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willcookemorning all07:59
didrocksgood morning willcooke!08:02
Laneyahoy08:03
Laneycouldn't find my laptop just then /o\08:03
willcookehey Laney didrocks08:03
didrockshey hey Laney!08:04
Laneyhey willcooke hey didrocks!08:08
Laneywhat's new08:08
Laneyjbicha: please commit that gtk-doc fix to debian08:09
didrocksnothing much, writing some tests today :)08:09
didrocksyou?08:09
Laneyhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm08:13
Laneyno nothing at all!08:14
seb128good morning desktopers08:17
willcookemorning seb12808:17
flexiondotorgMorning all08:18
seb128sorry a bit late, we have workers here to fix our shower which is leaking (not an easy fix unfortunatelly, they need to remove the glass panels, redrill the wall, etc)08:19
seb128they arrived just as I was about to start IRC08:19
seb128hey willcooke flexiondotorg Laney, how is u.k today?08:19
* flexiondotorg opens the curtains08:19
Laneynot still bathroom problems?!?08:19
Laneyhi seb128 & flexiondotorg!08:19
flexiondotorgGrey08:19
seb128Laney, yeah, there was a structural error made with the shower and there is no workaround patch that is working08:20
seb128so we get it properly fixed now08:20
seb128which is basically removing the panels, filling the drill gaps in the wall, moving the panel, doing new drills, redoing some tiling and then putting the panel back08:22
Laneyannoying08:23
Laneyhope you don't have to do any decorating to fix that and that it works!08:23
seb128should be good but let's see08:24
Trevinhoseb128: hey10:10
Trevinhoseb128: you should check https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-control-center/unity-lowgfx-support/+merge/32182710:10
Trevinhoandyrock: unity side, when you want https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/lowgfx-profile-setter/+merge/32183410:16
Trevinhohikiko: both ^10:46
andyrockTrevinho: i'll take a look11:17
hikiko+I ll look at it later11:17
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bregmahey desktoppers can anyone tell me where the ubuntu-desktop comes from? Is it simply germinated from a Ubuntu seed?11:45
flexiondotorgbregma, Yes it is.11:45
Laneylp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.zesty11:45
bregmaswell, thanks11:45
flexiondotorgbregma Also, love your work in the Phoronix comments ;-)11:46
bregmait's a weird hobby11:46
ograyeah11:46
flexiondotorgMade my morning coffee that much more enjoyable.11:46
flexiondotorgI made popcorn.11:46
ogralol11:46
bregmaI read phoronix the way people go to bars to pick fights11:47
bregmaanyway, my next question is if anyone (seb128 maybe) is working to create a Unity 8 desktop meta-package from the seeds in the same way as unity-desktop11:50
Laneycan't say for sure, but I doubt it12:11
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jbichaLaney: you want me to push that patch to gtk-doc/experimental then?13:07
GunnarHjseb128: Hi Seb!13:31
GunnarHjI installed the new langpacks for zesty successfully. But I'm a bit confused. Unlike what I thought, the ubuntu-docs translations seem to be up-to-date. Did you grab a fresh langpack build and uploaded that? Is the package names wrong wrt the the date of the langpack creation?13:31
seb128Trevinho, sorry I overlooked your ping in the backlog after lunch, you know that you can do "request another review" on launchpad right?13:31
seb128hey GunnarHj, thanks for testing!13:31
seb128GunnarHj, I used the first export from https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs (bottom right corner)13:32
seb128it has been done at the date indicated13:32
seb128but maybe the strings didn't change that much since previous cycle?13:32
GunnarHjseb128: Weird. I looked specifically at a few new strings. There must be something I have misunderstood then.13:33
seb128when have those strings been uploaded?13:34
seb128or maybe the ubuntu-docs template is using the one from the vcs which was uptodate before the package upload?13:34
seb128oh13:37
GunnarHjseb128: The translations I looked at were submitted to LP around March 23, but the package was built only on March 31. I thought that the package build made the translations available for the langpack builder.13:40
seb128replying to the u8 question from earlier, I'm not working on that and I don't think anyone here is, unsure that's something needed since there is already an unity8-mir-session binary and the env is pre-installed, but if somebody feels the need and want to work on it there is no reason they couldn't try13:40
GunnarHjseb128: What I'm talking about it specific to ubuntu-docs and other docs stuff where the translations are provided in hardcoded XML files and not dynamically via MO files.13:43
seb128GunnarHj, do you have an example of string?13:44
GunnarHjseb128: I'm not on zesty now. Will check it out again, and get back to you.13:44
