| === Schnabeltierche- is now known as Schnabeltierchen | ||
| rest | hello | 18:20 |
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| wxl | howdy | 18:20 |
| rest | not gud :( | 18:21 |
| wxl | ? | 18:21 |
| rest | i have this old computer with like 1.5 ram etc , was thinking of puting a light OS like lubu but cant install them. says: ERROR no conf file found no default or UI conf directive found | 18:22 |
| wxl | and where do you see that? | 18:22 |
| rest | i inserted usb | 18:22 |
| rest | made it thru universal usb installation | 18:23 |
| wxl | universal usb installation? is that a windows thing? | 18:23 |
| rest | this one i see is for everything but i also made it via unetbootin | 18:23 |
| rest | which is specific for linux | 18:23 |
| rest | they both give me this error | 18:24 |
| rest | internet says i have to rename 2 files | 18:24 |
| rest | from isolinux to syslinux. did that but still error | 18:24 |
| wxl | what linux are you doing this on? | 18:24 |
| rest | my old computer has some corrupted windows in so i wanted to format it and install something | 18:25 |
| wxl | what are you running unetbootin on? | 18:25 |
| rest | on windows | 18:25 |
| rest | my main pc | 18:25 |
| wxl | can't help you with windows, unfortunately | 18:25 |
| rest | downloaded lubuntu from official site | 18:25 |
| rest | 16.04 | 18:25 |
| wxl | maybe i'm misunderstanding something | 18:26 |
| wxl | at which point do you see these error(s)? | 18:26 |
| rest | i DL lubuntu, inserted it in usb , made it bootable, then i insert my usb to my old computer to install it there | 18:27 |
| rest | bios boot | 18:27 |
| rest | i tell it to boot from usb | 18:27 |
| rest | then this error | 18:27 |
| wxl | does it load linux at all or immediately show this error? | 18:28 |
| rest | it shows this error , when i think it should show the installation | 18:28 |
| wxl | that's not what i asked | 18:28 |
| rest | (im not familiar with linux sorry) | 18:29 |
| wxl | do you see any other text or images? ANYTHING else? or it immediately shows that? | 18:29 |
| rest | nothing , this error shows up at right after the initial beep sound computer makes, when it says like press DEL to enter bios etc | 18:30 |
| rest | loads few POST infos | 18:30 |
| rest | then this | 18:30 |
| wxl | where did you download from? | 18:31 |
| rest | http://lubuntu.net/ | 18:31 |
| wxl | that's not the website | 18:33 |
| wxl | lubuntu.me is. | 18:34 |
| wxl | so you downloaded it with http or did you use torrent, zsync, or something else? | 18:34 |
| rest | torrent | 18:36 |
| wxl | well that's good. so the hash should check out automatically. | 18:36 |
| wxl | *MIGHT* want to doublecheck just for sanity's sake, but it should work | 18:36 |
| wxl | assuming that site points at the right place | 18:36 |
| rest | this is the error | 18:36 |
| rest | http://imgur.com/a/x9NXx | 18:37 |
| wxl | looks like it points to cdimage.ubuntu.com, so that's good | 18:37 |
| rest | so we guess that the iso is legit? | 18:37 |
| wxl | probably | 18:37 |
| wxl | but you should check the hashes | 18:37 |
| rest | did u see the error on the link? | 18:38 |
| wxl | yeah you're not even getting to GRUB, so that's pretty bad | 18:38 |
| rest | should i try other version of linux? | 18:38 |
| wxl | before i head too far down the rabbit hole, please check the hash of that iso with md5 | 18:38 |
| wxl | i assume this is the i386 version? | 18:39 |
| wxl | 28121631f45c1413cb41daeb693cc927 *lubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso | 18:39 |
| wxl | there's your md5 | 18:39 |
| rest | yes | 18:41 |
| rest | that does this means | 18:41 |
| rest | what* | 18:41 |
| wxl | !md5 | 18:41 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 18:41 |
