[00:00] <minimec> implite: What ubuntu flavor do you have installed right now? To get the unity desktop, you would install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package. For gnome3 'ubuntu-gnome-desktop'
[00:01] <implite> ubuntu 16.04 lts
[00:20] <faisal> nkk
[00:20] <lxle> Anyone know if when 'unattended-upgrades' is set to download the packagelist, does it download an entire packagelist or just the 'allowed' repository parameters you have set, like 'security'
[00:20] <falconasr> minimec: well nothing works. thanks anyway. the only thing i know that it was working when i installed ubuntu os only. currently i am on dual boot
[00:23] <minimec> falconasr: Sorry to hear that. A single installation sill not change anything *imho*
[00:23] <minimec> falconasr: I tmight be that you have to change the location of the 'brightness' file...
[00:24] <minimec> falconasr: HWat folders do you have in '/sys/class/backlight/'
[00:25] <minimec> falconasr: As far as I understand, laptop-mode is looking for '/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0'
[00:26] <minimec> falconasr: So ->  BRIGHTNESS_OUTPUT="/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0" should be the correct change in the example I posted from askubuntu.
[00:29] <minimec> falconasr: '/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' probably. There is 'actual_brightness' and 'brightness'...
[00:30] <art__> Q: Am making a USB boot RAM-stick, booting from DVD now, I must copy an Ubuntu 16.04 ISO to HDD for Startup Disk Creator? (as it doesn't find ISO on DVD)??
[00:31] <kiss_kill> you must boot from disk(your usb disk)
[00:31] <kiss_kill> not dvd
[00:32] <FireBeard> hello
[00:32] <FireBeard> will MATE get integrated into Gnome, as a sort of 'theme' I'm wondering?
[00:33] <minimec> art__: So you want a full installation on your USB stick? Then boot the DVD installation media and install on the USB stick. I am not sure that I understand you correctly.
[00:33] <falconasr> minimec: i can only tell you there no "acpi_video0" in the dirctory
[00:33] <minimec> FireBeard: MATE has nothing to do with GNOME, besides the fact that both use GTK based applications as default software.
[00:34] <art__> minimec: Want to full install on 3rd HDD, boot there from USB stick. Maybe I need pencil of another 3rd party booter
[00:35] <minimec> falconasr: Ok. In your case I would then try to figure out the exact GPU hardware you have with 'lspci' and then try to search the net in combination with 'ubuntu' + 'brightness'.
[00:35] <art__> minimec: I thought of installing via DVD ISO and USB boot ramstick, to get 16.04 onto 3rd HDD
[00:36] <FireBeard> yea, MATE has nothing to do with Gnome, cept that's completely based on Gnome 2
[00:36] <falconasr> minimec: '/sys/class/backlight/Intel_backlight/power/brightness' this dir structure
[00:36] <FireBeard> I'm guessing I should get out of here before I tred on some people's toes .. again :)
[00:36] <art__> Kiss_kill: .. or Pencil USB boot, you know the one. Win7 is on machine at present HDD 1 and 2 - U16.04 for 3rd HDD
[00:37] <lxle> Anyone know if when 'unattended-upgrades' is set to download the packagelist, does it download an entire packagelist or just the 'allowed' repository parameters you have set, like 'security'
[00:39] <art__> minimec: .. "pendrivelinux", sorry, my bad PenDrive boot USB may be necessary or similar
[00:39] <minimec> falconasr: is this a hybrid GPU syste? Because a Intel only GPU sytem shouldn't be a problem...
[00:40] <falconasr> minimec: yes  intel gpu and amd gpu
[00:42] <KristijanZic> News Unity8: https://plus.google.com/110699558853693437587/posts/gUB2xRn2Dyu
[00:42] <minimec> art__: This would be a wy to create a USB stick, but(!) choose the right 'sdX' device, otherwise you might wipe all date on a harddisk you want to keep... ;)
[00:43] <finisterra> Noob here, looking to configure Touch screen on old Toshiba portege M750
[00:43] <art__> minimec: although EasyBCD worked well, on a previous machine. I'd rather boot to U16.04 from a USB stick now if possible
[00:44] <art__> minimec: Thanks. Will cautiously proceed.
[00:45] <art__> minimec: Presently copy  U16.04-ISO to 2nd HDD. Will use that for StartUpDiskCreator to make USB boot system. Hope for the best.
[00:45] <minimec> falconasr: Ok. So you should look for 'vgaswitcheroo'. Unfortunately I have no experience with Intel/AMD hybrid stuff... http://askubuntu.com/questions/791249/amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-on-ubuntu-16-04
[00:49] <falconasr> minimec: i am giving up...  although i think this hybrid thing shouldnt be a problem becuase there is no driver for amd on ubuntu 16.04. but again who knows what the problem is.?
[00:51] <minimec> falconasr: Well... In theory the 'vgaswitcheroo' thing would switch from AMD to Intel GPU, when you are on battery. You can also decide to only use the INtel GPU and disable the AMD GPU. THat would also help for battery life and backlight dim should work out of the box.
[00:54] <art__> minimec: Just strange StartUpDiskCreator can't find ISO on DVD boot disc. Oh well. Copy one over to HDD and point to that. Thanks. Bye.
[00:58] <LvLng> hi, is it possible to setup different keymaps for different process in X11?
[00:58] <LvLng> ?
[01:00] <minimec> LvLng: Do you mean something like this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/kbdd/
[01:00] <falconasr> minimec: thanks for the help though
[01:00] <minimec> LvLng: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=kbdd&searchon=names
[01:00] <minimec> falconasr: No problem
[01:14] <AnonAT_Leon> SO HAPPY got a Facebook Brute-Force application running on rpi LOVE UBUNTU MATE
[01:15] <SlidingHorn> That's probably not an appropriate topic here for multiple reasons...
[01:15] <AnonAT_Leon> xD
[01:16] <AnonAT_Leon> Join ANONYMOUS
[01:17] <AnonAT_Leon> @SLidingHorn which one
[01:18] <AnonAT_Leon> by
[01:18] <SlidingHorn> !ot | AnonAT_Leon - also, you're not at all anonymous. your IP is posted in channel...
[01:23]  * antelsoc loves ubuntu
[01:47] <b> .logout
[01:57] <user__> Hi , I burned ubuntu on usb flash , Now I want change the flash name but I can't I formatted it more than once but the flash still has the name of ubuntu.
[01:59] <minimec> user__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[02:00] <user__> minimec Thank you
[02:07] <Spaceboy> I just did a clean install of 16.04, overall I'm having a laggy experience.  The computer is a HP 2000 1.3ghz 4g ram regular state hard drive.  Anything I could do to help my experience?
[02:07] <platzhirsch> Is the way you configure where a process inside systemd should log to by starting it with forwarding output like > 2&1 ?
[02:08] <cfhowlett> Spaceboy, probably.  test a less resource hungry Desktop Environment and run your browswer with no active plugins.  On FFox= start in incognito/private mode
[02:09] <thereyougo> what is systemd for ?
[02:09] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install xfce4.  logout.  choose xfce session.  login.
[02:09] <pvl1> platzhirsch: what are you starting that isnt automatically logging
[02:09] <pvl1> hm
[02:09] <pvl1> !systemd
[02:10] <platzhirsch> pvl1: huh, well it's logging to stdout
[02:10] <pvl1> how do you know that
[02:10] <Spaceboy> cvfhowlett: was that advice about installing xfce4 directed towards me?
[02:10] <pvl1> and how do u know systemd is infact starting it platzhirsch
[02:10] <pvl1> Spaceboy: define laggy
[02:11] <platzhirsch> pvl1: by checking if it's running, not sure.. with a pid file maybe
[02:11] <Spaceboy> pvll: slow to initialize anything, video framerate has a drop every few seconds.
[02:11] <pvl1> platzhirsch: you havent answered my original question
[02:11] <platzhirsch> pvl1: software I wrote, a server
[02:12] <pvl1> video framerate of what
[02:12] <pvl1> just moving window?
[02:12] <pvl1> !journalctl
[02:12] <pvl1> nope
[02:12] <pvl1> !logging
[02:12] <cfhowlett> Spaceboy, it was.  install xfce4 and test your performance
[02:12] <dr34mch3ck> hello
[02:12] <Spaceboy> Okay, I'll give that a go. Thank you!
[02:12] <pvl1> platzhirsch: there are mechanisms in systems that define how to log
[02:12] <pvl1> systemd's is called journalctl
[02:13] <jack> hello
[02:13] <platzhirsch> oh okay
[02:13] <platzhirsch> pvl1: that should help me to research it
[02:13] <platzhirsch> thank you :)
[02:13] <pvl1> in any case, you can still simply do it the old way, and log to /var/log platzhirsch
[02:13] <pvl1> though
[02:14] <pvl1> i cannot guarentee thatll save accross reboots
[02:14] <platzhirsch> True, it will overwrite existing logs, which is fine since I am forwarding everything to Elasticsearch
[02:14] <thereyougo> is systemd the same as /etc/rc.d/rc.* scripts in slackware ?
[02:15] <pvl1> nope
[02:15] <Spaceboy> pvll: to answer your frame rate question, the whole computer actually blips, not just the video window
[02:15] <pvl1> !sysvinit
[02:15] <pvl1> !init
[02:15] <thereyougo> it just starts system daemons ?
[02:15] <pvl1> Spaceboy: that is odd... what video card? also check out htop maybe
[02:16] <pvl1> thereyougo: systemd is a lot more than that but yes
[02:16] <pvl1> it can also handle networks, mounts, many different things
[02:16] <pvl1> and most sexually, and moistly, print out the timing of everything in a neat little graph. so you can see the boot time down to like, a microsecond level or something
[02:17] <ScioMin> Hi. I need help fixing my sound on Lubuntu 16.04. It was working for a couple of reboots. Now it plays a 1sec noise sound during login and stops working.
[02:17] <pvl1> so, for example, lets say you got a network mount, but ur network comes up slow, for whatever reason. you can trick the system into just mounting and moving on with its life. or you can on the other hand, force it to wait for network
[02:18] <ScioMin> Nothing but this works: speaker-test -Dsysdefault:CARD=Headset
[02:18] <jennie> hello, can someone please hlep me in mounting filename.img.ext4 and editing few folder in it and save it please
[02:18] <pvl1> so, for example, lets say you got a network mount, but ur network comes up slow, for whatever reason. you can trick the system into just mounting and moving on with its life. or you can on the other hand, force it to wait for network thereyougo
[02:18] <pvl1> incase u missed it
[02:18] <pvl1> ScioMin:  speakers in a laptop or...
[02:19] <pvl1> jennie: what is that file
[02:19] <pvl1> just an image?
[02:19] <jennie> pvl1: its an android system.img.ext4 file
[02:19] <ScioMin> pvl1, Wireless Headset with USB adaptor. This is the alsa debug output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=423aa5819190a7ea73cf53b8320b89b70f1b7c91
[02:20] <pibbur> is there a way to disable dock shortcuts in emacs?
[02:20] <pibbur> like winkey+1 launches first item in dock
[02:20] <pibbur> or switches
[02:20] <pvl1> jennie: this seems a bit complicated, you should ask in #android
[02:20] <OerHeks> jennie you might need android studio for that?
[02:21] <OerHeks> not sure free or paid one ..
[02:21] <jennie> OerHeks: I dont think so because i was able to extract system.img.ext4 in windows pc with some tools but now i can not repack it to system.img.ext4
[02:21] <jennie> so I am thinking to edit the system.img.ext4  in ubuntu and save it
[02:21] <pvl1> theres a paid android studio?
[02:22] <thereyougo> jennie: mount -o loop system.img.ext4 /media/tmp
[02:22] <OerHeks> jennie, so ubuntu must clean up the mess windows made?
[02:22] <jennie> lol
[02:22] <OerHeks> and you didn't backup that file, ofcourse
[02:23] <pvl1> ScioMin: i suggest installing and using pavucontrol
[02:23] <ScioMin> pvl1, alright. trying that.
[02:23] <pvl1> it sounds like with your command, you're selecting the headset to be default audio but not making it permanent
[02:24] <ScioMin> yep
[02:24] <CarlFK> what is the foo to stop nginx?  something like sudo syscontrol nginx stop
[02:24] <pvl1> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Android_eMMC_Booting#Modifying_.IMG_Files jennie  maybe
[02:24] <pvl1> systemctl
[02:25] <CarlFK> ah, systemctl status nginx - got the order wrong. thanks.
[02:25] <jennie> thanks pvl1 will the commands in system.img in that website give me system.img.ext4?
[02:26] <jennie> because i will start with img.ext4 and i want to end up with same extension
[02:26] <pvl1> jennie: extensions are almost meaningless if you dont fully understand what you are doing, which is why the first question i asked was, "what is that file"
[02:26] <pvl1> or something like that
[02:26] <pvl1> file and hexedit might be useful to you
[02:27] <pvl1> !file
[02:27] <plgnet> this isnt that related to ubuntu but i run GNU/Linux netbsd and im looking for another Unix-like os any ideas
[02:27] <pvl1> nope. i meant file the command
[02:27] <cfhowlett> plgnet, you're right.  not ubuntu.  suggest you ask ##linux
[02:28] <cfhowlett> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <plgnet> cfhowlett: T-T ight
[02:28] <jaawerth> plgnet: NixOS looks pretty cool for server-type things. but yeah, ##linux
[02:29] <ScioMin> pvl1, IT. JUST. WORKS! pavucontrol BASED DJ. Thank you pvl1! Now I need to figure how to put a speaker icon into tray. Because current one doesn't stay there for more than 2 nanoseconds. Brb reboot.
[02:33] <platzhirsch> Hm, I set User= under [Service] for my systemctl service, but it still wants me to authenticate when I want to start the service
[02:34] <ScioMin> pvl1, sound works even after reboot. I added speaker icon to tray by right-clicking taskbar ->add/remove panel items. I still think Alsa is crashing during login because it still plays that noise sound for a brief second.
[02:35] <platzhirsch> Do I have to modify the sudoers file for that oh man
[02:35] <wadadli> anyone know of this error INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks:
[02:36] <wadadli> it's appearing a lot from the log of a previous boot (before my system randomly became unresponsive)
[02:37] <wadadli> https://gist.github.com/wadadli/ba13bd25d8bda8f7f8b95c250dfbb5df
[02:37] <pvl1> platzhirsch: read the man pages. user is just what user itll run as. meaning systemd will start it as a user, but systemd is a root service
[02:38] <pvl1> alsa might be crashing ScioMin , have you checked your logs?
[02:41] <ScioMin> pvl1, no I haven't. I'm violently reading this now: https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting. Do you know where I can see the logs?
[02:42] <pvl1> ScioMin: journalctl -xb i think
[02:42] <pvl1> and scroll
[02:42] <pvl1> ScioMin: i think amixer is the terminal command to  configure alsa
[02:42] <pvl1> there might be a default file for it
[02:43] <pvl1> ScioMin: i havent read this, also dont want to
[02:43] <pvl1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log
[02:43] <ScioMin> pvl1, interesting. I'm reading the log to see if there's anything apparent.
[02:48] <ohwell> I have a laptop with a 32GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. Any advice on how I would allocate these for my ubuntu setup?
[02:48] <cfhowlett> ohwell, OS on the ssd, /home on the HDD          - must my $0.02
[02:49] <magikid> ohwell, maybe also the swap on the SSD
[02:50] <Bashing-om> ohwell: ^ +1 , Might also consider /var on the spinner .. give as much to the OS on the SSD as possible .
[02:51] <apple1718> Hey everyone
[02:51] <apple1718> Need some help installing linux on a surface pro 3
[02:54] <promet_> Hmmm, seems like, ftm, something about dns resolving in 16.04 has interrupted vpn operability. Anyone else noticed this?
[02:58] <pvl1> huh
[02:58] <ScioMin> pvl1, I couldn't find anything suspicious in Pulseaudio and Alsa logs. I'll call this [SOLVED] and return in the future when I'm bored. :) Thanks again!
[02:58] <pvl1> lol small compromise i suppose
[02:58] <pvl1> no problem
[02:58] <ScioMin> Well sound is working.
[02:59] <ScioMin> I just can't be bothered to debug why Alsa was misbehaving atm :(
[03:01] <ScioMin> I'm writing down everything it takes to make Lubuntu run smooth in my PC for next time I format it. Thanks to pvl1 I just replaced 20 lines of Alsa configuration with: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol && pavucontrol
[03:01] <pvl1> ScioMin: i tend to keep that on github
[03:02] <ScioMin> pvl1, yeah! Mine is a git push away from github. Should be there soon.
[03:02] <ScioMin> (was a messy google docs before)
[03:04] <apple1718> Hey, can someone help me with dualbooting linux?
[03:04] <cfhowlett> apple1718, are you installing ubuntu
[03:04] <Guest99325> I want to know too. How do you dual boot ubuntu 16.04 on a mac without rEFInd?
[03:04] <apple1718> Well, no, but I'm considering installing ubuntu instead of this distro as it seems to use grub by default
[03:05] <cfhowlett> apple1718, we do ubuntu support here.  Install ubuntu and we will be happy to help
[03:05] <apple1718> cool thanks
[03:08] <ohwell> I like the idea of using the large HDD for /home. I have the current /home set up as ecryptfs. I can keep googling, but are there any good known guides on how to create a new encrypted directory and use that for /home?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> !encryption | ohwell this should do it
[03:09] <ohwell> thank you
[03:15] <jaawerth> what system does ubuntu user under the hood when you use the GUI to add something to start on login? and does it get sigterm/sigint when you log out, or do you have to listen for an event?
