[06:15] <amish> can someone help me with my amd graphics card
[06:15] <amish> ?
[06:23] <amish> looks like this channel is inactive
[06:23] <alkisg> amish: be more specific
[06:23] <alkisg> !ask
[06:24] <alkisg> Also, in IRC you might get answers after hours or even days
[06:24] <alkisg> !patience
[06:24] <amish> ok thanks for the response
[06:24] <amish> actually, this is my issue:
[06:25] <amish> I have a laptop with intel core i3 + amd radeon r5 m330
[06:25] <amish> I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.04
[06:26] <amish> I am not able to use the amd card for games. Only intel driver runs
[06:27] <amish> xserver-xorg-video-ati is installed
[06:27] <alkisg> OK. Note that if the problem isn't specific to mate, then it might be best to ask in #ubuntu, as more users are there; but of course you can ask here too.
[06:27] <alkisg> Now wait for possible answers; I can't help you because I'm not using proprietary drivers
[06:28] <amish> suggestion taken
[06:28] <amish> ok
[06:28] <amish> by the way I do not need proprietery drivers
[06:29] <amish> I need open source drivers to use the amd card
[06:29] <amish> it only uses intel card currently
[06:33] <Astro7467> I have an AMD R480 installed currently and I see 3 potential 'drivers' related to ur card amish
[06:34] <Astro7467> xserver-xorg-video-{amdgpu,ati,radeon}-hwe-16.04
[06:34] <amish> can you elaborate
[06:35] <amish> should I just install  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-16.04 from synaptic?
[06:36] <Astro7467> I'm currently not in a position to research it, but depending on age, ur card would use 1 of those three - amdgpu being the latest
[06:36] <Astro7467> there is info on the correct driver on the amd site from memory
[06:37] <Astro7467> the 'hwe' is the hardware-enablement pack - which is newer drivers - there are other dependencies
[06:37] <Astro7467> xserver-xorg-video-all-hwe-16.04/xenial-updates
[06:37] <Astro7467> these are part of 16.04.2 - inc kernel and xorg changes
[06:40] <amish> sorry got disconnected by mistake
[06:54] <amish> I dont see my card listed in any  xserver-xorg-video-{amdgpu,ati,radeon}-hwe-16.04 in the synaptics package descriptions
[06:55] <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA => this only lists one card?
[06:56] <amish> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b)
[06:56] <amish> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [103c:80c4]
[06:56] <amish> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[06:57] <alkisg> If it only lists one card, then maybe you need to go to your bios settings and enable the other card
[06:57] <alkisg> At least that was the case when I was last trying multiple cards; but this was before optimus
[06:58] <amish> ok. I am going to bios and check if I can find that setting. BTW I was able to use amd card using bumblebee when I was using Manjaro
[07:11] <amish> there was no option for graphics card in bios
[07:13] <alkisg> amish: if you were able to make it work in manjaro, check the related kernel/xorg versions, and try to find an ubuntu version with similar kernel/xorg
[07:14] <amish> in Manjaro, bumblebee supports both amd and nvidia cards
[07:15] <amish> probably, it supports only amd cards in ubuntu
[07:15] <amish> i dont know why
[07:17] <alkisg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59044/bumblebee-and-amd-radeon-cards
[07:18] <alkisg> There they say that it's only for nvidia, while for ati they suggest fglrx
[07:18] <alkisg> I think fglrx isn't available in 16.04 though
[07:18] <alkisg> So you might want to try 14.04 instead
[07:18] <alkisg> You can also ask in #ubuntu-x. The people there will definately know; but they may answer in ..monday :D
[07:19] <amish> :(
[07:19] <amish> I like 16.04...
[09:37] <chr1ss> hallöli, jemmand deutsches da? ;)
[09:38] <chr1ss> habe probleme mit trafficserver programm konfiguration, aus der fehlermeldung werd ich nicht schlau, falls wer erfahrung hat pls msg me
[09:51] <ouroumov_> !de | chr1ss
[10:38] <chr1ss> kay thx
[10:38] <chr1ss> i can speak eng too... but is more like engrish
[10:38] <chr1ss> xdxd
[11:08] <fernando> hola
[12:10] <erwin> hello, I just did a clean install of the UbuntuMate 16.0.2 image on a raspberrypi3. Direct after install I tried to do updates (216MB). However I get an error, the root / disk is about 4 MB too small to do the update. Any suggestions, other than use gparted to enlarge the root partition? ( I tried that also, however there i get an error because the extra space that i allocated can't be used).
[12:12] <ouroumov_> hello erwin. This issue has been widely reported on our forums: https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[12:16] <erwin> ok I will try to find this there. Thanks for the reply.