| wxl | if that succeeds, i would try other methods. i usually use dd. it's a little more advanced but it never fails. | 18:42 |
| rest | they are the same | 18:53 |
| wxl | ok, so try a different method to get it on the usb | 18:54 |
| rest | before that im thinking of trying a windows xp sp3 LITE | 18:54 |
| rest | because my parents maybe cant handle linux | 18:54 |
| wxl | if you don't have it connected to the internet, that sounds like it would work, but linux isn't really that complicated from a UI perspective | 18:57 |
| rest | the usb is rdy im trying this now jsut in case. | 18:57 |
| rest | my parents only want like facebook,skype,youtube some googling | 18:57 |
| rest | that stuff | 18:57 |
| rest | lubu will provide stuff like that without needing me every now and then? | 18:58 |
| rest | like updating, fixing, terminal etc | 18:58 |
| wxl | xp is unsupported | 18:59 |
| wxl | and full of security issues | 18:59 |
| wxl | once you have it set up, it should Just Work⢠| 19:00 |
| wxl | (linux that is) | 19:00 |
| wxl | i will say there have been some rumblings about removing support for i386, but that's not anything that's going to happen immediately | 19:00 |
| rest | i heard that to make skype work with camera i have to search for drivers etc | 19:01 |
| rest | and many drivers for various stuff | 19:01 |
| wxl | it depends | 19:02 |
| wxl | some things are well supported right out of the box | 19:02 |
| rest | ur method of inserting it in usb | 19:03 |
| wxl | you have to remember that manufacturers have had a commercial motivation to ensure that their stuff works with windows and vice versa. linux, being free, and not having a vast amount of market share, doesn't have that same motivation | 19:03 |
| wxl | i mean, for that matter, try running apple os x on a non-apple machine. all i'll say is good freaking luck! | 19:03 |
| wxl | but once you have these things set up there should be no problem | 19:03 |
| wxl | "no problem" | 19:03 |
| rest | :P | 19:04 |
| wxl | if you think it's going to be bug free, you got another thing coming. there's no such thing as an operating system without bugs | 19:04 |
| rest | i guess | 19:04 |
| wxl | good luck getting microsoft developers to pay attention to your random piece of hardware that hasn't been sold in 20 years | 19:05 |
| rest | it doesnt work | 19:07 |
| rest | i think | 19:07 |
| wxl | "it" is ambigious | 19:07 |
| rest | that my HDD is failing | 19:07 |
| wxl | your HDD is not involved in booting the live system on the USB | 19:08 |
| rest | it says | 19:08 |
| rest | the boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible | 19:08 |
| rest | status 0xc000000f | 19:08 |
| wxl | it now says something DIFFERENT? | 19:09 |
| rest | it shows this when im trying to boot usb with windows | 19:09 |
| * lopta is downloading Lubuntu 16.10. | 19:09 | |
| rest | windows failed to start, a recent HW or SW change might be cause | 19:09 |
| lopta | Oh wait, 16.04, apparently. | 19:09 |
| rest | 1 insert ur win blablabla | 19:09 |
| wxl | maybe it's a bad usb. | 19:09 |
| wxl | or a bad usb port | 19:09 |
| wxl | those things happeen, to | 19:09 |
| rest | i tried 2 usbs | 19:10 |
| rest | 3 version of windows | 19:10 |
| rest | all this error, i tried once with lubuntu | 19:10 |
| rest | 1 error i told u earlier | 19:10 |
| wxl | did you change usb ports? | 19:10 |
| * wxl shrugs | 19:10 | |
| rest | y swaped 2 ports i still have 1-2 more i havent tried | 19:11 |
| lopta | Does the .iso file work with USB flash or just when burned to a DVD? | 19:11 |
| wxl | all i know is that dd has been completely reliable for me | 19:11 |
| wxl | lopta: both | 19:11 |
| lopta | wxl: Great! Thanks. | 19:11 |
