[00:00] <OerHeks> ubuntu-mate, ABBA split up.
[00:00] <OverrRyde> olmari: i do believe everything is setup for it, it did not install the server version of ubuntu, xfce has actually been installed as well
[00:05] <jackson435> dn1987p: I cannot figure out how to check the permissions on it. I can't even find the file lol
[00:05] <nktn> hey, how do I start tmux from cli with 3 panels and a specific layout?
[00:07] <PipeItToDevNull> nktn, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5609192/how-to-set-up-tmux-so-that-it-starts-up-with-specified-windows-opened
[00:07] <lerner> i just copied a file, 5GB, from an external hdd usb 3 to my home dir. Usb 3 just gave me 40MBpS, but on another HDD, also usb3, I got like 80MBpS. Both are samsung satas. What can explain such difference?
[00:08] <olmari> lerner: well plenty possibilities... slow HD, slow USB-controller, for starters...
[00:08] <olmari> assuming connected to usb3 bus
[00:08] <lerner> olmari, usb bus
[00:09] <lerner> olmari, so, wait, both samsungs are satas, meaning I bought an external enclosure for each of them. Does that mean the enclosure is defective?
[00:09] <Syzygy> I had ubuntu 14.04 installed and updated it to 16.04 - however due to the random issues the update process got stuck late in the process and I had to restart my notebook. seems it worked anyway and i'm now logged into the 16.04 installation.
[00:10] <olmari> lerner: well swap disks around on enclosures and test again
[00:10] <Syzygy> is there anything i can do to make sure that everything is ok with that installation?
[00:10] <lerner> aargh...
[00:10] <lerner> more work
[00:11] <olmari> lerner: figure out some test that you do on both discs now, then if diffirent results, swap out and again.. can't figure out any more simpler test than that, assuming everything else is same
[00:12] <lerner> olmari, ?? now the 'slow' sata transmits with 80MBPS...
[00:12] <olmari> lerner: it matters do you transfer one huge file or million tiny ones...
[00:12] <olmari> lerner: but all this is unrelated to ubuntu really
[00:12] <lerner> olmari, this second file is 8GB
[00:13] <lerner> olmari, I just assumed if I copy files using thunar I should ask here
[00:13] <lerner> much appreciated olmari , ill follow how my satas react
[00:14] <OverrRyde> olmari: i think i got disconnected, i might have missed your response to my vnc/headless problem
[00:14] <olmari> lerner: you'll never get "full" speed with copying many small files (versus few big ones)
[00:14] <Syzygy> Supposedly I now have a 17gb swap partition on my SSD. How can I safely resize that and add it to the partition I'm running linux on?
[00:15] <nktn> PipeItToDevNull, thanks!
[00:16] <kgb> hey, um, peoples... dat girl, 'angel-swe', that had been around - trying to (re)install; anyone know what ended up happening?! i'm not holding any logs @freenode! :f
[00:17] <lerner> ill keep that in mind... I once copied 97GB of data onto said sata. It started with huge speeds (550MBpS), and it progressively slowed down to 70MBpS. What I dont understand is, why did it stop for 12 seconds every time a file was copied?
[00:17] <kgb> ... she made it, computer burnt up on re-entry? xd
[00:17] <kgb> or? :-0
[00:18] <kgb> *last was: [02:24:35] * [angell-swe] (uid137709@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eifixqfcizbkuwax): swecode
[00:19] <olmari> lerner: well likely RAM is used to cache fileoperations... that can skew the results too like that... and also likely that if OS waits data t really be written to disk, when file buffer itself is "fully copied", OS is still writing data to disc, hence waiting at the end as OS is emptying cache to disc
[00:20] <lerner> thx olmari
[00:26] <valkyrie114> Hey
[00:26] <valkyrie114> I'm having issues using my trackpad on my Alienware 13 R2 after installing Ubuntu
[00:26] <valkyrie114> Can someone help
[00:27] <YankDownUnder> valkyrie114: Wassup?
[00:27] <valkyrie114> ^
[00:27] <valkyrie114> What I said before
[00:28] <YankDownUnder> valkyrie114: Be more descriptive, please.
[00:28] <valkyrie114> Not sure how "vague"
[00:28] <valkyrie114> THis is
[00:28] <valkyrie114> This is *
[00:28] <valkyrie114> lol
[00:29] <valkyrie114> I'm being pretty specific as is
[00:29] <valkyrie114> My trackpad simply doesn't work
[00:29] <valkyrie114> In Ubuntu
[00:29] <YankDownUnder> valkyrie114: Doesn't work - that's a bit more specific. Right. So you've plugged it in, Ubu doesn't recognise it, yeah?
[00:29] <VentGrey> Can you please run the command "lspci" in your ubuntu terminal (control + alt + T) and search for a synaptics touchpad or similar device?
[00:29] <valkyrie114> Jesus
[00:30] <valkyrie114> Nevermind YankDownUnder
[00:30] <valkyrie114> I'll work w/ someone else
[00:30] <valkyrie114> Sure VentGrey
[00:32] <billythekid> Hey guys
[00:32] <billythekid> I just had a completely weird issue and though to share it incase you got any ideas.
[00:33] <billythekid> I got an IO error that files where missing while downloading. Soon I found out that my HDD has like if it was restored to 2 months ago! Old versions of files, different structures etc.
[00:34] <billythekid> With great disbelieve in my own eyes I rebooted and the file system is back without any problem....
[00:34] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: And you've gone through all the logs?
[00:35] <billythekid> that is nuts and really really scary at the same time. Any thoughts what the help could have happened?
[00:36] <billythekid> @YankDownUnder Nope... I don't really know what to look for
[00:36] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: Strange? Yes. Very. I'd be thinking about *what were you doing prior to the issue showing up* - and browse through the system logs to see where the aberration came from...long and boring, but informational.
[00:36] <OverrRyde> exit
[00:36] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: Anything that might be pointing to I/O errors, filesystem errors, kernel errors, fuse errors...
[00:37] <billythekid> will do thanks
[00:37] <billythekid> just a clarificaiton. I have some encripted zip files. I openned them and I found old versions
[00:37] <billythekid> meaning binary files have actually restored
[00:37] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: "old versions" - of stuff that's already in existence, yes?
[00:38] <billythekid> yes!
[00:38] <billythekid> and I mention that to stress that are binary
[00:38] <billythekid> and if corrupted they would never open
[00:38] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: "Found" - you had these archived...and stored somewhere...what are they - backups?
[00:38] <billythekid> it is like my fucking pc is April fooling me right now :p
[00:39] <billythekid> the backup is on an external disk so there could not have been any accidental restore
[00:39] <YankDownUnder> billythekid: Far out...dig through the logs, bro...meanwhile, I'm off...catch ya shortly.
[00:39] <billythekid> the only thing I am thinking is that encryptfs
[00:40] <billythekid> perhaps it's a f**up there
[00:40] <billythekid> cool mate I'll have a look thanks for the tip!
[00:43] <dgm78> Hi! When I try to set with v4l2-ctl get error operation not permitted... Why?
[00:51] <wastrel> what's v4l2-ctl
[00:54] <OerHeks> !info qv4l2
[00:54] <OerHeks> :-P
[00:57] <promet> I keep seeing vestiges of the upstart service, was there not a big brouhaha, and upstart got thrown over for systemctl? Or...have a I just not been paying attention?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> promet: upstart might be removed in 17.04 . maybe .
[01:15] <Guest29087> I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 into an SSD, but I am in a Live CD session in Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't burn a new CD (since the drive is being used), and I am wondering what the easiest way to do this. Can someone please hlep?
[01:16] <anakondah> hello
[01:16] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: 'dd' the .iso to a USB thumb drive ?
[01:18] <anakondah> Bashing-om: yes
[01:18] <Guest29087> I don't have a free one right now. What if I run the installer, and tell it to install in the SSD. Won't it upgrade to 16.04 automatically?
[01:19] <Syzygy> Can someone recommend a programm for opening extreme resolution image files?
[01:19] <Syzygy> like a 500mb tif file.
[01:20] <anakondah> Syzygy: gimp
[01:20] <anakondah> Guest29087: if you pray, yes it will
[01:21] <Guest29087> :)
[01:21] <Syzygy> anakondah: thank's i'll try it.
[01:21] <bazhang> anakondah, thats not helpful at all
[01:22] <Guest29087> anakondah: I believe I can install and update later, right?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: Maybe worth a shot, but I do not think so - as 15.04's repo has been tunred away .
[01:22] <Bashing-om> turned*
[01:22] <Guest29087> bashing-om: what does that mean?
[01:23] <olmari> Guest29087: if you really REALLY doesn't have any other hardware, you can install whatever is on the current cd, boot it, then burn the curent ubuntu into disc and then install it...
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: No access to a 15.04 software repository .
[01:23] <Bashing-om> !eol | Guest29087
[01:23] <Guest29087> That sounds bad.. I also have Unetbootin. Is that a good option?
[01:25] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: a "Good option" is the USB .
[01:25] <Syzygy> ... It would be nice if gimp would scale it's ui with the OS...
[01:27] <Guest29087> TBH, I am afraid I am going to mess up my partitions. When I try the installer, it asks: "Do you want to unmount the partitions [/dev/sda] before continuing? (...)"
[01:27] <Guest29087> And why are those messages always copy protected?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: Correct, right ! DO not write to the mounted sda ! // did you mount sda in the live envirnment from say the GUI file manager ??
[01:29] <Guest29087> I don't believe I did. How can I check?
[01:30] <Guest29087> I mean, the physical machine has a spinning HD that should not be in use. I was hoping it would try the SSD
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: in the live environment - ctl+alt+T to gain a command interface . here exexute terminal command ' mount ' . will show all that is mounted .
[01:31] <Guest29087> What does it mean  to unmount the partition? Will the system just stop seeing it, or something bad
[01:32] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: IF you are running from the liveDVD, then un-mounting sda will have no adverse effects .
[01:32] <Guest29087> Done it. There seems to be a lot of stuff mounted
[01:33] <Guest29087> Yes, I am in the live CD session right now
[01:33] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | Guest29087 Here we can see what you see .
[01:34] <Guest29087> Oh, and I just clicked the eject buttons in the GUI
[01:34] <Guest29087> So I guess they should be unmounted now?
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Guest29087: Can not say . A lot depends on how and why they were mounted . Nad things can result in shutting the system down when files (mounted) remain  in open states .
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Bad bad *
[01:39] <Guest29087> Actually, now the installer is frozen and wont quit. How can I kill it?
[01:39] <Guest29087> I can't find it in top
[01:40] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | Guest29087
[01:42] <Guest29087> ubottu: very interesting. Thanks
[01:42] <Guest29087> ubottu: really?
[01:42] <Guest29087> Cool. How does that work?
[01:43] <Guest29087> What else does that bot do?
[01:43] <ChaiTRex> Guest29087: That's all that the bot does.
[01:44] <OerHeks> !bot
[01:44] <ChaiTRex> Lies!
[01:44] <notmike> Ubuntu? More like ubuntunotfunny! Hahaha
[01:45] <Guest29087> ChaiTRex: That is a bit disappointing :)
[01:47] <kj4> grape
[01:47] <kj4> htop
[01:48] <pfifo> anyone here come up with a solid system for dealing with hard to use unicode characters? Everytime I want to write a math equation I have to tediously google every greek character I need, copy, paste.... Ugggh, my head hurts already
[01:49] <kj4> qcd /media/2t
[01:49] <kj4> cd p1
[01:49] <kj4> ls
[01:49] <Guest29087> Anybody here uses unetbootin?
[01:49] <kj4> cd ../p2
[01:49] <kj4> ls
[01:49] <kj4> du -h
[01:49] <olmari> kj4: stop
[01:49] <kj4> exit
[01:51] <olmari> pfifo: well for long-term, set greek keyboardlayout and type in (if possible even), next best learn their "number" and type in manually (still tedious)... and maybe laziest shit, copy all chars and safe to file for later use..
[01:52] <notmike> Unban me gay
[01:57] <Didact69> is there a gui for PS ?
[01:57] <learner> hey guys, using ubuntu xenial (16.04), I want to create shared launchers for all users, I create the .desktop launcher in "/usr/share/applications/" and restart, and yet, it doesn't show up. What am I missing?
[01:57] <pfifo> I want a tool that will convert the text 'delta squared plus three' into what you would expect
[01:58] <olmari> pfifo: for math maybe some nice mathml language or so... not that I know exact plugins, but there are stuff like that
[01:59] <olmari> meaning you write more of "sqrt(2)*44" and so on and it will show up as exactly like math needs it
[01:59] <olmari> instead of "just" resorting to greek alphabets
[02:10] <Didact69> I told banshee to scan my music library and it went black, how do I know if it's doing anything, it's taking forever
[02:10] <ivan> Didact69: ps auxw | grep banshee to find the PID then strace -p PID
[02:11] <ivan> (sudo strace, actually, unless you change the yama ptrace_scope thing)
[02:16] <Didact69> ivan ty
[02:17] <Didact69> k, it says poll... stuffs
[02:19] <Didact69> oops did wrong process
[02:20] <Didact69> strace: Process 12076 attached
[02:20] <Didact69> futex(0x30cc22c, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL
[02:21] <ivan> if you have the right PID and it's not scanning a bunch of files it's probably stuck
[02:22] <ivan> Didact69: the other thing you can do is install iotop and run it and look at the DISK READ column
[02:30] <holo_> 0.0.
[02:31] <mequarks> mattz
[02:35] <Guest86716> After trying to apt-get install p7zip-full, I get: "E: Package 'p7zip-full' has no installation candidate". How can I install it?
[02:37] <YankDownUnder> Guest86716: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full ?
[02:38] <Guest86716> I am trying to install unetbootin
[02:38] <learner> hey guys, using ubuntu xenial (16.04), I want to create shared launchers for all users, I create the .desktop launcher in "/usr/share/applications/" and restart, and yet, it doesn't show up. What am I missing?
[02:38] <Guest86716> yankdownunder: I get "E: Package 'p7zip-full' has no installation candidate"
[02:39] <YankDownUnder> Guest86716: I'll assume you've got all the proper sources configured on your installation, yes?
[02:40] <Guest86716> yankdownunder: I am not sure. I am following the three commands listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217981/how-to-install-and-run-unetbootin
[02:40] <Guest86716> I am running in a live CD of Ubuntu 15.04
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Guest86716: " APT-Sources: http://mirror.steadfast.net/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages " Make sure the universe repo is enabled .
[02:41] <cfhowlett> 15.04 is completely dead and unsupported Guest86716
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> If you're running a liveCD, you're going to be a bit "hard put" to do things like update apt and whatnot...so it's going to cause issues. You really can't install anything while you're running on a liveCD...that being said, on a liveUSB, you can change the persistence to allow for updating the OS - along with installing programs.
[02:42] <Didact69> ivan, ok ty
[02:43] <djndb> Guest86716: have you tried apt-get updade?
[02:43] <ali> hello
[02:43] <djndb> *update
[02:43] <YankDownUnder> djndb: That's not going to work on a liveCD.
[02:44] <Guest62040> how to install flash player for ubuntu mate
[02:44] <Guest86716> bashing-om: What is that link, and how should I use it??
[02:44] <djndb> YankDownUnder: if course it will
[02:45] <Guest86716> cfhowlett: It is just the live CD I happen to have handy...
[02:45] <Guest86716> djndb: yes, it doesn't seem to help
[02:46] <Didact69> I'll got to the banshee room and see what they say
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Guest86716: As advised, 15.04 of dead . that link is of no value to you at this time .
[02:46] <learner> i wonder why nobody helps me
[02:46] <Guest86716> cfhowlett: Why is 15.04 unsupported when I see on top of this chanel that even 12.04 is considered official still?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> Guest86716, but you do NOT see 15.04 on that list, do you?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> !lts | Guest86716
[02:47] <cfhowlett> 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 are Long Term Support releases.  others are supported for 9 months.
[02:48] <Guest86716> bashing-om: What does it mean that it is dead? Even if no one is maintaining it, shouldn't the software still work?
[02:48] <djndb> learner: paste it
[02:48] <learner> djndb, paste my .desktop file?
[02:48] <djndb> yes
[02:49] <learner> djndb, is there a preferred paste site here?
[02:49] <djndb>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Guest86716: What is on the DVD - insecire as it may be - will work . but there is no software repository to obtain any softwares .
[02:49] <Bashing-om> insecure*
[02:50] <djndb> Bashing-om: there is in the archive
[02:50] <learner> djndb,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24296874/
[02:52] <ppttbb> wechat?
[02:52] <djndb> learner: and your DE is?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> djndb: There is "old-releases" for some porposes . But not for updating an End_Of_Life release ) Release upgrade, YES .
[02:53] <learner> djndb, my DE?
[02:53] <djndb> yes
[02:53] <djndb> desktop environment
[02:53] <learner> djndb, i'm using default unity of Xenial
[02:56] <learner> weird thing is, I installed sublime text and it created a similar .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and it immediately got registered. I'm guessing there's another place that entries are going to?
[02:57] <learner> i checked  all .menu files for sublime but nothing found
[02:57] <learner> so i don't think that's where it gets registered
[03:04] <Didact69> what's a ppa when related to apt-get ?
[03:05] <Bashing-om> !ppa ! Didact69
[03:05] <Bashing-om> !ppa | Didact69
[03:05] <Didact69> ty
[03:16] <quickquestionple> I am having trouble formatting my drive. I have been successful every time in the past but this one is giving me trouble. Other drives are formatting fine. I am using the fdisk utility.
[03:17] <quickquestionple> The drive is sda. I would like to wipe it completely and format it with ntfs. It has two partitions, sda2 and sda5
[03:17] <quickquestionple> running mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda yields --- /dev/sda is apparently already in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[03:18] <quickquestionple> I have tried umount /dev/sda and umount /dev/sda2 but to no avail
[03:18] <cfhowlett> quickquestionple, make an ubuntu USB.  boot USB. format the HDD
[03:18] <quickquestionple> Any suggestions please?
[03:19] <quickquestionple> I am in a bootable ubuntu USB currently
[03:19] <cfhowlett> do you have windows on that HDD?
[03:19] <quickquestionple> No
[03:19] <quickquestionple> It previously contained Linux Mint
[03:20] <quickquestionple> ---  /dev/sda is a 250GB SSD
[03:21] <quickquestionple> I have wrestled with this for a few hours or I would not ask. Even tried to dd it.
[03:22] <Jordan_U> quickquestionple: You should not be passing a full disk like "sda" to mkfs. You should be passing a partition like "sda1".
[03:24] <quickquestionple> sda has 2 partitions. sda2 and sda5. How do I consolidate them into a single partition to format?
[03:24] <Jordan_U> quickquestionple: You can either use parted or fdisk to create the appropriate partition, then mkfs to write a filesystem to that partition or you can use GParted to do both. (I would recommend using GParted).
[03:24] <Jordan_U> quickquestionple: Delete both partitions and make a new one that uses all of the space.
[03:28] <quickquestionple> Inside of gparted when I go to create a new partition table I receive the error, "Partitions on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change,  probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes."
[03:30] <ivan> quickquestionple: df -hT list them as mounted?
[03:31] <quickquestionple> Would I see it listed as /dev/sda under the Filesystem column?
[03:31] <ivan> quickquestionple: if they're mounted but you don't need them you can just umount them
[03:31] <ivan> yes
[03:31] <ivan> well, /dev/sdaN
[03:31] <ivan> for some N
[03:31] <quickquestionple> No, they are not mounted
[03:32] <quickquestionple> I have - udev, tmpfs, /dev/sdd1,/dev/loop0,aufs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs,tmpfs
[03:33] <ivan> quickquestionple: if you just ran dd over the drive, maybe the kernel won't be using them when you reboot
[03:33] <ivan> or maybe something else is going on. hard to say
[03:33] <cfhowlett> quickquestionple, paste it please:    df -hT | pastebinit
[03:33] <quickquestionple> I am in a live USB Ubuntu boot.
