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floridagram<KMyers> Holy Shit!!!18:38
floridagram<KMyers> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/ubuntu-18-04-ship-gnome-desktop-not-unity18:38
floridagram<KMyers> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/18:38
floridagram<ahoneybun> you know OMGUbuntu is click bait18:38
floridagram<KMyers> @ahoneybun, I cannot deny that but the content in this case is completely true18:39
floridagram<ahoneybun> it's bullshit18:39
floridagram<ahoneybun> well just dumping Unity818:39
floridagram<KMyers> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/18:39
floridagram<ahoneybun> all that work with Qt18:39
floridagram<ahoneybun> I saw that18:39
floridagram<KMyers> They are not dumping Unity, just changing focus18:40
floridagram<ahoneybun> well switching from Unity to GShell kinda reads that way18:40
floridagram<ahoneybun> @KMyers biggest question is does that make Ubuntu GNOME useless18:42
floridagram<ahoneybun> at least 18.0418:42
floridagram<KMyers> It does, unless Ubuntu proper will use a customized build of Gnome, and Ubuntu Gnome will use a pure build18:42
floridagram<KMyers> I am not sure18:42
floridagram<KMyers> @mhall119 - ping18:43
floridagram<mhall119> pong18:43
floridagram<ahoneybun> well I wonder if they will ship a pure Natuius18:43
floridagram<KMyers> Do you know anything more about this?18:43
floridagram<KMyers> (Late April Fools Day joke perhaps)18:43
floridagram<mhall119> not really, I was only told about it today18:43
floridagram<mhall119> no joke I'm afraid :(18:43
floridagram<KMyers> I personally like Gnome and use Gnome but this is a pretty insane change18:44
floridagram<mhall119> I don't think there's been a decision yet (or even much discussion yet) about whether 18.04 will ship "Vanilla" GNOME, or "Ubuntu-ized" GNOME18:44
floridagram<ahoneybun> I hope they keep the forked Nautilus18:48
floridagram<ahoneybun> as it keeps good features18:49
floridagram<ahoneybun> that the developers for some crazy reason removed18:49
floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> I like gnome... It makes my lawn pretty18:52
floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> And I don't think it's unfortunate one bit, gnome seems more comfortable to me18:53
floridagram<govatent> All the fighting I did for unity18:58
maxolasersquadI'm a pretty big fan of Unity, and have advocated for it, but at the end of the day my DE isn't very important to me.19:16
maxolasersquadGnome is a solid DE and probably won't much notice the difference.19:16
maxolasersquadI remember that the 12.04 developer summit when this initiative was anounced it seemed like we'd have all this by 14.04. Here we are at 17.04 and still nothing production ready.19:17
floridagram<Abrerr> Wow. Gnome. Why?19:46
floridagram<Abrerr> Didn't see that coming.19:47
maxolasersquadUbuntu has always been Gnome-based. Unity uses all of Gnome's underpinnings, or forks of the Gnome underpinnings.19:52
floridagram<Abrerr> You're right, but what roadblock did they hit to dump Ubuntu's staple DE and decide to rep the Gnome?19:56
maxolasersquadThe Unity desktop, at this point is iconic. Every time it's used it immediately signals that Ubuntu is being used. I'm sad to see it go.19:58
floridagram<Abrerr> I can't load up the blog post atm19:59
floridagram<Abrerr> So Mir, convergence and mobile are out the window I guess?19:59
floridagram<ahoneybun> well Mir is dead19:59
floridagram<KMyers> No19:59
floridagram<Abrerr> When did Mir die? I feel like I missed something. :O20:00
floridagram<Abrerr> But I've been living under a rock so maybe I have. lol20:00
floridagram<ahoneybun> well I hear it is dead20:02
floridagram<Abrerr> Gnome is plenty good. Just surprising to hear.20:05
floridagram<Abrerr> Looking forward to the next LTS.20:05
floridagram<SivaMachina> Also if someone could make an extension of the title bar integration with the top panel for Gnome 3 would be nice.21:56

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