[00:02] <db> 2 times pass than I am here.
[00:03] <kgb> db__: ok it survived the hardest start... fine, all is dandy then
[00:03] <kgb> the graphics issue.. when you have time and that's that :)
[00:04] <kgb> all is well, be excellent!
[00:05] <j117> Ubuntu 16.04 has vim compiled for Python3 but not 2. That breaks YouCompleteMe's auto-completion. Is there a way to get it to work with both versions of Python or just Python 2?
[00:07] <db__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24290973/
[00:09] <kgb> db__: sure it's fine, that double login is 99% looking for the one X and then the other nvidia X which is active... so no biggie, everything is working
[00:09] <mach20x> running Kernel -71 still freezes when plugging in the wifi adapter/dongle
[00:10] <db__> kgb, what should I google to read some about it
[00:10] <mach20x> only -62 seems to work, all other kernel iterations fail in the same manner
[00:11] <kgb> db__: here are mine, proprietary... that window is from the Xfce Ubuntu shell so a little different: http://i.imgur.com/9XyEJ6m.png
[00:11] <kgb> but don't change anything, who knows if some config files are locked by previous user - for whatever reason (we *did* fix everything)
[00:12] <mach20x> A good source to get a handle on the issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1666421 but I don't see a fix as of yet
[00:12] <flay18> Algum Brasileiro aqui...
[00:13] <Guest64383> hola
[00:13] <db__> I see
[00:13] <mach20x> I can assure ubottu that it has not fixed it for my machine using the edimax dongle :P
[00:13] <kgb> db__: ah, why not.. whenever..:) bt we (rly) did do everything, so i'm not sure if there IS a better way (blacklisting manually could be a disaster - and it's depreciated anyway)
[00:14] <db__> HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.
[00:14] <kgb> my secreenshot? :-0
[00:14] <db__> yes
[00:14] <kgb> sec
[00:15] <kgb> this one? https://preview.ibb.co/ekpjyv/9XyEJ6m.png
[00:16] <db__> I saw it now
[00:16] <db__> all looks fine there :)
[00:17] <kgb> here's a not fuzzy one, not sure what happened: https://imghost.io/images/2017/04/01/9XyEJ6m.png
[00:17] <kgb> cool, you can check if yours is showing "proprietary" and not Nouveau (that 3rd option)
[00:18] <j117> Is anyone using Vim with auto-completion (YouCompleteMe) on Ubuntu 16.x? I haven't been able to get it working on any Ubuntu 16.04 computers yet.
[00:18] <mikeliss> Anybody able to help me debug a service script? I'm trying to start it up, but whenever I do it fails to log anything and it doesn't fork the background processes it is supposed to. I've tried running it with sh -x and that doesn't show any errors. When I run sudo service celeryd start, it says that it started fine, but it doesn't work.
[00:18] <kgb> db__: alright, i gotta GTHO it's like past 2am (lolz)
[00:18] <mikeliss> Yesterday it was working fine, but after I ran sudo service celeryd kill, it won't start any more.
[00:20] <db__> me too
[00:20] <db__> kgb
[00:20] <db__> thank you so much
[00:20] <db__> where do come from anyway
[00:20] <kgb> don't mention it :) tc
[00:20] <kgb> oh
[00:20] <db__> lol
[00:20] <db__> Best one
[00:21] <db__> good night
[00:21] <kgb> i did try sending a pm, for the record. :) gn
[00:46]  * Mihajlovic jumps
[00:50] <atomi> does anyone know why the source repo doesn't contain the later 4.10.x branches for example http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10.8/SOURCES
[00:51] <atomi> according to that file 4.10.8 should be at git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-test/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/mainline-crack sha 3fdae700a3615f6fd657b3326a61572464a78707
[00:51] <atomi> 4.10.4+ are all missing
[00:52] <atomi> looks like the repo was abondoned 2 weeks ago :/
[01:01] <Geren> is it ok running ubuntu on windows 10's powershell bash mode ?
[01:02] <atomi> gross
[01:03] <hggdh> Geren: yes
[01:03] <kode54> not the best option
[01:03] <kode54> and you can't run daemons, all processes die with the shell session
[01:03] <wastrel> how do you even get windows 10 can you download an iso
[01:09] <x132> zzzz
[01:13] <AssociateX> For some reason logging in at the main DM, whatever it's name is, takes a long time. I type my password and it just hangs there for like 15 or 20 seconds. Same with once I'm longed in, I open konsole and log in for sudo foo and it takes a long time for it to authenticate. Why is that?
[01:14] <AssociateX> Same with once I'm logged* in
[01:18] <hitman1> Hi
[01:18] <hitman1> PC running very very slow
[01:18] <hitman1> simple command like ls, opening man pages is taking 10-15 seconds to execute.
[01:19] <wastrel> why do you think
[01:19] <hggdh> hitman1: run uptime and give us the output
[01:19] <hitman1> don't know
[01:20] <hitman1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24291252/
[01:21] <wastrel> something is making a load average
[01:22] <hggdh>  yep
[01:22] <hggdh> q
[01:22] <hitman1> what is it ?
[01:22] <wastrel> did you open system monitor or top
[01:23] <wastrel> maybe a process is using up cpu or disk io
[01:23] <hitman1> no
[01:23] <hggdh> hitman1: how many cores in this system?
[01:23] <hitman1> 2
[01:24] <hggdh> hitman1: something is eating up your cores
[01:24] <vkku[m]> Can I migrate from Windows to Ubuntu without losing my data(without backup, no temporary hard disk)
[01:24] <hitman1> what thing
[01:24] <hitman1> chrome is using more - what I see
[01:25] <hitman1> what is the threshold for a process for memory it can use ?
[01:26] <hggdh> hitman1: I do not understand your question
[01:26] <hitman1> Like chrome is using 9% of mem
[01:26] <hggdh> hitman1: that's not much
[01:27] <hitman1> I want to know what is the max value it can use where beyond that value system freezes?
[01:28] <hggdh> hitman1: pretty much the whole available memory. it all depends on what else is running in the system.
[01:28] <hitman1> Now system is running normally.
[01:29] <hggdh> hitman1: for comparison, my Chrome is right now using ~1.7G of main memory
[01:29] <hitman1> But I only have 4G of memory as total and I think you have more.
[01:29] <texla> While trying to install Ubuntu dukto I got the following error:E:type "deb' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/source.list.d/dukto.list E:cache->open () failed..both package manager and updates are unuseable
[01:29] <hitman1> And I am using pentium dual core processor.
[01:30] <Mihajlovic> so old machine
[01:30] <hggdh> hitman1: again: something was running and eating up CPU. What, we have no idea
[01:30] <hitman1> And I want to know how to know what slowed down my system ?
[01:30] <hitman1> If it happens again in future
[01:31] <hggdh> hitman1: since it is now apparent it was CPU starvation, when it happens again run htop and find out what is using CPU
[01:31] <Mihajlovic> you can check which process holds CPU or MEMORY by 'top' command.
[01:31] <hitman1> ok
[01:31] <hitman1> Thanks hggdh
[01:34] <tripelb> h3ath3r
[01:36] <tripelb> 14.04 wont showme one of the partitions on my drive. other thingsw, like a fedora disk does. I thinkthat windows does too. what up?  how to show it in terminal to find the problem?
[01:37] <kenrin> 14.04 won't show what?
[01:37] <kenrin> In what,  disk druid,  gnome disks,  gparted ?
[01:39] <tripelb> Nautilus will not show sda7. which would be called 60g drive even tho is is 55.9 --- it is /home to this 14.04. could that be why?
[01:40] <kenrin> nautilus doesn't show drives that are already mounted probably
[01:40] <kenrin> I thought you meant it didn't show up under df -h or something
[01:40] <tripelb> it shows it under lsblk
[01:40] <tripelb> Iforgot df-h
[01:42] <tripelb> tried it. df -h output is confusing. lsblk is clear.
[01:42] <tripelb> tho it doesnt show used and available
[01:43] <krytarik> tripelb: Btw, if you just spilled your password into the channel, make sure to change it.
[01:43] <tripelb> I did not show my password.
[01:44] <kenrin> if its h3ath3r you did
[01:44] <tripelb> those are all bash commands
[01:44] <tripelb> oh yes. I thought I was in console. Thanks, I will.
[01:45] <tripelb> what do I do /msg nickserve help password didntwork
[01:46] <kenrin> do a /msg nickserv help
[01:46] <kenrin> should be the set cmd
[01:46] <wedgie> and don't use your girlfriend/daughter/mother's name as a password :P
[01:47] <kenrin> could be *her* name
[01:47] <compdoc> wot!
[01:47] <tripelb>  Syntax: SETPASS <account> <key> <newpass>  --- what is key? account is tripleb
[01:47] <wastrel> Quuox6ah
[01:47] <wedgie> even worse
[01:47] <tripelb> How about my boyfriend?
[01:47] <wastrel> key is old pass
[01:47] <tripelb> I am awoman
[01:47] <tripelb> oh ok
[01:47] <krytarik> tripelb: "/msg NickServ set password <newpass>"
[01:48] <texla>  While trying to install Ubuntu dukto I got the following error:E:type "deb' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/source.list.d/dukto.list E:cache->open () failed..both package manager and updates are unuseable
[01:49] <tripelb> arg. this failed  /msg nickserv setpass tripelb h3ath3r newpass
[01:49] <kenrin> Do what krytarik said
[01:49] <tripelb> ok I got setpass from /msg nickserv help
[01:50] <wastrel>  /wi 19
[01:51] <tripelb> done. my password is now newpass
[01:51] <kenrin> texla: you probably just need to remove the quotes from the .list file
[01:51] <tripelb>   /joke
[01:51] <plgos> is there a way to view pdf files in terminal
[01:52] <kenrin> On line 1 that is
[01:53] <tripelb> krytarik, thank you so much
[01:53] <texla> kenrin, I removed "deb' still the same
[01:53] <kenrin> paste your dukto.list
[01:53] <krytarik> tripelb: You are welcome.
[01:55] <tripelb> i want abashcommand for .. what is the sda for the partition I am innow?
[01:56] <tripelb> it is the / amirite?
[01:57] <wedgie> tripelb: ''pwd'' will tell you where you are... or am I misunderstanding your question?
[01:57] <tripelb> I am in the process I am gonna install fedora and before I erase a partition Iam quadchecking that it is the correct one and everything is backed up. Because my mind can slip up. This keeps me from error.
[01:58] <texla> kenrin, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/colomboem/xUbuntu_15.04/ /'
[01:58] <wedgie> tripelb: you can look to see what is mounted by looking in /etc/fstab
[01:59] <kenrin> just put a deb http://blahblahblah
[01:59] <kenrin> no "
[01:59] <wedgie> and you can find what devices map to each UUID you see there by doing: ''ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid''
[02:00] <j4f-shredder_> Hey:-)
[02:00] <j4f-shredder_> My ethernet is not working
[02:01] <tripelb> wedgie, ls /etc/fstab  just echoed /etc/fstab  [02:01] <j4f-shredder_> I have two connections unmanaged and one that never gets to connect
[02:01] <j4f-shredder_> It stays in connecting state
[02:01] <wedgie> tripelb: try ''cat /etc/fstab''
[02:01] <kenrin> I'm not sure that last lone / should be there either,  if it still doesn't work take that out
[02:02] <j4f-shredder_> The internet connection is fine, in fact I have another ununtu 16.10 notebook that work with this same ethernet cable
[02:03] <tripelb> OK new question wedgie  can I rename my partitions so I I will know them as Pam and Jenny and never getconfused
[02:03] <Jordan_U> j4f-shredder_: What version of Ubuntu are you using? What do you mean by "two connections unmanaged and one that stays in connecting state"? Where are you seeing these connections?
[02:03] <j4f-shredder_> 16.10
[02:04] <j4f-shredder_> On both machines
[02:04] <wedgie> tripelb: not that i'm aware of.
[02:04] <j4f-shredder_> If I go to the connection icon and I put edit connections I can see 3 "wired" connections
[02:05] <j4f-shredder_> One has the ON switch and the other two anything
[02:05] <Jordan_U> tripelb: You can add a filesystem label that will show up in the output of "blkid". The device name will still be /dev/sdXY but you'll be able to more easily find the device name. Also, OS installers will usually list a filesystem's label next to the partition containing that filesystem.
[02:06] <j4f-shredder_> I had a router when it was working fine, then my router burnt and I had to connect directly the isp provider modem to my machine using the ethernet cable
[02:06] <j4f-shredder_> Since then I cannot make internet work
[02:07] <wedgie> j4f-shredder_: does the modem provide DHCP?
[02:07] <j4f-shredder_> Its a desktop pc
[02:07] <j4f-shredder_> Yes
[02:07] <j4f-shredder_> Dhcp
[02:07] <j4f-shredder_> It seems that somehow it saved the router ethernet connection
[02:07] <tripelb> Jordan_U,  wedgie fedora tells you less when you are installing. basically I need to know the sdax already and the nautilus-thing they have doesnt tell me. and I had forgotten lsblk.. prolly tired. BUT fedora recognizes my wifi hardware so I dont have to be on ethernet when I install it.
[02:08] <tripelb> i installed ubuntu and had no wifi. :(
[02:08] <j4f-shredder_> I plugged it Modem--》Router-》Pc and now is Modem-》Pc
[02:08] <t5u> hi, I am trying to troubleshoot one of my friends HP laptop, Ubuntu 14.4 LTS, seems to crash irresponsively, screen freeze and kernel seems dead, syslog shows nothing, last entry regarding network scan then reboot log, is it a hardware issue ?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> j4f-shredder_: It's likely that your modem will only connect to one ethernet card (by MAC address) or that it's expecting PPPoE, which requires more configuration on the PC side, including entering your DSL username and password.
[02:10] <j4f-shredder_> And why my laptop with also ubuntu 16.10 accepted it in one go?
[02:10] <j4f-shredder_> Without any config
[02:10] <texla> kenrin, Removed quotes from both line ends package manager and update now working Thanks for the help
[02:11] <j4f-shredder_> I plug the ethernet cable and it works
[02:11] <kenrin> Np,  watch those typos~
[02:11] <Jordan_U> j4f-shredder_: It might not use PPPoE but might still only allow connecting to one MAC address.
[02:11] <j4f-shredder_> Ohh, I will get a new router on monday
[02:12] <j4f-shredder_> Perhaps this is not worth it
[02:12] <kenrin> You usually have to reset a modem when connecting a different device
[02:12] <Jordan_U> j4f-shredder_: You might use one of your working machines to share internet to the others. It's not hard to setup.
[02:12] <kenrin> Unless it is also a router
[02:12] <j4f-shredder_> I already have that, but no wifi card on my desktop
[02:13] <j4f-shredder_> I created a hotspot bash script
[02:15] <j4f-shredder> sudo nmcli device wifi hotspot con-name my-hotspot ssid my-hotspot band bg password Bcnim$
[02:15] <j4f-shredder_> Thay is my sctopy
[02:15] <j4f-shredder_> Script
[02:28] <jackson54321> This linux switch is tough!! 3 weeks in and I am totally flustered lol
[02:56] <Gallowglass> Hi. I've got a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04.2 on a system I just cobbled together. Install went fine and wirelessly. When rebooted, it had no network interfaces. (ethernet is connected to mobo port, mobo is nvidia) Wireless shows in iwconfig but no interface in /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:04] <wastrel> generally you would  lspci | grep -i net
[03:04] <tatertots> Gallowglass: are you using the computer right now?
[03:06] <Gallowglass> tatertots: I have it booted. I'm irc'ed from my laptop
[03:07] <Guy1524> hey guys, seemingly out of nowhere on a ubuntu 16.04 on an imac 2010, the unity launcher doesn't show opened applications and ALT+TAB doesn't either.  (when I open an application, it works, but doesn't show as open on the launcher)  loging out and in again fixes it until the next reboot
[03:07] <Guy1524> any ideas
[03:10] <wastrel> did you apt-get update
[03:12] <Gallowglass> wastrel: If you're asking me, then the answer is that I can't - both wireless and wired connections have no interfaces associated with them.
[03:13] <tatertots> Gallowglass: did the computer have internet connectivity while booted to livecd/liveusb? yes or no
[03:14] <Gallowglass> tatertots: It's an Ubuntu Server install, so I never really took it to LiveCD mode, but the installer went through connecting to the wireless successfully and downloaded updates.
[03:14] <PipeItToDevNull> Gallowglass, You need to configure with WPA_Supplicant
[03:15] <Gallowglass> PipeItToDevNull: Doesn't come standard, looked up the package and it and many dependencies are missing... lotta downloading via another computer. I guess I *could* try all that, but it will be a lot of trouble to do it.
[03:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Ah, sec
[03:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Does the command nmcli work
[03:17] <tatertots> not on a ubuntu "server" edition install...nmcli isn't there by default
[03:17] <Gallowglass> Pipe: 'nmcli' is not installed.
[03:17] <PipeItToDevNull> Guess you dont have any wifi support, it is a server after all
[03:17] <tatertots> Gallowglass: is the computer "hardwired" right now with a ethernet cable? yes or no
[03:19] <Gallowglass> tatertots: Yes, it's hard-wired to a network with connection. That port is integrated to the motherboard, and the mobo is nvidia. I'm afraid the device isn't detected because a proprietary driver is needed.
[03:21] <tatertots> Gallowglass: you better boot livecd/liveusb, where according to your own testimony, there'd be at least a probability of having connectivity.  In your current situation you have no connectivity at all wired/wireless or otherwise and can do absolutely nothing
[03:22] <wastrel> Gallowglass: lspci | grep -i net
[03:23] <iputra> window
[03:23] <implite> wastrel: does that list the devices?
[03:23] <Gallowglass> tatertots: Okay. While I'm at it, this machine is intended to be a server, but would installing desktop Ubuntu be so different?