[03:15] <jaawerth> I'm thinking of daemonizing a process but not sure if I needd to handle my own graceful shutdown or if it will automatically do sigterm/sigint or add it to a specific kernel session
[03:16] <jaawerth> or does this vary by what you're using for your desktop env?
[03:24] <pvl1> jaawerth: what are you trying to do
[03:24] <pvl1> !systemd
[03:27] <Guest123> Does the Ubuntu 16.04 EFI installer do a proper refi installation on a mac?
[03:27] <jaawerth> pvl1: thanks - I plan on using systemd after upgrading (which is hopefully soon, just gotta make time for backing up/restoring my user data/migrating dotfiles)
[03:28] <jennie> hello, can you please tell me why am i getting this error/ bash no such file or directory while file is there/ i have also chmod +x :Shttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24331823/
[03:28] <jennie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24331823/
[03:28] <jaawerth> pvl1: , I'm trying to autostart and gracefully end a wrapped process based on login rather than startup/shutdown - was hoping I could use whatever system is used by the "start on login" dialog before I do the upgrade
[03:28] <jennie> I am on liveCD
[03:29] <ohwell> thanks again for the help and advice, it all went smoothly
[03:29] <pvl1> jaawerth: are you using gnome or whatever? there was a gui for this. uhm, i think its the concept of seats by the login manager, that you are asking about
[03:29] <pvl1> but the DE might have its own way
[03:30] <jaawerth> pvl1: in this case cinnamon, but I wasn't sure if it was DE-centric or something lightdm did, and my google-fu was failing so I figured I'd ask. No worries, though, probably just gotta keep spelunking docs ;-)
[03:31] <jaawerth> (or wait and use systemd, but now I want to find out on principle)
[03:31] <pvl1> jennie: run file simimgeajefhwjeg or whatever it is
[03:31] <jennie> thnks pvl1 for looking but the guide from youtube video says ths https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Y-_bofSxs2R0Y2WV9pak9HRnM/view
[03:31] <pvl1> jaawerth: cinnamon is loosely based on gnome i think.
[03:31] <jaawerth> yeah it's a fork
[03:31] <pvl1> search for how to do it in that maybe itll shed light
[03:31] <jaawerth> so it's probably through the gnome APIs if it isn't lightdm-based
[03:32] <pvl1> but there are user sessions you can customize for lightdm
[03:32] <pvl1> they're called sesions or seats iirc
[03:32] <jaawerth> cool, thanks
[03:32] <jaawerth> yeah I probably just need to narrow the search since there are also those kernel sessions for process grouping
[03:32] <pvl1> jennie: i dont have the full character set to read all of that
[03:32] <pvl1> running file will tell you what the file is
[03:32] <pvl1> er what kind of file
[03:33] <Guest123> Does the Ubuntu installer have its own channel?
[03:33] <pvl1> jennie: have you also considered the character set of file name vs keyboard? try renaming the file
[03:33] <pvl1> use tab completion
[03:33] <pvl1> Guest123: not that i know of, why do you ask
[03:45] <Renari> I'm trying to install a desktop environment on ubuntu server. I've installed ubuntu-session, lightdm and cinnamon. However when I login with lightdm I get a solid blue screen that doesnt do anything.
[03:46] <Renari> Is there a config I need to edit to have the xsession launch cinnamon?
[03:47] <PipeItToDevNull> Why not just edit .Xinitrc and go straight to cinnamon, skipping a DM
[03:48] <Renari> I could.
[03:51] <pvl1> im with them ^^^
[03:55] <platzhirsch> systemctl is a nightmare
[03:55] <pvl1> lol why
[03:57] <platzhirsch> I don't know, somehow I find it cryptic, also I lost root access because I am an idiot and edited sudoers.d without visudo
[03:59] <platzhirsch> so maybe it's just me who's the nightmare
[03:59] <jaawerth> lol
[03:59] <jaawerth> well you can always just boot with a livecd and fix it from there
[03:59] <jaawerth> if you haven't encrypted stuff, at least
[04:00] <jaawerth> back in the day you could just boot into single-user-mode and get root but I think they closed that loophole a long time ago
[04:02] <platzhirsch> Was on AWS, detached the storage and attached it to another instance
[04:03] <platzhirsch> Also I have a hard time searchig for systemctl stuff, i.e. I search for "systemctl start service on boot" and I get nothing
[04:03] <platzhirsch> maybe every sane admin just refers to the man pages
[04:04] <platzhirsch> ah I see, symlinks..
[04:07] <pvl1> (coughs, arch wiki, coughs)
[04:08] <PipeItToDevNull> platzhirsch, systemctl enable service
[04:08] <platzhirsch> PipeItToDevNull: thank you
[04:08] <PipeItToDevNull> Yerp
[04:08] <PipeItToDevNull> That makes the link, disable removes the link
[04:08] <platzhirsch> I guess that's what I mean with cryptic
[04:09] <platzhirsch> Okay, so I enable a service.. the semantic of that is, auto-start on boot?
[04:09] <platzhirsch> I would have expected something entirely different
[04:09] <Dustin> hey so i downloaded the cinnelera video editor that the ubuntui official site recommended i download for video edtiting. ive downloaded and decompressed it like it said to but i can figure out how to "run ./cinelerra from the directory" anyone know how?
[04:10] <Dustin> ubuntu**
[04:10] <PipeItToDevNull> platzhirsch, Read through the arch wiki on the subject
[04:11] <platzhirsch> PipeItToDevNull: looks helpfu;
[04:11] <PipeItToDevNull> platzhirsch, best wiki ever made
[04:12] <Azulflame> I dunno. Wikipedia gives the Arch Linux Wiki a good run for it's money
[04:12] <Jordan_U> Dustin: What "ubuntu official site"? I would recommend you try some of the editors that are available in the default repositories first.
[04:13] <Dustin> i mean like ubuntu.com where you download ubuntu and stuff
[04:13] <Dustin> i just dont know how to open the directory ebcause its not in my search tab thingy
[04:13] <Azulflame> try to install it from a repo
[04:14] <Jordan_U> Dustin: Please link to the exact page where you found these instructions.
[04:14] <Dustin> pardon me it was the linux official not ubuntu
[04:14] <Dustin> https://www.linux.com/news/top-3-linux-video-editors
[04:15] <PipeItToDevNull> Dustin, https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:15] <PipeItToDevNull> From the page you linked ,there is a PPA for it
[04:16] <Dustin> i probably sound stupid for asking, ive never actually used ubuntu before this new pc i just bult on a budget, whats a ppa?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Dustin: That article is from 2013. That was a long time ago in technology time.
[04:16] <Dustin> ah okay i didnt notice that
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Dustin: Here's one from this year: https://itsfoss.com/best-video-editing-software-linux/
[04:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Personal something something, basically a personal repository. People make them and you add them to your system so those packages can be found by apt
[04:17] <Dustin> i am downloading audacity and some other thing from a repo so you guys solved my issue anyways
[04:18] <israphial> Hi. Looking for a way to make my panel in Ubuntu (unity) 16.04 COMPLETELY transparent and clear. Even after messing with unity tweaker and compiz, it is still a shaded blue color, although it is pretty transparent,
[04:18] <Dustin> tanks guys see ya around
[04:18] <israphial> I would like to completely eliminate all shading and color in it, but unity tweaker and compiz don't do that.
[04:19] <israphial> The help threads I've found on this matter refer to much older versions of ubuntu so I don't want to use them in fear of using an outdated method, I'd rather ask an up to date source like this channel.
[04:20] <nuclearnadal> can i install ubuntu on the USB stick?
[04:20] <PipeItToDevNull> nuclearnadal, On another
[04:20] <nuclearnadal> ok, got it
[04:21] <nuclearnadal> will it be slower?
[04:21] <PipeItToDevNull> Yes
[04:21] <nuclearnadal> like how much slower in % as compare to hdd install?
[04:21] <ivan> nuclearnadal: it depends on the USB stick
[04:22] <ivan> if you install on a good USB3 stick it might be faster than a hard drive
[04:22] <nuclearnadal> ok
[04:23] <PipeItToDevNull> But always consider it volatile
[04:23] <nuclearnadal> volatile ?
[04:23] <PipeItToDevNull> Ready to fail at any time
[04:23] <nuclearnadal> oh why so?
[04:23] <PipeItToDevNull> It is a USB, they have high failure rates compared to disks
[04:24] <nuclearnadal> i mean yeah, usb can fail anytime, i just want to use it because i do not have empty hard drive as of now, and I need to run some ubuntu programs
[04:24] <PipeItToDevNull> Just make a persistence and you dont need another stick
[04:25] <nuclearnadal> i want to install fsutils package
[04:25] <nuclearnadal> thats why i am installing ubuntu
[04:25] <PipeItToDevNull> Mounting a persistence partition as a union should work
[04:29] <Maximus2> is support for nvidia-173 completly dead?
[04:33] <Bashing-om> Maximus2: depends on what release you are running. see http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases
[04:37] <Maximus2> Bashing-om: That means that my fx5600 is just flat out unsupported...
[04:39] <Bashing-om> Maximus2: Yermonal command ' X -version ' says what ?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> terminal*
[04:40] <Maximus2> Bashing-om: X server 1.18.4
[04:40] <Maximus2> clean install today running on i3
[04:40] <Bashing-om> Maximus2: Uh Huh , true ,, no Nvidia support .
[04:41] <Maximus2> darrrnn
[04:41] <Maximus2> Bashing-om: Man I just want that hardware decoding support so I can play videos on my TV
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Maximus2: Sorry, I do not know enough about adapting a TV to serve as a monitor for the computer .
[04:45] <Maximus2> nono the open source drivers work fine
[04:45] <Maximus2> Bashing-om: I can conntct to a tv
[04:45] <Maximus2> it's just videos lag like hell
[04:46] <Maximus2> hoped hardware decoding would help with that
[04:48] <Bashing-om> Maximus2: A thought . ya might look in bios and see if you can allocate additional memory for video .
[04:49] <darkad> why vm.swappiness=10 isn't a default setting in ubuntu?
[04:51] <faizul> all linux, not ubuntu
[04:52] <darkad> yes faizul
[04:55] <AndroUser> Hi
[04:56] <bababc> I want to install ubuntu
[04:56] <bababc> I have a bootable dvd rom
[04:56] <bababc> But I am unable to mark dvd rom as first booting device
[04:56] <bababc> I am using hp r014tx
[04:58] <pxfgod> I ssh login as user xxx, and run "git" the bash informs me "sudo apt install git".
[04:58] <pxfgod> when login as user yyy, and run "git" the bash informs me "require admin to install git package". why comes different information?
[05:02] <alkisg> Morning lotuspsychje :)
[05:02] <alkisg> Hi all
[05:02] <Bashing-om> pxfgod: The 1st created user is the one with the administrative level privileges .
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg add discuss to your favs :p
[05:04] <hamdjan> is there an elasticsearch 2.4 package in ubuntu? i only found 1.7 in the offical xenial repos
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !latest | hamdjan
[05:06] <hamdjan> lotuspsychje, 2.4 is not the latest, it's the version i need that works with haystack
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> hamdjan: its recommended to use package versions, for the specific ubuntu version
[05:07] <hamdjan> i try this one https://www.elastic.co/downloads/past-releases/elasticsearch-2-4-1
[05:13] <pxfgod> Bashing-om, yes, xxx is already-exist user, yyy is my new-added acount using useradd command, but how to add user as privileged level?
[05:13] <pxfgod> or alter yyy to be privileged?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[05:19] <Bashing-om> pxfgod: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers .
[05:19] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[05:20] <Azulflame> pxfgod: assumming that you have sudo configured properly, add yyy to the wheel group
[05:24] <wastrel> on my one it's the sudo group
[05:24] <wastrel> there's no wheel group
[05:25] <platzhirsch> Can I even configure journalctl to log the output of a specific service to a file?
[05:25] <Azulflame> right, this is Ubuntu
[05:26] <Azulflame> recently set up Arch, and it's wheel there
[05:26] <Azulflame> yeah, it's sudo group on Ubuntu
[05:46] <pxfgod> type sudo => sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[05:47] <pxfgod> type /usr/bin/sudo => /usr/bin/sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[05:47] <pxfgod> how to tell a command is shell-builtin or file?
[05:48] <EriC^^> pxfgod: if it's builtin it'll say so in "type"
[05:48] <EriC^^> try "type cd"
[05:49] <pxfgod> I mean if type xxx. type  will display xxx's alias.
[05:49] <pxfgod> how to skip alias.
[05:50] <EriC^^> type -a <name>
[05:50] <EriC^^> \name skips the alias
[06:02] <guest-njbepi> any girl here?
[06:03] <bagus> hhi
[06:07] <lxle> Anyone know if when 'unattended-upgrades' is set to download the packagelist, does it download an entire packagelist or just the 'allowed' repository parameters you have set, like 'security'
[06:13] <chris11> I'm wanting to run a script when anyone starts the computer. Will setting this up in /etc/init run the script before anyone logs on?
[06:14] <EriC^^> chris11: which ubuntu version are you using?
[06:14] <chris11> 14.04 LTS I think?
[06:14] <EriC^^> type "lsb_release -sd"
[06:14] <chris11> it migth be the server instance, I'm using aws for this
[06:15] <chris11> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[06:15] <EriC^^> !upstart | chris11 have a look here
[06:16] <chris11> ok. I'll look into that.
[06:18] <andy__> test
[06:18] <chris11> so just to be clear, the script is in /home/ubuntu/, and I can run it before anyone logs on?
[06:19] <EriC^^> chris11: yes
[06:19] <chris11> Ok, cool. Thanks. I wasn't  quite sure if /home/ubuntu/folder/script.sh would be available before logging in.
[06:21] <ducasse> chris11: it wouldn''t on a desktop with encrypted home, but it will on a default server install
[06:23] <chris11> ok. cool.
[06:27] <chris11> I'm just looking into runlevels. I've noticed that I can set to run on any number of runlevels. What runlevel would the ec2 instance be at before anyone logged in?
[06:32] <amish> Hi! I need some help here. I have a laptop with intel core i3 + amd radeon r5 m330. I am running ubuntu 16.04. It has xserver-xorg-video-ati installed but I cannot use the amd card for games. It always uses the intel card. steam system info also shows only intel card. Can someone help me?
[06:38] <alexu> QUESTION: what can mount 'copymods' to /lib/modules in 16.04? i do not have cloud-initramfs-tools installed.
[06:46] <ducasse> amish: can you switch between them in the bios?
[06:49] <hanasaki> I have gnome,xfce and kde installed : firefox is picking up the system proxy setting.  How do I find where they are set and which ones are pickedup>?
[06:51] <bububoi> Hi
[06:52] <bububoi> I have made sudo settings in /etc/sudoers file, how do I make those settings reflect without rebooting the system.
[06:52] <amish> how do I do that ducasse?
[06:53] <ducasse> amish: go into the bios during boot, see if there is a way to select between intel and amd gpu
[06:53] <alkisg> bububoi: changes in sudoers take effect immediately, next time you use sudo
[06:57] <alexu> found the answer: systemd
[07:07] <lovely> Can anybody refer me to a channel dedicated to Arduino or gsm
[07:08] <ducasse> !alis
[07:08] <ducasse> lovely: ^^
[07:11] <effbiai> hi, will ubuntu discontinue ubuntu phone also, or will it just replace u8 with gnome?
[07:12] <amish> ducasse: there was no option for graphics cards in bios
[07:12] <anddam> is Thunderbird the default Unity mail client?
[07:12] <ducasse> effbiai: it will replace unity7 with gnome and drop unity8 and discontinue phone
[07:12] <ducasse> amish: then i don't know, sorry
[07:12] <anddam> I used gnome setting panel to setup my online account (Google), should I setup the online account in Unity's settings panel as well?
[07:12] <amish> ok thanks for the help
[07:13] <anddam> or is that going to make something conflict?
[07:13] <effbiai> ducasse: so nor more ubuntu touch ? :'(
[07:13] <xangua> anddam: Thunderbird is not a gnome program, setting an online account there won't affect it
[07:14] <jan__> hello
[07:14] <ducasse> effbiai: not aiui, but you can ask in #ubuntu-touch.
[07:14] <jan__> j kurwa d
[07:14] <jan__> fck you
[07:15] <DickButt> sup fags
[07:15] <DickButt> sup
[07:16] <anddam> xangua: I asked since Thunderbird is the only app showing up in dashboard if I search for "mail", and I have a default 16.04 install
[07:16] <amish> anyone else can throw some light on my issue?
[07:16] <DickButt> cyka blyat
[07:17] <anddam> xangua: I figured it a mail client was "default" it'd be installed with a default install, also it'd be called "Mail". Was I wrong?
[07:17] <anddam> anyway I setup the online account in gnome panel due to the Drive vfs support that the account via Unity's setting panel doesn't have (it only seems to have "search" features)
[07:18] <ducasse> !guidelines | DickButt
[07:18] <xangua> Thunderbird comes preinstalled in Ubuntu/unity, yes anddam
[07:18] <ducasse> anddam: the gnome mail thingy is evolution, aiui
[07:18] <anddam> as soon as I setup the gnome online account the Calendar app, that was already open, showed the Google Calendar setup, but clicking the setting button in Calendar app opens Unity's settings
[07:18] <ducasse> anddam: but on unity i think tb is default
[07:19] <anddam> where there's no account configured, I'm now dubious if I should add the online account there to or if it could/will give conflicts
[07:19] <DickButt> waddup lol
[07:19] <anddam> xangua: but you said it's not default, does another client have that role?
