[00:11] <Oderus> hi. having permission issues with muon where when I try to install or remove a package it just hangs and says waiting for service to start. here's the terminal output https://paste.ubuntu.com/24316909/
[01:24] <valorie> Oderus: um
[01:25] <valorie> why would you be running it with kdesudo?
[01:25] <valorie> either run it and put in your passw. when it asks
[01:25] <Oderus> sorry only reason i was trying it with sudo is because it was giving that error normally
[01:25] <valorie> or just use apt
[01:25] <valorie> `sudo apt install packagename`
[01:26] <valorie> `apt search package`
[01:26] <valorie> etc.
[01:27] <Oderus> yes i know how to use apt just trying to use muon
[01:28] <valorie> it's a good little application
[01:28] <valorie> works for me
[01:30] <Oderus> ok ty. actually the reason i was trying to use muon was to purge old data which i don't know how to find or purge with apt
[01:30] <valorie>  ah
[01:30] <valorie> easier to do `sudo apt autoremove`
[01:31] <valorie> I think that's right, let me check
[01:32] <valorie> `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove` is what I use occasionally
[01:32] <valorie> up-arrow to the rescue!
[01:36] <Oderus> ok thank you
[01:50] <ngaio> does KDE have an equivalent to Unity's count and progress indicators on the application's launcher?
[02:00] <valorie> I'm not sure what that is? I don't use unity
[02:31] <ahoneybun> ngaio: the task on the panel will light up depending on the progress on the task
[02:31] <ahoneybun> ie moving files
[03:16] <ngaio> valorie, ahoneybun I'm referring to the number 235 and the progress bar above the application icon in this screenshot - http://damonlynch.net/rapid/screenshots/091/thumb/integration.png (61 KB)
[03:44] <valorie> ngaio: I don't have an image, but as ahoneybun says, the task button as a whole displays the progress
[03:44] <valorie> no little extra thingie on top
[03:54] <ngaio> valorie, can a non-KDE application set that progress indicator via code? do you know what it's called, so I can google for it?
[04:29] <valorie> what I'm saying is that it is already built in, ngaio
[04:30] <ngaio> valorie, I'm an application developer. I want my program to be able to set the progress indicator. But I don't know what it's called in KDE.
[04:31] <valorie> ah, got it
[04:31] <valorie> perhaps they can tell you what it's called in #plasma
[04:31] <valorie> it might even be a Qt class
[04:31] <valorie> unsure
[04:40] <ngaio> ok thank you :)
[06:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:19] <IrcsomeBot1> <Claudio Autiero> Morning group
[06:21] <lordievader> o/
[09:57] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[09:59] <lordievader> o/
[09:59] <lordievader> How are you BluesKaj
[10:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning lordievader, doing well thanks, and you?
[10:01] <lordievader> Doing good.
[10:01] <lordievader> Optimizing some python functions :)
[10:01] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:25] <mozammel> hi, I need help to rescue my kubuntu system. I had kubuntu system on /sda2 but letter I have installed deepin linux on /sda7, not I cant boot on to kubuntu, How to dual boot ?
[11:31] <hateball> !fixgrub | mozammel
[11:35] <BluesKaj> mozammel, or run sudo os-prober, then, sudo update-grub
[11:36] <mozammel> I did not installed windows, I installed Deepin Linux, now only i can see deepin linux on grub menu, no option for kubuntu
[11:36] <BluesKaj> read above
[11:38] <mozammel> BluesKaj: Thanks, let me try
[11:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: update-grub calls os-prober itself ;)
[11:41] <BluesKaj> lordievader, never seen that
[11:41] <BluesKaj> always had to run os-prober
[14:59] <Mad_John33> Salut !
[14:59] <mozammel>  Hi, I'm looking for help, I had kubuntu installed on /sda2 and then I have install Deepin Linux on /sda7, and I lost access kubuntu, there is no entity on grub menu, how to fix it ?
[22:08] <deeno> What does cannot obtain lock itself mean?