[12:40] <yano> https://ircpuzzles.org/blog/2017/04/2017-april-fools-day-challenge-live/
[12:40] <jenni> [ 2017 April Fool's Day Challenge Is Now LIVE | #ircpuzzles ] - https://bit.ly/2nVVPZC
[15:22] <thafreak> I'm actually not just idle today!
[15:22] <yano> yay
[15:22] <thafreak> Sorry, my lame attempt at april fools joke :) 
[15:22] <thafreak> I'll likely be very idle today 
[15:24] <thafreak> So nothing happens in this channel anymore?
[15:59] <Unit193> No, it's Ohio, are you expecting different?  I'd like more too, but I shouldn't be talking to myself.  I'm not even sure most here use Ubuntu in some form or another.
[16:00] <Unit193> thafreak: Nice to see you alive again!
[16:01] <thafreak> :)
[16:02] <thafreak> I use it on servers sometimes...no one here usually discusses that though, it's all desktop this and that :)
[16:04] <Unit193> I use Xubuntu as a desktop (or what used to be Xubuntu), and either Debian testing or Ubuntu for server(s).
[16:04] <thafreak> lol, oposite here...debian on the desktops :) Working on moving to stretch now
[16:06] <Unit193> Well I have that as a fallback plan, when Ubuntu finally does enough privacy violations that I can no longer stand.  I kind of turned Xubuntu into Debian based, because who likes starting from scratch? :P  (Also Xfce is butt ugly by default.)
[16:07] <thafreak> I'm using xubuntu as the basis of a "dev desktop vm" idea I'm working on
[16:07] <thafreak> wait, i mean xfce4 on stretch :)
[16:08] <Unit193> Ah, of course I'm basing mine on unstable.
[16:08] <thafreak> wow, on real hardware?
[16:09] <Unit193> One of the other guys tried to base it on Jessie with Xfce 4.12, but that was harder to maintain.  Unstable is pretty stable for me at least, another Debian guy (cyberanger, here sometimes) swears by it too.  It's much easier if you avoid KDE and GNOME as DEs.
[16:10] <Unit193> (By 'turned Xubuntu into a Debian based system', I mean ISO.  Though I did successfully upgrade from Ubuntu to Debian unstable in VM, with enough forcing.)
[16:11] <thafreak> Ah, yeah, I don't try that anymore...I managed an upgrade on a server a few times, but things don't quite come out as nice in the desktop when trying to upgrade
[16:12] <thafreak> it's like there's magic stuff that only happens when the installer runs, and I'm too lazy to figure out the differences...I'll just backup re-install and restore
[16:12] <thafreak> Just that that ends up taking me forever...been in this process for a few weeks now
[16:12] <thafreak> Wanted to clean things up BEFORE I back up
[16:13] <thafreak> Also, switch from mainly using dropbox+encfs (which is apparently horrible idea) to syncthing+gocrpytfs
[16:16] <Unit193> Ah, with the help of dpkg and apt it doesn't go horribly.  If you mean upgrade from the same base to the same base, I do that all the time because re-installs are so much effort for little gain.  Right, yeah.  Encfs really isn't the best for that.  Interesting you mention that!  I've recently started using that as well, even patched it in Ubuntu so it doesn't FTBFS and contacted the Debian 
[16:16] <Unit193> maintainer.
[16:19] <thafreak> you patched encfs?
[16:19] <thafreak> HAve you looked at gocryptfs?
[16:20] <thafreak> It's similar, just re-written in go, and avoids the problem encfs has
[16:20] <Unit193> I did not patch encfs, never used it.  I meant to say I was looking at gocryptfs and: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gocryptfs/1.2-2ubuntu1
[16:20] <jenni> [ 1.2-2ubuntu1 : gocryptfs package : Ubuntu ] - https://bit.ly/2nWAxLG
[16:20] <thafreak> AH
[16:21] <thafreak> I'm using the slightly older version in stretch on my desktop and built from source on a raspberry pi :)
[16:22] <thafreak> Ok, kids are pestering me, they want to go home...
[16:22] <thafreak> Back to being idle for me, good talking to you Unit193 
[16:22] <Unit193> Heh, my version of "built from source" == updated and changed the packaging.  Have a good one, and yes it was a nice chat. :)
[16:24] <Unit193> Mine can do something yours can't: unit193@Omega:~%  gocryptfs --version                  .:12:23:57 on 17-04-01:.
[16:24] <Unit193> gocryptfs 1.2.1; go-fuse 0.0~git20161210.0.6c2b7d8-2; 2017-03-07 go1.7.4
[20:19] <yano> .tw https://twitter.com/ircpuzzles/status/848212537787248641
[20:19] <jenni> And we're off #AprilFools 2017! First Clue: IyMjIyMjTlNRMjAxN0ZnbmVnLVBlbGNnYkFyamY= Good luck! | By: @ircpuzzles, Date: Sat Apr 01 16:36:42 +0000 2017, RT#: 0, Favs: 0