[03:33] <quickquestionple> okay. pastebin coming.
[03:34] <quickquestionple> https://pastebin.com/XeShKEgF
[03:43] <quickquestionple> Thoughts?
[03:44] <fxgfx> hello can u help me plz
[03:44] <Guest70505> So, I want to install Ubuntu on an SSD from inside a live CD session, but want to keep my main spinning disc OS intact. Could someone please walk me through it so I don't mess up?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Guest70505, disconnect the HDD?
[03:46] <Guest70505> cfhowlett: How? It is internal to my laptop
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !ask | fxgfx
[03:46] <wastrel> you should be able to manually partition
[03:47] <wastrel> instead of doing the automatic one in the installer
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Guest70505, yep. manually partition.  carefully.
[03:48] <pricey_> dont go overkill with the swap partition if you are running a small size ssd
[03:49] <fxgfx> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:49] <fxgfx> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:49] <fxgfx> can u help me
[03:49] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | fxgfx
[03:49] <PipeItToDevNull> Or the front end is running, and didnt crash
[03:50] <Guest70505> cfhowlett: Okay, the instalation wizard says that /dev/sdb has mounted partitions, but I guess that is okay, since I believe that is the SSD, right? It is asking me whether it should be unmounted. I am guessing no?
[03:50] <fxgfx> do i kill process?
[03:51] <quickquestionple> what can I try next?
[03:52] <Guest70505> cfhowlett: I guess maybe better would be to unmount the main HD before even starting the instalation procedure?
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Guest70505, depeds on your paranoia level.  but if the HDD is not mounted/available to the installer then you *should* be safe.
[03:54] <RonWhoCares> I used Ubuntu 16.10 .  Is there a way to make a desktop shortcut run as root?
[03:55] <Guest70505> I don't think I am paranoid: the wizard even sees that I have Ubuntu and Windows installed and asks if I want to replace them. I guess I can select to "do something else" in the partitioning phase, but I worry I will get it wrong. But moving on...
[03:57] <Guest70505> cfhowlett: so now I see a lot of sda partitions, and just one sdb. The device for bootloader instalation is pre selected to my HD, but I can select the SSD
[03:57] <DArinzim> Opa..alguem pode me ajudar?
[03:59] <Guest70505> cfhowlett: What defines what will be written in the instalation?
[04:00] <Guest70505> Is it just the field "device for bootloader instalation"?
[04:00] <fxgfx> is wine stable in ubuntu?
[04:01] <p0bs> not very
[04:01] <fxgfx> will it rune cain and abel?
[04:01] <fxgfx> run*
[04:03] <fxgfx> yes no?
[04:03] <fxgfx> well i find out soon
[04:04] <djndb> 1.8.7 is stable in ubuntu
[04:07] <fxgfx> wine 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14
[04:07] <fxgfx> may have to update?
[04:08] <screenres> How do I output to 2560x1440 resolution?
[04:10] <Nitin_> help
[04:11] <Nitin_> HELP
[04:11] <djndb> fxgfx: old distro maybe
[04:11] <cnidarianKing> Morning everyone
[04:11] <Nitin_> Morning
[04:12] <fxgfx> dont you guys update the software center?
[04:12] <Nitin_> Needs help
[04:12] <Nitin_> Needs help
[04:12] <djndb> !ask > Nitin_
[04:12] <cfhowlett> fxgfx, what version of ubuntu do you have
[04:13] <cnidarianKing> I used the terminal, but i  made the mistake of upgrading all of my packages. It took half an hour
[04:13] <fxgfx> 16
[04:13] <cfhowlett> !details | fxgfx,
[04:14] <djndb> the second thing i do after the installation is uninstall that abomination and install synaptic
[04:14] <wastrel> i didn't know you could uninstall that
[04:14] <Nitin_> how to see/enable  GUI mode in ubntu 16.10
[04:16] <djndb> cfhowlett: he has 1.6.2
[04:18] <djndb> oh i see ubuntu has packaged gnome 3/24
[04:18] <cfhowlett> djndb, 1.6.2?  you mean ubuntu 16.04.2?
[04:18] <djndb> wine 1.6.2
[04:21] <RonWhoCares> Can I put this command on single quotes to run as 1 command:   gksu python3 manage.py collectstatic && python3 manage.py compress && python3 manage.py runserver 192.168.0.81:80
[04:21] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to make a desktop icon out of this
[04:22] <djndb> RonWhoCares: write a bash script
[04:22] <fxgfx> $ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
[04:22] <fxgfx> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:22] <fxgfx> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:23] <cfhowlett> same same, fxgfx.  told you how to do this already
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[04:34] <RonWhoCares> djndb: Would the file have 2 lines:  #!/bin/bash and then the command line
[04:41] <djndb> RonWhoCares: one line, 3 lines, doesn't matter
[04:46] <RonWhoCares> djndb: It would help if I had the path correct :P
[04:49] <tubal> Hello. Not really a Ubuntu-specific thing, but I wonder if anyone here uses xflux,with or without the gui applet?
[04:49] <adymitruk> does chromium allow casting to chromecast from youtube? It's there on chomeos
[04:54] <OerHeks> adymitruk, maybe .. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-cast/boadgeojelhgndaghljhdicfkmllpafd
[04:59] <deathlord> er irc.xspeeds.eu
[05:11] <OerHeks> !yay
[05:19] <underd0g> yo
[05:20] <LenCole> anyone know how to fix the problem when installing ubuntu and the install works fine but will not boot into the system and all you get is a grub prompt. has happened to me under ubuntu 16.10, ubuntu 16.04 now trying ubuntu-mate 17.04 beta 2 and still the same .. was running arch with no issues on this machine but ubuntu seems to have this issue
[05:21] <underd0g> LenCole: does it come up as an option
[05:21] <LenCole> no all i get is the grub prompt no options at all
[05:21] <LenCole> stating minimal bash-like line editing ...
[05:22] <underd0g> LenCole: what does it say exactly
[05:22] <LenCole> when i boot i get   GNU GRUB version 2.02
[05:23] <fxgfx> it wont work
[05:23] <LenCole> Minimal BASH-line like editing is supported. For the first word.
[05:23] <LenCole> then a prompt  grub> _
[05:23] <underd0g> yeah i think something went wrong with install
[05:23] <underd0g> but try and type startx to boot
[05:23] <fxgfx> my you know a ubunt tool that is like cain and able?
[05:24] <LenCole> I have tried installing 3 different versions of ubuntu and derivatives and always the same thing .. have tried boot-repair and still dosn't fix it..
[05:24] <LenCole> I will try typing startx and see though
[05:25] <underd0g> LenCole: im thinking that the boot partition is overwriting the actual install partition
[05:26] <LenCole> i set it up with a 100 mb efi partition and then another partition mounted /
[05:27] <underd0g> do an fdisk to checkand make sure
[05:28] <fxgfx> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjH5PTqhIXTAhVJVyYKHZ1ZD74QFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F343268%2Fhow-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation&usg=AFQjCNHcOXnqdZt5qhH0wEmbqzNx3-Djgg&bvm=bv.151325232,d.eWE
[05:28] <underd0g> did startx not work
[05:30] <LenCole> i am on that machine booted in with the install media .. going to reboot now and see
[05:35] <Jordan_U> LenCole: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces. I can't look at it at the moment but I will be back tomorrow.
[05:47] <reshelp> How do I set up a 2560x1440 monitor with HDMI connection and Radeon HD 6450 Graphics card?
[05:50] <reshelp> I've tried install the Radeon drivers and configuring xrandr directly
[05:51] <OerHeks> reshelp, not, dvi and DP would .. http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6450
[05:51] <OerHeks> .. even VGA would be able to do 2048x1536
[05:52] <Dreaman> i use free druver but my monitor is full hd not  uhd
[06:04] <craptalk> when i run env command, i got this DISPLAY=:1
[06:05] <craptalk> what does it mean?
[06:05] <craptalk> number of active monitor?
[06:06] <craptalk> does it count on when i add another new monitor conneted to my laptop?
[06:22] <Dro> hello, i'm facing a strange problem these days: after getting back from suspend my computer get slow.. and some strange blank spaces in the (X [] -) part of each window
[06:22] <ducasse> craptalk: it's the number of your x display, nothing to do with monitor(s)
[06:23] <Dro> any ideas?
[06:36] <Delvien> .
[06:36] <Dro> here is an example of how my screen look after getting back of suspend ==> http://i.imgur.com/esjOAnc.png
[06:37] <Dro> any idea how to fix this?
[06:37] <Delvien> Dro: could be a plethora of things. Memory leaks, video card issues, bad memory module or some other hardware problem. Did you check journalctl ? dmesg?
[06:37] <Delvien> Dro: that could be a video card driver issue
[06:39] <Dro> Delvien, what command should I use to extract the issues messages from dmesg?
[06:39] <ducasse> Dro: 'dmesg'
[06:42] <Dro> ducasse, well the problem is that there is too much informations in the output.. :|
[06:43] <ducasse> Dro: you are interested in the bits that appear after resume, so start by narrowing down to those
[06:48] <Dro> ducasse, can't really find anything interesting in there.. any other suggestions?
[06:49] <fun> How to check/use router without incoming cable
[06:49] <ducasse> you can try journalctl, but i would think a driver problem was visible in dmesg
[06:49] <ducasse> fun: try ##networking
[06:55] <alkisg> fun, use wifi?
[06:57] <fun> alkisg: how
[06:58] <fun> What's use cases
[06:58] <fun> Is it possible to connect usb drive
[06:59] <fun> I have phone tablet and arduino and USB drives alkisg
[06:59] <fun> No pc
[06:59] <ducasse> fun: this is really off-topic here, take it to ##networking.
[07:03] <hungryao> 谁能告诉我这玩意怎么用
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !cn | hungryao
[07:03] <hungryao> join #ubuntu-tw
[07:04] <EvilReaper> hello
[07:04] <hungryao> hello
[07:05] <hungryao> 这居然是个聊天室
[07:05] <hungryao> 鬼会用啊
[07:05] <ducasse> hungryao: /join #ubuntu-tw
[07:06] <hungryao> 我发的消息有人看到吗
[07:06] <EvilReaper> hello
[07:06] <hungryao> 对面是外星人吗
[07:07] <cfhowlett> EvilReaper, this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions
[07:07] <hungryao> i see
[07:07] <hungryao> why you guys use ubuntu
[07:08] <cfhowlett> hungryao,  because we want to.  now: what is your support question.
[07:08] <EvilReaper> Yesterday i updated my opencv-3.0.0 to opencv-3.1.0 by source code compile and it totally working fine with c++ but my python still looks for .so file that belongs to opencv-3.0.0. I need help
[07:10] <hungryao> i can't sing in Unity3D
[07:10] <cfhowlett> hungryao, ?  explain.
[07:11] <cfhowlett> sounds like a python issue, EvilReaper.  ask the ##python people
[07:12] <EvilReaper> cfhowlett, Thanks for your quick replay.
[07:12] <hungryao> it always shows that not available,try again later
[07:13] <hungryao> my network works well
[07:14] <hungryao> cfhowlett?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> hungryao, you said "I can't sing in unity 3d"  Makes NO sense.
[07:15] <hungryao> pardon?
 i can't sing in Unity3D
[07:16] <hungryao> just question about ubuntuOS is acceptable?
[07:17] <ducasse> hungryao: yes
[07:17] <hungryao> sorry
[07:20] <hungryao> i am in China,how to use google ,like VPN
[07:20] <cfhowlett> !vpn | hungryao
[07:21] <hungryao> ok thanks
[07:21] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:21] <cfhowlett> !kylin | hungryao
[07:23] <hungryao> i know that,but i prefer original edition
[07:24] <hungryao> anyway thanks for your help
[07:31] <wastrel> 太好了
[07:32] <cfhowlett> english? wastrel
[07:33] <FMan1988> heh
[07:49] <lokk> anyone can help me for laptop selection?
[07:50] <wastrel> i'll take a lenovo t460p
[07:51] <lokk> why wastrel
[07:53] <wastrel> i like lenovos
[07:54] <lokk> can you suggest alternate models
[07:55] <lokk> in pm please wastrel
[07:55] <wastrel> i don't have a lot of laptop knowledge.  i just go with lenovos
[07:55] <ducasse> !pm | lokk
[07:55] <Delvien> t430 master race
[07:56] <baizon> !offtopic
[07:56] <Delvien> too bad it still has intel ME
[08:44] <Dreaman> in final version of 17.04 unity 8 or
[08:44] <Dreaman> no
[08:46] <ducasse> Dreaman: only tech preview, but keep 17.04 questions to #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <Dreaman> ok
[08:51] <KnightPh0ne> morning flyinprogrammer
[08:51] <KnightPh0ne> morning everyone
[08:51] <anddam> I'm trying to figure if I should report the lack of any change for zoom feature as a bug, can anyone double check this with me?
[08:58] <anddam> on a default 16.04 (Unity) I noticed System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > "Universal Access" has "Turn zoom on or off", "Zoom in" and "Zoom out" shortcuts already configured by default. Using the shortcuts has no apparent effects.
[08:58] <anddam> Unity Systems Settings is based on GNOME's Settings application from gnome-control-center package, using this app the Universal Access pane has a Zoom section that isn't present in Unity's System Settings > Universal Access. This "Zoom" switch is actually triggered by the "Turn zoom on or off" shortcut from Unity's System Settings shortcut so the shortcut is actually tied to the feature, but it's not
[08:58] <anddam> producing any effect.
[09:00] <anddam> now I'm not sure if it's a bug since the zoom feature is supposed to work while it isn't, if it's an UI glitch since the Zoom section is missing in Unity's setting panel but the shortcuts were left there by mistake, and I'm not sure if I should be reporting this at all
[09:00] <anddam> it's not a coherent UX for sure
[09:06] <S3mo> hi some one can help me with docker and vsftpd, I intalled vsftpd on a docker and won't work...
[09:09] <lunatik> @find Linnea_Sinclair An Accidental Goddess
[09:18] <anddam> now that was odd
[09:23] <harryg> hello
[09:24] <alkisg> Hi
[09:24] <harryg> where are you from
[09:24] <alkisg> This is a support channel for ubuntu
[09:24] <alkisg> It's not for chat
[09:30] <ikonia> join #lfs
[09:30] <ikonia> oops
[09:35] <DocMAX> hello there... where is the module "virtio_balloon.ko" gone???
[09:36] <aqatl> Hello, I've got a question. During ubuntu installation I've selected home directory encryption. If I'd want to install another distro and keep that home dir, will it work? I mean, will my home dir be mounted and will I be able to use it normally? Or will it require additional configuration? I'm asking, beacuse I want to be sure, that I won't be left with decrypted, unaccessible data.
[09:38] <baizon> aqatl: yes, if you configure it
[09:39] <DocMAX> where are the virtio drivers??????
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> aqatl  mind, your /home dir contains config files, that may not work on the other distro
[09:39] <ikonia> DocMAX: in the kernel
[09:39] <baizon> aqatl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37/when-installing-im-given-the-option-of-encrypting-my-home-folder-what-does-t
[09:41] <DocMAX> ikonia: its not there
[09:41] <DocMAX> there is no virtio_balloon.ko!
[09:42] <aqatl> ok, thanks
[09:44] <aqatl> So I'll just need to configure that ecryptfs on a new system?
[09:44] <baizon> aqatl: yes
[09:45] <aqatl> ok, thank you
[09:46] <konrados> Morning. Since three days I've struggling with Skype on Ubuntu. Installed - OK, creating account - OK, text conversations - OK. The ppl I called are on Windows 7 and another one on Windows 10. Calling "works" i.e. they see the message that I'm calling, they click "answer" and then... nothing. I don't see on my PC that they answered, and the call is aborted. I would be very grateful for any ideas :)
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> konrados  that looks like a question for the skype channel
[09:47] <konrados> There is no such channel?
[09:47] <konrados> sec...
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> there's #skype, but nobody's there
[09:48] <konrados> ^
[09:48] <konrados> So, any ideas? And yes - I've tried googling, is doesn't seem anybody has this kind of issue...
[09:49] <konrados> s/is/it
[09:49] <baizon> konrados: youre using the new skype client?
[09:50] <konrados> Yes, fresh install (three days ago) baizon
[09:50] <baizon> konrados: because the old client is eol and not supported anymore
[09:51] <baizon> konrados: https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> konrados  there's this https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[09:52] <konrados> baizon, - "skype for linux beta" 5.0.0.5 With a dancing penguin
[09:52] <konrados> let me try that links, baizon MonkeyDust
[09:54] <konrados> MonkeyDust, - yes, this is what I downloaded
[10:01] <KenKaniff> hey, can anyone here help me with my problem? https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=138233
[10:02] <bazhang> KenKaniff, vlc issue?
[10:02] <KenKaniff> yeah
[10:03] <bazhang> KenKaniff, care to give us a synopsis here
[10:04] <KenKaniff> i want to record a livestream video on twitch. I can paste the video in the "open networking url" tab unter media, but whenever I press record, nothing happens and no file is created
[10:05] <KenKaniff> when i launch vlc over the commandline, i get the abovementioned error and vlc stops working entirely
[10:05] <bazhang> KenKaniff, have you tried in #videolan ?
[10:06] <KenKaniff> bazhang no, but i will now
[10:06] <KenKaniff> thanks
[10:09] <da7niel> I want a certain python script to execute on startup but I need to run it with admin priviledge, can I just put "sudo /directory/script.py" into /etc/rc.local?? will that work?
[10:10] <ducasse> da7niel: rc.local is run as root, no need for sudo
[10:10] <da7niel> ducasse: thanks!
[10:11] <fyan-rava> hello
[10:11] <fyan-rava> i just came back
[10:12] <fyan-rava> after install mariadb and change password for it i forget my pass to login it
[10:12] <fyan-rava> how i do now ?
[10:13] <Dreaman> zad klaviaturnoto ustroistvo e problema KenKaniff :) http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/423/9084423z.png
[10:13] <ducasse> Dreaman: what's the question?
[10:14] <Dreaman> no question see pic
[10:14] <Dreaman> :)
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> Dreaman  what's in the pic, describe the problem
[10:15] <bazhang> ducasse, its russian help for KenKaniff 's issue
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[10:15] <Dreaman> fuck russia i am BULGARIAN
[10:15] <Dreaman> lames
[10:15] <bazhang> Dreaman, stop that
[10:16] <Dreaman> ok
[10:16] <Dreaman> see the movie
[10:16] <bazhang> Dreaman, providing help here is done in English
[10:16] <Dreaman> help me hahahah
[10:17] <bazhang> Dreaman, then state your ubuntu issue
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Dreaman  ask a question, so we can help
[10:17] <Dreaman> my system work good with ubuntu
[10:17] <Dreaman> thenks
[10:20] <pigninja_> welp
[10:20] <pigninja_> how goes the people
[10:21] <bazhang> pigninja_, ubuntu support issue, or just wish to chat
[10:29] <nBIink> Hello, can I change Ubuntu's default display manager to KDM without messing up the system?
[10:32] <ducasse> nBIink: sddm, you mean? it shouldn't mess things up afaik.
[10:32] <nBIink> Yeah, I just want to change the default manager
[10:33] <nBIink> Before I tried to install KDM on synaptic package manager and it wanted to remove resolvconf and another one
[10:33] <ducasse> nBIink: which ubuntu version are you on?
[10:33] <nBIink> 16.10
[10:34] <ducasse> there is no kdm anymore, kde uses sddm now.
[10:34] <nBIink> ahh okay.. Will it mess up everything if I try to install it on synaptic?
