[04:43] <hikiko> hi
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:02] <didrocks> good morning willcooke!
[08:03] <Laney> ahoy
[08:03] <Laney> couldn't find my laptop just then /o\
[08:03] <willcooke> hey Laney didrocks
[08:04] <didrocks> hey hey Laney!
[08:08] <Laney> hey willcooke hey didrocks!
[08:08] <Laney> what's new
[08:09] <Laney> jbicha: please commit that gtk-doc fix to debian
[08:09] <didrocks> nothing much, writing some tests today :)
[08:09] <didrocks> you?
[08:13] <Laney> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:14] <Laney> no nothing at all!
[08:17] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:17] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:18] <flexiondotorg> Morning all
[08:19] <seb128> sorry a bit late, we have workers here to fix our shower which is leaking (not an easy fix unfortunatelly, they need to remove the glass panels, redrill the wall, etc)
[08:19] <seb128> they arrived just as I was about to start IRC
[08:19] <seb128> hey willcooke flexiondotorg Laney, how is u.k today?
[08:19]  * flexiondotorg opens the curtains
[08:19] <Laney> not still bathroom problems?!?
[08:19] <Laney> hi seb128 & flexiondotorg!
[08:19] <flexiondotorg> Grey
[08:20] <seb128> Laney, yeah, there was a structural error made with the shower and there is no workaround patch that is working
[08:20] <seb128> so we get it properly fixed now
[08:22] <seb128> which is basically removing the panels, filling the drill gaps in the wall, moving the panel, doing new drills, redoing some tiling and then putting the panel back
[08:23] <Laney> annoying
[08:23] <Laney> hope you don't have to do any decorating to fix that and that it works!
[08:24] <seb128> should be good but let's see
[10:10] <Trevinho> seb128: hey
[10:10] <Trevinho> seb128: you should check https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-control-center/unity-lowgfx-support/+merge/321827
[10:16] <Trevinho> andyrock: unity side, when you want https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/lowgfx-profile-setter/+merge/321834
[10:46] <Trevinho> hikiko: both ^
[11:17] <andyrock> Trevinho: i'll take a look
[11:17] <hikiko> +I ll look at it later
[11:45] <bregma> hey desktoppers can anyone tell me where the ubuntu-desktop comes from? Is it simply germinated from a Ubuntu seed?
[11:45] <flexiondotorg> bregma, Yes it is.
[11:45] <Laney> lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.zesty
[11:45] <bregma> swell, thanks
[11:46] <flexiondotorg> bregma Also, love your work in the Phoronix comments ;-)
[11:46] <bregma> it's a weird hobby
[11:46] <ogra> yeah
[11:46] <flexiondotorg> Made my morning coffee that much more enjoyable.
[11:46] <flexiondotorg> I made popcorn.
[11:46] <ogra> lol
[11:47] <bregma> I read phoronix the way people go to bars to pick fights
[11:50] <bregma> anyway, my next question is if anyone (seb128 maybe) is working to create a Unity 8 desktop meta-package from the seeds in the same way as unity-desktop
[12:11] <Laney> can't say for sure, but I doubt it
[13:07] <jbicha> Laney: you want me to push that patch to gtk-doc/experimental then?
[13:31] <GunnarHj> seb128: Hi Seb!
[13:31] <GunnarHj> I installed the new langpacks for zesty successfully. But I'm a bit confused. Unlike what I thought, the ubuntu-docs translations seem to be up-to-date. Did you grab a fresh langpack build and uploaded that? Is the package names wrong wrt the the date of the langpack creation?
[13:31] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry I overlooked your ping in the backlog after lunch, you know that you can do "request another review" on launchpad right?
[13:31] <seb128> hey GunnarHj, thanks for testing!
[13:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, I used the first export from https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs (bottom right corner)
[13:32] <seb128> it has been done at the date indicated
[13:32] <seb128> but maybe the strings didn't change that much since previous cycle?
[13:33] <GunnarHj> seb128: Weird. I looked specifically at a few new strings. There must be something I have misunderstood then.
[13:34] <seb128> when have those strings been uploaded?
[13:34] <seb128> or maybe the ubuntu-docs template is using the one from the vcs which was uptodate before the package upload?
[13:37] <seb128> oh
[13:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: The translations I looked at were submitted to LP around March 23, but the package was built only on March 31. I thought that the package build made the translations available for the langpack builder.
