 Holy Shit!!!
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/ubuntu-18-04-ship-gnome-desktop-not-unity
 https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
 you know OMGUbuntu is click bait
 @ahoneybun, I cannot deny that but the content in this case is completely true
 it's bullshit
 well just dumping Unity8
 https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
 all that work with Qt
 I saw that
 They are not dumping Unity, just changing focus
 well switching from Unity to GShell kinda reads that way
 @KMyers biggest question is does that make Ubuntu GNOME useless
 at least 18.04
 It does, unless Ubuntu proper will use a customized build of Gnome, and Ubuntu Gnome will use a pure build
 I am not sure
 @mhall119 - ping
 pong
 well I wonder if they will ship a pure Natuius
 Do you know anything more about this?
 (Late April Fools Day joke perhaps)
 not really, I was only told about it today
 no joke I'm afraid :(
 I personally like Gnome and use Gnome but this is a pretty insane change
 I don't think there's been a decision yet (or even much discussion yet) about whether 18.04 will ship "Vanilla" GNOME, or "Ubuntu-ized" GNOME
 I hope they keep the forked Nautilus
 as it keeps good features
 that the developers for some crazy reason removed
 I like gnome... It makes my lawn pretty
 And I don't think it's unfortunate one bit, gnome seems more comfortable to me
 All the fighting I did for unity
[19:16] <maxolasersquad> I'm a pretty big fan of Unity, and have advocated for it, but at the end of the day my DE isn't very important to me.
[19:16] <maxolasersquad> Gnome is a solid DE and probably won't much notice the difference.
[19:17] <maxolasersquad> I remember that the 12.04 developer summit when this initiative was anounced it seemed like we'd have all this by 14.04. Here we are at 17.04 and still nothing production ready.
 Wow. Gnome. Why?
 Didn't see that coming.
[19:52] <maxolasersquad> Ubuntu has always been Gnome-based. Unity uses all of Gnome's underpinnings, or forks of the Gnome underpinnings.
 You're right, but what roadblock did they hit to dump Ubuntu's staple DE and decide to rep the Gnome?
[19:58] <maxolasersquad> The Unity desktop, at this point is iconic. Every time it's used it immediately signals that Ubuntu is being used. I'm sad to see it go.
 I can't load up the blog post atm
 So Mir, convergence and mobile are out the window I guess?
 well Mir is dead
 No
 When did Mir die? I feel like I missed something. :O
 But I've been living under a rock so maybe I have. lol
 well I hear it is dead
 Gnome is plenty good. Just surprising to hear.
 Looking forward to the next LTS.
 Also if someone could make an extension of the title bar integration with the top panel for Gnome 3 would be nice.