[10:35] <ducasse> as i said, it absolutely should not.
[10:35] <nBIink> And I don't want to install KDE, I already installed Xfce4 as desktop environment
[10:35] <nBIink> It's lightweight and works for me
[10:36] <nBIink> Ok I will install it, how do I change replace the default manager then?
[10:36] <nBIink> I mean replace* I'm a bit confused, :p
[10:36] <ducasse> it should ask you which one you want to use during installation.
[10:36] <nBIink> Ok, thank you
[10:40] <Lu6770> If I am dualbooting Windows 10 and Ubuntu on two SSDs (one per OS), and Windows already has an EFI partition...what do I do with it?
[10:40] <Lu6770> Or do I make a new one on the second drive
[10:41] <alkisg> Lu6770: you can do either one of those
[10:41] <Lu6770> What difference does it make?
[10:42] <Lu6770> I'd rather not mess around with the EFI for Windows if I can help it. I just want to be able to pick my OS in GRUB each time
[10:42] <alkisg> The best is to remove the windows drive, then install ubuntu so that it gets its own efi partition, then insert the windows drive, and tell uefi to boot from the second drive
[10:43] <alkisg> The pros of that is that you can remove either drive and the other will still be working
[10:43] <Lu6770> So...will GRUB just detect it?
[10:43] <alkisg> Yes
[10:43] <Lu6770> Ok snazzy. Thanks a lot! So it is just PnP basically?
[10:44] <alkisg> If you do it the way I said (remove drive etc), then yes, except that in the end when you put the windows drive back, you'll need to run sudo update-grub one more time for ubuntu to see windows
[10:44] <Guest24000> Türk varmı arkadaşlar
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[10:46] <da7niel> so I'm trying to run some files at launch, i've added these lines to rc.local https://pastebin.com/ebuF2v6L -- and neither are getting executed on startup, yet I can run them manually... what's going on?
[10:46] <Lu6770> alkisg thanks a lot :) appreciate the help!
[11:18] <shinigami_> hi new to IRC
[11:18] <shinigami_> Hello... Everyone :)
[11:18] <Tatou> hihi
[11:19] <shinigami_> Hi Tatau..
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> shinigami_  type   /topic
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <kbob> hi BluesKaj
[11:40] <BluesKaj> hi kbob
[11:49] <fyan-rava>  #1698 - Access denied for user 'root '@'localhost
[11:51] <FMan1988> that's too bad
[11:51] <stevendale_> FMan1988: Hey! That's not how this channel works! :(
[11:51] <FMan1988> oh
[11:53] <Li> I'm making bootable centos usb drive from ubuntu box, here is the dd command syntax which I used https://pastebin.com/YruMhQxi ... the issue is: ubuntu cli shows the process as completed but I get a gui notification worning me from unpluging the usb while data is still being copied to it!!! can anyone advise on this type of problem?
[11:54] <alkisg> Li, man dd => check conv=fdatasync
[11:55] <Li> ty alkisg
[11:55] <alkisg> np
[11:57] <qswz> Hey I don't remember with who I discussed about imwheel, it works fine, but when I add it to default startup commands, it's not started up
[11:57] <qswz> I tried putting a sleep delay, but not better
[12:05] <rogier> ping? pong!
[12:07] <FMan1988> you mean the Chinese president? Xi Jinping-pong
[12:08] <qswz> no Ho Lee Sheet
[12:19] <tdn> What does mdadm use the hostname for? I notice it is part of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: "ARRAY /dev/md/0  metadata=1.2 UUID=a719a7a5:93fd065c:171425f3:8950de3d name=syrah:0"     If I change hostname of the server, do I need to change this? Or can I even change it without breaking my mdadm raid array?
[12:19] <ahmad> hey
[12:19] <fyan-rava> hello
[12:19] <stevendale_> Hi
[12:19] <fyan-rava> do you know application for design website and developer in ubuntu
[12:19] <stevendale_> Ask your question or join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion bound by the core ubuntu irc channel guidelines
[12:20] <ahmad> do you have a windows elmatur in ubuntu?
[12:20] <FMan1988> elmatur :)
[12:21] <ahmad> sorry :)
[12:21] <FMan1988> lol
[12:24] <rogier> fyan-rava, bluefish comes to mind.. for HTML/CSS related. And any editor that supports your favorite dynamic language can be used to program logic using that language.. (e.g. database interaction)
[12:25] <rogier> ahmad: not really an emulator... but there is wine, that (to put simply) can be used to run windows programs (not all, but a big amount)
[12:27] <gabboman> wine allows you to run windows programs in linux. Wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
[12:27] <gabboman> but we will call it emulator anyway because reasons
[12:28] <FMan1988> WINE provides syscall level comptibitlya?
[12:28] <FMan1988> -tyupos
[12:28] <wasutton3> is there a quick way i can test if www-data has write access to a specific folder? since www-data doesn't have a shell (nor should it) I'm not sure how to test write a file as that user
[12:29] <nBIink> How do I change the icon to a symlink linked to a sh script?
[12:29] <rolli__> Hi all
[12:29] <rolli__> I trying to install somethig with umake
[12:30] <rolli__> i want to install for all user and not for specific user, how can I do it?
[12:30] <Harry> wasutton3: ls -la <folder>, you can see who owns it, the group and permissions for user/group/everyone
[12:31] <wasutton3> Harry, I've done that. The folder is 777, but the contents are not
[12:31] <wasutton3> those are owned by nobody:nogroup
[12:32] <PCatinean> Can someone please help me with my RT5390 wireless card in ubuntu 16.04.02 LTS?
[12:32] <wasutton3> basically im trying to get an nfs share writable by www-group:www-group
[12:32] <PCatinean> It just keeps getting interrupted every 7-8 minutes or so
[12:32] <wasutton3> www-data sorry
[12:32] <PCatinean> drives me crazy, kills my ssh connections and destroys my life :(
[12:32] <Harry> wasutton3: you could change the permissions/owner of the files?
[12:33] <wasutton3> Harry, tried that as root on the nfs client, and root could not change permissions
[12:34] <rolli__> someone?
[12:34] <Harry> wasutton3: it failed to? or just changed the permissions on the directory, not the files within?
[12:35] <wasutton3> Harry, correct
[12:36] <wasutton3> as a regular user i can read/write to the folder
[12:36] <wasutton3> as root i can read/write to the folder
[12:36] <Dreaman> how to id root aut of sudo
[12:36] <Dreaman> su -i
[12:36] <Dreaman> or
[12:38] <Harry> wasutton3: have you tried chmod -R to change the permissions recursively, when being root on the NFS server itself?
[12:38] <wasutton3> Harry, yes
[12:38] <wasutton3> the server is archlinux, the client is ubuntu
[12:39] <wasutton3> so the ids of the www-data user might not be the same
[12:40] <cslcm> Hi - My "ubuntu" user can sudo without a password, and I want to disable this. There is no "NOPASSWD" entry in visudio. Is there another way this could have been set?
[12:41] <ducasse> cslcm: could be in a file in /etc/sudoers.d
[12:42] <izfaruqi> Hello
[12:42] <cslcm> ducasse: nothing in there
[12:42] <Harry> wasutton3: i see, did you get an error when you said it failed to change the permissions?
[12:45] <wasutton3> Harry, "chown changing ownership not permitted
[12:45] <wasutton3> or rather changing ownership of $folder: operation not permitted
[12:46] <ioria> cslcm, you mean you can run   'apt update'  (for example)  without sudo ?
[12:47] <Harry> wasutton3: could it be that you're affected by the "root_squash" option's behaviour? http://serverfault.com/questions/212178
[12:47] <cslcm> ioria: no, I can run "sudo apt update" and it doesn't prompt for a password
[12:47] <cslcm> but i can see no sign of a NOPASSWD entry
[12:48] <ioria> cslcm,  close the terminal and reopen
[12:48] <wasutton3> Harry, possibly. let me read and find out
[12:48] <Harry> wasutton3: sure :)
[12:48] <kj4> grape
[12:49] <kj4> screen -S mike
[12:49] <kj4> sudo -s
[12:49] <kj4> cripripa
[12:49] <kj4> cd /var/log
[12:49] <kj4> ls
[12:49] <kj4> ls -haltr
[12:50] <wasutton3> Harry, alright, here goes with the no squash option
[12:50] <kj4>                                                   wqls
[12:50] <kj4> cd
[12:50] <kj4> cd /media
[12:50] <ducasse> kj4: stop that
[12:50] <kj4> cd 2tb
[12:50] <ikonia> kj4: stop please
[12:50] <kj4> cd p1
[12:51] <ikonia> kj4: I've muted you so you can no longer talk in the channel -  please pm me when you are done flooding
[12:51] <wasutton3> Harry, yup, remote root can now reassign ownership of the files
[12:52] <Harry> wasutton3: progress!? :)
[12:52] <wasutton3> Harry, maybe. lets see if the www-data user can write to the folder now
[12:52] <weboh> I am having trouble getting administrator privileges with Linux. I don't know how to login as administer, if even necessary, or to access the privileges.
[12:52] <ikonia> weboh: what EXACTLY are you trying to do
[12:53] <weboh> use synaptic, use administrator privilege without refusal
[12:53] <ikonia> without refusal ?
[12:53] <ikonia> weboh: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[12:53] <wasutton3> Harry, awesome! its all working
[12:54] <wasutton3> now i can button up this nfs share and secure it down some more
[12:54] <EvilReaper> weboh, sudo
[12:54] <chebysheff> hello
[12:54] <chebysheff> Hello World
[12:54] <weboh> I don't know the main user login of things to be administrator.
[12:54] <ikonia> weboh: what version of ubuntu are you
[12:54] <ikonia> you running
[12:55] <weboh> Kubuntu, latest version, or close
[12:55] <ikonia> weboh: ok - so synaptic is not the package manager interface for kubuntu
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> weboh  in a terminal, what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[12:56] <ikonia> muon is the package manager
[12:56] <ikonia> (or the interface to it)
[12:56] <Harry> wasutton3: Woo, glad I could help! Might be worth reverting that option again when you're done playing with permissions etc.
[12:56] <ikonia> and when you launch it from the menu it should do privilege eslcalation for you
[12:56] <weboh> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l <-- of this, I have nigh clue
[12:56] <weboh> nigh or naye
[12:57] <ikonia> ok, so 16.04
[12:57] <ikonia> so launch muon from the menu
[12:57] <weboh> but it is a kubuntu
[12:57] <CodingCookie> hey guys, i had an windows8 and now i installed ubuntu. Iam a casual player and playing sometimes csgo and dota. On my windows machine everything was ok, but now i cant play it. Its lagging really hard
[12:57] <wasutton3> Harry, thats exactly what i just tested for. Permissions done, time to revoke root access :P
[12:57] <weboh> installing muon
[12:57] <ikonia> weboh: it should be there by default
[12:58] <weboh> ikonia: it isn't
[12:58] <wasutton3> aaaaand to only allow that host to write to those nfs shares
[12:58] <ikonia> weboh: it seems unlikley you are running kubuntu then
[12:58] <CodingCookie> can anyone help me with this ?
[12:58] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: you might want to install proprietary drivers, then , if any are available for your hardware. this often improves performance.
[12:58] <weboh> ikonia: I am using KDE. ?
[12:59] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: which ubuntu version is this? which video card(s) do you have there?
[12:59] <ikonia> weboh: how did you install your Ubuntu distro
[12:59] <weboh> Kunbuntu package, and oem install
[12:59] <ikonia> weboh: my mistake
[12:59] <ikonia> weboh: ahh muon was replaced with muon discover, so you do need to manually install muon
[13:00] <weboh> ikonia: I am having problems with discover's list. hmmm
[13:00] <ikonia> weboh: just install muon
[13:00] <weboh> Xapian index?
[13:00] <ikonia> what ?
[13:01] <CodingCookie> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/SrfJeHmj <-- my video graphics card and i am using 16.04 Ubuntu
[13:02] <ikonia> sadly in my view running the games on linux is not a good and practical real world experience
[13:02] <ikonia> if you want to play a windows game...use windows
[13:02] <weboh> ikonia: true, I prefer other forms of commercial linux software
[13:02] <ikonia> weboh: what ???
[13:03] <weboh> ikonia: VLC, pdf studio 11, perhaps Maple whatever number
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> weboh  how is that muon related?
[13:05] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: run this from a terminal: /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[13:05] <ikonia> weboh: what does those random lists of software components have to do with any of the discussion in this channel ?
[13:06] <weboh> Linux does have decent commercial software. I wonder how long Mac OS X will last. Discover has non-commercial installs.
[13:06] <ikonia> weboh: no-one said linux doesn't have decent commercial software
[13:06] <ikonia> weboh: macos is in no danger, I'm not sure what you are talking about or the context of this discussion
[13:06] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: this shoul open a new window which lets you swuitch to proprietary graphics drivers
[13:07] <CodingCookie> tomreyn: thank you for your help. i will try this out!
[13:09] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: good luck. come back here if there are any issues with it
[13:10] <weboh> I think Linux is becoming a threat to the Mac OS X, and that Microsoft and Apple will not support it. All that free Mac OS X software going to Linux would be a shame.
[13:11] <ikonia> weboh: that is nothing to do with this channel and could not be a more out of touch view
[13:12] <tomreyn> CodingCookie: read this for more information on your driver options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:13] <weboh> ikonia: is so bad for Linux to have commerical software?
[13:13] <weboh> is it?
[13:14] <tomreyn> still off-topic
[13:15] <wasutton3> Harry, just want to thank you and let you know everything is working as intended.
[13:16] <ikonia> weboh: no-one has sad anything about comerical software on linux, let alone it being bad to have commercial software on linux, I'm not sure why you are seem to continue to imply that people are saying it's a bad thing
[13:17] <Harry> wasutton3: good to hear! :)
[13:18] <stefan_> hello
[13:18] <FMan1988> hi
[13:19] <stefan_> I had 14.04 with faulty desktop environment. When I close all apps and Im left with only desktop my desktop freezes and I cannot open any app nor unity dashboard. I upgraded to 16.04 but the problem still exists. This problem does not occur on freshly new created accounts. So is there a way to reset my environment somehow?
[13:19] <FMan1988> isn't Ubuntu itself commercial software, because it is made by a company? (even though it isn't sold to users for money)
[13:20] <ivan> stefan_: most of your configuration is in ~/.config
[13:20] <ivan> ~/.cache may in some cases also break things
[13:21] <ivan> stefan_: there is also a bit of stuff in ~/.local and other dotfiles in your home directory
[13:21] <stefan_> hmm, but there are so many files
[13:21] <stefan_> can I somehow put them back into original state?
[13:21] <stefan_> I could copy /etc/skel
[13:21] <stefan_> but thts going to give me only .bashrc and some other stuff
[13:22] <ivan> well, the original state is near-empty, so you could just move them all, then bring back what you want
[13:22] <FMan1988> if a conf gives you trouble, try running without it
[13:22] <stefan_> ok, Ill try. One more question, when I install or remove packages I get this N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[13:22] <stefan_> should I get rid of 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist?
[13:22] <ivan> stefan_: you can ignore that or delete that file
[13:22] <ivan> yes
[13:23] <stefan_> I think its there when I upgraded my ubuntu
[13:24] <stefan_> ivan: I have renmaed .cache to .cacheold etc etc
[13:24] <stefan_> should i now relogin? or I need to create .cache dir first?
[13:24] <stefan_> it should be auto created upon login?
[13:25] <ivan> stefan_: that should all get created as needed
[13:25] <stefan_> ok
[13:28] <ppf> !eol
[13:29] <stefan_> ivan: desktop now does not freeze
[13:29] <ivan> cool :-)
[13:29] <stefan_> but when I click left click to select something, nothing happens and right click clicking not happening anything
[13:29] <stefan_> is that normal?
[13:29] <stefan_> right click on new directory
[13:29] <stefan_> not popping up that menu
[13:29] <stefan_> not sure if thats normal for 16.04?
[13:30] <ivan> clicking in the nautilus file manager?
[13:30] <ivan> clicking left or right should do things there
[13:30] <FMan1988> even on 16.04 :P
[13:33] <ubunturocks> hello, i'm trying to create a daemon in my ubuntu server, well, in the internet they say to create a script in /etc/init.d, like /etc/init.d/gogs, then in this script i put a line 'daemon --user="git" /home/git/init_gogs', i don't know why is not executing the script;
[13:33] <stefan_> ivan: sorry lost connection
[13:33] <stefan_> due to reboot, if you said anything repaste please
[13:34] <frib> what is the best way to stop my touchpad from picking up "accidental touches" from my palm while typing without creating excessive delays between typing and using the mouse?
[13:34] <stefan_> and I have found the case when its not working. I now put the icon in desktop and when I close the app, it freezes
[13:34] <stefan_> dont know what to do
[13:34] <FMan1988> keep your palm away from the touch screen
[13:37] <ducasse> frib: 'man syndaemon'
[13:38] <ppf> how do i upgrade wily to xenial?
[13:38] <ppf> running do-release-upgrade complains about the version of apt
[13:38] <ducasse> !eolupgrade
[13:39] <ivan> ubunturocks: if you are on 16.04, the right way to do this is to create a systemd unit, enable it, start it
[13:40] <ubunturocks> ivan: ok
[13:40] <ppf> ducasse: yes, i've seen that. but wily isn't in old-releases
[13:40] <ubunturocks> ivan: you mean a service like apache?
[13:40] <ivan> ubunturocks: well, I assume you are runnings gogs
[13:41] <ivan> https://github.com/gogits/gogs/blob/master/scripts/systemd/gogs.service
[13:41] <ducasse> ppf: i actually thought it was still in the regular repos, but i could be wrong
[13:41] <ubunturocks> ivan: yes, i want to run it like i run apache, i start the system then it starts together, running in background of course
[13:41] <ivan> ubunturocks: enabled systemd units with a WantedBy=multi-user.target will be started when the machine starts
[13:41] <stefan_> ivan: lost connection again
[13:42] <stefan_> anyway, for that new user on the same machine, desktop works with more icons, while at me it doesnt
[13:42] <ppf> ducasse: you are of course correct ...
[13:42] <ubunturocks> ivan: can i choose which user will run the init script?
[13:42] <ivan> ubunturocks:  I would take that .service file, put it in /etc/systemd/system, systemctl daemon-reload, systemctl enable gogs.service, systemctl start gogs.service
[13:42] <stefan_> Im thinking about purging whole /home/stefan/
[13:42] <ivan> ubunturocks: see the User= in that unit I linked
[13:42] <stefan_> I mean whole hidden files (.) is that ok?
[13:42] <ivan> stefan_: I haev no useful information, sorry
[13:42] <ubunturocks> ivan: many thanks!
[13:42] <stefan_> rm -rf ~/.* ?
[13:42] <ivan> stefan_: you might need to keep .ssh/authorized_keys if you ssh in from somewhere
[13:42] <ivan> and id_rsa, id_rsa.pub
[13:42] <ivan> I would not rm -rf
[13:43] <ivan> also, there's a .gconf* that might be screwing things up for you, I don't know
[13:43] <stefan_> .ssh is not an issue
[13:43] <stefan_> hmm, so what is the best way to remopve myself and re-add it as a new user but to preserve my user in sudoers?
[13:44] <ivan> I would just move any dotfile-directories that look like they have some configuration
[13:44] <ducasse> stefan_: just 'mv .config .config.bak'?
[13:44] <alkisg> stefan_: don't run that command
[13:44] <ivan> I think stefan_ already moved that
[13:44] <alkisg> stefan_: .* also means . and ..
[13:44] <alkisg> (which is /home/stefan and /home)
[13:45] <ivan> in bash but not in zsh
[13:45] <ivan> stefan_: one thing I worry about is if some program wrote its configuration back out _after_ you moved stuff
[13:45] <alkisg> He's using zsh?!