[03:24] <Gallowglass> wastrel: details coming
[03:24] <wastrel> it lists whatever pci devices the kernel sees
[03:24] <Gallowglass> Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[03:24] <iputra> clear
[03:24] <Gallowglass> Netoer controller: Ralink corp. RT2800 802.11n PCI
[03:25] <Gallowglass> *network controller
[03:25] <tatertots> Gallowglass: installation process would be similar but end result of the installation and the packages that would be resident not so similar
[03:25] <energizer> is it normally a good idea to wait a bit after a new release comes out before installing
[03:26] <bazhang> energizer, did you mean LTS or non
[03:26] <energizer> 17.04
[03:26] <bazhang> thats nine month support cycle for non LTS energizer
[03:27] <Gallowglass> tatertots: In order to avoid crazy amounts of manual downloading, maybe installing the Desktop is the best idea. I think I'll have to put that disk in anyways, since I didn't see a live environment on the Server disk menu
[03:27] <tatertots> Gallowglass: understand that in your current situation you have do nothing, you couldn't download anything or install anything from the internet, so there's little value in you staring it the screen hoping to do something in the current state of this system
[03:27] <wastrel> that seems to be a really old card
[03:27] <wastrel> and it works with the install image
[03:28] <tatertots> Gallowglass: yes the desktop edition
[03:28] <wastrel> i don't know why it woudln't work with 16.04
[03:28] <bazhang> energizer, were it to be a LTS, then waiting on a point release perhaps
[03:28] <bazhang> 16.04.1 for example
[03:29] <energizer> i see
[03:29] <Gallowglass> tatertots: Yes, off to grab my Desktop disc, as no live environment for server.
[03:30] <Didact69> Hi everybody!!!
[03:31] <implite> hi
[03:34] <Gallowglass> tatertots: I'm burning up a new copy, and I'll install that instead. Any major recommendations/actions to take while in LiveCD mode to avoid this situation?
[03:38] <tatertots> Gallowglass: hardwire the computer with ethernet cable if possible, you'll have an opportunity to establish network connectivity during installation and or while in livecd/liveusb environment.
[03:40] <Gallowglass> tatertots: Okay. Got that already. I'll drop out for a while now, and come back if I have more problems.
[03:40] <underd0g1> :quit
[03:41] <Gallowglass> Thanks, tatertots, wastrel and all
[03:46] <Probando> hola
[03:46] <Probando> consulta estoy probando ubuntu mate
[03:46] <Probando> para pasarme de ubuntu 16.04 lts
[03:46] <hggdh> !es | Probando
[03:46] <Probando> alguien me puede decir si tiene compatibilidad completa con los archivos DWG
[03:47] <Probando> help¿?
[03:47] <hggdh> Probando: we use English here
[03:48] <Probando> alguien me puede ayudar
[03:48] <Probando> como cambio de canal
[03:48] <Probando> a español¿?
[03:48] <hggdh> Probando: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:51] <Probando> ubuntu mate Has compatibility with DWG files????
[03:51] <Probando> Can somebody help me
[03:52] <Probando> hola
[03:52] <Probando> hello????
[03:53] <Probando> Can someone help me how can you tell if ubuntu mate has file compatibility DWG
[03:53] <PipeItToDevNull> This is IRC. It is slow. Calm down.
[03:54] <Probando> Where I can have help to know if it suits me to install the operating system I am Ubuntu user 16.04 LTS
[04:00] <Probando> Where I can have help to know if it suits me to install the operating system I am Ubuntu user 16.04 LTS
[04:07] <Guy1524> can I re-ask my question, i asked it an hour ago
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Guy1524: Yes. I would say 10 minutes is more than enough time (unless you're asking for the 50th time).
[04:24] <Basketball> is there a way to save a file to the google drive folder from a program
[04:26] <PipeItToDevNull> Is this a trick question?
[04:28] <PipeItToDevNull> From a brief read up it is a location like any other, just save a file there and it will be synced up
[04:30] <Basketball> PipeItToDevNull, in gnome i cannot figure out how to save to the network drive
[04:31] <PipeItToDevNull> How are you attempting to do it
[04:32] <Basketball> PipeItToDevNull, it doesnt show up in the save locatiojn
[04:39] <Guy1524> seemingly out of nowhere on a ubuntu 16.04 on an imac 2010, the unity launcher doesn't show opened applications and ALT+TAB doesn't either.  (when I open an application, it works, but doesn't show as open on the launcher)  loging out and in again fixes it until the next reboot
[04:49] <Guest1121> k
[04:51] <cicisagen> does anyone have any recommendations on a free VPN service?
[04:51] <cicisagen> i don't have a credit/debit card to pay for one right now
[04:52] <implite> hidemyass
[05:04] <surveyor> Torguard. They don't keep logs or throttle torrents.
[05:04] <Jack235> Hey I have a question I was hoping for help with, super newbie here. I installed hexchat from my user account and everytime I open it gives me two error messages explaining that I do not have write access for logs.. It sucks because nothing will save.
[05:05] <Jack235> So I uninstalled and installed as root
[05:05] <Jack235> now those messages appear but everytime I run Hexchat it says that I am stupid to run as root
[05:05] <Jack235> I cant win
[05:08] <cicisagen> don't run hexchat as root
[05:08] <Ben64> don't run pretty much anything as root
[05:08] <cicisagen> definitely anything that connects to the internet.
[05:09] <cicisagen> You need to change the write permissions on the log file.
[05:10] <azizLIGHT> how come 'Additional Drivers' dialog box on 14.04 lists ppa gpu drivers as open source
[05:11] <Jack235> cicisagen How do I change the write permissions on the log file
[05:14] <Ben64> Jack235: what is the exact error, and what did you come here for originally
[05:35] <jfmdn> how can I limit the syslog size?
[05:37] <baizon> jfmdn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184949/how-do-i-limit-the-size-of-my-syslog
[05:39] <Kiicki> What Proprietary driver does Ubuntu actually use for the Catalyst? The Ubuntu fglrx or just Linux fglrx? Since there's a difference at least on the AMD site. The Linux version has only 1 driver where the Ubuntu one lists like 8 different ones. Even has a 44 page tutorial on how to install it -.-
[05:40] <Kiicki> Ubuntu: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064&rev=15.9
[05:40] <Kiicki> Linux: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Linux%20x86_64&rev=15.9
[05:40] <Ben64> Kiicki: its the same driver
[05:40] <Ben64> but you should use the one that ubuntu provides, if you get it from amd.com you're on your own
[05:41] <Kiicki> What do you mean by same? clearly something more is added on the Ubuntu version
[05:42] <baizon> Kiicki: linux = .tar.gz(.zip), ubuntu = .deb
[05:43] <Kiicki> but why does the Ubuntu link show 8 drivers and the Linux one only 1?
[05:43] <baizon> Kiicki: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging
[05:45] <jfmdn> baizon: it doesn't answer the question though
[05:45] <Kiicki> Actually I see that I only need 4 of them. I will try them and see how they compare to the standard fglrx that comes with Ubuntu
[05:45] <Ben64> don't do it
[05:45] <Kiicki> maybe they are the same
[05:45] <Kiicki> maybe not
[05:45] <Ben64> use ubuntu's
[05:46] <Kiicki> It is Ubuntu version
[05:46] <Ben64> use the version that comes with ubuntu
[05:46] <Kiicki> just not the standard one that is listed in drivers
[05:46] <baizon> Kiicki: i guess we will see you in a few min with a question "my linux isnt booting" :>
[05:46] <Ben64> then you're on your own, good luck!
[05:46] <baizon> jfmdn: so what is your question then?
[05:46] <Kiicki> Ty
[05:47] <jfmdn> how can I limit the syslog size?
[05:48] <Kiicki> baizon It's not booting, help
[05:53] <energizer> How can i make a subfolder of a drive into my home folder
[05:54] <Ben64> energizer: not sure what you mean?
[05:54] <madprops> hi
[05:54] <madprops> is there anything i'd miss if i install the beta2 instead of waiting for the final release?
[05:54] <energizer> Ben64 i have a drive mounted, and i want a particular folder on it to be my new home folder
[05:55] <Ben64> madprops: it will upgrade to final
[05:55] <Ben64> energizer: you'd have to set that up in fstab. what filesystem is it?
[05:56] <baizon> madprops: less buggy
[05:56] <baizon> jfmdn: use logrotate
[05:57] <energizer> ben64 you mean like ext4?
[05:57] <Ben64> yes
[05:57] <energizer> ext4
[05:58] <Ben64> cool, why a subfolder though instead of the whole partition?
[05:59] <energizer> i suppose i could reconsider that
[05:59] <energizer> what are the downsides
[06:00] <Ben64> it'd be in two places at once, it would rely on the parent being mounted before home could mount
[06:00] <energizer> oic id have to have two separate lines in fstab, first mount UUID to /media/drive then mount /media/drive to /home ?
[06:02] <Ben64> well you said subdirectory so it'd be /media/drive/home to /home
[06:02] <energizer> right
[06:07] <alkisg> energizer: since you mention /media, I'm guessing that drive is removable? Do you plan to have this drive always connected when your pc is booted, or sometimes it'll be removed?
[06:08] <energizer> alkisg: not removable, just an example
[06:08] <alkisg> OK
[06:08] <energizer> where was i supposed to moutn nonremovable
[06:09] <alkisg> Nonremovable drives are usually specified in /etc/fstab, and are used for things like the whole /home, or the whole /srv etc. But sure you can use /media too if you like, it's just that usually removable media goes in /media.
[06:09] <energizer> mhmm
[06:12] <energizer> rebooting, wish me luck...
[06:14] <hashtagsandro_>  wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[06:27] <anddam> that's pro stuff
[06:27] <anddam> I'd need someone to reproduce the non-working of magnifier feature in 16.04 Unity
[06:28] <anddam> specifically System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Universal Access   has   "Turn zoom on or off", "Zoom in" and "Zoom out" already set but using their shortcuts won't have any effect
[06:30] <anddam> further more, installing compizconfig-settings-manager and running it displays the Enhanced Zoom Desktop component as present, but its zoom in and zoom out feature have no shortcuts. Setting those allows the use of magnifier
[06:31] <anddam> odd thing is that setting the same shortcuts via System Settings now inhibits the feature again, i.e. System Settings is hiding Compiz magnifier by trapping the shortcuts and then doing nothing
[06:35] <quard> Is there a way to make Ubiquity installer not complain about the /boot folder being part of a rootfs on an encrypted partition?
[06:49] <anddam> ah I think this is the issue, System Settings > Universal Access in unity lacks the "zoom" section at https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/figures/users-system-settings-universal-access.png
[07:04] <energizer> not perfect...
[07:04] <energizer> looks like some configuration stuff is missing
[07:05] <energizer> im missing themes and launcher icons
[07:05] <frib> I apparently have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/871630/cant-send-audio-to-amazon-echo-via-bluetooth (initally thought it was this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1608820 but realized that it only happens with the echo). But the strange thing is that it only started happening as of yesterday morning. Before that the echo didn't cause this problem. Can anyone recommend a
[07:05] <frib> solution? thanks
[07:27] <blackflow> frib: have you had any updates yesterday morning?
[07:28] <phi_> hi
[07:28] <phi_> can someone help me make the printer to work
[07:28] <phi_> I can't make it work on ubuntu
[07:30] <frib> blackflow, like from where?
[07:30] <blackflow> frib: to software
[07:30] <blackflow> frib: you say it stopped working as of yesterday morning. what happened yesterday morning? did you have any updates?
[07:31] <frib> blackflow, oh actually i think that's irrelevant because I reproduced this problem on both 16.04.1 and 15.04 live usbs
[07:31] <frib> it seems, oddly enough, to be an issue with the device itself
[07:31] <blackflow> but it worked fine until..... yesterday morning?
[07:31] <frib> 2 days ago i did a 16.04.02 reinstall
[07:31] <frib> blackflow, "fine" let say ya haha, it didn't NOT work
[07:31] <phi_> cups server say the job is completed but the printer does not print anything
[07:32] <frib> i always have to go to bluetoothctl and do connect MAC etc..
[07:32] <blackflow> frib: well you're giving different information now, than in your original question, and I totally lost you.
[07:32] <frib> because the unity-control-center "on/off" button is always greyed out
[07:32] <frib> blackflow, I didn't realize I Was
[07:32] <frib> I linked to a post saying that the echo pairs but won't play audio
[07:32] <frib> that remains the case
[07:33] <blackflow> phi_: checked the printer that it's ready to print? no jam? paper in? maybe there's a button on it you have to press to start printing received jobs?
[07:33] <frib> blackflow, I added the part about having to use bluetoothctl because I thought the fact that it seems to be a strange way of having to connect the device might be relevant
[07:34] <frib> but I guess blueman could substitute unity-control-center as well, so maybe not
[07:34] <frib> long story short, as of yesterday morning the echo pairs but only plays audio on *first* connect
[07:34] <blackflow> frib: well, I quote you: "But the strange thing is that it only started happening as of yesterday morning. Before that the echo didn't cause this problem. Can anyone recommend a solution?"
[07:35] <frib> yes correct
[07:35] <blackflow> and I was referring to that part. If you had any changes "as of yesterday morning" :)
[07:35] <frib> no as of yesterday morning nothing has changed, though I've tried several things
[07:35] <blackflow> maybe Echo updated?
[07:36] <frib> blackflow, I wasn't aware that Echo did updates
[07:36] <frib> but i did try to "hard reset" the device
[07:36] <frib> (to no avail)
[07:37] <blackflow> frib: "Your Alexa device receives software updates automatically over Wi-Fi. These updates usually improve performance and add new Alexa features."  From here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/help/id=201602210
[07:37] <blackflow> is that the device?
[07:38] <frib> blackflow, yes, the echo, the tall one
[07:39] <blackflow> because, if you didn't update software on Ubuntu, and it just stopped working one morning, logic dictates the device itself then changed.
[07:39] <frib> blackflow, yea it would seem, although the slightest thing can change without one even knowing it
[07:39] <blackflow> if you _did_ do updates on that morning and right before it stopped working (you can check via /var/log/apt/history.log), you have more info on possible causes.
[07:40] <frib> just as echo updated unknowingly, i might have done a apt-get upgrade that broke something
[07:40] <frib> blackflow, as I said the problem persists in previous ubuntu live usbs
[07:40] <frib> so i pretty much rule that out
[07:40] <frib> also, it doesn't happen with other bluetooth headphones that ihave
[07:40] <blackflow> so that's even more cause to think Echo changed
[07:41] <frib> so I pretty much blame the device at this point
[07:41] <blackflow> and even more :)
[07:41] <frib> but i was thrown off by that 2nd link I gave which sounds exactly like what is happening with my echo
[07:41] <frib> (i.e. all audio / youtube playback is frozen upon A2DP connect)
[07:42] <frib> the echo software version i am currently on is 5264
[07:43] <frib> which is the latest
[07:43] <blackflow> frib: btw, your headphones work just fine?
[07:43] <frib> blackflow, correct
[07:44] <blackflow> frib: is there a history for you to check when did 5264 apply?
[07:45] <frib> blackflow, i don't see anything in the app
[07:47] <blackflow> frib: well, not sure what you can do then, other than ask Amazon for support.
[07:47] <frib> blackflow, yeah it seems that way thanks
[07:48] <frib> 5264 	2017-03-10
[07:49] <frib> was released 20 days ago, seems strange
[07:49] <frib> i will try another hard reset and not connect it to wifi ;)
[07:49] <blackflow> worth a shot.
[07:50] <frib> idk if it will let me connect without giving it wifi, these things tend to be very apple-esque if you know what i mean
[07:51] <blackflow> yeah
[07:51] <blackflow> Sell it and get a Mycroft :)
[07:52] <frib> blackflow, i actually have a bose bt that I always used but I forgot the power cord at my house 8 hours away T_T
[07:53] <blackflow> bummer :)
[08:14] <Freman> ok, I'm back at it, I have my switch configured with it's vlans, I have the modem on an untagged vlan 10, the ubuntu box on a tagged vlan 10 (along with 11 and 1)
[08:15] <Freman> configured with eth0.10 and eth0.11, both have appropriate ips for the networks they're meant to be able to see
[08:15] <Freman> I can't reach anything :(
[08:15] <Freman> I can see incomming tagged packets on eth0 with tcpdump but even if I say ping -I eth0.10 192.168.1.1 (modem) I don't see that packet outgoing on eth0
[08:17] <Freman> nothing strange in dmesg
[08:28] <FMan1988> maybe you can find help on ##networking
[08:30] <Freman> even tried bringing it up as macvlan
[08:30] <Freman> I've got this working at home on gentoo... was wondering if there was something ubuntuey I wasn't aware of
[08:38] <laceylaney> HI Guys. Slow wifi and low signal strength in xubuntu 16.04. How can I speed up connection and strengthen signal ??
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> laceylaney  in a terminal, type   iwlist
[08:40] <laceylaney> ok I typed that. What next ??
[08:40] <MonkeyDust> laceylaney  maybe you need to change the frequency
[08:41] <laceylaney> ok so how do I do that ??
[08:41] <laceylaney> Total noob with wifi lol
[08:43] <blackflow> laceylaney: have you eliminated possible hardware or physical causes?
[08:44] <laceylaney> Yes I have because I'm on a macbook and wireless works fine in osx
[08:44] <laceylaney> I boot an external drive to access osx
[08:45] <blackflow> laceylaney: well, there's not much you can do about it. one option, default power settings are for some reason lower than they should be, so perhaps try something like this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/328418/how-to-increase-power-of-wifi-adapter
[08:46] <blackflow> laceylaney: but do mind the warnings there!
[08:46] <Lteev> anyone any good with graphics drivers?
[08:46] <ducasse> !ask | Lteev
[08:47] <Lteev> what is support for AMD R9 390 like on Ubuntu?