[13:07] <lime_> about to boot  this on a powerbook g4
[13:08] <lime_> just got it in the mail
[14:52] <DarkPsydeLord> lol from resbaloso to turroncito how are those related from slimy to sweet
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[16:33] <jarco_> Hello, Does ubuntu mate support uefi, I just created a usb with ubuntu mate on it but I cant seem to find the efi folder
[16:47] <Akuli> jarco_, it should, how are you booting from the stick?
[16:49] <Artemis3> jarco_, 64bit, should work if you dd the iso into the thumbdrive
[16:49] <jarco_> I just want to alter the efi files to be able to boot from a 32 bit uefi, but the efi files are not in the image
[16:50] <jarco_> I did the 32 bit image tho
[16:50] <jarco_> So thats probably it
[16:50] <jarco_> its a pavilion x2 tablet
[16:50] <jarco_> it doesnt have fancy 64 bit uefi, So I am trying to add that myself
[16:52] <Artemis3> isn't this tablet 64 bit?
[16:52] <jarco_> yes it is
[16:52] <jarco_> but the uefi is not
[16:52] <Artemis3> ugh
[16:52] <jarco_> idd!
[16:52] <jarco_> If I had known ...
[16:53] <jarco_> there are workarounds
[16:53] <jarco_> but they are insanely hard for a noob like me
[16:53] <Artemis3> hmm seems someone did an iso for debian
[16:53] <jarco_> I almost managed to get arch running, Almost, untill i couldn't find initramfs on the image anymore :D
[16:53] <jarco_> yes debian works
[16:53] <jarco_> BUT, it has next to no support for the hardware
[16:54] <Artemis3> tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[16:55] <jarco_> Not yet
[16:56] <jarco_> I am currently trying to write my own efi config
[16:56] <jarco_> and then make grub upgrade it to 64 bit
[16:56] <jarco_> this solution seems to do something similar
[16:57] <jarco_> But I would prefer mate instead of ubuntu itself, actually I would prefer antergos, but ubuntu mate seems cool to. I like the work wimpy puts in it a lot so I am trying to give it a go
[16:58] <Artemis3> well switching is simple, and if you can manage to install mini.iso even better, not sure its possible
[16:58] <Artemis3> need one of those to try...
[16:59] <Akuli> jarco_, just install the normal ubuntu and switch to mate, or use an mini.iso like Artemis3 suggested :)
[17:00] <Artemis3> if you can make mini.iso basic text installed, its a simple apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop
[17:00] <jarco_> Akuli, isn't it a huge overhead in ubuntu when you install another desktop? Last time I tried (about 8 years ago), they where meta packages that drew in gigs and gigs of stuff. I only have 32 gb harddrive in that thing :)
[17:01] <Artemis3> the instructions can probably be adapted for mate anyway
[17:01] <Akuli> jarco_, i have never had trouble with that, if you do just ask someone with an ubuntu mate to check which packages they have and get rid of everytihng else :)
[17:01] <Artemis3> depending on the method you end using
[17:01] <jarco_> Also I first want to have it booted live to see if it actually has drivers for everything (or, the important stuff)
[17:01] <Artemis3> reading from forum posts...
[17:01] <Akuli> ubuntu's instructions should work great on ubuntu mate too though
[17:01] <Akuli> the desktop is just one tiny tip of the iceberg
[17:02] <jarco_> Yeah It will probably work out. I was just puzzled by the missing efi folder
[17:02] <Artemis3> "I got Ubuntu 16.04.1 running on it, and this works quite well. (Had to create a custom USB bootstick, described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support). Also no luck for sound. Power mgmt. works partly: Suspend or hibernate do halt the system and blank the screen, but fail to turn it off. The system does not respond to the power button or any other than the upper "volume" button (sic!), which wakes it
[17:02] <Artemis3>  up. The SD card reader works out of the box here."
[17:03] <Artemis3> "Xubuntu and  the latest Mint Mate both work well.  I can't get the sound card working"
[17:03] <Artemis3> maybe its not worth jarco_
[17:03] <Akuli> $ alsactl init
[17:03] <Akuli> solves many weird sound problems
[17:04] <jarco_> I cant accept that without first being frustrated a few more hours. I WILL simply not work on windows
[17:04] <Artemis3> ok xD
[17:04] <Artemis3> they say it works, with caveeats
[17:04] <jarco_> I do everything in the terminal, grunt, composer, ssh ...
[17:04] <jarco_> I don't need a lot
[17:04] <jarco_> its a work device
[17:05] <Artemis3> well you are fine then
[17:05] <jarco_> The only problem I have with ubuntu are the old packages :(
[17:05] <jarco_> (not a troll, just a thing that scares me)
[17:07] <Akuli> jarco_, why does that bother you?
[17:07] <Artemis3> jarco_, if you stick to LTS, and PPAs, you can probably be fine the next 4 years or so
[17:08] <Akuli> there's only one program that i have wanted newer than what was in the repos :)
[17:08] <jarco_> Because it will take a long time and loads of maintenance to maintain all up to date packages myself
[17:08] <Akuli> python
[17:08] <Akuli> which packages would you update?
