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OerHeksubuntu-mate, ABBA split up.00:00
OverrRydeolmari: i do believe everything is setup for it, it did not install the server version of ubuntu, xfce has actually been installed as well00:00
jackson435dn1987p: I cannot figure out how to check the permissions on it. I can't even find the file lol00:05
nktnhey, how do I start tmux from cli with 3 panels and a specific layout?00:05
PipeItToDevNullnktn, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5609192/how-to-set-up-tmux-so-that-it-starts-up-with-specified-windows-opened00:07
lerneri just copied a file, 5GB, from an external hdd usb 3 to my home dir. Usb 3 just gave me 40MBpS, but on another HDD, also usb3, I got like 80MBpS. Both are samsung satas. What can explain such difference?00:07
olmarilerner: well plenty possibilities... slow HD, slow USB-controller, for starters...00:08
olmariassuming connected to usb3 bus00:08
lernerolmari, usb bus00:08
lernerolmari, so, wait, both samsungs are satas, meaning I bought an external enclosure for each of them. Does that mean the enclosure is defective?00:09
SyzygyI had ubuntu 14.04 installed and updated it to 16.04 - however due to the random issues the update process got stuck late in the process and I had to restart my notebook. seems it worked anyway and i'm now logged into the 16.04 installation.00:09
olmarilerner: well swap disks around on enclosures and test again00:10
Syzygyis there anything i can do to make sure that everything is ok with that installation?00:10
lerneraargh...00:10
lernermore work00:10
olmarilerner: figure out some test that you do on both discs now, then if diffirent results, swap out and again.. can't figure out any more simpler test than that, assuming everything else is same00:11
lernerolmari, ?? now the 'slow' sata transmits with 80MBPS...00:12
olmarilerner: it matters do you transfer one huge file or million tiny ones...00:12
olmarilerner: but all this is unrelated to ubuntu really00:12
lernerolmari, this second file is 8GB00:12
lernerolmari, I just assumed if I copy files using thunar I should ask here00:13
lernermuch appreciated olmari , ill follow how my satas react00:13
OverrRydeolmari: i think i got disconnected, i might have missed your response to my vnc/headless problem00:14
olmarilerner: you'll never get "full" speed with copying many small files (versus few big ones)00:14
SyzygySupposedly I now have a 17gb swap partition on my SSD. How can I safely resize that and add it to the partition I'm running linux on?00:14
nktnPipeItToDevNull, thanks!00:15
kgbhey, um, peoples... dat girl, 'angel-swe', that had been around - trying to (re)install; anyone know what ended up happening?! i'm not holding any logs @freenode! :f00:16
lernerill keep that in mind... I once copied 97GB of data onto said sata. It started with huge speeds (550MBpS), and it progressively slowed down to 70MBpS. What I dont understand is, why did it stop for 12 seconds every time a file was copied?00:17
kgb... she made it, computer burnt up on re-entry? xd00:17
kgbor? :-000:17
kgb*last was: [02:24:35] * [angell-swe] (uid137709@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eifixqfcizbkuwax): swecode00:18
olmarilerner: well likely RAM is used to cache fileoperations... that can skew the results too like that... and also likely that if OS waits data t really be written to disk, when file buffer itself is "fully copied", OS is still writing data to disc, hence waiting at the end as OS is emptying cache to disc00:19
lernerthx olmari00:20
valkyrie114Hey00:26
valkyrie114I'm having issues using my trackpad on my Alienware 13 R2 after installing Ubuntu00:26
valkyrie114Can someone help00:26
YankDownUndervalkyrie114: Wassup?00:27
valkyrie114^00:27
valkyrie114What I said before00:27
YankDownUndervalkyrie114: Be more descriptive, please.00:28
valkyrie114Not sure how "vague"00:28
valkyrie114THis is00:28
valkyrie114This is *00:28
valkyrie114lol00:28
valkyrie114I'm being pretty specific as is00:29
valkyrie114My trackpad simply doesn't work00:29
valkyrie114In Ubuntu00:29
YankDownUndervalkyrie114: Doesn't work - that's a bit more specific. Right. So you've plugged it in, Ubu doesn't recognise it, yeah?00:29
VentGreyCan you please run the command "lspci" in your ubuntu terminal (control + alt + T) and search for a synaptics touchpad or similar device?00:29
valkyrie114Jesus00:29
valkyrie114Nevermind YankDownUnder00:30
valkyrie114I'll work w/ someone else00:30
valkyrie114Sure VentGrey00:30
billythekidHey guys00:32
billythekidI just had a completely weird issue and though to share it incase you got any ideas.00:32
billythekidI got an IO error that files where missing while downloading. Soon I found out that my HDD has like if it was restored to 2 months ago! Old versions of files, different structures etc.00:33
billythekidWith great disbelieve in my own eyes I rebooted and the file system is back without any problem....00:34
YankDownUnderbillythekid: And you've gone through all the logs?00:34
billythekidthat is nuts and really really scary at the same time. Any thoughts what the help could have happened?00:35
billythekid@YankDownUnder Nope... I don't really know what to look for00:36
YankDownUnderbillythekid: Strange? Yes. Very. I'd be thinking about *what were you doing prior to the issue showing up* - and browse through the system logs to see where the aberration came from...long and boring, but informational.00:36
OverrRydeexit00:36
YankDownUnderbillythekid: Anything that might be pointing to I/O errors, filesystem errors, kernel errors, fuse errors...00:36
billythekidwill do thanks00:37
billythekidjust a clarificaiton. I have some encripted zip files. I openned them and I found old versions00:37
billythekidmeaning binary files have actually restored00:37
YankDownUnderbillythekid: "old versions" - of stuff that's already in existence, yes?00:37
billythekidyes!00:38
billythekidand I mention that to stress that are binary00:38
billythekidand if corrupted they would never open00:38
YankDownUnderbillythekid: "Found" - you had these archived...and stored somewhere...what are they - backups?00:38
billythekidit is like my fucking pc is April fooling me right now :p00:38
billythekidthe backup is on an external disk so there could not have been any accidental restore00:39
YankDownUnderbillythekid: Far out...dig through the logs, bro...meanwhile, I'm off...catch ya shortly.00:39
billythekidthe only thing I am thinking is that encryptfs00:39
billythekidperhaps it's a f**up there00:40
billythekidcool mate I'll have a look thanks for the tip!00:40
dgm78Hi! When I try to set with v4l2-ctl get error operation not permitted... Why?00:43
wastrelwhat's v4l2-ctl00:51
OerHeks!info qv4l200:54
ubottuqv4l2 (source: v4l-utils): Graphical Qt v4l2 control panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.1-1 (yakkety), package size 196 kB, installed size 573 kB00:54
OerHeks:-P00:54
prometI keep seeing vestiges of the upstart service, was there not a big brouhaha, and upstart got thrown over for systemctl? Or...have a I just not been paying attention?00:57
Bashing-ompromet: upstart might be removed in 17.04 . maybe .01:05
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Guest29087I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 into an SSD, but I am in a Live CD session in Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't burn a new CD (since the drive is being used), and I am wondering what the easiest way to do this. Can someone please hlep?01:15
anakondahhello01:16
Bashing-omGuest29087: 'dd' the .iso to a USB thumb drive ?01:16
anakondahBashing-om: yes01:18
Guest29087I don't have a free one right now. What if I run the installer, and tell it to install in the SSD. Won't it upgrade to 16.04 automatically?01:18
SyzygyCan someone recommend a programm for opening extreme resolution image files?01:19
Syzygylike a 500mb tif file.01:19
anakondahSyzygy: gimp01:20
anakondahGuest29087: if you pray, yes it will01:20
Guest29087:)01:21
Syzygyanakondah: thank's i'll try it.01:21
bazhanganakondah, thats not helpful at all01:21
Guest29087anakondah: I believe I can install and update later, right?01:22
Bashing-omGuest29087: Maybe worth a shot, but I do not think so - as 15.04's repo has been tunred away .01:22
Bashing-omturned*01:22
Guest29087bashing-om: what does that mean?01:22
olmariGuest29087: if you really REALLY doesn't have any other hardware, you can install whatever is on the current cd, boot it, then burn the curent ubuntu into disc and then install it...01:23
Bashing-omGuest29087: No access to a 15.04 software repository .01:23
Bashing-om!eol | Guest2908701:23
ubottuGuest29087: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades01:23
Guest29087That sounds bad.. I also have Unetbootin. Is that a good option?01:23
Bashing-omGuest29087: a "Good option" is the USB .01:25
Syzygy... It would be nice if gimp would scale it's ui with the OS...01:25
Guest29087TBH, I am afraid I am going to mess up my partitions. When I try the installer, it asks: "Do you want to unmount the partitions [/dev/sda] before continuing? (...)"01:27
Guest29087And why are those messages always copy protected?01:27
Bashing-omGuest29087: Correct, right ! DO not write to the mounted sda ! // did you mount sda in the live envirnment from say the GUI file manager ??01:29
Guest29087I don't believe I did. How can I check?01:29
Guest29087I mean, the physical machine has a spinning HD that should not be in use. I was hoping it would try the SSD01:30
Bashing-omGuest29087: in the live environment - ctl+alt+T to gain a command interface . here exexute terminal command ' mount ' . will show all that is mounted .01:31
Guest29087What does it mean  to unmount the partition? Will the system just stop seeing it, or something bad01:31
Bashing-omGuest29087: IF you are running from the liveDVD, then un-mounting sda will have no adverse effects .01:32
Guest29087Done it. There seems to be a lot of stuff mounted01:32
Guest29087Yes, I am in the live CD session right now01:33
Bashing-om!pastebin | Guest29087 Here we can see what you see .01:33
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Guest29087Oh, and I just clicked the eject buttons in the GUI01:34
Guest29087So I guess they should be unmounted now?01:34
Bashing-omGuest29087: Can not say . A lot depends on how and why they were mounted . Nad things can result in shutting the system down when files (mounted) remain  in open states .01:36
Bashing-omBad bad *01:36
Guest29087Actually, now the installer is frozen and wont quit. How can I kill it?01:39
Guest29087I can't find it in top01:39
Bashing-om!sysrq | Guest2908701:40
ubottuGuest29087: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key01:40
Guest29087ubottu: very interesting. Thanks01:42
ubottuGuest29087: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:42
Guest29087ubottu: really?01:42
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Guest29087Cool. How does that work?01:42
Guest29087What else does that bot do?01:43
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notmikeUbuntu? More like ubuntunotfunny! Hahaha01:44
Guest29087ChaiTRex: That is a bit disappointing :)01:45
kj4grape01:47
kj4htop01:47
pfifoanyone here come up with a solid system for dealing with hard to use unicode characters? Everytime I want to write a math equation I have to tediously google every greek character I need, copy, paste.... Ugggh, my head hurts already01:48
kj4qcd /media/2t01:49
kj4cd p101:49
kj4ls01:49
Guest29087Anybody here uses unetbootin?01:49
kj4cd ../p201:49
kj4ls01:49
kj4du -h01:49
olmarikj4: stop01:49
kj4exit01:49
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olmaripfifo: well for long-term, set greek keyboardlayout and type in (if possible even), next best learn their "number" and type in manually (still tedious)... and maybe laziest shit, copy all chars and safe to file for later use..01:51
notmikeUnban me gay01:52
Didact69is there a gui for PS ?01:57
learnerhey guys, using ubuntu xenial (16.04), I want to create shared launchers for all users, I create the .desktop launcher in "/usr/share/applications/" and restart, and yet, it doesn't show up. What am I missing?01:57
pfifoI want a tool that will convert the text 'delta squared plus three' into what you would expect01:57
olmaripfifo: for math maybe some nice mathml language or so... not that I know exact plugins, but there are stuff like that01:58
olmarimeaning you write more of "sqrt(2)*44" and so on and it will show up as exactly like math needs it01:59
olmariinstead of "just" resorting to greek alphabets01:59
Didact69I told banshee to scan my music library and it went black, how do I know if it's doing anything, it's taking forever02:10
ivanDidact69: ps auxw | grep banshee to find the PID then strace -p PID02:10
ivan(sudo strace, actually, unless you change the yama ptrace_scope thing)02:11
Didact69ivan ty02:16
Didact69k, it says poll... stuffs02:17
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Didact69oops did wrong process02:19
Didact69strace: Process 12076 attached02:20
Didact69futex(0x30cc22c, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL02:20
ivanif you have the right PID and it's not scanning a bunch of files it's probably stuck02:21
ivanDidact69: the other thing you can do is install iotop and run it and look at the DISK READ column02:22
holo_0.0.02:30
mequarksmattz02:31
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Guest86716After trying to apt-get install p7zip-full, I get: "E: Package 'p7zip-full' has no installation candidate". How can I install it?02:35
YankDownUnderGuest86716: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full ?02:37
Guest86716I am trying to install unetbootin02:38
learnerhey guys, using ubuntu xenial (16.04), I want to create shared launchers for all users, I create the .desktop launcher in "/usr/share/applications/" and restart, and yet, it doesn't show up. What am I missing?02:38
Guest86716yankdownunder: I get "E: Package 'p7zip-full' has no installation candidate"02:38
YankDownUnderGuest86716: I'll assume you've got all the proper sources configured on your installation, yes?02:39
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Guest86716yankdownunder: I am not sure. I am following the three commands listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217981/how-to-install-and-run-unetbootin02:40
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Guest86716I am running in a live CD of Ubuntu 15.0402:40
Bashing-omGuest86716: " APT-Sources: http://mirror.steadfast.net/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages " Make sure the universe repo is enabled .02:41
cfhowlett15.04 is completely dead and unsupported Guest8671602:41
YankDownUnderIf you're running a liveCD, you're going to be a bit "hard put" to do things like update apt and whatnot...so it's going to cause issues. You really can't install anything while you're running on a liveCD...that being said, on a liveUSB, you can change the persistence to allow for updating the OS - along with installing programs.02:42
Didact69ivan, ok ty02:42
djndbGuest86716: have you tried apt-get updade?02:43
alihello02:43
djndb*update02:43
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YankDownUnderdjndb: That's not going to work on a liveCD.02:43
Guest62040how to install flash player for ubuntu mate02:44
Guest86716bashing-om: What is that link, and how should I use it??02:44
djndbYankDownUnder: if course it will02:44
Guest86716cfhowlett: It is just the live CD I happen to have handy...02:45
Guest86716djndb: yes, it doesn't seem to help02:45
Didact69I'll got to the banshee room and see what they say02:46
Bashing-omGuest86716: As advised, 15.04 of dead . that link is of no value to you at this time .02:46
learneri wonder why nobody helps me02:46
Guest86716cfhowlett: Why is 15.04 unsupported when I see on top of this chanel that even 12.04 is considered official still?02:46
cfhowlettGuest86716, but you do NOT see 15.04 on that list, do you?02:47
Bashing-om!lts | Guest8671602:47
ubottuGuest86716: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)02:47
cfhowlett12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 are Long Term Support releases.  others are supported for 9 months.02:47
Guest86716bashing-om: What does it mean that it is dead? Even if no one is maintaining it, shouldn't the software still work?02:48
djndblearner: paste it02:48
learnerdjndb, paste my .desktop file?02:48
djndbyes02:48
learnerdjndb, is there a preferred paste site here?02:49
djndb http://paste.ubuntu.com/02:49
Bashing-omGuest86716: What is on the DVD - insecire as it may be - will work . but there is no software repository to obtain any softwares .02:49
Bashing-ominsecure*02:49
djndbBashing-om: there is in the archive02:50
learnerdjndb,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24296874/02:50
ppttbbwechat?02:52
djndblearner: and your DE is?02:52
Bashing-omdjndb: There is "old-releases" for some porposes . But not for updating an End_Of_Life release ) Release upgrade, YES .02:52
learnerdjndb, my DE?02:53
djndbyes02:53
djndbdesktop environment02:53
learnerdjndb, i'm using default unity of Xenial02:53
learnerweird thing is, I installed sublime text and it created a similar .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and it immediately got registered. I'm guessing there's another place that entries are going to?02:56
learneri checked  all .menu files for sublime but nothing found02:57
learnerso i don't think that's where it gets registered02:57
Didact69what's a ppa when related to apt-get ?03:04
Bashing-om!ppa ! Didact6903:05
ubottuBashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:05
Bashing-om!ppa | Didact6903:05
ubottuDidact69: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:05
Didact69ty03:05
quickquestionpleI am having trouble formatting my drive. I have been successful every time in the past but this one is giving me trouble. Other drives are formatting fine. I am using the fdisk utility.03:16
quickquestionpleThe drive is sda. I would like to wipe it completely and format it with ntfs. It has two partitions, sda2 and sda503:17
quickquestionplerunning mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda yields --- /dev/sda is apparently already in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!03:17
quickquestionpleI have tried umount /dev/sda and umount /dev/sda2 but to no avail03:18
cfhowlettquickquestionple, make an ubuntu USB.  boot USB. format the HDD03:18
quickquestionpleAny suggestions please?03:18
quickquestionpleI am in a bootable ubuntu USB currently03:19
cfhowlettdo you have windows on that HDD?03:19
quickquestionpleNo03:19
quickquestionpleIt previously contained Linux Mint03:19
quickquestionple---  /dev/sda is a 250GB SSD03:20