[08:47] <anddam> this is very misterious, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Activating_preinstalled_tools refers to "using the Gnome Assistive Technology Preferences panel, Found in the System Menu under Preference"
[08:47] <anddam> is that Universal Access in System Settings?
[08:47] <laceylaney> Thank you for the link and info. Taking a look now :-)
[08:48] <laceylaney> what would you recommend for setting the power at ??
[08:50] <laceylaney> my wifi is listed as wlp3s0 & not wlan0. Take it I can just replace wlan0 with wlp3s0 ??
[08:51] <Lteev> anyone?
[08:51] <theoceaniscool> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91085/udev-renaming-my-network-interface
[08:55] <Lteev> I just don't want to waste the reads/writes on my SSD if the performance is going to be garbage under linux due to poor drivers.
[08:56] <blackflow> ~.c
[08:56] <blackflow> oops
[08:57] <blackflow> laceylaney: well I'm looking up but can't find how to check current setting or maximum
[08:58] <laceylaney> I can see that my current setting is 200 but don't know how high I should go.
[09:00] <blackflow> laceylaney: 200? that doesn't sound right. can you pastebin?
[09:00] <laceylaney> yea give me a sec.
[09:00] <Lteev> AMD R9 390 *nix driver performance versus Windows? Anyone?
[09:01] <Lteev> or whatever the best driver package is... I don't really know what I am doing >.>
[09:02] <laceylaney> sudo iwconfig wlp3s0 give this >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292424/
[09:03] <laceylaney> see the way it says Tx-Power=200
[09:04] <blackflow> laceylaney: well, you can try set txpower to "fixed" (without quotes), that should disable power management, and then see if that Link Quality has risen. Set back to "auto" to re-enable power control.
[09:05] <laceylaney> ok thanks. Will try that now.
[09:05] <blackflow> laceylaney: "iwconfig wlp3s0 txpower fixed"
[09:07] <laceylaney> will I need to restart or anything for changes to take affect or show ??
[09:07] <blackflow> laceylaney: no, but you could try to reconnect via the network manager
[09:07] <laceylaney> ok :-)
[09:08] <lteev> AMD R9 390 drivers, anyone got any info on how decent they are?
[09:09] <ducasse> !patience | lteev
[09:09] <laceylaney> Signal in netow
[09:09] <laceylaney> signal in network manager seems to have stayed the same.
[09:09] <blackflow> laceylaney: check with iwconfig
[09:10] <somethis> Hello good people ...
[09:10] <somethis> After Instlling Ubuntu 16.10. my usb wlan stick has gone dead ... http://imgur.com/a/shzgh
[09:10] <somethis> any suggestions on how to start fixing this issue?
[09:11] <laceylaney> everything appears to be the same as before.
[09:12] <blackflow> laceylaney: then I'm sorry, I don't know what else can be tried. there aren't any other "knobs" to configure with those things.
[09:12] <laceylaney> Not a problem. Thank you very much for your help anyway :-) Much appreciated indeed
[09:24] <qswz> I'm gettting mad with the scroll speed that can't be fucking increased :(
[09:25] <somethis> Any suggestions how to start with the silly wlan stick issue? :-) ...
[09:25] <qswz> xinput set-prop 10 275 1 1 1
[09:25] <qswz> it's 1 1 1 by default
[09:25] <qswz> the lower the faster, but 0.5 wouldn't work
[09:26] <qswz> seriously, I've searched the whole internet, there are no solution, how can it be possible? except shitty things like imwheel
[09:26] <ducasse> !language | qswz
[09:26] <qswz> yea sorry
[09:26] <qswz> but seriously, it gets on my nerves
[09:27] <qswz> chrome scrolls 3 lines at a time, it's tiring
[09:27] <qswz> FF idem
[09:27] <angel-code> Hi. How do I reinstall my ubuntu with nothing imported from the current one... I have so many things corrupted
[09:27] <angel-code> having some crash reports
[09:29] <HankMoody> I would just reinstall the root partition. Provided you're done with trying to fix all of the crash related stuff.
[09:29] <HankMoody> Your home partition will remain the same with everything in there.
[09:29] <angel-swe> I have no data to save.
[09:30] <angel-swe> All I need to be careful is my dual boot windows
[09:30] <qswz> I can't believe none of you has problems with slow scroll speed?
[09:30] <qswz> have*
[09:30] <HankMoody> Then just pop in a Ubuntu flash drive/DVD and run through the installer again angel-swe
[09:30] <HankMoody> qswz: scrolling where? just in pages/documents, etc.?
[09:30] <angel-swe> Anyone here can read the crash report
[09:30] <angel-swe> and tell me if its serious or not
[09:30] <qswz> HankMoody: anywhere, on web browsers
[09:30] <qswz> on file managers
[09:30] <qswz> on terminal
[09:31] <qswz> I want it faster
[09:31] <HankMoody> qswz: Mine could be faster, but it's not too egregious.
[09:31] <qswz> yea we probably have similar speeds
[09:31] <qswz> but I come from windows where I could set it faster, it relieves the hand
[09:32] <HankMoody> angel-swe: If you're of the mind to reinstall because of whatever has gone FUBAR by all means. Won't take that long to reinstall, especially if you're not transferring config files, etc. over.
[09:33] <kgb> qswz: everything flies in a lighter shell like Xfce or LXDE
[09:33] <angel-swe> HankMoody, I need to download the ubuntu and install it as a bootable usb right?
[09:33] <HankMoody> qswz: Yeah, I've used Linux or Mac solely for over a decade now. But I do know you can adjust your scroll speed in xfce. This is my first time in Unity for more than a few days.
[09:33] <HankMoody> angel-swe: bootable USB or CD/DVD
[09:33] <kgb> unity seriously does my head in :)
[09:34] <qswz> I'm on lxde
[09:34] <kgb> interesting
[09:34] <qswz> lubuntu 16.10, what do you mean kgb?
[09:34] <angel-swe> HankMoody, Do I need anything else to not make any hartm to my dual windows?
[09:34] <HankMoody> kgb: Yeah, not to mention a resource hungry mofo. I haven't had Compiz in a long time though, so it's nice to see the glitter for once.
[09:34] <kgb> qswz: i can't swear in here, to explain. =)
[09:34] <angel-swe> kgb hi!
[09:35] <kgb> angel-swe: hi, welcome back to the desert of real (someone used it yesterday, don't blame me)
[09:35] <angel-swe> lol
[09:35] <HankMoody> angel-swe: Just don't format over your Doze partition, and make sure you point to the Doze partition in your bootloader (grub comes by default).
[09:36] <angel-swe> how do I print my current parttitions so we make sure which is ubuntu
[09:36] <angel-swe> here
[09:36] <angel-swe> than I install
[09:36] <angel-swe> any terminal command
[09:37] <HankMoody> It should be rather obvious when you're looking at the partitions in the installer. Linux generally likes to do at least 3: root, home, swap. Some people like to do boot and.... Damn, I can't remember the last one...
[09:38] <angel-swe> Well now I need to find the bootable ubuntu usb or download it
[09:39] <HankMoody> Depends, do you have one sitting around, and if so what version is on it?
[09:39] <kgb> angel-swe: the interesting thing is that the installer *will* display different options depending on what it 'thinks' it finds on the disk - that's where the difficulties come in SOMETIMES (but, usually not)
[09:40] <qswz> ok thanks this guy http://askubuntu.com/a/304653/81121
[09:49] <angell-swe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WjxsHGUn/irccloudcapture224112953.jpg
[09:49] <angell-swe> I guess I found one
[09:49] <angell-swe> Just A couple of monts ol
[09:50] <angell-swe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JkOjDnc9/irccloudcapture1419258370.jpg
[09:50] <angel-swe> can you please see the url if they look like ubuntu bootable usb files
[09:51] <bekks> 7Why dont you just use an official bootable medium?
[09:51] <angel-swe> this is official from web site
[09:51] <angel-swe> where else it could be
[09:52] <bekks> I dont think Ubuntu uses irccloud.
[09:52] <HankMoody> angel-swe: The last one looks like it... But don't you already have a CD/DVD or flash drive sitting around your house?
[09:52] <HankMoody> They don't, but he uploaded the picture to it bekks
[09:52] <angel-swe> HankMoody, this is the flash drive
[09:53] <bekks> angel-swe: If you already copied them to your flash drive, we cannot see wether you made that flash drive bootable or not.
[09:53] <angel-swe> lets try
[09:53] <angel-swe> what should I set my biot to boot via USB
[09:54] <kgb> angel-swe: if your guy installer won't look something like this http://i.imgur.com/834SZe8.png (this is the first install, don't know what reinstall looks like), it's not a good idea to do anything thorough it manually, just btw.
[09:54] <angel-swe> does it  call it USB or Flash drive in Bios
[09:54] <bekks> angel-swe: We dont know your exact BIOS settings either.
[09:54] <kgb> that would be the GUI installer
[09:54] <angel-swe> kgb HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.
[09:55] <angel-swe> bekks, it can't have 908059856 names.. must be some common a couple of names
[09:55] <Dreaman> download iso use rufus
[09:55] <bekks> angel-swe: So look it up in the manual of your bios.
[09:55] <HankMoody> angel-swe: Gotcha. Yeah if you snagged it from the Ubuntu site it's the official one. What OS are you going to be writing the flashdrive on?
[09:55] <Dreaman> bios boot farst usb stick
[09:56] <angel-swe> bekks, your sounds tense..
[09:56] <angel-swe> more than help
[09:56] <bekks> angel-swe: We really dont know how the manufacturer of your bios called that menu entry :)
[09:57] <kgb> angel-swe: this one? http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/how-to-dual-boot-windows-10-and-ubuntu-linux-500635-4.jpg (as long as the installer can present its automatic options that it recognizes the windows bootloader AND it can find it, things should be fine - HOPEFULLY) :)
[09:57] <angel-swe> HankMoody,  do you mean what is the other OS? dual?
[09:57] <angel-swe> its windows
[09:57] <kgb> bt i don't know about reinstall, i wipe the ubuntu partitions manually as the space had been pre-set on my HDD
[09:58] <angel-swe> kgb can I run that bootable flash disk like that in ubuntu as your screenshot?
[09:58] <HankMoody> What OS are you going to be using to write to your flash drive?
[09:59] <zeus123> hello everyone, can anyone help me regarding squid3 basic authentication from internet, which is behind NAT.
[09:59] <angel-swe> HankMoody,  I am lost in your question now. Do I even need an OS installed in Flash Drive to install the ubuntu it contains?
[10:00] <kgb> angel-swe: another thing to consider is that maybe 16.10 didn't agree with your machine - parhaps it's better to stay with the long term releases LTE ubuntu like 16.04.02 (02 maintenance release atm)
[10:00] <angel-swe> kgb yes it is 16.10
[10:00] <bekks> angel-swe: you need to transfer an Ubuntu install image to your flash drive, so you can boot from it and install Ubuntu from it.
[10:00] <angel-swe> kgb can't I update & upgrade it after install?
[10:01] <angel-swe> can EFI be that OS?
[10:01] <kgb> sorry cant type LTS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS it doesn't update as often but its lifecycle lasts until the next lts
[10:01] <bekks> No, EFI is not an OS.
[10:01] <HankMoody> If you're wanting to reinstall Ubuntu, then yes. The Ubuntu download is going to need to be written to the flash drive with a bootable flag on it so your computer's BIOS, that way it can recognize it to being the install.
[10:02] <kgb> 16.10 is the 'inbetween' and things *can* go wrong with it (special cases, again)
[10:02] <angel-swe> HankMoody, I guess I created that Flash disk with the way they show on the official site
[10:02] <angel-swe> I will reboot and check
[10:02] <HankMoody> Okay, if that's what you did, then I'm sure it's done correctly and set to be bootable.
[10:03] <angel-swe> kgb, You recommend me to download lastest version from site and install it instead 16.10?
[10:03] <HankMoody> It's the difference in just writing the Ubuntu download to a CD/DVD and writing it so the computer knows that it's bootable.
[10:03] <angel-swe> HankMoody,  I have a couple of USB I am just not sure if its that one or not. I will check
[10:04] <ducasse> angel-swe: if you had hardware problems with 16.10, you might try plain 16.04 instead of 16.04.2, as .2 contains the 16.10 kernel and x stack
[10:05] <HankMoody> Something akin to writing an album of mp3s to a CD as regular files, or writing it so they can be played in a CD player - Both admittedly are old ass analogies, but it still fits.
[10:05] <angel-swe> I had no problem until my dump action
[10:05] <angel-swe> kgb ?
[10:06] <kgb> angel-swe: here's how their web site has it https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:06] <angel-swe> kgb, that will take some hours
[10:06] <angel-swe> can
[10:07] <angel-swe> can't I realy update & upgrade my current 16.10 to it?
[10:07] <kgb> it's a 1.4 GB download are you on dial-up? :))
[10:08] <angel-swe> oh I toguht it was 14 sorry
[10:08] <angel-swe> started now
[10:08] <HankMoody> kgb: Those are dirty Russian lies, dial-up doesn't even exist anymore :P
[10:08] <kgb> neither does the kgb, yet here i am
[10:08] <kgb> =)
[10:09] <angel-swe> kgb can you help me to convert that file to bootable flash disk after the download
[10:09] <kgb> oh
[10:09] <kgb> angel-swe: is your current flash drive bootable?
[10:09] <angel-swe> kgb, i guess
[10:09] <kgb> and was it an original image? :-0
[10:10] <angel-swe> kgb,  yes
[10:10] <HankMoody> Eh, the FSB and the SVR are the KGB just new acronyms to try and make those pussies in Ukraine fall to sleep while you guys quietly annexed part of their country :P.
[10:10] <angel-swe> I have 16.10 in the flash disk (I believe)
[10:10] <kgb> right ok, so just run it.. skip the whole downloading procedure - just make sure that there are automatic options in the GUI installer for what you're trying to do - otherwise your HDD has some funky setup
[10:10] <kgb> (and doing things manually is a pain. :))
[10:11] <angel-swe> kgb, no its official files from ubuntu site
[10:11] <angel-swe> let me try
[10:11] <angel-swe> brb
[10:11] <Felishia> how to display latex from the terminal D: is there any supercool fancy terminal that can do dat?
[10:11] <kgb> cool
[10:12] <kgb> HankMoody: heheh not russian, bt yeah it's a tragedy what had happened in the easter block (and the world is still feeling it)
[10:13] <angel-swe> Its boot via Tails
[10:13] <angel-swe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/voTopC3m/irccloudcapture2007596853.jpg
[10:13] <kgb> oh, GOD
[10:14] <angel-swe> What!
[10:14] <kgb> :) angel-swe you're on a roll for user support these two days xD
[10:15] <kgb> angel-swe: when you boot your machine, which bootloader shows up, grub2??
[10:15] <kgb> regularly i mean, not the usb boot
[10:15] <angel-swe> No Tails came up
[10:16] <angel-swe> I mean via usb
[10:16] <angel-swe> Tails coming  up soon as I boot with that Flash drive
[10:16] <kgb> i mean not via usb, do you get a menu to load Ubuntu and then Windows somewhere under it?
[10:17] <kgb> like regularly, daily, when you had used it.. you turn it on and what happens? :D
[10:17] <angel-swe> Ah
[10:18] <angel-swe> Let me show u
[10:18] <kgb> trying to figure out how linux had been installed previously
[10:18] <kgb> reinstall will highly depend on it xD
[10:20] <angel-swe> Grub2
[10:20] <kgb> ok sweet! phew
[10:20] <kgb> \o/
[10:20] <kgb> if you can, grab that 16.04.02 image please.. you'll be able to use quassel and everything with it......
[10:20] <kgb> *if u have time, idk.
[10:21] <angel-swe> And not with My current one?
[10:21] <kgb> that one you can easily shred :)))
[10:22] <kgb> BURN it with fire
[10:22] <kgb> but maybe better to hold on to the usb and just use a new one for this install, you know =)
[10:23] <angel-swe> Ok lets downloa
[10:24] <angel-swe> d
[10:24] <kgb> angel-swe: after the download, this can work for you? https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[10:26] <Freman> ok, so I finally have it working. Now question, how do I rename it so it's not eth0.10 but rather "lanvlan" - under gentoo this is part of the config but I can't figure out how to do it on ubuntu
[10:26] <angel-swe> Thx
[10:26] <FMan1988> lan v. lan - only tonight on pay-per-view
[10:27] <Freman> if I manually configure it with the iproute2 package I can call it whatever I want
[10:27] <kgb> angel-swe: if that doesn't work, i've had no trouble with: https://unetbootin.github.io/ (although there are a million such programs)
[10:27] <Freman> FMan1988 meh, modemvlan better? :D
[10:27] <FMan1988> not really :)
[10:28] <kgb> angel-swe: and come back if the GUI Ubuntu instaler doesn't give you the option which your are *sure* will reinstall alongside of windows (don't run it otherwise, it'll change partitions and God knows what else. :))
[10:29] <Freman> spoze I could just up eth0 then post-up-script it
[10:32] <angel-swe> Downloading
[10:36] <introom> where to get the debug symbols for the kernels here ?
[10:40] <kgb> um? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Systemtap
[10:41] <introom> kgb: that doesn't cover the kernel mainline build.
[10:41] <kgb> here? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/
[10:48] <qswz> I'm the guy who wants to increase scroll speed, has to restart, tested imwheel and it's bad (doesn't work in console, have weird behaviors sometimes)
[10:48] <qswz> if someone know how to do, it would be fantastic
[10:50] <qswz> tried with libinput too, not great, it disabled touchpad tap and  the events thing didn't change scrolling speed
[10:53] <LOLALS> whats crack
[11:05] <da7niel> hey, does anyone know how to rename a file in terminal? I've looked it up and found people recommending "mv file1.c file2.c" but that hasn't worked for me.
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> da7niel  yes, that's the way to do it ... what happens when you try
[11:07] <da7niel> mv: cannot stat 'filename.c': No such file or directory
[11:07] <SnipeDOG> Hello. Can anyone recommend a good (paid) remote support company that could help me with my Ubuntu Computer? I have a problem with my mdadm RAID array and I am afraid of data loss.