| wxl | other methods, including unetbootin, have given me mixed results | 19:11 |
| rest | what dd stands for | 19:11 |
| wxl | lopta: np. enjoy :) | 19:11 |
| wxl | !dd | rest | 19:11 |
| wxl | darnit :( | 19:11 |
| wxl | i thought i made a factoid for dd | 19:11 |
| wxl | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29 | 19:11 |
| lopta | wxl: I did have a disc at one point. Probably for an older version though. | 19:12 |
| rest | will that other method take long? | 19:14 |
| wxl | nope | 19:14 |
| wxl | you know, rest, you could buy installation media that's guaranteed to work. https://www.osdisc.com/products/lubuntu | 19:16 |
| lopta | Does the Lubuntu project get a cut from those sales? | 19:17 |
| lopta | I hope they do. | 19:17 |
| wxl | nope | 19:17 |
| wxl | that would be nice :) | 19:17 |
| rest | and now a silly q | 19:18 |
| rest | usb from mobo | 19:18 |
| lopta | There are no silly questions, only silly users ;-) | 19:18 |
| rest | hmm | 19:18 |
| rest | i lost my thoughts | 19:18 |
| wxl | you better go look for them | 19:18 |
| lopta | Volatile memory is volatile. | 19:18 |
| rest | usb port from mobo work without need of connecting small cables | 19:19 |
| rest | like from case | 19:19 |
| lopta | rest: That's not a question. | 19:19 |
| rest | ... | 19:20 |
| lopta | Are you asking whether you can connect a USB device directly to the USB header on a mainboard? | 19:21 |
| rest | so wxl are you up for that solution? | 19:21 |
| wxl | rest: i have no idea what you're asking or if you're asking something. | 19:21 |
| * lopta accidentally asks to ask. | 19:22 | |
| wxl | !ask | lopta | 19:22 |
| ubottu | lopta: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 19:22 |
| wxl | XD | 19:22 |
| lopta | :-) | 19:22 |
| lopta | Ah, I see you were expecting me! :-D | 19:22 |
| rest | you said earlier that we could try another way of making the usb bootable with the iso | 19:22 |
| wxl | you have the following possible problems: | 19:23 |
| wxl | 1. usb itself is bad | 19:23 |
| wxl | 2. usb port(s) bad | 19:23 |
| wxl | 3. method to put the iso on the usb is bad | 19:23 |
| wxl | so you can try different usbs, both in the same port and in other ports | 19:24 |
| wxl | failing that, you can try using dd as i said before | 19:24 |
| wxl | OR if you want the easy button, go buy a usb :) | 19:24 |
| * lopta buys a USB Easy Button | 19:26 | |
| rest | usb is fine, the port also | 19:28 |
| rest | right now i did a test i removed hdd | 19:28 |
| rest | and computer starts fine | 19:28 |
| rest | via usb but it stuck at windows 10 logo | 19:28 |
| lopta | I hope to try Lubuntu today on a very old laptop | 19:29 |
| rest | lubu can be tried via usb without the need of hdd right? | 19:29 |
| rest | i could try that | 19:29 |
| wxl | yep, rest | 19:29 |
| wxl | if you have 10, you likely have EFI, so you'll have to tweak the BIOS to allow legacy booting from the USB | 19:30 |
| rest | at which point a computer can reach without hdd | 19:30 |
| rest | only bios ? | 19:30 |
| wxl | not sure i understand that question | 19:31 |
| wxl | what i can tell you is that the iso puts the entire os AND required storage in memory, so the HDD is not used | 19:31 |
| lopta | rest: No, you should be able to get to a desktop, given the right USB image. | 19:31 |
| wxl | you do need to have memory though XD | 19:31 |
| rest | if i turn on my computer without hdd / without usb | 19:31 |
| wxl | then it will do nothing | 19:32 |
| rest | it can reach only POST screen | 19:32 |
| rest | and auto resets | 19:32 |
| lopta | rest: Who made the PC? | 19:32 |
| lopta | rest: Have you tried pressing F12 about a second after pressing the power button? | 19:33 |
| rest | lubu works on fat32 or ntfs? | 19:35 |