quickquestionpleI have wrestled with this for a few hours or I would not ask. Even tried to dd it.03:21
Jordan_Uquickquestionple: You should not be passing a full disk like "sda" to mkfs. You should be passing a partition like "sda1".03:22
quickquestionplesda has 2 partitions. sda2 and sda5. How do I consolidate them into a single partition to format?03:24
Jordan_Uquickquestionple: You can either use parted or fdisk to create the appropriate partition, then mkfs to write a filesystem to that partition or you can use GParted to do both. (I would recommend using GParted).03:24
Jordan_Uquickquestionple: Delete both partitions and make a new one that uses all of the space.03:24
quickquestionpleInside of gparted when I go to create a new partition table I receive the error, "Partitions on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change,  probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes."03:28
ivanquickquestionple: df -hT list them as mounted?03:30
quickquestionpleWould I see it listed as /dev/sda under the Filesystem column?03:31
ivanquickquestionple: if they're mounted but you don't need them you can just umount them03:31
ivanyes03:31
ivanwell, /dev/sdaN03:31
ivanfor some N03:31
quickquestionpleNo, they are not mounted03:31
quickquestionpleI have - udev, tmpfs, /dev/sdd1,/dev/loop0,aufs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs03:32
ivanquickquestionple: if you just ran dd over the drive, maybe the kernel won't be using them when you reboot03:33
ivanor maybe something else is going on. hard to say03:33
cfhowlettquickquestionple, paste it please:    df -hT | pastebinit03:33
quickquestionpleI am in a live USB Ubuntu boot.03:33
quickquestionpleokay. pastebin coming.03:33
quickquestionplehttps://pastebin.com/XeShKEgF03:34
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quickquestionpleThoughts?03:43
fxgfxhello can u help me plz03:44
Guest70505So, I want to install Ubuntu on an SSD from inside a live CD session, but want to keep my main spinning disc OS intact. Could someone please walk me through it so I don't mess up?03:44
cfhowlettGuest70505, disconnect the HDD?03:45
Guest70505cfhowlett: How? It is internal to my laptop03:46
cfhowlett!ask | fxgfx03:46
ubottufxgfx: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:46
wastrelyou should be able to manually partition03:46
wastrelinstead of doing the automatic one in the installer03:47
cfhowlettGuest70505, yep. manually partition.  carefully.03:47
pricey_dont go overkill with the swap partition if you are running a small size ssd03:48
fxgfxE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)03:49
fxgfxE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:49
fxgfxcan u help me03:49
cfhowlett!aptlock | fxgfx03:49
ubottufxgfx: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:49
PipeItToDevNullOr the front end is running, and didnt crash03:49
Guest70505cfhowlett: Okay, the instalation wizard says that /dev/sdb has mounted partitions, but I guess that is okay, since I believe that is the SSD, right? It is asking me whether it should be unmounted. I am guessing no?03:50
fxgfxdo i kill process?03:50
quickquestionplewhat can I try next?03:51
Guest70505cfhowlett: I guess maybe better would be to unmount the main HD before even starting the instalation procedure?03:52
cfhowlettGuest70505, depeds on your paranoia level.  but if the HDD is not mounted/available to the installer then you *should* be safe.03:53
RonWhoCaresI used Ubuntu 16.10 .  Is there a way to make a desktop shortcut run as root?03:54
Guest70505I don't think I am paranoid: the wizard even sees that I have Ubuntu and Windows installed and asks if I want to replace them. I guess I can select to "do something else" in the partitioning phase, but I worry I will get it wrong. But moving on...03:55
Guest70505cfhowlett: so now I see a lot of sda partitions, and just one sdb. The device for bootloader instalation is pre selected to my HD, but I can select the SSD03:57
DArinzimOpa..alguem pode me ajudar?03:57
Guest70505cfhowlett: What defines what will be written in the instalation?03:59
Guest70505Is it just the field "device for bootloader instalation"?04:00
fxgfxis wine stable in ubuntu?04:00
p0bsnot very04:01
fxgfxwill it rune cain and abel?04:01
fxgfxrun*04:01
fxgfxyes no?04:03
fxgfxwell i find out soon04:03
djndb1.8.7 is stable in ubuntu04:04
fxgfxwine 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1404:07
fxgfxmay have to update?04:07
screenresHow do I output to 2560x1440 resolution?04:08
Nitin_help04:10
Nitin_HELP04:11
djndbfxgfx: old distro maybe04:11
cnidarianKingMorning everyone04:11
Nitin_Morning04:11
fxgfxdont you guys update the software center?04:12
Nitin_Needs help04:12
Nitin_Needs help04:12
djndb!ask > Nitin_04:12
ubottuNitin_, please see my private message04:12
cfhowlettfxgfx, what version of ubuntu do you have04:12
cnidarianKingI used the terminal, but i  made the mistake of upgrading all of my packages. It took half an hour04:13
fxgfx1604:13
cfhowlett!details | fxgfx,04:13
ubottufxgfx,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.04:13
djndbthe second thing i do after the installation is uninstall that abomination and install synaptic04:14
wastreli didn't know you could uninstall that04:14
Nitin_how to see/enable  GUI mode in ubntu 16.1004:14
djndbcfhowlett: he has 1.6.204:16
djndboh i see ubuntu has packaged gnome 3/2404:18
cfhowlettdjndb, 1.6.2?  you mean ubuntu 16.04.2?04:18
djndbwine 1.6.204:18
RonWhoCaresCan I put this command on single quotes to run as 1 command:   gksu python3 manage.py collectstatic && python3 manage.py compress && python3 manage.py runserver 192.168.0.81:8004:21
RonWhoCaresI am trying to make a desktop icon out of this04:21
djndbRonWhoCares: write a bash script04:22
fxgfx$ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable04:22
fxgfxE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)04:22
fxgfxE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:22
cfhowlettsame same, fxgfx.  told you how to do this already04:23
cfhowlett!aptlock04:23
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:23
RonWhoCaresdjndb: Would the file have 2 lines:  #!/bin/bash and then the command line04:34
djndbRonWhoCares: one line, 3 lines, doesn't matter04:41
RonWhoCaresdjndb: It would help if I had the path correct :P04:46
tubalHello. Not really a Ubuntu-specific thing, but I wonder if anyone here uses xflux,with or without the gui applet?04:49
adymitrukdoes chromium allow casting to chromecast from youtube? It's there on chomeos04:49
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OerHeksadymitruk, maybe .. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-cast/boadgeojelhgndaghljhdicfkmllpafd04:54
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deathlorder irc.xspeeds.eu04:59
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OerHeks!yay05:11
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)05:11
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underd0gyo05:19
LenColeanyone know how to fix the problem when installing ubuntu and the install works fine but will not boot into the system and all you get is a grub prompt. has happened to me under ubuntu 16.10, ubuntu 16.04 now trying ubuntu-mate 17.04 beta 2 and still the same .. was running arch with no issues on this machine but ubuntu seems to have this issue05:20
underd0gLenCole: does it come up as an option05:21
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LenColeno all i get is the grub prompt no options at all05:21
LenColestating minimal bash-like line editing ...05:21
underd0gLenCole: what does it say exactly05:22
LenColewhen i boot i get   GNU GRUB version 2.0205:22
fxgfxit wont work05:23
LenColeMinimal BASH-line like editing is supported. For the first word.05:23
LenColethen a prompt  grub> _05:23
underd0gyeah i think something went wrong with install05:23
underd0gbut try and type startx to boot05:23
fxgfxmy you know a ubunt tool that is like cain and able?05:23
LenColeI have tried installing 3 different versions of ubuntu and derivatives and always the same thing .. have tried boot-repair and still dosn't fix it..05:24
LenColeI will try typing startx and see though05:24
underd0gLenCole: im thinking that the boot partition is overwriting the actual install partition05:25
LenColei set it up with a 100 mb efi partition and then another partition mounted /05:26
underd0gdo an fdisk to checkand make sure05:27
fxgfxhttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjH5PTqhIXTAhVJVyYKHZ1ZD74QFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F343268%2Fhow-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation&usg=AFQjCNHcOXnqdZt5qhH0wEmbqzNx3-Djgg&bvm=bv.151325232,d.eWE05:28
underd0gdid startx not work05:28
LenColei am on that machine booted in with the install media .. going to reboot now and see05:30
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Jordan_ULenCole: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces. I can't look at it at the moment but I will be back tomorrow.05:35
reshelpHow do I set up a 2560x1440 monitor with HDMI connection and Radeon HD 6450 Graphics card?05:47
reshelpI've tried install the Radeon drivers and configuring xrandr directly05:50
OerHeksreshelp, not, dvi and DP would .. http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/6000/645005:51
OerHeks.. even VGA would be able to do 2048x153605:51
Dreamani use free druver but my monitor is full hd not  uhd05:52
craptalkwhen i run env command, i got this DISPLAY=:106:04
craptalkwhat does it mean?06:05
craptalknumber of active monitor?06:05
craptalkdoes it count on when i add another new monitor conneted to my laptop?06:06
Drohello, i'm facing a strange problem these days: after getting back from suspend my computer get slow.. and some strange blank spaces in the (X [] -) part of each window06:22
ducassecraptalk: it's the number of your x display, nothing to do with monitor(s)06:22
Droany ideas?06:23
Delvien.06:36
Drohere is an example of how my screen look after getting back of suspend ==> http://i.imgur.com/esjOAnc.png06:36
Droany idea how to fix this?06:37
DelvienDro: could be a plethora of things. Memory leaks, video card issues, bad memory module or some other hardware problem. Did you check journalctl ? dmesg?06:37
DelvienDro: that could be a video card driver issue06:37
DroDelvien, what command should I use to extract the issues messages from dmesg?06:39
ducasseDro: 'dmesg'06:39
Droducasse, well the problem is that there is too much informations in the output.. :|06:42
ducasseDro: you are interested in the bits that appear after resume, so start by narrowing down to those06:43
Droducasse, can't really find anything interesting in there.. any other suggestions?06:48
funHow to check/use router without incoming cable06:49
ducasseyou can try journalctl, but i would think a driver problem was visible in dmesg06:49
ducassefun: try ##networking06:49
alkisgfun, use wifi?06:55
funalkisg: how06:57
funWhat's use cases06:58
funIs it possible to connect usb drive06:58
funI have phone tablet and arduino and USB drives alkisg06:59
funNo pc06:59
ducassefun: this is really off-topic here, take it to ##networking.06:59
hungryao谁能告诉我这玩意怎么用07:03
cfhowlett!cn | hungryao07:03
ubottuhungryao: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:03
hungryaojoin #ubuntu-tw07:03
EvilReaperhello07:04
hungryaohello07:04
hungryao这居然是个聊天室07:05
hungryao鬼会用啊07:05
ducassehungryao: /join #ubuntu-tw07:05
hungryao我发的消息有人看到吗07:06
EvilReaperhello07:06
hungryao对面是外星人吗07:06
cfhowlettEvilReaper, this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions07:07
hungryaoi see07:07
hungryaowhy you guys use ubuntu07:07
cfhowletthungryao,  because we want to.  now: what is your support question.07:08
EvilReaperYesterday i updated my opencv-3.0.0 to opencv-3.1.0 by source code compile and it totally working fine with c++ but my python still looks for .so file that belongs to opencv-3.0.0. I need help07:08
hungryaoi can't sing in Unity3D07:10
cfhowletthungryao, ?  explain.07:10
cfhowlettsounds like a python issue, EvilReaper.  ask the ##python people07:11
EvilReapercfhowlett, Thanks for your quick replay.07:12
hungryaoit always shows that not available,try again later07:12
hungryaomy network works well07:13
hungryaocfhowlett?07:14
cfhowletthungryao, you said "I can't sing in unity 3d"  Makes NO sense.07:14
hungryaopardon?07:15
cfhowlett<hungryao> i can't sing in Unity3D07:15
hungryaojust question about ubuntuOS is acceptable?07:16
ducassehungryao: yes07:17
hungryaosorry07:17
hungryaoi am in China,how to use google ,like VPN07:20
cfhowlett!vpn | hungryao07:20
ubottuhungryao: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN07:20
hungryaook thanks07:21
cfhowletthappy2help!07:21
cfhowlett!kylin | hungryao07:21
ubottuhungryao: Ubuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is an official part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin07:21
hungryaoi know that,but i prefer original edition07:23
hungryaoanyway thanks for your help07:24
wastrel太好了07:31
cfhowlettenglish? wastrel07:32
FMan1988heh07:33
lokkanyone can help me for laptop selection?07:49
wastreli'll take a lenovo t460p07:50
lokkwhy wastrel07:51
wastreli like lenovos07:53
lokkcan you suggest alternate models07:54
lokkin pm please wastrel07:55
wastreli don't have a lot of laptop knowledge.  i just go with lenovos07:55
ducasse!pm | lokk07:55
ubottulokk: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.07:55
Delvient430 master race07:55
baizon!offtopic07:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:56
Delvientoo bad it still has intel ME07:56
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Dreamanin final version of 17.04 unity 8 or08:44
Dreamanno08:44
ducasseDreaman: only tech preview, but keep 17.04 questions to #ubuntu+108:46
Dreamanok08:46
KnightPh0nemorning flyinprogrammer08:51
KnightPh0nemorning everyone08:51
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anddamI'm trying to figure if I should report the lack of any change for zoom feature as a bug, can anyone double check this with me?08:51
anddamon a default 16.04 (Unity) I noticed System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > "Universal Access" has "Turn zoom on or off", "Zoom in" and "Zoom out" shortcuts already configured by default. Using the shortcuts has no apparent effects.08:58
anddamUnity Systems Settings is based on GNOME's Settings application from gnome-control-center package, using this app the Universal Access pane has a Zoom section that isn't present in Unity's System Settings > Universal Access. This "Zoom" switch is actually triggered by the "Turn zoom on or off" shortcut from Unity's System Settings shortcut so the shortcut is actually tied to the feature, but it's not08:58
anddamproducing any effect.08:58
anddamnow I'm not sure if it's a bug since the zoom feature is supposed to work while it isn't, if it's an UI glitch since the Zoom section is missing in Unity's setting panel but the shortcuts were left there by mistake, and I'm not sure if I should be reporting this at all09:00
anddamit's not a coherent UX for sure09:00
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S3mohi some one can help me with docker and vsftpd, I intalled vsftpd on a docker and won't work...09:06
lunatik@find Linnea_Sinclair An Accidental Goddess09:09
anddamnow that was odd09:18
harryghello09:23
alkisgHi09:24
harrygwhere are you from09:24
alkisgThis is a support channel for ubuntu09:24
alkisgIt's not for chat09:24
ikoniajoin #lfs09:30
ikoniaoops09:30
DocMAXhello there... where is the module "virtio_balloon.ko" gone???09:35
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aqatlHello, I've got a question. During ubuntu installation I've selected home directory encryption. If I'd want to install another distro and keep that home dir, will it work? I mean, will my home dir be mounted and will I be able to use it normally? Or will it require additional configuration? I'm asking, beacuse I want to be sure, that I won't be left with decrypted, unaccessible data.09:36
baizonaqatl: yes, if you configure it09:38
DocMAXwhere are the virtio drivers??????09:39
MonkeyDustaqatl  mind, your /home dir contains config files, that may not work on the other distro09:39
ikoniaDocMAX: in the kernel09:39
baizonaqatl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37/when-installing-im-given-the-option-of-encrypting-my-home-folder-what-does-t09:39
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DocMAXikonia: its not there09:41
DocMAXthere is no virtio_balloon.ko!09:41
aqatlok, thanks09:42
aqatlSo I'll just need to configure that ecryptfs on a new system?09:44
baizonaqatl: yes09:44
aqatlok, thank you09:45
konradosMorning. Since three days I've struggling with Skype on Ubuntu. Installed - OK, creating account - OK, text conversations - OK. The ppl I called are on Windows 7 and another one on Windows 10. Calling "works" i.e. they see the message that I'm calling, they click "answer" and then... nothing. I don't see on my PC that they answered, and the call is aborted. I would be very grateful for any ideas :)09:46
MonkeyDustkonrados  that looks like a question for the skype channel09:47
konradosThere is no such channel?09:47
konradossec...09:47
MonkeyDustthere's #skype, but nobody's there09:47
konrados^09:48
konradosSo, any ideas? And yes - I've tried googling, is doesn't seem anybody has this kind of issue...09:48
konradoss/is/it09:49
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baizonkonrados: youre using the new skype client?09:49
konradosYes, fresh install (three days ago) baizon09:50
baizonkonrados: because the old client is eol and not supported anymore09:50
baizonkonrados: https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/443429909:51
MonkeyDustkonrados  there's this https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/09:52
konradosbaizon, - "skype for linux beta" 5.0.0.5 With a dancing penguin09:52
konradoslet me try that links, baizon MonkeyDust09:52
konradosMonkeyDust, - yes, this is what I downloaded09:54
KenKaniffhey, can anyone here help me with my problem? https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13823310:01
bazhangKenKaniff, vlc issue?10:02
KenKaniffyeah10:02
bazhangKenKaniff, care to give us a synopsis here10:03
KenKaniffi want to record a livestream video on twitch. I can paste the video in the "open networking url" tab unter media, but whenever I press record, nothing happens and no file is created10:04
KenKaniffwhen i launch vlc over the commandline, i get the abovementioned error and vlc stops working entirely10:05
bazhangKenKaniff, have you tried in #videolan ?10:05
KenKaniffbazhang no, but i will now10:06
KenKaniffthanks10:06
