[14:48] <xubuntu17i> helo
[14:49] <xubuntu17i> ill have to say irc chat while installing is a good idea :D
[18:46] <rauldux> Hey there, on my xubuntu 16.04 the network connection icon on systray appears in two different ways. sometimes it's two arrows and sometimes it's the 'wifi-bars'. well network works fine anyway, I'm just wondering why this happens. Any experience on that 'issue'?
[18:48] <NEETWizard> test
[18:50] <NEETWizard> I'm trying to set up an old Wacom drawing tablet in Xubuntu, mapping it to only 1 monitor. I found info on that, but it doesn't work. found other people ran into same problem. error: Unable to find an output 'DVI-I-1'. I'm wondering if it's because they're offset in position to each other virtually.
[18:52] <NEETWizard> They tried .... a convolution matrix but still no luck. I haven't tried that myself yet.
[18:52] <stevehope> whats the setting / app for Passwords and Encryption Keys in Xubuntu?
[18:54] <diogenes_> passwords for browsers?
[18:54] <stevehope> ssl and gpg
[18:54] <NEETWizard> Hmmmm... well aligning the tops of the monitors together didn't make it work for: xsetwacom --set 10 MapToOutput "DVI-I-1"
[18:54] <stevehope> is there an appelt in the gui or is it cli only
[18:54] <diogenes_> I know there's seahorse gnome-keyring
[18:55] <stevehope> gnome-keyring is the equivalent or what i was looking for thanks
[18:55] <NEETWizard> doesn't work for this command either: xsetwacom set "Wacom Intuos 6x8 Pen stylus" MapToOutput DVI-I-1
[18:55] <stevehope> *of
[18:55] <diogenes_> stevehope, you can always type in terminal: apropos password
[18:56] <NEETWizard> xrandr gives me a screen DVI-I-1, so I don't know why it doesn't like that.
[18:58] <diogenes_> NEETWizard, did you look in man xrandr?
[18:59] <NEETWizard> diogenes_, hm. nope. I'm a little retarded. not sure how much that'll help but I'll check.
[18:59] <NEETWizard> I was just looking to identify the display name, like these websites say. yeah.
[19:00] <diogenes_> NEETWizard, run in terminal: man xranrd and read read read
[19:01] <NEETWizard> diogenes_, but I don't want to change anything with xrandr. it's xsetwacom that needs to do that, I'm think.
[19:03] <diogenes_> NEETWizard, when you want to fix a motorcycle engine you have to know what does every single component do, otherwise you screw it up
[19:05] <NEETWizard> diogenes_, I think that's relative. Maybe you can't afford to trust someone just because they're a mechanic, but maybe in some circumstances that analogy does hold, in that you ... relegate expertise and find someone trustworthy.
[19:06] <diogenes_> the best work is the one done by yourself
[19:07] <NEETWizard> Sure, you're likely to create poison gas if you ask 4chan how to make crystals with pennies, but it's probably easier to tell if official Ubuntu forums are spreading misinformation with commands that will destroy your computer.
[19:09] <NEETWizard> I'm a barely-functioning human being who's suffering from chronic depression. I'm trying to get back into art. I already quit for a few weeks when I couldn't figure out how to use this new Ubuntu drawing software compared to the old Photoshop I used ages ago for Windows. I'm not going to spend a month learning my monitor and tablet from the smallest hardware and software bit.
[19:10] <diogenes_> NEETWizard, try chess for relaxing and offloading the stress
[19:10] <NEETWizard> maybe I can get around this whole problem by temporarily disconnecting one monitor... going back to "the botnet" AKA Windows is a last resort.
[19:22] <NEETWizard> hm. maybe it has something to do with this wacom driver I installed being for Gnome and I'm using XFCE? the tablet works, just that it's stretching over both monitors.
[19:23] <NEETWizard> I was only going to stay up another hour to work on this, but I haven't accomplished anything. I wonder if I deserve the chocolate muffin I promised myself for working for an hour. it was work. :|
[19:23] <flocculant> NEETWizard: yes you deserve it :)
[19:26] <diogenes_> NEETWizard, I have been working for the past 3 days trying to get a scanner to work and two days to make an automatic shortuc but in the end I did succeed
[19:26] <diogenes_> so don't give up
[19:29] <NEETWizard> hm. like I said, I'm kinda retarded. I tried to get back into programming last year and spent a month trying to get an old clock I did in C++ redone in HTML+CSS+JS. and being NEET, I had a lot of time to waste on that.
