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| ali1234 | flocculant: if it is really hanging, then you can attach gdb to it after it hangs | 13:47 |
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| ali1234 | or strace | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | and then you can see where it happened | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | -p <pid of hung process> | 13:48 |
| knome | pleia2, we have a mail we need to reply to in the -contacts mod queue | 15:14 |
| knome | pleia2, re: hardware endorsement | 15:14 |
| flocculant | ali1234: k | 15:37 |
| flocculant | anyone with a zesty install - can you check suspend and lock please | 16:01 |
| flocculant | I'm seeing suspend come out of lock and then lock again - eg needs 2 password inputs | 16:02 |
| flocculant | lock appears to not do that here | 16:02 |
| genii | In case someone didn't see this already. https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ | 18:01 |
| ochosi | holy crap, srsly no more unity8? | 19:40 |
| knome | :) | 19:41 |
| knome | not even april fools day | 19:42 |
| ochosi | yeah, i know | 19:43 |
| knome | so re: lightdm (and why not something else), maybe it's time to start looking for some friends outside ubuntu | 20:06 |
| knome | what i mean by this that we could cooperate and focus efforts on getting $x working with xfce on all operating systems | 20:06 |
| knome | instead of trying to fix everything in an isolated environment | 20:06 |
| ochosi | getting $x? | 20:07 |
| knome | $x being lightdm, light-locker, ... | 20:08 |
| Unit193 | Well, we don't know what's all going out the door yet either. | 20:11 |
| knome | nope | 20:11 |
| knome | but there are likely other operating systems using thunar as well | 20:12 |
| knome | they don't seem to be too active with the development, but maybe we could try contacting them | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | Manjaro Xfce looks to be using LXDM. | 20:14 |
| knome | is that going to be a nogo too if/when lxde becomes lxqt? | 20:15 |
| knome | or is that project discarded? | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Install_Display_Managers see also. | 20:15 |
| knome | (lxqt) | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | lxqt is alive and "well" | 20:15 |
| ochosi | haven't heard any lxqt news in a while | 20:16 |
| knome | me neither | 20:16 |
| knome | that's why i asked... | 20:17 |
| ochosi | anyhow, no reason to freak out just yet | 20:18 |
| knome | not at all | 20:18 |
| knome | my suggestion wasn't a freak out reaction | 20:18 |
| ochosi | i wonder what the ubuntu gnome guys are thinking right now... | 20:19 |
| knome | heh. | 20:19 |
| knome | maybe they are freaking out... :P | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | the biggest problem for xubuntu will be indicators | 20:19 |
| ochosi | not just xubuntu, but yeah, us too | 20:22 |
| ochosi | we probably should fork them | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | Can't honestly maintain them though. Might be easier just to find out from someone what all Canonical is dropping. | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | would probably be easier to port the indicators over to be panel applets | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | rather than maintain the full indicator stack, which consists of lots of stuff that nobody outside of canonical seems to understand | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | would save all that trouble with upstart events to get the all running | 20:45 |
| ochosi | i think elementary also relies on them heavily | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | mmm yes, that certainly was true a few years ago | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | not sure where they are now though | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | i seem to recall they were going to drop them, or rewrite them as native plugins for their desktop, or something | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | http://elementaryos.stackexchange.com/questions/755/how-can-i-test-the-new-indicators | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | looks like they forked them | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | So, indicator-{application,sound}, but what about the base libraries? | 21:10 |
| ali1234 | looks like they still use ayatana | 21:11 |
| bluesabre | Evening all | 21:26 |
| knome | time for a polo raffle. | 21:37 |
| knome | ubottu, random dave david unit | 21:38 |
| ubottu | david | 21:38 |
| ubottu | knome: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 21:38 |
| knome | ubottu, random dave david unit | 21:38 |
| ubottu | david | 21:38 |
| knome | someone else plz | 21:38 |
| knome | ubottu, random dave david unit | 21:38 |
| ubottu | dave | 21:38 |
| knome | there we go | 21:38 |
| knome | akxwi-dave, slickymaster: you're the new happy owners of xubuntu polo shirts | 21:38 |
| knome | Unit193, and i guess you kind of got what you wanted as well... so congrats? (and sorry for the bad luck) | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | :( | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | I knew it didn't like me. | 21:39 |
| knome | maybe we'll contact the other vendor and ask for some t-shirts later :P | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | Congrats, akxwi-dave, slickymaster. | 21:40 |
| knome | pleia2, i'll check if there's any difference in shipping costs to uk/portugal (i'm guessing it's all the same for you) and confirm once i'm done. ok? :) | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | knome: sure | 21:51 |
| knome | great! | 21:53 |
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