| ali1234 | what does "GA" mean? | 00:16 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | in what context? | 00:29 |
| ali1234 | "There were a healthy handful of Unity 8 fans, calling for its GA" | 00:32 |
| daftykins | general availability was my first guess | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | okay but what does that actually mean? | 00:33 |
| daftykins | more than likely being spun into a release as defaults | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | it is already generally available in the common sense | 00:34 |
| daftykins | can't say i know much about it, is that phone only then? well touch only | 00:36 |
| ali1234 | no, you can just install it on 16.04 | 00:36 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't work on many graphics cards | 00:36 |
| ali1234 | but i don't see what that has to do with availability... | 00:37 |
| daftykins | perhaps 'GA' is more so for the common user, not an enthusiast wanting to tweak | 00:37 |
| ali1234 | so "finish it" | 00:37 |
| daftykins | e.g. i bet MS consider Windows 10's 'GA' as being the 11th of April, yet they already published it to their download tool, so i've installed it already | 00:37 |
| ali1234 | wut? | 00:37 |
| daftykins | sorry Windows 10's 1703 update build, 15063 | 00:38 |
| ali1234 | oh, i see | 00:38 |
| ali1234 | so more like "tell people it's finished" | 00:38 |
| daftykins | fanfare and throw them an ISO, i suppose :> | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | trouble is its obviously nowhere near finished | 00:40 |
| daftykins | that's the trouble with fans i suppose :> | 00:47 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:03 |
| SuperMatt | g'day | 08:03 |
| SuperMatt | s'Friday | 08:03 |
| brobostigon | morning | 08:05 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy No Housework Day! 😃 | 08:51 |
| SuperMatt | I'll let the wife know, thanks | 08:52 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:53 |
| * zmoylan-pi dials 99 and poises finger for final 9 and waits for thud from SuperMatt | 08:56 | |
| SuperMatt | Oh she loves doing the housework, and tells everyone she meets that she's a housewife | 08:57 |
| SuperMatt | I barely have to lift a finger most days | 08:57 |
| directhex | anyone have strong feelings on estate agents, other than swearing? | 09:30 |
| diplo | No strong feelings but there are good ones, normally the smaller ones | 09:45 |
| TwistedLucidity | A necessary evil | 09:59 |
| TwistedLucidity | And I guess I will find out how evil when it comes to selling thing place :-( | 10:00 |
| SuperMatt | I'm not 100% certain it is. Don't they have a high turn over of staff because it doesn't really take that much to learn about the process, and not many people want to do it for long? | 10:01 |
| diplo | My ex works for one, I do IT work for them, they've had the same staff for 10 years ish, so not necessarily, but they are small | 10:08 |
| SuperMatt | I guess the bigguns like foxtons are the ones were they have a high turn over | 10:15 |
| arsenip | you're gambling 'nice experience with smaller local agent' vs 'higher sale price with foxtons' - always a compromise. | 10:28 |
| SuperMatt | Foxtons will probably get you a quick sell too, because if someone can't manage a viewing *that day*, they won't bother with them any more | 10:31 |
| arsenip | they do stuff like 'we'll only show you if you have AIP and they know its exactly the place you're aftuer.. thus likely to offer ASAP' | 10:34 |
| arsenip | then start some bidding war to get it sold | 10:35 |
| arsenip | bernard marcus cost me at least £7500 with that crap | 10:35 |
| === aquarius_ is now known as aquarius__ | ||
| arsenip | also hi :p | 10:45 |
| TwistedLucidity | £7.5k???????? | 10:46 |
| TwistedLucidity | What were you selling? Balmoral? | 10:46 |
| SuperMatt | If it was in London, then it was a flat with a bed under the washing machine | 10:54 |
| arsenip | indeed, welcome to london. | 10:54 |
| arsenip | they cost me in organised bidding war price raises rather than fees as a seller. | 10:55 |
| SuperMatt | Why should the bidding war cost you any money though? | 10:56 |
| TwistedLucidity | Another reason to avoid London | 10:56 |
| TwistedLucidity | That and I'd never earn enough to live there, other than in a cardboard box | 10:57 |
| arsenip | because i paid 7.5k above what they wanted for it | 10:57 |
| TwistedLucidity | That doesn't sound to bad TBH. I heard tell of places in Glasgow's West End going for 50% over the guide price. | 10:58 |
| TwistedLucidity | Which is nuts. | 10:58 |
| arsenip | idd, still got a good deal by london standards | 10:58 |
| SuperMatt | oh, you were buying | 10:58 |