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da7nielI want a certain python script to execute on startup but I need to run it with admin priviledge, can I just put "sudo /directory/script.py" into /etc/rc.local?? will that work?10:09
ducasseda7niel: rc.local is run as root, no need for sudo10:10
da7nielducasse: thanks!10:10
fyan-ravahello10:11
fyan-ravai just came back10:11
fyan-ravaafter install mariadb and change password for it i forget my pass to login it10:12
fyan-ravahow i do now ?10:12
Dreamanzad klaviaturnoto ustroistvo e problema KenKaniff :) http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/423/9084423z.png10:13
ducasseDreaman: what's the question?10:13
Dreamanno question see pic10:14
Dreaman:)10:14
MonkeyDustDreaman  what's in the pic, describe the problem10:15
bazhangducasse, its russian help for KenKaniff 's issue10:15
MonkeyDust!ru10:15
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.10:15
Dreamanfuck russia i am BULGARIAN10:15
Dreamanlames10:15
bazhangDreaman, stop that10:15
Dreamanok10:16
Dreamansee the movie10:16
bazhangDreaman, providing help here is done in English10:16
Dreamanhelp me hahahah10:16
bazhangDreaman, then state your ubuntu issue10:17
MonkeyDustDreaman  ask a question, so we can help10:17
Dreamanmy system work good with ubuntu10:17
Dreamanthenks10:17
pigninja_welp10:20
pigninja_how goes the people10:20
bazhangpigninja_, ubuntu support issue, or just wish to chat10:21
nBIinkHello, can I change Ubuntu's default display manager to KDM without messing up the system?10:29
ducassenBIink: sddm, you mean? it shouldn't mess things up afaik.10:32
nBIinkYeah, I just want to change the default manager10:32
nBIinkBefore I tried to install KDM on synaptic package manager and it wanted to remove resolvconf and another one10:33
ducassenBIink: which ubuntu version are you on?10:33
nBIink16.1010:33
ducassethere is no kdm anymore, kde uses sddm now.10:34
nBIinkahh okay.. Will it mess up everything if I try to install it on synaptic?10:34
ducasseas i said, it absolutely should not.10:35
nBIinkAnd I don't want to install KDE, I already installed Xfce4 as desktop environment10:35
nBIinkIt's lightweight and works for me10:35
nBIinkOk I will install it, how do I change replace the default manager then?10:36
nBIinkI mean replace* I'm a bit confused, :p10:36
ducasseit should ask you which one you want to use during installation.10:36
nBIinkOk, thank you10:36
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Lu6770If I am dualbooting Windows 10 and Ubuntu on two SSDs (one per OS), and Windows already has an EFI partition...what do I do with it?10:40
Lu6770Or do I make a new one on the second drive10:40
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alkisgLu6770: you can do either one of those10:41
Lu6770What difference does it make?10:41
Lu6770I'd rather not mess around with the EFI for Windows if I can help it. I just want to be able to pick my OS in GRUB each time10:42
alkisgThe best is to remove the windows drive, then install ubuntu so that it gets its own efi partition, then insert the windows drive, and tell uefi to boot from the second drive10:42
alkisgThe pros of that is that you can remove either drive and the other will still be working10:43
Lu6770So...will GRUB just detect it?10:43
alkisgYes10:43
Lu6770Ok snazzy. Thanks a lot! So it is just PnP basically?10:43
alkisgIf you do it the way I said (remove drive etc), then yes, except that in the end when you put the windows drive back, you'll need to run sudo update-grub one more time for ubuntu to see windows10:44
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Guest24000Türk varmı arkadaşlar10:44
MonkeyDust!tr10:45
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:45
da7nielso I'm trying to run some files at launch, i've added these lines to rc.local https://pastebin.com/ebuF2v6L -- and neither are getting executed on startup, yet I can run them manually... what's going on?10:46
Lu6770alkisg thanks a lot :) appreciate the help!10:46
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shinigami_hi new to IRC11:18
shinigami_Hello... Everyone :)11:18
Tatouhihi11:18
shinigami_Hi Tatau..11:19
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MonkeyDustshinigami_  type   /topic11:19
BluesKajHiyas all11:39
kbobhi BluesKaj11:39
BluesKajhi kbob11:40
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fyan-rava #1698 - Access denied for user 'root '@'localhost11:49
FMan1988that's too bad11:51
stevendale_FMan1988: Hey! That's not how this channel works! :(11:51
FMan1988oh11:51
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LiI'm making bootable centos usb drive from ubuntu box, here is the dd command syntax which I used https://pastebin.com/YruMhQxi ... the issue is: ubuntu cli shows the process as completed but I get a gui notification worning me from unpluging the usb while data is still being copied to it!!! can anyone advise on this type of problem?11:53
alkisgLi, man dd => check conv=fdatasync11:54
Lity alkisg11:55
alkisgnp11:55
qswzHey I don't remember with who I discussed about imwheel, it works fine, but when I add it to default startup commands, it's not started up11:57
qswzI tried putting a sleep delay, but not better11:57
rogierping? pong!12:05
FMan1988you mean the Chinese president? Xi Jinping-pong12:07
qswzno Ho Lee Sheet12:08
tdnWhat does mdadm use the hostname for? I notice it is part of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: "ARRAY /dev/md/0  metadata=1.2 UUID=a719a7a5:93fd065c:171425f3:8950de3d name=syrah:0"     If I change hostname of the server, do I need to change this? Or can I even change it without breaking my mdadm raid array?12:19
ahmadhey12:19
fyan-ravahello12:19
stevendale_Hi12:19
fyan-ravado you know application for design website and developer in ubuntu12:19
stevendale_Ask your question or join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion bound by the core ubuntu irc channel guidelines12:19
ahmaddo you have a windows elmatur in ubuntu?12:20
FMan1988elmatur :)12:20
ahmadsorry :)12:21
FMan1988lol12:21
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rogierfyan-rava, bluefish comes to mind.. for HTML/CSS related. And any editor that supports your favorite dynamic language can be used to program logic using that language.. (e.g. database interaction)12:24
rogierahmad: not really an emulator... but there is wine, that (to put simply) can be used to run windows programs (not all, but a big amount)12:25
gabbomanwine allows you to run windows programs in linux. Wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator12:27
gabbomanbut we will call it emulator anyway because reasons12:27
FMan1988WINE provides syscall level comptibitlya?12:28
FMan1988-tyupos12:28
wasutton3is there a quick way i can test if www-data has write access to a specific folder? since www-data doesn't have a shell (nor should it) I'm not sure how to test write a file as that user12:28
nBIinkHow do I change the icon to a symlink linked to a sh script?12:29
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rolli__Hi all12:29
rolli__I trying to install somethig with umake12:29
rolli__i want to install for all user and not for specific user, how can I do it?12:30
Harrywasutton3: ls -la <folder>, you can see who owns it, the group and permissions for user/group/everyone12:30
wasutton3Harry, I've done that. The folder is 777, but the contents are not12:31
wasutton3those are owned by nobody:nogroup12:31
PCatineanCan someone please help me with my RT5390 wireless card in ubuntu 16.04.02 LTS?12:32
wasutton3basically im trying to get an nfs share writable by www-group:www-group12:32
PCatineanIt just keeps getting interrupted every 7-8 minutes or so12:32
wasutton3www-data sorry12:32
PCatineandrives me crazy, kills my ssh connections and destroys my life :(12:32
Harrywasutton3: you could change the permissions/owner of the files?12:32
wasutton3Harry, tried that as root on the nfs client, and root could not change permissions12:33
rolli__someone?12:34
Harrywasutton3: it failed to? or just changed the permissions on the directory, not the files within?12:34
wasutton3Harry, correct12:35
wasutton3as a regular user i can read/write to the folder12:36
wasutton3as root i can read/write to the folder12:36
Dreamanhow to id root aut of sudo12:36
Dreamansu -i12:36
Dreamanor12:36
Harrywasutton3: have you tried chmod -R to change the permissions recursively, when being root on the NFS server itself?12:38
wasutton3Harry, yes12:38
wasutton3the server is archlinux, the client is ubuntu12:38
wasutton3so the ids of the www-data user might not be the same12:39
cslcmHi - My "ubuntu" user can sudo without a password, and I want to disable this. There is no "NOPASSWD" entry in visudio. Is there another way this could have been set?12:40
ducassecslcm: could be in a file in /etc/sudoers.d12:41
izfaruqiHello12:42
cslcmducasse: nothing in there12:42
Harrywasutton3: i see, did you get an error when you said it failed to change the permissions?12:42
wasutton3Harry, "chown changing ownership not permitted12:45
wasutton3or rather changing ownership of $folder: operation not permitted12:45
ioriacslcm, you mean you can run   'apt update'  (for example)  without sudo ?12:46
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Harrywasutton3: could it be that you're affected by the "root_squash" option's behaviour? http://serverfault.com/questions/21217812:47
cslcmioria: no, I can run "sudo apt update" and it doesn't prompt for a password12:47
cslcmbut i can see no sign of a NOPASSWD entry12:47
ioriacslcm,  close the terminal and reopen12:48
wasutton3Harry, possibly. let me read and find out12:48
Harrywasutton3: sure :)12:48
kj4grape12:48
kj4screen -S mike12:49
kj4sudo -s12:49
kj4cripripa12:49
kj4cd /var/log12:49
kj4ls12:49
kj4ls -haltr12:49
wasutton3Harry, alright, here goes with the no squash option12:50
kj4                                                  wqls12:50
kj4cd12:50
kj4cd /media12:50
ducassekj4: stop that12:50
kj4cd 2tb12:50
ikoniakj4: stop please12:50
kj4cd p112:50
ikoniakj4: I've muted you so you can no longer talk in the channel -  please pm me when you are done flooding12:51
wasutton3Harry, yup, remote root can now reassign ownership of the files12:51
Harrywasutton3: progress!? :)12:52
wasutton3Harry, maybe. lets see if the www-data user can write to the folder now12:52
webohI am having trouble getting administrator privileges with Linux. I don't know how to login as administer, if even necessary, or to access the privileges.12:52
ikoniaweboh: what EXACTLY are you trying to do12:52
webohuse synaptic, use administrator privilege without refusal12:53
ikoniawithout refusal ?12:53
ikoniaweboh: what version of ubuntu are you running ?12:53
wasutton3Harry, awesome! its all working12:53
wasutton3now i can button up this nfs share and secure it down some more12:54
EvilReaperweboh, sudo12:54
chebysheffhello12:54
chebysheffHello World12:54
webohI don't know the main user login of things to be administrator.12:54
ikoniaweboh: what version of ubuntu are you12:54
ikoniayou running12:54
webohKubuntu, latest version, or close12:55
ikoniaweboh: ok - so synaptic is not the package manager interface for kubuntu12:55
MonkeyDustweboh  in a terminal, what's the output of   cat /etc/issue12:55
ikoniamuon is the package manager12:56
ikonia(or the interface to it)12:56
Harrywasutton3: Woo, glad I could help! Might be worth reverting that option again when you're done playing with permissions etc.12:56
ikoniaand when you launch it from the menu it should do privilege eslcalation for you12:56
webohUbuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l <-- of this, I have nigh clue12:56
webohnigh or naye12:56
ikoniaok, so 16.0412:57
ikoniaso launch muon from the menu12:57
webohbut it is a kubuntu12:57
CodingCookiehey guys, i had an windows8 and now i installed ubuntu. Iam a casual player and playing sometimes csgo and dota. On my windows machine everything was ok, but now i cant play it. Its lagging really hard12:57
wasutton3Harry, thats exactly what i just tested for. Permissions done, time to revoke root access :P12:57
webohinstalling muon12:57
ikoniaweboh: it should be there by default12:57
webohikonia: it isn't12:58
wasutton3aaaaand to only allow that host to write to those nfs shares12:58
ikoniaweboh: it seems unlikley you are running kubuntu then12:58
CodingCookiecan anyone help me with this ?12:58
tomreynCodingCookie: you might want to install proprietary drivers, then , if any are available for your hardware. this often improves performance.12:58
webohikonia: I am using KDE. ?12:58
tomreynCodingCookie: which ubuntu version is this? which video card(s) do you have there?12:59
ikoniaweboh: how did you install your Ubuntu distro12:59
webohKunbuntu package, and oem install12:59
ikoniaweboh: my mistake12:59
ikoniaweboh: ahh muon was replaced with muon discover, so you do need to manually install muon12:59
webohikonia: I am having problems with discover's list. hmmm13:00
ikoniaweboh: just install muon13:00
webohXapian index?13:00
ikoniawhat ?13:00
CodingCookietomreyn: https://pastebin.com/SrfJeHmj <-- my video graphics card and i am using 16.04 Ubuntu13:01
ikoniasadly in my view running the games on linux is not a good and practical real world experience13:02
ikoniaif you want to play a windows game...use windows13:02
webohikonia: true, I prefer other forms of commercial linux software13:02
ikoniaweboh: what ???13:02
webohikonia: VLC, pdf studio 11, perhaps Maple whatever number13:03
MonkeyDustweboh  how is that muon related?13:05
tomreynCodingCookie: run this from a terminal: /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk --open-tab=413:05
ikoniaweboh: what does those random lists of software components have to do with any of the discussion in this channel ?13:05
webohLinux does have decent commercial software. I wonder how long Mac OS X will last. Discover has non-commercial installs.13:06
ikoniaweboh: no-one said linux doesn't have decent commercial software13:06
ikoniaweboh: macos is in no danger, I'm not sure what you are talking about or the context of this discussion13:06
tomreynCodingCookie: this shoul open a new window which lets you swuitch to proprietary graphics drivers13:06
CodingCookietomreyn: thank you for your help. i will try this out!13:07
tomreynCodingCookie: good luck. come back here if there are any issues with it13:09
webohI think Linux is becoming a threat to the Mac OS X, and that Microsoft and Apple will not support it. All that free Mac OS X software going to Linux would be a shame.13:10
ikoniaweboh: that is nothing to do with this channel and could not be a more out of touch view13:11
tomreynCodingCookie: read this for more information on your driver options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia13:12
webohikonia: is so bad for Linux to have commerical software?13:13
webohis it?13:13
tomreynstill off-topic13:14
wasutton3Harry, just want to thank you and let you know everything is working as intended.13:15
ikoniaweboh: no-one has sad anything about comerical software on linux, let alone it being bad to have commercial software on linux, I'm not sure why you are seem to continue to imply that people are saying it's a bad thing13:16
Harrywasutton3: good to hear! :)13:17
stefan_hello13:18
FMan1988hi13:18
stefan_I had 14.04 with faulty desktop environment. When I close all apps and Im left with only desktop my desktop freezes and I cannot open any app nor unity dashboard. I upgraded to 16.04 but the problem still exists. This problem does not occur on freshly new created accounts. So is there a way to reset my environment somehow?13:19
FMan1988isn't Ubuntu itself commercial software, because it is made by a company? (even though it isn't sold to users for money)13:19
ivanstefan_: most of your configuration is in ~/.config13:20
ivan~/.cache may in some cases also break things13:20
ivanstefan_: there is also a bit of stuff in ~/.local and other dotfiles in your home directory13:21
stefan_hmm, but there are so many files13:21
stefan_can I somehow put them back into original state?13:21
stefan_I could copy /etc/skel13:21
stefan_but thts going to give me only .bashrc and some other stuff13:21
ivanwell, the original state is near-empty, so you could just move them all, then bring back what you want13:22
FMan1988if a conf gives you trouble, try running without it13:22
stefan_ok, Ill try. One more question, when I install or remove packages I get this N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension13:22
stefan_should I get rid of 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist?13:22
ivanstefan_: you can ignore that or delete that file13:22
ivanyes13:22
stefan_I think its there when I upgraded my ubuntu13:23
stefan_ivan: I have renmaed .cache to .cacheold etc etc13:24
stefan_should i now relogin? or I need to create .cache dir first?13:24
stefan_it should be auto created upon login?13:24
ivanstefan_: that should all get created as needed13:25
stefan_ok13:25
ppf!eol13:28
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:28
stefan_ivan: desktop now does not freeze13:29
ivancool :-)13:29
stefan_but when I click left click to select something, nothing happens and right click clicking not happening anything13:29
stefan_is that normal?13:29
stefan_right click on new directory13:29
stefan_not popping up that menu13:29
stefan_not sure if thats normal for 16.04?13:29
ivanclicking in the nautilus file manager?13:30
ivanclicking left or right should do things there13:30
FMan1988even on 16.04 :P13:30
ubunturockshello, i'm trying to create a daemon in my ubuntu server, well, in the internet they say to create a script in /etc/init.d, like /etc/init.d/gogs, then in this script i put a line 'daemon --user="git" /home/git/init_gogs', i don't know why is not executing the script;13:33
stefan_ivan: sorry lost connection13:33
stefan_due to reboot, if you said anything repaste please13:33
fribwhat is the best way to stop my touchpad from picking up "accidental touches" from my palm while typing without creating excessive delays between typing and using the mouse?13:34
stefan_and I have found the case when its not working. I now put the icon in desktop and when I close the app, it freezes13:34
stefan_dont know what to do13:34
FMan1988keep your palm away from the touch screen13:34
ducassefrib: 'man syndaemon'13:37
ppfhow do i upgrade wily to xenial?13:38
ppfrunning do-release-upgrade complains about the version of apt13:38
ducasse!eolupgrade13:38
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:38
ivanubunturocks: if you are on 16.04, the right way to do this is to create a systemd unit, enable it, start it13:39
ubunturocksivan: ok13:40
ppfducasse: yes, i've seen that. but wily isn't in old-releases13:40
ubunturocksivan: you mean a service like apache?13:40