[13:40] <seb128> replying to the u8 question from earlier, I'm not working on that and I don't think anyone here is, unsure that's something needed since there is already an unity8-mir-session binary and the env is pre-installed, but if somebody feels the need and want to work on it there is no reason they couldn't try
[13:43] <GunnarHj> seb128: What I'm talking about it specific to ubuntu-docs and other docs stuff where the translations are provided in hardcoded XML files and not dynamically via MO files.
[13:44] <seb128> GunnarHj, do you have an example of string?
[13:44] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'm not on zesty now. Will check it out again, and get back to you.
[13:44] <seb128> k
[13:44] <seb128> thanks
[13:45] <seb128> in any case we have langpacks which are working
[13:45] <seb128> and we can generate a new round tomorrow if needed
[13:45] <GunnarHj> seb128: Indeed. I just want to understand why it's working. :)
[13:45] <seb128> if you give me an example of string that you think is new in zesty and shouldn't be in there I can try to have a look and understandf what's going on
[13:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Right. I'll give you an example later.
[13:46] <seb128> k
[14:03] <Laney> jbicha: well, why do we need it in Ubuntu?
[14:07] <jbicha> it's a one-line fix and it's just one less thing for the gnome3 staging ppa
[14:08] <Laney> hmm
[14:08] <Laney> you wouldn't ask the Debian release team to include a patch for that reason
[14:11] <jbicha> right, but I thought it might be acceptable for the Ubuntu release team…
[14:18] <willcooke> back
[14:23] <GunnarHj> seb128: Take this page as an example:
[14:24] <GunnarHj> /usr/share/help-langpack/sv/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.page
[14:24] <GunnarHj> It's provided by language-pack-gnome-sv-base 1:17.04+20170321.
[14:24] <GunnarHj> The page was rewritten to a large extent, most of the Swedish translations were added to LP on March 22 and 23, but that shouldn't help, since we are talkning about a hardcoded XML file.
[14:24] <GunnarHj> The current version of the Swedish net-install-flash.page was created when ubuntu-docs was built on March 31, and stripped via pkgstriptranslations. So in my world it couldn't have been available to the langpack builder before then.
[14:24] <GunnarHj> What am I missing?
[14:27] <seb128> GunnarHj, good question...
[14:28] <GunnarHj> seb128: It just struck me... Can it be that those XML files are not included in the langpack tarballs, but are pulled somehow when the language packs are built?
[14:31] <GunnarHj> seb128: That would explain the mystery...
[14:35] <Laney> does it get them from the upstream translations?
[14:35] <Laney> if they're shared with the source or something
[14:36] <GunnarHj> Laney: No, that specific page is Ubuntu specific.
[14:36] <Laney> what does that mean?
[14:37] <GunnarHj> Laney: I modified it for ubuntu-docs without bothering about any upstream.
[14:38] <Laney> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-help/en_GB/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=install+Flash
[14:38] <Laney> that upstream
[14:40] <GunnarHj> Laney: Aha, you mean the trunk. Yes, it's indeed shared with zesty, but I can't see how it would explain anything.
[14:42] <Laney> Where else would they have come from?
[14:45] <GunnarHj> Laney: In my world the translated docs pages come from the ubuntu-docs build process and pkgstriptranslations. The langpack builder isn't reasonably capable of created those pages on its own.
[14:57] <Laney> BAH
[14:57] <Laney> GUNNARRRRRRRRR COME BACKKK
[15:00] <GunnarHj> seb128, Laney: I downloaded the whole tarball from https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs (version 2017-03-22), and rosetta-zesty/sv/LC_MESSAGES/ubuntu-help.po does not include the latest translations (of course). I suspect that such ubuntu-help.po files are ignored, and that the language-pack-gnome-XX-base packages get the XML files from somewhere else at the time when they are built, and irrespective o
[15:00] <GunnarHj> f which tarball is used for building the MO files for other packages. Does that make sense?
[15:00] <Laney> GunnarHj: You went away :)
[15:01] <Laney> lp:langpack-o-matic downloads the custom tarballs when it's building the langpacks
[15:01] <GunnarHj> Laney: Yeah, bad internet connection.
[15:03] <GunnarHj> Laney: Right, but the tarballs don't include the XML files. It must reasonably get them from somewhere else.
