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lordievaderGood morning06:40
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BluesKajHowdy all11:06
acheronukcan anyone do copyrights? It's nonsense to me12:57
yofelwhich step is?13:00
bob_hi13:39
bob_I'm bumbling along - its been years since I used IRC and I'm having to learn all over again13:41
bob_I got here because I was interested in acting as a Kubuntu tester13:42
BluesKajHi bob_ well, this is the place :-)13:43
bob_Oh good :)13:44
bob_I have quite a few years experience using kubuntu13:44
BluesKajare you running 17.04 ?13:44
bob_but no coding skills 13:44
bob_yup I have a version of it ruunning right now I'm speking from it13:45
BluesKajcoding not needed for testing13:45
bob_I'm reasonably happy using the terminal13:45
bob_I also build my own pc's13:46
bob_I have occasionally reported a bug but generally I have been an ordinary user13:47
BluesKajI'm a tester and no very little about coding, just a little bit of scrpting13:47
bob_I have time to do some testing13:47
BluesKajno =know13:48
bob_yup no wot u mean13:48
BluesKajyeah we discourage texttalk here :-)13:48
BluesKajplain english works every time13:49
bob_I have done some simple scripting and recently struggled with the new systemd methods but I'm always ready to learn13:50
bob_I did encounter a problem that I think has been around for a while13:51
bob_a problem that causes the installation to lock up - it was there in 1604 and 161013:52
bob_i believe it is something to do with video drivers - once nvidias own from the repository are installed the lock ups cease13:53
bob_i thought it might have been sorted by now13:54
bob_what sort of testing is done and how does one get involved?13:55
bob_i need to ask to be added to the '!testers ubottu factoid' ?13:57
BluesKajbob_, do you mean the ubiquity crash ?14:02
acheronukyofel: the step of going from the licensecheck output to a properly formatted file14:03
acheronukyofel: and the step where I am supposed to care that this file exists in the 1st place14:04
yofelhm, I haven't done this lately and don't know the other helpers, but I did was roughly this:14:05
yofelIn-depth licensecheck scan, determine most used license, use this for the "Files: *" section, grep the licensecheck output for said linsense to get only the files where it's used, cut output to get file list, xargs that to grep "Copyright" in those files to get the holders14:09
yofelthen add a holder in debian/copyright with years collapsed into one line, go back to grep and 'grep -v <email>' to exclude the added user from the list, repeat until all people were added14:09
yofelthen go back to full filelist, grep -v <license> to get all other files, take next license, repeat above until done14:09
yofelwhich means I had to re-create the copyright file from scratch pretty much every time14:09
bob_BlesKaj, no the default nouveau video drivers interfere somehow and cause a system freeze14:09
bob_Sorry BluesKaj for name misspell14:10
yofelyou could theoretically get copyright updates by diffing the upstream source (e.g. in git) and filtering copyright changes from that14:10
yofelbut that requires a known-good state and I'm still not sure if that saves any time14:10
yofeldepends on the amount of changes14:11
BluesKajbob_, that's a new one I haven't seen. I have nvidia graphics, but I haven't encountered any freezes during the beta2 clean install to / .14:11
yofeland you always need to remember that licensecheck only works for the major copyright template texts. You need to look at every file where it's not sure about the license or reports UNKNOWN by hand14:12
bob_I got this freeze on install with the last few versions of Kubuntu14:12
yofelor you don't catch stuff like gfdl licensed docbooks, etc.14:13
bob_BluesKaj, there is a workaround that stops the nouveau drivers before the system starts up 14:14
BluesKajI haven't seen that freeze bob_ 14:16
acheronukyofel: :( yikes14:16
yofelwell, it's a bloody mess. (and one reason why we're always behind RPM distros as they just say "License: GPL-3" and are done)14:17