[11:07] <PipeItToDevNull> Then you are typing the name or pth incorrecty da7niel
[11:07] <tomreyn> da7niel: then you're either in the wrong directory or the file is named differently
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> da7niel  so the file does not exist?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> da7niel  does the file show, when you type    ls
[11:08] <da7niel> tomreyn: you're right, silly mistake
[11:08] <da7niel> thanks guys
[11:08] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: i bet canonical could recommend someone.
[11:09] <SnipeDOG> I have had a look on their website but it seems its only aiming for commercial customers.
[11:09] <SnipeDOG> Is anyone here who knows his way with mdadm? :-)
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> SnipeDOG  start in   #ubuntu-server
[11:10] <SnipeDOG> I run a normal Ubuntu Distro - not server.
[11:10] <tomreyn> i bet several folks here have a good bit of mdadm experience.
[11:10] <geez[m]> SnipeDOG: I'm not an expert but I have been using it for 7 years in my own servers (you just barely ever have to touch it, which is why I'm not an expert). What do you need?
[11:10] <SnipeDOG> I am an Ubuntu Newbie. I usually get along googling the way - but in this case I am afraid to lose my data.
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> SnipeDOG  tip: backup first
[11:11] <geez[m]> Always backup. Everything. All the time.
[11:11] <geez[m]> No excuses
[11:12] <tomreyn> and once that's done, run some mdadm experiments
[11:12] <SnipeDOG> geez - thanks. Here is what has happened: I run a RAID5 array to store movies for my PLEX server. Recently one of the hard drives was marked as faulty. I added a spare. While it was re-shaping there was a power cut (classic!). Not the array is inactive and it says Raid Level: raid0 but further down it said "New Level: Raid5". I am completely lost and not sure what to do.
[11:12] <SnipeDOG> geez - thats why I run a RAID5.
[11:13] <SnipeDOG> The data is way too big to backup.
[11:13] <tomreyn> well RAID is not backup
[11:13] <SnipeDOG> Version : 1.2
[11:13] <SnipeDOG>      Raid Level : raid0
[11:13] <SnipeDOG>   Total Devices : 7
[11:13] <SnipeDOG>     Persistence : Superblock is persistent
[11:13] <SnipeDOG>           State : inactive
[11:13] <tomreyn> you should do both
[11:13] <SnipeDOG>   Delta Devices : 1, (-1->0)
[11:13] <ikonia> raid 5 is not back up
[11:13] <ikonia> spuniun: use a pastebin please
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> SnipeDOG  next time, use a pastebin
[11:13] <tomreyn> !pastebin | SnipeDOG
[11:14] <mlky> the consoles you get from the shortcut alt+ctrl+F1-F6 are filled with the same messages about starting some daemons, how do i reset one so i can login? X is running kodi and eth0 is crashed, i know i can get internet again, by running sudo dhclient, is it possible?
[11:14] <ikonia> mlky: reset one so you can login ?
[11:15] <SnipeDOG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292902/
[11:15] <mlky> usually on these consoles, there is just a login screen
[11:15] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: besides /proc/mdstat you'll also want to post information on your partitions on all drives, and mdadm.conf
[11:15] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: shy do you have so many spares ?
[11:16] <ikonia> they all appear to be marked as spare
[11:16] <SnipeDOG> tomreyn - can you walk me through how to do that?
[11:16] <SnipeDOG> Ikonia - I noticed that too! But that was after the power cut. They are NOT spares.
[11:16]  * geez[m] sent a long message: geez[m]_2017-04-01_11:16:47.txt - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/khGGxFGJGtLVbVaRWelxnTcC
[11:16] <geez[m]> SnipeDOG: Is that what you did?
[11:17] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: they are spare
[11:17] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: hence why they are marked as spare
[11:17] <SnipeDOG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292905/
[11:17] <SnipeDOG> They weren't spares before. They were properly functioning and filled with data. Only after the crash they are marked as spare now.
[11:17] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: I suspect you are now in a high risk situation
[11:18] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: you need to start the array to understand what state the metadata thinks it's in
[11:18] <SnipeDOG> Yeah...Thats what I fear too.. Hence I need someone to help me please...
[11:18] <ikonia> as the config files probably won't mirror the state
[11:18] <geez[m]> SnipeDOG: What's in /etc/mdadm.conf?
[11:18] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: sudo apt.get install pastebinit; cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf | pastebinit
[11:18] <SnipeDOG> ikonia - I am a newbie. I would appreciate help.
[11:19] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: sudo parted -ls | pastebinit
[11:19] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: have a listen to what others think, I think you need to start the array to understand the reality of your metadata, to a certain extent what's in the config files at this state doesn't matter
[11:19] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: typo fixed: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf | pastebinit
[11:19] <SnipeDOG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292912/
[11:20] <SnipeDOG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292913/
[11:20] <tomreyn> SnipeDOG: blkid | pastebinit
[11:20] <SnipeDOG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24292918/
[11:20] <geez[m]> `Partition Table: unknown` :|
[11:22] <geez[m]> SnipeDOG: At this point I'm afraid to suggest anything, you definitely need someone who really knows their stuff
[11:23] <SnipeDOG> geez - thank you for your help anyway. Much appreciated. If anyone can suggest anyone or a company I would be very grateful.
[11:24] <kgb> ugh it's a PLEX, so their support? :)
[11:25] <ikonia> plex is nothing to do with raid
[11:25] <SnipeDOG> No its a Linux RAID array. PLEX is only the media server software that goes on top.
[11:25] <kgb> no kidding, i just googled it xd
[11:25] <ikonia> SnipeDOG: I suspect you have an additional "thing" happen somewhere in your trying to replace the disk,
[11:25] <ikonia> I believe you need to start the array (at risk) at understand the reality of your situation
[11:26] <donster> hi! does anybody know where/how to get glibconfig.h on ubuntu
[11:26] <mlky> i cant use any of my virtual consoles, because its filled with spam from what i'm guessing is from dmesg, is there a way i can use a console again? some shortcut?
[11:26] <donster>                  16.04? i have installed libgtk2.0-dev
[11:26] <SnipeDOG> ikonia - I tried that but then it gave me an error - sth like "not enough to start the array"
[11:28] <lucas-arg> hello all
[11:28] <lucas-arg> how can i make libinput to enable two finger scrooling??
[11:29] <lucas-arg> libinput Scroll Methods Available (285):	0, 0, 1 it show read 1, 0, 0
[11:29] <lucas-arg> but when i try to do xinput set-prop 11 285 1 0 0 it gives me this error
[11:29] <lucas-arg> X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[11:57] <angel-swe> Kgb downloaded
[11:57] <angel-swe> Would you share the link again
[12:09] <blackbird1> Hi
[12:09] <runessa> Hi guys!
[12:09] <blackbird1> Is there a command line to know if the live USB is persistent or not ?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> blackbird1  did you create a persistent live usb?
[12:11] <ioria> blackbird1, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/46840/check-if-pendrive-is-persistent
[12:12] <blackbird1> MonkeyDust: I think so, I create it with Startup Disk Creator
[12:14] <blackbird1> ioria: that file casper-rw doesn't exist !
[12:14] <blackbird1> even syslinux.cfg !
[12:14] <ioria> blackbird1, well, try to install or write something, reboot and test, i'd say
[12:17] <blackbird1> Sorry but this is solution is bad, each time when I wanna check if the live USB is persistent or not, I have to boot on live USB --> add something --> reboot on the live USB --> check
[12:18] <blackbird1> this solution*
[12:18] <ioria> blackbird1,  so use the first 'solution', check if casper-rw exists
[12:19] <blackbird1> ioria: casper-rw doesn't exis
[12:19] <ioria> blackbird1,  ok
[12:21] <ioria> blackbird1,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Verifying_That_Everything_Worked
[12:24] <irthewinner> Hi guys. what's the main difference between Ubuntu (Unity) and Ubuntu Gnome (and what do you recommend for a Desktop user)
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> irthewinner  unity has the launcher on the left, gnome-shell looks different
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> irthewinner  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[12:26] <blackbird1> irthewinner: I think it 's the design and how launch applications
[12:26] <irthewinner> but other than the UI (user interface) is there anything else different? apps / drivers / support
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> irthewinner  the repos (software sources) are the same
[12:26] <blackflow> irthewinner: I'd recommend Unity. Gnome is going the route of removing functionality in the name of simplicity or whatever, plus it's visually "fatter" while Unity is ergonomicaly more useful, IMHO.
[12:27] <blackflow> afaik you can install both in parallel and see what you prefer better yourself.
[12:28] <irthewinner> strange thing, because my friend had problems with NVIDIA drivers in Unity but worked great on Gnome
[12:28] <blackbird1> ioria: thanks I'll try in 2s :)
[12:28] <blackbird1> see you soon
[12:28] <blackflow> irthewinner: so one issue automatically makes the whole thing bad in comparison?
[12:29] <irthewinner> no, I mean maybe there's a bit of difference (other than the UI I mean)
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> irthewinner  then it looks like you found a differnece
[12:29] <harovali> hi, How can I disable automatic time and date update ? I'd kill the ntp process, but there is no process by this name
[12:30] <blackflow> irthewinner: there are technical differences in compositors for example
[12:30] <harovali> in ubuntu 16.04 lts
[12:30] <blackflow> harovali: the default is systemd-timesyncd iirc
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> harovali  in the system settings > date & time ... disable Network time
[12:31] <amosbird> hello, could anyone help me with this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43156888/how-to-remap-keys-for-my-new-bluetooth-keyboard  ?
[12:32] <harovali> blackflow: MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:33] <irthewinner> thanks guys :) I will try the USB version for both destros (then I will decide which one is good for me)
[12:33] <feneco> hi, after update my hotkey to change tty (ctrl+alt+F#) changed to only (alt+F#) any idea how to change it back? I think I confirmed it on a dialog during the update but I don't know how to change it again
[12:35] <harovali> what's the difference between time-sync.target and systemd-timesyncd.service ?
[12:41] <JRSS121> hi guys, I'm trying to create a USB Live CD for Kali for my ARM Chromebook, as Kali describes in their website. However, I can't get the dd commanad to work. Can someone help?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> JRSS121  kali is noty supported here
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> JRSS121  neither is ARM
[12:41] <JRSS121> well the command is the same as any other distribution no? it's just the syntax
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> JRSS121  then try any other distribution's channel
[12:42] <JRSS121> ok thanks.
[12:42] <ducasse> !kali | JRSS121
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> 'gnewsense'? prunounced as 'g-nuissance'?
[12:46] <ducasse> never even heard of that one.
[12:46] <OerHeks> .. smells like..?
[12:48] <HankMoody> I would think it's "new sense"
[12:49] <ducasse> i think their use of camelcase support that.
[12:50] <angel-swe> is fat32 Fine for ubuntu bootabke Flash disk?
[12:51] <ducasse> angel-swe: you don't need to format it first
[12:51] <angel-swe> I have some stuff in
[12:52] <ducasse> angel-swe: the boot iso has a filesystem in it, it will just overwrite
[12:52] <angel-swe> Ok
[13:10] <numb3r> mode +Z
[13:22] <andrea_> sisal
[13:39] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[13:41] <angel-swe> Kgb here?
[13:52] <jamesleimer> morning
[13:54] <angel-swe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7G3aeAVn/irccloudcapture1748190733.jpg
[13:54] <angel-swe> This wont delete My dualboot winfows right
[13:54] <angel-swe> Just the old ubuntu
[13:55] <ppf> so, this is a repeating issue and it's a bit annoying:
[13:55] <ppf> i'm on a laptop, using wifi.
[13:55] <ppf> a couple minutes after the machine is booted, there appears to be a slight hickup in the network
[13:56] <ppf> the ping rises by a factor 10 briefly
[13:56] <jackhum> hello peeps , i am trying to enable swipe to change workspace gestures in my dell 5520 ,
[13:56] <ppf> the problem is that i open ssh sessions shortly after startup, and when this happens, the connections hang and i have to kill them forcefully
[13:56] <jackhum> i tried this https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma , in lenovo ideapad and it worked properly
[13:57] <angel-swe> Did abyone seen My screenshot
[13:57] <ppf> any way to pin down the problem? or to make ssh resilient against this?
[13:58] <jackhum> but it is not working
[13:59] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, if you're worried, use the manual partitoner (something else) and install to the ubuntu partition
[14:00] <lucas-arg> where can i find new synptics drivers for ubuntu??
[14:01] <jackhum> lucas-arg, are you tring to do what i am trying to do?
[14:01] <lucas-arg> jackhum, i dunno what are you tryin to do?
[14:02] <lucas-arg> !synaptics
[14:02] <lucas-arg> well already seen that web doesnt tell me much
[14:02] <scatterp> hi can some one help me my ubuntu server has totally frozen up even after a reboot i need to figure out whats wrong with it... i have ssh access but its slow ..
[14:03] <jackhum> lucas-arg, i am trying to enable three finger swipe workspace gestures in my dell 5520 laptop
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> scatterp  do you also have physical access?
[14:03] <ducasse> ppf: maybe mosh would be a good tool for you?
[14:03] <scatterp> MonkeyDust yes
[14:03] <lucas-arg> problem i have is that for some reason, ubuntu does not detects my touchpad as synaptics (even though it is a synaptics touchpad) it detects is as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
[14:03] <jackhum> i tried doing it , on a new lenovo ideapad , and it works , but it is not working on my laptop
[14:03] <jackhum> i tried using https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma ,
[14:03] <lucas-arg> im trying to make it work correctly that would be a start...
[14:04] <scatterp> MonkeyDust ubuntu 16 running on esxi as a vm .. 4gb of ram allocated when i last rebooted
[14:04] <lucas-arg> i had to add some i8042.nomux=1 etc to make it work ok, and now im tryin to make two finger scrolling work
[14:04] <scatterp> MonkeyDust it only has lamp nothing else running on it
[14:05] <lucas-arg> jackhum, did you use xinput list-props <device>?
[14:06] <angel-swe> BluesKaj: I am using ubuntu ads dualboot side to Windows 7 and want to keep it Like that. Is that choice for that?
[14:06] <lucas-arg> angel-swe, windows 7 is a >10 year OS
[14:07] <angel-swe> I know that
[14:07] <scatterp> MonkeyDust i think its a memory issue
[14:08] <jackhum> lucas-arg, ?
[14:08] <lucas-arg> jackhum, try xinpit list in terminal and see what options does your driver give you under linux and see if you have three finger option to enable it
[14:08] <ppf> ducasse: what's it do?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, you'll see all thepsrtitions , and format the ext4 and set the mountpoint as / (root)
[14:09] <jackhum> lucas-arg,  Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[14:09] <jackhum> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[14:09] <jackhum> ⎜   ↳ ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
[14:09] <ppf> ducasse: looks like a replacement for ssh that isn't hurt so much by connection issues?
[14:09] <ducasse> ppf: right.
[14:09] <ppf> ducasse: i might give it a show. actually, i'd like to understand where the network issue is coming from
[14:10] <ppf> it's 100% reproducible. independent on the wifi
[14:10] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, and don't do anything to the NTFS (Windows) partition, and you'll be fine
[14:10] <ppf> always occurs within 5 minutes of system uptime
[14:10] <ducasse> ppf: of course, but mosh can be good to know about. i'm not sure what the actual problem could be, what chipset is this?
[14:11] <lucas-arg> jackhum, xinput list-props 4 but copy and paste that in some paste web app or something
[14:13] <ppf> ducasse: intel i5
[14:14] <ducasse> ppf: i mean wifi chipset
[14:15] <ppf> intel 8260
[14:16] <angel-swe> BluesKaj:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/e7g71TL9/irccloudcapture1701244308.jpg
[14:16] <angel-swe> Isnt this option what ur talking about
[14:16] <ducasse> ppf: they typically work well, afaik. haven't heard of similar issues.
[14:18] <scatterp> hi can some one help me my ubuntu server has totally frozen up even after a reboot i need to figure out whats wrong with it... i have ssh access but its slow .. it seems like apache2 is using 90.8% of my 4gb of memory ... is this normal ?
[14:18] <ducasse> ppf: anything in the logs/dmesg?
[14:19] <scatterp> i guess not :/
[14:21] <ppf> ducasse: absolutely nothing
[14:23] <ducasse> ppf: which mode are you connected in?
[14:24] <ppf> Mode:Managed  Frequency:5.18 GHz
[14:24] <ducasse> ppf: i mean ac, n, g etc. 5ghz, so it's either n or ac
[14:25] <ppf> n
[14:25] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, no, look at the bottom of the page, Something Else, it's shouid be called Manual
[14:25] <ppf> the chipset doesn't do ac, sadly
[14:26] <ppf> s,chipset,AP
[14:26] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, Once you choose Somrthing Else, you'll see all the psrtitions , and format the ext4 and set the mountpoint as / (root)
[14:26] <ducasse> ppf: then i'm stumped, sorry. i'm sure others here know more about wifi than i do, so hang around.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> angel-swe, psrtitions=partitions
[14:32] <fyan-rava> hello
[14:32] <fyan-rava> i have a problem
[14:32] <jackhum> fyan-rava, ?
[14:32] <fyan-rava> can i past source in here?
[14:32] <jackhum> fyan-rava, no
[14:33] <fyan-rava> where ?