[13:45] <ivan> who knows!
[13:45] <massimo> buongiorno a tutti
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> !it
[13:45] <stefan_> ivan: hmm
[13:45] <stefan_> maybe
[13:45] <stefan_> but why doesnt that program do the same for a new user I created?
[13:46] <massimo> chi mi sa dire come si può aggiornare mint da 17.3 a 18.1? grazie
[13:46] <alkisg> stefan_: what is the actual issue you're trying to solve? getting rid of some specific setting?
[13:46] <ivan> stefan_: well I assume new-user configuration is fine when created new
 I had 14.04 with faulty desktop environment. When I close all apps and Im left with only desktop my desktop freezes and I cannot open any app nor unity dashboard. I upgraded to 16.04 but the problem still exists. This problem does not occur on freshly new created accounts. So is there a way to reset my environment somehow?
[13:46] <stefan_> alkisg: new users have working desktop environment, while mine is faulty. When I minimize all the apps, my desktop freezes
[13:47] <alkisg> stefan_: and you moved .config to .config.bak, and logged out and then back in, and it still had issues?
[13:48] <ivan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/558744/minimizing-or-closing-apps-cause-ubuntu-to-freeze
[13:48] <stefan_> alkisg: correct
[13:49] <alkisg> stefan_: does this give any output?    find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)
[13:49] <stefan_> alkisg: yes gives bunch of /home/stefan/tmp/npm-7642/1401540720547-0.3688152141403407/tmp.tgz
[13:50] <alkisg> stefan_: these files are not owned by you. If it's only in tmp, it's ok, but if it's in any other dir, it's ann issue
[13:50] <stefan_> find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)
[13:50] <stefan_> /home/stefan/.aptitude/config
[13:50] <stefan_> only that file is diff from tmp files alkisg
[13:51] <alkisg> Eh ok, that would only affect running aptitude as non-root
[13:51] <alkisg> stefan_: next thing to try would be mv .local .local.bak
[13:51] <alkisg> Maybe some application data file is corrupted...
[13:51] <stefan_> I tried that befoer
[13:51] <stefan_> didnt worked
[13:51] <stefan_> should i try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/558744/minimizing-or-closing-apps-cause-ubuntu-to-freeze ?
[13:51] <alkisg> So you've already moved .config, .cache, and .local?
[13:52] <stefan_> alkisg: yap like ivan suggested
[13:52] <stefan_> didnt helped
[13:52] <alkisg> OK then try moving your account elsewhere for a moment, to make sure this corrects things, i.e.
[13:52] <stefan_> im following this tut
[13:52] <stefan_> if it doesnt work Ill move it elsewhere
[13:53] <stefan_> what do you mean moving acc elsewhere though?
[13:53] <alkisg> sudo service lightdm stop; login; cd /home; sudo mv stefan stefan.bak; sudo mkdir stefan; sudo chown stefan:stefan stefan; sudo service lightdm start
[13:53] <stefan_> moving ~/ to /home/stefanbackup ?
[13:53] <alkisg> Meh I hope he noted that down
[13:53] <ivan> heh
[13:54] <ivan> #ubuntu: configuration management^Wremoval as a service
[13:55] <stefan_> didnt worked this tutorial
[13:55] <stefan_> so what was your suggestion
[13:55] <stefan_> moving account elsewhere?
[13:55] <alkisg> (04:53:13 μμ) alkisg: sudo service lightdm stop; login; cd /home; sudo mv stefan stefan.bak; sudo mkdir stefan; sudo chown stefan:stefan stefan; sudo service lightdm start
[13:55] <stefan_> alkisg: what do you mean with login?
[13:55] <alkisg> When you stop lightdm, you'll get a terminal prompt
[13:55] <alkisg> login: stefan <enter>
[13:56] <alkisg> password: xxx <enter>
[13:56] <alkisg> etc
[13:56] <alkisg> You might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login
[14:04] <stefan_> hey, I never got terminal login when I stopped lightdm
[14:04] <alkisg> (04:56:27 μμ) alkisg: You might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login
[14:04] <stefan_> Ive got instead /dev/sda7Clearing orphaned node
[14:04] <stefan_> and bunch of those messages
[14:04] <stefan_> ok, so these messages are fine?
[14:04] <alkisg> Did you read it ^ now? :)
[14:05] <alkisg> No, they're not fine
[14:05] <stefan_> :(
[14:05] <alkisg> They are printed on boot
[14:05] <stefan_> I get those while im botting
[14:05] <stefan_> yes
[14:05] <alkisg> They mean that you had disk issues which were resolved
[14:05] <stefan_> but I get these each timne I booot
[14:05] <stefan_> why each time hdd had issues?
[14:05] <alkisg> You see the "clearing orphaned node" message on each boot?
[14:06] <alkisg> The "check /dev/sda7" message is fine
[14:06] <alkisg> The orphaned, no
[14:06] <stefan_> btw lightdm stop; login; sudo mv /home/stefan /home/stefan.bak sudo mkdir /home/stefan chown -R stefan:stefan /home/stefan
[14:06] <stefan_> and thats it?
[14:06] <alkisg> (05:04:26 μμ) alkisg: (04:56:27 μμ) alkisg: You might need to press alt+ctrl+f1 then to login
[14:06] <stefan_> where is .bashrc and stuff from /etc/skel ?
[14:06] <alkisg> You can copy all the files from the old dir then
[14:07] <alkisg> If you want to copy them before login, it's cd /home/stefan; rsync -a /etc/skel/ .
[14:07] <stefan_> but users who are freshly added have working desktop environment
[14:07] <stefan_> alkisg: I can skip /etc/skel
[14:07] <stefan_> and my ubuntu login will; work fine?
[14:08] <alkisg> It will essentially be a new user, and since you're saying that new users log in fine, then yes
[14:08] <alkisg> And you'll copy the old stuff from the /home/stefan.bak dir afterwards
[14:10] <ubunturocks> ivan: hey, i did setup the service, as default, it should run when system starts? well, i did start the service manually using 'sudo service gogs start' but not after system boot
[14:11] <kwant> Hello, if I install the current 17.04 beta and keep updating will I end up with the final release once it's out?
[14:13] <alkisg> kwant: yes, but you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1 for 17.04 issues
[14:14] <ducasse> kwant: until release, that is
[14:15] <stefan_> ok thanks
[14:15] <stefan_> now my desktop works
[14:15] <stefan_> I do have stefan.bak if I ever need something from it
[14:15] <alkisg> stefan_: you can move the old documents with nautilus
[14:15] <alkisg> OK
[14:16] <kwant> alkisg: thanks
[14:16] <alkisg> np
[14:17] <stefan_> alkisg: yeah done thanks :_
[14:17] <stefan_> and thanks to ivan to
[14:17] <stefan_> too
[14:17] <lrojas> is it "safe" to upgrade to 17.04 from 16.10 now, or shoudl i wait for the release on april ?
[14:17] <stefan_> 17.04? I just upgraded to 16.04 :D
[14:18] <lrojas> nothing wrong with 16.04, but i kind of like the new shiny coming in 17.04
[14:18] <stefan_> alkisg: should I move stuff from /etc/skel now?
[14:19] <technochips> need help
[14:19] <technochips> when i record audio with my microphone
[14:20] <technochips> it shows up a very loud static noise
[14:20] <technochips> i know it's not hardward problems, i have ubuntu and windows installed on my computer, and it's working on windows
[14:21] <technochips> i looked up on google, i couldn't fix this
[14:21] <technochips> on alsamixer, mic boost is at zero, capture is *kinda low*
[14:22] <technochips> then when i record again, it just shows a static noise that isn't that low
[14:22] <minimec> technochips: Not that I am probably a big help, but is this a USB microphone or connected via soundcard? What are the 'input' settings in 'settings'>'audio'?
[14:22] <technochips> it's a laptop microphone
[14:23] <ivan> ubunturocks: did you run systemctl enable?
[14:23] <technochips> "Internal Microphone - Built-In Audio"
[14:23] <ivan> ubunturocks: if you did, maybe something is failing at boot, check journalctl
[14:25] <minimec> technochips: Ok. You could try 'lspci | grep Audio' to get the audio hardware of your computerm and then search the net for <YourHardware> in combination with 'ubuntu'. That's what I would do.
[14:25] <ubunturocks> ivan: i will check it out
[14:25] <ubunturocks> ivan: but the service starts with not errors starting it manually
[14:31] <technochips> also the computer has been bought preinstalled with windows 8
[14:38] <implite> Anyone here use a raspberrypi with mate?
[14:39] <implite> just wondering
[14:40] <samir> hi all
[14:40] <implite> hi
[14:40] <samir> need some help for Ubuntu Mate
[14:41] <implite> Im not sure if there is another channel for that?
[14:41] <samir> oh
[14:41] <implite> I was just asking if someone was using a raspberrypi with mate
[14:41] <implite> lol
[14:42] <alkisg> implite: there's an #ubuntu-mate channel
[14:42] <implite> haha I was right
[14:42] <implite> cool
[14:42] <alkisg> implite: I'm using rpi with mate. I don't like rpi at all though :)
[14:42] <implite> I am really starting to love the rpi
[14:43] <alkisg> It's 50 times slower than a desktop pc...
[14:43] <implite> but i love to mess with coding and hardware stuff
[14:43] <alkisg> So I hate the fact that people buy it for desktops and then complain why it's slow...
[14:43] <implite> also i was a mac guy for awile
[14:44] <implite> and i can find some old mac code that i can hackish make work
[14:44] <implite> its soooo cool
[14:48] <implite> I wonder how much faster the raspiberrypi would work without a gui or startx
[14:49] <k1l_> implite: there is a reason servers dont run desktops :)
[14:50] <implite> in the old Dos days old slow computer worked great using all the resources on one program
[14:51] <UnityKris> Does anyone else have trouble getting display when booting on a dual monitor setup? Like, it doesn't display anything unless I power off and unplug both monitors from their hdmi ports, then plug in only one, then boot, then plug in the other.
[14:52] <implite> are you using sli or crossfire or something?
[14:53] <implite> I dont have this problem but im also using a laptop with 2 monitors
[14:53] <implite> atm
[14:55] <UnityKris> Neither that I'm aware of. Both monitors are technically TV's though. one 39" the other 21". The larger is my default, and plugged in with DisplayPort to HDMI.
[14:56] <UnityKris> Maybe if I swap the cable, use hdmi to hdmi on my main, and displayport to hdmi on secondary?
[14:56] <UnityKris> That shouldn't matter though would it?
[15:03] <UnityKris> So, apparently, there is a default boot order for displays on most graphics cards. It goes DVI -> HDMI -> DisplayPort. Can't be changed in OS, maybe it can be changed in bios. Back in a few
[15:07] <vic123> Hi, hope fully someone can help.  I accidentally cleared the EFI entry for my install (the defaults/restart was right next to save/exit) and boot-repair did not fix it.  I'm using 16.04, and I was set up as sda1 fat32 /boot/efi, sda2 linuxswap, and system installed on sda3 btrfs.
[15:08] <vic123> Is there a way to add a new EFI entry?
[15:08] <yangm97> anybody tried zfs on root with a Mac? tried cloning my EFI partition and relevant datasets from my successful ubuntu on zfs install from another computer but all I got on Mac was a grub rescue screen
[15:09] <skinux> How can I move SceneBuilder menu item from "Other" into "Programming" in MATE?
[15:10] <technochips> skinux: go to the directory /usr/share/applications
[15:10] <technochips> and try to find "SceneBuilder"
[15:11] <technochips> then edit it with notepad
[15:11] <technochips> find the piece of text "Categories"
[15:12] <technochips> then at the end of that line, add Programming;
[15:12] <technochips> not sure if it's will work
[15:15] <arana-> so
[15:15] <arana-> where?
[15:15] <technochips> huh
[15:16] <arana-> what's the room?
[15:16] <arana-> oh where am i now
[15:16] <k1l_> arana-: this is the ubuntu technical support channel
[15:17] <arana-> are you machine
[15:17] <arana-> or people?
[15:17] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[15:17] <technochips> pretty sure this is two thousand living people
[15:17] <arana-> so interesting
[15:18] <dougstew5> arana-: are you  a person or a machine?
[15:19] <cslcm> I like that you are you a person or a machine. What shall we talk about now?
[15:19] <arana-> what is the #ubuntu used to do?
[15:19] <technochips> #ubuntu is the official ubuntu support channel
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> !support | arana-
[15:19] <arana-> maybe i want to say that i am a machine!
[15:20] <k1l_> arana-: if you dont have a technical issue please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[15:20] <vic123> alright... I guess no one's encountered my problem before?  Just checking before I go reinstall.
[15:20] <notenoughmana> hi, 'apt-get upgrade' finished with 'W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915         W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915'. How to fix that?
[15:21] <rethus> have a failed ubuntu upgrade.
[15:21] <arana-> the last question ok?
[15:22] <technochips> when will the version 17.04 release?
[15:22] <k1l_> notenoughmana: that is not an issue. its a warning. and it means that intel did already include the part to the driver but didnt send out the firmware so far
[15:22] <arana-> why the time is 08:21?
[15:22] <rethus> can login on cli, but if i try to do aptitude upgrade --full-resolver it takes hours to find dependencies
[15:22] <k1l_> technochips: 13.04. iirc
[15:22] <rethus> what can i do to do the upgrade again
[15:22] <technochips> k thanks
[15:22] <notenoughmana> k1l_: so will everything work fine?
[15:22] <k1l_> notenoughmana: yes
[15:22] <BluesKaj> !uefi | vic123
[15:22] <notenoughmana> thanks!
[15:22] <k1l_> rethus: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[15:24] <vic123> Yes, I've already installed with EFI, but I accidentally cleared the EFI entry in BIOS.  Is there a way to re-add a new entry easily or am I to reinstall Ubuntu?
[15:25] <compdoc> vic123, what entry are you talking about?
[15:25] <compdoc> you turn uefi stuff on or off. turn it back on
[15:25] <Dreaman> technochips  upgreat todey   is stable
[15:26] <Dreaman> kernel stable unity stable gnome stable
[15:26] <vic123> Ok, so when I installed Ubuntu, it created an entry in my EFI table to boot Linux.  For some reason they put the "reset default settings" right next to "save and exit" in my BIOS and I accidentally reset.  It removed the EFI entry that was made when I installed.
[15:26] <Dreaman> final
[15:27] <technochips> need help, my laptop microphone records only loud static noises, tried to fix it with google, but i couldn't, also i know this isn't hardward issues, on windows it works well
[15:27] <compdoc> vic123, sounds like you need to enable the uefi settings in the bios. not sure what table youre talking about
[15:28] <k1l_> technochips: dreaman told lies. its not stable yet. its final release is on 13th april as is said: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
[15:28] <technochips> i know
[15:28] <technochips> i saw your message
[15:29] <vic123> EFI is turned on in the bios, otherwise I would not be able to EFI boot to the USB install stick I have.  Resetting to defaults somehow removed the entry that the Ubuntu installer added to the EFI boot menu.
[15:30] <vic123> I tried running the Ubuntu boot-repair but it did not fix the problem, and it does not see the sda1 partition I have (/boot/efi).
[15:32] <vic123> Someone told me of the possibility of chroot-ing into the install and re-running grub, but I've never done anything like that before.
[15:35] <ivan> vic123: grub has an option that makes keeping the boot entry unnecessary by writing a /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI to the efi partition
[15:35] <ivan> the --force-extra-removable in  grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --force-extra-removable --bootloader-id=Linux --recheck
[15:36] <ivan> but yeah you'll have to chroot in to fix it
[15:38] <ivan> basically UEFI motherboards look for a bootloader at the "fallback boot location" designed for removable media, but it's a good idea for normal installs too
[15:38] <ivan> but I assume neither the grub people or the ubuntu installer made it the default :(
[15:39] <Sbur> I need help setting up my printer.  A printer that worked in the past, that I just deleter, but that, when I try to add it back, requires a URL before anything else.  I have Ubuntu 16.10
[15:39] <ivan> Windows writes one there on install so it doesn't rely on the motherboard keeping the NVRAM Boot* variables
[15:40] <Dreaman> ivan farst install is win or
[15:40] <vic123> ok.  just going to reinstall... unfortunately that stuff is above my head.
[15:40] <ivan> vic123: learning how to chroot in is a good idea
[15:41] <prussian> not like it's hard either
[15:41] <vic123> I don't have time today, but I'll look into it.
[15:47] <KenKaniff> hey, can anyone here tell me what contents I would need to put in the header and body of a POST if I want to send a soap request as depicted in the following example? https://kasapi.kasserver.com/dokumentation/?open=quellcode
[15:48] <weboh> access denied. I wanted to move something into trash
[15:49] <prussian> like.... curl arguments KenKaniff ?
[15:49] <prussian> is that what you're asking?
[15:49] <weboh> How do I delete the folder
[15:49] <weboh> ?
[15:49] <prussian> rmdir if empty
[15:49] <Sbur> What does this mean .... "Stopped - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoqpdl" not available: No such file or directory"
[15:49] <prussian> rm -r if now...
[15:50] <prussian> not
[15:50] <k1l_> weboh: there is no trash on terminal. if you delete it, its fone
[15:50] <k1l_> *gone
[15:50] <prussian> Sbur: do you have gutenprint drivers installed?
[15:51] <Sbur> prussian: I haven't a clue.  I have Ubuntu 16.10
[15:51] <Sbur> prussian: And the printer worked before, so I'm lost
[15:51] <prussian> i don't know the specific package name but you could try apt search 'printer name' or apt search 'gutenprint' and see what you get
[15:52] <prussian> if it's nonfree I don't know what to tell you other than check the manufacturer site or use some generic postfix driver
[15:52] <prussian> i mean postscript
[15:52] <weboh> fone?
[15:52] <prussian> Sbur: what's the make and model of your printer?
[15:53] <k1l_> weboh: its gone
[15:53] <wastrel> you can look on the linx printer database
[15:53] <wastrel> http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[15:53] <weboh> k1: it has residue
[15:53] <weboh> a residue
[15:54] <k1l_> weboh: where is the folder you want to delete?
[15:54] <Sbur> prussian: I have two.  Neither work.  Samsung ML-1600 series, Brother MFC-6490CW
[15:54] <ioria> Sbur    that file   '/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoqpdl' is provided by the 'printer-driver-splix' package, that is a recommended dep of ubuntu-desktop
[15:55] <weboh> cannot trash directory debian
[15:55] <dioo> hello
[15:56] <k1l_> weboh: is that a debian or a ubuntu?
[15:56] <weboh> Kubuntu
[15:56] <weboh> perhaps ubuntu
[15:56] <k1l_> weboh: and what path is the folder?
[15:56] <weboh> >Home>Downloads>crap
[15:57] <weboh> I can't delete crap :(
[15:57] <wastrel> is it empty
[15:57] <weboh> I can't delete the extraction.ugh
[15:57] <weboh> no
[15:57] <k1l_> weboh: that should be removable with user permissions, since its your users home folder.
[15:57] <k1l_> weboh: or you ran it with sudo permissions, which is bad
[15:57] <weboh> do we need privacy
[15:57] <weboh> yes sudo permission
[15:57] <weboh> s
[15:58] <k1l_> dont do that in your users homefolder. you dont need to run everything with sudo.
[15:58] <dioo> hello
[15:58] <weboh> to late
[15:59] <weboh> intoo late
[15:59] <Sbur> prussian: Next problem ... Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!
[15:59] <k1l_> weboh: what is the exact folder name and path?
[16:00] <weboh> >Home>Downloads>crap crap is the folder
[16:00] <weboh> crap is not its original name,
[16:01] <weboh> maxima protection?
[16:01] <leaftype> installed ubuntu-mate on old laptop where wireless doesn't work. Askubuntu says I can type http://paste.ubuntu.com/24300288/ , is this safe?
