[07:07] <SuperMatt> I'm not surprised by the news today. After it was announced that Ubuntu would be tracking gnome again, it seemed like it was a foregone conclusion. I'm a little bamboozled why it won't be default in 17.10 though - I would expect it to be tested there before becoming default in LTS
[07:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[08:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:12]  * SuperEngineer checks clock, checks window.... and agrees
[08:13] <SuperMatt> While I agree on principle that these are the facts as it stands, one should not draw attention to them, lest it tiggers a panic attack in some of the channel dwellers
[08:14] <SuperMatt> that is, please stop reminding everyone it's morning, because it's terrrible
[08:15]  * SuperEngineer withdraws comment, closes curtain, adjusts clock... and agrees, it is indeed bedtime ;-)
[08:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy New Beer's Eve! 😃 🍻
[08:21] <SuperMatt> This is the eve of new beers? What kind of beers will we get tomorrow?
[08:21] <SuperEngineer> Is it a leap beer?
[08:24] <SuperMatt> I'd rather not do any leaping while drinking my beer
[08:25] <SuperMatt> Though I would personally prefer to drink wine
[08:27] <SuperEngineer> ah, yes... wine.  The only beverage designed to allow Windows games to be played on Linux
[08:30] <brobostigon> which is also handy when cooking a ragu.
[08:30] <TwistedLucidity> SuperEngineer: It's always morning somewhere
[08:31] <TwistedLucidity> Unless you are using some badly written software, in which case it's randomly half-past last Tuesday.
[08:31] <SuperEngineer> :)
[08:31]  * TwistedLucidity thinks any coder who can't handle datetimes should have their fingers broken.
[08:32] <SuperEngineer> lol, a coder who has a date?
[08:32] <TwistedLucidity> A date. Maybe a prune.
[08:32] <SuperMatt> Alas, coding datetimes is considered one of the biggest frustrations in programming
[08:32] <SuperEngineer> surely, even coders have girlfriends
[08:32] <SuperMatt> wouldn't be a problem if all countries ditch DST
[08:33] <SuperMatt> then we could near enough half the number of timezones
[08:33] <TwistedLucidity> Some even have (shocker) boyfriends!
[08:33] <TwistedLucidity> Maybe
[08:33] <SuperMatt> I'm a Linux enthusiast, and I admit to having a wife!
[08:34] <brobostigon> my gf isnt my wife yet, :(
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> I'm not even thinking as far as DST, legislative TZ changes etc. I am thinking of fundamentally not knowing that a time offset even exists and that any time can be assumed to be local.
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> Does
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> My
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> Head
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> In
[08:35] <SuperMatt> We were watching Mr Robot the other day, and she found it so... "invigorating" that she insisted I copy the next episode on to them memory stick via command line
[08:36] <TwistedLucidity> You didn't transcode it in VLC using the ASCII filter? :-)
[08:37] <SuperMatt> naw, it was already in the correct formats, so it was just a copy
[08:37] <SuperMatt> but I did make sure to use rsync -avP so she could see the progress
[08:38] <brobostigon> i am lucky though, my gf plays D&D with me, :)
[08:38] <TwistedLucidity> Media formats is something I should understand better.
[08:39] <SuperMatt> I don't think my wife would be interested in playing D&D, though she would certainly find it "interesting" to watch a group of guys playing
[08:40] <popey> I have never played any D&D in my life
[08:40] <TwistedLucidity> Watch "The Gamers" by "Dead Gentleman productions". A delightfully terrible movie. The sequel is even better (the best actor is an artificial tree).
[08:40] <popey> would like to I think
[08:40] <brobostigon> :)
[08:40] <SuperMatt> Some people play over hangouts these days
[08:40] <popey> oh
[08:40] <TwistedLucidity> How fun it is depends on the Dungeon Master to a large extent
[08:40] <SuperMatt> No need to physically relocate
[08:41] <SuperMatt> yes indeed, the DM is the most important person
[08:41] <TwistedLucidity> Loads of gaming cafes opening up around here. Seems to be the latest craze.
[08:41] <brobostigon> TwistedLucidity: yes, to DM takes alot of poractice to get right.