[19:30] <NEETWizard> The world's not good at teaching you how to live. I'm having to dig through the muck of people like PUAs to find out how to function. I think I'm gonna run out of time though. Mine's half over on average.
[19:31] <diogenes_> carpe diem
[19:32] <NEETWizard> My trajectory would suggest that is unlikely. We'll see.
[19:32] <flocculant> NEETWizard: instead of doing xsetwacom --set 10 MapToOutput "DVI-I-1" have you tried setting geometry instead of monitor?
[19:33] <flocculant> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wacom_Tablet#TwinView_Setup look for xsetwacom --set 12 MapToOutput "1920x1080+1920+0" on that page
[19:33] <NEETWizard> flocculant, I have not tried that. I suppose it's worth a try. though I mentioned the one person I found having these problems wasn't able to fix it by that method.
[19:34] <flocculant> ok - what I've read points to it being fun with tablet and Xfce and multi-monitors
[19:35] <flocculant> but not something I've ever needed to do personally
[19:38] <flocculant> NEETWizard: anyway - good luck, if you get nowhere maybe think about trying eithr xfce forum or ubuntuforum for help - not sure pointing to #ubuntu in this case will help
[19:39] <NEETWizard> Alright, thanks again.
[19:41] <flocculant> anyone use mpd and .mpdignore - wanting to ignore a filetype, adding the file to parent directory as it's manual suggests and using wildcards doesn't appear to be working
[19:42] <diogenes_> what you try to do?
[19:43] <flocculant> put the .mpdignore file in the parent directory with *.mp3 as the wildcard to ignore
[19:43] <flocculant> assumption being the parent directory it talks about is the parent directory that the media is in
[19:44] <diogenes_> never tried that
[19:52] <flocculant> seems parent directory is folder with the files in - not doing that here
[21:58] <phunyguy> hi.... got a weird one... not sure if it is because I did a debootstrap install of xubuntu, but I can't configure any indicator applets, like Time and Date settings...  I click it and nothing happens.   Am I missing a package or two? Thanks.   (16.04.2)
[22:01] <Unit193> phunyguy: For Date and Time, do you have gnome-system-tools installed?
[22:13] <phunyguy> Unit193: yes
[22:14] <phunyguy> it seems anything that would use that tool is not working, however
[22:14] <phunyguy> lightlocker-settings, etc
[22:15] <phunyguy> Unit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24330505/
[22:17] <phunyguy> hmm that appears to be a different issue which I just resolved.
[22:17] <Unit193> python-gi or so for that, it'd seem.  You can try to simulate installing the task and see what it'd pull in.
[22:20] <phunyguy> yeah reinstalling that fixed light-locker-settings
[22:21] <phunyguy> still nothing on time/date settings, which I cannot seem to find a way to launch from CLI to get an error
[22:21] <phunyguy> also, some qt applications aren't following the proper icon theme (in and out of tray/indicator)
[22:23] <phunyguy> Unit193: here is what I mean on that last comment, note the transmission and transmission-qt icons. One is stock ugly transmission icon, and one is proper. http://i.imgur.com/CEeKDA2.png
[22:23] <phunyguy> also nextcloud icon is stock, not the one from the theme (Numix)
[22:24] <phunyguy> Numix-Circle*
[22:26] <Unit193> phunyguy: `/usr/bin/time-admin`, and you'll have to check Qt settings, for Qt4 then the Qt4 application, for Qt5 (depending on which version that was), you'll need an env var that should be set from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/56xubuntu-session
[22:31] <phunyguy> hm
[22:32] <Unit193> You are in the Xubuntu session, I've been presuming...
[22:32] <phunyguy> Unit193: /usr/bin/time-admin works from cli  ><
[22:32] <phunyguy> Unit193: yea
[22:32] <Unit193> OK, because that and other things are guarded by that fact.
[22:33] <phunyguy> Unit193: export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk ?
[22:33] <phunyguy> no wonder qt5ct complains