seb128k13:44
seb128thanks13:44
seb128in any case we have langpacks which are working13:45
seb128and we can generate a new round tomorrow if needed13:45
GunnarHjseb128: Indeed. I just want to understand why it's working. :)13:45
seb128if you give me an example of string that you think is new in zesty and shouldn't be in there I can try to have a look and understandf what's going on13:45
GunnarHjseb128: Right. I'll give you an example later.13:46
seb128k13:46
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Laneyjbicha: well, why do we need it in Ubuntu?14:03
jbichait's a one-line fix and it's just one less thing for the gnome3 staging ppa14:07
Laneyhmm14:08
Laneyyou wouldn't ask the Debian release team to include a patch for that reason14:08
jbicharight, but I thought it might be acceptable for the Ubuntu release team…14:11
willcookeback14:18
GunnarHjseb128: Take this page as an example:14:23
GunnarHj/usr/share/help-langpack/sv/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.page14:24
GunnarHjIt's provided by language-pack-gnome-sv-base 1:17.04+20170321.14:24
GunnarHjThe page was rewritten to a large extent, most of the Swedish translations were added to LP on March 22 and 23, but that shouldn't help, since we are talkning about a hardcoded XML file.14:24
GunnarHjThe current version of the Swedish net-install-flash.page was created when ubuntu-docs was built on March 31, and stripped via pkgstriptranslations. So in my world it couldn't have been available to the langpack builder before then.14:24
GunnarHjWhat am I missing?14:24
seb128GunnarHj, good question...14:27
GunnarHjseb128: It just struck me... Can it be that those XML files are not included in the langpack tarballs, but are pulled somehow when the language packs are built?14:28
GunnarHjseb128: That would explain the mystery...14:31
Laneydoes it get them from the upstream translations?14:35
Laneyif they're shared with the source or something14:35
GunnarHjLaney: No, that specific page is Ubuntu specific.14:36
Laneywhat does that mean?14:36
GunnarHjLaney: I modified it for ubuntu-docs without bothering about any upstream.14:37
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Laneyhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-help/en_GB/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=install+Flash14:38
Laneythat upstream14:38
GunnarHjLaney: Aha, you mean the trunk. Yes, it's indeed shared with zesty, but I can't see how it would explain anything.14:40
LaneyWhere else would they have come from?14:42
GunnarHjLaney: In my world the translated docs pages come from the ubuntu-docs build process and pkgstriptranslations. The langpack builder isn't reasonably capable of created those pages on its own.14:45
LaneyBAH14:57
LaneyGUNNARRRRRRRRR COME BACKKK14:57
GunnarHjseb128, Laney: I downloaded the whole tarball from https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs (version 2017-03-22), and rosetta-zesty/sv/LC_MESSAGES/ubuntu-help.po does not include the latest translations (of course). I suspect that such ubuntu-help.po files are ignored, and that the language-pack-gnome-XX-base packages get the XML files from somewhere else at the time when they are built, and irrespective o15:00
GunnarHjf which tarball is used for building the MO files for other packages. Does that make sense?15:00
LaneyGunnarHj: You went away :)15:00
Laneylp:langpack-o-matic downloads the custom tarballs when it's building the langpacks15:01
GunnarHjLaney: Yeah, bad internet connection.15:01
GunnarHjLaney: Right, but the tarballs don't include the XML files. It must reasonably get them from somewhere else.15:03
Laneyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24313763/15:03
Laneythose are downloaded when you build the source packages I think15:05
GunnarHjLaney: Okay.. *Those* tarballs should indeed include the XML files which were stripped at the build of ubuntu-docs. And that's the latest version (17.04.3) from March 31.15:07
LaneyNeat, we got there15:08
Laneylp:langpack-o-matic for future reference then15:09
GunnarHjseb128, Laney: So in that case we currently have MO files based on translations up to March 21, and translated XML files for ubuntu-docs from March 31.15:09
willcookeLaney, seb128 - just fwd'd you guys an email about some FFes - could you take a look and advise15:10
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GunnarHjLaney: Thanks for your help to solve the mystery. But can you explain how you got that pastebin info from lp:langpack-o-matic?15:14
Laneywillcooke: Is it the ones that were pinged about a few minutes ago and I already opened at that point?15:17
LaneyGunnarHj: I read the code and then I typed a version of it into ipython15:17
GunnarHjLaney: Ok, the long way. I hoped you had found some kind of documentation. :) Thanks.15:18
Laneywillcooke: so yeh, looking already, thanks!15:18