[07:19] <DickButt> How's it going you red eyed cucks
[07:19] <anddam> ducasse: from GNOME wiki it appears to be "Mail"
[07:20] <anddam> ducasse: as an user I'm a bit lost here, it's not very clear what's there/what should be used
[07:23] <anddam> I honestly have great expectactions for Elementary in terms of UX
[07:25] <chris11> does running a script in the background slow it down?
[07:29] <ikevin> chris11, no
[07:31] <chris11> ok. good.
[07:32] <chris11> maybe I just hit some sections that are taking a lot of time. It went from between .5 to 4 minutes  to around 6 minutes to get results
[07:35] <pc21> hi
[07:35] <pc21> hi?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support here pc21 .
[07:36] <pc21> hi
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !ask
[07:36] <pc21> ok
[07:37] <pc21> who are you?
[07:37] <pc21> hi
[07:37] <cfhowlett> pc21, you seem confused.  this is NOT a social chat channel.  please ask your ubuntu support question.  for chitchat/jibberjabber, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <pc21> thanks
[07:38] <pc21> i got it.
[07:39] <Kiicki> is there an FPS counter in Ubuntu for games that are not steam games?
[07:39] <pc21> no
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | pc21
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Kiicki, not that I know of.  sounds like something the game itself would have to provide
[07:40] <Kiicki> yeah but I think that one is broken in Minecraft. I'm testing it out but the FPS seems a bit wrong
[07:41] <cfhowlett> perhaps talk to the minecraft team?
[07:41] <Kiicki> What?
[07:41] <pc22> r
[07:41] <Kiicki> I was just asking for a different FPS counter
[07:41] <pc22> no
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Kiicki, hit up google: fps + counter + ubuntu
[07:42] <pc22> there is notany fucking fps counter.
[07:42] <alexu> Kiicki, try nexuiz, i think in some settings it does show fps
[07:42] <cfhowlett> pc22,stop your profanity immediately.
[07:43] <Kiicki> Thanks people
[07:43] <pc22> sorry bastards
[07:43] <ikevin> !ops | pc22
[07:44] <cfhowlett> ops: ban requested pc22
[07:44] <pc22> why you banning me?
[07:44] <pc22> im a good guy stupid motherfuckers
[07:44] <kloeri> pc22: be sensible please
[07:44] <cfhowlett> Kiicki, seems a pretty slick project but note the ppa so not supported here
[07:45] <pc22> give me a damn fps counter
[07:45] <jink> pc22: It's probably your choice of words.
[07:45] <cfhowlett> kloeri, confirmed troll.  do not engage
[07:45] <jink> cfhowlett: :)
[07:45] <pc22> no bait
[07:45] <pc22> hehehhe
[07:45] <pc22> lvh↓← ¢
[07:45] <cfhowlett> for those using hexchat, /ignore nick   will add that person to you ignored file
[07:46] <Kiicki> cfhowlett It's just that I have had problems with v-sync. It seems to not lock at 60fps but around 40fps. you would think that my bad GPU wouldn't be able to deliver better as it's a AMD HD 5450 but when v-sync is off I get 120fps in Minecraft looking at the sky which make me believe that the FPS counter in the game is just broken
[07:46] <jink> cfhowlett: For anyone using any sensible irc client that'll work.
[07:46] <Kiicki> either I'm not actually getting 120fps with v-sync on or the system for some reason thinks 40fps is v-sync
[07:46] <Kiicki> that first one was meant without v-sync
[07:47] <Kiicki> yeah I'm using a 60hz TV
[07:53] <apeldorf> test
[07:53] <cfhowlett> apeldorf, test passed
[07:53] <lolada> i cant see your message
[07:54] <apeldorf> thanks
[07:55] <apeldorf> lolada, cash me ouside ha bout dat :)
[07:56] <lolada> im poor mate, cant cash myself even, sorry
[07:56] <gurugun> hi, sorry for my english i have one probleme please help?
[07:56] <apeldorf> same here man
[07:56] <coder-bts> gurugun: ya?
[07:56] <lolada> gurugun: just shoot the question
[07:57] <sadsheep> how to create a symlink alias in vhost subfolder ?
[07:57] <gurugun> Oki i'm writing this question
[07:57] <sadsheep> i have a folder vith 2 subfolder
[07:57] <sadsheep> my first folder is the vhost
[07:58] <sadsheep> and 2 subfolder is indexes
[07:58] <sadsheep> but i would like to link a subfolder in other subfolder
[07:59] <sadsheep> first/ secondA
[07:59] <sadsheep> first/ secondB
[07:59] <jink> You make no sense, but you can either use 'ln -s' if your apache configuration allows it, or you can use 'Alias' in the apache configuration.
[07:59] <coder-bts> sadsheep: why are you just trying to make it more complicated?
[08:00] <sadsheep> aliasMatch currently is : "^/secondB/$"
[08:00] <gurugun> Hello I have two screen on ubuntu, is I can not manage to change the main desktop which is on the left screen I would like to have it on the middle screen in the center could you help me? Thanks look
[08:00] <sadsheep> beacause i must create an symlinks for multiple subfolder
[08:00] <sadsheep> is no good :/
[08:01] <jink> sadsheep: I suggest you write up a paste that explains what you have and what you want.  Include directory structure and what urls you want.
[08:01] <coder-bts> gurugun: you mean you have 2 monitors right?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> I read it as 3 ...
[08:01] <gurugun> yes , two
[08:01] <sadsheep> yes,  two second, i writing
[08:02] <sadsheep> thx Kink
[08:02] <sadsheep> jink*
[08:02] <coder-bts> gurugun: ok, i am sending you pm
[08:02] <anddam> chris11: with no further info that could be anything
[08:04] <sadsheep> So, I have folder/subfoldA/subsubfolders/www/ and folder/subfolderB/ ! So, i would like with vhost configuration subfolderB/ into each subfolderA/subsubfolders/www
[08:04] <gurugun> thank's coder
[08:06] <sadsheep> currently my AliasMatch is AliasMatch "^/subfolderB$" "/var/www/folder/subfolderA/www$1"
[08:06] <sadsheep> but this not run
[08:08] <sadsheep> I go and look on the Internet
[08:12] <waki> quien por aqui
[08:13] <coder-bts> network dropped
[08:14] <waki> alguien sabe decirme un seridor de correo seguro en onion
[08:14] <k1l> !es
[08:15] <anddam> what's an appropriate channel to discuss backup policies?
[08:16] <ikevin> anddam, if it's related to a problem with ubuntu, yes, else no
[08:18] <anddam> ikevin: did you actually read my question?
[08:18] <anddam> or did you read "is this an appropriate channel…" instead?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> anddam, for search for channels, use the !list command
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !list | anddam
[08:18] <anddam> I ask because your answer doesn't really match the question
[08:19] <ikonia> anddam: what is your question at a basic summary
[08:20] <anddam> cfhowlett: I think freenode has specific command as well, /list apart
[08:20] <ikonia> anddam: it's a bot called alis
[08:20] <ikonia>  /msg alis help
[08:20] <anddam> good
[08:21] <anddam> ikonia: my question is what would be a channel where backup policies (in general) would be in topic
[08:21] <anddam> most of the resource on web are (unsurprisingly) windows-specific
[08:22] <anddam> I have a macos/linux home network
[08:22] <ikonia> anddam: that question is offtopic for this channel - we are not a yellow pages function
[08:22] <ikonia> anddam: use the alis bot or ask in #freenode for general help
[08:22] <ikonia> anddam: if you have an actual question about how to use backup functions on ubuntu, just ask
[08:23] <anddam> ok, is there a desktop file to start dejadup GUI or is it only accessed via Settings > Backup and command line?
[08:23] <anddam> that is, is it possible to call dejadup GUI from dashboard
[08:23] <ikonia> anddam: you can create a desktop shortcut
[08:24] <anddam> sure, but there's no a builtin one
[08:24] <anddam> right?
[08:24] <ikonia> if you install it and one doesn't get created "no"
[08:25] <apodio> hello
[08:27] <anddam> wow, FYI there's ##backup
[08:27] <anddam> sorry for the noise
[08:29] <cfhowlett> whaaaa?@!    shoot, let me give you an upvote just for being courteous enough to drop an unsolicited apology!
[08:30] <lesshaste> do any pdf viewers have case sensitive search?
[08:30] <michael_> ls
[08:32] <ivan> lesshaste: Firefox's built-in PDF viewer
[08:32] <lesshaste> ivan, really? How do you make it case sensitive? I have it open now
[08:33] <ivan> lesshaste: Match Case button :-)
[08:33] <ivan> next to the search bar
[08:33] <ivan> on it, rather
[08:33] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, foxit reader has that IIRC
[08:33] <lesshaste> ivan, oh I see .. I was using Google drive view somehow. Thanks
[08:34] <lesshaste> cfhowlett, interesting! I will check that out
[08:35] <lesshaste>  it seems okular does
[08:35] <lesshaste> just not evince
[08:35] <anddam> cfhowlett: me?
[08:54] <sephicc> anyone has an idea why my screens turn off when i use screen lock?
[08:54] <selckin> to save electricity
[08:54] <sephicc> xD
[08:55] <sephicc> can I turn this "feature" off?
[08:55] <sephicc> can't find it anywhere
[08:56] <TijG> sephicc: Settings > Brightness & Lock > Lock screen after: ...
[08:56] <TijG> sephicc: no?
[08:56] <selckin> xset dpms force off
[08:56] <Nathanzou> system settings
[08:56] <Nathanzou> brightness & lock?
[08:57] <sephicc> don't have brightness & lock :(
[08:57] <sephicc> only "power"
[08:57] <Nathanzou> :(
[08:57] <ivan> selckin: that turns off the screen immediately :/
[09:00] <selckin> then i remember wrong :)
[09:00] <alexxio> hello, i have a linux lucidlynx that is no more supported, and on it i want to install mysqlclient
[09:01] <trijntje_> I'm trying to mount my encrypted system partition, but I get the error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'. How can I solve this and access the partition, it should be a regular ext4
[09:01] <alexxio> how can i do that accorging to the error messages on apt-get that fail to find the package?
[09:02] <ivan> alexxio: shouldn't you be figuring out how to upgrade from 10.04 instead so that you aren't two years behind on security patches
[09:03] <alexxio> @ivan: yes you're right, but before i need to solve the mysql issue :D
[09:04] <deakin> test here
[09:05] <trijntje_> alexxio: 10.04 is no longer supported, so there are no packages for it. I'd guess the repository for lucid has been taken offline years ago
[09:05] <alexxio> yes i know guys, the fact is that, now what can i do?
[09:06] <alexxio> the only option is to upgrade the system?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | alexxio
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> alexxio: but for security reasons, i would go for a fresh install on a supported ubuntu version
[09:07] <ivan> +1
[09:08] <trijntje_> !lucid | alexxio
[09:14] <trijntje_> I'm trying to mount my encrypted system partition, but I get the error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'. How can I solve this and access the partition, it should be a regular ext4
[09:14] <Prototip> why don't you guys help him out and tell him how to install the client package??
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> !who | Prototip
[09:16] <ivan> Prototip: there aren't any packages for 10.04 on the mirrors
[09:18] <Prototip> ivan: is there an iso image that includes the client?
[09:19] <ivan> how would I know
[09:19] <Prototip> the iso images from old-releases are pretty small.. so I'd guess not.
[09:23] <Prototip> alexxio: if you have installed tools to build packages, then you can build a client of that old version yourself. if not, your only chance is to upgrade
[09:24] <hopper_> good day all!
[09:24] <Prototip> gday, hopper_
[09:25] <hopper_> So, I guess you could say I'm new to Ubuntu...
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Prototip: we dont support eol versions here
[09:25] <hopper_> I started playing with it years ago at my father's suggestion, but never got into it.
[09:25] <Prototip> lotuspsychje: I don't charge for help.. do you?
[09:26] <hopper_> I am back and ready to learn
[09:26] <hopper_> Any start up suggestions?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !manual | hopper_ start here
[09:27] <hopper_> I have already touched on those and have already become proficient with them. Hence I'm here...
[09:27] <bluepanter_> Hi.
[09:27] <bluepanter_> How can I install flashplayer for chrome via terminal?
[09:28] <bluepanter_> is it even possible?
[09:28] <hopper_> I understand the general user application options... I wish to become proficient at the other fun and interesting progrmming aspects that make ubuntu fun.
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> hopper_: this is the ubuntu support channel here, meant for asking questions
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> hopper_: feel free to idle and learn
[09:29] <hopper_> My apologies, and thanks
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> hopper_: you want to contribute perhaps?
[09:30] <hopper_> I'm happy to offer whatever knowledge I have, absolutely!
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | hopper_ welcome to the community
[09:33] <hopper_> Could you explain the !"Command" ?
[09:33] <ducasse> !brain | hopper_
[09:37] <bluepanter_> did anyone seen my message?
[09:37] <hopper_> I saw the message and have been researching... Though I'm new to this so it would take me a bit longer to answer than most.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> bluepanter_: tryout chromium-browser, its the alternative for chrome on ubuntu
[09:37] <k1l> bluepanter_: chrome ships an own flashplayer already
[09:39] <bluepanter_> k1l, What do you mean with chrome shiops an own flashplayer
[09:39] <trijntje_> I'm trying to mount my encrypted system partition, but I get the error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'. How can I solve this and access the partition, it should be a regular ext4
[09:39] <k1l> bluepanter_: chrome got an own flashplayer included already
[09:39] <bluepanter_> lotuspsychje, Does chromium has a buildin flashplayer?
[09:39] <ivan> chromium doesn't
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> bluepanter_: it uses pepperflash-plugin
[09:40] <ivan> bluepanter_: chrome might be blocking flash for the domain you're visiting. see the icon on the right side of the url bar
[09:40] <ivan> also, Content Settings -> Flash
[09:44] <dreamcat4> so i'm assuming i should install gnome-desktop on / after a clean ubuntu 16.04 desktop install?
[09:44] <rcfcv> Hello. I have made a script a that greps certain IP from a file, and I now want to add to some numbers to the greped IPs so that I can ping them. I want to add 127 and 253 to the end of the greped IPS. Any tips on how to do that?
[09:44] <dreamcat4> and not bother setting up unity anymore?
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> dreamcat4: the plans are that 18.04 will come with gnome shell by default
[09:46] <dreamcat4> wonder what's going to happen to the ubuntu live patch service now, since that is based on snap pkgs
[09:47] <dreamcat4> have recently started using that
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> !livepatch | dreamcat4
[09:47] <brainwash> snap is not dead (yet)
[09:48] <dreamcat4> i already know what it is
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | dreamcat4 start here
[09:48] <ducasse> dreamcat4: why should anything happen to livepatch/snap?
[09:49] <dreamcat4> i don't know. maybe because snap doesnt fit with flatpack / wayland, which is what other linux distros are moving to?
[09:49] <dreamcat4> and because ubuntu is axing MIR now too?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamcat4: use #ubuntu-discuss please
[09:50] <dreamcat4> i am asking support question
[09:50] <dreamcat4> (s)
[09:50] <ducasse> dreamcat4: you are mixing up a lot of different things, and discussions belong in -discuss as lotus says
[09:50] <dreamcat4> oh no! my line of questioning is so difficult to follow... NOT
[09:54] <bluepanter_> k1l, You were right. thanks
[09:56] <soupnanodesukar> Why don't my GTK apps have thumbnails in their file picker?
[10:02] <k1l_> dreamcat4: unity is still supported. and it will be for the support timeframe. its just that there is no new effort in development from canonical. livpatch service is not touched by any of the recent announcments at all. so i dont know what you mean
[10:03] <Adam3> Thanks k1l_ for clearing the AIR
[10:03] <cynicallemon> unity? whats that again...
[10:06] <no_gravity> Hello! I read that Ubuntu Unity is dead? Does that mean Ubuntu will get a real task bar again?
[10:07] <MustaKrakish> Gnome 3
[10:07] <no_gravity> IIRC Gnome 3 has no taskbar either.
[10:07] <k1l_> no_gravity: ubuntu will change to gnome-shell as standard desktop on 18.04.
[10:09] <no_gravity> k1l_: I see. I can't work with those desktops. I try every year or so for a few days and then return to a distro with a taskbar.
[10:09] <k1l_> no_gravity: which is not needed, since ubuntu ships a ton of other desktops
[10:10] <nimo1> Good afternoon
[10:10] <no_gravity> k1l_: Could be. But there also was that "we send your keystroke to the net" incident which I found disturbing.
[10:11] <k1l_> no_gravity: which is not true
[10:11] <k1l_> no_gravity: especially when you dont use unity.
[10:11] <no_gravity> k1l_: "Not true especially whan..." :)
[10:12] <k1l_> no_gravity: i doubt you call your browser "spyware" when it sends your "keystrokes" to the internet, when you put them in the "online search" field.
[10:12] <k1l_> no_gravity: but i guess your trolling attempt did not work, and we can focus again on technical support :)
[10:14] <soupnanodesukar> oh, i see, there's gnome bug for thumbnails in the filepicker that's been open for 13 years.
