[04:30] <Bashing-om> done - nite nite all
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> working day guys, have a nice one!
[06:41] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:42] <ducasse> morning all
[08:12] <pavlushka> Good Morning ducasse lordievader
[08:14] <ikevin> morning pavlushka
[08:14] <ducasse> \o
[08:19] <lordievader> Hey pavlushka, ikevin, ducasse
[08:19] <lordievader> How are you all?
[08:20] <ikevin> hey lordievader
[08:20] <ikevin> all good here and you?
[08:20] <lordievader> Doing good, got coffee?
[08:20] <lordievader> :)*
[08:20] <ducasse> hi lordievader, good thanks. what's up in your part of the world?
[08:20] <daftykins> morn \o
[08:21] <lordievader> ducasse: Work ;)
[08:21] <ikevin> oh yes, coffee is needed on monday morning :)
[08:21] <lordievader> Hey daftykins
[08:21] <ducasse> \o daftykins
[08:21] <daftykins> i've just booked a short overnight trip to Glasgow to see a band :D
[08:21] <daftykins> this is exciting
[08:21] <daftykins> i've never been up north before :P
[08:22] <ducasse> cool, what band?
[08:22] <daftykins> The Cranberries
[08:22] <ducasse> long time since i heard any of their stuff
[08:22] <lordievader> They are still active?
[08:22] <lordievader> Wow
[08:23] <daftykins> i know right :D
[08:23] <daftykins> seems they've turned some of their classics into more ochestral things with string quartet backing
[08:23] <daftykins> could be a neat spin :>
[08:24] <daftykins> wasn't cheap to get off the island mind you
[08:24] <ducasse> could be interesting :) when is this?
[08:25] <daftykins> end of May
[08:25] <daftykins> i don't know anyone that's a fan so i'm just going alone so far :>
[08:28] <ducasse> daftykins: out of curiosity, what's the best live performance you've seen?
[08:29] <daftykins> i've only ever been to Explosions in the Sky in Brighton many moons ago
[08:29] <daftykins> lots of local non-famous stuff though
[08:29] <ducasse> i must have been to well over 200 concerts in total
[08:29] <daftykins> :o
[08:32] <ducasse> lots of friends who worked in the music scene in oslo, so i got free tickets etc :)
[08:35] <daftykins> oh very nice!
[08:37] <ducasse> certainly came in handy :) it's been years since i lived in oslo, so i don't see many concerts any more.
[08:41] <daftykins> too pricey to stay central is it?
[08:42] <ducasse> yes, but more other strong reasons i rather not get into in a publicly logged channel :)
[08:51] <daftykins> :>
[09:07] <pavlushka> Morning ikevin :)
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:07] <daftykins> \o wb
[11:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning daftykins
[11:08] <daftykins> all well with yourself?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> yes, fine here, and you ?
[11:09] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj :)
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse
[11:09] <daftykins> yep ticking along thanks!
[11:10] <BluesKaj> good to hear daftykins , and how about you ducasse?
[11:12] <daftykins> oh he might have just put his head down for a nap if he doesn't reply
[11:12] <ducasse> BluesKaj: good, thanks, just a little tired :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> We had a big time with guest musicians on fri night ...still feeling the effects :-)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> jam
[11:17] <BluesKaj> too old to handle it ....need some self discipline
[11:19] <BluesKaj> in other words I deank too much
[11:19] <BluesKaj> drank
[11:20] <daftykins> hehehe
[11:20] <daftykins> BluesKaj: i was telling ducasse that on a whim i booked to go and see a band, The Cranberries, up in Scotland at the end of May! very exciting
[11:21]  * BluesKaj puts the urge to self destruct away for another 2 weeks
[11:22] <BluesKaj> The Cranberries..yes, haven't heard about them in quite a while ... excellent, good to hear they're still active
[11:24] <daftykins> mmm they did put out another album in 2012, but i don't think it shattered any records
[11:25] <ducasse> oh man. i lost a contact lens, and the cleaning solution hurts like a b***h for a few minutes after you put it back in :-/
[11:25] <ducasse> i look like a close relative died.
