they fly him into the sun.
[21:28] <zmoylan-pi> after a nice big mug of polonium tea...
[21:29] <diddledan> tasty
[21:30] <zmoylan-pi> puts ready brek in the shade for a nice glow
[21:30] <diddledan> lol
[21:30] <diddledan> green glow is better than orange
[21:30] <diddledan> I mean, hulk. enough said.
[21:31] <zmoylan-pi> orange is natures warning colour...
[21:42] <diddledan> green means go
[21:42] <diddledan> so it can't be bad
[21:46] <diddledan> home finished frenchy bread ftw
[21:46]  * diddledan got the oven on to bake some
[21:46] <diddledan> just waiting for it to be ready for insertion
[21:49]  * zmoylan-pi had some soda bread as toast for tea