[10:14] <soupnanodesukar> never mind
[10:15] <no_gravity> k1l_: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[10:15] <no_gravity> k1l_: Also confirmed on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunity/+bug/1073114
[10:15] <k1l_> no_gravity: i explained this already. and the code and settings from 2012 have changed a lot since then
[10:15] <dreamcat4> ok thanks k1l_
[10:16] <no_gravity> k1l_: I did not say it did not change. I said my trust was decreased.
[10:16] <no_gravity> Cu
[10:16] <k1l_> no_gravity: its ok now. you dont want unity, you dont want gnome, you only come in here to troll. we got it
[10:18] <cynicallemon> k1l_: perhaps kde would be better, like in the good ol days
[10:21] <dreamcat4> ok so as a new user to ubuntu 16.04, should i install the official ubuntu + gnome desktop, or would i be better off installing "Ubuntu GNOME 16.04.2" instead? given that i am not going to be bothering with unity now anymore
[10:22] <k1l_> dreamcat4: you still can use unity. no need to be over dramatic about the recent announcment.
[10:22] <dreamcat4> i mean, given that i may wish to upgrade the 16.04 installation --> 18.04 in 2 years time?
[10:23] <dreamcat4> k1l_: i'm not being dramatic, i just dont see the point (as a brand new user) to invest time configuring something which isn't gonig to be supported in 2 years. wheras if i just jump in with gnome now, there won't be any awkward transition period for me to deal with later on.
[10:24] <dreamcat4> it actually makes the most sense, what i am doing.
[10:25] <k1l_> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop xenial
[10:27] <gardon> Please help
[10:27] <gardon> Volume is always mute
[10:27] <MustaKrakish> alsamixer
[10:27] <MustaKrakish> gardon, ^^
[10:28] <gardon> Yup and all are 00
[10:28] <MustaKrakish> then turn em up
[10:28] <gardon> Yup
[10:28] <MustaKrakish> or hit the 'm' key to unmute
[10:28] <gardon> Still not working
[10:28] <gardon> All are already 00
[10:28] <MustaKrakish> zero is zero
[10:28] <MustaKrakish> which card do you have selected?
[10:29] <gardon> Should it be MM or 00?
[10:29] <gardon> The thing is
[10:29] <gardon> It's working in the log in screen\
[10:29] <MustaKrakish> 00 then use the directional keys to turn them up
[10:29] <gardon> When I log in my ubuntu account
[10:29] <gardon> The sound is not working anymore
[10:30] <MustaKrakish> is there a AutoMute in there?
[10:30] <gardon> All of them are maxed out and 00
[10:30] <gardon> Yup
[10:30] <MustaKrakish> disable automute
[10:30] <gardon> Done
[10:30] <gardon> Still no sounds
[10:30] <MustaKrakish> should be sharp now
[10:30] <gardon> The volume button is not even working
[10:30] <MustaKrakish> you running pulse and alsa?
[10:31] <gardon> pulse?
[10:31] <MustaKrakish> pulseaudio
[10:31] <gardon> Nope
[10:31] <gardon> Just also
[10:31] <MustaKrakish> apt install pulseaudio
[10:31] <gardon> How do I do that pulseaudio
[10:31] <gardon> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done pulseaudio is already the newest version (1:9.0-2ubuntu2.1). pulseaudio set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:32] <MustaKrakish> is it started?
[10:32] <MustaKrakish> systemctl status pulseaudio
[10:33] <gardon> Ohh
[10:33] <gardon> It's alright now
[10:33] <gardon> I think it's on the player
[10:33] <gardon> I'm using SMPlayer
[10:33] <MustaKrakish> ah ok
[10:33] <MustaKrakish> yeah, no systemd service for pulseaudio my bad
[10:33] <gardon> There's still no sound
[10:33] <gardon> in the playert
[10:34] <MustaKrakish> try doing in terminal $ aplay /path/to/file
[10:34] <gardon> And the volume is still not working
[10:34] <jink> How can I make sure all ip addresses (ipv4 and ipv6) are available before I start a service on boot?  I'm running into problems with postfix.  It fails to bind, because the IP isn't ready, yet.  Apache httpd doesn't seem to have the same issue.
[10:34] <gardon> Fn+ Arrow up is supposed to increase the volume
[10:34] <MustaKrakish> apt purge pulseaudio | reboot | apt install pulseaudio
[10:35] <gardon> And there will be a pop up in the upper right corner, right?
[10:35] <MustaKrakish> gardon, in alsamixer make sure the levels are up
[10:35] <gardon> There's no pop up going on
[10:35] <MustaKrakish> otherwise remove pulse and reboot, reinstall it
[10:35] <MustaKrakish> I had issues with it yesterday
[10:35] <gardon> Heyy
[10:35] <gardon> Do u follow
[10:35] <gardon> There's no pop up going on
[10:35] <gardon> When I increase the volume
[10:35] <MustaKrakish> in alsamixer not the WM
[10:36] <gardon> WM?
[10:36] <MustaKrakish> windows manager
[10:36] <MustaKrakish> or desktop environment
[10:36] <gardon> No like the ordinary way of increasing the volume
[10:36] <gardon> FN + Arrow up
[10:36] <MustaKrakish> use alsamixer in the terminal
[10:36] <MustaKrakish> yeah, I know
[10:36] <MustaKrakish> brah just make sure the levels in alsamixer are up
[10:37] <gardon> Done
[10:38] <gardon> Then?
[10:38] <gardon> apt purge pulseaudio | reboot | apt install pulseaudio
[10:38] <gardon> That?
[10:38] <MustaKrakish> if theres still no sound do what i suggested and remove reboot install again
[10:38] <MustaKrakish> yeah
[10:38] <gardon> is that the whole command
[10:38] <MustaKrakish> no
[10:38] <gardon> or I have to reboot by myself?
[10:38] <gardon> Ok
[10:38] <MustaKrakish> purge first, then reboot, then once booted install pulseaudio again
[10:39] <ikonia> why would you purge and re-install pulse audio ?
[10:39] <ikonia> what benifit is that ?
[10:39] <MustaKrakish> if that doesn't work we'll look at other options
[10:39] <MustaKrakish> ikonia, worked for my issues yesterda
[10:39] <ikonia> that wasn't the question I asked
[10:39] <gardon> Alright I'll be back
[10:39] <ikonia> why would you re-install pulse audio - what benifit is that ?
[10:39] <MustaKrakish> ikonia, you help him then
[10:39] <ikonia> again - that wasn't the question I asked
[10:39] <gardon> Take note of the no pop up when I adjust the volume
[10:39] <gardon> BRB
[10:39] <gardon> I'm rebooting
[10:39] <ikonia> I'm asking you why you are suggesting re-installing pulse audio - for what benifit
[10:40] <MustaKrakish> ikonia, cos it sorted my issue yesterday
[10:40] <nanodrone> how do i assign custom shell script to the power button?
[10:40] <ikonia> is your issue the same as his ? what would the re-install do to fix it ?
[10:40] <MustaKrakish> no idea, it just fixed it
[10:40] <ikonia> is the actual problem even understood at this stage ?
[10:40] <ikonia> so have you any reason to think a re-install of pulse will fix this guys issue
[10:41] <MustaKrakish> it's just a suggestion
[10:41] <ikonia> is the actual problem even understood at this stage ?
[10:41] <MustaKrakish> he doesn't get sound even when all levels in alsamixer are up
[10:41] <MustaKrakish> with automute disabled aswell
[10:41] <ikonia> right - so do we know why, do we know what component isn't working, are there any pointers to suggest where the problem is
[10:42] <ikonia> or is the diags as simple as "audio not working" - "reinstall pulse audio and reboot"
[10:42] <MustaKrakish> my guess is pulse but that's why im suggesting he do that first, if not then it's something else
[10:42] <ikonia> so you're first step in diagnosing a problem is to reinstall a random component
[10:42] <MustaKrakish> its not random
[10:42] <ikonia> ok - it's fine, I just wanted to understand where this approach was coming from
[10:42] <MustaKrakish> how is pulseaudio a random component when it's about sound?
[10:42] <ikonia> MustaKrakish: it is random - what is leading you to believe the problem is pulse (I'm not saying it's not)
[10:43] <ikonia> MustaKrakish: because you have no idea if pulse is a problem or not,
[10:43] <MustaKrakish> ikonia, just curious that it might be
[10:43] <ikonia> a kernel module is to do with sound
[10:43] <ikonia> the volume app is to do with sound
[10:43] <ikonia> alsa is to do with sound
[10:43] <MustaKrakish> my next suggestion would have been to see what modules are loaded at boot
[10:43] <ikonia> should that not be the first thing to do
[10:43] <MustaKrakish> eh, swings and roundabouts
[10:43] <ikonia> not really
[10:44] <MustaKrakish> ok bor, you win
[10:44] <ikonia> random software re-installs are not diags or planned approach
[10:44] <MustaKrakish> you help him then
[10:44] <ikonia> have you looked at any of the logs
[10:44] <MustaKrakish> im done
[10:44] <ikonia> dissapointing
[10:44] <nanodrone> can you guys fight in private lol
[10:44] <ikonia> your approach is questioned and you don't help
[10:44] <ikonia> nanodrone: no-one is fighting, I'm just trying to understand the debug approach, sound issues are reasonably common,
[10:45] <nanodrone> okay...
[10:46] <MustaKrakish> ikonia, I got told to purge PulseAudio by one of the dudes in here before to sort out the issue
[10:46] <MustaKrakish> after I installed it again it all worked fine
[10:46] <MustaKrakish> I had very similar issues too
[10:46] <ikonia> MustaKrakish: thats fine, that doesn't mean thats the random thing to do for every sound issue
[10:46] <nanodrone> i have jack and pa and alsa all working together in harmony
[10:47] <ikonia> nanodrone: thats great, but not everyone sees that out of the box
[10:47] <nanodrone> it wasn't out of the box, i followed an askubuntu answer.
[10:47] <nanodrone> out-of-the-box was quite scary, i thought i messed up my install
[10:49] <nanodrone> ikonia, do you know how to assign custom actions to the power button, mine does nothing at all :(
[10:50] <gardon> Great
[10:50] <ikonia> nanodrone: custom actions, it's possible but you'd have to look at the event manager
[10:50] <gardon> Now even chromium dont work
[10:50] <ikonia> nanodrone: I certainly don't know off the top of my head,
[10:51] <ikonia> nanodrone: have to ask - why would you wnat a custom shell script for something that is just meant to trigger a shutdown event
[10:51] <gardon> F
[10:51] <gardon> Guys plz help
[10:51] <gardon> I purged pulseaudio
[10:51] <gardon> And then reinstalled it
[10:51] <MustaKrakish> gardon, please paste the output of lsmod
[10:51] <gardon> Now other stuffs dont work
[10:52] <MustaKrakish> as well as lshw
[10:52] <gardon> I cant
[10:52] <MustaKrakish> why?
[10:52] <gardon> Because the internet is not working in the pc
[10:52] <gardon> Im on mobile now
[10:52] <MustaKrakish> ah
[10:52] <MustaKrakish> tricky
[10:52] <nanodrone> ikonia, my laptop doesn't support normal sleeping, it has active sleep -_-, so i'm just trying to make it lock the display and turn off the screen and touch/pen with the powerbutton, there's no defaultsetting for it :(
[10:52] <MustaKrakish> do you know what chip your audio card is?
[10:52] <gardon> :(
[10:52] <gardon> What the fuck happened :'k
[10:52] <gardon> :(
[10:53] <MustaKrakish> did you have internet before?
[10:53] <ikonia> gardon: please don't swear
[10:53] <ikonia> it is not welcome here
[10:53] <gardon> Yup
[10:53] <gardon> I did
[10:53] <MustaKrakish> and now it's not working?
[10:53] <gardon> The internet is working through terminal
[10:53] <ikonia> nanodrone: could you not just assign that to either an "event" or even a desktop/gnome applet to just click, rahter than the power button ?
[10:53] <gardon> But not chromium
[10:53] <MustaKrakish> Pulseaudio has nothing to do with networking
[10:53] <gardon> Sorry
[10:53] <LEader055> I command this channel!
[10:53] <ikonia> LEader055: pretty sure you don't, so please don't mess around here, check the /topic
[10:53] <LEader055> I am the master of the Ubuntu computer system!
[10:53] <gardon> Where did the other settings go
[10:53] <LEader055> ok sorry ikonia
[10:54] <gardon> Cant search sound now
[10:54] <LEader055> is this  a social channel or tech chat pls?
[10:54] <MustaKrakish> gardon, apt install pastebinit
[10:54] <chr1ss> so
[10:54] <ikonia> LEader055: check the /topic
[10:54] <gardon> Sigh
[10:54] <gardon> Okay done
[10:54] <LEader055> the topic just contains a load of spam links?
[10:54] <gardon> Whats next
[10:55] <ikonia> LEader055: no it doesn't read it
[10:55] <acresearch> where is the best place to talk about desktop environments?
[10:55] <MustaKrakish> lshw | pastebinit
[10:55] <MustaKrakish> lsmod | pastebinit
[10:55] <chr1ss> hi leutz, kennt jemmand das proggy trafficserver
[10:55] <MustaKrakish> send links
[10:55] <ikonia> acresearch: in general, or in relation to ubuntu
[10:55] <JFox762> So when we switch to gnome... is the desktop environment going to feel the same?
[10:55] <LEader055> oh is this the actual official site? is it official from ubuntu themselves?
[10:55] <acresearch> ikonia: in general
[10:55] <nanodrone> ikonia, gnome-screensaver-command -l is assigned to the lock button in the volume-battery-wifi menu in gnome-sheel panel. it works nice but i wish i could assign that to the power button, that's what it used to do on win10
[10:55] <ikonia> acresearch: maybe ##linux
[10:55] <JFox762> Like are they going to Modify Gnome to feel more like Unity?
[10:55] <nanodrone> ikonia, it's as close as linux gets to emulating win10 active sleep for now
[10:56] <ikonia> LEader055: it is the official channel
[10:56] <ikonia> JFox762: no,
[10:56] <ikonia> JFox762: it will be "gnome"
[10:56] <LEader055> impressive
[10:56] <LEader055> sorry guys i thought it was just another irc channel
[10:56] <chr1ss> sry, i know, in english... my fail
[10:56] <acresearch> ikonia:  ok
[10:56] <ikonia> nanodrone: it is doable, I'm %90 sure I've personally done it a long time ago, and it was down to event management, I just can't remember the details
[10:56] <MustaKrakish> gardon, are you behind a proxy?
[10:56] <gardon> Paste.ubuntu.com/24333401/
[10:57] <gardon> Nope
[10:57] <gardon> Paste.ubuntu.com/24333403/
[10:57] <nanodrone> ikonia, what event management (is there a gui for that), how can i listen to acpid events :p
[10:57] <nanodrone> if i could just hack out a script real quick..
[10:57] <LEader055> nanodrone no hacking please
[10:58] <ikonia> nanodrone: somethign to keep in mind there are two things for this too, one the desktop interperating the power off event, and then the raw acpid event
[10:58] <JFox762> I'm actually kind of sad about the return to Gnome, I really like Unity... but I'm also really new to Ubuntu
[10:58] <gardon> I just want to watch a movie and all this happened lol
[10:58] <ikonia> nanodrone: event management is not a tool, it was apci events and replacing the call to a binary to something else
[10:58] <ikonia> I think it may have been done with hal in the earlier days,
[10:58] <nanodrone> ikonia, i set the power/sleep/hibernate buttons in dconf to 'nothing'
[10:58] <gardon> ikonia do you know the fix for my problem
[10:58] <ikonia> dconf is for the desktop though
[10:58] <ikonia> gardon: I'm not really following your problem to be honest,
[10:59] <MustaKrakish> hmm, I don't think it's a module issue
[10:59] <MustaKrakish> I see snd_hda_intel is loaded
[10:59] <gardon> The problem is that theres no control with the sound
[10:59] <nanodrone> it seems doable, but it will be an ugly hack at the end of the day :|
[10:59] <gardon> Btw
[10:59] <LEader055> gardon: Please state problem from the beginning. Please be descriptive and detailed.
[10:59] <gardon> Whenever I open my pc
[10:59] <gardon> It says running in low graphics mode
[10:59] <MustaKrakish> LEader055, stfu
[10:59] <ikonia> MustaKrakish: tone down the language
[10:59] <gardon> That might add something
[10:59] <MustaKrakish> gardon, dude, I think you have more issues than you're letting on
[11:00] <LEader055> than kyou ikonia
[11:00] <gardon> That
[11:00] <gardon> The low graphics mode
[11:00] <gardon> At startup
[11:00] <MustaKrakish> LEader055, scroll up
[11:00] <LEader055> just change the resolution, gardon?
[11:00] <gardon> Especially when I dont use the pc for a couple of hours
[11:00] <gardon> Then theres this keyring pop up
[11:01] <gardon> That asks for password
[11:01] <LEader055> this channel is so fair and honorable
[11:01] <gardon> Theres sound when Im watching just using the default video app
[11:01] <MustaKrakish> gardon, you're running hybrid graphics yes? Nvidia and Intel?
[11:01] <gardon> I disabled intel
[11:02] <nanodrone> there should be a rule: don't engage the trolls.
[11:02] <MustaKrakish> ok
[11:02] <gardon> Plz dont leave @Musta
[11:02] <gardon> Lmao
[11:02] <MustaKrakish> nvidia module is also loaded
[11:02]  * MustaKrakish is a lake troll
[11:02] <gardon> Otherwise my computer will forever have this problem
[11:03] <MustaKrakish> gardon, when did you last update?