[16:01] <k1l_> the run "sudo rm -rf /home/USERNAME/Downloads/crap"     make sure to set your actual username as USERNAME and that the rest is case sensitive
[16:01] <Sbur> WHat must I do for this  ... "Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!"
[16:02] <weboh> acess denied
[16:02] <ivan> leaftype: looks safe, no idea if it will fix your problem
[16:03] <weboh> acess denied to /home/deeno/.local/share/Trash/files/crap (2)
[16:04] <k1l_> weboh: so you got that file in the trash already?
[16:05] <weboh> doesn't help
[16:05] <weboh> acess denied to /home/deeno/.local/share/Trash/files/crap <-- the latest
[16:05] <k1l_> what doesnt help?`i dont know what you do, what files you have where etc.
[16:06] <k1l_> so you have a file in the trash that you want to remove? until now you talked about the downloads folder
[16:06] <UchiHAmadarA> try su
[16:07] <mark76> I hate Firefox's new default behaviour of turning tabs into windows at the slightest excuse
[16:07] <k1l_> mark76: tell firefox then
[16:07] <weboh> It refuse to remove it to the trash folder now. I empty something from the trash
[16:08] <mark76> They don't have an irc channel
[16:08] <k1l_> weboh: sorry i cant help you. i still dont know what you do there and your statements dont make sense to me.
[16:08] <acheron-b> Firefox has been great lately and very responsive to issues
[16:08] <k1l_> mark76: they have a own irc server and a bug tracker
[16:09] <warrshrike_> hey
[16:09] <warrshrike_> how can i run this in background on ubuntu server and log progress to file?
[16:09] <warrshrike_>  rsync -azvv -e "ssh -i /export/home/17100148/iioi.pem" ubuntu@ec2-54-209-118-32.compute-1.amazonaws.com:/datadrive/EOEMarket /state/partition1/APPSEC
[16:09] <stevenm> In the fstab... if you've got /dev/sdb1 mounted to /x  ... can some how say (on another line) to bind mount /x/y to /z - only *if* /x was mounted originally?
[16:09] <weboh> trash: cannot trash directory `crap'
[16:10] <abcdefy> stdout redirection
[16:10] <leaftype> huh... nvm, that answer didn't work anyways. So... I have a really old dell inspiron 1501, and the wireless doesn't work. What can I do
[16:10] <EriC^^> stevenm: you can write a script for that if you want
[16:10] <stevenm> I do not want
[16:11] <UchiHAmadarA> anybody who can help me? Whenever i open single application i get windows but while switching using SUPER+TAB they are merged together and then we need to expand it manually can anyone provide with a solution that when i SUPER+TAB i directly get the expanded window? I have UBUNTU 16.04
[16:11] <dioo> hello my friends
[16:11] <KenKaniff> prussian sorry for the late response, hope you still remember my question
[16:12] <KenKaniff> I'm planning to execute the sending of the post using python requests, if that's what you're asking
[16:12] <KenKaniff> i'm only asking for the contents of the post
[16:13] <abcdefy> Ushi use workspaces
[16:13] <bumblefuzz> hi, I'm trying to run this .jnlp file: http://www.uworld.com/clients/UWorldUSMLE.jnlp but the vendor says it's only for use with Windows and/or Mac... but it's Java...
[16:14] <bumblefuzz> anyway, I can't figure out how to make it run in Ubuntu
[16:14] <bumblefuzz> I asked in #Java and they said they don't offer tech support
[16:14] <bumblefuzz> so, I have nowhere else to go
[16:14] <bumblefuzz> :(
[16:15] <morantron> hi! do you know why ubuntu now ships with mawk as default instead of gawk?
[16:16] <bumblefuzz> help?
[16:16] <weboh> what is unix/posix for listing directory with permissions?
[16:17] <bumblefuzz> weboh: 'ls -l'
[16:17] <k1l_> weboh: ls -al
[16:21] <weboh> Failed to trash debian in ~/.local/share/Trash, because :[Errno 13] Permission denied: 'debian/control'
[16:21] <bumblefuzz> does anyone here know some Java trickery?
[16:21] <weboh> I think I know what I can do
[16:22] <warrshrike_> Hey
[16:22] <warrshrike_> why has ubuntu interface been stagnant for 6+ years?
[16:22] <weboh> posix for change user
[16:22] <k1l_> weboh: chown
[16:24] <prussian> bumblefuzz: IcedTea plugin is what you want
[16:24] <weboh> operation not permitted
[16:24] <bumblefuzz> prussian: thankyou... I got that far
[16:24] <bumblefuzz> the file starts but then stops
[16:25] <bumblefuzz> there has to be some kind of OS check
[16:25] <bumblefuzz> or something
[16:25] <prussian> i guess.
[16:26] <prussian> java web start is cancer so I don't really know what to tell you
[16:26] <johnnyCache> Is there someone here who can help me on ssh, I am trying to ssh from my mac to a rasp pi3 using ubuntuMate, went out to the ubuntuMate channel but there was no activity there
[16:26] <qswz> how do you guys add emojis to ubuntu?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Unicode_blocks I used to be able to see most of them on windoze
[16:27] <wastrel> you have to have openssh-server installed
[16:27] <johnnyCache> yes, that is installed
[16:27] <johnnyCache> I can ping the address of the pi3, so I know it’s online
[16:27] <tehLordVortex> what exactly seems to be the problem, johnnyCache?
[16:27] <prussian> KenKaniff: i really don't know. best guess is to find a SOAP client for python and then send the appropriate json/xml blobls as the documentation shows
[16:28] <johnnyCache> when I try to ssh into the pi3, all fhat happens is I get a timeout
[16:28] <BluesKaj> johnnyCache, show us the command you're using to ssh into the rpi
[16:28] <johnnyCache> I also can locally sign into the openssh-server but can’t do it from my mac
[16:29] <johnnyCache> Here
[16:29] <technochips> qswz: you can try to install this font: https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font
[16:29] <johnnyCache> Here’s the command   ssh rmate1@192.168.1.102
[16:30] <wastrel> is there a firewall on the raspi
[16:30] <wastrel> can you ping the raspi
[16:30] <johnnyCache> yes, I can ping the rasp3
[16:30] <BluesKaj> is mate1 the username you chose for the rpi?
[16:30] <johnnyCache> yes, that is the name I chose
[16:30] <bumblefuzz> prussian: I agree but that's what the vendor uses... I have no choice
[16:31] <johnnyCache> I ran out of ideas to try so that’s why I am here
[16:32] <qswz> thanks technochips
[16:32] <qswz> I tried this too http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/enable-color-emoji-linux-google-chrome-noto#comment-2970048703
[16:32] <technochips> np
[16:32] <wastrel> johnnyCache: netstat -an  | grep LISTEN | grep 22
[16:32] <bumblefuzz> johnnyCache: if your Rpi is brand fresh, ssh user@1.2.3.4
[16:32] <wastrel> see if it's listening just on localhost
[16:32] <bumblefuzz> assuming there is a firewall rule allowing port 22
[16:32] <johnnyCache> what do mean brand fresh ?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> johnnyCache, you might get a quicker answer in #raspberrypi chat
[16:33] <bumblefuzz> a newly install
[16:33] <bumblefuzz> no changes/modifications made to system settings
[16:33] <johnnyCache> no, its not a new install
[16:33] <zergut> Hello, how to use Chrome on 14.04.5?
[16:33] <bumblefuzz> first you need openssh installed
[16:33] <johnnyCache> Yes, openssh is installed
[16:34] <prussian> zergut: dpkg -i ~/path/to/chrome.deb
[16:34] <k1l_> zergut: load it from their webpage and isntall it. doesnt work with 32bit os
[16:34] <bumblefuzz> then you need either your firewall deactivated
[16:34] <wafflejock> zergut, if you need something for 32 bit can still get chromium
[16:34] <weboh> posix for finding processes in use, so as to kill <process>
[16:34] <bumblefuzz> OR a rule added to your firewall to allow incoming traffic on the port that openssh is listening
[16:34] <johnnyCache> but your idea about the firewall is a good one, I’m going to check that out, thanks for the reminder, I forgot all about that
[16:34] <prussian> weboh: pkill -TERM process-name
[16:34] <bumblefuzz> default port is 22
[16:35] <bumblefuzz> people usually change the port though for security
[16:35] <prussian> or pgrep processname then kill it with kill -TERM pid
[16:35] <prussian> oOR
[16:35] <prussian> kill -term $(pgrep processname)
[16:35] <weboh> I don't know the name of the process. I need to list processees
[16:35] <prussian> ps -aux
[16:35] <ivan> zergut: get the .deb from google and apt-get install ./google-chrome-whatever
[16:36] <prussian> johnnyCache: is it connected to the network?
[16:36] <prussian> ip addr show
[16:36] <johnnyCache> I am in the process of checking the firewall, bear with me
[16:36] <tehLordVortex> is there a chrome version for arm?
[16:36] <prussian> you can also netscan for it with nmap and find it nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24
[16:36] <ivan> tehLordVortex: google doesn't ship linux chrome for arm
[16:36] <ivan> tehLordVortex: there's probably a chromium
[16:36] <prussian> jessielite comes with sshd installed last I saw
[16:36] <bumblefuzz> johnnyCache: 'sudo ufw status verbose'
[16:36] <prussian> or raspian or whatever they call it now
[16:36] <k1l_> tehLordVortex: i dont think so
[16:37] <zergut> okay, i will rephrase question how to update Chrome to last version
[16:37] <zergut> it says you have old version about a year? already
[16:37] <prussian> chrome binary has an update service
[16:37] <k1l_> zergut: it does automatically
[16:37] <prussian> you don't have to do anything
[16:37] <k1l_> zergut: do you have a 32bit os?
[16:37] <zergut> how to check?
[16:37] <Xzu> Hi. After a long time, I login today to my 16.04 and check up upgrade. I'm suprised to see "linuximage 4.4.0.971". I'm running 4.7.0
[16:37] <k1l_> zergut: "uname -a"
[16:37] <ivan> zergut: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade  should work unless you lost the chrome apt source
[16:38] <zergut> i686
[16:38] <prussian> uname -m actually
[16:38] <ivan> zergut: heh yeah google doesn't do 32-bit chromes any more
[16:38] <k1l_> zergut: that is 32bit. and chrome shut down 32bit support a while ago
[16:38] <prussian> lol i686
[16:38] <wastrel> uname -i
[16:38] <prussian> ya so you have a 32bit build
[16:38] <zergut> it says my system dont supports anymore
[16:38] <prussian> reinstall x86_64 ubuntu
[16:38] <k1l_> zergut: so stop using chrome. use chromium or another webbrowser
[16:39] <prussian> don't run i686
[16:39] <zergut> why do they did that?
[16:39] <prussian> or what k1l_ said
[16:39] <k1l_> zergut: ask them
[16:39] <weboh> muon or synaptic then for packages?
[16:39] <prussian> if you REALLY want to be inane, you can try qemu-user-static and set the appropriate binfmt's for IA64 ELFs
[16:39] <prussian> but seriously, just install an IA64 system
[16:40] <johnnyCache> did that ip addr show and can see that the pi3 is online
[16:40] <prussian> at the appropriate IP you expect?
[16:40] <zergut> prussian: what is wrong with i686?
[16:40] <johnnyCache> and like I said I can ping it with no dropouts
[16:40] <prussian> and you still can't ssh into it?
[16:40] <k1l_> zergut: dont run 32bit os if you have a 64bit cpu
[16:40] <johnnyCache> ya, it just hangs and will timeout
[16:40] <zergut> k1l_: i cant do anything, right?
[16:40] <prussian> zergut: nothing, but google doesn't build nonfree chrome builds targeting i686 anymore, they only target 64bit i686 processors now
[16:41] <k1l_> zergut: no. use 64bit os or dont use chrome
[16:41] <prussian> johnnyCache: so you either have a) an entrophy problem or b) wrong password
[16:41] <zergut> damn
[16:41] <bumblefuzz> johnnyCache: do you have access to the RPi?
[16:41] <prussian> are you trying to log in as root?
[16:41] <prussian> you can do ssh -v and see wtf it's trying to do
[16:41] <zergut> what is bad on using 32-bit system on 64-bit hardware?
[16:41] <johnnyCache> yes, I have access to the pi3
[16:42] <prussian> NOTHING zergut BUT GOOGLE DOES NOT BUILD 32bit i686 debs for chrome apparently
[16:42] <johnnyCache> ok, let me do a verbose ssh login to spill some more info
[16:42] <k1l_> zergut: the idea to use 32bit os on 64bit ahrdware comes from windows not providing 64bot OS long time.
[16:42] <dstolfa> prussian: there is no 64-bit i686, there's only amd64/x86-64, i686 is P6 from Intel, which is only 32-bit
[16:42] <prussian> jesus
[16:42] <prussian> please. all modern core Intels are i686 iterations
[16:42] <k1l_> zergut: there is no reason to use 32bit os on 64bit cpu.
[16:42] <dstolfa> prussian: They're entirely different microarchitectures, what the hell are you talking about dude
[16:43] <prussian> no they aren't
[16:43] <zergut> im on Celeron N2810
[16:43] <johnnyCache> ok, it says its trying to connect on port 22 which is correct, right ?
[16:43]  * dstolfa shrugs
[16:43] <prussian> netburst was completely different
[16:43] <dstolfa> prussian: Have it your way then lol
[16:43] <pennTeller> Hi guys, has anybody updated their ubuntu to the latest Kernel version and tried HArdware Passthrough for graphics cards?
[16:43] <k1l_> zergut: that is a 64bit cpu
[16:43] <johnnyCache> but it just sits there, no other activity
[16:44] <zergut> im using ubuntu about 5 years already
[16:44] <dstolfa> zergut: Nothing particularly bad other than the fact that you can't access more memory. If there's no official 32-bit support, you're going to have to move away from it though
[16:44] <prussian> or stop using nonfree software
[16:44] <zergut> i have 2 GB RAM
[16:44] <k1l_> zergut: ubuntu had 64bit support 5 years ago too
[16:44] <prussian> that helps too
[16:44] <k1l_> zergut: ram is not related.
[16:44] <johnnyCache> OpenSSH_6.9p1, LibreSSL 2.1.8
[16:44] <johnnyCache> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[16:44] <zergut> cache?
[16:44] <dstolfa> k1l_: Yes... yes it is lol
[16:44] <johnnyCache> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 21: Applying options for *
[16:44] <johnnyCache> debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.102 [192.168.1.102] port 22.
[16:44] <johnnyCache> debug1: connect to address 192.168.1.102 port 22: Operation timed out
[16:44] <johnnyCache> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.102 port 22: Operation timed out
[16:44] <wafflejock> johnnyCache, use a paste site
[16:44] <dstolfa> The whole point of having 64-bit is so you can access more RAM
[16:45] <k1l_> zergut: 32bit OS could only use 4gb ram max, back then. but its false to say, that 32bit os is to be used with less than 4gb ram.
[16:45] <dstolfa> zergut: You don't need 64 bit with 2GB of RAM, it's only additional overhead
[16:45] <zergut> as i said i have 2 gigs of ram and im not planning to upgrade in future
[16:45] <dstolfa> zergut: You could try with chromium or firefox
[16:45] <k1l_> dstolfa: i know. but the <4gb ram needs to use 32bit os is just a bad myth
[16:45] <prussian> zergut: then don't use nonfree software built only for an architecture that you don't want to use
[16:45] <zergut> so it's okay to use 32 bit in my situation?
[16:46] <prussian> sure
[16:46] <prussian> do you
[16:46] <k1l_> zergut: its your decision.
[16:46] <zergut> firefox is kinda slow i have it installed already
[16:46] <dstolfa> k1l_: It doesn't _have_ to, but there is no need for moving to 64 bit
[16:46] <zergut> im using in sometimes
[16:46] <zergut> it*
[16:46] <k1l_> dstolfa: as you see the user desperatly wants to run chrome.
[16:46] <prussian> like i said, you can try qemu-user-static and setup a binfmt interpreter for x86_64 ELFs zergut
[16:46] <Southern_Gentlem> zergut,  32bit software will run on a 64bit processor, but you are only getting 50% out of that processor
[16:46] <dstolfa> zergut: Well, you'll have to use something else other than chrome if it's not built for 32-bit
[16:46] <prussian> but that'd be stupid
[16:47] <weboh> directory /crap has a lock on itself and the user is root
[16:47] <zergut> for me, it looks like Chrome is more fast
[16:47] <ivan> Southern_Gentlem: that is not how it works
[16:47] <dstolfa> zergut: Try chromium
[16:47] <Southern_Gentlem> ivan yes it is
[16:47] <johnnyCache> maybe the config file for ssh is not set up right
[16:47] <Southern_Gentlem> but we will agrue about that later
[16:47] <zergut> dstolfa: i have to build it by myself?
[16:47] <dstolfa> zergut: Not if there's an official version that's 32 bit
[16:48] <prussian> johnnyCache: can you confirm the port is open? both being listened on AND externally open?
[16:48] <weboh> I want to delete directory /crap
[16:48] <ivan> Southern_Gentlem: tell me more about how 32-bit software runs at half the speed of 64-bit software
[16:48] <prussian> ss -tl shows something like *:ssh ?
[16:48] <k1l_> zergut: chromium is in the ubuntu repos.
[16:48] <zergut> 64/2=32
[16:48] <zergut> ;)
[16:49] <abcdefy> hey
[16:49] <johnnyCache> the pi3 is in the other room let me try the ss thingie
[16:49] <zergut> k1l_: is it possible to transfer all the history, passwords and bookmarks to it?
[16:49] <zergut> as well as starttab
[16:49] <k1l_> zergut: chromium uses the same plugins and you can connect it to your google account
[16:50] <zergut> i think im not using google cloud
[16:50] <zergut> im not sure
[16:50] <darthanubis> you just sign into the browser with your gmail account
[16:50] <zergut> darthanubis: oh, yes, im signed in
[16:50] <darthanubis> the same account you use for your android phone
[16:51] <zergut> no, i meant i think im not share bookmarks and hystory with google account
[16:51] <weboh> unix for change permissions
[16:51] <darthanubis> when I do that, chromium/chrome logs me in, and if it is a new instance of the browser, loads all of my extensions etc.
[16:51] <prussian> chmod
[16:51] <zergut> history*
[16:51] <darthanubis> it loads those as well. Look in history, or recent tabs from other devices
[16:52] <prussian> ACLs and SELinux stuff is a whole other beast though weboh
[16:52] <zergut> darthanubis: could be i turned it off a couple of years ago
[16:52] <darthanubis> that'll do it
[16:52] <zergut> a'ight, anyway, thank you guys
[16:53] <darthanubis> cheers!
[16:53] <zergut> Chromium or Firefox, i wll try to choose
[16:55] <tehLordVortex> chromium vs firefox: which has lower RAM usage?
[16:56] <prussian> idk
[16:56] <zergut> i think mozilla
[16:56] <zergut> but Chrome is kinda faster for me
[16:56] <dstolfa> tehLordVortex: Firefox is the likely choice, although I am not aware whether or not they've added sandboxing to it recently and increased RAM usage
[16:57] <zergut> Interesting is it subjective belief or objective?
[16:57] <tehLordVortex> hmm...
[16:57] <k1l_> subjective
[16:57] <k1l_> zergut: install both and test yourself what works best.
[16:57] <zergut> so, is that mean i want Firefox to be more slowly and that is why it's slow, right?
[16:57] <dstolfa> tehLordVortex: Chromium generally has to duplicate a TLB entry every time it creates a new tab due to using a sandboxing framework in the likes of capsicum or seccomp
[16:57] <zergut> i have both already
[16:57] <k1l_> and there is no such thing as low ram usage on browsers :)
[16:57] <dstolfa> With that, you end up in more RAM usage
[16:57] <abcdefy> I use debian netinst on a 2gb ram netbook, chromium is smooth firefox is not
[16:58] <weboh> chown: changing ownership of 'crap': Operation not permitted
[16:58] <weboh> why?
