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dreamcat4hi there. as a new user installing 16.04 today, is there any difference installing 'ubuntu-gnome' iso, vs installing the official ubuntu + then the metapackage 'ubuntu-gnome-desktop' ontop of a standard installation?10:28
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borisetoHi, I've installed the gnome desktop to test it cause I havent used it at all (with the news flying around, yeah) and I kinda made it look the way I wanted. When I tried using the gdm3 instead of lightdm, it gives me the login screen, but when entering my credentials it gives me a blank screen and nothing loads (noticed it switches to some of the ttys between 1,2 and 3.11:23
borisetoWhen trying going to the tty7 (the GUI one) it just gives me the login screen again. Any ideas how to fix it? I've reconfigured it already to use lightdm but I like the gdm more so just checking if somebody can guide me through this.11:23
jbichadreamcat4: well the difference is that you have all the Unity-related packages installed too11:54
jbichaboriseto: which version of Ubuntu are you using?11:55
dreamcat4ok thanks jbicha12:05
borisetojbicha: 16.04.212:17
borisetoI would have installed freshly Ubuntu Gnome, but I'm on using this machine since 14.04 and haven't reinstalled yet since everything (but the gdm) works fine12:18
jbichaboriseto: what graphics driver are you using?12:18
borisetomesa 17 (from ubuntu repo) intel+radeon12:18
jbichaCould you file a bug please? I had one other person that says radeon won't work for him with gdm with 17.04 but I couldn't get him to file a bug yet :(12:20
borisetojbicha: sure. can you point me where? :) sorry for my newbness :)12:21
jbicharun the command ubuntu-bug gdm312:22
borisetogot it12:22
jbichaI'd also like to know as much information as possible about your graphics card12:23
jbichaOne hack is to file a second bug, just run ubuntu-bug and choose to file a Display bug12:24
jbichawe can then mark that second bug as a duplicate of the gdm3 bug since the second bug will have the graphical info attached12:24
borisetogenerating the second one atm12:25
borisetohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/168082612:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1680826 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "GDM shows and when trying to log in to gnome session blank screen appears" [Undecided,New]12:27
borisetojbicha: the one about the gpu hanged a bit. :)12:28
borisetojbicha: here is the second one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/168083212:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1680832 in xorg (Ubuntu) "GDM3 info for other bug" [Undecided,New]12:34
jbichaboriseto: thank you!12:38
borisetojbicha: thank you. :)12:39
darkxsthey jbicha12:50
jbichadarkxst: good evening12:51
darkxstwhat day suits you for a meeting?12:53
borisetojust noticed. when pressing the screenshot button, it will "take a screenshot" but the screenshot gui app to save the img doesn't appear. is this a normal behaviour?12:54
darkxstboriseto, its always been like that in gnome-shell12:54
jbichadarkxst: any day is fine but I assume it would want to be M-F?12:55
darkxstit just saves the image to your "Pictures"12:55
jbichaI have to step out for 15 min…12:55
borisetodarkxst: oh, didn't know that. thanks12:55
darkxstjbicha, k12:55
darkxstjbicha, if we went 7am my time would that work for you? assuming will agrees?12:57
darkxstI'll just steal the board room if so12:59
jbichaback13:13
jbichadarkxst: you're Australian Eastern, right?13:13
jbichathat time's great for me too13:15
jbichaby the way, gnome-games-app just landed in unstable and zesty; there's a bit of integration work needed in other unseeded universe packages if people actually want to use retro games with it13:19
jbichaI think there's just enough time to get that work done13:19
darkxstjbicha, yes GMT+1013:23
darkxstjbicha, I dont have time for games, but will try and look at the language stuff13:26
darkxstthough at this point looks like I will be spending the weekend writing web api's13:26
darkxstfor work13:26
darkxstand not getting paid other than time off in lieu13:27
jbichait's fine, I'm working on the games part13:27
jbicha:(13:27
darkxstbut I will get a longer easter from it :)13:27