| wxl | usually you want it on fat | 19:35 |
| rest | im giving another shot on this | 19:36 |
| rest | i removed hdd and a usb mouse i had | 19:36 |
| rest | do u think the mouse could conflict somehow? | 19:36 |
| wxl | no | 19:37 |
| lopta | Only four minutes left... | 19:38 |
| rest | on what rig are you going to install it lopta? | 19:38 |
| lopta | rest: What did you use to dump the image to a USB flash drive? | 19:38 |
| lopta | rest: Dell Inspiron 1100 | 19:39 |
| wxl | ^^ that | 19:39 |
| rest | i have 2 installers one called Universal USB instaler and the other unetbootin | 19:39 |
| lopta | Woohoo! My .iso file has arrived. | 19:42 |
| wxl | i've heard some people mention this but ymmv it's not supported http://rufus.akeo.ie/ | 19:43 |
| lopta | I'm on NetBSD, so I'm going to try "dd if=lubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/rsd0d bs=16384 progress=723" | 19:44 |
| wxl | there you go. dd rules. | 19:44 |
| lopta | It's my weapon of choice. | 19:45 |
| wxl | NetBSD? uhh are you sure you want to switch to Lubuntu? XD | 19:45 |
| lopta | wxl: Nope ;-) | 19:46 |
| wxl | i mean bsd ain't all that for the desktop experience, but generally if you've been using bsd, you probably don't care all that much :) | 19:46 |
| lopta | wxl: ...but I have to try it because ...of reasons. ;-) | 19:47 |
| wxl | i seeeeee | 19:47 |
| lopta | 947912704 bytes transferred in 204.927 secs (4625611 bytes/sec) | 19:48 |
| lopta | Yay, it boots! | 19:49 |
| wxl | XD | 19:49 |
| lopta | dd ftw | 19:50 |
| wxl | word | 19:50 |
| rest | where u guys from? | 19:53 |
| wxl | cascadia | 19:53 |
| rest | me greece | 19:54 |
| wxl | i'd love to go there | 19:55 |
| lopta | brb, coffee | 19:55 |
| rest | its cool for vacations | 19:56 |
| rest | but for living u need to have a decent and secure job | 19:56 |
| lopta | rest: I'm not from Illinois, USA but that's where I live now. | 19:59 |
| lopta | brb | 19:59 |
| lopta | rest: Do you have access to another Linux or unix system? | 20:11 |
| lopta | Is Cascadia in Oregon? | 20:23 |
| wxl | well, oregon's in cascadia | 20:23 |
| lopta | Oh. | 20:24 |
| lopta | I know some people in Oregon | 20:25 |
| wxl | i do too :) | 20:26 |
| rest | guys nice to meet u | 20:26 |
| rest | i hv to go, thank u for supporting me, gl and bb | 20:27 |
| lopta | Is it really just 2.75 GB installed?! | 21:07 |
| MeXTuX | I have been experiencing a bug on Lubuntu 16.04. When I lock screen sometimes I move the mouse and the login screen doesn't show. I only see a black screen. It does not happen all the time but I would like to know if I can check a log or something to see what is going on. When that happens I press Ctrl Alt F1 and reboot the computer. Thanks in adva | 21:30 |
| MeXTuX | nce | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | MeXTuX: What graphics card do you have? | 21:31 |
| MeXTuX | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09) | 21:32 |
| MeXTuX | Here there are more details http://paste.ubuntu.com/24308851/ | 21:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Hmmm | 21:35 |
| tsimonq2 | MeXTuX: You might want to ask in #ubuntu, and if they send you back here, give me another ping. ;) | 21:35 |
| lynorian | MeXTuX, you do not need to rebbot the computer you can just restart lightdm but you still lose your work that way | 22:22 |
| chatter29 | hey guys | 23:05 |
| chatter29 | allah is doing | 23:05 |
| krytarik | Hi chatter29. | 23:05 |
| krytarik | \o/ | 23:05 |
| chatter29 | sun is not doing allah is doing | 23:05 |
| chatter29 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger | 23:05 |
| Unit193 | chatter29: I thought we had a discussion last night. | 23:05 |
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