[11:25] <daftykins> :(
[11:25] <daftykins> anyone but the kitty!
[11:26] <ducasse> oh, she's fine :) she's soooo happy spring is here, she's taken up her favorite spot i made for her on the porch.
[11:26] <daftykins> :D
[11:26] <daftykins> Mischief is currently to the left of me, sat in the sun spot from the window
[11:27] <ducasse> put a couple of pillows on a chair, she sleeps there all day long :)
[11:27] <daftykins> d'aww that sounds like heaven
[13:41] <BluesKaj> well, that was an exercise in futility, when did pulseaudio become a Unity Desktop dependency ?
[13:45] <ducasse> maybe to support bluetooth audio stuff?
[13:47] <acheron-a> why? did you delete it?
[13:47] <acheron-a> i see pulseadio is running as a service
[13:48] <acheron-a> i process i mean
[13:48] <ducasse> he was helping a guy where pulse might have been causing problems
[13:48] <acheron-a> ahh
[13:49] <acheron-a> i know for some sound / hardware configs, it can be confusing to linux
[13:51] <acheron-a> like this computer here has 4 audio outputs, line, display port 1, display port 2 and HDMI
[13:51] <BluesKaj> pulse is literally blocking some of his options, altho he has an unusual audio configuration ..read alienware :/
[13:52] <daftykins> ruh roh
[13:52] <acheron-a> yeah, and then with alsamixer, you have to go in and adjust it every time you boot i wish there was some way to make those changes persistent because pulse audio seems to over ride them
[13:55] <BluesKaj> acheron-a, in ubuntu one can solidify alsa settings to some degree in /etc/modprobe.d/asla-base.conf
[13:55] <acheron-a> fortunate for this system, ubuntu handles it well and just presents the line output
[13:58] <BluesKaj> right, ordinary audio HW is handled quite well by alsa and PA
[13:59] <BluesKaj> exotic audio chips aren't well served in linux ...even windows has difficulties with them
[13:59] <acheron-a> ture
[14:00] <acheron-a> true i mean
[14:01] <daftykins> can't think of anyone who uses anything beyond onboard :>
[14:02] <daftykins> well, sometimes you get folks with those external DAC things
[14:15] <BluesKaj> I have a m-audio pci that was using for a while, but it became too complex due the inability to blacklist the onboard audio
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I haven't tried it for some time , maybe i can configure a workaround
[14:41] <lordievader> daftykins: External DACs are lovely :D
[14:41] <lordievader> BluesKaj: If you use PA you can simply disable one of the two soundcards.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes, but I don't use pulse
[14:44] <BluesKaj> you guys on ubuntu unity  are dependent on it, which i was surprised to learn this morning ...Poettering really has his clwas into Ubuntu/Unity
[14:44] <BluesKaj> claws even
[14:44] <lordievader> Kmixer is also adopting more and more features of Pulseaudio.
[14:44] <lordievader> Quite nice, imo.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> anyway, icould probly work something , but my audio setup is working fien on the intel audio setup onboard
[14:45] <daftykins> i'm sure someone recently said something about lubuntu breaking due to missing a dependancy on PA too - could be my memory though
[14:46] <lordievader> I found out today I could use my vpn and pulseaudio to stream audio to my home speakers from anywhere I am.
[14:46] <OerHeks> that was firefox
[14:46] <lordievader> Not quite usefull, but funy to see.
[14:48] <daftykins> heh yeah the remote sound thing was the only point articles could ever come up with as to pluses to PA
[14:48] <ducasse> sounds like a lot of the newer desktop stuff, 'not useful, but funny' ;)
[14:48] <daftykins> wobble those windows whilst you stream audio to another room!