[15:03] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24313763/
[15:05] <Laney> those are downloaded when you build the source packages I think
[15:07] <GunnarHj> Laney: Okay.. *Those* tarballs should indeed include the XML files which were stripped at the build of ubuntu-docs. And that's the latest version (17.04.3) from March 31.
[15:08] <Laney> Neat, we got there
[15:09] <Laney> lp:langpack-o-matic for future reference then
[15:09] <GunnarHj> seb128, Laney: So in that case we currently have MO files based on translations up to March 21, and translated XML files for ubuntu-docs from March 31.
[15:10] <willcooke> Laney, seb128 - just fwd'd you guys an email about some FFes - could you take a look and advise
[15:14] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks for your help to solve the mystery. But can you explain how you got that pastebin info from lp:langpack-o-matic?
[15:17] <Laney> willcooke: Is it the ones that were pinged about a few minutes ago and I already opened at that point?
[15:17] <Laney> GunnarHj: I read the code and then I typed a version of it into ipython
[15:18] <GunnarHj> Laney: Ok, the long way. I hoped you had found some kind of documentation. :) Thanks.
[15:18] <Laney> willcooke: so yeh, looking already, thanks!
[15:19] <willcooke> thanks Laney, sorry for pinging on IRC as well but wanted to be certain you saw it
[15:29]  * allison1 blinks
[15:31] <willcooke> aieee
[15:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-04-04
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr  4 15:31:19 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:31] <Laney> GunnarHj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TranslationLifecycle/LanguagePackGeneration#The_import_script
[15:32] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
[15:32] <flexiondotorg> o/
[15:32]  * Sweetshark waves.
[15:32] <andyrock> o/
[15:32] <allison1> o\
[15:32] <qengho> Oh man.
[15:32] <qengho> allison1: nick troubles?
[15:33] <allison1> seemingly
[15:33] <willcooke> oh, my bad, copy and paste from an old list
[15:33] <willcooke> fixed
[15:33] <allison1> the matrix is... weird
[15:33] <willcooke> which is the "real" active nick allison1?
[15:34] <allison[m]> let's go with this
[15:34] <willcooke> ack
[15:34] <willcooke> Right, let's go...
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:34] <andyrock> hey
[15:35] <andyrock> nothing special this week, basically helping with the review of the compiz a11y branches
[15:35] <andyrock> now I'm back on cr
[15:35] <andyrock> eof
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:35] <attente> gtk-mir bugs, hoping this can be merged, sponsored: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk-mir/+merge/321739
[15:35] <attente> (eof)
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic allison[m]
[15:36] <allison[m]> hey
[15:36] <allison[m]> this week has been a bit of a wash but last week was pretty cool
[15:37] <allison[m]> wrote a really cool efficient dispatcher for dconf change notification events... basically, let's the proxy be used by several confined applications at once
[15:37] <allison[m]> eof.
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks allison[m]
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:38] <dgadomski> hey
[15:38] <dgadomski> * working on a custom bluez agent to compensate for the deprecated pincodes-file functionality for legacy pairing
[15:38] <dgadomski> * testing updated patch for bug #1646585
[15:38] <dgadomski> eof
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:39] <willcooke> FJKong, please let me have your updates via email
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> Hi
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> Working on about a dozen snap with ISVs.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> Made a snap of yarn.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> Testing the snap of snapcraft.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> Snapcraft docs day.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> Writing presentations for Nodejs, Python and IoT meetups.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> And giving them.
[15:41] <flexiondotorg> eof
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:41] <willcooke> Gonna assume happyaron is in bed.  Please let me have your update via email
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:41] <willcooke> - chromium:
[15:41] <willcooke> -- blocked because of some changes in mir/miral, worked a little in miral code, finally fixed my problems with the help of Alan G. (he also fixed some segfaults in a branch)
[15:41] <willcooke> - unity:
[15:41] <willcooke> --worked a little on bugs today (+managed to record the grab edge case in a friend's computer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1679609)
[15:41] <willcooke> -- reviewing stuff
[15:41] <willcooke> EOF
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:42] <Laney> • Short week; off for 1.5 days
[15:42] <Laney> • Queue reviews, FFe reviews, lots of times over
[15:42] <Laney> • gnome-software patches (master, for 17.10):
[15:42] <Laney> ∘ fix installing from URLs (apt://foo), needed fixup for not-found packages
[15:42] <Laney> ∘ fix the above to display an error when necessary; waiting for a designer to give an error string
[15:42] <Laney> • autopkgtest: a bit of babysitting due to some acid rain in the cloud
[15:42] <Laney> • try to help debug / push some things through britney into zesty
[15:42] <Laney> 🐶
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:43] <qengho> * Gave Cr 57 to #security for upload for X,Y,Z.