ivanubunturocks: well, I assume you are runnings gogs13:40
ivanhttps://github.com/gogits/gogs/blob/master/scripts/systemd/gogs.service13:41
ducasseppf: i actually thought it was still in the regular repos, but i could be wrong13:41
ubunturocksivan: yes, i want to run it like i run apache, i start the system then it starts together, running in background of course13:41
ivanubunturocks: enabled systemd units with a WantedBy=multi-user.target will be started when the machine starts13:41
stefan_ivan: lost connection again13:41
stefan_anyway, for that new user on the same machine, desktop works with more icons, while at me it doesnt13:42
ppfducasse: you are of course correct ...13:42
ubunturocksivan: can i choose which user will run the init script?13:42
ivanubunturocks:  I would take that .service file, put it in /etc/systemd/system, systemctl daemon-reload, systemctl enable gogs.service, systemctl start gogs.service13:42
stefan_Im thinking about purging whole /home/stefan/13:42
ivanubunturocks: see the User= in that unit I linked13:42
stefan_I mean whole hidden files (.) is that ok?13:42
ivanstefan_: I haev no useful information, sorry13:42
ubunturocksivan: many thanks!13:42
stefan_rm -rf ~/.* ?13:42
ivanstefan_: you might need to keep .ssh/authorized_keys if you ssh in from somewhere13:42
ivanand id_rsa, id_rsa.pub13:42
ivanI would not rm -rf13:42
ivanalso, there's a .gconf* that might be screwing things up for you, I don't know13:43
stefan_.ssh is not an issue13:43
stefan_hmm, so what is the best way to remopve myself and re-add it as a new user but to preserve my user in sudoers?13:43
ivanI would just move any dotfile-directories that look like they have some configuration13:44
ducassestefan_: just 'mv .config .config.bak'?13:44
alkisgstefan_: don't run that command13:44
ivanI think stefan_ already moved that13:44
alkisgstefan_: .* also means . and ..13:44
alkisg(which is /home/stefan and /home)13:44
ivanin bash but not in zsh13:45
ivanstefan_: one thing I worry about is if some program wrote its configuration back out _after_ you moved stuff13:45
alkisgHe's using zsh?!13:45
ivanwho knows!13:45
massimobuongiorno a tutti13:45
MonkeyDust!it13:45
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:45
stefan_ivan: hmm13:45
stefan_maybe13:45
stefan_but why doesnt that program do the same for a new user I created?13:45
massimochi mi sa dire come si può aggiornare mint da 17.3 a 18.1? grazie13:46
alkisgstefan_: what is the actual issue you're trying to solve? getting rid of some specific setting?13:46
ivanstefan_: well I assume new-user configuration is fine when created new13:46
ivan<stefan_> I had 14.04 with faulty desktop environment. When I close all apps and Im left with only desktop my desktop freezes and I cannot open any app nor unity dashboard. I upgraded to 16.04 but the problem still exists. This problem does not occur on freshly new created accounts. So is there a way to reset my environment somehow?13:46
stefan_alkisg: new users have working desktop environment, while mine is faulty. When I minimize all the apps, my desktop freezes13:46
alkisgstefan_: and you moved .config to .config.bak, and logged out and then back in, and it still had issues?13:47
ivanhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/558744/minimizing-or-closing-apps-cause-ubuntu-to-freeze13:48
stefan_alkisg: correct13:48
alkisgstefan_: does this give any output?    find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)13:49
stefan_alkisg: yes gives bunch of /home/stefan/tmp/npm-7642/1401540720547-0.3688152141403407/tmp.tgz13:49
alkisgstefan_: these files are not owned by you. If it's only in tmp, it's ok, but if it's in any other dir, it's ann issue13:50
stefan_find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)13:50
stefan_/home/stefan/.aptitude/config13:50
stefan_only that file is diff from tmp files alkisg13:50
alkisgEh ok, that would only affect running aptitude as non-root13:51
alkisgstefan_: next thing to try would be mv .local .local.bak13:51
alkisgMaybe some application data file is corrupted...13:51
stefan_I tried that befoer13:51
stefan_didnt worked13:51
stefan_should i try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/558744/minimizing-or-closing-apps-cause-ubuntu-to-freeze ?13:51
alkisgSo you've already moved .config, .cache, and .local?13:51
stefan_alkisg: yap like ivan suggested13:52
stefan_didnt helped13:52
alkisgOK then try moving your account elsewhere for a moment, to make sure this corrects things, i.e.13:52
stefan_im following this tut13:52
stefan_if it doesnt work Ill move it elsewhere13:52
stefan_what do you mean moving acc elsewhere though?13:53
alkisgsudo service lightdm stop; login; cd /home; sudo mv stefan stefan.bak; sudo mkdir stefan; sudo chown stefan:stefan stefan; sudo service lightdm start13:53
stefan_moving ~/ to /home/stefanbackup ?13:53
alkisgMeh I hope he noted that down13:53
ivanheh13:53
ivan#ubuntu: configuration management^Wremoval as a service13:54
stefan_didnt worked this tutorial13:55
stefan_so what was your suggestion13:55
stefan_moving account elsewhere?13:55
alkisg(04:53:13 μμ) alkisg: sudo service lightdm stop; login; cd /home; sudo mv stefan stefan.bak; sudo mkdir stefan; sudo chown stefan:stefan stefan; sudo service lightdm start13:55
stefan_alkisg: what do you mean with login?13:55
alkisgWhen you stop lightdm, you'll get a terminal prompt13:55
alkisglogin: stefan <enter>13:55
alkisgpassword: xxx <enter>13:56
alkisgetc13:56
alkisgYou might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login13:56
stefan_hey, I never got terminal login when I stopped lightdm14:04
alkisg(04:56:27 μμ) alkisg: You might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login14:04
stefan_Ive got instead /dev/sda7Clearing orphaned node14:04
stefan_and bunch of those messages14:04
stefan_ok, so these messages are fine?14:04
alkisgDid you read it ^ now? :)14:04
alkisgNo, they're not fine14:05
stefan_:(14:05
alkisgThey are printed on boot14:05
stefan_I get those while im botting14:05
stefan_yes14:05
alkisgThey mean that you had disk issues which were resolved14:05
stefan_but I get these each timne I booot14:05
stefan_why each time hdd had issues?14:05
alkisgYou see the "clearing orphaned node" message on each boot?14:05
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alkisgThe "check /dev/sda7" message is fine14:06
alkisgThe orphaned, no14:06
stefan_btw lightdm stop; login; sudo mv /home/stefan /home/stefan.bak sudo mkdir /home/stefan chown -R stefan:stefan /home/stefan14:06
stefan_and thats it?14:06
alkisg(05:04:26 μμ) alkisg: (04:56:27 μμ) alkisg: You might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login14:06
stefan_where is .bashrc and stuff from /etc/skel ?14:06
alkisgYou can copy all the files from the old dir then14:06
alkisgIf you want to copy them before login, it's cd /home/stefan; rsync -a /etc/skel/ .14:07
stefan_but users who are freshly added have working desktop environment14:07
stefan_alkisg: I can skip /etc/skel14:07
stefan_and my ubuntu login will; work fine?14:07
alkisgIt will essentially be a new user, and since you're saying that new users log in fine, then yes14:08
alkisgAnd you'll copy the old stuff from the /home/stefan.bak dir afterwards14:08
ubunturocksivan: hey, i did setup the service, as default, it should run when system starts? well, i did start the service manually using 'sudo service gogs start' but not after system boot14:10
kwantHello, if I install the current 17.04 beta and keep updating will I end up with the final release once it's out?14:11
alkisgkwant: yes, but you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1 for 17.04 issues14:13
ducassekwant: until release, that is14:14
stefan_ok thanks14:15
stefan_now my desktop works14:15
stefan_I do have stefan.bak if I ever need something from it14:15
alkisgstefan_: you can move the old documents with nautilus14:15
alkisgOK14:15
kwantalkisg: thanks14:16
alkisgnp14:16
stefan_alkisg: yeah done thanks :_14:17
stefan_and thanks to ivan to14:17
stefan_too14:17
lrojasis it "safe" to upgrade to 17.04 from 16.10 now, or shoudl i wait for the release on april ?14:17
stefan_17.04? I just upgraded to 16.04 :D14:17
lrojasnothing wrong with 16.04, but i kind of like the new shiny coming in 17.0414:18
stefan_alkisg: should I move stuff from /etc/skel now?14:18
technochipsneed help14:19
technochipswhen i record audio with my microphone14:19
technochipsit shows up a very loud static noise14:20
technochipsi know it's not hardward problems, i have ubuntu and windows installed on my computer, and it's working on windows14:20
technochipsi looked up on google, i couldn't fix this14:21
technochipson alsamixer, mic boost is at zero, capture is *kinda low*14:21
technochipsthen when i record again, it just shows a static noise that isn't that low14:22
minimectechnochips: Not that I am probably a big help, but is this a USB microphone or connected via soundcard? What are the 'input' settings in 'settings'>'audio'?14:22
technochipsit's a laptop microphone14:22
ivanubunturocks: did you run systemctl enable?14:23
technochips"Internal Microphone - Built-In Audio"14:23
ivanubunturocks: if you did, maybe something is failing at boot, check journalctl14:23
minimectechnochips: Ok. You could try 'lspci | grep Audio' to get the audio hardware of your computerm and then search the net for <YourHardware> in combination with 'ubuntu'. That's what I would do.14:25
ubunturocksivan: i will check it out14:25
ubunturocksivan: but the service starts with not errors starting it manually14:25
technochipsalso the computer has been bought preinstalled with windows 814:31
impliteAnyone here use a raspberrypi with mate?14:38
implitejust wondering14:39
samirhi all14:40
implitehi14:40
samirneed some help for Ubuntu Mate14:40
impliteIm not sure if there is another channel for that?14:41
samiroh14:41
impliteI was just asking if someone was using a raspberrypi with mate14:41
implitelol14:41
alkisgimplite: there's an #ubuntu-mate channel14:42
implitehaha I was right14:42
implitecool14:42
alkisgimplite: I'm using rpi with mate. I don't like rpi at all though :)14:42
impliteI am really starting to love the rpi14:42
alkisgIt's 50 times slower than a desktop pc...14:43
implitebut i love to mess with coding and hardware stuff14:43
alkisgSo I hate the fact that people buy it for desktops and then complain why it's slow...14:43
implitealso i was a mac guy for awile14:43
impliteand i can find some old mac code that i can hackish make work14:44
impliteits soooo cool14:44
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impliteI wonder how much faster the raspiberrypi would work without a gui or startx14:48
k1l_implite: there is a reason servers dont run desktops :)14:49
implitein the old Dos days old slow computer worked great using all the resources on one program14:50
UnityKrisDoes anyone else have trouble getting display when booting on a dual monitor setup? Like, it doesn't display anything unless I power off and unplug both monitors from their hdmi ports, then plug in only one, then boot, then plug in the other.14:51
impliteare you using sli or crossfire or something?14:52
impliteI dont have this problem but im also using a laptop with 2 monitors14:53
impliteatm14:53
UnityKrisNeither that I'm aware of. Both monitors are technically TV's though. one 39" the other 21". The larger is my default, and plugged in with DisplayPort to HDMI.14:55
UnityKrisMaybe if I swap the cable, use hdmi to hdmi on my main, and displayport to hdmi on secondary?14:56
UnityKrisThat shouldn't matter though would it?14:56
UnityKrisSo, apparently, there is a default boot order for displays on most graphics cards. It goes DVI -> HDMI -> DisplayPort. Can't be changed in OS, maybe it can be changed in bios. Back in a few15:03
vic123Hi, hope fully someone can help.  I accidentally cleared the EFI entry for my install (the defaults/restart was right next to save/exit) and boot-repair did not fix it.  I'm using 16.04, and I was set up as sda1 fat32 /boot/efi, sda2 linuxswap, and system installed on sda3 btrfs.15:07
vic123Is there a way to add a new EFI entry?15:08
yangm97anybody tried zfs on root with a Mac? tried cloning my EFI partition and relevant datasets from my successful ubuntu on zfs install from another computer but all I got on Mac was a grub rescue screen15:08
skinuxHow can I move SceneBuilder menu item from "Other" into "Programming" in MATE?15:09
technochipsskinux: go to the directory /usr/share/applications15:10
technochipsand try to find "SceneBuilder"15:10
technochipsthen edit it with notepad15:11
technochipsfind the piece of text "Categories"15:11
technochipsthen at the end of that line, add Programming;15:12
technochipsnot sure if it's will work15:12
arana-so15:15
arana-where?15:15
technochipshuh15:15
arana-what's the room?15:16
arana-oh where am i now15:16
k1l_arana-: this is the ubuntu technical support channel15:16
arana-are you machine15:17
arana-or people?15:17
compdocwho wants to know?15:17
technochipspretty sure this is two thousand living people15:17
arana-so interesting15:17
dougstew5arana-: are you  a person or a machine?15:18
cslcmI like that you are you a person or a machine. What shall we talk about now?15:19
arana-what is the #ubuntu used to do?15:19
technochips#ubuntu is the official ubuntu support channel15:19
SchrodingersScat!support | arana-15:19
ubottuarana-: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com15:19
arana-maybe i want to say that i am a machine!15:19
k1l_arana-: if you dont have a technical issue please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support15:20
vic123alright... I guess no one's encountered my problem before?  Just checking before I go reinstall.15:20
notenoughmanahi, 'apt-get upgrade' finished with 'W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915         W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915'. How to fix that?15:20
rethushave a failed ubuntu upgrade.15:21
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arana-the last question ok?15:21
technochipswhen will the version 17.04 release?15:22
k1l_notenoughmana: that is not an issue. its a warning. and it means that intel did already include the part to the driver but didnt send out the firmware so far15:22
arana-why the time is 08:21?15:22
rethuscan login on cli, but if i try to do aptitude upgrade --full-resolver it takes hours to find dependencies15:22
k1l_technochips: 13.04. iirc15:22
rethuswhat can i do to do the upgrade again15:22
technochipsk thanks15:22
notenoughmanak1l_: so will everything work fine?15:22
k1l_notenoughmana: yes15:22
BluesKaj!uefi | vic12315:22
ubottuvic123: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:22
notenoughmanathanks!15:22
k1l_rethus: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"15:22
vic123Yes, I've already installed with EFI, but I accidentally cleared the EFI entry in BIOS.  Is there a way to re-add a new entry easily or am I to reinstall Ubuntu?15:24
compdocvic123, what entry are you talking about?15:25
compdocyou turn uefi stuff on or off. turn it back on15:25
Dreamantechnochips  upgreat todey   is stable15:25
Dreamankernel stable unity stable gnome stable15:26
vic123Ok, so when I installed Ubuntu, it created an entry in my EFI table to boot Linux.  For some reason they put the "reset default settings" right next to "save and exit" in my BIOS and I accidentally reset.  It removed the EFI entry that was made when I installed.15:26
Dreamanfinal15:26
technochipsneed help, my laptop microphone records only loud static noises, tried to fix it with google, but i couldn't, also i know this isn't hardward issues, on windows it works well15:27
compdocvic123, sounds like you need to enable the uefi settings in the bios. not sure what table youre talking about15:27
k1l_technochips: dreaman told lies. its not stable yet. its final release is on 13th april as is said: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule15:28
technochipsi know15:28
technochipsi saw your message15:28
vic123EFI is turned on in the bios, otherwise I would not be able to EFI boot to the USB install stick I have.  Resetting to defaults somehow removed the entry that the Ubuntu installer added to the EFI boot menu.15:29
vic123I tried running the Ubuntu boot-repair but it did not fix the problem, and it does not see the sda1 partition I have (/boot/efi).15:30
vic123Someone told me of the possibility of chroot-ing into the install and re-running grub, but I've never done anything like that before.15:32
ivanvic123: grub has an option that makes keeping the boot entry unnecessary by writing a /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI to the efi partition15:35
ivanthe --force-extra-removable in  grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --force-extra-removable --bootloader-id=Linux --recheck15:35
ivanbut yeah you'll have to chroot in to fix it15:36
ivanbasically UEFI motherboards look for a bootloader at the "fallback boot location" designed for removable media, but it's a good idea for normal installs too15:38
ivanbut I assume neither the grub people or the ubuntu installer made it the default :(15:38
SburI need help setting up my printer.  A printer that worked in the past, that I just deleter, but that, when I try to add it back, requires a URL before anything else.  I have Ubuntu 16.1015:39
ivanWindows writes one there on install so it doesn't rely on the motherboard keeping the NVRAM Boot* variables15:39
Dreamanivan farst install is win or15:40
vic123ok.  just going to reinstall... unfortunately that stuff is above my head.15:40
ivanvic123: learning how to chroot in is a good idea15:40
prussiannot like it's hard either15:41
vic123I don't have time today, but I'll look into it.15:41
KenKaniffhey, can anyone here tell me what contents I would need to put in the header and body of a POST if I want to send a soap request as depicted in the following example? https://kasapi.kasserver.com/dokumentation/?open=quellcode15:47
webohaccess denied. I wanted to move something into trash15:48
prussianlike.... curl arguments KenKaniff ?15:49
prussianis that what you're asking?15:49
webohHow do I delete the folder15:49
weboh?15:49
prussianrmdir if empty15:49
SburWhat does this mean .... "Stopped - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoqpdl" not available: No such file or directory"15:49
prussianrm -r if now...15:49
prussiannot15:50
k1l_weboh: there is no trash on terminal. if you delete it, its fone15:50
k1l_*gone15:50
prussianSbur: do you have gutenprint drivers installed?15:50
Sburprussian: I haven't a clue.  I have Ubuntu 16.1015:51
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Sburprussian: And the printer worked before, so I'm lost15:51