willcookethanks Laney, sorry for pinging on IRC as well but wanted to be certain you saw it15:19
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* allison1 blinks15:29
willcookeaieee15:31
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-04-0415:31
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LaneyGunnarHj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TranslationLifecycle/LanguagePackGeneration#The_import_script15:31
willcookeRoll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)15:32
flexiondotorgo/15:32
* Sweetshark waves.15:32
andyrocko/15:32
allison1o\15:32
qenghoOh man.15:32
qenghoallison1: nick troubles?15:32
allison1seemingly15:33
willcookeoh, my bad, copy and paste from an old list15:33
willcookefixed15:33
allison1the matrix is... weird15:33
willcookewhich is the "real" active nick allison1?15:33
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allison[m]let's go with this15:34
willcookeack15:34
willcookeRight, let's go...15:34
willcooke#topic andyrock15:34
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andyrockhey15:34
andyrocknothing special this week, basically helping with the review of the compiz a11y branches15:35
andyrocknow I'm back on cr15:35
andyrockeof15:35
willcookethanks andyrock15:35
willcooke#topic attente15:35
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attentegtk-mir bugs, hoping this can be merged, sponsored: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk-mir/+merge/32173915:35
attente(eof)15:35
willcookethanks attente15:36
willcooke#topic allison[m]15:36
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allison[m]hey15:36
allison[m]this week has been a bit of a wash but last week was pretty cool15:36
allison[m]wrote a really cool efficient dispatcher for dconf change notification events... basically, let's the proxy be used by several confined applications at once15:37
allison[m]eof.15:37
willcookethanks allison[m]15:37
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:38
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dgadomskihey15:38
dgadomski* working on a custom bluez agent to compensate for the deprecated pincodes-file functionality for legacy pairing15:38
dgadomski* testing updated patch for bug #164658515:38
ubot5bug 1646585 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Zesty) "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164658515:38
dgadomskieof15:38
willcookethanks dgadomski15:38
willcooke#topic FJKong15:38
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willcookeFJKong, please let me have your updates via email15:39
willcooke#topic flexiondotorg15:39
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flexiondotorgHi15:39
flexiondotorgWorking on about a dozen snap with ISVs.15:39
flexiondotorgMade a snap of yarn.15:40
flexiondotorgTesting the snap of snapcraft.15:40
flexiondotorgSnapcraft docs day.15:40
flexiondotorgWriting presentations for Nodejs, Python and IoT meetups.15:40
flexiondotorgAnd giving them.15:40
flexiondotorgeof15:41
willcookethanks flexiondotorg15:41
willcooke#topic happyaron15:41
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willcookeGonna assume happyaron is in bed.  Please let me have your update via email15:41
willcooke#topic hikiko15:41
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willcooke- chromium:15:41
willcooke-- blocked because of some changes in mir/miral, worked a little in miral code, finally fixed my problems with the help of Alan G. (he also fixed some segfaults in a branch)15:41
willcooke- unity:15:41
willcooke--worked a little on bugs today (+managed to record the grab edge case in a friend's computer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1679609)15:41
willcooke-- reviewing stuff15:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1679609 in unity (Ubuntu) "dash fails to grab mouse in some edge cases" [Undecided,New]15:41
willcookeEOF15:41
willcooke#topic Laney15:41
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Laney• Short week; off for 1.5 days15:42
Laney• Queue reviews, FFe reviews, lots of times over15:42
Laney• gnome-software patches (master, for 17.10):15:42
Laney∘ fix installing from URLs (apt://foo), needed fixup for not-found packages15:42
Laney∘ fix the above to display an error when necessary; waiting for a designer to give an error string15:42
Laney• autopkgtest: a bit of babysitting due to some acid rain in the cloud15:42
Laney• try to help debug / push some things through britney into zesty15:42
Laney🐶15:42
willcookethanks Laney15:42
willcooke#topic qengho15:42
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qengho* Gave Cr 57 to #security for upload for X,Y,Z.15:43
qengho* Having troubles with Cr on T. Probably a ld.bfd linker bug that is fixed in X+'s versions.15:43
qenghoEOF15:43
willcookethanks qengho15:43
willcooke#topic seb12815:43