[14:33] <ducasse> !paste | fyan-rava
[14:33] <jackhum> fyan-rava, use something like pastebin
[14:34] <ducasse> fyan-rava: but if you mean source code, you should get programming help elsewhere
[14:34] <harovali> how do I disable NetworkManager ? I want to manage the NICs manually
[14:34] <angel-swe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GuC2aOBH/irccloudcapture1019964416.jpg
[14:34] <ducasse> harovali: just configure them in /etc/network/interfaces, and nm won't touch them
[14:35] <mustachiod_man> hello my wifi's bad
[14:36] <compdoc> heh, I thought you said your wife was bad
[14:36] <harovali> ducasse: aparently it keeps touching /etc/resolv.conf , i m not sure
[14:36] <compdoc> I was going to say congrats
[14:36] <ducasse> harovali: resolvconf handles that
[14:38] <fyan-rava> here my problem: http://imgur.com/a/0hqLW
[14:38] <harovali> ducasse: touché
[14:39] <ducasse> fyan-rava: read the errors, it tells you what to run to fix it
[14:39] <fyan-rava> apt-get -f install
[14:39] <ducasse> fyan-rava: exactly
[14:39] <fyan-rava> error too
[14:40] <ikonia> pastebin the error
[14:40] <ikonia> you can't say "error too" as that doesn't tell us the problem
[14:41] <fyan-rava> http://imgur.com/a/SCcy3
[14:41] <ikonia> pastebin
[14:42] <ikonia> unmet dependencies.....
[14:42] <ikonia> so a PPA has been used somewhere and now you're trying to undo it
[14:43] <ikonia> mysql is going to conflict with maria, so you need to sort that out first
[14:43] <ikonia> remove the deb file from cache that it's trying to unpack
[14:44] <fyan-rava> ikonia: i was remove *.deb file of mysql-server, after that reboot my system, then try install mariadb but error
[14:44] <ikonia> why ios there a .deb file for mysql ?
[14:44] <ikonia> why is it not pulled from the repo
[14:45] <ikonia> you need to clean up your package manifest
[14:45] <fyan-rava> how to clean ?
[14:45] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[14:46] <fyan-rava> i need to clean up my package manifest, i do not how to clean?
[14:47] <ikonia> so mysql will conflict with maria db
[14:47] <ikonia> you need to sort that out before trying to replace one
[14:47] <ikonia> a.) where did mysql come from ?
[14:47] <fyan-rava> Vietnam
[14:47] <fyan-rava> i am a student
[14:47] <fyan-rava> new use ubuntu
[14:47] <fyan-rava> new user ubuntu
[14:47] <Plotznick> downloaded 16.04 onto a USB stick, trying to install on a dell laptop.  Booting from USB stick works, but can't install because it says I only have 4GB disk free -- installer never asked me to install to hard disk, it seems it's trying to install itself to USB again.  I must be missing something simple.  How do I choose install target disk?
[14:48] <fyan-rava> My English not good
[14:48] <ikonia> fyan-rava: ok - so how did you install mysql ?
[14:48] <_28Kb> i'm also new user, nothing works for us
[14:48] <ikonia> _28Kb: pretty sure it does
[14:48] <Plotznick> install prompt lets me choose language, then wifi network, then it tells me I don't have enough disk without ever prompting target
[14:48] <SaberArthur> hmm.. never encountered that problem.. can you view your disk from gparted?
[14:49] <fyan-rava> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[14:49] <jackhum> ikonia, what is package manifest ? just curious
[14:49] <ikonia> jackhum: the details of the package installed on your system
[14:49] <fyan-rava> when i install it, have the report remove mariadb
[14:49] <jackhum> ikonia, how can i see mine /
[14:49] <ikonia> fyan-rava: ok - so can you "sudo apt-get remove mysql-server" ?
[14:49] <ikonia> jackhum: dpkg -l
[14:50] <fyan-rava> no
[14:50] <ikonia> fyan-rava: what happens
[14:50] <ikonia> use a pastebin
[14:50] <fyan-rava> error
[14:50] <ikonia> you can't say "error" it means nothing
[14:50] <ikonia> you have to show us in a pastebin the problem
[14:50] <Plotznick> SaberArthur: it seems gparted only sees /dev/sda1 mounted to /cdrom which appears to be the USB stick......very strange
[14:51] <ducasse> fyan-rava: 'error' is not enough information, use a proper pastebin to show us the errors
[14:51] <jackhum> fyan-rava, i can understand your not so good english problem :|
[14:51] <jackhum> fyan-rava, dont worry , people here are by all means trying to help you
[14:51] <fyan-rava> subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status (1)
[14:52] <ducasse> fyan-rava: paste the full output on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <SaberArthur> mount the drive?
[14:53] <fyan-rava> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24293593/
[14:53] <ikonia> thats not the full output
[14:53] <ikonia> it doesn't show us what you ran
[14:54] <ikonia> what was the exact command you ran to get that output
[14:54] <Plotznick> SaberArthur: only drive seen is already mounted, no device representing any other.   Googling around now for why ubuntu would fail to recognize various SSDs
[14:55] <fyan-rava> anythings in those
[14:55] <fyan-rava> after install mariadb 10, i install sql-server and have that problem
[14:55] <_28Kb> i guess he did "sudo apt-get remove mysql-server"
[14:56] <SaberArthur> Plotznick: ah, so it is ssd? Hmm, afradi can't help you, never seen those things
[14:57] <_28Kb> usually apt-get purge mysql* helps
[14:57] <OerHeks> fyan-rava, line 35 + 36 .. you have some debian package installed, without telling us?
[14:57] <OerHeks> If are sure you want to downgrade to 5.7, remove the file /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag and try installing again.
[14:57] <jackhum> i am trying to make 3 finger swipe gesture work on my ubuntu 16.04 installed on old dell 5520 ,
[14:58] <jackhum> this is what i am trying to use , https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma , because i made it working using this
[14:58] <jackhum> can anyone help me to troubleshoot
[14:58] <jackhum> this script is not detecting touch at all
[14:59] <jackhum> also , http://paste.ubuntu.com/24293596/  ,
[14:59] <fyan-rava> i am sorry because it is the first time i using ubuntu as linux so i don't know anythings
[14:59] <jackhum> some guy said me to tell me the output of xinput list-props 4
[15:00] <fyan-rava> good night
[15:00] <compdoc> fyan-rava, before you know it, you'll be an expert like me
[15:00] <fyan-rava> Thanks
[15:00] <jackhum> compdoc, you expert mate ?
[15:00] <_28Kb> i'm noob too but mysql installed as charm
[15:00] <fyan-rava> i will came back tomorrow
[15:00] <jackhum> compdoc, if you are help me pls
[15:00] <compdoc> you betcha
[15:01] <jackhum> compdoc, help me dude, lets put that expertise on test
[15:01] <compdoc> well, I know about the things I use ubuntu for, so not eerything
[15:02] <jackhum> any ubuntu god here , please bless me
[15:02] <Plotznick> SaberArthur: found the solution.   It was here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/696413/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-any-disk-on-dell-xps-13-9350  apparently newer Dell XPS SSDs have some funky bios setting that makes it not possible for Ubuntu to see the drive.  Switching it to ACHI / SATA makes it possible for Ubuntu to see it.
[15:02] <Plotznick> Switching BIOS setting warns you that it might make the existing Windows drive unbootable, but who cares?  The objective is to get Ubuntu on.  :)
[15:03] <_28Kb> jackhum have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/92169/touchpad-gestures-to-change-workspace
[15:04] <_28Kb> these gesture stuff has it's standards
[15:08] <_28Kb> i was checking if those new snaps will make things easier - nope
[15:08] <_28Kb> no snap is working for me
[15:09] <jackhum> _28Kb, i tried touchegg , problem is i think my laptop doesnt detect 3 fingers touch at all , while my windows can
[15:10] <jackhum> _28Kb, 2 fingers are working fine , but i dont see any detection for 3 fingers
[15:10] <jackhum> _28Kb, its not like my touchpad doesnt detect 3 fingers , infact it can for 4 fingers too , but no luck on ubuntu
[15:11] <_28Kb> i cant't help you... my main guess is that you should find app similar to touchegg.. but working
[15:13] <jackhum> _28Kb, well , i googled a lot about this stuff , found 1 program on github that goes by the name fusuma , i tried it on a new lenovo ideapad , it works like a charm
[15:13] <jackhum> _28Kb, but . my old dell 5520 doesnt detect 3 finger touch
[15:14] <jackhum> anyway i can check what type of drivers i am using for my touchpad ?
[15:15] <_28Kb> maybe on touchpad manufacturer site you could find some ubuntu software
[15:23] <Tatou> What is a nice alternative to thunderbird?
[15:23] <Tatou> Mail bird looks nice But it's windows only.
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Tatou  choose one you like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EmailClients
[15:25] <OerHeks> N1, Evolution, Geary ..
[15:25] <Armays> hello i have nothing in my mountpoints when i do lsblk
[15:25] <Armays> is that normal ?
[15:25] <ducasse> Tatou: if you want a gui client claws is nice imo, for console mutt.
[15:25] <Tatou> Non gui for email? :x
[15:25] <Tatou> Don't get me wrong i love the cli.. but for email?!
[15:25] <OerHeks> an email-gui on a server is useless
[15:26] <ducasse> Tatou: yeees? i use mutt most of the time.
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Tatou  many people never use a gui
[15:26] <Tatou> huh.. Let's see..
[15:26]  * Tatou loves the irssi
[15:26] <ducasse> Tatou: mail is just text anyway.
[15:27] <Tatou> Going to clean the shit out of my email frst with thunderbird. So much crap in there
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Tatou  mind your language
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> you're not at a Trump conference
[15:27] <Tatou> I wish I was :/
[15:28] <Southern_Gentlem> MonkeyDust,  wouldntthat have been a DNC
[15:28] <Tatou> I kid. But for real, cursing is ok so long as it's not directed at someone
[15:28] <Tatou> Intent is key
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Tatou  still, avoid profane words, here
[15:29] <Tatou> -_- thunderbird is struggling with my gmail account
[15:29] <ikonia> Tatou: cursing is no ok - please don't use it
[15:30] <Tatou> Why are people so offended by cursing?
[15:30] <Tatou> You give those words power when you fear them so much
[15:30] <ikonia> Tatou: keep it simple - don't use it
[15:30] <ikonia> Tatou: no one is feearing anything, the channels rules are polite converastion no swearing
[15:30]  * OerHeks mumbles 'family-friendly'
[15:30] <Tatou> It was polite though, it was not directed at anyone
[15:30] <ikonia> Tatou: polite conversation, no searing
[15:30] <ikonia> swearing
[15:31] <genii> Also, no searing
[15:31] <Tatou> See I wouldn't call swearing impolite
[15:31] <Tatou> Ok is it normal for thunderbird to struggle this much?
[15:31] <ikonia> Tatou: there is a comma there, polite converaation and no swearing
[15:31] <ikonia> Tatou: it's not really a debate, please just don't swear
[15:31] <ikonia> thunderbird works well, until you ask it to do more than your ram can handle
[15:31] <Tatou> This is what I mean though - a single curse word and it's derailed the entire channel
[15:32] <Tatou> I've never minded cursing, but I am also in a profession where it's totally tolerated.
[15:32] <ikonia> Tatou: no, you have by arguing it, rather than just saying "sure, no problem"
[15:33] <Tatou> I wish there was a nice way to load my emails into splunk..
[15:34] <Tatou> Would mutt let me see clearly what is cluttering my inbox?
[15:35] <Tatou> I have 28k messages -_-
[15:35] <ducasse> Tatou: also check out supmail
[15:35] <ikonia> Tatou: its probably your imap server having a problem
[15:35] <rbw> how to create a post-suspend job in ubuntu?
[15:35] <Tatou> Yes I imagine so ikonia
[15:35] <Tatou> I just want to cut down on the junk in there.. I need to start unsubbing to things
[15:36] <minimec> jackhum: Can you 'handle' some terminal commands in case you lose the mouse or touchpad? My idea would be to replace 'xserver-xorg-input-libinput' with 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' for a try. The synaptics driver is the 'old standard' before the whole linux world switched to 'libinput'. It's worth a try I guess.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> rbw  you mean, a job after your machine wakes up from suspend? rtcwake can do that
[15:38] <Tatou> ha.. It's stuff like this.. I set myself as a recipient of error emails at work... So now i have a million of them
[15:39] <ikonia> Tatou: do you have access to the mail server - or only via a client
[15:39] <Tatou> ikonia: It's gmail
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Tatou  create a filter, that deletes every message with 'unsubscribe' in it
[15:39] <ikonia> Tatou: that is limiting, I "think" you maybe able to pre-filter in gmail, I'm not sure though
[15:39] <Tatou> So look at this.. 15k of error emails from a service I wrote at my last job..
[15:39] <rbw> MonkeyDust: yeah, when it wakes up.
[15:40] <rbw> MonkeyDust: can't it be done using systemd?
[15:40] <OerHeks>  LessSecureApps gmail's option must be enabled in gmail, for any mailclient
[15:40] <Tatou> I generally need to just clean up my mail etc tbh
[15:41] <Tatou> I'm trying to generally clean up essential online services and whatnot right now.. Password managers, email, ynab, and I'm scripting out a lot of workflows I do daily on my personal laptop
[15:42] <Tatou> I might see if I can set up rules where it auto deletes some things after 10 days.. I want notifying, but not history..
[15:43] <ikonia> Tatou: this is probably quite a bit outside the bounderies of this channels topic/focus
[15:43] <Tatou> Yeah, that it is
[15:44] <Tatou> Though I must say - it is great to be back on linux. Having such a nice scriptable ecosystem is fantastic
[15:45] <ducasse> Tatou: sup-mail might be what you want, it's first priority is to make it easy to handle massive amounts of mail.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> rbw  not sure about systemd, but explore the rtcwake command
[15:45] <ducasse> *its
[15:45] <Tatou> ducasse: I'll check that and mutmail out :)
[15:46] <ducasse> Tatou: 'mutt'
[15:47] <Tatou> My bad :3
[15:47] <Tatou> Either way, down from 35k to 3.5k so it's all good
[15:49] <rbw> MonkeyDust: according to the freedesktop documentation you can place post scripts under /usr/lib/systemd/system-sleep , I'll try that instead. I'll look into rtcwake if this doesn't work. Thanks :)
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> rbw  a thank you for the system-sleep tip
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> and*
[15:53] <tuxedo> Hello
[15:53] <tuxedo> Why firefox it's restart so many time in ubuntu
[15:53] <tuxedo> Why firefox it's restart so many time in ubuntu?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> tuxedo  don't use too many extensions, plugins etc
[16:06] <tuxedo> ok
[16:16] <Guest7903> hi. How do I install pastebinit via terminal?
[16:17] <sicko> Can someone tell me whats wrong with this python version checker http://ideone.com/t3pc00
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest235  sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:17] <Armays> hello i have this error : HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers.
[16:17] <Armays> Retrying.
[16:17] <db_o_O> MonkeyDust,  apt or apt-get ?
[16:17] <Armays> but i didnt have this pb before
[16:18] <Armays> the file to download exists
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> db_o_O  since 16.04, you can use apt instead of apt-get
[16:18] <db_o_O> I am using the lastest ubuntu.. Just installed
[16:18] <adaviator> hi
[16:18] <compdoc> use apt now
[16:19] <adaviator> is there a special guide how to install & configure ubuntu server
[16:19] <db_o_O> ok done
[16:19] <ducasse> !server | adaviator
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> !server
[16:19] <db_o_O> and what was the command to run it the one with update
[16:19] <db_o_O> I mean the pastebinit
[16:19] <adaviator> thanks!
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> db_o_O  sudo apt update | pastebinit
[16:20] <db_o_O> MonkeyDust, Thank you so much
[16:21] <sicko> Can someone tell me whats wrong with this python version checker http://ideone.com/t3pc00
[16:21] <db_o_O> How come linux could install my all drivers on install?
[16:21] <db_o_O> *ubuntu
[16:22] <adaviator> oh ubuntu is still using ifup for configuring the network in ubuntu server, not some systemd solution?
[16:23] <adaviator> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[16:23] <adaviator> i expected NetworkManager
[16:24] <ducasse> adaviator: network manager is only used if you install a desktop environment.
[16:24] <compdoc> sicko, your equation is bad
[16:28] <Tatou> What I love about win10 - the nice bing daily image lockscreen images
[16:28] <Tatou> Is there a nice way to get this on the ubuntu?
[16:29] <adaviator> aight.. i assume /etc/network/interfaces will be run on reboot too and i dont need to enable anything like how i would in systemd with `systemctl enable NetworkManager`
[16:31] <adaviator> yep it is
[16:32] <darkad> Hi all, do you think it would be better a kernel 3.x for a 32bit atom n270 netbook?
[16:36] <AssociateX> How can I tell which DM I am using?
[16:37] <OerHeks> what DM > dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[16:37] <sicko> compdoc, How can i change it. I realized that by removing the 2 it does recognize it. But i want the particular python 2 . How do i include a constant in the regex
[16:38] <compdoc> sicko, you might look at using eval
[16:38] <ducasse> darkad: probably doesn't matter. a netbook is not going to be good for much anyway.
[16:39] <AssociateX> OerHeks, I see lightDM and sddm.
[16:40] <OerHeks> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager # this is more accurate
[16:40] <OerHeks> AssociateX, yes, i found that out myself 2, ldm and lightdm
[16:40] <AssociateX> OerHeks, thanks, it's lightdm
[16:41] <darkad> ducasse: still searching for a solution for my old cpu
[16:41] <sicko> compdoc, can you give me a little more info? I'll follow it up
[16:41] <AssociateX> Now, why does logging into lightdm take so long? After I enter my password it sits for 20 seconds doing nothing, then logs in.
[16:41] <ducasse> darkad: what's the problem?
[16:42] <darkad>  ducasse: Browsing hotmail gmail or facebook it goes very slow
[16:42] <darkad> ducasse: I'm with chromium
[16:43] <ducasse> darkad: yes, it's going to be - it's an atom netbook. they're super-slow.
[16:43] <compdoc> sicko, https://pastebin.com/NhmjnWWK
[16:43] <darkad> ducasse: a way to not create other trash
[16:45] <ducasse> darkad: your choice, that machine will never be fast.