prussiani don't know the specific package name but you could try apt search 'printer name' or apt search 'gutenprint' and see what you get15:51
prussianif it's nonfree I don't know what to tell you other than check the manufacturer site or use some generic postfix driver15:52
prussiani mean postscript15:52
webohfone?15:52
prussianSbur: what's the make and model of your printer?15:52
k1l_weboh: its gone15:53
wastrelyou can look on the linx printer database15:53
wastrelhttp://www.openprinting.org/printers15:53
webohk1: it has residue15:53
weboha residue15:53
k1l_weboh: where is the folder you want to delete?15:54
Sburprussian: I have two.  Neither work.  Samsung ML-1600 series, Brother MFC-6490CW15:54
ioriaSbur    that file   '/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoqpdl' is provided by the 'printer-driver-splix' package, that is a recommended dep of ubuntu-desktop15:54
webohcannot trash directory debian15:55
dioohello15:55
k1l_weboh: is that a debian or a ubuntu?15:56
webohKubuntu15:56
webohperhaps ubuntu15:56
k1l_weboh: and what path is the folder?15:56
weboh>Home>Downloads>crap15:56
webohI can't delete crap :(15:57
wastrelis it empty15:57
webohI can't delete the extraction.ugh15:57
webohno15:57
k1l_weboh: that should be removable with user permissions, since its your users home folder.15:57
k1l_weboh: or you ran it with sudo permissions, which is bad15:57
webohdo we need privacy15:57
webohyes sudo permission15:57
webohs15:57
k1l_dont do that in your users homefolder. you dont need to run everything with sudo.15:58
dioohello15:58
webohto late15:58
webohintoo late15:59
Sburprussian: Next problem ... Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!15:59
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k1l_weboh: what is the exact folder name and path?15:59
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weboh>Home>Downloads>crap crap is the folder16:00
webohcrap is not its original name,16:00
webohmaxima protection?16:01
leaftypeinstalled ubuntu-mate on old laptop where wireless doesn't work. Askubuntu says I can type http://paste.ubuntu.com/24300288/ , is this safe?16:01
k1l_the run "sudo rm -rf /home/USERNAME/Downloads/crap"     make sure to set your actual username as USERNAME and that the rest is case sensitive16:01
SburWHat must I do for this  ... "Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!"16:01
webohacess denied16:02
ivanleaftype: looks safe, no idea if it will fix your problem16:02
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webohacess denied to /home/deeno/.local/share/Trash/files/crap (2)16:03
k1l_weboh: so you got that file in the trash already?16:04
webohdoesn't help16:05
webohacess denied to /home/deeno/.local/share/Trash/files/crap <-- the latest16:05
k1l_what doesnt help?`i dont know what you do, what files you have where etc.16:05
k1l_so you have a file in the trash that you want to remove? until now you talked about the downloads folder16:06
UchiHAmadarAtry su16:06
mark76I hate Firefox's new default behaviour of turning tabs into windows at the slightest excuse16:07
k1l_mark76: tell firefox then16:07
webohIt refuse to remove it to the trash folder now. I empty something from the trash16:07
mark76They don't have an irc channel16:08
k1l_weboh: sorry i cant help you. i still dont know what you do there and your statements dont make sense to me.16:08
acheron-bFirefox has been great lately and very responsive to issues16:08
k1l_mark76: they have a own irc server and a bug tracker16:08
warrshrike_hey16:09
warrshrike_how can i run this in background on ubuntu server and log progress to file?16:09
warrshrike_ rsync -azvv -e "ssh -i /export/home/17100148/iioi.pem" ubuntu@ec2-54-209-118-32.compute-1.amazonaws.com:/datadrive/EOEMarket /state/partition1/APPSEC16:09
stevenmIn the fstab... if you've got /dev/sdb1 mounted to /x  ... can some how say (on another line) to bind mount /x/y to /z - only *if* /x was mounted originally?16:09
webohtrash: cannot trash directory `crap'16:09
abcdefystdout redirection16:10
leaftypehuh... nvm, that answer didn't work anyways. So... I have a really old dell inspiron 1501, and the wireless doesn't work. What can I do16:10
EriC^^stevenm: you can write a script for that if you want16:10
stevenmI do not want16:10
UchiHAmadarAanybody who can help me? Whenever i open single application i get windows but while switching using SUPER+TAB they are merged together and then we need to expand it manually can anyone provide with a solution that when i SUPER+TAB i directly get the expanded window? I have UBUNTU 16.0416:11
dioohello my friends16:11
KenKaniffprussian sorry for the late response, hope you still remember my question16:11
KenKaniffI'm planning to execute the sending of the post using python requests, if that's what you're asking16:12
KenKaniffi'm only asking for the contents of the post16:12
abcdefyUshi use workspaces16:13
bumblefuzzhi, I'm trying to run this .jnlp file: http://www.uworld.com/clients/UWorldUSMLE.jnlp but the vendor says it's only for use with Windows and/or Mac... but it's Java...16:13
bumblefuzzanyway, I can't figure out how to make it run in Ubuntu16:14
bumblefuzzI asked in #Java and they said they don't offer tech support16:14
bumblefuzzso, I have nowhere else to go16:14
bumblefuzz:(16:14
morantronhi! do you know why ubuntu now ships with mawk as default instead of gawk?16:15
bumblefuzzhelp?16:16
webohwhat is unix/posix for listing directory with permissions?16:16
bumblefuzzweboh: 'ls -l'16:17
k1l_weboh: ls -al16:17
webohFailed to trash debian in ~/.local/share/Trash, because :[Errno 13] Permission denied: 'debian/control'16:21
bumblefuzzdoes anyone here know some Java trickery?16:21
webohI think I know what I can do16:21
warrshrike_Hey16:22
warrshrike_why has ubuntu interface been stagnant for 6+ years?16:22
webohposix for change user16:22
k1l_weboh: chown16:22
prussianbumblefuzz: IcedTea plugin is what you want16:24
webohoperation not permitted16:24
bumblefuzzprussian: thankyou... I got that far16:24
bumblefuzzthe file starts but then stops16:24
bumblefuzzthere has to be some kind of OS check16:25
bumblefuzzor something16:25
prussiani guess.16:25
prussianjava web start is cancer so I don't really know what to tell you16:26
johnnyCacheIs there someone here who can help me on ssh, I am trying to ssh from my mac to a rasp pi3 using ubuntuMate, went out to the ubuntuMate channel but there was no activity there16:26
qswzhow do you guys add emojis to ubuntu?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Unicode_blocks I used to be able to see most of them on windoze16:26
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wastrelyou have to have openssh-server installed16:27
johnnyCacheyes, that is installed16:27
johnnyCacheI can ping the address of the pi3, so I know it’s online16:27
tehLordVortexwhat exactly seems to be the problem, johnnyCache?16:27
prussianKenKaniff: i really don't know. best guess is to find a SOAP client for python and then send the appropriate json/xml blobls as the documentation shows16:27
johnnyCachewhen I try to ssh into the pi3, all fhat happens is I get a timeout16:28
BluesKajjohnnyCache, show us the command you're using to ssh into the rpi16:28
johnnyCacheI also can locally sign into the openssh-server but can’t do it from my mac16:28
johnnyCacheHere16:29
technochipsqswz: you can try to install this font: https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font16:29
johnnyCacheHere’s the command   ssh rmate1@192.168.1.10216:29
wastrelis there a firewall on the raspi16:30
wastrelcan you ping the raspi16:30
johnnyCacheyes, I can ping the rasp316:30
BluesKajis mate1 the username you chose for the rpi?16:30
johnnyCacheyes, that is the name I chose16:30
bumblefuzzprussian: I agree but that's what the vendor uses... I have no choice16:30
johnnyCacheI ran out of ideas to try so that’s why I am here16:31
qswzthanks technochips16:32
qswzI tried this too http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/enable-color-emoji-linux-google-chrome-noto#comment-297004870316:32
technochipsnp16:32
wastreljohnnyCache: netstat -an  | grep LISTEN | grep 2216:32
bumblefuzzjohnnyCache: if your Rpi is brand fresh, ssh user@1.2.3.416:32
wastrelsee if it's listening just on localhost16:32
bumblefuzzassuming there is a firewall rule allowing port 2216:32
johnnyCachewhat do mean brand fresh ?16:32
BluesKajjohnnyCache, you might get a quicker answer in #raspberrypi chat16:32
bumblefuzza newly install16:33
bumblefuzzno changes/modifications made to system settings16:33
johnnyCacheno, its not a new install16:33
zergutHello, how to use Chrome on 14.04.5?16:33
bumblefuzzfirst you need openssh installed16:33
johnnyCacheYes, openssh is installed16:33
prussianzergut: dpkg -i ~/path/to/chrome.deb16:34
k1l_zergut: load it from their webpage and isntall it. doesnt work with 32bit os16:34
bumblefuzzthen you need either your firewall deactivated16:34
wafflejockzergut, if you need something for 32 bit can still get chromium16:34
webohposix for finding processes in use, so as to kill <process>16:34
bumblefuzzOR a rule added to your firewall to allow incoming traffic on the port that openssh is listening16:34
johnnyCachebut your idea about the firewall is a good one, I’m going to check that out, thanks for the reminder, I forgot all about that16:34
prussianweboh: pkill -TERM process-name16:34
bumblefuzzdefault port is 2216:34
bumblefuzzpeople usually change the port though for security16:35
prussianor pgrep processname then kill it with kill -TERM pid16:35
prussianoOR16:35
prussiankill -term $(pgrep processname)16:35
webohI don't know the name of the process. I need to list processees16:35
prussianps -aux16:35
ivanzergut: get the .deb from google and apt-get install ./google-chrome-whatever16:35
prussianjohnnyCache: is it connected to the network?16:36
prussianip addr show16:36
johnnyCacheI am in the process of checking the firewall, bear with me16:36
tehLordVortexis there a chrome version for arm?16:36
prussianyou can also netscan for it with nmap and find it nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/2416:36
ivantehLordVortex: google doesn't ship linux chrome for arm16:36
ivantehLordVortex: there's probably a chromium16:36
prussianjessielite comes with sshd installed last I saw16:36
bumblefuzzjohnnyCache: 'sudo ufw status verbose'16:36
prussianor raspian or whatever they call it now16:36
k1l_tehLordVortex: i dont think so16:36
zergutokay, i will rephrase question how to update Chrome to last version16:37
zergutit says you have old version about a year? already16:37
prussianchrome binary has an update service16:37
k1l_zergut: it does automatically16:37
prussianyou don't have to do anything16:37
k1l_zergut: do you have a 32bit os?16:37
zerguthow to check?16:37
XzuHi. After a long time, I login today to my 16.04 and check up upgrade. I'm suprised to see "linuximage 4.4.0.971". I'm running 4.7.016:37
k1l_zergut: "uname -a"16:37
ivanzergut: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade  should work unless you lost the chrome apt source16:37
zerguti68616:38
prussianuname -m actually16:38
ivanzergut: heh yeah google doesn't do 32-bit chromes any more16:38
k1l_zergut: that is 32bit. and chrome shut down 32bit support a while ago16:38
prussianlol i68616:38
wastreluname -i16:38
prussianya so you have a 32bit build16:38
zergutit says my system dont supports anymore16:38
prussianreinstall x86_64 ubuntu16:38
k1l_zergut: so stop using chrome. use chromium or another webbrowser16:38
prussiandon't run i68616:39
zergutwhy do they did that?16:39
prussianor what k1l_ said16:39
k1l_zergut: ask them16:39
webohmuon or synaptic then for packages?16:39
prussianif you REALLY want to be inane, you can try qemu-user-static and set the appropriate binfmt's for IA64 ELFs16:39
prussianbut seriously, just install an IA64 system16:39
johnnyCachedid that ip addr show and can see that the pi3 is online16:40
prussianat the appropriate IP you expect?16:40
zergutprussian: what is wrong with i686?16:40
johnnyCacheand like I said I can ping it with no dropouts16:40
prussianand you still can't ssh into it?16:40
k1l_zergut: dont run 32bit os if you have a 64bit cpu16:40
johnnyCacheya, it just hangs and will timeout16:40
zergutk1l_: i cant do anything, right?16:40
prussianzergut: nothing, but google doesn't build nonfree chrome builds targeting i686 anymore, they only target 64bit i686 processors now16:40
k1l_zergut: no. use 64bit os or dont use chrome16:41
prussianjohnnyCache: so you either have a) an entrophy problem or b) wrong password16:41
zergutdamn16:41
bumblefuzzjohnnyCache: do you have access to the RPi?16:41
prussianare you trying to log in as root?16:41
prussianyou can do ssh -v and see wtf it's trying to do16:41
zergutwhat is bad on using 32-bit system on 64-bit hardware?16:41
johnnyCacheyes, I have access to the pi316:41
prussianNOTHING zergut BUT GOOGLE DOES NOT BUILD 32bit i686 debs for chrome apparently16:42
johnnyCacheok, let me do a verbose ssh login to spill some more info16:42
k1l_zergut: the idea to use 32bit os on 64bit ahrdware comes from windows not providing 64bot OS long time.16:42
dstolfaprussian: there is no 64-bit i686, there's only amd64/x86-64, i686 is P6 from Intel, which is only 32-bit16:42
prussianjesus16:42
prussianplease. all modern core Intels are i686 iterations16:42
k1l_zergut: there is no reason to use 32bit os on 64bit cpu.16:42
dstolfaprussian: They're entirely different microarchitectures, what the hell are you talking about dude16:42
prussianno they aren't16:43
zergutim on Celeron N281016:43
johnnyCacheok, it says its trying to connect on port 22 which is correct, right ?16:43
* dstolfa shrugs16:43
prussiannetburst was completely different16:43
dstolfaprussian: Have it your way then lol16:43
pennTellerHi guys, has anybody updated their ubuntu to the latest Kernel version and tried HArdware Passthrough for graphics cards?16:43
k1l_zergut: that is a 64bit cpu16:43
johnnyCachebut it just sits there, no other activity16:43
zergutim using ubuntu about 5 years already16:44
dstolfazergut: Nothing particularly bad other than the fact that you can't access more memory. If there's no official 32-bit support, you're going to have to move away from it though16:44
prussianor stop using nonfree software16:44
zerguti have 2 GB RAM16:44
k1l_zergut: ubuntu had 64bit support 5 years ago too16:44
prussianthat helps too16:44
k1l_zergut: ram is not related.16:44
johnnyCacheOpenSSH_6.9p1, LibreSSL 2.1.816:44
johnnyCachedebug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config16:44
zergutcache?16:44
dstolfak1l_: Yes... yes it is lol16:44
johnnyCachedebug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 21: Applying options for *16:44
johnnyCachedebug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.102 [192.168.1.102] port 22.16:44
johnnyCachedebug1: connect to address 192.168.1.102 port 22: Operation timed out16:44
johnnyCachessh: connect to host 192.168.1.102 port 22: Operation timed out16:44
wafflejockjohnnyCache, use a paste site16:44
dstolfaThe whole point of having 64-bit is so you can access more RAM16:44
k1l_zergut: 32bit OS could only use 4gb ram max, back then. but its false to say, that 32bit os is to be used with less than 4gb ram.16:45
dstolfazergut: You don't need 64 bit with 2GB of RAM, it's only additional overhead16:45
zergutas i said i have 2 gigs of ram and im not planning to upgrade in future16:45
dstolfazergut: You could try with chromium or firefox16:45
k1l_dstolfa: i know. but the <4gb ram needs to use 32bit os is just a bad myth16:45
prussianzergut: then don't use nonfree software built only for an architecture that you don't want to use16:45
zergutso it's okay to use 32 bit in my situation?16:45
prussiansure16:46
prussiando you16:46
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k1l_zergut: its your decision.16:46
zergutfirefox is kinda slow i have it installed already16:46
dstolfak1l_: It doesn't _have_ to, but there is no need for moving to 64 bit16:46
zergutim using in sometimes16:46
zergutit*16:46
k1l_dstolfa: as you see the user desperatly wants to run chrome.16:46
prussianlike i said, you can try qemu-user-static and setup a binfmt interpreter for x86_64 ELFs zergut16:46
Southern_Gentlemzergut,  32bit software will run on a 64bit processor, but you are only getting 50% out of that processor16:46
dstolfazergut: Well, you'll have to use something else other than chrome if it's not built for 32-bit16:46
prussianbut that'd be stupid16:46
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webohdirectory /crap has a lock on itself and the user is root16:47
zergutfor me, it looks like Chrome is more fast16:47
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ivanSouthern_Gentlem: that is not how it works16:47
dstolfazergut: Try chromium16:47
Southern_Gentlemivan yes it is16:47
johnnyCachemaybe the config file for ssh is not set up right16:47
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Southern_Gentlembut we will agrue about that later16:47
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zergutdstolfa: i have to build it by myself?16:47
dstolfazergut: Not if there's an official version that's 32 bit16:47
prussianjohnnyCache: can you confirm the port is open? both being listened on AND externally open?16:48
webohI want to delete directory /crap16:48
ivanSouthern_Gentlem: tell me more about how 32-bit software runs at half the speed of 64-bit software16:48
prussianss -tl shows something like *:ssh ?16:48
k1l_zergut: chromium is in the ubuntu repos.16:48
zergut64/2=3216:48
zergut;)16:48
abcdefyhey16:49
johnnyCachethe pi3 is in the other room let me try the ss thingie16:49
zergutk1l_: is it possible to transfer all the history, passwords and bookmarks to it?16:49
zergutas well as starttab16:49
k1l_zergut: chromium uses the same plugins and you can connect it to your google account16:49
zerguti think im not using google cloud16:50
zergutim not sure16:50
darthanubisyou just sign into the browser with your gmail account16:50
zergutdarthanubis: oh, yes, im signed in16:50
darthanubisthe same account you use for your android phone16:50
zergutno, i meant i think im not share bookmarks and hystory with google account16:51
webohunix for change permissions16:51
darthanubiswhen I do that, chromium/chrome logs me in, and if it is a new instance of the browser, loads all of my extensions etc.16:51
prussianchmod16:51
zerguthistory*16:51
darthanubisit loads those as well. Look in history, or recent tabs from other devices16:51
prussianACLs and SELinux stuff is a whole other beast though weboh16:52
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zergutdarthanubis: could be i turned it off a couple of years ago16:52
darthanubisthat'll do it16:52
zerguta'ight, anyway, thank you guys16:52
darthanubischeers!16:53
