| OvenWerks | krytarik: done. I shold have added to the comment that this fixes lp: #1672412 | 17:27 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1672412 in wine-development (Ubuntu) "FFe: Merge wine 2.0-4 and wine-development 2.4-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672412 | 17:27 |
| OvenWerks | Or allows anyway. | 17:27 |
| OvenWerks | also lp: #1182604 | 17:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1182604 in lmms (Ubuntu) "AMD64 lmms package doesn't have Vestige VST support while the i386 does" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182604 | 17:28 |
| OvenWerks | well not really, it fixes it for us though :) | 17:29 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: the whole windows vst (as compared to lxvst) thing is a mess. There are at least 4 kinds of windows vsts floating around that are not mutually compatible | 17:31 |
| OvenWerks | So far as I know, lmms supports only 32 bit vst2s. The GPLed vst3 headers have just within the past month been released although vst3s have been around for a while. | 17:32 |
| OvenWerks | there are also 64bit win vsts which will not work already with lmms... I am not sure of the state of wine with 64bit binaries either. I do know some work has been done though. | 17:34 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: so the end of this is that lmms at best only supports 1 kind of winvst out of 4. I don't expect lmms to include vst3 or 64bit code real soon now as the lead dev has left and there is some dissarry in the project. I do not think it will die, it seems those left are still well involved, but it may take some time to move forward again. | 17:36 |
| OvenWerks | there is also the deal of lmms including support for LV2 which I would think is more important right now. | 17:37 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: something to look for next cycle is that in debian jack-tools has been renamed to jack-plumbing. Not in ubuntu ... yet, but we would want this package whatever the name. | 18:28 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: 1.) Thanks for the commit, let's see if it works. 2.) Thanks for the verbose extra info. :) 3.) I only see an executable called jack-plumbing, in the jack-tools package; and that's at the same version in Debian and Ubuntu. | 19:37 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: "I think the meta packages have to be regenerated to go with it" - luckily not in this case. | 19:46 |
| OvenWerks | cool. I have sent some emails as well, so that others can know why | 19:56 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: Well, that didn't work. | 20:45 |
| OvenWerks | What did it do? I haven't seen failed emails yet. | 20:46 |
| krytarik | I mean it still pulls the Wine stuff. | 20:47 |
| OvenWerks | That is normally the effect of not rebuilding the metas | 20:47 |
| OvenWerks | did it pull in lmms-vst-server? | 20:48 |
| krytarik | Yes. | 20:49 |
| OvenWerks | So our understanding of how to do things is flawed. | 20:49 |
| krytarik | No, just blacklisting more often doesn't work than it does. | 20:50 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: So I suggest for now you just ACK the Wine FFe, and then we'll have to see later. | 20:53 |
| OvenWerks | Hmm, I may have to try a 32 bit install | 20:53 |
| OvenWerks | Then I can lookup reverse deps | 20:53 |
| OvenWerks | I did I think | 21:06 |
| * OvenWerks hopes his comment was clear | 21:06 | |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: maybe if we blacklist wine as well? | 21:07 |
| OvenWerks | (we may have to blacklist specific wine as well) | 21:07 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: after looking at my last few lines of comment :P I did leave a comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine-development/+bug/1672412 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1672412 in wine-development (Ubuntu) "FFe: Merge wine 2.0-4 and wine-development 2.4-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:09 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: Yes, figured I'll just reload the bug report page and see if you added one there. :P Also, one thing we could still try is to blacklist it the way Kubuntu did it just recently: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.zesty/revision/1358 - and in that context, we might blacklist that one right away too, even though the package doesn't exist in the repos ... | 21:16 |
| krytarik | ... yet. | 21:16 |
| krytarik | lol | 21:16 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: I can do that, but I am pretty sure it would require a meta rebuild to work. | 21:18 |
| krytarik | Nope, that one neither. | 21:19 |
| OvenWerks | I am guessing it needs to come before lmms itself | 21:22 |
| OvenWerks | So the two lines are: | 21:23 |
| OvenWerks | * !lmms-vst-server | 21:23 |
| OvenWerks | * (lmms) | 21:23 |
| krytarik | Yup, that's sensible. | 21:24 |
| OvenWerks | commited please check | 21:25 |
| OvenWerks | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.zesty/revision/1506 | 21:27 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: if that doesn't work we will put it just after. I am not sure of the logic, but programacically it would be easier to remove a program from the list after it has been added rather than saving the name to check each new adition against... | 21:29 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: the network-manager-config-connectivity package is troublesome also because low latency audio operation is sensitive to network activity. | 21:33 |
| krytarik | Well, following the 'above' logic, you should have done the same for the NM one too - but as I was about to say, I'd have to look at the code of germinate again to confirm either way. | 21:35 |
| krytarik | Ah, good to know. | 21:36 |
| krytarik | OvenWerks: So looks like it doesn't really matter in what order they are - https://git.launchpad.net/germinate/tree/germinate/germinator.py Also, I'd suggest we do a respin now, since it's RC day. | 23:23 |
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