[08:41] <brobostigon> practice*
[08:41] <SuperMatt> Wembley would never get something like that. If it doesn't cater to the football crowds, it's not going to get approved
[08:41] <TwistedLucidity> Because some upstart little dwarf usually wants to go off piste......
[08:41] <SuperMatt> *le sigh*
[08:42] <SuperMatt> I'm normally the upstart dwarf, and not just because I'm 5'4"
[08:43]  * brobostigon normally plays a wizard when he isnt DM'ing.
[08:43] <SuperMatt> we could do a #ubuntu-uk D&D via hangouts
[08:43] <brobostigon> human wizard*
[08:43] <brobostigon> :D
[08:44] <SuperMatt> although a simpler system might be better
[08:44] <SuperMatt> Fate is pretty good for quick games
[08:44] <SuperMatt> and it's OS
[08:44] <SuperMatt> http://www.faterpg.com/
[08:44] <brobostigon> to DM long distance like that, is doing to be very difficult.
[08:45] <SuperMatt> aahh no, all you need is a wiki/dropbox/google drive and hangouts
[08:46] <SuperMatt> ah, this is the correct site for Fate: http://www.evilhat.com/home/fate-core/
[08:51] <TwistedLucidity> RasPis, mics, TVs....could have multiple "teams"
[08:52] <SuperMatt> Why would we need the RasPis?
[08:52] <SuperMatt> All I'd need is my laptop
[08:53] <SuperMatt> it would be useful to use and IRC bot to do the dice rolls
[08:53] <TwistedLucidity> Easier to to on a TV with a group of peple I would have thought
[08:53] <SuperMatt> well, whatever step up you want in your own home is up to you
[08:54] <TwistedLucidity> Hence why I said "teams"
[08:54] <SuperMatt> I'd just be on my laptop
[08:54] <SuperMatt> Of course, the only time I have to play is on Saturday mornings
[09:08] <TwistedLucidity> Well as the g/f would also want to play D&D, collaboration with a TV might be easier. And I can sit on the couch (we have no dining table).
[09:09] <SuperMatt> fair
[09:09] <TwistedLucidity> In theory I could play in the home office, but the reason I have an office is I don't want to be in there after hours unless I absolutely have to be
[09:09] <SuperMatt> I would play on my kitchen table
[09:09] <SuperMatt> though there's no reason why I couldn't play on the tv
[09:31] <biomorph> Hi all.  I did an apt upgrade earlier this week and my wifi has gone very iffy.  I can't be the only person that this has happened to.
[09:32] <biomorph> applet says "Device not ready".  If I turn off wifi (from the applet) restart NetworkManager and re-enable wifi it works.
[09:32] <biomorph> But I have to do this at every restart.
[09:32] <biomorph> I'm using 16.04
[10:24] <SuperEngineer> Woah!  It's way past April !st, Ars Tech.... but a brilliantly funny headline even so:
[10:24] <SuperEngineer> https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/04/siime-eye-vibrator-security-issues/
[10:59] <diddledan> SuperEngineer: they've given it a thorough going-over
[11:00] <SuperEngineer> ;-)
[11:00] <diddledan> they've seen it's privates
[11:01] <SuperEngineer> they've been where no hacker dare to go before
[11:02]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if they're affected by the airplane  cabin electronics ban...
[11:06] <SuperEngineer> "volunteers wanted for security in flight testing project"
[11:06] <diddledan> lol
[11:06] <diddledan> mile high
[11:07] <diddledan> "we require security professionals for a mile high penetration test"
[11:09] <diddledan> I saw a teardown of a massager which was mains-powered. it was scary to think people put that near their thingy
[11:09]  * SuperEngineer unplugs massager
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> people injure themselves every day with zips in that area...
[11:10] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: owie!
[11:11] <zmoylan-pi> worse when afterwards they have to then open the zip to free themselves
[11:12] <diddledan> here tis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKQmBWTRnw
[11:12] <diddledan> maybe nsfw, I can't remember
[11:13] <SuperEngineer> not to sure I want to watch if that is re "zip injuries"
[11:13] <diddledan> no, that was 'the rinky pink pounder. hitachi magic wand clone "teardown"'
[11:14] <SuperEngineer> oh, in which case I'm guessing your right with nsfw
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> you were researching it for testing the mtbfs for hard drives... :-P
[11:20] <diddledan> nah, someone posted it in the freenas channel
[11:21] <diddledan> several days/weeks ago now
[11:43] <SuperEngineer> Anybody here use that thar telegram thingy?