[16:45] <sicko> compdoc, Python_Version = $ python --version
[16:45] <sicko> so it'll give me the same output
[16:46] <compdoc> whatever works :)
[16:46] <sicko> I need to put a constant '2' in my reg ex.
[16:46] <ioria> sicko, python writes the version string on stderr, so you need  python_version=$(python --version 2>&1)
[16:47] <darkad> ducasse: maybe I think that with a live slackware I can run everything on ram and probably it will be
[16:47] <orf_> Does anyone know what package provides the 'replace' command?
[16:47] <orf_> It's a mysql command, but it's not in `mysql-utilities`
[16:47] <orf_> i.e this one: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/replace.htm
[16:48] <ducasse> darkad: how much ram does it have?
[16:48] <darkad> ducasse: just 2 GB
[16:49] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:49] <ioria> orf_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/amd64/mysql-server-5.7/filelist
[16:49] <orf_> urgh.
[16:50] <orf_> a whole mysql server instance for replace :(
[16:50] <orf_> thanks ioria
[16:50] <ioria> orf_, no poblem
[16:51] <warrshrike> hey
[16:51] <ducasse> darkad: that cpu is 9 years old, a single-core 1.6ghz atom. it *is* slow, no matter what you do. it won't magically become a speed-monster.
[16:51] <warrshrike> i cant access my samba share from windows
[16:51] <warrshrike> any ideas
[16:51] <warrshrike> also it asks for a password and I dont want that
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> warrshrike  it's because linux requires a password, for safety
[16:52] <warrshrike> MonkeyDust: no way to disable it for samba?
[16:52] <warrshrike> its just on local lan so no security issues.
[16:53] <pauljw> darkad, that processor is also a 32-bit processor, you cannot put a 64-bit os on it.
[16:53] <warrshrike> also i cant access it with password too
[16:53] <warrshrike> any other ideas to share to windows?
[16:54] <darkad> ducasse: javascript frameworks that are using amazon facebook or hotmail are too heavy and a lot of images too. Everything else works fine
[16:55] <darkad> pauljw: infact I'm on a 32 bit distro
[16:56] <adaviator> mount /dev/md127 /mnt/
[16:56] <adaviator> mount: /dev/md127: can't read superblock
[16:56] <adaviator> why?
[16:58] <pauljw> darkad, and that's about as good as you're going to get.  maybe try a lighter distro, something like puppy linux or dsl.  your machine is actually at the end of its usefulness imo.  might need to look into an upgrade. :)
[16:59] <darkad> I'm wondering if my netbook would be faster with a 3.x kernel rather than a 4.x actual kernel
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> warrshrike  type   /j #samba
[16:59] <kk4ewt> doubtful
[16:59] <ducasse> darkad: most likely not.
[16:59] <Tatou> Why does pushd ../../ not working in bash?
[17:00] <Tatou> A bash script.
[17:02] <qswz> somone using imwheel? does it slow down the system?
[17:05] <youssef> hi
[17:05] <wastrel> Tatou: are you already in / ?
[17:05] <wastrel> then ../../ wouldn't do anything
[17:05] <minimec> qswz: Not at all. I use imwheel for yeears now. A 'must' on my systems...
[17:06] <quard> Hey, does anyone know how to bypass the Ubiquity installer error when /boot is in on an encrypted LUKS/LVM partition? The installer complains and wants an unencrypted /boot.
[17:06] <darkad> ducasse pauljw, thanks
[17:06] <pauljw> no problem
[17:07] <youssef> best tool to hack wpa2-psk?
[17:08] <ducasse> youssef: we're not going to help you with that
[17:09] <youssef> why.
[17:09] <youssef> why????
[17:09] <adaviator> can i just rsync my suse root to ubuntu?
[17:09] <ducasse> youssef: that should be obvious, it is most likely illegal (depending on where you live)
[17:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:10] <euanthe> 2
[17:10] <qswz> minimec: yea ok
[17:11] <qswz> I've read about libinput
[17:11] <ducasse> adaviator: the root filesystem? no, that will not work. what do you want to achieve?
[17:11] <qswz> but too complex to set, it replace synaptics too, so more congis
[17:11] <qswz> confis*
[17:11] <adaviator> duc89_, nah just the root home dir
[17:11] <adaviator> ducasse, *
[17:12] <youssef> ducasse: i live i morocco can you help me
[17:12] <ducasse> adaviator: for the root user's bashrc etc? there might be some minor stuff you will need to clean up.
[17:12] <adaviator> yeah, all files from /root
[17:12] <ducasse> youssef: no, we don't support stuff like that here.
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> youssef  stop
[17:13] <youssef> ducasse : ok
[17:13] <ducasse> adaviator: ubuntu and suse might have slightly different default PATH variables etc set, you really need to either test or look at the files side by side.
[17:14] <adaviator> ducasse, good to know, thanks!
[17:17] <ducasse> adaviator: things like .inputrc, .tmux.conf, .vimrc etc should be fine, though, just watch out for the shell config
[17:19] <ducasse> youssef: no, i'm ot going to help you in pm either. nobody here is. please stop asking.
[17:19] <ducasse> *not
[17:20] <sicko>  can anyone tell me why cut doesn't work on this "python --version|cut -c 1-4"
[17:22] <youssef> ducasse: ok thanks
[17:22] <ioria> sicko,  what's the output you want ?
[17:23] <sicko> I just want the 2 or 3 so that i'll know if its python 2 or 3.and then i can use a if statment.
[17:23] <arunpyasi> hello people, I have an issue with my ubuntu wifi, it gets disconnected time and again and I need to connect it again !!
[17:23] <ioria> sicko,   this ? python --version  2>&1 |cut -c 8
[17:24] <sifot> I have a networking question as well, is this the best channel to ask?
[17:24] <ducasse> sifot: that depends on the question, is it ubuntu-related in any way?
[17:25] <sifot> yeah, inter vlan routing on 16.10
[17:26] <wastrel> i'm goig to do the dishes
[17:26] <ducasse> sifot: try. if nobody answers try ##networking.
[17:27] <sifot> ducasse: thanks, I'll try there first.
[17:27] <sicko> ioria, yeah. This is good
[17:27] <ioria> sicko,   ok
[17:27] <sicko> Thanks :)
[17:27] <ioria> np
[17:27] <sicko> I'll show you what I did when i'm done.
[17:28] <woolf> greetings
[17:28] <woolf> earthlings
[17:29] <woolf> can anyone hear me?
[17:29] <woolf> hello
[17:29] <woolf> hello?
[17:30] <ducasse> woolf: yes, there's almost 1800 ppl here
[17:30] <minimec> woolf: We can read you...
[17:30] <woolf> ah yes I see that.
[17:30] <woolf> \1797
[17:30] <woolf> I'm just curious like... um... how do I register a nickname since this one is apparently already taken
[17:30] <ducasse> !register
[17:30] <woolf> !register
[17:31] <woolf> !register Shroomigal
[17:31] <woolf> hello
[17:31] <woolf> nope. Nothing.
[17:31] <ducasse> read the link
[17:32] <woolf> what link where?
[17:32] <woolf> ah there sorry
[17:32] <woolf> thanks
[17:32] <woolf> (not wearing spectacles)
[17:33] <Shroomificent> well
[17:36] <vkku[m]> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwL0O5nXe0
[17:36] <ducasse> !spam | vkku[m]
[17:38] <vkku[m]> ubottu: sorry, it was a google april fools prank
[17:38] <Shroomificent>  /msg nickserv register koenyn676@doddswillem@gmail.com
[17:39] <Shroomificent>  /msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address ok so everyone saw that... SIGH
[17:39] <ducasse> Shroomificent: do that in the server window/buffer - with a new password :)
[17:39] <munchkin24> Could anyone help me to understand how if I leave Ubuntu on for a few days, it will just not have any output selections in the sound options at all?
[17:39] <jackson456> Hey, I cannot remember the command to change permission of a log file
[17:40] <jackson456> chmodd?
[17:40] <jackson456> something like that?
[17:40] <ducasse> chmod
[17:40] <jackson456> Thats it!
[17:40] <jackson456> Thanks ducasse
[17:42] <ducasse> np
[17:42] <vagvaf> hello ppl, how can I add PHP to the PATH variable ?
[17:49] <arunpyasi> vagvaf, I don't think you need to add php to the PATH variable
[17:49] <arunpyasi> vagvaf, install php-cli and you can run php scripts from the command line without an issue !
[17:53] <jackson54321> Super newb here... Whenever I launch hexchat this error pops up "* Can't open log file(s) for writing. Check the
[17:53] <jackson54321> permissions on /home/jackson/.config/hexchat/logs/NETWORK/server.log"  I have tried chmod 777 /home/jackson/.config/hexchat/logs/NETWORK/server.log but it is not working. Any suggestions? If I run hexchat as root it goes away but running hexchat on root is dumb.
[17:55] <ducasse> jackson54321: that happens _because_ you run things as root, it screws up permissions
[17:55] <ducasse> jackson54321: run 'sudo chown -R $USER ~/.config'
[17:56] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: don't run root for anything
[17:57] <jackson54321> ducasse: Thank you
[17:57] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: unless you know what doing enough, and got good enough reason to.  and  root ends up owning evertyhing it touches baically
[17:57] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: and irc as root isnt secure yep
[17:57] <ducasse> jackson54321: if you *have* to run a gui application as root, use gksudo
[17:58] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: yep whwat he just put
[17:58] <Sbur> I have a 512 GB usb key.  My system doesn't seem to recognize it any more.  lsusb doesn't show it. It is inserted in a USB 3.0 socket that worked in the past.  How do I make the computer see the usb key?  I have similar problems with my DVD writer drive, though it worked before
[17:59] <jackson54321> ducasse, sebsebseb: Thank you guys for the help. Only 3 weeks in for me and I DEFINITELY am overwhelmed
[17:59] <Sbur> Though the DVD burner is connected by SATA
[18:01] <jackson54321> ducasse: gksudo a program?
[18:01] <jackson54321> or a command
[18:01] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: and file permissions can be annoying sometimes,  but its all t here to protect for the users saftey.
[18:01] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: gksudo nautilus for examle would open up the file manager as root, you put in the terminal
[18:01] <sebsebseb> gksudo is installed by default
[18:01] <sebsebseb> sudo is for command line programs
[18:01] <ioria> not sure about that
[18:01] <sebsebseb> !gksudo
[18:02] <sebsebseb> I think its  installed by default anyway
[18:02] <sebsebseb> if not
[18:02] <sebsebseb> sudo apt-get install gksudo I guess :d
[18:02] <ioria> !info gksudo
[18:02] <ioria> !info gksu
[18:02] <ducasse> sebsebseb: some desktops drag it in
[18:03] <ducasse> iirc
[18:03] <sebsebseb> jackson54321: how you find ouot about ubuntu ?
[18:06] <robertzaccour> howdy
[18:06] <robertzaccour> How do I use the Dell OS recovery tool on Ubuntu? Or is there a way to write the recovery image without the recovery tool?
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  there's clonezilla
[18:07] <robertzaccour> Here's the tool I'm trying to use. Or get the recovery image written to a usb flash drive without it. http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/OSISO/Download?OSISOToken=dnBDZ2pXRE0yZDZudnVWcWRGanZML3dvTytjVjNlU0JCVDRUOEUxKzFUVWtFZFhqcVlJM016WlpaMitwM2I4Ng2&DriverId=TV232-WT64A&OSCode=WB64A
[18:08] <robertzaccour> MonkeyDust: But I don't currently have Windows installed.
[18:10] <sebsebseb> robertzaccour: no the recovery partion is a windows thing
[18:10] <sebsebseb> robertzaccour: don't think you can do much with it and linux
[18:10] <sebsebseb> also its better to have some real install media a dvd  or usb for windows I htink
[18:10] <sebsebseb> think
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  what's that got to do with it?
[18:10] <OerHeks> http://www.dell.com/support/article/nl/nl/nlbsdt1/SLN265982/how-system-recovery-and-backup-works-with-ubuntu-linux-on-your-dell-pc?lang=EN
[18:12] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/dell-recovery for the tool itself
[18:15] <kep> ldkslc
[18:15] <kep> hi
[18:16] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:22] <ppf> ducasse: fun fact: using a 2.4ghz n wifi right now, and the connection is keeping up
[18:23] <amosbird> hi, what hwdb pattern should I use to match this https://paste.wentropy.com/dd8k
[18:24] <caustic_grip> o/
[18:26] <ducasse> ppf: interesting. sad you can't try 5ghz ac...
[18:26] <ppf> ducasse: yeah ..
[18:26] <rickety> i downloaded android studio for my 16.04 when i downoaded it, it opend and was used. but there is no icon of any kind to click to open, is there a way to make it do that or will i be always openeing from the terminal?
[18:27] <ducasse> ppf: i've had so many problems with 5ghz i just use 2.4ghz everywhere now, fwiw.
[18:28] <ppf> ducasse: i'll try and use the 2.4ghz net for a bit, see what happens
[18:29] <ppf> meanwhile, trying to mount an usb stick i get this: ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[18:29] <asdfsdfsdf> how do i add http://download.bareos.org/bareos/release/latest/xUbuntu_16.04/Sources to ubuntu 16.04 server?
[18:30] <ducasse> ppf: if it's not an option long term, maybe mosh is.
[18:33] <OerHeks> !info bareos
[18:33] <OerHeks> asdfsdfsdf, it is in our repos too ?
[18:33] <asdfsdfsdf> yes but only version 14, there is already 16
[18:34] <quard> Hey! What does this ubuntu icon mean? I always wondered. http://www.mobilefish.com/images/developer/ubuntu_boot_screen.gif
[18:34] <ducasse> !latest | asdfsdfsdf
[18:35] <quard> the keyboard and the happy guy
[18:36] <asdfsdfsdf> i need version 16.X for compatibility
[18:36] <OerHeks> asdfsdfsdf, check their docs > http://doc.bareos.org/master/html/bareos-manual-main-reference.html#x1-370002.3.3
[18:36] <asdfsdfsdf> bareos repo is good i just need to figure out how to add it
[18:36] <trism> rickety: there should be an option Tools/Create Desktop Entry... to automate creating one for you
[18:37] <asdfsdfsdf> OerHeks, yea, i try that
[18:38] <alkisg> quard, if you press that, you get keyboard (language and accessibility options
[18:38] <asdfsdfsdf> worked fine thanks OerHeks
[18:39] <OerHeks> asdfsdfsdf, have fun
[18:40] <asdfsdfsdf> it'll be fun porting my bareos database to the new ubuntu env :)
[18:40] <OerHeks> asdfsdfsdf, there are some limitations ...
[18:41] <asdfsdfsdf> both were 16.04, not sure if postgresql database match same versions though
[18:41] <asdfsdfsdf> ehm i mean 16.X
[18:41] <ppf> after a reboot, mount is successful (sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt)
[18:41] <ppf> but now i get this: ls: cannot access '/mnt': Transport endpoint is not connected
[18:41] <OerHeks> We provide no libfastlz
[18:41] <ppf> wth?
[18:42] <ppf> the stick is fine, works on another machine
[18:43] <ppf> there's nothing in dmesg/syslog
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> ppf  is this useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24966676/transport-endpoint-is-not-connected
[18:43] <rickety> im not finding that option anywhere trism
[18:44] <quard> oh, I thought that it means having a keyboard makes a lot of people happy versus a touchscreen or something
[18:44] <ppf> MonkeyDust: i'm on yakkety. your paste refers to an ancient version of fuse
[18:49] <blackbird1> Hi guys
[18:49] <sebsebseb> blackbird1: hi
[18:50] <thesushimanoftao> hi room can i bring os issues with studio 14.04 here?
[18:50] <xenux> hi
[18:50] <sebsebseb> thesushimanoftao: yes
[18:51] <thesushimanoftao> i am using stock install, w chrome and xeoma as my only add ons outside the software center
[18:51] <blackbird1> In a persistent live USB, I create a new user (group sudo), in the terminal the authentification pass very well, but in the software-center I can't authentificate
[18:52] <thesushimanoftao> i use software center for most of my updates but occasionally do an apt-get update
[18:52] <thesushimanoftao> and i keep getting boot failures
[18:53] <thesushimanoftao> is there a way to reinstall over existing data so i dont have to reset up accounts and move data around?
[18:53] <Ben64> thesushimanoftao: explain boot failures
[18:54] <thesushimanoftao> startup screen gives me the choice to "fix: etc and then only booted a couple times when iignored
[18:54] <Ben64> gonna need exact message
[18:55] <thesushimanoftao> that was it when it failed it stopped giving messages
[18:55] <thesushimanoftao> live cd works and still sees drive
[18:55] <Ben64> so it works now?
[18:55] <thesushimanoftao> wont boot off sdd drive
[18:55] <thesushimanoftao> only live cd
[18:55] <Ben64> ok what happens when you try to boot
[18:56] <thesushimanoftao> blinking cursor top left
[18:56] <thesushimanoftao> no splash
[18:56] <blackbird1> thesushimanoftao, chroot your sdd and try to fix it from it
[18:56] <thesushimanoftao> off of live cd?
[18:56] <blackbird1> live cd
[18:58] <blackbird1> thesushimanoftao, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[18:59] <OerHeks> "startup screen gives me the choice to fix: etc" sounds like you need to run fsck on those partitions
[19:00] <OerHeks> ignoring those warnings at boot result in ro filesystems, grinn
[19:02] <blackbird1> thesushimanoftao, boot in recovry mode (without live cd) and try the fsck as OerHeks said
[19:02] <blackbird1> anyone could help me please
[19:03] <OerHeks> blackfor that persistent usb, i think it is a waste of time making an other user with sudorights. it might work on a real install.
