[01:01] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ8kCGEgOsY&feature=youtu.be&t=3288
[01:01] <daftykins> i'm famous!
[01:20] <m0nkey_> lol
[01:20] <m0nkey_> I was just watching Louis
[01:20] <m0nkey_> I'm like, I know that name
[01:20] <daftykins> :D :D
[01:20] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pqc5sug01qxmeca/AABsmP5EW-kiMOgWyMhB-ujha?dl=0
[01:21] <daftykins> i just took another stab at the third one but i don't think i got it right
[01:21] <daftykins> i email'd him how i did it and he just replied earlier with "Thank you SO MUCH!!!"
[07:46] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:03] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:03] <brobostigon> :)
[08:24] <zmoylan-pi> april fools day when the internet is crap for 36 hours or so...
[08:24] <MartijnVdS> it's less bad than usual, because it's a Saturday
[08:25] <zmoylan-pi> hopefully
[08:25] <brobostigon> ]shame my little brothers birthday is today, :), hehe
[08:26] <zmoylan-pi> so many ways to crush their self confidence with april fools jokes every birthday...
[08:27] <brobostigon> yeah. :D
[08:28] <zmoylan-pi> no no, you're not 18 this year. we got a fake birth cert made just after you were born to make you a month older... so you can't drink on your 18th birthday... longest setup to a joke ever \o/
[08:31] <brobostigon> :)
[12:33] <brobostigon> is a clue in cuneiform too difficult for D&D?
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> depends... do they need to read it or recognise it?
[12:37] <brobostigon> both
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> then it may cause a slight problem...
[12:37] <brobostigon> abit od deciphering.
[12:37] <brobostigon> i agree, hence it might be too difficult.
[12:38] <zmoylan-pi> unless it's at i owe you one goat level :-P
[12:38] <brobostigon> :)
[12:39] <brobostigon> one of the clues for the lst game was too simple, missing binary numbers in a sequence of numbers.
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> you could give the clue but have a npc high priced translator wander past if they take more than 15 mins with it?
[12:40] <brobostigon> good thinking batman, :)
[12:41] <zmoylan-pi> what you really want is cleese in armour to beat some symarian into them... :-P
[12:41] <brobostigon> hehe
[12:41] <brobostigon> sumerian?
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't cuniform their written language?
[12:42] <brobostigon> yes.
[12:43] <brobostigon> and the hittites and babylonians and a couple of others.
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> quite a few yes... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script
[12:45] <diddledan> don't you love that the little people (sometimes known as midgets or dwarfs) were mentioned in the bible?
[12:45] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: :)
[12:45] <diddledan> i.e. the kneehites and the shoehighes
[12:45] <diddledan> shoehights*
[12:45] <diddledan> speelign might be wrong**
[12:46] <diddledan> ok, so ebay think I'm a child molester now?
[12:46] <diddledan> they're advertising at me in my email today "polly pocket" and "barbie"
[12:47] <zmoylan-pi> when you were really looking for a bigtrak
[12:47] <diddledan> did you see the ride-on bigtrak?
[12:47] <zmoylan-pi> yes
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> at that point it's a car...
[12:48] <diddledan> http://sciencedemo.org/2014/04/riding-bigtrak/
[12:48] <diddledan> eben from the raspberry pi got to ride it iirc
[12:49] <zmoylan-pi> i saw an original bigtrak in flea market a few months back in dublin
[12:58] <Azelphur> Does anyone know any good software for using the Pi Zero as an IP camera? I want it to be viewable in a web browser, I don't like motion because it uses mjpeg which is low framerate, I'd much prefer something that actually streams video using html5
[14:21] <halt> Hey all, does anyone know the status of hibernation and / or session save & restore  in ubuntu, in the past years with the new versions non of that look like to be working, I just wonder why
[14:23] <halt> I think it's a pretty useful thing, even if it's difficult, but not if this should be distro, or DE specific
[18:22] <daftykins> halt: what version are you on and what's your hardware?
[18:25] <halt> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS / Lenovo Thinkpad x260
[18:26] <daftykins> so what happens when you try to make use of hibernate?
[18:41] <halt> nothing as far as I can see
[18:42] <halt> I enabled it, and choose it for a default action on power button push and lid close
[18:42] <daftykins> halt: that's not very descriptive... does the screen blank? does the system power off? is it solely 'resume' that fails? details, details...
[18:42] <daftykins> always worth ensuring you have a sufficient swap partition size to handle both active memory use and the RAM contents on going down for hibernate, too
[18:43] <halt> I have not dive into the logs, too much but when I say nothing happens I mean nothing, I kind of give up on it for the time being, as it has not been working for ages, and even the "enable" option is hacky does not feel like something supported
[18:48] <halt> btw the default installer create the same amount of swap as mem, and I have not changed that, so the swap is there and available if needed, most of the time I don't use even half of the physical memory
[18:51] <daftykins> nah see 'nothing' is useless, unless qualified with "when i click on hibernate or close the lid, it does not attempt to hibernate"
[18:51] <daftykins> that'd be better.
[18:53] <halt> daftykins:  I do appreciate the help with the the current issue itself, and you are right to say that I'm not being to helpful, I should have ready logs and description, but I don't want to solve it for myself, I would love to see this resolved, and basic at least for the next LTS
[18:54] <halt> I'm suffering with few more bugs around docking and etc, but that is an edge case, but the hibernation and the continue where I left off is two things which not only would like
[18:55] <halt> at least I believe that is the case, so my question is more around the why is it not default, why this functions does not get enough love from the devs
[18:55] <penguin42> halt: I suggest opening a terminal and doing a sudo journalctl -f     and then press the button to hibernate  and see if any interesting messages spew out
[18:57] <halt> sure I will try that later
[18:59] <daftykins> halt: i know what you mean but essentially telling folks to 'fix an entire distro' based off one feature on one machine is a bit bold
[18:59] <daftykins> so many configurations out there after all :)
[19:02] <halt> it can be  enabled make / model based, I know that some driver issues failed to power back on parts of the hw or send notifications about it etc, but if at least some of the big names play nicely then have them a better integration,  the power off dialogue does not even have a space for hibernate, so clearly this is not something what they have in mind, I'm just not sure why
[19:07] <daftykins> is your machine on the latest BIOS?
[19:07] <daftykins> sorry but you signed up to this kind of thing when you chose Linux
[19:12] <halt> don't get me wrong I like to dive into a problem, I really like to, even did few kernel patches for my BT keyboard, there is no trouble there, but that is new hw issue, which got now into the mainline kernel no issue, so moving fw the hibernate and the save session is getting removed, existing function stopped to be working and that is the way back
[19:12] <penguin42> see if the logs say anything first
[19:13] <halt> you mean the git log on the commits where there removed this function ?
[19:15] <penguin42> no I mean the journalctl log to see if you can see the problem before delving into anything specific about drivers etc
[19:16] <daftykins> eh you're claiming they removed it now?
[19:20] <halt> I see, well I don't know I have not looked at the logs, but again I'm not asking for help with specific issue, I'm trying to talk about the issue with the development priorities and directions, and yes I think at the point when the power dialogue does not have a button that can be considered as removed, the fact that it's only available in cli, does suggest that the direction of changes point to the discontinues of the function not to the improvement
[19:21] <daftykins> oh right removed the hibernate function, yeah think i heard that (i don't use desktop *buntu)