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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:43
KnightPh0nemorning08:47
penguin42Three's 'wunto' app logo is very confusing - the logo is interestingly curved and reminds me of hte early Ubuntu15:36
marshmnOT: anyone have a recommendation for ADSL router?17:35
marshmnmine seems to be playing up these days so I think it's time for a change...17:35
daftykinsmarshmn: you really still on ADSL? not VDSL etc18:34
penguin421daftykins: It's not available everywhere18:35
daftykinsi know.18:35
penguin421daftykins: I can get ADSL here or cable but no vdsl18:35
daftykinsreason i ask is it wouldn't be worth buying the former if there's even a chance of change in the future18:36
penguin421daftykins: well if you actually want some bits you may as well buy something to get you some bits18:37
daftykinsi don't get what you're saying, you can either buy fixed ADSL only cheap devices or ones capable of both now, so i say make sure it's capable of both :)18:39
marshmnI'm on ADSL right now18:39
daftykinsnothing else in your area?18:39
marshmnI could probably get VDSL18:39
marshmnI've not looked into it18:39
daftykinswouldn't hurt to just check before buying something18:39
marshmnmaybe18:39
penguin421daftykins: I know people in areas where the VDSL is so bad it's not much better than ADSL18:39
daftykinsdo you rely solely on the router for the whole house too, or do you have any cabled infrastructure or other access points?18:40
daftykinspenguin421: well it solely depends on line length, i still think it's better to have a device capable of both - i don't think you're really adding anything to this topic18:40
marshmnI only have a small flat, so it's not really much of a problem for things like that18:40
daftykinsah right, single device only then would probably do18:40
marshmnyes18:40
daftykinshttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Connections-UK-Archer-VR400/dp/B01LFGTEI6/18:41
daftykinsthis one would probably be cheap and cheerful enough18:41
daftykinsi've put in the N600 only variant previously for a rented out house, supports both xDSL technologies too18:41
penguin421daftykins: It's not just line length, it's also how bad the line is - like whether it's some second rate twisted piece of corroding alumnium through a swamp with 200 other lines cuddling up to it over an arcing electrical connection and a squirrel18:42
marshmndaftykins: OK, thanks18:42
daftykinspenguin421: yes my whole island uses solely it and i resolve the issues myself, please stop with the stating the obvious18:42
penguin421daftykins: OK, it's just I know a few friends who theoretically should be able to get great VDSL and have a disaster of a connection18:43
daftykins*nod* i'm sure there are service checkers over there to work out how far you are from your exchange, and local knowledge to know if you're in one of the nasty copper coated aluminium or worse spots18:43
diddledandaftykins: get BT broadband because they provide their best ever wireless conenction when you get their fixed-line.18:44
* diddledan mumbles about stupid adverts18:44
daftykins;)18:44
daftykinsthankfully no BT down here18:44
penguin421diddledan: Have you tried it dangling out of a helicopter?18:44
penguin421daftykins: yeh you see that's your advantage18:45
diddledanand the one I saw tonight which gets stupid points is "good entertainment requires amazing wifi. virgin fibre broadband."18:45
* penguin421 still moans it's not fibre18:45
diddledanyeah, there's the whole coax is not fibre too, but fixed line has no effect on the quality of my wifi18:46
daftykinsheh yeah, also they all seem to toss around 'MB' in their literature18:46
penguin421nod18:46
diddledandaftykins: 100MegaBytes per Second?!18:47
diddledan:-o18:47
daftykinsweird quirk i've identified with the xbox one bluray player app, it dims the screen during playback of one disc of a TV series after ~12 minutes, but doesn't do it to a movie title18:48
daftykinsbrb18:49
marshmnthe main issue I'm having with my current router is that it seems to keep randomly switching into "AP isolation" mode and not letting any WiFi clients talk to each other even though they can all connect out18:52
marshmnwhat fun.18:52
* penguin421 really likes using wires19:00
daftykinsmarshmn: that used to be a specific option mmm, does it actually have one and toggle it - or does the behaviour just change?19:07
marshmnthere is an option - it just doesn't seem to do much19:07