[11:43] <SuperEngineer> [apart from the obvious]
[11:44]  * diddledan beeps in a pattern into a phoneline
[11:45] <diddledan> bip bip bip, beep beep beep, bip bip bip
[11:45] <SuperEngineer> lol
[11:45]  * zmoylan-pi whistles v.32 in response
[11:45] <diddledan> I will never understand new fangled telegrams
[11:46] <diddledan> give me pony express
[11:46]  * SuperEngineer sends fax and goes "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
[11:46] <zmoylan-pi> im is the new fad.... again... so every company has to have their foot in the water and be completely incompatible with all others
[11:46] <diddledan> what happened to XMPP is the future of all IM?
[11:47] <diddledan> even Google did XMPP for a while. they're closing it down
[11:47] <SuperEngineer> it got swallowed by YNQQ
[11:47] <zmoylan-pi> they all ignore that as they want lockin
[11:47] <diddledan> how does libpurple fare these days with the various locked-in protocols?
[11:48] <SuperEngineer> ajdfff ftg-p[dgvj' uolkhn,dd fek'd krpf['c emrmygfcdedsza\
[11:49] <SuperEngineer> [that was "ah, but you can send encrypted messages iusing trlrgram"
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> gort, klatu barada niktu - that was you wouldn't recognise klingon so i resorted to ancient meme
[11:50] <SuperEngineer> ...and you can also an arsehole complete be Telegram on
[11:50] <SuperEngineer> that "encrypted message needs no translation, but describes the current state of some the channels a lot better]
[11:51] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi: you *do* realise what you've just done, don't you?
[11:51] <zmoylan-pi> sent a large robot to look for the alien...
[11:52] <SuperEngineer> it might find me!!!!!
[11:53] <zmoylan-pi> play dead
[11:53] <SuperEngineer> then I've got the tedious job of having to save the planet - yet again
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> save the planet 5 times and get a free bagel
[11:56] <SuperEngineer> [tho might accidentally let whitehouse be the only victim - whoops, clumsy me]
[11:59] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi lies!  [either that or the bagel delivery service is complete rubbish]
[11:59] <diddledan> speaking of bagels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfs4PAF94Wg
[12:01] <SuperEngineer> "anyone want one of these?"  rofl
[12:07] <SuperEngineer> Also, on the subject of bagels: if by some strange coincidence, I was suddenly to get an urger to try out Unity8 [for absolutely no reason, you understand]...
[12:08] <SuperEngineer> would it be sufficient to simply install "Unity8 desktop session for Mir"?
[12:08] <SuperEngineer> ..& did it ever get supported by nVidia driver?
[12:10] <SuperEngineer> oh, I said "on the subject of bagels", didn't I...
[12:11] <SuperEngineer> so, if whilst eating a bagel and getting an urger to try out Unity8....
[12:11] <SuperEngineer> *urge
[12:22] <ali1234> mir doesn't support nvidia, it also doesn't support most graphics cards
[12:22] <ali1234> installing the desktop session is theoretically enough
[12:22] <ali1234> but it will only work on a handful of cards (much like wayland)
[12:24] <ali1234> last time i checked it would only work on intel HD graphics
[12:26] <diddledan> this is taking xmpp a bit strangely: http://archipelproject.org/
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: hmmmmmmmmm, not the answer I was hoping for.... but thanks for the info
[12:27] <ali1234> you're not missing much
[12:27] <diddledan> unity 8 is going away anywho
[12:27] <SuperMatt> Viva Gnome!
[12:27] <SuperEngineer> yup, I wanted to see what I what never going to be able get otherwise, curiosity.
[12:27] <diddledan> viva espana
[12:27] <SuperEngineer> viva Zipatta
[12:28] <ali1234> does anyone know if it is possible for a gnome shell extension to completely remove all the visible parts of gnome shell, and then replace them with something actually good?
[12:28] <ali1234> also, is it possible to write extensions in a language other than javascript?