[11:03] <LEader055> So... ubuntu. It's the future of computing.
[11:03] <LOL-sex-LOL> This is Hillary Clinton's vagina speaking
[11:03] <gardon> Minutes ago
[11:04] <Eightynine> What will happen to Ubuntu Gnome after Ubuntu switching from Unity to Gnome?
[11:04] <ikonia> LEader055: stop messing around - this is the last time you'll be asked
[11:04] <MustaKrakish> gardon, did you get asked to rebuild any modules?
[11:04] <gardon> What module
[11:04] <gardon> I dont recall any
[11:04] <k1l_> Eightynine: most possible is, that it will be merged to the standard desktop
[11:04] <Prototip> Eightynine: merge?
[11:04] <LEader055> sorry ikonia, i'm new to the world of linux and i'm so keen to learn it all
[11:04] <MustaKrakish> gardon, do you have dkms insalled?
[11:04] <ikonia> LEader055: no you're not - stop messing around
[11:04] <JFox762> Is Gnome generally regarded more favorably in the community than Unity?
[11:05] <gardon> I shut down the pc
[11:05] <MustaKrakish> installed*
[11:05] <gardon> Now it says its running in low graphics mode again
[11:05] <Prototip> One of the reasons I went over to Ubuntu from Fedora was Gnome... I'm using kubuntu now :)
[11:05] <gardon> Troubleshoot the error?
[11:05] <MustaKrakish> gardon, something is very wrong with that box
[11:05] <dswl> how can I fix my unity desktop? it just shows the desktop, no side/top panel etc
[11:05] <gardon> What should I do
[11:06] <Eightynine> Some people think Canonical is dying and Ubuntu will die too. That's just rumors?
[11:06] <gardon> I legit dont know anything lmao
[11:06] <MustaKrakish> do you have dkms installed?
[11:06] <EriC^^> dswl: try to open a terminal and type dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[11:06] <gardon> What is that
[11:06] <gardon> Dkms
[11:06] <k1l_> Eightynine: yes, that is just rumors.
[11:06] <MustaKrakish> dynamic kernel module support
[11:07] <brunch875> Canonical ceases development of a project and suddenly it's the apocalypse
[11:07] <brunch875> linux will be no more
[11:07] <gardon> I dont know
[11:07] <gardon> I had primusrun
[11:07] <Eightynine> Have you seen Mark here at least one time? I never seen him here.
[11:07] <MustaKrakish> gardon, like if you installed a driver or module outside the ubuntu repos
[11:07] <k1l_> Eightynine: this is the technical support channel
[11:07] <MustaKrakish> from source
[11:07] <gardon> How about primusrun
[11:08] <k1l_> !ot | Eightynine
[11:08] <gardon> I installed primusrun
[11:08] <Eightynine> I know.
[11:08] <gardon> Dont even know whats it for lmao
[11:08] <MustaKrakish> gardon, sounds like the nvidia driver uses dkms
[11:08] <gardon> Idk
[11:08] <brunch875> Eightynine: there's #ubuntu-discuss
[11:08] <Eightynine> Thank you.
[11:08] <dswl> ok i reset configuration and ran compliz, now all my windows have no bordeds and cluttered in the top leeft corner
[11:08] <gardon> What should i do
[11:08] <gardon> I really just wanted to watch a movie :*
[11:09] <gardon> :(
[11:09] <nanodrone> it is not the apocalypse, ubuntu will survive, unity was beautiful, they'll prolly just make ubuntu-gnome look a bit more "ubuntu-like" and maybe more usable out of the box.
[11:09] <gardon> The sound setting was messed up and now even the chromium
[11:09] <azidhaka> i just took a look at the current state of Gnome3 and Unity seems superior to me (speed and feature-wise). I hope Canonical does something with it
[11:09] <MustaKrakish> gardon, yeah, the chromium thing doesn't make sense
[11:10] <gardon> What do u guys do when everything fails
[11:10] <gardon> Reinstall ubuntu?
[11:10] <gardon> I think the whole settings was uninstalled
[11:10] <gardon> S
[11:10] <gardon> The sound cant even be searched
[11:10] <Prototip> gardon: we check the logs and use google
[11:10] <JFox762> I wish I could run Origin and EA Games on Linux :(
[11:11] <gardon> Logs of?
[11:11] <lyda> is generate-default-snakeoil gone completely from 16.04 lts?
[11:11] <Prototip> JFox762: you can..
[11:11] <JFox762> Not through Wine
[11:11] <lyda> is there some other way to create them?
[11:11] <JFox762> i mean, I wish I could run Origin and Origin games without having to use Wine*
[11:11] <dswl> how can I fix my unity desktop? it just shows the desktop, no side/top panel etc
[11:12] <gardon> MustaKrakish what now
[11:12] <gardon> :(
[11:12] <Prototip> JFox762: you can run a virtual windows machine using a dedicated GPU..  game on
[11:12] <JFox762> Can someone give me the #roomname for Ubuntu General?
[11:12] <MustaKrakish> gardon, I dunno man. Sounds like your system is in a bad way
[11:12] <MustaKrakish> gardon, was it all fine before the update?
[11:13] <gardon> It was fine yesterday
[11:13] <gardon> Like all fine
[11:13] <JFox762> Prototip, wouldn't that cost me performance vs. just running the games off of a dual boot?
[11:13] <MustaKrakish> yeah, sounds like something broke after the update
[11:13] <gardon> :(
[11:13] <gardon> Should I reinstall ubuntu?
[11:13] <Prototip> JFox762: emm.. but that would not be running games "on top" of linux, would it ;)
[11:14] <MustaKrakish> i you want, I cannot suggest that though
[11:14] <gardon> What else can we do
[11:14] <gardon> :(
[11:14] <MustaKrakish> would be incredibly defeatist
[11:14] <gardon> Its all messed up now
[11:14] <gardon> Ikonia can u plz help me
[11:14] <ikonia> gardon: with what ?
[11:14] <gardon> I purged pulseaudio
[11:14] <gardon> Reboot
[11:14] <ikonia> gardon: you'll do better asking the channel and explaining your problem
[11:14] <gardon> Then installed pulseaudio
[11:15] <gardon> Okay
[11:15] <gardon> The whole thing I guess?
[11:15] <gardon> Whenever I open my computer, theres this pc is running in low graphics mode
[11:15] <gardon> Then I select used generic configuration
[11:15] <gardon> Then it asks me to restart
[11:15] <gardon> I do that then everythings alright
[11:16] <gardon> Then today
[11:16] <gardon> The sound is not working
[11:16] <gardon> When I adjust the volume through fn + arrow keys, theres no pop up in the upper right corner
[11:16] <gardon> There is sound when using the Videos app
[11:16] <boriseto> Hi, I've installed the gnome desktop to test it cause I havent used it at all (with the news flying around, yeah) and I kinda made it look the way I wanted. When I tried using the gdm3 instead of lightdm, it gives me the login screen, but when entering my credentials it gives me a blank screen and nothing loads (noticed it switches to some of the ttys between 1,2 and 3.
[11:16] <boriseto> When trying going to the tty7 (the GUI one) it just gives me the login screen again. Any ideas how to fix it? I've reconfigured it already to use lightdm but I like the gdm more so just checking if somebody can guide me through this.
[11:17] <gardon> But theres no sound when using SMPlayer
[11:17] <dswl> how can i reinstall the unity destop from scratch?
[11:17] <gardon> So Musta said I do alsamixer and purge pulseaudio
[11:17] <gardon> Reboot an reinstall pulseaudio
[11:17] <nanodrone> boriseto, did you install ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[11:17] <gardon> Now, the settings is gone. I cant search for sound and Chromium's internet dont work as well
[11:17] <gardon> Ikonia thats the whole thing
[11:18] <ikonia> gardon: again, I'm not following your problem - ask the channel
[11:18] <nanodrone> boriseto, i switch to gnome from unity like a week ago, haven't had too many problems, all fixable tiny issues
[11:18] <nanodrone> switched*
[11:18] <gardon> :(
[11:18] <gardon> I explained it right from the start
[11:19] <gardon> *sigh*
[11:19] <gardon> Plz help
[11:19] <artem> ,
[11:19] <artem> ?
[11:19] <gardon> MustaKrukash u gone?
[11:20] <boriseto> nanodrone: yeap. and the only thing i dislike is the lightdm. gdm seems better and i like the way it handles pass input and all
[11:20] <dswl> is unity session a gnome session with compiz windows manager?
[11:21] <nanodrone> boriseto, try #ubuntu-gnome someone there might be able to help
[11:22] <k1l_> dswl: yes, unity (unity7) is "another" gnome-shell on the gnome base
[11:22] <boriseto> nanodrone: oh tnx
[11:23] <dswl> so what i need to do to get that panel on the left running?
[11:24] <k1l_> dswl: a 3d video driver running
[11:25] <gardon> MustaKrakish what now
[11:25] <dswl> i have one
[11:27] <dreamer> hi all, anyone here with (x)ubuntu on a macb-pro that has working suspend/hibernate-resume? it's one of my last annoyances with this thing
[11:28] <JFox762> What is the Ubuntu General chat room name?
[11:28] <DJones_> JFox762: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <JFox762> thanks
[11:29] <JFox762> I need to be identified with services?
[11:29] <JFox762> I thought I did that all ready
[11:29] <k1l_> JFox762: you need to login on ever connect to freenode
[11:30] <k1l_> *every
[11:30] <dswl> help?
[11:31] <k1l_> dswl: does the guest account work?
[11:31] <minimec> dswl: That is correct.
[11:31] <MustaKrakish> gardon, sorry, food
[11:33] <dswl> k1l_: no
[11:33] <k1l_> dswl: then its a 3d video driver issue. look at Xorg.0.log in /var/log
[11:46] <fadavi> hello there. please help me to diagnose and solve problems of my laptop in ubuntu. (ASUS N552VW)
[11:48] <JFox762> refresh my memory
[11:48] <JFox762> how do I login to freenode?
[11:49] <riidom> with /msg NickServ identify MYPW
[11:50] <JFox762> ls
[11:50] <JFox762> oops
[11:58] <jamesleimer> morning
[12:04] <menace> when ubuntu scraps mir, will snap confine applications for wayland/weston instead?
[12:04] <mcphail> menace: eventually
[12:04] <jamesleimer> im glad they'll be getting rid of unity...
[12:05] <Sinned> terminal ftw
[12:05] <mcphail> menace: see sabdfl's response at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/07/%23snappy.html
[12:05] <jamesleimer> im using cinnamon now...couldnt get gnome to work for some reason
[12:11] <bluepanter_> Is there a way to do a Domain whois check via Terminal?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:11] <JP__> "/whois username"
[12:12] <bluepanter_> JP__, Not on irc.
[12:12] <bluepanter_> JP__, Ubuntu terminal and website domain name
[12:12] <Guest5571> bluepanter_, sudo apt install whois
[12:13] <Sinned> I would use dig
[12:13] <Guest5571> bluepanter_, whois domain
[12:13] <bluepanter_> Guest5571,  thanks
[12:13] <bluepanter_> Sinned,  what is dig?
[12:14] <Sinned> a tool which can query dns servers for info
[12:15] <Sinned> handy if you got issues with domain pointing
[12:15] <bluepanter_> Sinned, I mostly wonder about Expire dates... dig didn't state that info
[12:17] <Sinned> you need whois for that idd :)
[12:18] <Sinned> whois <sitename> |egrep -i 'Expiration|Expires on'
[12:19] <Guest19379> Jimmys
[12:19] <menace> mcphail: thanks!
[12:20] <RadarG> my Ubuntu server is running 16.04 for the past several weeks some of my services have not been starting up on boot like they are suppose too. I was hoping someone can walk me though fixing it. I'll make sure I take notes that way I can fix it myself next time
[12:21] <Sinned> what devices exactly?
[12:22] <RadarG> sonarr,radarr, and several others
[12:23] <RadarG> they use mono
[12:23] <bluepanter_> db@dbpc:~$  saral-yatirim.com |egrep -i 'Expiration|Expires on'
[12:23] <bluepanter_> saral-yatirim.com: command not found
[12:23] <Sinned> you forgot the whois ;-)
[12:23] <bluepanter_> :)
[12:24] <Sinned> wtf is sonarr/radarr :D haha
[12:24] <RadarG> applications
[12:24] <Sinned> Ah, so no devices ;)
[12:25] <RadarG> devices no. I services that stop working and will not start on boot
[12:25] <fadavi> hello. i've a problem with my new laptop. in a dark screen, when a part of screen get lighter, whole brightness changes! :D i could'nt describe it better! anyone seen this before?
[12:26] <RadarG> fadavi, you might want to make a video and put it up on youtube for us to see
[12:26] <Sinned> RadarG if you do systemctl status <servicename>
[12:26] <Sinned> can you paste output in pastebin?
[12:26] <ivan> fadavi: which laptop? you might have one with 'dynamic contrast ratio'
[12:27] <fadavi> ivan: ASUS N552VW
[12:27] <ivan> https://superuser.com/questions/540335/laptop-monitor-brightness-changes-depending-on-image-displayed
[12:29] <fadavi> ivan: ammm.. thanks for link. my graphic card is NVIDIA GeForce. that link says its a feature. i taught its a problem. is it true?
[12:29] <RadarG> Sinned, I ran the command but I do not see anything weird other than I started the service back up via SSH over 4hrs ago
[12:30] <fadavi> ivan: for example, when im using emacs, because of dark background of my config, as cursor blinks, screen brightness blinks, too.
[12:30] <ivan> fadavi: depends on how you want to look at it :-)
[12:31] <ivan> fadavi: check the nvidia settings, there might be something
[12:31] <Sinned> RadarG ok.. systemctl enable radarr.service
[12:31] <Sinned> try to reboot and see if it autostarts?
[12:31] <Sinned> if not started after reboot, run the status
[12:32] <Sinned> https://github.com/Radarr/Radarr/wiki/Autostart-on-Linux --> this
[12:33] <fadavi> ivan: thanks :) totally, N552VW is a good device with nice configuration.. but its not compatible with GNU/Linux and Free Software :(
[12:34] <Sinned> If it still does not autostart RadarG, check the log of specified service in /var/log folder. There should be some reason stated why it could not start at boot.
[12:35] <ivan> fadavi: there might also be something in /sys/class/backlight
[12:36] <RadarG> so reading the link what does it mean by "Be sure to change the User, Group and path for both mono and Radarr.exe to match your installation"
[12:37] <fadavi> ivan: in that directory, there's one directory named "intel_backlight"
[12:42] <RadarG> Sinned, I ran the two commands "systemctl enable radarr.service" and "systemctl start radarr.service" it "Authentication is required to manage system service or unit files." I used my main user account is this going to work on reboot?
[12:50] <bonsaitree> Can someone recommend a good up-to-date anti-virus or anti-malware software for Linux?
[12:51] <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[12:54] <ducasse> !virus | bonsaitree
[12:55] <bonsaitree> ducasse:I read an article about botnets, so normally, you would think how secure your Linux is, although it is known that it's more secure than Windows.
[12:56] <bonsaitree> ducasse:Also, i am experiencing sluggish performance in the GUI and also have noticed a decrease in network bandwidth, so i am suspect some kind of malware is running on my machine.
[12:56] <bonsaitree> so i suspect*
[12:57] <RadarG> bonsaitree, malware is possible. Its rare but I have seen it,
[12:58] <LordLupus> Hello guys!
[12:58] <LordLupus> Do you remember me?
[12:58] <LordLupus> Could you help me with something?
[12:59] <ducasse> !ask | LordLupus
[12:59] <LordLupus> I want to configure my Ubuntu Server in VirtualBox with a Hamachi Network, and only who is connected on it is able to connect to my SSH Server. Is that possible?
[13:00] <LordLupus> !ask
[13:00] <LordLupus> Okay.
[13:04] <jaawerth> LordLupus: I've never used Hamachi, but it's definitely possible. After setting up the VPN, it should be as simple as configuring the firewall (easy with ufw) to block ssh except for the VPN's subnet
[13:05] <jaawerth> LordLupus: best to keep it in-channel rather than over PM - I don't have a ton of time and in-channel others can chip in if you need help after I go
[13:08] <jaawerth> LordLupus: anyway, so is the VPN already set up and you need help connecting to it, or..?
[13:09] <jaawerth> LordDeath: again, please respond here rather than in PM - that way others can chip in
[13:10] <jaawerth> LordDeath: but to make sure I understand where you are now.. you said you just installed ubuntu server in your vm. Does the VPN network already exist, and you need your server joined to it, or..?
[13:10] <LordDeath> wrong highlight ^^
[13:11] <rd45> if i downloaded the current daily build now, would I need to update to the final release next week by reformatting or can I just update via sudo apt update / the software updater utility
[13:11] <jaawerth> whoops
[13:11] <jaawerth> sorry, too many lords around here
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> rd45: you can update via apt
[13:12] <jaawerth> LordLupus: see my above two comments (sent to the wrong Lord, lol)
[13:12] <cfhowlett> seems like anyone can be a lord these days.
[13:12] <jaawerth> personally I'm more of a Duke
[13:12] <rd45> so if I reformat now with the new release it won't make much of a difference?
[13:13] <rd45> versus waiting until next week
[13:13] <cfhowlett> reformat?  this ain't windows ...