[15:43] <qengho> * Having troubles with Cr on T. Probably a ld.bfd linker bug that is fixed in X+'s versions.
[15:43] <qengho> EOF
[15:43] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:43] <seb128> • some more fiddling with langpack builders to get a working set of debs for zesty (the stats job is still owned by dpm and hasn't been updated for the new serie)
[15:43] <seb128> • joined sponsoring queue squashing party day
[15:43] <seb128> • launchpad & e.u.c triaging
[15:43] <seb128> • zesty iso testing
[15:43] <seb128> • started reviewing u-c-c low-gfx changes
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[15:43] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Sweetshark
[15:43] <Sweetshark> - was on vacation for 1 week
[15:43] <Sweetshark> - tied some lose ends around that: Periguia Hackfest, TDF project budget approvals & tenders
[15:43] <Sweetshark> - so mostly just dragging myself through the backlog
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - bug 1662227 indeed looks bad though, should get a FFe IMHO (thankfully there is already a fix by r_icotz committed my absence)
[15:44] <Sweetshark> EOF
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks Sweetshark
[15:44] <willcooke> 10 4 good buddy
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:44] <willcooke> * Heard from Konrad with an update for pulse in Xenial. Package is available for testing at ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing, and has patches for fixing/improving bluetooth, which is backports of fixes from upstream. I am concerned that one of the patches touches core pulse code and code in the ALSA module, but those changes are small, and that code is in newer upstream releases in yakkety etc and it seems to be ok there.
[15:44] <willcooke> * More debugging of the accessibility issues I previously reported about in Unity 7. After talking to Robert, it may have something to do with the lightdm greeters, started setting up a test install to try and test this more thoroughly.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Noticed a bug with zesty and ubiquity re accessibility, I think it has to do with the above, because everything is ok if I kill and restart at-spi. Getting to the bottom of the zesty unity 7 accessibility bug as above should resolve this properly.
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Checked whether text-only fallback works with new textonly PPD in cups-printers. It does. No changes needed.
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - Common Print Dialog: The Canonical Unity 8 team has already implemented the Qt GUI designed for Ubuntu. Students will then more work on inner works, like D-Bus interface and common printing system access backends.
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2017: Student application period has terminated, sorted out the applications. OpenPrinting will have 7 or 8 students depending on slots we will get from Google.
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:45] <willcooke> · Almost off for travelling the past week
[15:45] <willcooke> · Improved the compiz config profile selector in unity
[15:45] <willcooke> · Removed the parts of compiz config from unity-control-center
[15:45] <willcooke> · Proposed unity, compiz, u-c-c branches and done a silo
[15:45] <willcooke> · Some more contacts to get the nextcloud client in the store
[15:45] <willcooke> · Backported to trusty an annoying indicator-calendar crash fix
[15:45] <willcooke>  /EOD
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:46] <willcooke> - Chasing down bugs from errors.ubuntu.com and upstreaming / SRUing where possible.
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:46] <willcooke> I'm off tomorrow.  Got to go to a funeral.
[15:46] <willcooke> Please do some ISO testing
[15:46] <willcooke> Anyone got anything else to share?
[15:47] <willcooke> Oh, and please see email re: 17.10 work and add anything you would like to work on to the list
[15:47] <willcooke> Closing the meeting in 20... 19....
[15:48] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr  4 15:48:15 2017 UTC.
[15:48] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-04-04-15.31.moin.txt
[15:48] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:49] <seb128> thanks
[15:49] <Laney> YEAH!!!!
[15:50] <attente> thanks
[15:50] <attente> Laney: hey, is there a reason https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2690 is unapproved? is it because it's too late?
[15:50] <Laney> Everything's going through review now
[15:51] <muktupavels> allison[m]: can you please review new patches in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746592
[15:51] <attente> ok, thanks
[16:25] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks for pointing at the LanguagePackGeneration page. Yes, there was a hint, at least. ;) (Last updated 2010-03-16, many references to Karmic. Hmm...)