[12:28] <SuperMatt> Quite interesting that none of the major distro (not including spins) decided to ship with KDE
[12:28] <ali1234> not that surprising, given how much it crashes
[12:29] <diddledan> doesn't OpenSuSE use KDE by default?
[12:29] <SuperMatt> I'm not sure
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> kde users are only happy when ignored by all the major distros... :-)
[12:29] <ali1234> yes, but opensuse is not a major distro :)
[12:29] <ali1234> opensuse is now a continuous integration system that sometimes produces a working iso
[12:29] <SuperMatt> quick! check distrowatch to see if it has a high %age
[12:30] <SuperMatt> even though we know it's a terrible metric
[12:32] <SuperEngineer> Stop knocking opensuse!  The disc once stopped my coffee table from getting stained!
[12:32] <SuperMatt> heh
[12:32] <ali1234> wait a minute
[12:33] <ali1234> i always thought SuperEngineer and SuperMatt were the same person :O
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> you ran out of aol floppies?!
[12:33] <SuperMatt> silly ali1234
[12:34] <SuperMatt> openSUSE does indeed use KDE by default
[12:34] <SuperEngineer> on the other hand... we both think you should be known as SuperAli, diddledan should be known as SuperDidd, ali1234 should be known as SuperAli.....
[12:34] <SuperMatt> agreed
[12:35]  * SuperMatt waits for the flood of name changes
[12:35] <SuperEngineer> ,..forgot; & zmoylan-pi should be known as SuperZmoy
[12:36] <SuperEngineer> we await...
[12:37] <ali1234> anyone know where i can get a set of plastic samples?
[12:37] <ali1234> different kinds of plastic that is
[12:37] <ali1234> not just 100 different colours of perspex
[12:37] <SuperMatt> plastics r us
[12:38] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: a plastics fabricator?  Surely there must be one in your region.
[12:38] <ali1234> probably but i dont know what to google for
[12:38] <ali1234> most companies seem to specialize in one type of plastic
[12:38] <SuperEngineer> k
[12:39] <ali1234> hence their sample book is "100 different colours of X"
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> are you looking for plastic for a particular task?
[12:39] <ali1234> yes
[12:40] <ali1234> i need a thin, rigid plastic that is semi-transparent, and can support a living hinge
[12:41] <ali1234> also should be neutral colour
[12:41] <SuperEngineer> mylar?
[12:41] <SuperEngineer> oh, hang on, not rigid
[12:41] <ali1234> not rigid
[12:42] <ali1234> also it must be possible to glue it, so not teflon :)
[12:42] <SuperEngineer> have you tried posting to a university research dept?
[12:43] <ali1234> no :)
[12:43] <ali1234> how would i even do that?
[12:43] <ali1234> what i need is something like the stuff they make plastic milk bottles out of
[12:43] <ali1234> but a bit thicker
[12:43] <zmoylan-pi> High Density
[12:43] <zmoylan-pi> Polyethylene
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> lists the types used in wrappings... http://www.wrap.org.uk/content/types-plastic
[12:46] <ali1234> LDPE might be better
[12:47] <ali1234> oh!
[12:47] <ali1234> "ice cream containers"
[12:47] <ali1234> yes, that's what i want
[12:47] <ali1234> that's HDPE
[12:47] <SuperEngineer> that's HOPE [pardon thwe pun]
[12:48] <ali1234> now i just need to find a 1mm sheet
[12:49] <SuperEngineer> A commercial food container from a kitchen [pub, restaurant, school]?
[12:49] <ali1234> i dont even need a big piece...
[12:52] <zmoylan-pi> i was looking for plastic a few months back.  i did find sheets down the local diy store. not cheap but you never know
[12:52] <ali1234> ebay has every type of plastic you can imagine, and cheap
[12:52] <ali1234> just a matter of finding it
[12:52] <zmoylan-pi> thing about diy store is you can have a good poke
[12:57] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi: it's a good job I have perfectly innocent mindset tucked in this skull
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> it's the one in the tupperware in the freezer we worry about...