marshmnor rather, it works ok for a while after a reboot...19:08
marshmnand then at some point stops letting things talk to each other19:08
marshmnthe option remains in its 'disabled' state19:08
daftykinshave you gone as far as a full factory reset? if so, sounds like game over time19:09
marshmndaftykins: yeah, been there and tried that19:18
daftykinsyep sounds like a flaky piece o' kit then :>19:18
daftykinsit's annoying how subtly they go wrong19:18
zmoylan-pithat's why hammers were invented... :-)19:23
m0nkey_daftykins is bothering Louis again21:33
daftykins:D21:33
daftykinsand he copped out! he's just staying sick instead of fixing things! ;)21:33
daftykinsi dunno why he persists with these GPU replacements, he doesn't even like them himself XD21:34
m0nkey_it pays the bills21:34
m0nkey_Now, do I want to buy a 1TB SSD?21:34
daftykinsnah he has refused to do them for the last x number of years because it doesn't work, he only started recently because his pal said there was a good set of chips to buy that work - but they don't :D21:35
daftykinserr for what?21:35
m0nkey_My computer. I'm low on space21:35
daftykinsbest combo is really still SSD for OS and mechanical for data, if it's a machine that can take one of each21:35
m0nkey_I have spinning disks in my NAS21:36
m0nkey_But it's not fast enough for what I want21:36
daftykinsor add a second SSD for games21:36
m0nkey_The second SSD is for my Steam library21:36
daftykinsja same, well plus the other game platforms21:36
daftykinsi still keep a local spinner for a copy of my music collection as well as my file server21:37
m0nkey_I never bought a spinning disk for this PC :)21:37
m0nkey_I thought 500GB would be enough21:37
daftykinsso what are you running out on, the games one? i've filled my 512GB games SSD pretty easily21:37
m0nkey_I have a 500GB used as my single drive in my PC21:38
m0nkey_But most of that 500GB is Steam21:38
m0nkey_I'd say a good 80% :)21:38
zmoylan-pibetter cooling to condense the data? :-P21:38
m0nkey_lol21:38
daftykinsyeah you want to separate those roles :P21:39
m0nkey_$350 is a lot to swallow for a SSD! lol21:39
daftykinswell you're trying to put it all on one drive, which is ridiculous21:41
zmoylan-piprice is coming down though, so there's that...21:41
m0nkey_lol21:42
m0nkey_This will be a second SSD21:42
daftykinsright but it would've been better to have 2+ already :>21:42
m0nkey_lol21:43
daftykinsi have my OS on M.2 and the games on a spare old SATA SSD21:43
daftykinsas in, M.2 PCIe SSD21:43
m0nkey_sold21:45
m0nkey_I'm considering this purchase as payback for the wife going to Cuba this week21:46
daftykins:O and you didn't even get asked to carry the bags?21:46
m0nkey_No, I had to do that21:47
m0nkey_lol, looks like her flight has been delayed21:47
m0nkey_muhahaha21:47
daftykinsoooh burn21:47
m0nkey_Just had an update, plane is delayed because people have been asked to leave the plane and they're having to get their luggage.21:50
daftykinsthey must be wearing leggings21:51
daftykins;)21:51
zmoylan-pino no jeggings... for this jet age...21:52
daftykinsah har21:53
diddledanm0nkey_: why she going to cuba?21:56
zmoylan-pifor the broadband...21:56
daftykinsfor the cigars!21:57
zmoylan-piand a bottle of rum...21:57
m0nkey_Sent her to buy me a bottle of rum21:57
daftykins:D21:58
daftykinsi didn't even know there was anything about cuba and rum21:58
daftykinsmmm paella time22:01
m0nkey_Looks like the plane has pushed back and is taxing22:13
* m0nkey_ loves flightradar24.com22:13
zmoylan-pitaxing... trying everyones nerves then... :-P22:14
daftykinsmrs.m0nkey doesn't have to be taxing!22:14
daftykinshmm i wonder if that guy is still around, the one that did those history programs whilst cycling around on a yellow and pink bike22:15
m0nkey_*taxiing :P22:15
daftykinsAdam Hart Davis22:15
daftykins"He also appeared in TV advertisements for HM Revenue & Customs with the catchphrase "tax doesn't have to be taxing". Following a statement from Hart-Davis, in which he mentioned the level of complexities within the UK tax system, his contract with HM Revenue & Customs ended."22:16
daftykinsXD22:16
daftykinsm0nkey_: ooh those melted balls... (Louis)22:24
m0nkey_lol22:25
daftykinsthat was neat hw22:25
daftykins*how you could see them melt then the chip glide into place22:25
daftykinsi'm... kind of confused by that result22:40
m0nkey_Wife's flight has departed22:42
daftykinsi heard that sigh from here ;)22:42
m0nkey_Only 2 hours late :)22:42

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