[19:03] <thesushimanoftao> just lost my uefi cd in bios
[19:06] <alkisg> ppf: try mounting /dev/sdd1 elsewhere, as /mnt might be a stall mount point. E.g. mkdir /tmp/sdd1; sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /tmp/sdd1
[19:09] <arunpyasi> hello people, I have an issue with my ubuntu wifi, it gets disconnected time and again and I need to connect it again !!
[19:10] <thesushimanoftao> now getting reboot and select proper boot device error
[19:10] <yoyodude> Hey peeps, I'm trying to install the linux kernel on an official vagrant ubuntubox
[19:11] <OerHeks> yoyodude, good luck, vagrant uses its own kernel.
[19:11] <yoyodude> (I need to do some linux kernel dev so I need to run the "pure" linux kernel)
[19:11] <yoyodude> OerHeks: I guess that makes sense why my box just stopped booting
[19:13] <OerHeks> i mean, it is not bad, but for kernel dev you would need something better than vagrant or virtualbox, KVM perhaps?
[19:14] <yoyodude> I unfortunately am on a Mac so I pretty much have to use a VM. I'll check out KVM, thanks!
[19:14] <OerHeks> 🐳
[19:14] <xenux> Do someone know the command to launch a ubuntu installed in legacy mode from a liveusb in EFI mode ?
[19:15] <yoyodude> Never used docker before either :(
[19:16] <thesushimanoftao> i am afraid my ssd may have failed
[19:16] <thesushimanoftao> grrr
[19:17] <thesushimanoftao> i disco'd the ssd and now live cd booting
[19:18] <acheron-a> thesushimanoftao, thats very rare, are you sure its not marked Read Only (RO)?
[19:19] <thesushimanoftao> not yet
[19:19] <breadandbutter> Hi! can i ask for support here or would i be better suited using the community forums?
[19:19] <thesushimanoftao> i am booting off livecd without sdd attached
[19:20] <thesushimanoftao> bread if you are using stock installs then ask here
[19:20] <rogier> breadandbutter, you can ask... if we can provide a solution, depends on the question/problem ;)
[19:21] <sherl0ckk> quit
[19:23] <BlitzerHound> Hey, perfect timing implite. :3
[19:23] <breadandbutter> well, basically i want to resize my c drive into a separate partition, so i can have more data to save stuff on. But... I've only used gparted once, and my windows install is also on C: so i really don't want to screw stuff up
[19:23] <implite> Hi
[19:25] <poinku> Hi
[19:25] <poinku> I want to try ubuntu
[19:25] <rogier> breadandbutter, so the drive is now fully dedicated to windows?
[19:25] <poinku> Can I do an installation from Usb pen drive
[19:25] <rogier> poinku: yes you can
[19:26] <xenux> poinku, yes
[19:26] <OerHeks> !installation
[19:26] <rogier> ^^
[19:26] <OerHeks> and !usb
[19:26] <rogier> !usb
[19:26] <poinku> rogier: Can i first download it on my android phone and then transfer iso or installation file to a. Usb pen drive using otg,  will that  work
[19:26] <rogier> ;-)
[19:27] <breadandbutter> I'm on ubuntu right now using a wubiuefi install, so the only separate space i have is the tiny 18gb partition it came with
[19:27] <xenux> poinku, no i will not work
[19:27] <rogier> poinko, i don't think so
[19:28] <xenux> poinku, the iso need to be put with special tools as dd
[19:28] <poinku> xenux: Okay,  because my PC has gone to misbehaving,  with Windows 10 on it
[19:28] <rogier> you could however, download the iso on you phone.. then tranfer the iso to a computer (via datacable).. and then burn it on a usb thumbdrive
[19:28] <xenux> to make it bootable
[19:28] <poinku> Okay
[19:29] <xenux> Be careful between legacy and EFI mode
[19:29] <poinku> Let me read that article,  brb
[19:30] <xenux> rogier, can I ask you something ?
[19:30] <rogier> you can
[19:30] <rogier> ;)
[19:30] <breadandbutter> but otherwise the drive is dedicated to windows, yes
[19:31] <xenux> I have installed my Ubuntu on legacy mode
[19:31] <xenux> Now I want to change the boot in EFI
[19:32] <rogier> breadandbutter, i would use a livecd with gparted, to resize the drive's partition. http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[19:34] <xenux> But I can't found a solution for run my installed Ubuntu in EFI mode so I can install EFI with apt-get
[19:34] <breadandbutter> if i  resized from within gparted on ubuntu itself, would that damage anything? I don't have access to media
[19:35] <implite> how do you turn on hidden folders and files in home directory?
[19:36] <Bashing-om> implite: ctl+h ?/ what you seek ?
[19:36] <rogier> breadandbutter, i'm not familiar with the wubiuefi thing... But i would, use a livecd or liveusb. (It's never wise to do these action on a drive that is in use.
[19:37] <implite> thanks Bashing-om
[19:37] <implite> yes that was what i wanted
[19:37] <Bashing-om> implite: :)
[19:39] <rogier> xenux: i've never done this... i remain with the type.. once installed
[19:39] <rogier> :)
[19:40] <xenux> ok thx
[19:40] <quard> what's the easiest way to make a file on HDD appear as a block device as a /dev/sdX ?
[19:40] <xenux> I don't understand why liveUSB doesn't suggest installed OS
[19:41] <quard> or /dev/mapper/xxx
[19:41] <geirha> quard: you can use losetup to make a block device for a file
[19:42] <quard> losetup doesn't work, the block device does not appear in the installer
[19:42] <quard> I think dmsetup needs to be used
[19:42] <genii> quard: Is the file a hard drive image with partitions?
[19:43] <quard> I made an empty file with dd, it's 512MB large and located inside /tmp that is mounted as tmpfs
[19:44] <quard> doing losetup /dev/loop0 /tmp/file.img will not make the device to appear in ubuntu installer
[19:45] <quard> I've tried "mknod /dev/sdx b 7 200" and then losetup the image to that device, but it didn't work either
[19:46] <quard> any ideas? I just want a blank device to temporary install the /boot partition on it.
[19:49] <aviral> join /hangout
[19:49] <Night___> is it just me or is outout from ifconfig cleaner than ip
[19:49] <ducasse> quard: then i think you need to make an actual block device, a partition or logical volume would be the easiest.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> aviral  it's   /j #hangouts
[19:50] <aviral> yeah , typo :p
[19:50] <aviral> MonkeyDust thanks :)
[19:52] <quard> how do I make "an actual block device"?
[19:53] <genii> man makedev
[19:54] <ducasse> or just make an empty partition
[19:55] <notadeveloper> ;p
[19:56] <quard> is mknod different from makedev?
[20:02] <rogier> dQw4w9WgXcQ, i like Xe better ;)
[20:02] <dQw4w9WgXcQ> rogier: this nick is never gonna give you up
[20:03] <rogier> aawww
[20:03] <rogier> :)
[20:03] <acheron-a> merci!
[20:03] <rogier> never gonna let me down
[20:03] <dQw4w9WgXcQ> rogier: i mean literally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[20:04] <rogier> dQw4w9WgXcQ rolled
[20:05] <rogier> ehm.. rick rolled
[20:05] <genii> Please save the silliness for #ubuntu-offtopic so we can keep this channel clear for supporting users
[20:05] <ooko0> what
[20:05] <rogier> genii.. sure thing :)
[20:06] <rogier> but a little fun when there aren't any questions asked.. is not that problematic i presume?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> quard: What is your end goal?
[20:06] <genii> rogier: That's why I let it go on for a bit before remarking.
[20:07] <rogier> genii: ok :)
[20:07] <quard> Jordan_U: Install ubuntu on an encrypted HDD (including /boot)
[20:08] <quard> ubiquity complains that /boot is encrypted and refuses to continue, wants an unencrypted /boot. So I am trying to give it one.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> quard: Can you temporarily put /boot/ on a USB drive, to later move it back into your root filesystem?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> quard: Is this a BIOS or UEFI based install? Why do you care about /boot/ being encrypted? There shouldn't be anything secret in /boot/.
[20:10] <quard> Jordan_U: I anticipated that answer. The shotr answer is yes I can, but I won't. The long answer is that I'm going to write a tutorial about this and I can't expect every reader to have an extra USB key handy. So I am trying to avoid using any extra devices.
[20:10] <quard> It's BIOS.
[20:11] <quard> short*
[20:11] <Jordan_U> quard: Why do you want /boot/ to be encrypted? Do you have a plan for getting past having to enter your LUKS password twice, once for grub and again for linux?
[20:13] <quard> that's my next task, and I've already read both articles by Pavel.
[20:13] <quard> arch and mint ^^
[20:13] <Jordan_U> quard: Might make more sense to install via debootstrap.
[20:13] <quard> also, there's this: http://dustymabe.com/2015/07/06/encrypting-more-boot-joins-the-party/
[20:14] <quard> hmm
[20:15] <quard> I never thought ubiquity would be so much trouble
[20:17] <Jordan_U> quard: I also still don't see any advantage to encrypting /boot/. Encrypting keeps things secret. Everything in /boot/ should be publicly available in Ubuntu's repositories. Despite what some people think, encrypting /boot/ doesn't prevent someone from modifying the bootloader to record your password and do whatever it wants with it (if they get physical access to the computer, or root access remotely).
[20:18] <quard> bootloader will be moved to the flash rom as a coreboot payload.
[20:18] <Gryfelhas> hi folks, I'm using xubuntu 16.04 and i'm unable to change time and date with the date command (as root) ... it immedatly changes it back to the correct time. Any ideas ? Can't find an ntp-client via dpkg -l |grep ntp
[20:20] <quard> Jordan_U: And you're right about something. There is no security without physical security.
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Gryfelhas: Please pastebin the output of "timedatectl".
[20:22] <ppf> alkisg: just did, same error
[20:22] <ppf> (sorry i missed you reply)
[20:23] <Gryfelhas> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/ZMVNjY7c    ok, I see it uses ntp
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Gryfelhas: See "man timedatectl" for how to turn off NTP, but why do you want your date to be wrong?
[20:24] <ppf> ls: cannot access '/media/usb': Transport endpoint is not connected
[20:25] <Gryfelhas> Jordan_U: thx I already read the manpage - Just for a test
[20:35] <XxXorsXxX> heyy
[20:35] <XxXorsXxX> ??
[20:35] <ChaiTRex> XxXorsXxX: !!
[20:35] <ppf> there's no error regarding usb or fs in dmesg/syslog
[20:36] <XxXorsXxX> you speak turksh ?
[20:36] <ppf> how do i debug this ..
[20:36] <ppf> !turkey | XxXorsXxX
[20:43] <BlitzerHound> So I'm having the bug described in this page... anyone have any ideas on how to fix it? I don't see any solutions yet. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openarena/+bug/1651561
[20:43] <ScottyK> Greetings! On 16.04, how do you "disable" the top menu bar on a second monitor? I've got full screen applicaitons on the second monitor, and when I try to close them, the menu bar keeps activating. Thanks!
[20:44] <BlitzerHound> My specific issue tells me in terminal that "RE_Shutdown( 1 ) OpenAL capture device closed."
[20:45] <BlitzerHound> Also, it only happens when I try to join a map.
[20:45] <BlitzerHound> And the last bit of info is that my system is an inspiron b120 laptop
[20:47] <ppf> alkisg: so, i think you might've been partially right
[20:47] <ppf> i've just unistalled usbmount, works fine now.
[20:48] <ppf> i believe usbmount was kind of 'half-mounting' the disk, so i couldn't get it to fully mount
[20:52] <sere84> how can i add packages to a install cd minimal install to be exact. i remember reading something about a program but cant find it
[20:52] <sergi> hola
[20:53] <sergi> como instalo office word 2010
[20:53] <implite> BlitzerHound: is this your problem also? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openarena/+bug/1678320
[20:54] <BlitzerHound> Yeah, that one's more closely related since the terminal output seems nearly identical to mine.
[20:54] <BlitzerHound> Also more related since my problem also occurs when I push 'play'
[20:55] <implite> ok, that might be the main issue. this guy reported it as a bug 23 hours ago
[21:23] <thesushimanoftao> hello room back again with some new challenges regarding this ssd drive using studio 14.04
[21:23] <thesushimanoftao> am using the ultimate boot cd
[21:24] <thesushimanoftao> it finds sda2
[21:24] <bekks> thesushimanoftao: how do you search for sda2 et al?
[21:24] <thesushimanoftao> file manager
[21:25] <thesushimanoftao> exit status 1 is the mounting error
[21:25] <bekks> thesushimanoftao: In the file manager, you should not see a partition, but a mounted file system.
[21:26] <thesushimanoftao> using the ultimateboot cd
[21:27] <thesushimanoftao> i can drop into livecd for studio if that will work better
[21:29] <thesushimanoftao> can i pm you bekks?
[21:29] <bekks> thesushimanoftao: No nee to do so.
[21:29] <thesushimanoftao> ok
[21:29] <bekks> *need
[21:30] <thesushimanoftao> so i am now running gparted
[21:30] <thesushimanoftao> it is scanning
[21:31] <thesushimanoftao> my original setup was an internal ssd (120) with an external 2tb
[21:31] <thesushimanoftao> this morning when i could not get livecd to see the ssd i replaced it with a 1tb and installed fresh
[21:31] <thesushimanoftao> i have now reconnected the ssd on a different SATA port with different cable
[21:32] <thesushimanoftao> and the new install went to a prompt rather than completing boot
[21:32] <thesushimanoftao> i brought out my tructy ultimate boot cd
[21:32] <thesushimanoftao> and now am running gparted
[21:37] <Night___> Hmm strange hsts preload is not respected in bundled ff 17.04 beta 2. Even with site added  to hsts preload list and forward from 80 to 443. All I get is a bin file download. But works after I manually type https one time
[21:38] <OerHeks> Night___, report this in #ubuntu+1
[21:39] <thesushimanoftao> just switched to livecd
[21:39] <thesushimanoftao> ata4 softreset error
[21:39] <thesushimanoftao> continuing livecd boot
[21:42] <Night___> Thank you oerherk
[21:43] <m3n3chm0> any clue ?
[21:43] <m3n3chm0> https://nopaste.me/view/619468a8
[21:45] <thesushimanoftao> bekks you still with me
[21:45] <thesushimanoftao> just finished boot with livecd
[21:45] <thesushimanoftao> running gparted it does not find sdd drive
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> thesushimanoftao  in a terminal, type   lsblk -f
[21:48] <OerHeks> thesushimanoftao, nothing ubuntu can do about failing hardware
[21:48] <thesushimanoftao> i understand oerheks, i wish i could confirm
[21:49] <thesushimanoftao> monkey it found sda and sro'
[21:49] <Bashing-om> thesushimanoftao: Does bios even see the SSD ?
[21:49] <thesushimanoftao> yes
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> thesushimanoftao  paste the outcome here, to show it to the channel ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:50] <notmike> I've now installed Ubuntu in VirtualBox at least twice (with and without LVM or Grub). Each time install completes, the system terms, reboots, and I just get a blank screen with _
[21:50] <notmike> wtf
[21:52] <thesushimanoftao> paste.ubuntu.com/24295222
[21:52] <compdoc> notmike, havent used VB in a long time, but can you assign video ram or change the type of video card for the guest?
[21:53] <notmike> yeah
[21:53] <bekks> compdoc: you can adjust the VRAM size but you cannot change the type.
[21:53] <compdoc> how much vram does it get now?
[21:54] <notmike> 32
[21:54] <compdoc> thats better than I would have thought
[21:54] <notmike> 4gb memory, 25gb dynamic disk
[21:55] <notmike> The shit had all the resources it should have ever needed for a simple install.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> notmike  mind your language
[21:55] <OerHeks> 128 minimum
[21:55] <notmike> And I don't imagine VirtualBox created the vm wrong (its pretty self explanatory)
[21:55] <compdoc> I dont know lvm well enough. I always use entire disk. create one data partition and one swap partition
[21:56] <notmike> that's what i did
[21:56] <compdoc> *it creates
[21:56] <notmike> install finished fine
[21:56] <notmike> it just doesn't boot now
[21:56] <compdoc> this the the standard 64bit desktop ubuntu? what version?
[21:56] <compdoc> *ias the
[21:57] <notmike> 16.04.02
[21:57] <compdoc> my fav :)
[21:57] <notmike> 64-bit Ubuntu Server
[21:57] <compdoc> the host is Server?
[21:57] <compdoc> or the guest
[21:59] <notmike> the virtualmachine is running ubuntu server
[22:00] <notmike> and when install reboots I just get this http://imgur.com/a/7uJvR
[22:05] <jaco_____> Hello everone
[22:05] <azx> how come when i try to extract some rar files with package manager through the gui, it gives me an error?
[22:05] <azx> and when i try to copy something to an external drive, i get read only error
[22:06] <jaco_____> permisions
[22:06] <jaco_____> chnmod maybe
[22:12] <ChaiTRex> azx: What error?
[22:13] <ChaiTRex> azx: (on Package Manager extraction of RAR)
[22:20] <Jens2000> Hello, i'm trying to make a bootable Ubuntu USB, but i can't get it to work. I'm using a USB stick that contained a bootable Windows setup before .. so it can't be the USB stick itself. Any help?
[22:20] <Tatou> curl -s 'http://www.bing.com/HPImageArchive.aspx?format=js&idx=0&n=1&mkt=en-GB' | jq -r '.images[0].url'
[22:20] <Tatou> Given that line - how do I then download that url? I cannot see a way to do so..
[22:20] <Tatou> Or even assign the result to a variable
[22:21] <katakaio> Jens2000: What OS are you trying to make the bootable USB stick on?
[22:21] <Jens2000> katakaio - On Windows 7
[22:21] <notmike> eI'll show you mine if you show me urs.
[22:21] <Tatou> Jens2000: I had a similar issue the other day.. I change to using rufus iirc
[22:21] <wedgie> var="$(curl ...)"
[22:21] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Jens2000
[22:21] <katakaio> Jens2000: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:21] <wedgie> or   curl "$(curl ...)"