[12:58] <SuperEngineer> hurumph
[14:53] <foobarry> finding myself refreshing all the social medias in order to find a snippet more info about the ubuntu announcement. but there isn't any
[15:01] <SuperMatt> Phoronix has said that half the unity 8 team have been laid off
[15:02] <SuperMatt> I guess it may come down to running low on funds to continue inventing new things that weren't gaining traction
[15:15] <foobarry> the other half diverted to making ubuntu great again?
[15:17] <SuperEngineer> Yea gads, you should see the idiots on telegram channel discussing this... it ain't pretty
[15:19] <foobarry> can i see that in a browser?
[15:19] <foobarry> or do i not want to?
[15:20] <SuperEngineer> you don't want to
[15:21] <SuperEngineer> you have better things do do with your life
[15:21] <ali1234> i dont
[15:21] <ali1234> is it worth going to troll them?
[15:21] <SuperEngineer> these are not the droids you are looking for
[15:22] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: yes, it would be fun
[15:22] <foobarry> so telegram is slack for opensource?
[15:22] <popey> i guess.
[15:22] <foobarry> or is more like whatsapp?
[15:22] <popey> that
[15:23] <ali1234> rocketchat is opensource slack
[15:23] <foobarry> i do indeed have better things to do
[15:23] <foobarry> even on my day off
[15:23] <diddledan> I don't get when ubuntu-related stuff should be on the rocketchat instance or on irc
[15:23] <diddledan> (yes, there is an ubuntu rocketchat instance!)
[15:24] <diddledan> see: https://rocket.ubuntu.com/
[15:25] <SuperEngineer> popey, would it be insensitive to say that I hope your day hasn't been too much pile-of-poo-like
[15:25] <diddledan> how is wishing someone well ever going to be insensitive?
[15:26] <diddledan> popey: we wub j00
[15:28] <popey> i can imagine other people have worse
[15:28] <SuperEngineer> nods
[15:29]  * diddledan cuddles the pope
[15:30] <diddledan> hmm, was that the wrong pontification?
[15:30]  * diddledan hugs the popey too
[15:32] <diddledan> wat: "The International Monetary Fund (IMF) Investigation Department Washington DC is here by to inform you that  we recently received several reports through our Global surveillance network that your transaction has failed to be successful after diverse efforts because the offices and individuals involved has made it a swindle opportunity hence they
[15:32] <diddledan> continue to demand for money without substantial reasons."
[15:32] <diddledan> "Consequently this esteemed office has today recuperated your funds valued the sum of £5,000.000.00 (Five million pounds) from the erratic custody, meanwhile if you noticed any change of amount or value it’s rather as a result of the false information you have been fed or imparted by those hoodlums."
[15:32] <diddledan> don't you love these spams?!
[15:32] <diddledan> those hoodlums!!
[15:42] <diddledan> this guy has a strange approach: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2017-April/017379.html
[15:42] <diddledan> notably the statement: "If I get support, I'll consider publishing code of linux-purge"
[15:43] <diddledan> he got called on it several months ago iirc
[16:02] <m0nkey_> lol
[16:03] <m0nkey_> This line kills me "You can donate to me on my homepage now."
[16:06] <foobarry> autoremove seems to achieve this already
[16:06]  * SuperEngineer creates home page - waits for donations
[16:06] <foobarry> my xbox360 is dying :(
[16:06] <diddledan> SuperEngineer: I donated goodwill
[16:06] <foobarry> family rely on it for watching amazon/netflix/plex
[16:07] <diddledan> :-o
[16:07] <foobarry> i will donate free advice to the guy
[16:07] <diddledan> xbox360. dead.!?!
[16:07] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLzC3nPhUEM
[16:10] <foobarry> it freezes after a short while.
[16:10] <foobarry> gonna try to open it up and hoover it again but i fear it is shagged
[16:11] <SuperEngineer> check if there's anythinng that do with a reseat while you're dust blasting it
[16:11] <SuperEngineer> *could do with
[16:12] <SuperEngineer> ... & use the blowing end of the hoover. not the sucking end!
[16:13] <SuperEngineer> failing all else - put it back together and give it a good old fashioned slap on the head
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> it'll hurt your hand but may "reseat" the thingy whatsit that needed reseating
[16:15] <SuperEngineer> if all that fails... it's memory may be a teency weency bit suspect
[16:16]  * diddledan reseats SuperEngineer
[16:16] <diddledan> quite hard
[16:17] <SuperEngineer> ouch! not *that* hard
[16:20] <ali1234> whats linux-purge?
