=== JanC_ is now known as JanC === jjb is now known as oao === oao is now known as jjb === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:35] Hi all, Was wondering if the crashof unity-8 when closing apps on vivid Ubuntu-touch was likely to be fixed. I believe it must have been fixed upstream but it's quite frustrating to see unity 8 reboot quite often on the phone. i am asking that because if there is no plan for the foreseeable future i might finally switch to the droid. [14:36] BTW the crash happens more easily with the browser app and a video running. [14:48] taiebot, I'm afraid not, we've stopped doing any work on vivid, other than any critical security updates [14:48] sorry I don't have better news [14:49] saviq: it's ok my phone is old (still using Nexus 4) i feel more for all the developers. So much work went into those phones. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === boiko_ is now known as boiko === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:24] tedg, in Manager::focusRequest, why do you need an answer? [19:27] dandrader: We don't yet, but eventually we'll allow unity to reject it. [19:27] I imagine some sort of focus mode or something. [19:27] tedg, and what would be the difference in UAL's perpective if shell accepted or rejected? focus is a concept that lives inside shell [19:28] dandrader: We're return error to the caller. [19:28] We'd [19:28] dandrader: So that happen on launch() if the app is already running. [19:28] happens...wow. [19:29] * tedg checks if Google translate can help here [19:29] ? [19:29] Bad Typer -> English [19:30] I really think XMir is dropping keystrokes, but I can't really prove it isn't me. [19:30] oh, you're really dogfooding :) [19:31] Haha, I've used Unity8 for months :-) [19:31] Somedays are better than others. [19:31] Having the shadow on the windows back today is really awesome though. Missed that. [19:37] tedg, I think it's really odd to get the reponse to a focus request thorugh ual. the real response will be received when the applications' mir window receives focus [19:37] *through [19:38] dandrader: Sure, but this case isn't an app requesting. It's like someone sending a URL to URL Dispatcher and getting an error there. [19:38] dandrader: Apps themselves don't use UAL. [19:38] hmm [19:38] Different kind of focus request really. It's a "change application" request by the system. [19:39] hi guys, is this autopkg test failure known or is it something new: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial-ci-train-ppa-service-2629/xenial/i386/u/unity8/20170403_185700_c0929@/log.gz ? [19:43] tedg, any side-effects on Manager::resumeRequest response? [19:44] tedg, it will only resume when shell calss Instance::resume anyway, right? [19:44] *calls [19:44] dandrader: So right now the code will just assume Unity doesn't know what it's talking about and timeout. But the goal is to make it so that Unity8 controls those items. [19:44] dandrader: I would say that you should return true unless you have a reason to object, and then we'll start making it more powerful. [19:45] tedg, but an instance only gets resumed when untiy8 calls Instance::resume(), right? [19:46] dandrader: In practice yes, though there's no technical limitation on who could call that. [19:46] tedg, what I mean is that returning true on Manager::resumeRequest won't by itself cause an instance to be resumed, right? [19:50] dandrader: Corret [19:50] Correct [19:50] Okay, now I am tryng to type slow. Nope still missed a couple characters. === JanC is now known as Guest6267 === JanC_ is now known as JanC