| arsenip | oh, sorry :p yes. | 10:58 |
| TwistedLucidity | Seems selling fees should be around the 1-2% mark (all depending on price, services etc) | 10:59 |
| TwistedLucidity | So for this place I'd end up paying...lessee....£3.25 :-S | 10:59 |
| SuperMatt | I kinda feel like the fees should be a flat rate, so there's no way that the estate agents can prioritise selling of more valuable properties | 10:59 |
| arsenip | these days they dont get a cut from the sale price i think | 11:00 |
| arsenip | tend to make more money from bringing property onto the books (commission structure is aimed at that, rather than sale price) | 11:01 |
| SuperMatt | ah right | 11:01 |
| diddledan | someone on the tv crew in china for the F1 practice has just won the Internet: https://twitter.com/jaffathecake/status/850321582677479424 | 12:18 |
| diddledan | WTFWTFWTF syria breaking news! | 13:01 |
| diddledan | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-39521332 | 13:01 |
| TwistedLucidity | diddledan: Also, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39531108 | 13:52 |
| diddledan | available as a snap, this looks funky: https://www.zerotier.com/ | 14:13 |
| arsenip | sadface TwistedLucidity :( | 14:17 |
| popey | ali1234: when will more zerostems be in stock? :) | 14:32 |
| ali1234 | in about a month | 14:32 |
| ali1234 | maybe | 14:32 |
| popey | k | 14:46 |
| === arsenip is now known as arsen | ||
| arsen | bleblehbleh | 15:04 |
| daftykins | arsen: o/ | 15:21 |
| arsen | hi daftykins :) | 15:21 |
| daftykins | how are tricks? | 15:22 |
| arsen | tricking thanks, you? | 15:24 |
| arsen | (busy, started new job) | 15:24 |
| daftykins | again! :> | 15:25 |
| daftykins | yeah not bad here ta, life on the rock is ok | 15:25 |
| arsen | same old :D | 15:27 |
| arsen | my company got semi-bought, so a lazy job change :) | 15:27 |
| daftykins | ah i see | 15:27 |
| arsen | sent links :p | 15:29 |
| * lopta needs a job change. | 15:29 | |
| daftykins | :> | 15:30 |
| daftykins | arsen: still in nodnoL presumably? | 15:30 |
| arsen | indeed | 15:30 |
| arsen | moving offices on monday tho - last of my decent view! | 15:31 |
| daftykins | nooooo! | 15:31 |
| daftykins | down into the basement with ye | 15:31 |
| diddledan | nodnoL! | 15:32 |
| arsen | eugh | 15:34 |
| arsen | the idea of the imgur app is that it's quick images->web | 15:35 |
| arsen | but not if you dont know login creds! :/ | 15:35 |
| arsen | so after much unneeded faff - here's an image that wasn't worth the effort http://i.imgur.com/p4idGtO.jpg | 15:38 |
| daftykins | now do another straight | 15:39 |
| daftykins | ;D | 15:39 |
| * daftykins ducks | 15:39 | |
| Laney | and landscape | 15:39 |
| daftykins | ^ | 15:39 |
| arsen | pfs | 15:39 |
| arsen | tbh it is now faster... dont have to recover my account password (to find i actually used gmail signin) | 15:39 |
| daftykins | i like how that *could* be a building shadow but it also looks like it could be arsen's shadow too | 15:39 |
| arsen | tho i will go via the bog and get a lobby shot | 15:40 |
| arsen | brb | 15:40 |
| * Laney doesn't recognise any landmarks in that picture | 15:40 | |
| arsen | https://imgur.com/gallery/hrQrS | 15:43 |
| daftykins | hmm 'the page isn't redirecting properly' | 15:43 |
| arsen | odd | 15:44 |
| arsen | https://i.imgur.com/B21KPbV.jpg | 15:44 |
| lopta | Is that London? | 15:45 |
| daftykins | cor quite the drop | 15:45 |
| arsen | bishopsgate | 15:46 |
| arsen | liverpool st station on the left, if id | 15:46 |
| arsen | of stood a few meters left youd see it anyway | 15:46 |
| diddledan | that's the lobby?! | 15:50 |
| diddledan | I'd hate to see you go out the front-door | 15:50 |
| daftykins | :> | 15:50 |
| arsen | building split into segments of 3 floors | 15:50 |
| arsen | its my lobby | 15:50 |
| lopta | Is there a lift? | 15:50 |
| arsen | the real lobby is... fishtanky | 15:50 |
| arsen | http://i.imgur.com/cdM3ltC.jpg | 15:52 |
| arsen | that is better if you actually know the liverpool st area | 15:52 |
| arsen | not many landmarks in this view really - NE edge of teh city. i guess there's the olympic park, though that's basically just a massive pringle and some tacky towers. | 15:53 |
| lopta | brb, lunch. | 16:23 |
| lopta | Am I right in thinking that "Unity" was a desktop environment? | 17:15 |
| lopta | Did it have its own window manager? | 17:15 |
| daftykins | the one folks have been using for the last few years is essentially skinned gnome i think | 17:16 |
| lopta | Gnome 2? | 17:18 |
| daftykins | no idea :> | 17:18 |
| lopta | Thanks. That gives me some idea, anyway. | 17:20 |
| daftykins | of course if you're referring to the news pieces on unity 8 that got canned, then that is wholly different | 17:20 |