darkxstmaybe13:28
borisetoI hope i'm not bugging you too much, but any idea why qbittorrent won't show in tray?13:29
darkxstboriseto, legacy tray bottom left of screen?13:37
darkxstjbicha, will is delaying meeting13:37
jbichaok, I'm sure he and the other managers are very busy right now13:38
darkxstyep, he just lost about half is team I am guessing13:39
jbicha:(13:41
darkxstI don't really get that part, streamlining for investors14:07
darkxstbut its a private company14:08
darkxstguess he has run out of money14:08
borisetodarkxst: yeah14:09
darkxstIoT is a world of dreams, no one is dealing with the issues14:11
dsynapsegreetings14:47
dsynapseI have a fairly fresh install of Ubuntu 16.10 on my desktop (nvidia 960 graphics card).  I swapped in Cinnamon but I would like to "see the light" again and go back to gnome.  I installed gnome-shell from the stock repos but when I login, icons are the correct size, but the borders of everything and window decoration, gnome-shell overlay, etc. are HUGE14:49
dsynapseI have a higher resolution monitor (2k) but usually in the past "it just worked"?  What can I do / where to look so I can fix that?14:49
jbichadsynapse: file a bug with screenshots14:49
dsynapsenoob question...  where can I file a bug?14:50
jbichalet's start with running this command:14:50
jbichaubuntu-bug gnome-shell14:50
jbichadarkxst: if you're still up: https://plus.google.com/+MarkShuttleworthCanonical/posts/7LYubpaHUHH14:51
dsynapsejbicha:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/168088015:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1680880 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-Shell large window borders" [Undecided,New]15:15
dsynapsejbicha:  and attached a screenshot15:18
laserbeak4445Wow! Mark Shuttleworth just annonced on G+ that Canonical will invest in Ubuntu GNOME.16:46
laserbeak4445for more info:16:46
laserbeak4445https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/640wfy/mark_shuttleworth_on_g_we_will_invest_in_ubuntu/16:46
laserbeak4445The thing I like the most about this is that it wants to keep the real GNOME experience and work for a better integration and experience.16:54
laserbeak4445So unless I mistaken, this means this flavor will become vanilla Ubuntu. :)16:55
glemsomI gave the latest beta of ubuntu gnome 17.04 a go... it seems it's impossible to focus windows atm. Anyone else seen this ?17:07
jbichaglemsom: please file a bug17:07
jbichaand try restarting?17:08
glemsomI did try and restart, and I tried wiping most of my configuration.. Just to check if it was some theme thingy... Though, I'm not entirely sure I got everything wiped correctly :)17:08
glemsomI'll go get xfce4 for the time being then, to file a bug... :)17:11
jbichahmm, ok17:13
tgm4883Is there a way to change the on-screen keyboard? Ideally, I'd like a split keyboad so that I can type good enough with my thumbs while holding my tablet20:27
jbichatgm4883: what version are you using? do you know what on-screen keyboard you are using?20:33
tgm4883jbicha: 17.04 and the default? I just installed ubuntu-gnome 2 days ago20:34
tgm4883caribou?20:35
tgm4883Is that an onscreen keyboard? I see packages for libcaribou that say it's the on screen keyboard20:35
jbichatgm4883: try installing gnome-shell-extension-onboard and enabling it in Tweak Tool20:36
jbichait doesn't support Wayland yet and it has a few other deficiencies but it's a lot more flexible than caribou20:36
tgm4883doing it now20:36
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jbichadarkxst: I dropped slack from our channel topic since honestly we're not using it much now20:42
tgm4883jbicha: this is looking much better. Doesn't have the layout I'm looking for but it seems I'm able to edit it somehow. Off to research that, thanks20:44
jbichatgm4883: if the developers can figure out how to get it to work on Wayland, we might add it to the default install20:48
tgm4883jbicha: That would be sweet, I've only used it for about 2 minutes now, but it's a much better keyboard20:49
tgm4883jbicha: before I go though the effort of making my own keyboard layout, do you know of any layout repositories?20:51
jbichano, you can try asking the Onboard developers20:52
tgm4883will do, thanks again20:53

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