zergutChromium or Firefox, i wll try to choose16:53
tehLordVortexchromium vs firefox: which has lower RAM usage?16:55
prussianidk16:56
zerguti think mozilla16:56
zergutbut Chrome is kinda faster for me16:56
dstolfatehLordVortex: Firefox is the likely choice, although I am not aware whether or not they've added sandboxing to it recently and increased RAM usage16:56
zergutInteresting is it subjective belief or objective?16:57
tehLordVortexhmm...16:57
k1l_subjective16:57
k1l_zergut: install both and test yourself what works best.16:57
zergutso, is that mean i want Firefox to be more slowly and that is why it's slow, right?16:57
dstolfatehLordVortex: Chromium generally has to duplicate a TLB entry every time it creates a new tab due to using a sandboxing framework in the likes of capsicum or seccomp16:57
zerguti have both already16:57
k1l_and there is no such thing as low ram usage on browsers :)16:57
dstolfaWith that, you end up in more RAM usage16:57
abcdefyI use debian netinst on a 2gb ram netbook, chromium is smooth firefox is not16:57
webohchown: changing ownership of 'crap': Operation not permitted16:58
webohwhy?16:58
tehLordVortexk1l_: lol, true.16:58
k1l_weboh: depends on what the file permissions are16:58
dstolfaabcdefy: That doesn't indicate a RAM problem, as I've got the same issue on 32GB of DDR4 ECC RAM16:58
zergutyes, yes, it's like more smooth and fast16:58
Emmanuel_ChanelHello! My Android Studio on Linux Mint 18 doesn't emulate the smart phones with Android 6.0 over. I think it's the problem of Ubuntu 16.04 which LM is based on.16:59
tehLordVortexwanna see how far i can go on a 512mb ram android device. i used linuxdeploy to get xenial.16:59
Emmanuel_ChanelSomeone knows the solution?16:59
wafflejock!mint16:59
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:59
prussianEmmanuel_Chanel: uh do you have qemu installed with a KVM enabled kernel?16:59
zergutso, Firefox is the same as Chrome16:59
webohjust a second17:00
k1l_zergut: no, they are not the same17:00
zergutif i see Firefox is slow it's only my internal head problem, right?17:00
webohdrwxr-xr-x 4 root  root      4096 Apr  1 20:46 crap17:00
abcdefyEmm works for me using ubunutu 16.0417:00
Emmanuel_Chanelprussian: apt search kvm says only that qemu-kvm is installed.17:00
k1l_weboh: then use sudo with chown17:00
webohIt isn't deeno, but the user is 'root'17:00
prussianEmmanuel_Chanel: k well, you need qemu-system=x86_64 for android emulation17:01
prussianqemu-system-x86_6417:01
johnnyCacheI can now eat some pi3, I got in, the firewall was set up wrong, to the peeps who gave me suggestions,thanks a bunch for helping out ! Appreciate that !!17:01
prussianpossibly libvirtd17:01
webohE: Invalid operation chown17:01
prussianbut idk17:01
zerguti have 32 tabs in one Chrome window and 7 in another17:01
zergutand it looks okay17:01
k1l_weboh: use chown to set the owner to your user17:01
prussianif you can find qemu-system-x86_64 in your $PATH then something is wrong Emmanuel_Chanel17:02
zergutwhen i have 5-8 tabs in Firefox it looks slow17:02
prussianbut i wouldn't even know without more info17:02
webohit's a miracle17:02
k1l_zergut: i think we sorted the technical issues. the rest of the "what browser do i like more" is a bit offtopic to this support channel17:02
webohthat's incredible because it no longer exist17:02
Emmanuel_Chanelprussian: If it's my problem, how can I fix it?17:02
webohexists17:02
prussianidk it would help if you told me more, like an error message or something17:03
webohsudo chown deeno crap17:03
k1l_Emmanuel_Chanel: mint is not supported here. /cc prussian17:03
zergutk1l_: yes, i get it sorry, i just trying to solve 2 problems in the row ;)17:03
prussianit's not even a mint problem. it's some semi-foss java IDE problem17:03
prussianprobably better off finding the android studio channel17:03
zergutthank you again, and good luck17:04
Emmanuel_Chanelok. I visit.17:04
weboha so thing is how I did it.17:04
Bashing-omweboh: chown syntax is : chown <USERNAME>:<USERNAME> <file_name>17:05
prussianwell the :group is optional17:06
webohBashing: I had to prefix sudo to it. it only worked as 'sudo chown deeno crap'.17:07
prussianwell ya, it's owned by root17:07
webohthen 'trash crap'17:08
prussianand your SELinux policy doesn't prevent sudoers from changing ownership of it17:08
webohBut I am Kubuntu or Ubuntu. ?17:08
prussianuh what?17:09
prussiannevermind17:09
prussiandid you change ownership of the file or not? lol17:10
webohI use KDE ubunuta AKA Kubuntu. SELinux, I don't the relevence.17:10
prussianya just. nevermind17:10
webohSELinux related to Ubuntu?17:11
prussianSELinux is mandatory access control, pretty much every kernel in any major distro has it.17:11
prussianwhether it's enforcing or not is entirely different story.17:11
webohthe directory's name is /crap any'ays.17:12
prussianwell17:12
prussianok17:12
webohI am not australian by the way.17:12
prussianso you want to change ownership of a dir and all it's children? chown -R username dir17:12
prussian-R flag for chmod as well to set unix permissions recursively as well17:13
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webohalready did. but I need to say sudo chown <username>, then 'trash <directory>. <directory> is 'crap'.17:13
prussianok....? so what is the problem?17:14
webohprussian: I believe the sub directories are lost. I hope I don't have to repartition to get memory back. hint hint.17:14
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prussianwhat? oh lol. did you unlink it?17:15
webohI hope there is not a major bug here. hint hint.17:15
prussianthen you're screwed I guess17:15
webohprussian: yes17:15
prussianyou can try and scan through with some recovery tool, files that are unlinked aren't necessarily lost right away17:15
prussianthoguh for the most part, they are17:15
EriC^^what does "trash" do in kde anyways?17:16
webohscrewed storage wise or screwed with 'lost' data.17:16
webohnotice the data is lost, and I expected it to be so.17:16
prussian.........17:16
prussianok17:16
abcdefyDo you guys use "rm" to delete files?17:16
prussianwell I have no clue what you're on about at this point mate.17:16
webohEric: it keeps deleted files. empty trash means you want have it again.17:16
rogierabcdefy, yes17:17
rogierwhat else?17:17
rogier:)17:17
prussianthen you're screwed since you unlinked the files from your filesystem, effectively losing references to them and are thus "deleted"17:17
webohabcdefy: trash command17:17
rogierweboh, ?17:17
EriC^^weboh: look for the files in the trash then?17:17
webohprussian: but I haven't losted SSD space either. Or do I need to repartition? this would be bad, but not as ugly.17:18
abcdefyBecause I usually use rm and rm -rf for folders and I think its quite dangerous17:18
prussianpretty sure empty trash means unlink17:18
webohEric: I am glad they are gone.17:18
prussianweboh: what? if you're using Btrfs, the free space management can only give you free specase estimates17:18
prussianso i don't know what to tell you there as well17:18
EriC^^weboh: ok17:19
weboh21.5 free of 21.6 Gib.17:19
prussiangreat17:19
prussianthen you're good to go17:19
webohDo you want a snapshot.17:19
weboh?17:19
prussianfiles unlinked, they are deleted. good job.17:19
quardHi. Does Ubuntu have a grsecurity kernel in the repos?17:21
kali_Whenever I open software & updates and try to select the "install updates from" choices, it won't actually check them and I can't find out why17:22
prussianapt search quard ?17:22
prussianI doubt it17:22
webohI have taken a snapshot of what I think is a glitch. Is it serious?17:22
prussiani don't think any distro really ships grsecurity stuff other than maybe gentoo17:23
quardapt doesn't show it, but it's probably because I'm on 16.10. grsec is on LTS kernels17:23
quardArch does I think17:24
prussianrip17:24
zeroeaxhi17:26
zeroeaxis there a command-line way to set my default desktop environment to LXDE from a standard ubuntu installation?17:27
qswzplease, if you're using Sublime, upvote https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/136117:28
qswzit'll maybe help to do that faster17:28
wjm-zeroeax: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf17:30
wjm-change session=ubuntu to LXDE.desktop17:30
wjm-and change [SeatDefaults] to read the same.17:30
ashley_does anyone know how to find out what graphics driver I am using?17:35
EriC^^ashley_: lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA17:36
ashley_all that seems to do is identify my card17:36
EriC^^nohting next to driver in use?17:36
ashley_okay, so it says radeon... so... is that the FOSS driver?17:37
EriC^^yeah17:38
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ashley_EriC^^ thank you. I literally have no idea what I am doing with this. I am so used to using the Radeon GUI utility in Windows.17:39
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ashley_is there a graphical utility like the nvidia package has for radeon?17:40
Bashing-omashley_: Be aware on 16.04++ kernels - AMD has gone full support for open source and there is no longer a proprietary driver .17:41
ashley_Bashing-om so... I am best to just leave it alone? It doesn't need any kind of configuration?17:42
Bashing-omashley_: Generally yes ! no other operation on your part is needed . IF you have a bleeding edge card . then there are additional layers one can add .17:43
ashley_Bashing-om is there any way to find out?17:43
Bashing-omashley_: The kernel takes care of it's self for AMD drivers . To know drivers -latest - see: http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/general-interest/11-amd-gpu-support-with-amdgpu-and-amdgpu-pro .17:46
wastrel:(17:46
ashley_Bashing-om ty for the help. It is appreciated greatly.17:46
Bashing-omashley_: Also: GPUs Possibly Supported by AMDGPU and AMDGPU-PRO Eventually <- http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end17:46
ashley_ents - The Linux Documentation Project17:47
ashley_whoops17:47
ashley_Bashing-om great, cheers!17:47
Bashing-omashley_: :) . We are here to help, and help is what we do .17:48
zeroeaxlol, i bricked another one17:48
zeroeaxoops wrong channel17:48
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laurens_hi17:56
laurens_what is the purpose of this chat room17:56
k1l_!ontopic | laurens_17:57
ubottulaurens_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:57
u0_a215Is Ubuntu LTS better?18:02
wedgieit is supported for more than 9 months, so thats a plus if you dont like upgrading often18:03
k1l_u0_a215: better in what sense. first thing is, that you need to upgrade to the next version every 6 months on non-lts.18:03
wedgiethe downside is that they only come out every 2 years so the regular releases may have newer versions of packages18:04
p0bsdoes anybody know how to config ssh x11forwarding on ubuntu 16.04?18:07
wjm-u0_a215: 'most' people will not know the diff between LTS and Ubuntu.18:07
wedgiep0bs: configure it in what sense? what are you trying tondo?18:07
wedgie*to do18:07
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wjm-IRC'ing as root is a bad idea.18:13
p0bsi want to forward the server x to my local comuper, but it nerver worked18:13
Guest28004hello world18:13
ioriap0bs, should be enabled by default now in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, iirc18:14
Guest28004ok18:14
p0bsthe x11fowarding is yes18:14
ioriap0bs, yes18:15
p0bsi tried many times18:15
ioriap0bs,  with -X or -Y flag ?18:15
p0bsbut it didnt work18:15
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p0bsi used xmanager18:15
ioriap0bs,  i don't use it18:16
minimecp0bs: That should work out of the box. just 'ssh <yourname>@<yourcomputer> -X'18:16
ioriap0bs,  try the cli, and change -X to -Y if you have issues18:16
p0bsi will try next time18:17
p0bsthanks18:17
iorianp18:17
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zenguyyou think trump uses ubuntu 16.04 or 17.04(beta)18:23
zenguyhmm probably a mac guy come to think of it18:24
k1l_zenguy: this is a support only channel18:24
zenguyok np :)18:24
Jackson765leave18:24
prussian"support only channel" meh18:25
compdocheh18:25
pheurtonhey anybody know how I can get my amd graphics working properly on ubuntu?18:27
pheurtonI've had to boot in nomodeset and it's all weird18:28
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ioriapheurton, not booting without nomodeset ?18:30
wellickhi, i want to use an usb flash drive to install ubuntu, but despite it being 8 gb it says it's maximum capacity it's only 2 mb. do you know what could be the problem?18:30
ioriawellick, probably format it ?18:31
compdocwellick, sometimes you have reformat and have the program set the size again18:31
MarderIIIdefective or different partitions on it18:31
MarderIIIuse gparted?18:31
compdocsomething you installed only needed 2 mb and set that size18:32
wellicki've formated it and still have the same problem18:32
tomreynwellick: did you buy it new or have you used it before with higher capacity? what is the "it" that is telling yu the capacity now?18:32
compdocgparted might do it18:32
ioriawellick,   what software are you using to create the stick ?18:32
wellickit being stupid windows 1018:32
wellicki will try gparted18:32
ioriawellick,   if you are on linux use dd18:32
wellicki am on windows 1018:33
compdocwellick, for windows use a program named SDFormatter18:33
ioriawellick,   so, rufus18:33
wellickok, using rufus18:35
pheurtonioria it boots to a black screen on nomodeset18:35
ioriapheurton,  ok, but i asked you what happens if you boot 'without' nomodeset18:36
pheurtonsorry I meant without nomodeset18:36
ioriapheurton,  can you paste    lspci -k | grep VGA -A2      (on paste.ubuntu.com)18:37
pheurton00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G]18:38
pheurtonDeviceName: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6620G18:38
pheurtonSubsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G]18:38
ioriapheurton,  don't you have a 'Kernel driver in use: ' line ?   (and i asked you to paste on paste.ubuntu.com)18:41
pheurtonioria, I can't see that line in the output, something to do with nomodeset? (sorry)18:42
ioriapheurton,  sure, sy18:42
ioriapheurton,  ubuntu 16.04 ?18:43
pheurton16.1018:43
ioriapheurton,  so, if you boot without nomodeset you got a  (black screen) ?18:44
pheurtonioria, yep right after the grub menu18:44
ioriapheurton,  your card is not listed in this  list indeed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver18:46
pheurtonioria, so it won't work with the amdgpu driver either?18:46
ioriapheurton,  it's a freash install right ?18:50
ioria*fresh18:50
konradosMorning. Is there any terminal file editor, like nano or vim, but for users who don't want to lean those... weird commands / keyboard shortcuts? Like I want to ctrl+F to find, f3 to find next, ctrl+s to save and escape to quit current mode - I've just pressed Ctr+R on nano to "read file" - and I have no idea how to close it, escape doesn't work, I know I can just press enter to "cancel" it but it's so unintuitive that I got nervous :)18:50
pheurtonioria, yes fresh install from a live USB18:51
wastrelnano is pretty easy, everything you need to know is displayed on the bottom of the screen18:51
wastreli like vim tho18:51
hidvim = life18:51
kk4ewtif you learn vim no matter what linux box you are on you can use vi(m)18:52
ioriapheurton,  i don't know... you can try with ubuntu 14.04 ... it supports fglrx (amd proprietary drivers)18:52
konradosYes - but wastrel - Ctrl+O to *save* a file in nano?  Ctrl+W to *find*? I work with various IDE's - I'm a dev, I use those apps no more than once a day for a minute or so, I just can't remember those shortcuts :(18:53
konradosI mean I use vim/nano no more than once a day...18:54
ChaiTRexkonrados: You might be able to change the shortcuts: https://askubuntu.com/questions/235664/how-can-i-change-the-keyboard-shortcuts-in-nano18:54
pheurtonioria, 14.04 huh. Might give it a try thanks.18:54
ioriapheurton,  no more idead, sy18:54
ioria*s18:54
pheurtonioria, or should I just use a lighter distro18:55
ioriapheurton,  the drivers are the same... but you can try xubuntu18:55
hendr2khello18:55
konradosoh, didn't expect that, pheurton - so I didn't even google that :) - Thanks - I'll play with it:)18:55
hendr2kexit18:55
hendr2kt18:55
hendr2kt18:55
hendr2kawe18:55
hendr2kerag18:55
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hendr2kdf18:56
konradosI meant ChaiTRex - thanks!18:56
MonkeyDusthendr2k  it works, ask your ubutu question18:56
ChaiTRexkonrados: See `man 5 nanorc` for details.18:56
konradossec...18:56
konradosAnd Ctrl+X to exit nano, jeeeeeez...18:57
pheurtonioria, thanks for the help. I thought it would be a bit easier to get the latest  ubuntu working on a 2012 laptop18:58
wastreli hate using ctrl combinations18:58
ioriapheurton,  wait ...18:59
pheurtonioria, yes?18:59
ioriapheurton,  found something about disabling kms ....19:00
pheurtonioria: interesting19:00
ioriapheurton,  https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling_KMS19:01
pheurtonioria: wait, wouldn't that just be the same as setting nomodeset?19:02
ioriapheurton,  maybe it works better ....19:02
pheurtonioria: weird, I couldn't find either of those conf files in /etc/19:05
pheurtonioria: I only found amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf19:05
ioriapheurton,  i think you need to create it19:05
pheurtonioria: gotcha19:06
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ioriapheurton,  put this inside it   options radeon modeset=119:09
ioriapheurton,  in /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf  i mean19:10
pheurtonioria: thanks. so you don't think it was booting with the radeon driver?19:11
ioriapheurton,  now   run  sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u19:11
pheurtonioria: generating /boot/initrd.img...19:14
ioriapheurton,  ok ... how did you set nomodeset in the Grub screen or in /etc/default/grub ?19:15
pheurtonin the grub screen19:15
ioriapheurton,  ok , try to reboot19:15
pheurtonioria: okay see you on the other side my friend19:16
ioriapheurton,  good luck19:16
anony_romaniahi all19:19
konradosI press Ctrl+S in nano, and now I see a "XOFF ignored, mumble mumble" message - how can I rid of that?19:21
konrados*of that message - I just want it to disappear19:21
OerHeksYou typed the XOFF character Ctrl-S. In a traditional terminal environment, XOFF would cause the terminal to pause it's output until you typed the XON character.... = Ctrl+Q (XON)19:26
glachasWhere to ask questions related to ssh?19:27
OerHeksglachas, if ubuntu related, here19:28
BluesKajglachas, if you ssh on ubuntu or it's flavours, this is place19:28
bharhav#ubuntu19:28
BluesKajthe place even19:28
bharhavi have a problem with my ubuntu19:28