[13:13] <rd45> I always update with a clean install
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> rd45: next week will get you the official release with all kinds of new packages
[13:13] <Sinned> to what do you wish to release?
[13:14] <rd45> lotuspsychje but I can download all of those official release packages from the beta release?
[13:15] <Sinned> just do an apt upgrade, and stay on LTS version if your on ubuntu. I dont advice going for 16.10 for example. But up to you.
[13:15] <rd45> I'm on 16.10 right now actually
[13:16] <rd45> I usually run the most recent without issues
[13:16] <ikonia> sky W
[13:16] <ikonia> oops
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> rd45: have another week patience?
[13:16] <Sinned> Ok
[13:16] <sandra_> I cant upgrade my ubuntu i having probles with it
[13:17] <Sinned> sandra_ what problems?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> whats going on sandra_ ?
[13:17] <rd45> lotuspsychje yeah haha I guess i'll wait
[13:17] <sandra_> i have a red circle with a minues in it
[13:17] <rd45> lotuspsychje it would just be easier for me if I did it this week
[13:17] <ducasse> rd45: if you get the daily now you will have the exact same system as downloading and installing upon release provided you install updates
[13:17] <ikonia> rd45: then do it ?
[13:17] <Sinned> idd, just schedule it in apt upgrades
[13:17] <ikonia> rd45: "I run the latest ubuntu's without problem" then why are you having this discussion
[13:17] <jaawerth> oh wow, time for 17.04 already?
[13:17] <rd45> ducasse: ok, that's what I wanted to know
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !17.04 | jaawerth
[13:18] <rd45> I wasn't sure if I could update to the 'final' release from the latest beta image
[13:18] <regdude> Hi! Im having problems installing Ubuntu and I have a hunch that there is a problem with graphics drivers. Is it possible to start the Ubuntu installation in command line interface and later install the Unity/KDE/Something ?
[13:18] <rd45> via sudo apt update
[13:18] <Sinned> I still never advice to go away from LTS builds :)
[13:18] <jaawerth> hehe yeah I just pulled up the release schedule. It seems like they're getting faster, but I think I'm just getting older (and therefore time moves faster)
[13:18] <Sinned> advice never*
[13:19] <ikonia> regdude: that seems the worst way to deal with a problem
[13:19] <ducasse> regdude: use the server image
[13:19] <ikonia> regdude: why don't you tell us the problem - rather than tell us the solution you want
[13:19] <Sinned> What ikonia says :D
[13:19] <rd45> ducasse thanks for clarifying
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> sandra_: can you explain us the whole story? ubuntu version? what happens when?
[13:20] <jaawerth> yeah, I mean, an LTS release is best for work machines and the like but if you don't mind doing a backup/restore...
[13:20] <rd45> does no one else install new releases from a reformatted hdd?
[13:20] <jaawerth> though personally if you like being so up-to-date that you're always jumping to versions, not just LTS, might as well install Debian Testing
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> rd45: if you mean clean installs, yes some do
[13:21] <rd45> lotuspsychje yeah that's what I mean
[13:21] <rd45> it's what I typically do
[13:21] <Sinned> jaawerth true :) its just I work in huge productional environments hehe, so I never do that :D
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> rd45: but thats not really nescecary
[13:21] <regdude> <ikonia: I think that Ubuntu does not detect newer Nvidia GPUs properly and gets stuck at the loading screen while running the installer. This seems to be a problem for most distributions. I managed to get a workaround by installing Kali (also Debian) and blacklisting the nvidia module (something like novou*)
[13:21] <ikonia> regdude: so your problem is the installer
[13:21] <jaawerth> Sinned: yeah, I keep LTS on my main work machine, and a rolling distro on my laptop
[13:21] <ducasse> rd45: i usually just upgrade, rarely have problems. remove ppa packages first and you should be fine.
[13:21] <jaawerth> and all my servers are LTS, naturally
[13:21] <Sinned> :)
[13:22] <ikonia> regdude: what have you tried to do within the ubuntu installer to counter this ?
[13:22] <regdude> ikonia: the GUI installer, CLI works fine
[13:22] <jaawerth> rd45: no, I'm with you - when you want to ensure stability, doing a clean install is best. But then, if you want to ensure stability, you'd only use LTS :D
[13:22] <rd45> ducasse what packages do you remove
[13:22] <ducasse> rd45: i remove anything from ppas
[13:22] <rd45> jaawerth I should probably just run LTS and update regularly
[13:23] <regdude> ikonia: nothing, since there isnt much you can do (cant pass any parameters to the kernel at boot). For instance, using sysrescuecd with VESA drivers works fine
[13:23] <Adam3> Even non LTS installers are okay. I have been trying them often
[13:23] <Sinned> ducasse I think a upgrade does clear the custom repos allrdy
[13:23] <Sinned> :)
[13:23] <ikonia> regdude: you can pass in boot arguments
[13:23] <jaawerth> rd45: yeah, if there's newer software you want than is available, you can always just add the upstream apt sources for those packages
[13:23] <ducasse> Sinned: just disables them
[13:23] <Sinned> yea
[13:23] <regdude> ikonia: really? How? Is there a way to disable Xorg drivers?
[13:23] <rd45> jaawerth don't know how to do that to be honest
[13:23] <Sinned> I never remove em atleast ;p
[13:24] <ikonia> regdude: F6 I think puts you into the boot options editor
[13:24] <regdude> ikonia: oh, didnt know, thanks! Will try it out at some point
[13:24] <Adam3> regdude: just uninstall them after the OS install
[13:25] <ikonia> Adam3: the os doesn't install, his problem is with the installer
[13:25] <regdude> Adam3: cant get past the loading screen since it loads all the modules at that point
[13:26] <Adam3> regdude: Install the Server version. Then do modify that after the install to a Desktop version
[13:26] <ducasse> rd45: it's not recommended and totally unsupported to use third-party apt sources
[13:26] <rd45> oh ok
[13:27] <Adam3> See the Server version won't need the GUI but you can install the GUI after the server Version installs
[13:27] <Adam3> tweak it around
[13:27] <regdude> Adam3: after install, simply apt-get unity (or the GUI package)? Nothing more should be done in order to convert server image to a desktop image?
[13:28] <ducasse> regdude: just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[13:28] <rickety> i was running dual screen, and then removed one, and my original screen has cut off icons and folders i use, ( like the new screen is too small for the desktop, but it worked in the beginning just fine, is this something i can fix with ubuntu? or is this hardware?
[13:28] <Adam3> regdude: what release are you trying to install?
[13:28] <alkisg> regdude: if you press f6 on desktop installation,  you get a menu with options like nomodeset to disable drivers
[13:29] <regdude> ducasse: thanks!
[13:29] <jaawerth> rd45: it's not without risk but a lot of software that releases to apt also has their own apt repos - so you can get versions on a faster release schedule, but with higher potential for bugs if they miss any on the faster release
[13:29] <alkisg> regdude: https://i.stack.imgur.com/X6dvz.png
[13:29] <jaawerth> ah too late
[13:29] <jaawerth> as ducasse saidd, not really recommended anyway unless you're comfortable with the potential results
[13:29] <Adam3> ducasse: perfect. Thanks mate
[13:30] <regdude> Adam3: the newest available at the ubuntu homepage (desktop version)
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> rickety: did you check your screen settings in ubuntu?
[13:30] <regdude> alkisg: thanks! modesetting driver seems to be broken for me
[13:30] <alkisg> OK, so that way you can work around it
[13:30] <Adam3> regdude: Works fine here.
[13:30] <Adam3> What Machine are you installing it on!
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> rickety: perhaps an xrandr --auto to fix?
[13:32] <regdude> Adam3: MSI GL62 6QF, it has built in Intel and built in Nvidia 960M
[13:32] <rickety> im at the heighest resolution for the settings, and things are still cut off,, do i run that exactly into the terminal?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> rickety: you can try first to change resolutions, see if it can fix?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> rickety: you see only 1 built-in display in your settings right?
[13:34] <rickety> lotu nope, i changed it to get the most of what i could of the missing icons, but there are still more missing and its at its highest, yes only the one
[13:35] <markm2017> i love ubuntu
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> rickety: ok try the xrandr --auto from terminal, see what it does?
[13:36] <rickety> xrandr --auto ( does nothing
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> rickety: did you try plugout/in back your screen cable?
[13:36] <rickety> lol that i havnt tried lol 1 sec
[13:37] <rickety> yeah nope,
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> rickety: how about a reboot tested?
[13:38] <rickety> i have, same problem
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[13:38] <Adam3> regdude: Wow that's a strong machine you got there.
[13:38] <Adam3> See if you have good Internet, then trying doing a NET install. It should just fine for you.
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> rickety: does the settings show your native resolution?
[13:38] <alkisg> rickety: What's the output of this? xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:38] <Adam3> regdude: You seem to not be the only one having issues with that machine. Boss
[13:39] <rickety> http://termbin.com/b9it
[13:40] <alkisg> rickety: and your native resolution is 1366x768 ? Why don't you set that one?
[13:41] <rickety> said effect loses more icons,
[13:41] <regdude> Adam3: a decent machine to watch youtube with chrome. Where did you find that others have issues too? It seems that some desktop PCs have this issue too, but cant give any details, noticed this problem with PCs with Nvidias
[13:41] <rickety> screen gets smaller ?
[13:41] <alkisg> rickety: which monitor is this? brand/model?
[13:42] <Adam3> I have another Chat I am connected too for Arch and guys have similar issues
[13:42] <Adam3> regdude: I have another Chat I am connected too for Arch and guys have similar issues
[13:43] <rickety> its a westinghouse tv, connected via hdmi
[13:44] <alkisg> rickety: I've seen some TVs that have overscan options, that need to be corrected from the tv remote control, like e.g. "16/9" or "full" or "wide" options
[13:44] <alkisg> rickety: and in one toshiba case, hdmi wouldn't work well at all, and vga connection was needed
[13:44] <alkisg> rickety: I'd suggest that you try with the native one, 1366x768, and then see the remote control options
[13:45] <regdude> Adam3: could be, I tried Gentoo, Sysrescue cd, Kali and maybe something more. Something is wrong, though Windows works fine. I suspect that the "GPU switching" doesnt work right by default
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> rickety: perhaps try that Fn + screenswitch key also or a lightdm restart?
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> rickety: this all happened after your second screen was plugged out right?
[13:47] <rickety> give me 1 sec
[13:49] <CRPL> Hello. I have a problem mounting a NFS share; I can mount it on my personal PC, but when I try to mount it on a virtualized server it gives me ”mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting xx.xx.xx.xx:/share/”. Any idea will be appreciated. Thank you.
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | CRPL
[13:49] <rickety> yup lotu
[13:49] <Adam3> regdude: well Install server Ubuntu then perhaps install the gnome UI via sudo apt install gnome gnome-utils
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> rickety: your tv has also an auto resize button?
[13:50] <Adam3> regdude: I am sure  you should have your self Linux finally running on your system
[13:50] <CRPL> lotuspsychje, the server works fine as I just mentioned; I can mount the share on any desktop in the network, but I cannot mount it on any virtualized server (5 servers virtualized in the same network).
[13:50] <rickety> alk starting  with my standard resolution, on the tv, i can turn on overscan or switch to full or wide, but it changes nothing
[13:51] <ducasse> CRPL: make sure the exports file on the server allows the vms to mount the share
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> rickety: try a sudo service lightdm restart perhaps
[13:52] <alkisg> rickety: use tab to autocomplete usernames in irc. So 4/3 and 16/9 don't change anything? That sounds strange...
[13:52] <SimonNL> rickety: see if there's a setting just saying "only scan"
[13:53] <SimonNL> rickety: or something similar. onthe TV that is.
[13:53] <rickety> lotu i type that exactly?, alk i dont understand
[13:53] <nimo1> I am trying to install an Centos server using KVM on my Ubuntu system. Seems its having trouble reading the installation ISO. Searched several forums and tried every solution out there. Anyone have suggestions?
[13:53] <rickety> simon ive tried
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> rickety: yeah try
[13:53] <regdude> Adam3: should be fine, just needed a way to get around loading the graphics card modules, ubuntu is great for when you want to install something and dont know all the packages, so I should be fine. Thanks for the help!
[13:54] <SimonNL> rick to bad
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> fingers crossed for lightdm
[13:55] <Adam3>  regdude: Anytime buddie. I am gonna try working on that Issue to see a way out.
[13:55] <CRPL> ducasse, here is my exports, the error on server and the result on desktop : https://pastebin.com/jJSeN6sT
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> rickety: any luck?
[13:56] <rickety> lotu, it worked kinda, it condensed all the missing icons to the edges of the available screen,
[13:56] <compdoc> nimo1, what happens? any error messages?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> rickety: can you make a screenshot of that for us?
[13:57] <ducasse> CRPL: the vm and desktop are on the same subnet?
[13:57] <rickety> i moved them right away to make sure i had them all,.....
[13:57] <CRPL> ducasse, yes
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> rickety: so it fixxed now?
[13:58] <ducasse> CRPL: look at the server logs, see what the exact error is
[13:58] <nimo1> Sure hang on ill get the error message
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> afternoon HamRadio
[13:58] <CRPL> unfortunately I can't find any NFS logs on the server (maybe I'm looking in the wrong logs)
[13:59] <rickety> lotu yeah it is, i know this will happen again, this is just the first time i couldnt recover folders that were sitting there, any thoughts as to future fixes?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> !yay | rickety
[13:59] <hanasaki> how do you create a new key for ddns updates used in bind and dhcp servers?
[13:59] <ikonia> or an rndc key
[13:59] <ikonia> you mean an omapi key
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> rickety: well unity does some screen disforms sometimes when playing around with dual screen plug/out/in
[14:00] <rickety> ok, thank you muchness
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> rickety: welcome
[14:00] <CRPL> ducasse, any tip on where can I look for NFS logs ?
[14:01] <ducasse> CRPL: what kind of server is this?
[14:01] <CRPL> openmediavault
[14:01] <hanasaki> ikonia:  was that for me ? your comment?
[14:01] <ikonia> hanasaki: yes
[14:01] <aditya3098> hehe
[14:01] <aditya3098> unity
[14:01] <aditya3098> hehehehe
[14:01] <aditya3098> hehehe
[14:01] <aditya3098> hehe
[14:01] <hanasaki> ikonia:  elaborate please?   sorry. I am somewhat lost.
[14:02] <CRPL> ducasse, Linux openmediavault 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.13-1~bpo8+1 (2017-02-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:02] <ducasse> CRPL: then you need to get support from them. it's the server that denies the vm, so the problem lies there.
[14:02] <ikonia> hanasaki: if you don't uderstand what I'm asking - why are you trying to create a new key ?
[14:02] <CRPL> thank you ducasse
[14:02] <ducasse> CRPL: np
[14:05] <nimo1> here is the error i get https://justpaste.it/15a1t
[14:06] <ikonia> nimo1: look at the error !
[14:06] <ikonia> nimo1: permissions on the temp directory hosting hte cneots ISO]
[14:07] <nimo1> yes i know... and ive tried to change every possible solution
[14:07] <ikonia> nimo1: unlikely
[14:08] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is the host system nimo1
[14:08] <nimo1> Ubuntu 17.04
[14:08] <ikonia> nimo1: right so pre-release, nice job
[14:09] <ikonia> nimo1: so #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for the not yet supported pre-release products
[14:10] <compdoc> nimo1, when I use virt-manager to install from an iso file, it changes permissions on the file autmatically
[14:10] <helpless> Hi guys, how do I change icons in ubuntu dash? I already tried going to /usr/share/applications and changing the .desktop icon but it is not working
[14:10] <ikonia> it can't change the permissions of a file it can't access
[14:13] <helpless> Even if I try to change the icon theme there are a few icons that ignore the changes and look absolutely horrible, any idea how to fix these icons?
[14:14] <helpless> http://i.imgur.com/UdiVn4Q.jpg
[14:14] <helpless> I already tried going to /usr/share/applications and change the icons manually as well as change icon themes
[14:14] <ikonia> helpless: probably because they are not defined in the icon theme
[14:15] <helpless> They are
[14:15] <Duality> i am having trouble with a package called spark (a chat client)
[14:15] <helpless> They used to look neat
[14:15] <Duality> it won't run and says: https://pastebin.com/xknupvtM
[14:15] <AAAntipsychiatry> Heloo evwrybody
[14:15] <helpless> I guess installing pip broke them
[14:15] <Duality> i already install the jre
[14:16] <AAAntipsychiatry> Hello to everybody!!!!!!
[14:17] <Duality> does that it says atleast 1.8 is required meen that i have to install openjdk 8 ?
[14:17] <AAAntipsychiatry> Exist ubuntu for smartphones???? I have a Samsung phone j56
[14:18] <ikonia> helpless: how do you know they are
[14:18] <compdoc> AAAntipsychiatry, they seem to be moving away from phones now
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !touch | AAAntipsychiatry
[14:19] <darthanubis> AAAntipsychiatry, https://www.ubuntu.com/mobile
[14:19] <ikonia> the roadmap for phones and tablets is in question now
[14:19] <darthanubis> Last I ran it , it was cool. But that was 2+ years ago
[14:19] <ikonia> so I wouldn't trust those links
[14:19] <RadarG> can someone look at this file and tell me why it is not starting. https://pastebin.com/xYFB8tAf
[14:20] <darthanubis> The road leads to a dead end. They are done with phones.
[14:20] <RadarG> systemd is a pain
[14:20] <ikonia> RadarG: it's a windows file ?