[16:58] <tehLordVortex> k1l_: lol, true.
[16:58] <k1l_> weboh: depends on what the file permissions are
[16:58] <dstolfa> abcdefy: That doesn't indicate a RAM problem, as I've got the same issue on 32GB of DDR4 ECC RAM
[16:58] <zergut> yes, yes, it's like more smooth and fast
[16:59] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! My Android Studio on Linux Mint 18 doesn't emulate the smart phones with Android 6.0 over. I think it's the problem of Ubuntu 16.04 which LM is based on.
[16:59] <tehLordVortex> wanna see how far i can go on a 512mb ram android device. i used linuxdeploy to get xenial.
[16:59] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Someone knows the solution?
[16:59] <wafflejock> !mint
[16:59] <prussian> Emmanuel_Chanel: uh do you have qemu installed with a KVM enabled kernel?
[16:59] <zergut> so, Firefox is the same as Chrome
[17:00] <weboh> just a second
[17:00] <k1l_> zergut: no, they are not the same
[17:00] <zergut> if i see Firefox is slow it's only my internal head problem, right?
[17:00] <weboh> drwxr-xr-x 4 root  root      4096 Apr  1 20:46 crap
[17:00] <abcdefy> Emm works for me using ubunutu 16.04
[17:00] <Emmanuel_Chanel> prussian: apt search kvm says only that qemu-kvm is installed.
[17:00] <k1l_> weboh: then use sudo with chown
[17:00] <weboh> It isn't deeno, but the user is 'root'
[17:01] <prussian> Emmanuel_Chanel: k well, you need qemu-system=x86_64 for android emulation
[17:01] <prussian> qemu-system-x86_64
[17:01] <johnnyCache> I can now eat some pi3, I got in, the firewall was set up wrong, to the peeps who gave me suggestions,thanks a bunch for helping out ! Appreciate that !!
[17:01] <prussian> possibly libvirtd
[17:01] <weboh> E: Invalid operation chown
[17:01] <prussian> but idk
[17:01] <zergut> i have 32 tabs in one Chrome window and 7 in another
[17:01] <zergut> and it looks okay
[17:01] <k1l_> weboh: use chown to set the owner to your user
[17:02] <prussian> if you can find qemu-system-x86_64 in your $PATH then something is wrong Emmanuel_Chanel
[17:02] <zergut> when i have 5-8 tabs in Firefox it looks slow
[17:02] <prussian> but i wouldn't even know without more info
[17:02] <weboh> it's a miracle
[17:02] <k1l_> zergut: i think we sorted the technical issues. the rest of the "what browser do i like more" is a bit offtopic to this support channel
[17:02] <weboh> that's incredible because it no longer exist
[17:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> prussian: If it's my problem, how can I fix it?
[17:02] <weboh> exists
[17:03] <prussian> idk it would help if you told me more, like an error message or something
[17:03] <weboh> sudo chown deeno crap
[17:03] <k1l_> Emmanuel_Chanel: mint is not supported here. /cc prussian
[17:03] <zergut> k1l_: yes, i get it sorry, i just trying to solve 2 problems in the row ;)
[17:03] <prussian> it's not even a mint problem. it's some semi-foss java IDE problem
[17:03] <prussian> probably better off finding the android studio channel
[17:04] <zergut> thank you again, and good luck
[17:04] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok. I visit.
[17:04] <weboh> a so thing is how I did it.
[17:05] <Bashing-om> weboh: chown syntax is : chown <USERNAME>:<USERNAME> <file_name>
[17:06] <prussian> well the :group is optional
[17:07] <weboh> Bashing: I had to prefix sudo to it. it only worked as 'sudo chown deeno crap'.
[17:07] <prussian> well ya, it's owned by root
[17:08] <weboh> then 'trash crap'
[17:08] <prussian> and your SELinux policy doesn't prevent sudoers from changing ownership of it
[17:08] <weboh> But I am Kubuntu or Ubuntu. ?
[17:09] <prussian> uh what?
[17:09] <prussian> nevermind
[17:10] <prussian> did you change ownership of the file or not? lol
[17:10] <weboh> I use KDE ubunuta AKA Kubuntu. SELinux, I don't the relevence.
[17:10] <prussian> ya just. nevermind
[17:11] <weboh> SELinux related to Ubuntu?
[17:11] <prussian> SELinux is mandatory access control, pretty much every kernel in any major distro has it.
[17:11] <prussian> whether it's enforcing or not is entirely different story.
[17:12] <weboh> the directory's name is /crap any'ays.
[17:12] <prussian> well
[17:12] <prussian> ok
[17:12] <weboh> I am not australian by the way.
[17:12] <prussian> so you want to change ownership of a dir and all it's children? chown -R username dir
[17:13] <prussian> -R flag for chmod as well to set unix permissions recursively as well
[17:13] <weboh> already did. but I need to say sudo chown <username>, then 'trash <directory>. <directory> is 'crap'.
[17:14] <prussian> ok....? so what is the problem?
[17:14] <weboh> prussian: I believe the sub directories are lost. I hope I don't have to repartition to get memory back. hint hint.
[17:15] <prussian> what? oh lol. did you unlink it?
[17:15] <weboh> I hope there is not a major bug here. hint hint.
[17:15] <prussian> then you're screwed I guess
[17:15] <weboh> prussian: yes
[17:15] <prussian> you can try and scan through with some recovery tool, files that are unlinked aren't necessarily lost right away
[17:15] <prussian> thoguh for the most part, they are
[17:16] <EriC^^> what does "trash" do in kde anyways?
[17:16] <weboh> screwed storage wise or screwed with 'lost' data.
[17:16] <weboh> notice the data is lost, and I expected it to be so.
[17:16] <prussian> .........
[17:16] <prussian> ok
[17:16] <abcdefy> Do you guys use "rm" to delete files?
[17:16] <prussian> well I have no clue what you're on about at this point mate.
[17:16] <weboh> Eric: it keeps deleted files. empty trash means you want have it again.
[17:17] <rogier> abcdefy, yes
[17:17] <rogier> what else?
[17:17] <rogier> :)
[17:17] <prussian> then you're screwed since you unlinked the files from your filesystem, effectively losing references to them and are thus "deleted"
[17:17] <weboh> abcdefy: trash command
[17:17] <rogier> weboh, ?
[17:17] <EriC^^> weboh: look for the files in the trash then?
[17:18] <weboh> prussian: but I haven't losted SSD space either. Or do I need to repartition? this would be bad, but not as ugly.
[17:18] <abcdefy> Because I usually use rm and rm -rf for folders and I think its quite dangerous
[17:18] <prussian> pretty sure empty trash means unlink
[17:18] <weboh> Eric: I am glad they are gone.
[17:18] <prussian> weboh: what? if you're using Btrfs, the free space management can only give you free specase estimates
[17:18] <prussian> so i don't know what to tell you there as well
[17:19] <EriC^^> weboh: ok
[17:19] <weboh> 21.5 free of 21.6 Gib.
[17:19] <prussian> great
[17:19] <prussian> then you're good to go
[17:19] <weboh> Do you want a snapshot.
[17:19] <weboh> ?
[17:19] <prussian> files unlinked, they are deleted. good job.
[17:21] <quard> Hi. Does Ubuntu have a grsecurity kernel in the repos?
[17:22] <kali_> Whenever I open software & updates and try to select the "install updates from" choices, it won't actually check them and I can't find out why
[17:22] <prussian> apt search quard ?
[17:22] <prussian> I doubt it
[17:22] <weboh> I have taken a snapshot of what I think is a glitch. Is it serious?
[17:23] <prussian> i don't think any distro really ships grsecurity stuff other than maybe gentoo
[17:23] <quard> apt doesn't show it, but it's probably because I'm on 16.10. grsec is on LTS kernels
[17:24] <quard> Arch does I think
[17:24] <prussian> rip
[17:26] <zeroeax> hi
[17:27] <zeroeax> is there a command-line way to set my default desktop environment to LXDE from a standard ubuntu installation?
[17:28] <qswz> please, if you're using Sublime, upvote https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1361
[17:28] <qswz> it'll maybe help to do that faster
[17:30] <wjm-> zeroeax: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:30] <wjm-> change session=ubuntu to LXDE.desktop
[17:30] <wjm-> and change [SeatDefaults] to read the same.
[17:35] <ashley_> does anyone know how to find out what graphics driver I am using?
[17:36] <EriC^^> ashley_: lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[17:36] <ashley_> all that seems to do is identify my card
[17:36] <EriC^^> nohting next to driver in use?
[17:37] <ashley_> okay, so it says radeon... so... is that the FOSS driver?
[17:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:39] <ashley_> EriC^^ thank you. I literally have no idea what I am doing with this. I am so used to using the Radeon GUI utility in Windows.
[17:40] <ashley_> is there a graphical utility like the nvidia package has for radeon?
[17:41] <Bashing-om> ashley_: Be aware on 16.04++ kernels - AMD has gone full support for open source and there is no longer a proprietary driver .
[17:42] <ashley_> Bashing-om so... I am best to just leave it alone? It doesn't need any kind of configuration?
[17:43] <Bashing-om> ashley_: Generally yes ! no other operation on your part is needed . IF you have a bleeding edge card . then there are additional layers one can add .
[17:43] <ashley_> Bashing-om is there any way to find out?
[17:46] <Bashing-om> ashley_: The kernel takes care of it's self for AMD drivers . To know drivers -latest - see: http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/general-interest/11-amd-gpu-support-with-amdgpu-and-amdgpu-pro .
[17:46] <wastrel> :(
[17:46] <ashley_> Bashing-om ty for the help. It is appreciated greatly.
[17:46] <Bashing-om> ashley_: Also: GPUs Possibly Supported by AMDGPU and AMDGPU-PRO Eventually <- http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end
[17:47] <ashley_> ents - The Linux Documentation Project
[17:47] <ashley_> whoops
[17:47] <ashley_> Bashing-om great, cheers!
[17:48] <Bashing-om> ashley_: :) . We are here to help, and help is what we do .
[17:48] <zeroeax> lol, i bricked another one
[17:48] <zeroeax> oops wrong channel
[17:56] <laurens_> hi
[17:56] <laurens_> what is the purpose of this chat room
[17:57] <k1l_> !ontopic | laurens_
[18:02] <u0_a215> Is Ubuntu LTS better?
[18:03] <wedgie> it is supported for more than 9 months, so thats a plus if you dont like upgrading often
[18:03] <k1l_> u0_a215: better in what sense. first thing is, that you need to upgrade to the next version every 6 months on non-lts.
[18:04] <wedgie> the downside is that they only come out every 2 years so the regular releases may have newer versions of packages
[18:07] <p0bs> does anybody know how to config ssh x11forwarding on ubuntu 16.04?
[18:07] <wjm-> u0_a215: 'most' people will not know the diff between LTS and Ubuntu.
[18:07] <wedgie> p0bs: configure it in what sense? what are you trying tondo?
[18:07] <wedgie> *to do
[18:13] <wjm-> IRC'ing as root is a bad idea.
[18:13] <p0bs> i want to forward the server x to my local comuper, but it nerver worked
[18:13] <Guest28004> hello world
[18:14] <ioria> p0bs, should be enabled by default now in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, iirc
[18:14] <Guest28004> ok
[18:14] <p0bs> the x11fowarding is yes
[18:15] <ioria> p0bs, yes
[18:15] <p0bs> i tried many times
[18:15] <ioria> p0bs,  with -X or -Y flag ?
[18:15] <p0bs> but it didnt work
[18:15] <p0bs> i used xmanager
[18:16] <ioria> p0bs,  i don't use it
[18:16] <minimec> p0bs: That should work out of the box. just 'ssh <yourname>@<yourcomputer> -X'
[18:16] <ioria> p0bs,  try the cli, and change -X to -Y if you have issues
[18:17] <p0bs> i will try next time
[18:17] <p0bs> thanks
[18:17] <ioria> np
[18:23] <zenguy> you think trump uses ubuntu 16.04 or 17.04(beta)
[18:24] <zenguy> hmm probably a mac guy come to think of it
[18:24] <k1l_> zenguy: this is a support only channel
[18:24] <zenguy> ok np :)
[18:24] <Jackson765> leave
[18:25] <prussian> "support only channel" meh
[18:25] <compdoc> heh
[18:27] <pheurton> hey anybody know how I can get my amd graphics working properly on ubuntu?
[18:28] <pheurton> I've had to boot in nomodeset and it's all weird
[18:30] <ioria> pheurton, not booting without nomodeset ?
[18:30] <wellick> hi, i want to use an usb flash drive to install ubuntu, but despite it being 8 gb it says it's maximum capacity it's only 2 mb. do you know what could be the problem?
[18:31] <ioria> wellick, probably format it ?
[18:31] <compdoc> wellick, sometimes you have reformat and have the program set the size again
[18:31] <MarderIII> defective or different partitions on it
[18:31] <MarderIII> use gparted?
[18:32] <compdoc> something you installed only needed 2 mb and set that size
[18:32] <wellick> i've formated it and still have the same problem
[18:32] <tomreyn> wellick: did you buy it new or have you used it before with higher capacity? what is the "it" that is telling yu the capacity now?
[18:32] <compdoc> gparted might do it
[18:32] <ioria> wellick,   what software are you using to create the stick ?
[18:32] <wellick> it being stupid windows 10
[18:32] <wellick> i will try gparted
[18:32] <ioria> wellick,   if you are on linux use dd
[18:33] <wellick> i am on windows 10
[18:33] <compdoc> wellick, for windows use a program named SDFormatter
[18:33] <ioria> wellick,   so, rufus
[18:35] <wellick> ok, using rufus
[18:35] <pheurton> ioria it boots to a black screen on nomodeset
[18:36] <ioria> pheurton,  ok, but i asked you what happens if you boot 'without' nomodeset
[18:36] <pheurton> sorry I meant without nomodeset
[18:37] <ioria> pheurton,  can you paste    lspci -k | grep VGA -A2      (on paste.ubuntu.com)
[18:38] <pheurton> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G]
[18:38] <pheurton> 	DeviceName: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6620G
[18:38] <pheurton> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G]
[18:41] <ioria> pheurton,  don't you have a '	Kernel driver in use: ' line ?   (and i asked you to paste on paste.ubuntu.com)
[18:42] <pheurton> ioria, I can't see that line in the output, something to do with nomodeset? (sorry)
[18:42] <ioria> pheurton,  sure, sy
[18:43] <ioria> pheurton,  ubuntu 16.04 ?
[18:43] <pheurton> 16.10
[18:44] <ioria> pheurton,  so, if you boot without nomodeset you got a  (black screen) ?
[18:44] <pheurton> ioria, yep right after the grub menu
[18:46] <ioria> pheurton,  your card is not listed in this  list indeed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:46] <pheurton> ioria, so it won't work with the amdgpu driver either?
[18:50] <ioria> pheurton,  it's a freash install right ?
[18:50] <ioria> *fresh
[18:50] <konrados> Morning. Is there any terminal file editor, like nano or vim, but for users who don't want to lean those... weird commands / keyboard shortcuts? Like I want to ctrl+F to find, f3 to find next, ctrl+s to save and escape to quit current mode - I've just pressed Ctr+R on nano to "read file" - and I have no idea how to close it, escape doesn't work, I know I can just press enter to "cancel" it but it's so unintuitive that I got nervous :)
[18:51] <pheurton> ioria, yes fresh install from a live USB
[18:51] <wastrel> nano is pretty easy, everything you need to know is displayed on the bottom of the screen
[18:51] <wastrel> i like vim tho
[18:51] <hid> vim = life
[18:52] <kk4ewt> if you learn vim no matter what linux box you are on you can use vi(m)
[18:52] <ioria> pheurton,  i don't know... you can try with ubuntu 14.04 ... it supports fglrx (amd proprietary drivers)
[18:53] <konrados> Yes - but wastrel - Ctrl+O to *save* a file in nano?  Ctrl+W to *find*? I work with various IDE's - I'm a dev, I use those apps no more than once a day for a minute or so, I just can't remember those shortcuts :(
[18:54] <konrados> I mean I use vim/nano no more than once a day...
[18:54] <ChaiTRex> konrados: You might be able to change the shortcuts: https://askubuntu.com/questions/235664/how-can-i-change-the-keyboard-shortcuts-in-nano
[18:54] <pheurton> ioria, 14.04 huh. Might give it a try thanks.
[18:54] <ioria> pheurton,  no more idead, sy
[18:54] <ioria> *s
[18:55] <pheurton> ioria, or should I just use a lighter distro
[18:55] <ioria> pheurton,  the drivers are the same... but you can try xubuntu
[18:55] <hendr2k> hello
[18:55] <konrados> oh, didn't expect that, pheurton - so I didn't even google that :) - Thanks - I'll play with it:)
[18:55] <hendr2k> exit
[18:55] <hendr2k> t
[18:55] <hendr2k> t
[18:55] <hendr2k> awe
[18:55] <hendr2k> erag
[18:55] <hendr2k> sfd
[18:56] <hendr2k> df
[18:56] <konrados> I meant ChaiTRex - thanks!
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> hendr2k  it works, ask your ubutu question
[18:56] <ChaiTRex> konrados: See `man 5 nanorc` for details.
[18:56] <konrados> sec...
[18:57] <konrados> And Ctrl+X to exit nano, jeeeeeez...
[18:58] <pheurton> ioria, thanks for the help. I thought it would be a bit easier to get the latest  ubuntu working on a 2012 laptop
[18:58] <wastrel> i hate using ctrl combinations
[18:59] <ioria> pheurton,  wait ...
[18:59] <pheurton> ioria, yes?
[19:00] <ioria> pheurton,  found something about disabling kms ....
[19:00] <pheurton> ioria: interesting
[19:01] <ioria> pheurton,  https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling_KMS
[19:02] <pheurton> ioria: wait, wouldn't that just be the same as setting nomodeset?
[19:02] <ioria> pheurton,  maybe it works better ....
[19:05] <pheurton> ioria: weird, I couldn't find either of those conf files in /etc/
[19:05] <pheurton> ioria: I only found amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf
[19:05] <ioria> pheurton,  i think you need to create it
[19:06] <pheurton> ioria: gotcha
[19:09] <ioria> pheurton,  put this inside it   options radeon modeset=1
[19:10] <ioria> pheurton,  in /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf  i mean
[19:11] <pheurton> ioria: thanks. so you don't think it was booting with the radeon driver?
[19:11] <ioria> pheurton,  now   run  sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u
[19:14] <pheurton> ioria: generating /boot/initrd.img...
[19:15] <ioria> pheurton,  ok ... how did you set nomodeset in the Grub screen or in /etc/default/grub ?
[19:15] <pheurton> in the grub screen
[19:15] <ioria> pheurton,  ok , try to reboot
[19:16] <pheurton> ioria: okay see you on the other side my friend
[19:16] <ioria> pheurton,  good luck
[19:19] <anony_romania> hi all
[19:21] <konrados> I press Ctrl+S in nano, and now I see a "XOFF ignored, mumble mumble" message - how can I rid of that?
[19:21] <konrados> *of that message - I just want it to disappear
[19:26] <OerHeks> You typed the XOFF character Ctrl-S. In a traditional terminal environment, XOFF would cause the terminal to pause it's output until you typed the XON character.... = Ctrl+Q (XON)
[19:27] <glachas> Where to ask questions related to ssh?