glachasOerHeks: ok!19:28
pheurtonioria: hey I'm back in recovery mode19:29
pheurtonioria: now even booting in nomodeset causes a black screen19:29
ioriapheurton,  not working ?19:29
ioriapheurton,  rm /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf19:29
bharhavwhat happens is when i close the lid,  the laptop shutsdown completely. Then when i open lid it starts,  i mean the whole laptop starts then boot menu then login19:30
konradosOerHeks, - thanks!19:30
bharhavi want the laptop to do nothing on closing lid19:30
glachasIn remote server common commands on terminals are not working like 'ctrl+l'. Is there any way to make this work?19:30
bharhavtried all methods19:30
ulkeshI have a Mac sharing folders via SMB.  I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 and when I try to connect to those SMB shares (via smb://IP/ShareName or via smb://IP ), it keeps asking for my password (with a domain called "WORKGROUP").  Any ideas how I can get this to work?  I have SMB turned on and an account specified on the Mac side.19:30
pheurtonioria: removed it19:30
ioriapheurton,  update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u19:31
pheurtonioria: generating...19:31
konradosin here we can read "M- followed by a printable character or the word "Space".  Example: M-C" what is this "M"? I understand the rest of the modifiers (^ and F) - but "M"?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/nanorc.5.html19:31
EriC^^bharhav:did you see settings > power?19:31
ulkeshnevermind, a different piece of the "Network" settings in the file manager for Ubuntu allowed me to specify a user/password without some domain and it works now19:31
t-mart@konrados: pretty sure that's "Meta"19:31
bharhavyes eric...  all those basic settings i tried.  even tried dconf thing19:32
konradossec...19:32
EriC^^glachas: you can use screen to lock the screen19:32
ioriapheurton,  when it finishes , reboot with nomodeset19:32
pheurtonioria: okay see you in a sec19:32
pheurtonioria: thanks so much for helping19:33
konradosHow in nano can we bind a key without a modifier like M F or ^? I want "escape" to cancel current command19:33
ioriapheurton,  there is a buf for your card19:33
ioria*bug19:33
ioriapheurton,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/162491519:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1624915 in linux (Ubuntu) "Laptop monitor does not initially display" [Medium,Confirmed]19:33
pheurtonioria: oh is there? yeah it does seem pretty inconsisten with its boot issues19:33
bharhav please tell19:33
glachasEric^^: Its not for locking the screen its clearing the terminal. Not only this command many commands are not working.19:34
j4g0glachas, ctrl-l is a property of your bash19:34
j4g0man bash19:34
ioriapheurton,  i suggest or xubuntu 16.10 or trusty 14.0419:34
pheurtonioria: yeah I've also experienced the suspend issue that they mentioned19:35
ioriapheurton, with the new version of ubuntu amd/ati are troublesome19:36
pheurtonioria: I'll have a go with 14.04 since it has the AMD catalyst support. although people have told me I should use a different distro altogether19:36
ioriapheurton, trusty is really great, trust me19:36
ioriapheurton, i'am still using it19:37
glachasj4g0: I am remotely accessing ubuntu 16.04 LTS. In which some common commands are not working like 'pressing the upper arrow key should give me the latest command typed on the terminal'.19:37
pheurtonioria: only problem is I hate not using the latest version of anything19:37
ioriapheurton, i see19:37
yukipw10 wins again19:38
yukipeach tterminal has a seperate history19:39
j4g0what shell are you on the remote machine?19:39
j4g0*using19:39
glachasj4g0: GNU 5.6.x19:41
t-mart@pheurton: are you talking about the Ctrl-S thing?19:42
pheurtont-mart: what ctrl s thing?19:43
t-mart@pheurton: someone mentioned it earlier, but nevermind. different thing19:43
pheurtont-mart: ah okay19:43
farribeirohelp to build a snap package... I have built firefox + deb package (as daemon)... not have any document for this19:45
j4g0glachas, what does "echo $0" give out?19:46
tux1Hey guys!19:46
tux1Is anybody here who knows a thing about virtualbox-kernel issues on ubuntu 16.04 ?19:46
konradosI have a nano /tmp/test running in the background, I do sudo killall nano - but htop tells me it's still there, what am I missing?19:46
glachasj4g0: -sh19:46
k1l_farribeiro: #snappy might be the better place19:46
wedgiekonrados: use ''fg'' to get back to it19:47
farribeirogreat... i'm joining now19:47
konradossec...19:47
konradoswedgie, - htop tells me nano process id = 809 so I do  fg 809 and get "No suitable job: 809"?19:48
wedgiebecause process ids are not job ids. use ''jobs'' to see those.19:49
konradosoh... another linux term to learn :)19:50
konradosjobs result - "there are no jobs"19:50
wedgieis this the same terminal from where you started nano?19:50
konradosNot sure wedgie - I have many terminals opened:) Does it matter? OK it seems it does, but why can't I kill it with killall?19:51
ppfducasse: fyi i gave mosh a try. fun little tool, but i doesn't work if there are firewalls or NATs on its path19:51
wedgiekonrados: default signal for kill is "term" which asks the program to shut down nicely. it probably want to prompt if you want tonsave or whatever and so it ignores it19:52
ppfwhich is kind of a dealbreaker, sadly :/19:52
j4g0glachas, on your own mashine (not remote) does echo $0 print out -bash ?19:52
konradosah, thanks wedgie!19:53
wedgiekonrados: you can send the "kill" signal with -9 to force it, but its best to leave that as a last resort19:53
glachasj4g0: only bash19:53
konradosThanks again wedgie - btw - so a "job" is process running in background in current terminal?19:53
konradosI managed to find the terminal I started nano with - and yes, 'jobs' lists it.19:54
konradosWith id == 119:54
wedgiecorrect. put there either by running ''command &'' or by running a command and pressing ctrl+z19:54
j4g0hmk, so your remote box runs another shell (or does not link to bash), see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5725296/difference-between-sh-and-bash for more explanation19:54
wedgiekonrados: so ''fg 1'' or just fg if there are only 1 of them. and fhen exit it nnomally19:55
j4g0to use the properties you know from your own machine, you'd have to change your shell on the remote system19:55
konradosThank you wedgie ! But... I'm pretty sure I won't remember it, because I can't see a logical reason behind this. Why do linux care about in what terminal I started a process, why this difference, why not "processes" only? How is this useful for me that there are "jobs"?19:56
konradosIn what real world scenario those "jobs" are useful for me?19:56
wedgieppf: mosh works with firewalls and nat the same as any other service19:57
wedgiekonrados: frankly i rarely use it. but can be useful if for whatever reason you only have 1 terminal available19:57
ppfwedgie: yes19:58
konradosok, thanks:)19:58
ppfand can't thus not replace ssh for me :)19:58
wedgieppf: uh... alright19:59
konradosThere is no "nano" process according to htop, yet when I do nano /tmp/test I get "file /tmp/test is being edited (by konrad with nano 2.5.3, PID 809); continue?" - and no there is no temporary in this dir like test.lock - what gives?20:01
konrados*no temporary file20:02
wellickit's working =)20:03
gr0gg|exI'm new to networking and think I screwed up my IPTable config for SSH guard. I'm trying to apply the SSHGuard rule to port 22:20:03
gr0gg|exhttps://bpaste.net/raw/02a581d1a95820:03
gr0gg|exDoes that look right?20:03
leaftypehow do I see how much ram the integrated gpu is taking20:03
slyrobotI want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?20:03
slyrobot*This20:03
gr0gg|exWhat concerns me is the two 'all' rules listed above the port 22 rule.20:04
ppfwedgie:20:04
ppfudp get tricky some times with NAT20:05
ppfand the firewall on the remote system is anal20:06
slyrobotAnyone ? I want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?20:06
konradosand "ps aux | grep nano" gives me "konrad    1569  0.0  0.0  15444   928" - I'm really lost here...20:06
konradosWhy htop doesn't show it?20:07
wedgieppf: just need the right portforwards. the one irritating thing about mosh is that you need a bunch of ports, but aside from that its no different from anything else. very similar to torrents in that respect, actually20:07
j4g0konrados, does htop with root access not show it either?20:08
ppfwedgie: yes i realize20:08
slyrobotIs there any fix for that IM problem ?20:08
konradosj4g0, - no it does not, i.e. sudo htop and then F4 to find a process gives nothing20:08
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glachasj4g0: But it should be able to run normal linux commands?20:10
glachasas sh also supports it.20:11
konradosI think I need melissa :)20:11
slyrobotI want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?20:11
konradosI just wanted to change nano keyboard bindings and now I can't kill this darn nano process...20:12
j4g0glachas, instead of ctrl-l the clear command should work, doesn't it?20:12
j4g0konrados sry, i don't usually use nano :)20:12
slyrobotI want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?20:13
glachasj4g0: Ok! understood. It means there are different commands in sh for different purposes which are different than in bash.20:14
LorneHi - I need some patient person to help walk me thru setting up the appropriate CHMOD's for my Plex server to see the files on my external hard drive...anyone?20:14
j4g0glachas, kind of :) the commands should be the same but  the properties may be different20:15
slyrobot want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?20:16
glachasj4g0: Can you tell me where will I get details of commads for sh.20:16
EriC^^glachas: why not use bash on the remote one? it's the ubuntu default shell20:17
j4g0glachas, depending on wheter or not you have root access on your remote machine you could use https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ and change your shell there to bash20:18
glachasEric^^: I don't know how to link?20:18
EriC^^glachas: type "chsh"20:19
xanguaslyrobot: you know, you can just open the telegram web client in any browser or use the telegram desktop app20:19
j4g0glachas, to change shell see https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-linux-unix-freebsd-login-shell/ for example20:19
j4g0konrados, did you try to kill it via kill command or (indirectly) via htop?20:20
slyrobotYes. But i want to use Instant Messaging.20:20
xanguaslyrobot: I imagine the plugin you want to use is a libpurple plugin, so you may wanna check pidgin site or the channel #pidgin20:22
Erick3khi20:22
j4g0ho20:22
glachasEric, j4g0: Its saying 'you may not change the shell <username>'20:23
Erick3ki am changing the disk size and when the machine is turned on gets stuck here https://i.imgur.com/tWkFmqX.png20:23
Erick3kits a cloud image20:24
Erick3kcan someone help?20:24
xanguaslyrobot: I'm reading Morse is a telepathy connector, but it specifically mentioned being a qt telepathy connector.. So maybe doesn't work with empathy? Are you using KDE?20:26
arpit1294hi20:26
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j4g0glachas, did you try to change the shell of a different user than the one you used to shh ?20:26
EriC^^glachas: what's the currently set shell? try "getent passwd <user>" and look at the last column20:27
Erick3kcan someone help me, ubuntu getting stuck at boot after resizing disk20:30
glachasj4g0: Actually, I have admin access to that system to which I am remotely accessing. And yes I tried changing the shell.20:30
glachasEric^^: Currently, -sh20:30
j4g0an bash is available on the system? "less /etc/shells"20:31
j4g0*and20:31
glachasEric^^: The last column is giving me the path of the current directory(I think) "home/<username>".20:32
glachasj4g0: Yes20:32
EriC^^glachas: aha the user doesn't have a set shell then20:33
EriC^^glachas: is the user disabled or something?20:33
glachasEric^^: How to check that?20:34
glachas:(20:34
EriC^^glachas: try "passwd -S <user>"20:35
EriC^^look at the end field20:35
EriC^^*2nd20:35
glachasEric^^: After username ? It is 'P'20:37
EriC^^glachas: that means it's good20:37
EriC^^glachas: try "sudo chsh <user>" and see if it'll let you set it20:37
EriC^^glachas: when it asks for login shell type "/bin/bash"20:38
glachasEric^^: Did.20:39
EriC^^glachas: ok try to logout and back in and it should work20:39
glachasEric^^: It again showing '-sh' when typed "echo $0"20:41
glachas:(20:41
EriC^^getent passwd <user> shows /bin/bash at the end?20:41
s7rawmanI'm getting an error when running sudo apt update. The specific error is Subprocess .../dpkg returned an error code 120:42
s7rawmanany pointers?20:42
EriC^^s7rawman: paste the error info before that in a pastebin20:42
k1l_s7rawman: that is not the full output. so no, there are no pointers with only that line.20:42
glachasEric^^: It is showing username.20:42
konradosI'm really sorry for the stupid mistake I made, when I do the ``ps aux  | grep nano`` it shows me... the "grep" command - and I was sure it's a nano process running. But...20:43
s7rawmanwould you want the sudo dpkg --configure a output? or just the sudo apt update ouput?20:43
EriC^^glachas: try "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash <user>"20:43
konradosBut I still don't know why I get "file /tmp/test is being edited (by konrad with nano 2.5.3, PID 809); continue"20:43
k1l_s7rawman: run sudo apt update and put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com20:44
konradosAnybody? Or should I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2F1rFmyQmY ?20:46
k1l_konrados: there might be some lock file left or such.20:47
s7rawmanpaste link here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24302321/20:47
konradosk1l_, - like... where?20:47
konradosHow can I know this?20:47
k1l_look at the folder where the file is located20:47
konradosYes I did that k1l_ - nothing.20:48
k1l_s7rawman: gzip: stdout: No space left on device20:48
s7rawmanhow do I find which specific drive that is?20:48
k1l_s7rawman: "df -h"20:48
zeroeaxIs there a limit to how much swap space I can have if I used LVM?20:49
glachasEric^^: Now it is working fine. It get changed to /bin/bash. The problem was that I am not updating the database.20:49
zeroeaxlike, if I'm compiling something really massive and it ends up using 10gb of swap, will LVM adjust things so it has that much to use?20:50
s7rawmanit appears /boot is full?20:50
glachasEric^^: j4g0: Thanx :)20:50
k1l_s7rawman: i dont know, i cant see what you see20:50
j4g0glachas: you're welcome :)20:50
EriC^^glachas: no problem20:50
zeroeaxI doubt anything is going to use that much RAM, but right now it only has 2gb of swap and I only have 4gb of ram, and I'm compiling something very big with a very ram expensive version of gcc tailored to the architecture I'm compiling for20:51
willytells7rawman: run "df -h" and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com20:51
zeroeaxso going over 6gb of ram total usage might happen, will LVM adjust to add more swap?20:52
zeroeaxor can I force LVM to allocate more swap?20:52
s7rawmanwillytell: how do I just pipe it to paste.ubuntu.com?20:53
EriC^^s7rawman: command | pastebinit20:53
k1l_s7rawman: df- h | nc termbin.com 999920:53
rhombusI have an external repository added to my system, but synaptic does not see packages in that repository. Why not?20:53
k1l_rhombus: run "sudo apt update"20:54
s7rawmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24302364/20:54
rhombusk1l_: what does that do?20:54
Delvienrhombus: sudo apt-get update20:54
k1l_rhombus: it reads the sources.list and looks at the servers for an recent packages list20:55
OerHeksrhombus, care to share what repo, and on what ubuntu?20:55
k1l_s7rawman: remove some of the not used kernel images packages manually with "sudo dpkg -r package1 package2...."20:56
rhombusOerHeks: It's the xbmc repo20:56
s7rawmank1l_: alright. thank you20:56
rhombusk1l_: I've already done "sudo apt update" numerous times, it has had no effect20:56
rhombusOerHeks: It's like it is totally ignoring the packages in it20:56
k1l_rhombus: did it show any errors then?20:56
technochipsneed help, when i try to record audio, it shows a very loud static noise20:57
technochipsusing my laptop microphone20:57
technochipstried to google it, but couldn't fix it20:58
technochipsmic boost in alsamixer doesn't do anything20:58
k1l_technochips: some laptops have bad wires. try to unplug the energy cable20:58
rhombusk1l_: it does complain with "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11:resource temporarily unavailable)" and "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), is another process using it?"20:58
rhombusk1l_: probably because I have synaptic running20:59
k1l_rhombus: yes20:59
technochipsalso: i made a dual boot, on windows it works well, no static noise20:59
Delvienk1l_:  The energy cable.20:59
rhombusok, so... I've done sudo apt update and it has made no difference21:00
rhombusbut I have checked the repo via its http page and there are packages in there that are not showing up in apt21:00
k1l_rhombus: please put the output to a pastebin.21:00
KiickiIt seems like I have a v-sync issue with the driver "fglrx-updates" Where if V-sync is ON in the Catalyst I will get 30fps in Minecraft. Changing V-sync ON/OFF in the game itself won't matter if the V-sync is on in Catalyst. If I turn V-sync OFF in Catalyst, then I will get screen tear watching Youtube so I kinda need to have it on for that to work. Anyways,21:01
Kiickiwhen V-sync is OFF in Catalyst and it's OFF in Minecraft, I get 60 FPS. I turn ON V-sync in Minecraft, I'm back at 30FPS. It's like V-sync is set to 30fps or something even though I use a 60hz monitor. I use Minecraft as a test kinda thing as it's fast to install21:01
KiickiHope that made any sense21:01
DelvienKiicki: check your refresh rate on your video output with xrandr21:01
rhombusk1l_: which output?21:01
k1l_rhombus: "sudo apt update"21:02
rhombusk1l_: hang on, it's on another machine21:02
KiickiDelvien thanks but how do I do that? If it's more complicated than I will look into it21:02
willytells7rawman, old kernel images packages can be removed from gui or command line, anyway, don't remove your latest kernel image. See the different versions of each kernel image package.21:05
zeroeaxguys, will LVM adjust my swap size if I need more swap?21:06
zeroeaxor do I need to manually tell it to use more swap?21:06
rhombusk1l_: ok, that was a good hint -- it appears the repo in question is not in the sudo apt-get update output.21:06
s7rawmanwillytell k1l_ thank you. I'm getting them removed now. thank you21:06
k1l_rhombus: so what did you add where?21:06