[14:48] <lordievader> The reasoning of Firefox was quite logical on that actually.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> this audio setup is for my media server connected to my home theater setup so the less complex I can make it the better
[14:49] <daftykins> OerHeks: ah yeah! :>
[14:52] <lordievader> Ah, this was the discussion I was looking for, the rationale behind the decision: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/jRAqSTri66I
[14:52] <BluesKaj> but as a media player once setup Kodi decodes all the latest movie codecs like E-AC3/Dolby Digital very nicely. I appreciate the work that's gone into it
[14:54] <ducasse> this Dreaman character doesn't seem to want to go quietly into that good night...
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Dreaman?
[15:00] <ducasse> that guy who now and then has been throwing out irrelevant or wrong advice in the middle of discussions etc. k1l finally banned him half an hour ago, now he's connecting from various anon proxys and trolling him.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ducasse, he's in debian and linux chats , but not active atm
[15:08] <ducasse> seems he gave up in #ubuntu at last, must have run out of endpoints :)
[15:24] <acheron-a> that guy is just trolling
[18:20] <Bashing-om> OK, set now to have some fun - see what I can learn this day :)
[18:27] <ducasse> hiya Bashing-om - how have you been?
[18:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Staying busy . one way or the other .. my world is bright ! Yours ?
[18:37] <ducasse> the same, finished some translations recently, other than that not much :)
[18:39] <Bashing-om> Spring is comming on here .. and I am behind with grooming the lawn :( But I will get to it - I promise .
[18:40] <ducasse> luna (my cat) is super happy about the whole spring business, spends her entire days outside on the porch lying on a pillow in a chair :)
[18:45] <Bashing-om> Cats, we have our share - set the parakeets down and left unattended . Ebony knocked over the cage and got one of them . Sad, - on the to-do list to replace that pretty .
[18:46] <acheron-a> hello everyone
[18:47] <Bashing-om> good day acheron-a .
[19:03] <nacc> ducasse: funny, we have a dog named luna :)
[19:04] <nicomachus> I have a cat named Luna!
[19:04] <nacc> awesome :)
[19:05] <ducasse> common name, it seems :) she was named luna when i got her from the shelter, so i didn't want to change it.
[19:06] <nicomachus> ours was like... mocha or latte or something. We changed it to Luna.
[19:07] <nacc> ours was rogue
[19:07] <nicomachus> now it's really bothering me that I can't remember her original name.
[19:07] <nacc> heh
[19:08] <nicomachus> it was something coffee-related, I think
[19:08] <nicomachus> she's all black.
[19:09] <ducasse> i should have changed her name to 'grey, furry eating and sleeping machine'
[19:09] <nicomachus> lol
[19:09] <Bashing-om> our Black female cat's name is Ebony :P
[19:09] <ducasse> she's staring me down right now, hoping for a few treats - she knows i give in easily :)
[19:45] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: what plugins don't work on Chromium? They should all work the same.
[19:46] <nicomachus> ducasse: mine do that to me every morning, and every night when I get home from work. even if my girlfriend just gave them some.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> flash mostly
[19:46] <nicomachus> oh.
[19:46] <nicomachus> I don't need flash for anything anymore, but I do keep Chrome around just for that.
[19:46] <nicomachus> And for Netflix because DRM stuff, but netflix works on FF now
[19:48] <BluesKaj> nicomachus:  I used to use FF as my default , but since it's changed it's direction I've decided that chrome suits my needs better
[19:50] <ducasse> i use ff on the desktop and chromium on the laptop, although i'm no longer entirely sure why. it's just the way things are now.
[19:50] <ducasse> i'm sure there is a _very_ good reason. ;)
[19:50] <BluesKaj> I seldom use netflix, tried it a couple of times , but their movie selection doesn't appeal to an old fogie like me
[19:50] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: I find that chromium runs faster on my system than FF . I went back to chromium from google-chrome .
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om:  never really noticed, but chrome runs much faster than FF and it works
[19:53] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: My work flow promotes me to chromium . I am just that much more comforable .
[19:54] <BluesKaj> well, I'm a n ordinary home user , no workflow to worry about here