| diddledan | unity7 is on top of compiz | 17:21 |
| lopta | Perhaps I misunderstood. I heard that they'd abandoned development of Unity 8 but thought Ubuntu was moving (back?) towards Gnome instead. | 17:22 |
| diddledan | "Trump is an unstable, ignorant, madman with no regard for democracy but I'm glad he's shooting missiles" | 17:24 |
| diddledan | that appears to be twitter right now | 17:24 |
| lopta | diddledan: Not all of it. | 17:27 |
| lopta | I would elaborate but I'm guessing that would be off-topic here. | 17:30 |
| daftykins | heh i wouldn't worry about being on topic in here | 17:31 |
| daftykins | although politics might grate | 17:31 |
| popey | lopta: yes, that's the gist of it. Goal is to use GNOME Shell by 18.04. | 17:32 |
| lopta | Oh. I've not heard anything positive about Gnome Shell. I thought even Gnome people didn't like it. | 17:33 |
| diddledan | popey: will mainline Ubuntu be co-opting Ubuntu Gnome or going a separate direction? | 17:38 |
| diddledan | (I may have invented Ubuntu Gnome :-p) | 17:38 |
| diddledan | don't you love when you convince yourself that something exists and someone tells you that, no, you're just a mad person | 17:39 |
| diddledan | anyone who misses gaming in the 90s: https://archive.org/details/bad-influence | 17:43 |
| diddledan | oh nice, I loved this one, https://archive.org/details/channel4bits | 17:44 |
| diddledan | whoever uploaded them got the synopsis wrong though: "hosted on the BBC's Channel 4" | 17:45 |
| daftykins | diddledan: oh hey how's the fibre diet working out? :> | 17:47 |
| diddledan | it's very loose | 17:48 |
| diddledan | the bits are spurting out | 17:48 |
| daftykins | all you'd hoped for? | 17:48 |
| diddledan | yup | 17:48 |
| diddledan | considering one of them is connected to an atom cpu I get decent throughput of about 6-7Gbit/s | 17:49 |
| daftykins | very nice | 17:50 |
| * lopta has an Atom | 17:50 | |
| * diddledan smashes lopta's atom against his own in the LHA | 17:51 | |
| diddledan | we'll find that higgs boson! | 17:51 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/RespectfulMemes/status/850405663654027264 | 17:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | for that we'll need a super nokia collider.... | 17:52 |
| diddledan | I wanna know who the poor devils are that get their large hadrons bashed against each others' | 17:52 |
| diddledan | I keep mine in my pants | 17:53 |
| popey | diddledan: working with ubuntu gnome | 17:53 |
| diddledan | yey | 17:53 |
| diddledan | so, popey, is it viable to switch to ubuntu gnome now and be futureproofed? | 17:54 |
| * diddledan waterproofs everything | 17:54 | |
| diddledan | cute kitty is cute! https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/259097784793222231 | 17:55 |
| daftykins | haha clients secretary sent me a pic today of one of the girls who had managed to squeeze herself in behind a row of books on a shelf XD | 17:57 |
| KnightGnome | evenin | 19:51 |
| daftykins | \o | 19:51 |
| KnightGnome | heyhey | 19:54 |
| KnightGnome | hows it going tonight ? | 19:54 |
| daftykins | KnightGnome: sorry wandered off to make food :D all good here thanks yep | 20:17 |
| daftykins | just chatting + watching a live baseball game from the US | 20:17 |
| diddledan | true | 20:20 |
| diddledan | drinkin a bud.. | 20:20 |
| daftykins | eww no :> | 20:20 |
| diddledan | but. that's how the conversation goes! | 20:20 |
| daftykins | i think they were watching 'murican football in those ads :> | 20:21 |
| diddledan | bah | 20:21 |
| daftykins | when i caught a Royals game in Kansas, they had a nice ale bar on the floor above :D | 20:21 |
| daftykins | $12 each though! | 20:21 |
| diddledan | american baseball == american football == sportsballs | 20:21 |
| diddledan | AHA, the chinese have decided to bump him off! https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/850442526683275270 | 20:22 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/geeksaresexy/status/850453327947202561 | 21:01 |
| daftykins | such physics! i remember gauging a PCs performance with that ;) | 21:02 |
| popey | diddledan: too early to make any kind of judgement like that I suspect | 21:13 |
| diddledan | fair enough, I'll stay on ubuntu-desktop^ for now then | 21:14 |
| diddledan | oh, wow, 17.04 is due early in the release-month (I usually expect it in the last week) | 21:25 |
| diddledan | next thurdsday | 21:25 |
| daftykins | well y'never know! showstoppers aside | 21:25 |
| popey | I'm staying on 16.04 | 21:55 |
| popey | for as long as I can. | 21:55 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:56 |
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