rhombusk1l_: but when I open synaptic package manager and look in settings and other repositories, it's listed there and is checked off21:06
k1l_rhombus: would actually help to see the facts :/21:07
rhombusk1l_: you want to see the output?21:07
DelvienKiicki: just type in xrandr, into a term, and it will show you the refresh rate21:07
rhombusI can give you the pastebin link21:07
k1l_rhombus: yes21:08
DelvienKiicki:  for example, mine says:  1600x900      60.00*+ (on my laptop atm)21:08
rhombusk1l_: I followed the instructions listed here: http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux21:08
rhombusk1l_: under item 121:08
rhombusk1l_: here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/379072721:09
wellickgreetings, trying linux for the first time. I have 2 hard disks, one with ubuntu and the other for storage. I can't seem to be able to find my 2nd disk though...21:10
FAKECLOUDSgood day21:10
technochipswellick: does it shows in the disks application?21:11
KiickiDelvien Thanks, I kinda lied and I'm on Mint atm. I'm just trying different stuff and the command did work but I get a lot of different things here21:11
k1l_rhombus:  "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |nc termbin.com 9999"21:11
Bashing-omwellick: Pastebin the output of terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see then what the system sees .21:11
DelvienKiicki: mint is basically ubuntu, pastebin your output of xrandr21:11
rhombusk1l_: so, for some strange reason, it's not being updated here, but yet it's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d21:11
zeroeaxOk since no one answered I just did a test where I filled my ram with garbage using a looping memory leak in a 20 line C program... LVM will NOT adjust your swap space if you need more21:12
k1l_Kiicki: Delvien mint is not supported here since they change stuff. so ask their support21:12
zeroeaxnow I need to read the LVM manuals to figure out how to add more21:12
k1l_!mint | Kiicki21:12
ubottuKiicki: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:12
Delvienk1l_ I'll support whatever I want to support mind yur beeswax21:12
k1l_!guidelines | Delvien21:13
ubottuDelvien: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines21:13
Kiickihttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24302476/21:13
DelvienKiicki: still, pastebin your output21:13
k1l_Delvien: you can support what you want but not in #ubuntu21:13
KiickiDelvien I was on it. Had to log in to IRC21:13
DelvienKiicki: its running at 60 hz, so maybe its a minecraft problem?21:13
Kiickik1l_ I know but the issue is the same21:13
KiickiDelvien maybe21:13
Kiickibut even with v-sync off there, if I enable v-sync in catalyst, same 30fps issue Delvien21:14
k1l_Kiicki: doesnt matter. ask them. they have own support channels and forums. please keep this channel to the ubuntu users. thanks21:14
DelvienKiicki:  you said you had nvidia right? Turn off adaptive vsync21:14
thatlizdudehi, what USB format is supported on Ubuntu?21:14
KiickiNo, got AMD HD 5450. Using the fgrlx-updates driver Delvien21:14
Ben64thatlizdude: not sure what you mean by usb format21:14
k1l_thatlizdude: you mean for data usb pendrive?21:14
Delvienthatlizdude: everything if you have the right FS "libs"21:15
rhombusk1l_: termbin.com/21qs21:15
wellickBashing-om: https://pastebin.com/HEVhNQ4n21:15
thatlizdudeLike NTFS, FAT21:15
thatlizdudei have mine ExFAT I think and it can't be read21:15
Ben64thatlizdude: pretty much everything21:15
k1l_rhombus: so what package do you want to install?21:15
DelvienKiicki: one post said "dont use vsync. and use fast math instead in the performance settings" dont know what that means, but hopefully it helps21:16
Ben64thatlizdude: you'll want to install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils21:16
thatlizdudeok thanks21:16
rhombuskodi, from the xbmc repo21:16
rhombusk1l_: kodi, from the xbmc repo21:16
geirhawhat does   apt-cache policy kodi   output?21:17
Bashing-omwellick: Your drive is seen , 1sr drive of 640GB has ubuntu, and the 2nd 1000GB is stirage with a Windows file system, NTFS , How are you trying to access the 2nd drive ?21:17
k1l_rhombus: "apt-cache policy kodi | nc termbin.com 9999"21:18
wellickther 2nd drive is an external drive I have connected. But I also have a 2nd internal drive.21:18
wellickI know it's there and working, I've been using it with windows 7.21:18
rhombusk1l_: termbin.com/rstu21:19
k1l_rhombus: sudo apt-get install kodi21:19
wellickwhen I click files it should appear somewhere around "Computer", I suppose...21:19
rhombusk1l_: then it installs the the wrong package -- 2:14.2~git20150327.1058-final-0precise21:20
rhombusk1l_: which is not what I want21:20
rhombusk1l_: the repo contains 2:17.121:20
k1l_rhombus: but that is what the ppa contains21:20
Bashing-omwellick: What Windows calls a drive is actually a partition , That 1st drive only has ubuntu on it .21:21
rhombusk1l_: the ppa contains this: https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa21:21
k1l_rhombus: you run ubutnu 12.04 (which is from 2012 and looses support in few days).21:21
k1l_rhombus: so you need to look what packages are for precise in that ppa. not the latest one you find.21:21
wellickbashing-om: interesting thing is, I don't remember my primary drive having so many gigas. is it possible that ubuntu is considering those 640 gb as the sum of the two disks?21:22
rhombusk1l_: ah -- so it is distro version dependent21:22
rhombusk1l_: sorry, I am a Gentoo user, we don't have "distro versions" :)21:22
k1l_rhombus: use the "published in " dropdown, to let it show you the 12.04 pacakges21:22
rhombusk1l_: ah, ok21:22
k1l_rhombus: yes, you have the nearly dead release21:22
rhombusk1l_: now I get it21:22
wellickBashing-om: a btw, I just installed ubuntu and erased windows 10. that drive was deleted but the contents of the 2nd drive, should be there, right?21:23
rhombusk1l_: I guess "Long-Term Support" doesn't mean "Forever Support"21:23
Bashing-omwellick: When ya look at the numbers . all that is on that drive is linux . - but ' sudo fdisk -lu ' will relate better to the numbers .21:23
k1l_rhombus: no, it means 5 years support. instead of 9 months for the non-lts21:23
Delvienwellick: yes21:23
Bashing-omwellick: IF there were 2 physical hard drives in the machine then yes - that other drive should not have been touched . When you boot up, does bios show 3 drives presently ?21:24
rhombusk1l_: ok, thank you for your help, I learned a few new things21:25
Ben64rhombus: now time to upgrade to at least 14.0421:25
wellickBashing-om: haven't booted yet21:25
rhombusBen64: I'm going to do that21:25
sweatsuitnavigate21:26
sweatsuitexit21:26
Bashing-omwellick: My concern here is that you have replaced Windows with ubuntu on that 1st drive .21:26
wellick1st or 2nd? you mean my drive that didn't have windows?21:27
wellickI had most things backed up so it's not catastrophic.21:27
Bashing-omwellick: On that 2nd drive is a single partition .. do not think that could possibly be the Windows Operating System .21:28
wellickBashing-om: I ejected my external drive and typed that command again: https://pastebin.com/yVScvbdT21:30
technochipsneed help, when i try to record audio using my laptop microphone, it shows a very loud static noise. it did this since i installed ubuntu, twice. it got a dual boot and on windows the microphone works perfectly. tried to low the mic boost on alsamixer, it just made the static noise less loud.21:31
arpit1294     fuck21:32
Bashing-omwellick: Uh Huh, and only the single internal drive is now seen, This drive "Disk /dev/sda: 640GB" only contains a linux file system ( sda == Serial Device 1 - where a is 1 ) partitions are as sda1 sda2 sda5.21:33
wellickBashing-om: it seems this problem I'm having is not uncommon. let me try some google fu.21:35
Bashing-omwellick: We remian here to help guide and assist .21:36
wellickof course. thank you.21:36
Bashing-omwellick: Gint, If bios does not see a 2nd hard drive . the system will not either . very likley a 2nd physical drive does not exist .21:38
Bashing-omHint*21:38
wellickI«m pretty sure it's there. I was just moving files there 30 minutes ago. Only thing that changed was I intalled ubuntu and deleted windows 1021:40
Bashing-omwellick: " erase disk and install ubuntu" does just that . no more Windows with that install option .21:41
wellickyep. i'm fine with no windows for the moment.21:42
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Erick3kany idea why ubuntu getting stuck at https://i.imgur.com/7flnrI9.png22:03
zeroeaxI'm no expert, but based on the limited about of debugging output we have, it looks like one of your drives in a 3 drive 2 unique and one backup, failed, and it's trying to use the backup drives XOR results combined with the working drive to reverse the XOR and recreate the failed drives data22:05
zeroeaxthis is just a guess, and requires more information to verify or disprove, we need more than that screen shot22:06
zeroeaxCan you get us full logs of the boot sequence, and maybe run SMART scans and filesystem checks on the drives if the logs don't point to something else?22:07
zeroeaxLike I said, I'm no expert22:07
zeroeaxI'm just an armature kenrel and hardware hacker with no experience running RAID on linux, but that's what those errors make me guess is the problem22:08
Erick3khehe thanks22:09
Erick3kwell is really complicated and am not sure whats going on22:09
Erick3ki create a vm from template, works22:09
OerHeksErick3k, you might want to repost in #ubuntu-server too22:09
Erick3kturn of that vm, create a template from it, machine don't work22:10
Erick3kok22:10
zeroeaxIt looks like it started doing something related to a raid error and is just continuing doing that without any progress output, but that screen shot isn't enough for me to try and verify that guess22:11
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adrian_1908I have a question about "snaps". Can I create these as downloadable packages like Debian archives, or do they have to be registered with a central databased?22:22
adrian_1908*database22:22
OerHeksadrian_1908, you can build and publish on ubuntu store or git https://snapcraft.io/docs/build-snaps/publish22:26
adrian_1908thanks!22:27
brother_BrewerNewbie question. Has anyone else been having trouble getting their ethernet connection to open? I've checked cords on both ends, rebooted the router and the laptop with no success.22:29
OerHeksbrother_Brewer, seen that only with windows10 + fastboot enabled, that prevented the use of networking & usb22:30
OerHekselse see if the device has a driver in use, 'ifconfig' would tell22:31
JuPanamesorry :x22:33
DarkByD3signEvening all, anyone around to ask a security question.22:34
Menzador!ask | DarkByD3sign22:37
ubottuDarkByD3sign: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:37
DarkByD3signI've created a VPS from a well known cloud service. I've created my ssh key in putty gen and added it to the details on the cloud service so I can log in. Do I need to edit anything on the server side like in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?22:39
MenzadorDarkByD3sign: I found a tutorial that might help: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-tunneling-on-a-vps22:41
AssociateXI have been trying to figure out why my laptop runs so slow. Programs are slow to start and close, everything is very laggy. Any help on where to start looking would be great.22:42
DarkByD3signAssociateX, thank you, i'll check it out.22:42
AssociateXDarkByD3sign, you tagged the wrong person in your last comment.22:43
DarkByD3signAhaha oops.22:44
DarkByD3signMenzador, thank you, i'll check it out.22:44
MenzadorAssociateX: Run [ inxi -F | curl -F https://ptpb.pw?u=1 ] and paste the link22:47
Menzadorerr, not that22:47
MenzadorAssociateX: Run [ inxi -F | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw?u=1 ] and paste the link22:47
pheurton.mode22:47
cmecca_hey all -- i'm finding that `apt-config dump` is not reflecting the settings im changing in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d files.  is there a way to 'refresh the running config' without a reboot; (some settings arent even reflected after a reboot actually) [14.04lts]22:47
FXprohow do you iinstall drivers via .sh script?22:48
AssociateXMenzador, I will have to install inxi, bbs.22:48
MenzadorAssociateX: You're also going to need curl22:48
AssociateXMenzador, installing that also.22:49
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/38661/how-do-i-run-sh-files22:50
OerHeksbut installing drivers with a sh script are usuall untrusted. on ubuntu, that is.22:51
AssociateXMenzador, https://ptpb.pw/HX3q22:52
cmecca_- or is there a way to forcefully change the running configuration of apt22:52
OerHekscmecca_, sudo apt update would22:54
FXprothe thing says "network service discovery disabled"22:55
MenzadorAssociateX: Are you using any proprietary drivers?22:55
cmecca_OerHeks: cool ill try that - thanks22:55
AssociateXMenzador, this might be a little easier to read: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303178/22:55
MenzadorHaha, yes that would22:55
AssociateXMenzador, for my HP printer I am for sure, I would have to look for anything else.22:55
MenzadorAssociateX: Well, hplip is almost a necessity for HP printers22:56
FXpro"your current  network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the avahi network service discovery.  the service has been disabled"22:56
AssociateXMenzador, I agree22:57
MenzadorAssociateX: Can you look at top and see what processes have negative levels of nice?22:58
Menzador(i.e., run [ top ]22:58
Menzador)22:58
AssociateXI have top running, let me look. While you're waiting check this out https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303197/22:59
AssociateXMenzador, there are a lot that are at -20, a few called kworker23:00
AssociateXMenzador, *kworker/0:0H23:01
MenzadorAssociateX: Are you running KDE?23:02
AssociateXMenzador, yes23:02
AssociateXbut I can run blackbox or flux if you would rather me.23:02
MenzadorAssociateX: Start a Fluxbox session for me.23:03
AssociateXOK, bbs23:03
AssociateXI'm back.23:10
AssociateXMenzador, I'm back.23:10
MenzadorAssociateX: Sorry I had to step away23:12
MenzadorOK23:12
MenzadorNow check top again23:12
MenzadorAssociateX: ^23:12
AssociateXMenzador, kworker/0:0H kworker/1:0H and so on are all -2023:12
MenzadorHmmm.23:13
AssociateXMenzador, I don't need KDE in my life, I just like a lot of their apps.23:13
MenzadorAssociateX: All isn't lost, join #kubuntu and see if they might be able to help.23:14
AssociateXMenzador, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303299/23:15
MenzadorAssociateX: It looks like Google Chrome is what hates you23:17
MenzadorTry another browser23:17
AssociateXMenzador, OK, like which one?23:17
AssociateXMenzador, or is there a way to fix that?23:17
MenzadorAssociateX: At most Firefox, if not something that's basically a WebKit wrapper23:17
MenzadorWell, Chrome is a giant kludge to begin with.23:18
AssociateXMenzador, well, I have opera installed already.23:18
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MenzadorAssociateX: Kill all instances of Chrome and see if Opera is better to you. It's Chromium-based so I can't promise anything23:19
BenderRodriguezThis is driving crazy23:31
BenderRodriguezI have enabled the 8021q module and added the necessary config in /etc/network/interfaces file to enable ens3.20 interface (a vlan interface) to come up at boot time23:31
BenderRodriguezThis works fine in one linux host and I can see the interface is coming up onlien just fine23:32
BenderRodriguezbut on another machine, at boot up, the interface doesn't come up23:32
BenderRodriguezI have to manually run vconfig to add the vlan and restart the networking service to enable it23:32
BenderRodriguezAny ideas as to the cause?23:32
snkcldi have ubuntu installed on my laptop, and i want to install it on my usb drive. can i apt-get install the ubuntu installer program which is found on the live iso's to do this?23:33
BenderRodriguezsnkcld: you can use dd to write the iso image directly onto the usb23:34
BenderRodriguezif that's what you're asking23:34
BenderRodriguezBut any idea on my issue anyone? :(23:34
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snkcldBenderRodriguez: yea i know, but i want to do the install like a regular install23:35
Bashing-omsnkcld: "i want to install it on my usb drive" . How large is this drive ?23:36
BenderRodriguezoh23:36
snkcldBenderRodriguez: 16G23:36
BenderRodriguezjust run it as a persistent live CD23:36
BenderRodriguezproblem solved23:37
snkcldlol ok23:37
snkcldso... is the installer app not available to be installed, then?23:37
snkcldmy question is not which method is best, but i do appreciate the extra info23:37
snkcldmy question is, is that app something available in the repo, and whats its name?23:37
Bashing-omsnkcld: 16 gigs will be real tight . Wont leave much to install anything else .23:38
snkcldBashing-om: the install on my usb will only be used for maintenance on my laptop so i wont have to install anything large23:38
BenderRodriguez*shrugs*23:38
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snkcldheh23:40
snkcldill just use the debootstrap method23:40
Bashing-omsnkcld: identify the USB device ' sudo fdisk -lu ' and from say a liveDVD ' wipe disk and install ubuntu"  onto the correct drive .23:40
AssociateXMenzador, do you see anything wrong here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303412/23:44
MenzadorAssociateX: Looks OK. Is your system still sluggish?23:45
AssociateXMenzador, not that I can tell yet. Just at log in at sddm.23:46
MenzadorAssociateX: You mean you didn't start Opera yet?23:47
AssociateXMenzador, no, opera is running right now with 5 tabs open.23:48
MenzadorAssociateX: Oh, so only SDDM felt laggy23:48
MenzadorAssociateX: Have you tried with plain ol' Chromium? [ sudo apt install chromium-browser ]23:49
AssociateXMenzador, yeah, it is for sure. I type in my password, hit enter, and it just sits for the longest time, maybe 20 seconds before there appears to be any log in activity.23:49
AssociateXMenzador, I have not used chromium for a while.23:50
MenzadorAssociateX: That's typical with loading KDE though.23:50
AssociateXMenzador, even while logging into flux or bb.23:51
MenzadorI have ever achieved a loading time of less than 15 seconds on a hard disk with 2 GB or more of RAM.23:51
MenzadorWell, yeah, SDDM in general is like that23:51
AssociateXNot load time, but rather starting to work time. It take almost 2 minutes to boot my computer to a desktop.23:51
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Menzadorbrb23:55
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