[14:20] <ikonia> RadarG: that seems to be a bad starting point
[14:20] <ikonia> systemd is not a problem
[14:21] <AAAntipsychiatry> Compdoc thank you
[14:21] <ikonia> RadarG: what does the startup journal show
[14:21] <Adam3> RadarG: So dame right man
[14:23] <RadarG> it is a file that is ran with mono. the error is below on my pastebin
[14:23] <ikonia> what happens when you manaully run it
[14:23] <ikonia> the post start looks bad
[14:25] <stevessss> http://www.androidauthority.com/ubuntu-unity-dead-back-gnome-762194/
[14:25] <ikonia> stevessss: yes ?
[14:26] <stevessss> is back to gnome real?   how does this impact removing Xorg?
[14:26] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with xorg
[14:26] <Menzador> First, yes, the move back to GNOME is real.
[14:26] <stevessss> thats better ... its used by most desktop distros
[14:26] <Adam3> stevessss: That's right mate. Gnome is the real deal.
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel guys
[14:27] <stevessss> also if gnome project makes mobile interface that has much better adoption potential than somethign by just one distro
[14:27] <Menzador> Second, ikonia is right. You still have the option to use Xorg or Wayland with GNOME. And yes, let's move this to #ubuntu-discuss
[14:27] <RadarG> I can run the command "sudo mono --debug /opt/ombi/Ombi.exe" and the application runs fine
[14:27] <RadarG> I'm just trying to get it to run as a service
[14:27] <ikonia> RadarG: you can run it as the plex user ?
[14:28] <AAAntipsychiatry> Who think is the best kind of smartphone best in baterry long life??????? please write
[14:28] <ikonia> AAAntipsychiatry: offtopic for this channel
[14:29] <RadarG> ikanobori, yes
[14:29] <ikonia> RadarG: so then the post command as the plex user would be the logical problem
[14:30] <RadarG> what post command can you explain further
[14:30] <ikonia> RadarG: the one that you've defined in your script as "post"
[14:31] <grogoreo> hi
[14:32] <ikonia> what is ssh -t
[14:32] <ikonia> I don't see ssh -t listed in the man page
[14:32] <grogoreo> I'm trying to get HDMI audio working to my TV and having tried the guides on google haven't had any luck. Is this a general issue that you can get a picture but no audio?
[14:32] <nicomachus> ikonia: it's there
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: did you change the audio settings aswell?
[14:33] <nicomachus> "force pseudo-terminal allocation...."
[14:33] <ikonia> nicomachus: got it, thank you
[14:34] <RadarG> ikonia, I copied this from another script. What does this ExecStartPost line do?
[14:34] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: yes. It's displayed in the list but when using gnome-alsamixer no sliders show.
[14:34] <ikonia> RadarG: right, so you're just blindly copying a sript
[14:34] <ikonia> script
[14:34] <RadarG> it worked for the other app that I have that runs mono
[14:34] <ikonia> RadarG: you can't just assume all mono applications will need the same systemd unit files
[14:35] <hehe1> nicomachus: why -t isn't present in synopsis?
[14:35] <ikonia> nicomachus: yeah, please explain an author's thought process in a man page from 9 years ago
[14:35] <nicomachus> hehe1: they don't list everything in the synopsis. it seems like a rare option. Just what I gleaned from mind-reading
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: in sounds/settings can you see hdmi audio?
[14:36] <hehe1>  ikonia:hey tou asked the ques
[14:36] <ikonia> hehe1: no i didn't
[14:36] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: yes, it's listed.
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: what happens when you swith to it?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> switch
[14:38] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: no error comes up, just nothing. I tried aplay -D plughw and went through all the options and no output. I'm upgrading to 17.04 now to see if that changes anything.
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: did you have sound before on this same hdmi cable?
[14:40] <ConsoleFx> hey folks, curious to know ,what this script does in general? http://dpaste.com/04MEXM8
[14:40] <ConsoleFx> And, what would happen if i add one more if condition block and make it like: if [ $USER != "admin" ]; then
[14:40] <hehe1> ikonia: Really? "I don't see ssh -t listed in the man page", that's not a ques?
[14:40] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: no but I've only tried this cable. A friend of mine was having similar problems so just wondered if it was just one of those things.
[14:40] <AAAntipsychiatry> Help me pleaseEEe against    Israel   police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They put me by lies in prison then in Abarbanel psychiatric yard ! :((
[14:41] <paven> whoa
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> !ot | AAAntipsychiatry
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: i presume your on 16.10? did you try this on LTS?
[14:43] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: I've only tried 16.10 on this system as it's new
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: perhaps try a 16.04.2 liveusb as a test hmdi audio, to compare?
[14:45] <grogoreo> lotuspsychje: thanks. I'll see how this 17.04 update goes but will try that if no change
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> grogoreo: allrighty, good luck
[14:56] <AAAntipsychiatry> Help me pleaseEEe against    Israel   police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They put me by lies in prison then in Abarbanel psychiatric yard ! :((
[14:57] <Haohmaru> okay, we're coming.. we'll kick the police's a$$ and rescue you, princess
[15:02] <RadarG> will scp resume a broken transfer?
[15:03] <RadarG> Haohmaru, you got that too huh. It was sending me PMs
[15:05] <nacc> RadarG: not by default, i don't think so
[15:09] <riccardo__> Hello so I am connected from my PC. If I install the beta 2 of Ubuntu 17.04 does it get updated to 17.04 final?
[15:10] <nacc> riccardo__: #ubuntu+1 for support, but yes
[15:11] <cuddleage> yo
[15:11] <cuddleage> its an emergency
[15:11] <cuddleage> i need ur helps
[15:12] <nacc> !ask | cuddleage
[15:14] <jamesleimer> hello
[15:15] <cuddleage> jamesleimer how do i zip
[15:15] <cuddleage> in ubuntu
[15:15] <cuddleage> i got 77 items
[15:15] <cuddleage> i need zipped
[15:15] <cuddleage> pictures
[15:15] <thyriaen> I am looking for an open source software where i can create tasks within different topics ( optional assign expected time to it ) and later mark them as done. So i can have a good overview of my project ( something like "scrumdesk" but id like a client and it does not have to be multi user )
[15:15] <thyriaen> any ideas ?
[15:15] <ivan> cuddleage: zip file.zip filenames
[15:16] <cuddleage> bro its an entire folder
[15:16] <ivan> thyriaen: org-mode
[15:16] <cuddleage> ivan how do i zip folder
[15:16] <cuddleage> entire folder
[15:16] <dsoyet> ^^
[15:16] <nacc> cuddleage: zip -r file.zip dir
[15:16] <ivan> man zip :-)
[15:16] <nacc> cuddleage: i believe it's the first example in `man zip`
[15:16] <thyriaen> ivan, looks like exactly what i want - i do not use imacs though - do you know of something similar ?
[15:17] <ivan> thyriaen: a gitlab instance might work, but I'm migrating away from that to org-mode
[15:18] <nacc> thyriaen: you may want to ask in ##linux or so
[15:18] <thyriaen> thanks nacc will do
[15:18] <ivan> emacs is worth using just for org-mode imho
[15:19] <cuddleage> thx my nigga
[15:19] <nacc> thyriaen: i imagine a lot of people use the online versions (whicha re open source) -- e.g., taiga, etc
[15:19] <nacc> cuddleage: don't be offensive.
[15:19] <thyriaen> never heard of it - will look into it ( you got ~3 names for me besides taiga ? )
[15:20] <nacc> thyriaen: while i can do it for you, i'm just googling 'open source agile software' :)
[15:20] <jfmcarreira> heyyy guys
[15:20] <nacc> thyriaen: maybe this list? https://opensource.com/business/16/3/top-project-management-tools-2016
[15:20] <thyriaen> ok thanks will do that nacc
[15:20] <jfmcarreira> any help on this error? cannot create user data directory: /nfs/home/jcarreira.it/snap/vlc/x1: Read-only file system
[15:20] <nacc> thyriaen: terrible web page, but does have a list, at least :)
[15:21] <thyriaen> nacc always helpful if other peeps come up with search terms :)
[15:21] <nacc> jfmcarreira: trying to use vlc snap?
[15:21] <nacc> jfmcarreira: is that from running the snap?
[15:21] <cuddleage> bro nacc im  black bro
[15:21] <nacc> jfmcarreira: you might try in #snappy
[15:21] <cuddleage> nacc : thats how i talk
[15:21] <cuddleage> nacc: its offense u saying im offensve but i love u anyways
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | cuddleage
[15:22] <cuddleage> my bad
[15:22] <cuddleage> ur command worked
[15:22] <cuddleage> i was just thanking u
[15:22] <nacc> cuddleage: last thing i'll say: you don't get to decide if you are offensive. that's not how it works.
[15:22] <cuddleage> alrght but thank u for ur help
[15:22] <cuddleage> i apreciate it
[15:22] <cuddleage> <3
[15:23] <nacc> cuddleage: yw
[15:23] <cuddleage> i am sorry for offending
[15:23] <cuddleage> np
[15:23] <cuddleage> im going to go now ill see u guys later
[15:26] <jamesleimer> well that took a couple days but i stuck with it..
[15:27] <Jackneill> is there a dev channel where i can ask about mir?
[15:28] <ikonia> Jackneill: ask what ?
[15:28] <jfmcarreira> nacc: yeah.. i will try in that channel
[15:28] <Jackneill> at the current state in what aspect is mir better than wayland?
[15:29] <ikonia> Jackneill: current state of it is unknown due to the requirement for it being dropped
[15:29] <Jackneill> what are the reasons its not just a giant waste of time?
[15:29] <ikonia> Jackneill: and it's not "better" than wayland, I suggest you focus your attention on wayland
[15:29] <Jackneill> but there a working implementation..
[15:29] <ikonia> Jackneill: it wasn't a waste of time, however the "need" that drove it has now been removed
[15:29] <Jackneill> but there was a reason it was created
[15:29] <Jackneill> what was that reason? did they achieve it?
[15:29] <ikonia> it's more likley focus will move back to wayland, but thats not confirmed
[15:30] <ikonia> Jackneill: it was to help the convergence devices
[15:30] <Jackneill> but wayland existed back then and it does the same
[15:30] <ikonia> Jackneill: it doesn't work the same - canoncal wanted some changes to the way it worked to aid convergence devices
[15:31] <Jackneill> please elaborate on that
[15:31] <ikonia> Jackneill: read the blog posts from a few years ago
[15:31] <nacc> this feels all rather offtopic for the support channel
[15:31] <ikonia> it's all mapped out ther
[15:31] <ikonia> there
[15:31] <nacc> Jackneill: as ikonia said, it's all publicly documented (afaict) why mir exists
[15:31] <Jackneill> nacc, well i asked for a dev channel
[15:31] <nacc> and the future is probably wayland
[15:31] <nacc> it would be offtopic there too
[15:31] <ikonia> Jackneill: it's not a topic for a dev channel
[15:31] <nacc> as you're not asking about development, you're asking about the product (it seems) and why it exists
[15:32] <Jackneill> ok, can you link those blog posts and docs?
[15:32] <ikonia> Jackneill: just google mir and it's all documented
[15:32] <Jackneill> i see
[15:32] <Jackneill> thanks
[15:33] <MadPsy> #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:37] <tsglove> Hey guys. I want to setup Ubuntu 16.04 server as a DNS.  Currently, it is acting as a ¨gateway¨ between an internal network, and the external network.
[15:37] <ikonia> ok ?
[15:37] <tsglove> What would you suggest to setup DNS in this 16.04 installation?  the program bing?
[15:37] <tsglove> err... bind ,  not bing
[15:37] <ikonia> bind is a standard across the internet, why not
[15:38] <tsglove> ikonia, ok... haven´t done this before... just asking for opinions.   Going to shoot with bind and try it out.
[15:38] <tsglove> =)
[15:45] <MadPsy> tsglove, dnsmasq might be more suitable, depending on what you're trying to achieve here. Bind, PowerDNS etc are all solid solutions though.
[15:45] <dsoyet> ^^
[15:45] <JuPaname> hi
[15:45] <JuPaname> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1560:8001::11)]
[15:46] <tsglove> MadPsy, thanks!  Searching for dnsmasq now.  Basically, I am setting up a small lab inside VirtualBox.  The lab is for starting to use FreeIPA.  An Ubuntu server is the gateway between the internal network and the external one.  And a Fedora server will be the FreeIPA server.
[15:46] <JuPaname> no work for update or upgrade :x
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> JuPaname: wich country are you?
[15:46] <tsglove> In the FreeIPA instructions, it states that (understandably) a DNS server is required... so... that´s the reason behind this.
[15:46] <JuPaname> is server us
[15:47] <JuPaname> ipv4 + ipv6
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> JuPaname: not a firewall or router block?
[15:48] <MadPsy> tsglove, in that case BIND is probably your best bet.
[15:48] <tsglove> MadPsy, awesome.  Going to try with that.  =)
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> JuPaname: try another mirror or ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for know issues today?
[15:49] <nicomachus> how can I check when the last time a package was updated was?
[15:50] <k1l_> nicomachus: apt show?
[15:50] <jamesleimer> i use synaptic package manager..
[15:51] <nicomachus> k1l_: that gives a lot of info but not last update.
[15:51] <ivan> check /var/logs/apt
[15:51] <ducasse> nicomachus: maybe apt changelog?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: or dpkg logs might show usefull things
[15:52] <k1l_> nicomachus: you mean as changelog or as on that system install/udpate date?
[15:52] <MadPsy> jamesleimer, /var/log/dpkg.log might be useful
[15:52] <nicomachus> k1l_: the date of the last update for a specific package on this computer. like the date it was installed.
[15:53] <nicomachus> ducasse: changelog unavailable... nice. great. thanks spotify.
[15:53] <k1l_> nicomachus: i guess your best way is to grep the /var/log/apt logfiles
[15:53] <nicomachus> k1l_: trying
[15:53] <arunpyasi> Is Ubuntu really killing UNITY ?
[15:53] <arunpyasi> heard rumors through the internet...
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | arunpyasi
[15:53] <ducasse> nicomachus: then /var/log/apt/history.log should tell you
[15:54] <nicomachus> cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep spotify returned nothing.
[15:54] <nicomachus> same for term.log even though I didn't expect anything there
[15:55] <k1l_> arunpyasi: yes, ubuntu is changing to gnome desktop as default on 18.04 and canonical will not invest in unity and the phone development anymore. but it looks like the projects will keep on as community projects
[15:56] <ioria> nicomachus, as you can see there a lot of history* and term * in that folder ... so what you're looking for can be zipped ...
[15:57] <nicomachus> ioria: trying to figure out the best way to do this in batch rn
[15:57] <ioria> nicomachus, zgrep spotify  /var/log/apt/history* | grep disabled
[15:57] <ioria> nicomachus, sorry
[15:57] <nicomachus> whoa what
[15:58] <nicomachus> zgrep?
[15:58] <ioria> nicomachus, zgrep spotify  /var/log/apt/history*
[15:58] <MadPsy> ^^
[15:58] <arunpyasi> k1l_, cool !
[15:58] <nicomachus> cool stuff, ioria thanks
[15:58] <raymondillo> Have I messed up somewhere. Or has there been a rather large numbers of
[15:58] <ioria> nicomachus, ok
[15:58] <MadPsy> zcat zless zgrep etc.. v useful :)
[15:58] <nicomachus> ahhh here we go
[15:58] <raymondillo> 10.04.2 LTS kerel updates in the last few days?
[15:59] <nicomachus> no dates without adding a bit more verbosity
[15:59] <nicomachus> well. do these logs even have dates?
[15:59] <kostkon> raymondillo, 10.04?
[15:59] <k1l_> raymondillo: 10.04 is dead some time now
[15:59] <raymondillo> sorry thats 16.04.02 LTS updates
[16:01] <nicomachus> lol. spotify support says "Have you tried using Windows?"
[16:01] <ducasse> nicomachus: isn't that helpful of them :)
[16:02] <czopek> test
[16:09] <raymondillo> I guess everyone is happy with recent 16.04.02 updates then?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> raymondillo: do you have issues?
[16:10] <raymondillo> lotuspsychje: Not really just the sheer amount of kernel updates in last week. seems
[16:11] <raymondillo> like I've had one everyday for last 4 days or so.
[16:11] <k1l_> raymondillo: look at ubuntu.com/usn and see how much is security related
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> !usn | raymondillo follow these, as many security flows come out
[16:12] <raymondillo> lotuspsychje: ubottu: thanks. Should have tried that first. ;)
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> raymondillo: its a good thing you update often, keep that going
[16:14] <AdamH> Hello, not sure if this is the correct channel, but I have a question about running an lxd container of ubuntu xenial with the armhf cpu. I can get it running but it doesn't get an IP address where as amd64 containers do. Is this a known issue?
[16:15] <raymondillo> lotuspsychje: Thats me the update kid. (since hardy on Ubuntu.) :)
[16:16] <nacc> AdamH: #lxcontainers maybe
[16:16] <AdamH> nacc: Thanks will try that channel
[16:17] <ducasse> AdamH: you could also try #ubuntu-arm
[16:18] <AdamH> ducasse: Thanks
[16:41] <Joel> any way to not run pre/post install scripts when installing a package? I was thinking this was what the --no-triggers was for, but doesn't seem to be the case
[16:45] <nacc> Joel: triggers is for cascading between packages aiui
[16:45] <nacc> Joel: not sure
[16:46] <nacc> Joel: and no, I don't think there is, as it would mean the package is not installed as defined
[16:46] <Joel> dpkg-deb -x does the trick
[16:46] <visiona> Hello, Did anyone have problem with wifi hard blocked and unable to switch wireless into on in Network manager?