[22:22] <notmike> I guess I needed to install Grub.
[22:22] <Tatou> sweet, thanks wedgie .. I'll be reading a bash book soon <_<
[22:22] <Jens2000> I tried Rufus ( among some other tools ) and it didn't work. When trying to boot my PC from USB it simply said something like the drive isn't bootable.
[22:22] <wedgie> Tatou: some super sharp people in #bash. and a good guide in the topic as well
[22:23] <Jens2000> ubottu - One of the other tools i tried verified the ISO checksum, and it said it was correct.
[22:23] <Jens2000> ubottu - Oops :-P
[22:23] <jq> Womp, my nick gets highlighted way too much
[22:24] <wedgie> jq: thats what you get for being a json parser :P
[22:24] <jq> Lol
[22:25] <Tatou> thanks wedgie .. I'll have to do that :x
[22:27] <doge-doge> hey guys, quick support question, basically since luks takes up a large portion of /boot, how do old kernels get auto-removed to prevent /boot from overflowing when updating the system?
[22:28] <doge-doge> the old kernels do indeed to get marked as "autoremovable" in synaptic, do you just need to run this command periodically?
[22:29] <doge-doge> i usually check up on the free space whenever a new kernel is installed by doing a "df -h |grep boot"
[22:29] <ikonia> what is it you're actually asking here ?
[22:30] <jackson435> Hey guys. When I log onto the irc server I get this error "* Can't open log file(s) for writing. Check the
[22:30] <jackson435> permissions on /home/jackson/.config/hexchat/logs/NETWORK/server.log" I believe it has to do with my permissions,
[22:30] <doge-doge> is there an automatic mechanism by which old kernels get removed in /boot so it doesn't overflow when you update the system?
[22:30] <jackson435> anyone able to help me remove it
[22:30] <Bashing-om> doge-doge: Yepper : enabling autoremove in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades .
[22:31] <doge-doge> I believe that's enabled by selecting "download and install security updates manually"
[22:31] <ikonia> doge-doge: it used to do kernel n-1 as an install hook, but for someone unknown reason that was removed, so you need to use the autoremove to keep on top of it
[22:31] <ikonia> you can use the unattended-upgrades file as Bashing-om suggested, I'm not personally convinced it's a mature enough solution yet
[22:31] <maddawg2> isnt that what 'apt-get autoremove' is for?
[22:31] <doge-doge> but I'm used to simply updating via the cmd line sudo apt upgrade, which I think bypasses unattended-upgrades
[22:31] <Didact69> is there a gui to look at my Hard disks, specifically I want to mount my 3tb drive
[22:32] <ikonia> maddawg2: yes, but the point is should you really have to manually run that for a software package set that is cumulative
[22:32] <ikonia> doge-doge: it dosn't bypass it
[22:32] <ikonia> Didact69: the default file manager
[22:32] <maddawg2> ikonia i agree
[22:32] <doge-doge> i'm curious how this doesn't affect more people since we're talking about a manual intervention here?
[22:33] <maddawg2> i got bit in the ass the other day by it
[22:33] <doge-doge> although I do believe /boot is 512MB by defualt and that fits a lot of kernel images, maybe 20-30
[22:33] <ikonia> doge-doge: most people size boot to an appropriate size for the lifecycle of their install - or come here complaining they are out of space
[22:33] <doge-doge> hahah
[22:33] <maddawg2> yea like me
[22:33] <maddawg2> lol
[22:33] <ikonia> 500mb is not 20 kernels
[22:34] <maddawg2> i should increase my size
[22:34] <doge-doge> well w/e the num ber
[22:34] <OerHeks> one does backups, one does cleanups..
[22:34] <ikonia> OerHeks: sadly that is not the norm for people
[22:34] <maddawg2> i got like 96TB to blow might as well give my /boot some size
[22:34] <doge-doge> esp. if you need to bring in firmware and headers, along with the main kernel images...they also fit into /boot
[22:34] <Didact69> ok, I 've got a drive that mounted, and I don't know where it's mounted it's called 3tb
[22:34] <OerHeks> ikonia, wet from moore, 1 backup is not enough these days
[22:34] <ikonia> doge-doge: no they don't
[22:34] <ikonia> doge-doge: they go in /lib
[22:35] <doge-doge> idk, have to check for sure
[22:35] <maddawg2> Didact69, how do you know it's mounted?
[22:35] <ikonia> doge-doge: it goes into /lib
[22:35] <doge-doge> oh wow, so for an aveage kernel size of 70MB, that only fits ~7 images?
[22:35] <Didact69> the file manager say it is and I can click unmount
[22:36] <ikonia> doge-doge: easy solution put an @reboot task in cron apt-get autoremove -y
[22:36] <ikonia> it's not what it should be but it will work
[22:37] <Didact69> ok, I looked at the mtab
[22:37] <doge-doge> we gotta be carefull about running autoremove too since things like vlc can easily be marked as removable if things like rythmbox is uninstalled or some silly thing
[22:37] <maddawg2> Didact69, in the command prompt you could do a 'df -h'
[22:37] <ikonia> doge-doge: not really only if it's orphaned
[22:37] <maddawg2> it should list all drives
[22:37] <ikonia> and if it's orphaned, you don't want it on the system
[22:37] <maddawg2> and i believe it shows the mount points too
[22:37] <Didact69> yeah, it does, now I need to decide where I want it to automount
[22:38] <maddawg2> put it in /mnt
[22:38] <Didact69> hmmm
[22:38] <Didact69> ok
[22:38] <doge-doge> ikonia, i like that cron suggestion but again I want to absolutely make sure I know what i'm autoremoving before running the cmd
[22:39] <doge-doge> dry-runs
[22:39] <maddawg2> that's what  /mnt is for
[22:39] <maddawg2> lol
[22:39] <olmari> I don't knoe is this question for ubuntu or ubuntu-dev but... I got weird problem with network-manager or more deep... it basically says "device not managed" for every dvice I have and I have exhausted the usuals.. having no /etc/interfaces/network conf, or having auto, NM related.. "looked all internet" but still no go
[22:39] <Didact69> yeah, that makes sense
[22:40] <Didact69> how do I find out it's unique id ?
[22:40] <ikonia> olmari: how many devices do you have ?
[22:40] <olmari> I did install ubuntu "trough" debootstap basically (ZFS) and that is the diffirnece... but it is not ZFSW problem itself, it comes if doing similar setup with ext4 too
[22:40] <olmari> ikonia: wlan, wired and mobile
[22:41] <olmari> plain normal GUI install those work, so..
[22:41] <ikonia> why did you install it through debootstrap
[22:41] <ikonia> as oppposed to a normal installer routine
[22:41] <olmari> ikonia: because can't install onto ZFS root without
[22:41] <ikonia> what does the syslog show network manager doing with the interfaces at boot time
[22:42] <olmari> ikonia: let's (try to) see
[22:42] <ikonia> olmari: have yoy actually looked at the syslog yet ?
[22:43] <olmari> ikonia: at some point yes, figured I'd dig this again now :)
[22:44] <olmari> ikonia: the thing is, I don't see anything really failing there relating NetworkManager
[22:45] <ikonia> I'm not looking for a failure
[22:45] <ikonia> I'm looking for what the syslog says network manager is doing with the interfaces
[22:46] <olmari> ikonia: I'll pastebin
[22:46] <ikonia> don't need a pastebin
[22:46] <ikonia> just human summary of what it's doing
[22:49] <olmari> well one oopsie I do see "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files", before NM starting even comes... then it does find all devices (so them existing isn't the prob), loads plugins etc.. all normal stuff basically...
[22:50] <ikonia> are you trying to use the network manager applet, or the network manager command line
[22:50] <olmari> applet
[22:51] <ikonia> olmari: verify from the command line
[22:51] <ikonia> the applet is not network manager, it's an interface to it
[22:51] <ikonia> you need to know what the problem is
[22:51] <olmari> ikonia: well I could try, never tried that really... :)
[22:52] <Didact69> how do u save stuff in nano ?
[22:52] <dn1987p> ctrl + o
[22:52] <Didact69> ah, ty, guess write out = save
[22:53] <olmari> ikonia: all devices "unmanaged" as figured earlier, tough done everything internet suggest to remedy that, still no :D
[22:54] <OerHeks>  olmari is this on a laptop? some have a FN key to turn wifi on
[22:54] <olmari> OerHeks: yes, and it is.. but also affects wired
[22:55] <olmari> all interfaces works when fiddling manually (well 3g-modem too should I know connect.scdripts, but anyway, hardware is enabled)
[22:56] <ikonia> olmari: what network manager command line did you run
[22:56] <olmari> I'd need to figure out what in earth does "normal" ubuntu install do that debootstarp method doesn't.. (ie base CLI, from there "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop") doesn't
[22:56] <olmari> ikonia: nmcli d to show devices
[22:57] <ikonia> olmari: if you run "nmcli device status" what do you get
[22:58] <WACOMalt> hey guys. How can I fix this issue with dependencies on my locales when trying to install tmux? https://pastebin.com/Q35vgvhz
[22:58] <WACOMalt> and when I do apt-get -f install I get this: https://pastebin.com/Lf7HfmgX
[22:58] <olmari> ikonia: same output basically.. listing of every network device and all unmanaged
[22:59] <olmari> WACOMalt: done apt-get update first?
[22:59] <ikonia> olmari: what version of ubuntu is it ??
[22:59] <Guest19292> Hi
[23:00] <WACOMalt> yes olmari
[23:00] <olmari> ikonia: 16.10 "fresh" install, issue was also in 16.04
[23:00] <ikonia> olmari: pastebin /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[23:00] <Guest19292> Hi all, I have a question about use case diagram, Is there anyone can answer me?
[23:00] <ikonia> olmari: I think I know why this may be happening
[23:02] <Guest19292> Ok, My question is  I have an actor does many acts on one thing.g add book info, edit book info, remove book info. The question is, in use case diagram it is must write each action in a oval shape alone or I can put all action which are related with one thing in one oval shape like this add/edit/remove book info .
[23:03] <Guest19292> * Ok, My question is If I have an actor does many acts on one thing e.g add book info, edit book info, remove book info. The question is, in use case diagram it is must write each action in a oval shape alone or I can put all action which are related with one thing in one oval shape like this add/edit/remove book info .
[23:03] <ikonia> Guest19292: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:03] <ikonia> (and therefore nothing to do with this cahnnel)
[23:03] <ikonia> channel even
[23:03] <olmari> ikonia: https://p.kapsi.fi/?e3d319b157eb1bf6#vXk6hRbCUp0+S2LAK5N67leN2M53zPQtabuJHpUS0Hc=
[23:05] <ikonia> olmari: interesting, I expected the managed flag to be in main
[23:05] <ikonia> I'm not sure if thats right/wrong for 16.10
[23:06] <olmari> ikonia: well... I could try to put it there too, should that be it :D
[23:07] <olmari> no diffirence :P
[23:07] <ikonia> olmari: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1638842
[23:08] <ikonia> thats pretty much the same bug that debootstrap would cause
[23:09] <olmari> ikonia: hmm... might be onto something there
[23:11] <jackson435> Hey guys, getting this message when I connect to IRC. Anyone able to help me get rid of it?  Can't open log file(s) for writing. Check the
[23:11] <jackson435> permissions on /home/jackson/.config/hexchat/logs/NETWORK/server.log
[23:12] <dn1987p> well maybe check the permissions on that file ^^
[23:12] <olmari> ikonia: thit that was it!
[23:13] <ikonia> olmari: excellent
[23:13] <olmari> ikonia: a damned big thank you
[23:13] <ikonia> not a problem
[23:13] <Tatou> Silly question - if I specify a cron to run every 2 hours, but reboot my machine every 1 hour .. wiill it ever run?
[23:14] <dn1987p> if your machine is running at the point of time specified for the cronjob, it should
[23:14] <olmari> ikonia: "won't fix" is kind of stupid resolution there... or well maybe more of broader thing than that... because method of installing ubuntu desktop shouldn't IMHO affect this, even if the explanation there would be correct in itself
[23:14] <Tatou> But the cron is specifed for every 2 hours, dn1987p
[23:14] <Tatou> When does that 2 hour start? is the question..
[23:16] <dn1987p> Tatou,  depends how its specified
[23:16] <olmari> Tatou: AFAIK in general it will... as it is fixed to clock, not counting uptime... tough ofcourse if machine is not on when cronjob should be executed, then not
[23:17] <dn1987p> 0 */2 * * * script.sh would run at 2:00 4:00 etc
[23:17] <Tatou> ok, that will do.. It's a shame that cron itself doesn't have the same options as in windows
[23:18] <Tatou> Where you can say "run at next possible time if missed"
[23:18] <ikonia> it does that
[23:18] <ikonia> you set it it to run every 2 hours
[23:18] <ikonia> it will run at the next 2 hour window if missed
[23:19] <olmari> Tatou: http://serverfault.com/questions/52335/job-scheduling-using-crontab-what-will-happen-when-computer-is-shutdown-during has more info
[23:19] <ikonia> olmari: maybe worth re-opening that bug with your views on it
[23:19] <Tatou> Sure, ikonia .. But if I miss it by 1 min it will not do it for another 119 minutes
[23:19] <ikonia> the installing from an unsuported method is a valid reason not to fix it, but I don't think the root of it is the install method
[23:19] <ikonia> Tatou: because you tell it to
[23:20] <dn1987p> Tatou, check out the link and look for anacron
[23:20] <ikonia> that is the point of a time based scheuduler, not a task based one
[23:20] <olmari> ikonia: exactly, like few of those posters did kind of say too :)
[23:20] <Tatou> dn1987p: I'm looking it up :-)
[23:20] <Tatou> sigh, sometimes I despair at the state of puppet modules.. Anacron on ubuntu is a nogo
[23:21] <ikonia> anacron is nothing to do with puppet
[23:21] <Tatou> No, but I deploy this stuff through puppet
[23:22] <ikonia> you can deploy anacron jobs via puppet just fine
[23:22] <ikonia> it even has a resource for it
[23:22] <Tatou> I'm not seeing this resource
[23:22] <olmari> ikonia: maybe I will reopen it even... reasoning is flawed... true server is not likely wanted "all of the sudden wanted t ohave NM doing stuff", but installing ubuntu-desktop is kind of exactly what user wants to do when doing that... :D
[23:22] <Tatou> I see cron
[23:23] <ikonia> I think you have to inculde the anacron module - which defines the resource
[23:23] <ikonia> you just don't have to use the module
[23:23] <Tatou> heh, I just find it easier to manage state via puppet
[23:23] <Tatou> But puppet modules can be so hit and miss..
[23:24] <Tatou> Regardless, anacron looks like it's a worthwile read :-)
[23:25] <Tatou> as-is I schedule daily jobs @ 9pm, when I will more than liekly be on
[23:26] <olmari> ikonia: can I reopen it even? or "just" add comments
[23:26] <ikonia> just add the command
[23:26] <olmari> ikonia: well it is marked as dupe of newer bug which is still open
[23:27] <ikonia> olmari: good spot, get on that bug
[23:27] <olmari> confirmed :)
[23:27] <olmari> that status :)
[23:29] <rizonz> is there love around ?
[23:29] <olmari> only nerdy klingon kind of love
[23:30] <rizonz> olmari: we need to hug
[23:31] <rizonz> asap!
[23:31] <bazhang> rizonz, please chatter elsewhere
[23:31] <rizonz> bazhang: IRC is love is needed
[23:31] <bazhang> rizonz, this is ubuntu support only
[23:32] <rizonz> bazhang: ubuntu is lovely so needs sweet support
[23:32] <rizonz> when someone has an issue and is in a bad mood he first needs hugs
[23:32] <bazhang> rizonz, #ubuntu-offtopic , NOT here
[23:33] <rizonz> bazhang: okidoki
[23:42] <fred911> I need help getting ALSA to add HDMI surround 5.1 as an available profile, any help here?
[23:43] <YopPeople> hello everyone, i want to make an arcade with my old computer with 1Mo ram and a poor graphic card (1To memory, useless but that's all I have) and I would like to know which distribution of *buntu is the best to just execute the game users will launch and take care of as little as possible of the rest and which graphical interface i have to choose ? If you have some ideas to help me, your welcome. thanks !
[23:45] <tacomaster> Does ubuntu support secureboot with out tweaking anything from a fresh install?
[23:46] <PipeItToDevNull> Yes
[23:46] <olmari> tacomaster: yes
[23:49] <OerHeks> well, you need a efi partition... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:52] <OverrRyde> hi everyone, quick question: if i need VNC access to my headless server, do i need X11VNC or Tight/TigerVNC? i am a little confused!
[23:54] <fred911> OverrRyde: I'd just install Remmina it should have what you need
[23:54] <OerHeks> headless ..
[23:55] <OverrRyde> i forgot to mention, i would need to be able to have have this launched prior to logging in and at boot
[23:56] <OerHeks> yes, ofcourse you do need that. you need a graphical login to your headless server before logging in on your machine, got ya.
[23:57] <olmari> OverrRyde: is there specific reason for VNC specifically isntead of SSH?
[23:58] <olmari> I do know many VPS providers also offers VNC connection to console, but that isn't what was asked really... but VNC to headless isn't totally out of the question, just not normally needed or used stuff really
[23:58] <OverrRyde> hmmm well i do use SSH for maintenance on the server, but would like to be able to use a virtual GUI for playing around, this is a home file server/web server for my own files/site
[23:59] <ubuntu-mate> hi, didnt use linux for 4 years now. what did i miss since the war of the desktop environments?
[23:59] <PipeItToDevNull> OverrRyde, you can pass X over SSH
[23:59] <PipeItToDevNull> ubuntu-mate, XFCE won
[23:59] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, try in ##linux or the chat channel
[23:59] <olmari> OverrRyde: well if you want headless server to hae GUI then you do need some form of windowmanager etc, just like locally would
[23:59] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic ubuntu-mate