[16:24] <SuperEngineer> a kernel remove script???
[16:26] <SuperEngineer> a replacement for prunes???
[16:26] <diddledan> ali1234: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-May/016574.html
[16:26] <diddledan> continued at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-October/017000.html
[16:27] <diddledan> and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-September/016954.html
[16:28] <foobarry> SuperEngineer: i think its a cooling issue or needs some fresh thermal paste on the chips
[16:31] <SuperEngineer> foobarry: feel free to hit anyway, it may not help the 360 but it'll make you feel good
[16:31] <foobarry> i call it an xbox, its a skyrim box
[16:32] <foobarry> so, has anyone actually tried maru OS?
[16:33] <foobarry> precious little on youtubes
[16:55] <KnightW0rk> evening
[17:29] <diddledan> does anyone use a cow orking space? I'm wondering whether the cows are provided or if you need to take your own :-p
[17:36] <DJones_> diddledan: Whats a "orking space"?
[17:36] <diddledan> DJones_: where one orks
[17:37] <diddledan> specifically in this case, orking of cows
[17:39] <DJones_> I don't even want to think what that involves
[17:39] <foobarry> http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/06/broadcom-wifi-vulnerability-allows-remote-code-execution-affects-almost-android-devices/
[17:39] <diddledan> \o/
[17:40] <diddledan> so much fun
[17:40] <diddledan> there was an iOS version of that a few days ago
[17:41] <diddledan> it might not be the same vuln but similar in that the wifi was allowing remote code exec
[18:18] <diddledan> is your mainframe leaking memory like a sieve? you need Visual COBOL: https://www.microfocus.com/products/visual-cobol/visual-cobol-for-visual-studio/
[18:19] <zmoylan-pi> is it available on punch cards?
[18:22] <foobarry> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/06/canonical_cuts_jobs_with_unity_bullet/
[18:22] <diddledan> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/lego-macintosh-classic-raspberry-pi/
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> [6~
[18:29] <zmoylan-pi> sorry... just testing my falling asleep at the keyboard warning... :-P
[18:39] <diddledan> this case is too small: https://i.redd.it/71nt7zdd8yoy.png
[18:41] <zmoylan-pi> line the rest with cardboard for your cats nuclear bunker...
[19:02] <diddledan> I've seen it all now: https://www.facebook.com/GameSpot/posts/10158552160725436
[19:09] <zmoylan-pi> you've had access to the internet for how many years now? :-P
[21:31] <diddledan> am I crazy to consider writing a FUSE applet?
[21:35] <daftykins> that hot plug file system handling malarkey?
[21:35] <diddledan> yup
[21:35] <diddledan> filesystem in userspace
[21:35] <daftykins> "e" :D
[21:36] <daftykins> my cat Mischief is abusing a fly that flew in earlier today
[21:36] <diddledan> \o/
[21:36] <diddledan> gotta love fly abuse
[21:36] <daftykins> doin' her job at last
[21:38] <daftykins> diddledan: oh i suppose you're still insider-ing but the new official build of 10 came out yesterday via the download tool
[21:38] <diddledan> yup
[21:38] <daftykins> already updated a couple of victims
[21:38] <diddledan> did they die?
[21:38] <daftykins> newp, all good - although the little things that get reset irritate mildly :P
[21:38] <daftykins> e.g. my mapped drives get renamed! gasp!
[21:39] <brobostigon> 1or did they smef? :)
[21:39] <daftykins> what language is that? :D
[21:39] <brobostigon> smef = spontanious massive existence failiure,
[21:40] <brobostigon> douglas adams/terry jones.
[21:40] <diddledan> oh no, not again
[21:40] <brobostigon> :)
[21:43] <daftykins> how to not get anything done - https://www.dropbox.com/s/jlh6pujnlxws760/IMG_20170406_171201.jpg?dl=0
[21:43] <daftykins> the two little terrorists followed me in the room
[21:52] <diddledan> sleepy time methinks
[21:53]  * diddledan knackered
[21:53] <daftykins> g'night sir