[19:28] <OerHeks> glachas, if ubuntu related, here
[19:28] <BluesKaj> glachas, if you ssh on ubuntu or it's flavours, this is place
[19:28] <bharhav> #ubuntu
[19:28] <BluesKaj> the place even
[19:28] <bharhav> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[19:28] <glachas> OerHeks: ok!
[19:29] <pheurton> ioria: hey I'm back in recovery mode
[19:29] <pheurton> ioria: now even booting in nomodeset causes a black screen
[19:29] <ioria> pheurton,  not working ?
[19:29] <ioria> pheurton,  rm /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
[19:30] <bharhav> what happens is when i close the lid,  the laptop shutsdown completely. Then when i open lid it starts,  i mean the whole laptop starts then boot menu then login
[19:30] <konrados> OerHeks, - thanks!
[19:30] <bharhav> i want the laptop to do nothing on closing lid
[19:30] <glachas> In remote server common commands on terminals are not working like 'ctrl+l'. Is there any way to make this work?
[19:30] <bharhav> tried all methods
[19:30] <ulkesh> I have a Mac sharing folders via SMB.  I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 and when I try to connect to those SMB shares (via smb://IP/ShareName or via smb://IP ), it keeps asking for my password (with a domain called "WORKGROUP").  Any ideas how I can get this to work?  I have SMB turned on and an account specified on the Mac side.
[19:30] <pheurton> ioria: removed it
[19:31] <ioria> pheurton,  update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u
[19:31] <pheurton> ioria: generating...
[19:31] <konrados> in here we can read "M- followed by a printable character or the word "Space".  Example: M-C" what is this "M"? I understand the rest of the modifiers (^ and F) - but "M"?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/nanorc.5.html
[19:31] <EriC^^> bharhav:did you see settings > power?
[19:31] <ulkesh> nevermind, a different piece of the "Network" settings in the file manager for Ubuntu allowed me to specify a user/password without some domain and it works now
[19:31] <t-mart> @konrados: pretty sure that's "Meta"
[19:32] <bharhav> yes eric...  all those basic settings i tried.  even tried dconf thing
[19:32] <konrados> sec...
[19:32] <EriC^^> glachas: you can use screen to lock the screen
[19:32] <ioria> pheurton,  when it finishes , reboot with nomodeset
[19:32] <pheurton> ioria: okay see you in a sec
[19:33] <pheurton> ioria: thanks so much for helping
[19:33] <konrados> How in nano can we bind a key without a modifier like M F or ^? I want "escape" to cancel current command
[19:33] <ioria> pheurton,  there is a buf for your card
[19:33] <ioria> *bug
[19:33] <ioria> pheurton,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1624915
[19:33] <pheurton> ioria: oh is there? yeah it does seem pretty inconsisten with its boot issues
[19:33] <bharhav>  please tell
[19:34] <glachas> Eric^^: Its not for locking the screen its clearing the terminal. Not only this command many commands are not working.
[19:34] <j4g0> glachas, ctrl-l is a property of your bash
[19:34] <j4g0> man bash
[19:34] <ioria> pheurton,  i suggest or xubuntu 16.10 or trusty 14.04
[19:35] <pheurton> ioria: yeah I've also experienced the suspend issue that they mentioned
[19:36] <ioria> pheurton, with the new version of ubuntu amd/ati are troublesome
[19:36] <pheurton> ioria: I'll have a go with 14.04 since it has the AMD catalyst support. although people have told me I should use a different distro altogether
[19:36] <ioria> pheurton, trusty is really great, trust me
[19:37] <ioria> pheurton, i'am still using it
[19:37] <glachas> j4g0: I am remotely accessing ubuntu 16.04 LTS. In which some common commands are not working like 'pressing the upper arrow key should give me the latest command typed on the terminal'.
[19:37] <pheurton> ioria: only problem is I hate not using the latest version of anything
[19:37] <ioria> pheurton, i see
[19:38] <yukip> w10 wins again
[19:39] <yukip> each tterminal has a seperate history
[19:39] <j4g0> what shell are you on the remote machine?
[19:39] <j4g0> *using
[19:41] <glachas> j4g0: GNU 5.6.x
[19:42] <t-mart> @pheurton: are you talking about the Ctrl-S thing?
[19:43] <pheurton> t-mart: what ctrl s thing?
[19:43] <t-mart> @pheurton: someone mentioned it earlier, but nevermind. different thing
[19:43] <pheurton> t-mart: ah okay
[19:45] <farribeiro> help to build a snap package... I have built firefox + deb package (as daemon)... not have any document for this
[19:46] <j4g0> glachas, what does "echo $0" give out?
[19:46] <tux1> Hey guys!
[19:46] <tux1> Is anybody here who knows a thing about virtualbox-kernel issues on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[19:46] <konrados> I have a nano /tmp/test running in the background, I do sudo killall nano - but htop tells me it's still there, what am I missing?
[19:46] <glachas> j4g0: -sh
[19:46] <k1l_> farribeiro: #snappy might be the better place
[19:47] <wedgie> konrados: use ''fg'' to get back to it
[19:47] <farribeiro> great... i'm joining now
[19:47] <konrados> sec...
[19:48] <konrados> wedgie, - htop tells me nano process id = 809 so I do  fg 809 and get "No suitable job: 809"?
[19:49] <wedgie> because process ids are not job ids. use ''jobs'' to see those.
[19:50] <konrados> oh... another linux term to learn :)
[19:50] <konrados> jobs result - "there are no jobs"
[19:50] <wedgie> is this the same terminal from where you started nano?
[19:51] <konrados> Not sure wedgie - I have many terminals opened:) Does it matter? OK it seems it does, but why can't I kill it with killall?
[19:51] <ppf> ducasse: fyi i gave mosh a try. fun little tool, but i doesn't work if there are firewalls or NATs on its path
[19:52] <wedgie> konrados: default signal for kill is "term" which asks the program to shut down nicely. it probably want to prompt if you want tonsave or whatever and so it ignores it
[19:52] <ppf> which is kind of a dealbreaker, sadly :/
[19:52] <j4g0> glachas, on your own mashine (not remote) does echo $0 print out -bash ?
[19:53] <konrados> ah, thanks wedgie!
[19:53] <wedgie> konrados: you can send the "kill" signal with -9 to force it, but its best to leave that as a last resort
[19:53] <glachas> j4g0: only bash
[19:53] <konrados> Thanks again wedgie - btw - so a "job" is process running in background in current terminal?
[19:54] <konrados> I managed to find the terminal I started nano with - and yes, 'jobs' lists it.
[19:54] <konrados> With id == 1
[19:54] <wedgie> correct. put there either by running ''command &'' or by running a command and pressing ctrl+z
[19:54] <j4g0> hmk, so your remote box runs another shell (or does not link to bash), see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5725296/difference-between-sh-and-bash for more explanation
[19:55] <wedgie> konrados: so ''fg 1'' or just fg if there are only 1 of them. and fhen exit it nnomally
[19:55] <j4g0> to use the properties you know from your own machine, you'd have to change your shell on the remote system
[19:56] <konrados> Thank you wedgie ! But... I'm pretty sure I won't remember it, because I can't see a logical reason behind this. Why do linux care about in what terminal I started a process, why this difference, why not "processes" only? How is this useful for me that there are "jobs"?
[19:56] <konrados> In what real world scenario those "jobs" are useful for me?
[19:57] <wedgie> ppf: mosh works with firewalls and nat the same as any other service
[19:57] <wedgie> konrados: frankly i rarely use it. but can be useful if for whatever reason you only have 1 terminal available
[19:58] <ppf> wedgie: yes
[19:58] <konrados> ok, thanks:)
[19:58] <ppf> and can't thus not replace ssh for me :)
[19:59] <wedgie> ppf: uh... alright
[20:01] <konrados> There is no "nano" process according to htop, yet when I do nano /tmp/test I get "file /tmp/test is being edited (by konrad with nano 2.5.3, PID 809); continue?" - and no there is no temporary in this dir like test.lock - what gives?
[20:02] <konrados> *no temporary file
[20:03] <wellick> it's working =)
[20:03] <gr0gg|ex> I'm new to networking and think I screwed up my IPTable config for SSH guard. I'm trying to apply the SSHGuard rule to port 22:
[20:03] <gr0gg|ex> https://bpaste.net/raw/02a581d1a958
[20:03] <gr0gg|ex> Does that look right?
[20:03] <leaftype> how do I see how much ram the integrated gpu is taking
[20:03] <slyrobot> I want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?
[20:03] <slyrobot> *This
[20:04] <gr0gg|ex> What concerns me is the two 'all' rules listed above the port 22 rule.
[20:04] <ppf> wedgie:
[20:05] <ppf> udp get tricky some times with NAT
[20:06] <ppf> and the firewall on the remote system is anal
[20:06] <slyrobot> Anyone ? I want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?
[20:06] <konrados> and "ps aux | grep nano" gives me "konrad    1569  0.0  0.0  15444   928" - I'm really lost here...
[20:07] <konrados> Why htop doesn't show it?
[20:07] <wedgie> ppf: just need the right portforwards. the one irritating thing about mosh is that you need a bunch of ports, but aside from that its no different from anything else. very similar to torrents in that respect, actually
[20:08] <j4g0> konrados, does htop with root access not show it either?
[20:08] <ppf> wedgie: yes i realize
[20:08] <slyrobot> Is there any fix for that IM problem ?
[20:08] <konrados> j4g0, - no it does not, i.e. sudo htop and then F4 to find a process gives nothing
[20:10] <glachas> j4g0: But it should be able to run normal linux commands?
[20:11] <glachas> as sh also supports it.
[20:11] <konrados> I think I need melissa :)
[20:11] <slyrobot> I want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?
[20:12] <konrados> I just wanted to change nano keyboard bindings and now I can't kill this darn nano process...
[20:12] <j4g0> glachas, instead of ctrl-l the clear command should work, doesn't it?
[20:12] <j4g0> konrados sry, i don't usually use nano :)
[20:13] <slyrobot> I want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : his IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?
[20:14] <glachas> j4g0: Ok! understood. It means there are different commands in sh for different purposes which are different than in bash.
[20:14] <Lorne> Hi - I need some patient person to help walk me thru setting up the appropriate CHMOD's for my Plex server to see the files on my external hard drive...anyone?
[20:15] <j4g0> glachas, kind of :) the commands should be the same but  the properties may be different
[20:16] <slyrobot>  want to use telegram in IM (Instant Messaging) but I get the error : This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'morse' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'telegram'. Please try installing morse with your package manager. Does anyone know how to fix it ?
[20:16] <glachas> j4g0: Can you tell me where will I get details of commads for sh.
[20:17] <EriC^^> glachas: why not use bash on the remote one? it's the ubuntu default shell
[20:18] <j4g0> glachas, depending on wheter or not you have root access on your remote machine you could use https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ and change your shell there to bash
[20:18] <glachas> Eric^^: I don't know how to link?
[20:19] <EriC^^> glachas: type "chsh"
[20:19] <xangua> slyrobot: you know, you can just open the telegram web client in any browser or use the telegram desktop app
[20:19] <j4g0> glachas, to change shell see https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-linux-unix-freebsd-login-shell/ for example
[20:20] <j4g0> konrados, did you try to kill it via kill command or (indirectly) via htop?
[20:20] <slyrobot> Yes. But i want to use Instant Messaging.
[20:22] <xangua> slyrobot: I imagine the plugin you want to use is a libpurple plugin, so you may wanna check pidgin site or the channel #pidgin
[20:22] <Erick3k> hi
[20:22] <j4g0> ho
[20:23] <glachas> Eric, j4g0: Its saying 'you may not change the shell <username>'
[20:23] <Erick3k> i am changing the disk size and when the machine is turned on gets stuck here https://i.imgur.com/tWkFmqX.png
[20:24] <Erick3k> its a cloud image
[20:24] <Erick3k> can someone help?
[20:26] <xangua> slyrobot: I'm reading Morse is a telepathy connector, but it specifically mentioned being a qt telepathy connector.. So maybe doesn't work with empathy? Are you using KDE?
[20:26] <arpit1294> hi
[20:26] <j4g0> glachas, did you try to change the shell of a different user than the one you used to shh ?
[20:27] <EriC^^> glachas: what's the currently set shell? try "getent passwd <user>" and look at the last column
[20:30] <Erick3k> can someone help me, ubuntu getting stuck at boot after resizing disk
[20:30] <glachas> j4g0: Actually, I have admin access to that system to which I am remotely accessing. And yes I tried changing the shell.
[20:30] <glachas> Eric^^: Currently, -sh
[20:31] <j4g0> an bash is available on the system? "less /etc/shells"
[20:31] <j4g0> *and
[20:32] <glachas> Eric^^: The last column is giving me the path of the current directory(I think) "home/<username>".
[20:32] <glachas> j4g0: Yes
[20:33] <EriC^^> glachas: aha the user doesn't have a set shell then
[20:33] <EriC^^> glachas: is the user disabled or something?
[20:34] <glachas> Eric^^: How to check that?
[20:34] <glachas> :(
[20:35] <EriC^^> glachas: try "passwd -S <user>"
[20:35] <EriC^^> look at the end field
[20:35] <EriC^^> *2nd
[20:37] <glachas> Eric^^: After username ? It is 'P'
[20:37] <EriC^^> glachas: that means it's good
[20:37] <EriC^^> glachas: try "sudo chsh <user>" and see if it'll let you set it
[20:38] <EriC^^> glachas: when it asks for login shell type "/bin/bash"
[20:39] <glachas> Eric^^: Did.
[20:39] <EriC^^> glachas: ok try to logout and back in and it should work
[20:41] <glachas> Eric^^: It again showing '-sh' when typed "echo $0"
[20:41] <glachas> :(
[20:41] <EriC^^> getent passwd <user> shows /bin/bash at the end?
[20:42] <s7rawman> I'm getting an error when running sudo apt update. The specific error is Subprocess .../dpkg returned an error code 1
[20:42] <s7rawman> any pointers?
[20:42] <EriC^^> s7rawman: paste the error info before that in a pastebin
[20:42] <k1l_> s7rawman: that is not the full output. so no, there are no pointers with only that line.
[20:42] <glachas> Eric^^: It is showing username.
[20:43] <konrados> I'm really sorry for the stupid mistake I made, when I do the ``ps aux  | grep nano`` it shows me... the "grep" command - and I was sure it's a nano process running. But...
[20:43] <s7rawman> would you want the sudo dpkg --configure a output? or just the sudo apt update ouput?
[20:43] <EriC^^> glachas: try "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash <user>"
[20:43] <konrados> But I still don't know why I get "file /tmp/test is being edited (by konrad with nano 2.5.3, PID 809); continue"
[20:44] <k1l_> s7rawman: run sudo apt update and put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[20:46] <konrados> Anybody? Or should I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2F1rFmyQmY ?
[20:47] <k1l_> konrados: there might be some lock file left or such.
[20:47] <s7rawman> paste link here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24302321/
[20:47] <konrados> k1l_, - like... where?
[20:47] <konrados> How can I know this?
[20:47] <k1l_> look at the folder where the file is located
[20:48] <konrados> Yes I did that k1l_ - nothing.
[20:48] <k1l_> s7rawman: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[20:48] <s7rawman> how do I find which specific drive that is?
[20:48] <k1l_> s7rawman: "df -h"
[20:49] <zeroeax> Is there a limit to how much swap space I can have if I used LVM?
[20:49] <glachas> Eric^^: Now it is working fine. It get changed to /bin/bash. The problem was that I am not updating the database.
[20:50] <zeroeax> like, if I'm compiling something really massive and it ends up using 10gb of swap, will LVM adjust things so it has that much to use?
[20:50] <s7rawman> it appears /boot is full?
[20:50] <glachas> Eric^^: j4g0: Thanx :)
[20:50] <k1l_> s7rawman: i dont know, i cant see what you see
[20:50] <j4g0> glachas: you're welcome :)
[20:50] <EriC^^> glachas: no problem
[20:51] <zeroeax> I doubt anything is going to use that much RAM, but right now it only has 2gb of swap and I only have 4gb of ram, and I'm compiling something very big with a very ram expensive version of gcc tailored to the architecture I'm compiling for
[20:51] <willytell> s7rawman: run "df -h" and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:52] <zeroeax> so going over 6gb of ram total usage might happen, will LVM adjust to add more swap?
[20:52] <zeroeax> or can I force LVM to allocate more swap?
[20:53] <s7rawman> willytell: how do I just pipe it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[20:53] <EriC^^> s7rawman: command | pastebinit
[20:53] <k1l_> s7rawman: df- h | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:53] <rhombus> I have an external repository added to my system, but synaptic does not see packages in that repository. Why not?
[20:54] <k1l_> rhombus: run "sudo apt update"
[20:54] <s7rawman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24302364/
[20:54] <rhombus> k1l_: what does that do?
[20:54] <Delvien> rhombus: sudo apt-get update
[20:55] <k1l_> rhombus: it reads the sources.list and looks at the servers for an recent packages list
[20:55] <OerHeks> rhombus, care to share what repo, and on what ubuntu?
[20:56] <k1l_> s7rawman: remove some of the not used kernel images packages manually with "sudo dpkg -r package1 package2...."
[20:56] <rhombus> OerHeks: It's the xbmc repo
[20:56] <s7rawman> k1l_: alright. thank you
[20:56] <rhombus> k1l_: I've already done "sudo apt update" numerous times, it has had no effect
[20:56] <rhombus> OerHeks: It's like it is totally ignoring the packages in it
[20:56] <k1l_> rhombus: did it show any errors then?
[20:57] <technochips> need help, when i try to record audio, it shows a very loud static noise
[20:57] <technochips> using my laptop microphone
[20:58] <technochips> tried to google it, but couldn't fix it
[20:58] <technochips> mic boost in alsamixer doesn't do anything
[20:58] <k1l_> technochips: some laptops have bad wires. try to unplug the energy cable
[20:58] <rhombus> k1l_: it does complain with "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11:resource temporarily unavailable)" and "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), is another process using it?"
[20:59] <rhombus> k1l_: probably because I have synaptic running
[20:59] <k1l_> rhombus: yes
[20:59] <technochips> also: i made a dual boot, on windows it works well, no static noise
[20:59] <Delvien> k1l_:  The energy cable.
[21:00] <rhombus> ok, so... I've done sudo apt update and it has made no difference
[21:00] <rhombus> but I have checked the repo via its http page and there are packages in there that are not showing up in apt
[21:00] <k1l_> rhombus: please put the output to a pastebin.
[21:01] <Kiicki> It seems like I have a v-sync issue with the driver "fglrx-updates" Where if V-sync is ON in the Catalyst I will get 30fps in Minecraft. Changing V-sync ON/OFF in the game itself won't matter if the V-sync is on in Catalyst. If I turn V-sync OFF in Catalyst, then I will get screen tear watching Youtube so I kinda need to have it on for that to work. Anyways,
[21:01] <Kiicki> when V-sync is OFF in Catalyst and it's OFF in Minecraft, I get 60 FPS. I turn ON V-sync in Minecraft, I'm back at 30FPS. It's like V-sync is set to 30fps or something even though I use a 60hz monitor. I use Minecraft as a test kinda thing as it's fast to install
[21:01] <Kiicki> Hope that made any sense
[21:01] <Delvien> Kiicki: check your refresh rate on your video output with xrandr
[21:01] <rhombus> k1l_: which output?
[21:02] <k1l_> rhombus: "sudo apt update"
[21:02] <rhombus> k1l_: hang on, it's on another machine
[21:02] <Kiicki> Delvien thanks but how do I do that? If it's more complicated than I will look into it
[21:05] <willytell> s7rawman, old kernel images packages can be removed from gui or command line, anyway, don't remove your latest kernel image. See the different versions of each kernel image package.
[21:06] <zeroeax> guys, will LVM adjust my swap size if I need more swap?
[21:06] <zeroeax> or do I need to manually tell it to use more swap?