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seb128• some more fiddling with langpack builders to get a working set of debs for zesty (the stats job is still owned by dpm and hasn't been updated for the new serie)15:43
seb128• joined sponsoring queue squashing party day15:43
seb128• launchpad & e.u.c triaging15:43
seb128• zesty iso testing15:43
seb128• started reviewing u-c-c low-gfx changes15:43
seb128</week>15:43
willcookethanks seb12815:43
willcooke#topic Sweetshark15:43
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Sweetshark- was on vacation for 1 week15:43
Sweetshark- tied some lose ends around that: Periguia Hackfest, TDF project budget approvals & tenders15:43
Sweetshark- so mostly just dragging myself through the backlog15:43
Sweetshark- bug 1662227 indeed looks bad though, should get a FFe IMHO (thankfully there is already a fix by r_icotz committed my absence)15:44
ubot5bug 1662227 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Error with command "apt-get update" when using versioned "Provides:" (apt is too old to support that case)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166222715:44
SweetsharkEOF15:44
willcookethanks Sweetshark15:44
willcooke10 4 good buddy15:44
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:44
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willcooke* Heard from Konrad with an update for pulse in Xenial. Package is available for testing at ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing, and has patches for fixing/improving bluetooth, which is backports of fixes from upstream. I am concerned that one of the patches touches core pulse code and code in the ALSA module, but those changes are small, and that code is in newer upstream releases in yakkety etc and it seems to be ok there.15:44
willcooke* More debugging of the accessibility issues I previously reported about in Unity 7. After talking to Robert, it may have something to do with the lightdm greeters, started setting up a test install to try and test this more thoroughly.15:44
willcooke* Noticed a bug with zesty and ubiquity re accessibility, I think it has to do with the above, because everything is ok if I kill and restart at-spi. Getting to the bottom of the zesty unity 7 accessibility bug as above should resolve this properly.15:44
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:44
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tkamppeter- system-config-printer: Checked whether text-only fallback works with new textonly PPD in cups-printers. It does. No changes needed.15:44
tkamppeter- Common Print Dialog: The Canonical Unity 8 team has already implemented the Qt GUI designed for Ubuntu. Students will then more work on inner works, like D-Bus interface and common printing system access backends.15:44
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2017: Student application period has terminated, sorted out the applications. OpenPrinting will have 7 or 8 students depending on slots we will get from Google.15:44
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:44
willcookethanks tkamppeter15:45
willcooke#topic Trevinho15:45
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willcooke· Almost off for travelling the past week15:45
willcooke· Improved the compiz config profile selector in unity15:45
willcooke· Removed the parts of compiz config from unity-control-center15:45
willcooke· Proposed unity, compiz, u-c-c branches and done a silo15:45
willcooke· Some more contacts to get the nextcloud client in the store15:45
willcooke· Backported to trusty an annoying indicator-calendar crash fix15:45
willcooke /EOD15:45
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:45
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willcooke- Chasing down bugs from errors.ubuntu.com and upstreaming / SRUing where possible.15:46
willcooke#topic AOB15:46
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willcookeI'm off tomorrow.  Got to go to a funeral.15:46
willcookePlease do some ISO testing15:46
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willcookeAnyone got anything else to share?15:46
willcookeOh, and please see email re: 17.10 work and add anything you would like to work on to the list15:47
willcookeClosing the meeting in 20... 19....15:47
willcooke#endmeeting15:48
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr  4 15:48:15 2017 UTC.15:48
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-04-04-15.31.moin.txt15:48
willcookethanks all15:48
seb128thanks15:49
LaneyYEAH!!!!15:49
attentethanks15:50
attenteLaney: hey, is there a reason https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2690 is unapproved? is it because it's too late?15:50
LaneyEverything's going through review now15:50
muktupavelsallison[m]: can you please review new patches in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74659215:51