[16:26] <GunnarHj> seb128: Now when we understand why the docs translations are up-to-date, I suppose it's time to worry about the other packages. LanguagePackTranslationDeadline is on Thursday, so we need some kind of langpack update after that. I suppose there are two options:
[16:26] <GunnarHj> 1. Requesting a full language pack export and build/upload everything again.
[16:26] <GunnarHj> 2. Setting 2017-03-22 as the "language pack base" on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs so a delta language pack gets exported, and only build/upload that.
[16:28] <Laney> You want the last one before release to be a full one, don't you?
[16:28]  * Laney says without knowing much about such things
[16:29] <GunnarHj> Laney: Maybe, probably. I think that's how it has been done in previous cycles.
[16:29] <Laney> so that the SRUs are as small as possible
[16:30] <Laney> not sure if we do those for non-LTS releases though
[16:30] <GunnarHj> Laney: We haven't for the latest non-LTS releases.
[16:33] <seb128> we can do another full export I guess
[16:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, did you understand the ubuntu-doc being uptodate?
[16:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+language-packs got a new tarball today so maybe we use that?
[16:35] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yes, I think so. Laney pointed at the ubuntu-docs tarball with the static XML files, which was used at the time you built/uploaded.
[16:36] <seb128> I missed that part of the backlog I guess
[16:36] <seb128> but good that you figured it out
[16:36] <GunnarHj> seb128: Today's tarball is too early, isn't it? Deadline is on Thursday 21.00 UTC.
[16:37] <GunnarHj> * I know I'm a PITA *
[16:38] <seb128> well I guess we can try to ask the launchpad admin to kick manually an export after that
[16:39] <seb128> I think p_itti used to do that
[16:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: I think that would be good. Out of respect for all the translators out there.
[16:39] <seb128> wfm
[16:39] <seb128> so meanwhile we do nothing and wait right? ;-)
[16:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: Suppose so. The current langpacks seem to be correct in a technical sense.
[16:40] <seb128> good
[16:41] <seb128> they migrated to zesty proposed now as well
[16:41] <seb128> so I'm going to give a round of testing to the iso tomorrow
[16:41] <attente> jbicha: would you be able to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk-mir/+merge/321739?
[16:42] <jbicha> attente: I didn't look because I believe Laney said he was going to review that
[16:42] <attente> jbicha: oh, i think there were some crossed wires there, we were talking about another merge
[16:43] <jbicha> oh, he replied immediately after you asked me yesterday (?)
[16:43] <attente> yeah, sorry about that
[16:44] <Laney> I didn't say that
[16:44] <Laney> I did actually comment on one patch in it
[16:44] <Laney> but I never claimed to be reviewing it
[16:45] <attente> jbicha: are you doing another upload for your recent upstream commit anyways?
[16:46] <jbicha> for context, what I saw was https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/03/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t16:30
[16:46] <jbicha> but sure, I'll look at it now
[16:47] <attente> thanks jbicha
[16:47] <jbicha> no, the docs thing I commited isn't important enough to push to zesty outside of a new upstream gtk3.22 release
[16:49] <attente> ok
[17:03] <Laney> night team!
[17:03] <Laney> DO GREAT THINGS!
[17:26] <willcooke> night all, see you Thursday
[17:26] <jbicha> why does unity8-desktop-session still depend on upstart?
[17:34] <jbicha> my touchpad doesn't work at all in unity8 (but a mouse works). Is this a known bug?
[22:40] <jbicha> robert_ancell: I had trouble clicking on the session chooser in unity-greeter today
[22:40] <jbicha> I could get to it by using the tab key on my keyboard to select it and then it worked from then on
[22:41] <robert_ancell> jbicha, weird
[22:41] <jbicha> I've usually been using gdm so I don't know how long it's been like that
[22:43] <robert_ancell> jbicha, can you click on the other users OK, i.e. is it just the session chooser?
[22:48] <jbicha> I have three accounts on this computer, the other two are bob and steve
[22:48] <jbicha> if I click on steve, I can't click on jeremy but I can click on bob
[22:49] <jbicha> after clicking on bob, I can click on any of the users and the session chooser works too
[22:50] <jbicha> I think it's bob's fault! ;)
[22:53] <robert_ancell> heh
[22:57] <jbicha> also when I close the session chooser, there's this blank spot below my user name in the shape of the session chooser
[22:58] <jbicha> in the blank spot, I can see the wallpaper but not the dot pattern and 'steve' and the Guest login are hidden (because they would have been under the session chooser footprint)