[21:06] <rhombus> k1l_: ok, that was a good hint -- it appears the repo in question is not in the sudo apt-get update output.
[21:06] <s7rawman> willytell k1l_ thank you. I'm getting them removed now. thank you
[21:06] <k1l_> rhombus: so what did you add where?
[21:06] <rhombus> k1l_: but when I open synaptic package manager and look in settings and other repositories, it's listed there and is checked off
[21:07] <k1l_> rhombus: would actually help to see the facts :/
[21:07] <rhombus> k1l_: you want to see the output?
[21:07] <Delvien> Kiicki: just type in xrandr, into a term, and it will show you the refresh rate
[21:07] <rhombus> I can give you the pastebin link
[21:08] <k1l_> rhombus: yes
[21:08] <Delvien> Kiicki:  for example, mine says:  1600x900      60.00*+ (on my laptop atm)
[21:08] <rhombus> k1l_: I followed the instructions listed here: http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux
[21:08] <rhombus> k1l_: under item 1
[21:09] <rhombus> k1l_: here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/3790727
[21:10] <wellick> greetings, trying linux for the first time. I have 2 hard disks, one with ubuntu and the other for storage. I can't seem to be able to find my 2nd disk though...
[21:10] <FAKECLOUDS> good day
[21:11] <technochips> wellick: does it shows in the disks application?
[21:11] <Kiicki> Delvien Thanks, I kinda lied and I'm on Mint atm. I'm just trying different stuff and the command did work but I get a lot of different things here
[21:11] <k1l_> rhombus:  "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:11] <Bashing-om> wellick: Pastebin the output of terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see then what the system sees .
[21:11] <Delvien> Kiicki: mint is basically ubuntu, pastebin your output of xrandr
[21:11] <rhombus> k1l_: so, for some strange reason, it's not being updated here, but yet it's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:12] <zeroeax> Ok since no one answered I just did a test where I filled my ram with garbage using a looping memory leak in a 20 line C program... LVM will NOT adjust your swap space if you need more
[21:12] <k1l_> Kiicki: Delvien mint is not supported here since they change stuff. so ask their support
[21:12] <zeroeax> now I need to read the LVM manuals to figure out how to add more
[21:12] <k1l_> !mint | Kiicki
[21:12] <Delvien> k1l_ I'll support whatever I want to support mind yur beeswax
[21:13] <k1l_> !guidelines | Delvien
[21:13] <Kiicki> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24302476/
[21:13] <Delvien> Kiicki: still, pastebin your output
[21:13] <k1l_> Delvien: you can support what you want but not in #ubuntu
[21:13] <Kiicki> Delvien I was on it. Had to log in to IRC
[21:13] <Delvien> Kiicki: its running at 60 hz, so maybe its a minecraft problem?
[21:13] <Kiicki> k1l_ I know but the issue is the same
[21:13] <Kiicki> Delvien maybe
[21:14] <Kiicki> but even with v-sync off there, if I enable v-sync in catalyst, same 30fps issue Delvien
[21:14] <k1l_> Kiicki: doesnt matter. ask them. they have own support channels and forums. please keep this channel to the ubuntu users. thanks
[21:14] <Delvien> Kiicki:  you said you had nvidia right? Turn off adaptive vsync
[21:14] <thatlizdude> hi, what USB format is supported on Ubuntu?
[21:14] <Kiicki> No, got AMD HD 5450. Using the fgrlx-updates driver Delvien
[21:14] <Ben64> thatlizdude: not sure what you mean by usb format
[21:14] <k1l_> thatlizdude: you mean for data usb pendrive?
[21:15] <Delvien> thatlizdude: everything if you have the right FS "libs"
[21:15] <rhombus> k1l_: termbin.com/21qs
[21:15] <wellick> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/HEVhNQ4n
[21:15] <thatlizdude> Like NTFS, FAT
[21:15] <thatlizdude> i have mine ExFAT I think and it can't be read
[21:15] <Ben64> thatlizdude: pretty much everything
[21:15] <k1l_> rhombus: so what package do you want to install?
[21:16] <Delvien> Kiicki: one post said "dont use vsync. and use fast math instead in the performance settings" dont know what that means, but hopefully it helps
[21:16] <Ben64> thatlizdude: you'll want to install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils
[21:16] <thatlizdude> ok thanks
[21:16] <rhombus> kodi, from the xbmc repo
[21:16] <rhombus> k1l_: kodi, from the xbmc repo
[21:17] <geirha> what does   apt-cache policy kodi   output?
[21:17] <Bashing-om> wellick: Your drive is seen , 1sr drive of 640GB has ubuntu, and the 2nd 1000GB is stirage with a Windows file system, NTFS , How are you trying to access the 2nd drive ?
[21:18] <k1l_> rhombus: "apt-cache policy kodi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:18] <wellick> ther 2nd drive is an external drive I have connected. But I also have a 2nd internal drive.
[21:18] <wellick> I know it's there and working, I've been using it with windows 7.
[21:19] <rhombus> k1l_: termbin.com/rstu
[21:19] <k1l_> rhombus: sudo apt-get install kodi
[21:19] <wellick> when I click files it should appear somewhere around "Computer", I suppose...
[21:20] <rhombus> k1l_: then it installs the the wrong package -- 2:14.2~git20150327.1058-final-0precise
[21:20] <rhombus> k1l_: which is not what I want
[21:20] <rhombus> k1l_: the repo contains 2:17.1
[21:20] <k1l_> rhombus: but that is what the ppa contains
[21:21] <Bashing-om> wellick: What Windows calls a drive is actually a partition , That 1st drive only has ubuntu on it .
[21:21] <rhombus> k1l_: the ppa contains this: https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:21] <k1l_> rhombus: you run ubutnu 12.04 (which is from 2012 and looses support in few days).
[21:21] <k1l_> rhombus: so you need to look what packages are for precise in that ppa. not the latest one you find.
[21:22] <wellick> bashing-om: interesting thing is, I don't remember my primary drive having so many gigas. is it possible that ubuntu is considering those 640 gb as the sum of the two disks?
[21:22] <rhombus> k1l_: ah -- so it is distro version dependent
[21:22] <rhombus> k1l_: sorry, I am a Gentoo user, we don't have "distro versions" :)
[21:22] <k1l_> rhombus: use the "published in " dropdown, to let it show you the 12.04 pacakges
[21:22] <rhombus> k1l_: ah, ok
[21:22] <k1l_> rhombus: yes, you have the nearly dead release
[21:22] <rhombus> k1l_: now I get it
[21:23] <wellick> Bashing-om: a btw, I just installed ubuntu and erased windows 10. that drive was deleted but the contents of the 2nd drive, should be there, right?
[21:23] <rhombus> k1l_: I guess "Long-Term Support" doesn't mean "Forever Support"
[21:23] <Bashing-om> wellick: When ya look at the numbers . all that is on that drive is linux . - but ' sudo fdisk -lu ' will relate better to the numbers .
[21:23] <k1l_> rhombus: no, it means 5 years support. instead of 9 months for the non-lts
[21:23] <Delvien> wellick: yes
[21:24] <Bashing-om> wellick: IF there were 2 physical hard drives in the machine then yes - that other drive should not have been touched . When you boot up, does bios show 3 drives presently ?
[21:25] <rhombus> k1l_: ok, thank you for your help, I learned a few new things
[21:25] <Ben64> rhombus: now time to upgrade to at least 14.04
[21:25] <wellick> Bashing-om: haven't booted yet
[21:25] <rhombus> Ben64: I'm going to do that
[21:26] <sweatsuit> navigate
[21:26] <sweatsuit> exit
[21:26] <Bashing-om> wellick: My concern here is that you have replaced Windows with ubuntu on that 1st drive .
[21:27] <wellick> 1st or 2nd? you mean my drive that didn't have windows?
[21:27] <wellick> I had most things backed up so it's not catastrophic.
[21:28] <Bashing-om> wellick: On that 2nd drive is a single partition .. do not think that could possibly be the Windows Operating System .
[21:30] <wellick> Bashing-om: I ejected my external drive and typed that command again: https://pastebin.com/yVScvbdT
[21:31] <technochips> need help, when i try to record audio using my laptop microphone, it shows a very loud static noise. it did this since i installed ubuntu, twice. it got a dual boot and on windows the microphone works perfectly. tried to low the mic boost on alsamixer, it just made the static noise less loud.
[21:32] <arpit1294>      fuck
[21:33] <Bashing-om> wellick: Uh Huh, and only the single internal drive is now seen, This drive "Disk /dev/sda: 640GB" only contains a linux file system ( sda == Serial Device 1 - where a is 1 ) partitions are as sda1 sda2 sda5.
[21:35] <wellick> Bashing-om: it seems this problem I'm having is not uncommon. let me try some google fu.
[21:36] <Bashing-om> wellick: We remian here to help guide and assist .
[21:36] <wellick> of course. thank you.
[21:38] <Bashing-om> wellick: Gint, If bios does not see a 2nd hard drive . the system will not either . very likley a 2nd physical drive does not exist .
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Hint*
[21:40] <wellick> I«m pretty sure it's there. I was just moving files there 30 minutes ago. Only thing that changed was I intalled ubuntu and deleted windows 10
[21:41] <Bashing-om> wellick: " erase disk and install ubuntu" does just that . no more Windows with that install option .
[21:42] <wellick> yep. i'm fine with no windows for the moment.
[22:03] <Erick3k> any idea why ubuntu getting stuck at https://i.imgur.com/7flnrI9.png
[22:05] <zeroeax> I'm no expert, but based on the limited about of debugging output we have, it looks like one of your drives in a 3 drive 2 unique and one backup, failed, and it's trying to use the backup drives XOR results combined with the working drive to reverse the XOR and recreate the failed drives data
[22:06] <zeroeax> this is just a guess, and requires more information to verify or disprove, we need more than that screen shot
[22:07] <zeroeax> Can you get us full logs of the boot sequence, and maybe run SMART scans and filesystem checks on the drives if the logs don't point to something else?
[22:07] <zeroeax> Like I said, I'm no expert
[22:08] <zeroeax> I'm just an armature kenrel and hardware hacker with no experience running RAID on linux, but that's what those errors make me guess is the problem
[22:09] <Erick3k> hehe thanks
[22:09] <Erick3k> well is really complicated and am not sure whats going on
[22:09] <Erick3k> i create a vm from template, works
[22:09] <OerHeks> Erick3k, you might want to repost in #ubuntu-server too
[22:10] <Erick3k> turn of that vm, create a template from it, machine don't work
[22:10] <Erick3k> ok
[22:11] <zeroeax> It looks like it started doing something related to a raid error and is just continuing doing that without any progress output, but that screen shot isn't enough for me to try and verify that guess
[22:22] <adrian_1908> I have a question about "snaps". Can I create these as downloadable packages like Debian archives, or do they have to be registered with a central databased?
[22:22] <adrian_1908> *database
[22:26] <OerHeks> adrian_1908, you can build and publish on ubuntu store or git https://snapcraft.io/docs/build-snaps/publish
[22:27] <adrian_1908> thanks!
[22:29] <brother_Brewer> Newbie question. Has anyone else been having trouble getting their ethernet connection to open? I've checked cords on both ends, rebooted the router and the laptop with no success.
[22:30] <OerHeks> brother_Brewer, seen that only with windows10 + fastboot enabled, that prevented the use of networking & usb
[22:31] <OerHeks> else see if the device has a driver in use, 'ifconfig' would tell
[22:33] <JuPaname> sorry :x
[22:34] <DarkByD3sign> Evening all, anyone around to ask a security question.
[22:37] <Menzador> !ask | DarkByD3sign
[22:39] <DarkByD3sign> I've created a VPS from a well known cloud service. I've created my ssh key in putty gen and added it to the details on the cloud service so I can log in. Do I need to edit anything on the server side like in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[22:41] <Menzador> DarkByD3sign: I found a tutorial that might help: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-tunneling-on-a-vps
[22:42] <AssociateX> I have been trying to figure out why my laptop runs so slow. Programs are slow to start and close, everything is very laggy. Any help on where to start looking would be great.
[22:42] <DarkByD3sign> AssociateX, thank you, i'll check it out.
[22:43] <AssociateX> DarkByD3sign, you tagged the wrong person in your last comment.
[22:44] <DarkByD3sign> Ahaha oops.
[22:44] <DarkByD3sign> Menzador, thank you, i'll check it out.
[22:47] <Menzador> AssociateX: Run [ inxi -F | curl -F https://ptpb.pw?u=1 ] and paste the link
[22:47] <Menzador> err, not that
[22:47] <Menzador> AssociateX: Run [ inxi -F | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw?u=1 ] and paste the link
[22:47] <pheurton> .mode
[22:47] <cmecca_> hey all -- i'm finding that `apt-config dump` is not reflecting the settings im changing in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d files.  is there a way to 'refresh the running config' without a reboot; (some settings arent even reflected after a reboot actually) [14.04lts]
[22:48] <FXpro> how do you iinstall drivers via .sh script?
[22:48] <AssociateX> Menzador, I will have to install inxi, bbs.
[22:48] <Menzador> AssociateX: You're also going to need curl
[22:49] <AssociateX> Menzador, installing that also.
[22:50] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38661/how-do-i-run-sh-files
[22:51] <OerHeks> but installing drivers with a sh script are usuall untrusted. on ubuntu, that is.
[22:52] <AssociateX> Menzador, https://ptpb.pw/HX3q
[22:52] <cmecca_> - or is there a way to forcefully change the running configuration of apt
[22:54] <OerHeks> cmecca_, sudo apt update would
[22:55] <FXpro> the thing says "network service discovery disabled"
[22:55] <Menzador> AssociateX: Are you using any proprietary drivers?
[22:55] <cmecca_> OerHeks: cool ill try that - thanks
[22:55] <AssociateX> Menzador, this might be a little easier to read: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303178/
[22:55] <Menzador> Haha, yes that would
[22:55] <AssociateX> Menzador, for my HP printer I am for sure, I would have to look for anything else.
[22:56] <Menzador> AssociateX: Well, hplip is almost a necessity for HP printers
[22:56] <FXpro> "your current  network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the avahi network service discovery.  the service has been disabled"
[22:57] <AssociateX> Menzador, I agree
[22:58] <Menzador> AssociateX: Can you look at top and see what processes have negative levels of nice?
[22:58] <Menzador> (i.e., run [ top ]
[22:58] <Menzador> )
[22:59] <AssociateX> I have top running, let me look. While you're waiting check this out https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303197/
[23:00] <AssociateX> Menzador, there are a lot that are at -20, a few called kworker
[23:01] <AssociateX> Menzador, *kworker/0:0H
[23:02] <Menzador> AssociateX: Are you running KDE?
[23:02] <AssociateX> Menzador, yes
[23:02] <AssociateX> but I can run blackbox or flux if you would rather me.
[23:03] <Menzador> AssociateX: Start a Fluxbox session for me.
[23:03] <AssociateX> OK, bbs
[23:10] <AssociateX> I'm back.
[23:10] <AssociateX> Menzador, I'm back.
[23:12] <Menzador> AssociateX: Sorry I had to step away
[23:12] <Menzador> OK
[23:12] <Menzador> Now check top again
[23:12] <Menzador> AssociateX: ^
[23:12] <AssociateX> Menzador, kworker/0:0H kworker/1:0H and so on are all -20
[23:13] <Menzador> Hmmm.
[23:13] <AssociateX> Menzador, I don't need KDE in my life, I just like a lot of their apps.
[23:14] <Menzador> AssociateX: All isn't lost, join #kubuntu and see if they might be able to help.
[23:15] <AssociateX> Menzador, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303299/
[23:17] <Menzador> AssociateX: It looks like Google Chrome is what hates you
[23:17] <Menzador> Try another browser
[23:17] <AssociateX> Menzador, OK, like which one?
[23:17] <AssociateX> Menzador, or is there a way to fix that?
[23:17] <Menzador> AssociateX: At most Firefox, if not something that's basically a WebKit wrapper
[23:18] <Menzador> Well, Chrome is a giant kludge to begin with.
[23:18] <AssociateX> Menzador, well, I have opera installed already.
[23:19] <Menzador> AssociateX: Kill all instances of Chrome and see if Opera is better to you. It's Chromium-based so I can't promise anything
[23:31] <BenderRodriguez> This is driving crazy
[23:31] <BenderRodriguez> I have enabled the 8021q module and added the necessary config in /etc/network/interfaces file to enable ens3.20 interface (a vlan interface) to come up at boot time
[23:32] <BenderRodriguez> This works fine in one linux host and I can see the interface is coming up onlien just fine
[23:32] <BenderRodriguez> but on another machine, at boot up, the interface doesn't come up
[23:32] <BenderRodriguez> I have to manually run vconfig to add the vlan and restart the networking service to enable it
[23:32] <BenderRodriguez> Any ideas as to the cause?
[23:33] <snkcld> i have ubuntu installed on my laptop, and i want to install it on my usb drive. can i apt-get install the ubuntu installer program which is found on the live iso's to do this?
[23:34] <BenderRodriguez> snkcld: you can use dd to write the iso image directly onto the usb
[23:34] <BenderRodriguez> if that's what you're asking
[23:34] <BenderRodriguez> But any idea on my issue anyone? :(
[23:35] <snkcld> BenderRodriguez: yea i know, but i want to do the install like a regular install
[23:36] <Bashing-om> snkcld: "i want to install it on my usb drive" . How large is this drive ?
[23:36] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[23:36] <snkcld> BenderRodriguez: 16G
[23:36] <BenderRodriguez> just run it as a persistent live CD
[23:37] <BenderRodriguez> problem solved
[23:37] <snkcld> lol ok
[23:37] <snkcld> so... is the installer app not available to be installed, then?
[23:37] <snkcld> my question is not which method is best, but i do appreciate the extra info
[23:37] <snkcld> my question is, is that app something available in the repo, and whats its name?
[23:38] <Bashing-om> snkcld: 16 gigs will be real tight . Wont leave much to install anything else .
[23:38] <snkcld> Bashing-om: the install on my usb will only be used for maintenance on my laptop so i wont have to install anything large
[23:38] <BenderRodriguez> *shrugs*
[23:40] <snkcld> heh
[23:40] <snkcld> ill just use the debootstrap method
[23:40] <Bashing-om> snkcld: identify the USB device ' sudo fdisk -lu ' and from say a liveDVD ' wipe disk and install ubuntu"  onto the correct drive .
[23:44] <AssociateX> Menzador, do you see anything wrong here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24303412/
[23:45] <Menzador> AssociateX: Looks OK. Is your system still sluggish?
[23:46] <AssociateX> Menzador, not that I can tell yet. Just at log in at sddm.
[23:47] <Menzador> AssociateX: You mean you didn't start Opera yet?
[23:48] <AssociateX> Menzador, no, opera is running right now with 5 tabs open.
[23:48] <Menzador> AssociateX: Oh, so only SDDM felt laggy
[23:49] <Menzador> AssociateX: Have you tried with plain ol' Chromium? [ sudo apt install chromium-browser ]
[23:49] <AssociateX> Menzador, yeah, it is for sure. I type in my password, hit enter, and it just sits for the longest time, maybe 20 seconds before there appears to be any log in activity.
[23:50] <AssociateX> Menzador, I have not used chromium for a while.
[23:50] <Menzador> AssociateX: That's typical with loading KDE though.
[23:51] <AssociateX> Menzador, even while logging into flux or bb.
[23:51] <Menzador> I have ever achieved a loading time of less than 15 seconds on a hard disk with 2 GB or more of RAM.
[23:51] <Menzador> Well, yeah, SDDM in general is like that
[23:51] <AssociateX> Not load time, but rather starting to work time. It take almost 2 minutes to boot my computer to a desktop.
[23:55] <Menzador> brb