yofelbut that's the old-school way, I would *hope* that someone wrote a bunch of helpers by now?14:17
yofel(in the last 2 years or so)14:17
acheronukhttps://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools14:18
acheronuksome there (old?), but even then I don't really know how much to trust their output14:18
acheronukmost say to double check their output with licensecheck. lol14:19
bob_BluesKaj, I only encounter it when starting a new install14:21
BluesKajbob_, do you install to / and /home partitions ?14:23
bob_BluesKaj, yes I have my main system like that and have used that method for some time, although for this trial install of Zapy I left it all under /, 14:32
BluesKajbob_, this is the first I've heard of a nouveau freeze problem 14:39
bob_BluesKaj, I'm trying to find reference to it online14:44
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bob_BluesKaj, my notes are in my yak1610 install, I will find reference eventually online14:48
BluesKajbob_, ok 14:49
bob_BluesKaj, this link covers the problem, although connecting to a ppa to get nvidia drivers is unneccesary15:11
bob_http://askubuntu.com/questions/696671/15-10-system-install-hang15:13
bob_That is exactly the bug I have experienced15:16
bob_BluesKaj, this also is related to the same issue https://superuser.com/questions/1070307/ubuntu-16-04-freezes-on-loading-installation-from-bootable-usb15:19
BluesKajahh, the optimus dual gpu hybrid graphics , that kind of an atypical setup and it's defeating the nvidia gpu in order to select boot with the  intel gpu..this is not the case with single gpu onboard setups IME. Alsp the UEFI/BIOS PCI gpu needs to be selected instead of the onboard in cases where users add anew graphics PCI card to their computers15:20
bob_BluesKaj, I'm only using one graphics card - an nvidia - although the motherboard is provisioned for dual15:25
BluesKajbob_, is the nvidia a PCI card?15:26
bob_also no intel onboard - only amd15:26
bob_BluesKaj, yes, it is15:27
BluesKajand it's the primary so to speak chosen in the UEFI/BIOS ?15:27
bob_BluesKaj, it has to be its the only card, there is no onboard graphics15:28
BluesKajreally?15:30
bob_BluesKaj, indeed15:32
BluesKajok you bought a board with no gpu15:32
bob_BluesKaj, I bought an Asus m/board, an amd processor, a graphics card, a case, etc etc and put them together15:34
BluesKajright15:34
bob_I've been making my PC's up like that for more than 20 years15:35
bob_Blueskaj, been making them up more like 30 yesr actually15:36
bob_BlesKaj. yesr = years15:36
bob_BuesKaj - brb - a bread machine needs looking at :)15:38
bob_BluesKaj, the bread smells good15:44
* BluesKaj nods15:46
BluesKajwhich driver does your nvidia gpu use, bob_ ?16:01
bob_the latest recommended one from the ubuntu repositories16:04
bob_BluesKaj, the latest recommended from the ubuntu repositories16:06
bob_BluesKaj, 375.39 from nvidia-37516:07
bob_BluesKaj, its the default nouveau driver that my system doesn't like16:08
bob_BluesKag, btw the card is an nvidia GeForceGTX66016:10
BluesKajbob_,right, I'm no gamer so i use an entry level 8400GS for this media server pc. It works very well for our needs 16:14
bob_BluesKaj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/1217585 - a bug report this time16:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1217585 in Nouveau Xorg driver "System hangs after some time with nouveau and GT240" [Medium,Confirmed]16:16
bob_BluesKaj, oh what happened then?16:17
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BluesKaj!nvidia16:22
ubottuFor nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing »16:22
BluesKajbob_, this is what our infobot does 16:23
BluesKajas an example16:23
bob_BluesKaj, I see, thankyou, I am learning16:24
bobbicathi BluesKaj, I was bob_ :)19:44
BluesKajhey bobbicat :-)19:45
clivejois the kubuntu driver manager still a problem in default install of zesty?20:51
acheronukhard to test, as my zesty is anything but default now21:15
acheronukhmmm.... xserver-xorg may update from 1.18.4 to 1.19.3 later if that last blocker rebuilds ok 21:18
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