[17:08] <jarco_> php 7.1 ... newest drush etc.
[17:08] <Akuli> like, ubuntu is not arch
[17:08] <Artemis3> jarco_, there is even a newer kernel in 16.04.2 (4.8)
[17:09] <Artemis3> jarco_, apt can handle the updates just fine
[17:09] <jarco_> I know I know. I hope snaps or something similar gains traction soon, if only to get rid of ppa
[17:09] <Artemis3> ppas get updates as well (as long as the maintainer uploads them)
[17:09] <Akuli> jarco_, are you a php programmer or is there some other reason why you want the newest php?
[17:10] <Artemis3> (on a tablet)
[17:11] <jarco_> Yes I am a php dev (among other stuff)
[17:11] <Akuli> then i think it makes sense to install php from source
[17:12] <jarco_> This is getting of topic a lot but I actually bought this thing for my dog. He doesn't like me sitting in the house for hours on end while he is bored. So I bought this think to be able to go outside with him and still get some work/learning done
[17:13] <jarco_> There is a keyboard on the tablet so its cool for me to get some basic stuff done. And he can play with the other dogs in the dog park
[17:13] <jarco_> I should have known ;)
[17:13] <Artemis3> This appears to be a popular php PPA https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[17:14] <jarco_> I don't really like ppa, they are such a mess after a while
[17:14] <Artemis3> if you use the ppa the updates come automatically with the rest of the system updates, they take longer since its the person who maintains it who needs to re-upload the source
[17:14] <Akuli> jarco_, same here, compiling with source with --prefix is nice
[17:14] <jarco_> Nvm my complaining. If I get mate to boot on this its the best distro ever for me
[17:14] <Artemis3> its not a mess if you use with care, a single ppa or two are usually no problem
[17:15] <jarco_> I understand
[17:15] <Artemis3> also jarco_ you CAN make your own PPA as well, make an account, upload code, and it compiles for you
[17:16] <jarco_> I might look into that. I have been more of an arch/manjaro guy in the past. But I might look into that
[17:17] <Artemis3> thats if you don't trust the popular guy there. compiling deb packages need some extra knowledge and distro quirks (you might need patches, etc)
[17:17] <Akuli> debs are sooo much easier than debian's guides make them look like
[17:18] <Akuli> a minimal deb is like a / of a computer and a DEBIAN/config file
[17:18] <Artemis3> well you could start by looking at the popular guy himself
[17:18] <Artemis3> what is he patching, why, etc.
[17:20] <jarco_> I don't mind engaged people, I just don't like the whole ppa idea
[17:20] <Artemis3> its just a personal repository compiled and hosted at canonical's
[17:21] <Artemis3> not unlike other 3rd party repositories, but saves you from signing and other annoyances
[17:23] <jarco_> Does canonical host them? I remember some nonresponsive ones
[17:28] <jarco_> I get a black screen now, So I am not sure if its mate with an error or jut not working but also no errors displayed :D
[18:50] <PlainDave> I'm going to upgrade to 17.04 beta. Is there a way to keep all my settings?
[18:58] <PlainDave> and... I also want to keep my installed programs.
[18:58] <Akuli> PlainDave, they should just stay there, if you want to make sure they stay back up all files and folders starting with . from your home folder
[18:59] <Akuli> why do you upgrade though?
[18:59] <PlainDave> okay
[18:59] <Akuli> and how?
[18:59] <PlainDave> I want to see the changes
[18:59] <jarco_> Hello, I finally managed to make a bootable 32 bit efi disk. But now I get a black screen while trying the live version of mate. Any solutions for this?
[18:59] <Akuli> just grab the new iso and try it off of a usb stick
[18:59] <PlainDave> how? from a USB stick. Oh, okay. cool.
[19:00] <Akuli> no need to install anything just to see if something changes :)
[19:00] <PlainDave> right
[19:00] <PlainDave> thanks
[19:01] <jarco_> oh I just saw some text flashing by, black again now but there seems to be hope
[19:15] <sandeep84> Hi everyone. New to Ubuntu MATE.
[19:15] <sandeep84> Using it on an old Lenovo T410
[19:16] <Akuli> hi sandeep84 :)
[19:21] <sandeep84> Hi Akuli :) Hope you having a good friday evening
[19:23] <fathi> hello
[19:23] <Akuli> hi fathi :)
[19:23] <fathi> i am happy her
[19:24] <fathi> jast set up ubuntu :)
[19:26] <sandeep84> Loving Ubuntu so far
[19:34] <Menzador> Welcome
[22:15] <mate|43310> hello, anyone would be willing to advise on wich version of ubuntu mate is advisable to install is 17.04 stable enough?