ubot5Gnome bug 746592 in gsettings "Support for per-session overrides" [Normal,Reopened]15:51
attenteok, thanks15:51
GunnarHjLaney: Thanks for pointing at the LanguagePackGeneration page. Yes, there was a hint, at least. ;) (Last updated 2010-03-16, many references to Karmic. Hmm...)16:25
GunnarHjseb128: Now when we understand why the docs translations are up-to-date, I suppose it's time to worry about the other packages. LanguagePackTranslationDeadline is on Thursday, so we need some kind of langpack update after that. I suppose there are two options:16:26
GunnarHj1. Requesting a full language pack export and build/upload everything again.16:26
GunnarHj2. Setting 2017-03-22 as the "language pack base" on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs so a delta language pack gets exported, and only build/upload that.16:26
LaneyYou want the last one before release to be a full one, don't you?16:28
* Laney says without knowing much about such things16:28
GunnarHjLaney: Maybe, probably. I think that's how it has been done in previous cycles.16:29
Laneyso that the SRUs are as small as possible16:29
Laneynot sure if we do those for non-LTS releases though16:30
GunnarHjLaney: We haven't for the latest non-LTS releases.16:30
seb128we can do another full export I guess16:33
seb128GunnarHj, did you understand the ubuntu-doc being uptodate?16:34
seb128GunnarHj, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs got a new tarball today so maybe we use that?16:34
GunnarHjseb128: Yes, I think so. Laney pointed at the ubuntu-docs tarball with the static XML files, which was used at the time you built/uploaded.16:35
seb128I missed that part of the backlog I guess16:36
seb128but good that you figured it out16:36
GunnarHjseb128: Today's tarball is too early, isn't it? Deadline is on Thursday 21.00 UTC.16:36
GunnarHj* I know I'm a PITA *16:37
seb128well I guess we can try to ask the launchpad admin to kick manually an export after that16:38
seb128I think p_itti used to do that16:39
GunnarHjseb128: I think that would be good. Out of respect for all the translators out there.16:39
seb128wfm16:39
seb128so meanwhile we do nothing and wait right? ;-)16:39
GunnarHjseb128: Suppose so. The current langpacks seem to be correct in a technical sense.16:40
seb128good16:40
seb128they migrated to zesty proposed now as well16:41
seb128so I'm going to give a round of testing to the iso tomorrow16:41
attentejbicha: would you be able to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk-mir/+merge/321739?16:41
jbichaattente: I didn't look because I believe Laney said he was going to review that16:42
attentejbicha: oh, i think there were some crossed wires there, we were talking about another merge16:42
jbichaoh, he replied immediately after you asked me yesterday (?)16:43
attenteyeah, sorry about that16:43
LaneyI didn't say that16:44
LaneyI did actually comment on one patch in it16:44
Laneybut I never claimed to be reviewing it16:44
attentejbicha: are you doing another upload for your recent upstream commit anyways?16:45
jbichafor context, what I saw was https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/03/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t16:3016:46
jbichabut sure, I'll look at it now16:46
attentethanks jbicha16:47
jbichano, the docs thing I commited isn't important enough to push to zesty outside of a new upstream gtk3.22 release16:47
attenteok16:49
Laneynight team!17:03
LaneyDO GREAT THINGS!17:03
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willcookenight all, see you Thursday17:26
jbichawhy does unity8-desktop-session still depend on upstart?17:26
jbichamy touchpad doesn't work at all in unity8 (but a mouse works). Is this a known bug?17:34
jbicharobert_ancell: I had trouble clicking on the session chooser in unity-greeter today22:40
jbichaI could get to it by using the tab key on my keyboard to select it and then it worked from then on22:40
robert_ancelljbicha, weird22:41
jbichaI've usually been using gdm so I don't know how long it's been like that22:41
robert_ancelljbicha, can you click on the other users OK, i.e. is it just the session chooser?22:43
jbichaI have three accounts on this computer, the other two are bob and steve22:48
jbichaif I click on steve, I can't click on jeremy but I can click on bob22:48
jbichaafter clicking on bob, I can click on any of the users and the session chooser works too22:49
jbichaI think it's bob's fault! ;)22:50
robert_ancellheh22:53
jbichaalso when I close the session chooser, there's this blank spot below my user name in the shape of the session chooser22:57
jbichain the blank spot, I can see the wallpaper but not the dot pattern and 'steve' and the Guest login are hidden (because they would have been under the session chooser footprint)22:58
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