[16:47] <nacc> Joel: right, but that doesn't install it
[16:47] <nacc> Joel: that's just an extraction step
[16:50] <Joel> right, which is skipping all triggers, and pre/post stuff, which is fine.
[16:50] <nacc> Joel: and not being installed, whih was your qustion, aiui
[16:50] <Joel> the only thing I'm "missing" is an entry in the apt db, which is fnie.
[16:51] <nacc> Joel: uh, no, things like config file generation at runtime might not be run
[16:51] <nacc> *install time
[16:51] <Joel> right, that's part of pre/post and triggers.
[16:51] <haider> whatweb
[16:51] <nacc> Joel: what is your use-case for hacking around the package manager so much?
[17:01] <hitman1> How to know if a package can be installed from sudo apt ?
[17:01] <nacc> hitman1: not sure what you mean? do you mean if it's available from the repositories?
[17:01] <k1l_> hitman1: use "apt search keyword" to look if there is a package for keyword
[17:01] <hitman1> Yes nacc
[17:01] <nacc> hitman1: just try it?
[17:02] <nacc> hitman1: not sure i understand, i guess ... why look before you leap? install it and it will complain if it can't find what you're asking for
[17:02] <nacc> hitman1: unless you mean you need to find a package's name?
[17:02] <hitman1> Yes finding the package name
[17:03] <hitman1> like I want to know if I can install cisco packet tracer from my repo. If yes how it is spelled?
[17:03] <nacc> hitman1: unless you mean you need to find a package's name?
[17:03] <nacc> hitman1: yes, you can search
[17:03] <nacc> hitman1: sorry for the double post a moment earlier
[17:04] <nacc> hitman1: apt search cisco | less and search through it?
[17:05] <hitman1> ok
[17:05] <hitman1> thanks
[17:06] <hitman1> nacc, grep will also work (like less)
[17:06] <nacc> hitman1: yes, but assumes you know what to grep for
[17:07] <nacc> hitman1: it wasn't clear to me that you did :)
[17:07] <nacc> hitman1: if you do, just search for those terms
[17:07] <hitman1> ohh np
[17:07] <hitman1> :)
[17:09] <visiona_> Hello everyone, I am struggling for few hours now to activate wifi in my ubuntu, my 1: brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN is hard blocked
[17:12] <hitman1> visiona_, systemsettings>softwareandupdates>additionaldriver
[17:13] <nacc> visiona_: hard blocked means a hardware switch is off
[17:15] <hitman1> nacc, he left
[17:15] <nacc> hitman1: ? visiona_ is still in the channel
[17:16] <k1l_> visiona_: are you sure you dont have a hardware switch at the side? did you try to press the FN shortcut labeled on the keyboard? what is the output of "rfkill list"?
[17:17] <Azulflame> hitman1, visiona left, visiona_ is still here
[17:17] <hitman1> sorry my fault
[17:17] <Azulflame> underscores are easy to miss, especially on laptops
[17:17] <beautifulinsidea> hallo
[17:17] <Azulflame> ollah
[17:17] <hitman1> ollo
[17:18] <choki> ollo
[17:18] <choki> i wanted to use unity...
[17:18] <implite> Yolo
[17:18] <Azulflame> () |_ |L ()
[17:18] <hitman1> Azulflame ^ visona_ left
[17:18] <nacc> stop it all of you :)
[17:18] <hitman1> lol
[17:18] <Azulflame> hitman1, he did now
[17:18] <hitman1> yes I saw
[17:19] <Azulflame> choki, you should still be able to install Unity. SHouldn't be a concern for a while, but using legacy code does carry risks
[17:19] <hitman1> maybe wifi worked.
[17:19] <choki> i was so into convergence!
[17:19] <Azulflame> or it completely failed hitman1
[17:19] <hitman1> lol
[17:19] <choki> ubuntu is a lie!
[17:20] <implite> Is there a way i can use unix programs in linux?
[17:20] <nicomachus> !ot | choki (really, all)
[17:20] <k1l_> choki: this is the technical support channel, not for trolling (like the last days you tried too)
[17:20] <Azulflame> imp, yeah. Build/install them. They should work near nativly
[17:20] <choki> oh
[17:20] <choki> i join ot
[17:20] <nacc> implite: what do you mean? what unix programs?
[17:21] <k1l_> (i guess he means apple programs with that phrasing)
[17:21] <brama> sudo letsencrypt --apache -d example.com -d www.example.com
[17:21] <implite> like if I take something that was wrote for minix and try it on ubuntu
[17:22] <brama> when generating for 5 domains that all redirect to .com do i have to add each domain in this command or is the .com sufficient once i change the redirects?
[17:22] <nacc> implite: well, you'd have to compile it, of course
[17:23] <implite> I found a cool web program on unix called links and wanted to try it on ubuntu
[17:23] <implite> "browser"
[17:23] <Azulflame> the web browser?
[17:23] <implite> yes
[17:23] <k1l_> !info links | implite
[17:24] <Azulflame> links has LInux as a supported platform
[17:24] <implite> wow
[17:24] <Azulflame> so build + run
[17:24] <bunchies> sudo letsencrypt --apache -d example.com -d www.example.com
[17:24] <bunchies> when generating for 5 domains that all redirect to .com do i have to add each domain in this command or is the .com sufficient once i change the redirects?
[17:24] <implite> soooo cool haha
[17:24] <nacc> !patience | bunchies
[17:24] <bunchies> i changed nicks is why
[17:24] <Azulflame> we can see when you change nicks
[17:25] <Azulflame> so you don't need to repost
[17:25] <llewe_> hi everyone im looking for a replacement for laspass do u guys no of any alternatives for linux?
[17:25] <bunchies> apologies
[17:25] <implite> !ot | llewe_
[17:25] <akik> llewe_: keepass2
[17:26] <llewe_> awesome thanks will check it out now
[17:28] <Rapture> I added -:ALL EXCEPT lastresort sysop:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL to my access.conf file. A little rusty with it. That would only allow lastresort and sysops groups correct?
[17:29] <visiona> I'm sorry it disconnected me, I installed broadcom in additional drivers but still wifi doesnt work, I can't enable wifi in the network menu
[17:29] <solarc> Hi, quick question, what does the xenial-updates repository have? is it security updates?
[17:30] <k1l_> solarc: yes, but alsow bugfixes
[17:30] <Azulflame> visiona, a hard lock refers to a hardware switch or button (or ocassionaloy a BIOS setting) that prevents the wifi from being enabled
[17:30] <solarc> it is giving me a Hash Sum Mismatch error so I had to comment it :(
[17:30] <Azulflame> so make sure that you don't have that toggled
 visiona_: are you sure you dont have a hardware switch at the side? did you try to press the FN shortcut labeled on the keyboard? what is the output of "rfkill list"?
[17:31] <nacc> solarc: no, that's security.ubuntu.com
[17:31] <nacc> solarc: updates contains bugfixes
[17:31] <visiona> Azulflame: I do not have wifi switch in my laptop and nothing was disabled in BIOS
[17:31] <ioria> solarc, not sure it's a good idea
[17:32] <ioria> solarc,  maybe if you paste the error
[17:32] <solarc> nacc, will those bugfixes be added to the xenial repo at some point?
[17:32] <nacc> solarc: no
[17:32] <nacc> solarc: the release repo never changes really once it's released
[17:32] <nacc> solarc: bugfixes are only available via -update and if security-related security.
[17:32] <solarc> ioria, yeah let me see. nacc, oh no good
[17:32] <nacc> solarc: are you using a mirror?
[17:33] <solarc> > Err:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages
[17:33] <solarc> >   Hash Sum mismatch
[17:34] <solarc> It is the official repo afaik, I can try some other repo and see if it works
[17:34] <nacc> solarc: iirc, you can `sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*; sudo apt update` and it should work
[17:35] <nacc> solarc: although, iirc, archive.ubuntu.com might be a redirector? i can't recall
[17:35] <fossvbn> what will happen if freenode goes down for a while
[17:36] <OerHeks> nacc +1
[17:36] <ioria> solarc,  and sudo apt-get clean
[17:36] <OerHeks> fossvbn, imagine yourself, it is not an ubuntu issue
[17:36] <nacc> !ot | fossvbn
[17:37] <fossvbn> thanks my bad
[17:39] <fossvbn> can we install gui in ubuntu server like lxde
[17:39] <k1l_> fossvbn: yes
[17:39] <Guy1524> i asked this a day ago, w/ no response
[17:39] <fossvbn> haha
[17:39] <EriC^^> fossvbn: yes, sudo apt-get install lxde
[17:39] <Guy1524> I am trying to get a wiimote working on ubuntu 16.04 with dolphin through bluetooth, however, when I pair it, it connects to Human Interface Device Service, so I can go up and down pages with the D-Pad, but Dolpin does not recognize it, disconnecting it from HIDS makes the wiimote go into search mode until I press 1+2 to go back to HIDS
[17:41] <visiona> Just checked in BIOS, but there is nothing there for switching on the wifi
[17:41] <fossvbn> thanks %n EriC^^
[17:42] <EriC^^> yourwelcome(fossvbn) :P
[17:42] <OerHeks> visiona, how about FN key + wifi ?
[17:42] <k1l_> visiona: can you show the output url of "rfkill list | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[17:43] <visiona> OerHeks: Unfortunately the keyboard I have installed doesn't recognize Fn key, and I couldn't find any other with Fn key working
[17:44] <visiona> k1l_: thi is the whole output: http://termbin.com/8y96
[17:45] <fossvbn> is there a way to bypass rc.local script. in my workPC someone put reboot cmd in there. it happened just yesterday night
[17:45] <alkisg> fossvbn: go to recovery mode and remove it
[17:46] <dreamer> fossvbn: it's what I usually do when I want a window-manager/desktop that doesn't have a straight install target (like the {k,l,x}ubuntu's out there)
[17:46] <dreamer> just take a server install and add window-manager + xorg
[17:46] <OerHeks> fossvbn,  you know who, where and when, fix it.
[17:46] <SimonNL_afk> visiona: what's the brand and type of your computer ?
[17:47] <artag> I've update a machine from 14.04 to 16.04 and networking is broken. Looks as though network-manager isn't detecting the interfaces. can I make it retry the installation ?
[17:47] <visiona> SimonNL_afk: I have HP Pavilion 13
[17:47] <alkisg> artag: if you run `sudo dhclient` in a terminal, do you get network?
[17:48] <ikonia> fossvbn: just boot into single user mode
[17:48] <artag> I get 'warning,  /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[17:48] <alkisg> artag: and then you can ping 8.8.8.8?
[17:49] <artag> which is true, I put a resolv.conf in manually to get it working
[17:49] <artag> yeah, I can bring networking up manually with ifconfig and route
[17:49] <ioria> artag,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[17:49] <alkisg> What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:50] <artag> but it doesn't happen on its own and restarting network-manager kills the manually-started bnetwork
[17:50] <artag> in /etc/network/interfaces I only have local
[17:50] <artag> (isn't network manager supposed to find the others and popu;ate it ?)
[17:51] <fossvbn> thanks alkisg: OerHeks: dreamer: ikonia:
[17:51] <ioria> artag,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[17:51] <artag> ioria: it shows a simple file - it's the one I put there (because it was empty)
[17:51] <alkisg> artag: yes, and `nmcli d` shows you the managed devices
[17:51] <ioria> artag,  it should show a link
[17:52] <alkisg> Is you nic shown there?
[17:52] <artag> nmcli is not installed
[17:52] <ioria> artag,  like this   /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[17:52] <wellick> hi, I connected my laptop to my TV via HDMI. Now the sound is not working. What's weird is if I go to "sounds settings" and test the sound it does work. But if I play sound on firefox or chrome it does not. Thoughts?
[17:52] <fossvbn> thanks /notice alkisg OerHeks dreamer ikonia
[17:52] <artag> ioria: yes, I gather that from the dhcp error above.
[17:53] <alkisg> artag: nmcli is part of the network-manager package
[17:53] <artag> I will try that, thanks, and also install nmcli
[17:53] <alkisg> If it's not installed, you have serious issues
[17:53] <artag> yeah, I probably removed it in 14.04 because it was so unreliable.
[17:53] <SimonNL> http://imgur.com/a/piMUS    visiona hardware switch for wifi is fn(key2) + the key with the aeroplane on it.
[17:53] <alkisg> If you removed network-manager, how would it work?!
[17:53] <ikonia> thats the worst excuse ever
[17:53] <ikonia> network manager is not unreliable
[17:53] <artag> I had to use something else, I've forgotten what
[17:54] <ikonia> and hasn't been for a long time if you don't fight it, eg: don't put things in the interfaces that conflict
[17:54] <Azulflame> isn't network-manager just an applet, and actually handled by another piece of code?
[17:54] <artag> really, it was. used to coredump on every other boot
[17:54] <Azulflame> or am I confusing arch and Ubuntu?
[17:54] <ikonia> Azulflame: no, there is an aplet for it
[17:54] <ikonia> Azulflame: nah
[17:54] <ikonia> Azulflame: it's a network manager application with an applet to let the desktop interact with it
[17:54] <Azulflame> I know I have to manually start nm-applet in .bashrc because it doesn't work properly unless I do
[17:55] <ikonia> Azulflame: it works just fine
[17:55] <Azulflame> but is network-manager actually what handles all the networking connections
[17:55] <artag> yeah, I was hoping 16.04 would behave better but probably needs my patches undoing first.
[17:55] <SimonNL> visiona: pressing that key combination switches wifi on and off    type    rfkill list all     to check if hardware block shows on/off
[17:55] <alkisg> (08:50:48 μμ) artag: (isn't network manager supposed to find the others and popu;ate it ?) | (08:53:22 μμ) artag: yeah, I probably removed it in 14.04 because it was so unreliable. ==> I can't imagine how you would expect network-manager to manage the interfaces after removing network-manager :D
[17:55] <visiona> SimonNL: Thanks, I know, but Fn key is not recognized by Ubuntu when I press it; I tried with ctrl, alt, windows button and nothing
[17:55] <artag> well, I didn't. I didn't want it to, since it merelky crashed :) But since I'm updating the OS I was going to give it another chance !
[17:56] <ikonia> yet you didn't re-install it
[17:56] <SimonNL> visiona: try the key combi and type rfkill list all
[17:56] <ikonia> seems odd to give it another chance without re-installing it
[17:57] <artag> ikonia: indeed, because I'd forgotten what I'd uninstalled. I did try installing 'network-manager' but it said it already had the latest version
[17:57] <ikonia> this seems very odd
[17:57] <dean> Hey anyone else got the rtl8723be chipset. I've installed the new realtek drivers in the past and had no problem. Had to reinstall ubuntu today. It's crashing the kernel
[17:57] <ikonia> and sounds very much like you've broken your own machine tinkering
[17:57] <alkisg> artag: so currently dpkg -l network-manager says installed, or not?
[17:58] <visiona> SimonNL: I am pressing Fn + F12 and no effect as Fn is not recognized and doesn't cause any effect as shown in keyboard map
[17:59] <SimonNL> visiona: your holding down fn then pressing key with aeroplane on it?
[17:59] <artag> alkisg: it currently says uninstalled. But that's because I just uninstalled it with a purge in the hope that I could get it to do a clean setup. Unfortunately I was doing that whilst asking here so some of the information above is probably inconsistent
[18:00] <alkisg> artag: and you probably removed all the other packages that depend on it. Eh, ok, try to reinstall them.
[18:01] <SimonNL> visiona: check if there is any settings in bios to enable/disable the wifi switch
[18:01] <visiona> SimonNL: yes I do. There is Keyboard Layout Chart (not character map as I said) that doesn't show me anything when I press Fn, as this key is not recognized.
[18:01] <visiona> it shows any other key even F12 , when I press, but not Fn
[18:02] <SimonNL> visiona: i get it.
[18:02] <visiona> I checked already, there is none
[18:02] <SimonNL> visiona: you'll have to solve that first to solve the wifi issue
[18:03] <visiona> I installed ubuntu with acpi off, I am not sure if that affected these issues
[18:03] <alkisg> visiona: have you tried rfkill?
[18:03] <SimonNL> visiona: I have no idea you'll have to ask someone with more knowledge
[18:04] <visiona> no worries, thanks SimonNL
[18:04] <visiona> alkisg: I did: http://termbin.com/8y96
[18:04] <alkisg> visiona: I mean, to unblock it with rfkill unblock
[18:05] <alkisg> Not just to list
[18:05] <SimonNL> visiona: windows still on the machine?
[18:06] <visiona> Simon_NL: There is no other OS
[18:06] <artag> alkisg: reinstalled, linked resolv.conf, restarted. Still no wlan or eth in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:06] <alkisg> artag: you're not supposed to have them there
[18:06] <OneM_Industries> So, for some reason, all of the files on one of my hard drives are suddenly owned by root. How do I fix this?
[18:06] <visiona> alkisg: I tried sudo rfkill unblock all but no effect
[18:06] <artag> or interfaces.d
[18:06] <alkisg> artag: now does `nmcli d` show your devices?
[18:06] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: change it back to what it should be
[18:07] <SimonNL> visiona: to bad seen people recommend going in to windows and disable.enable it in there and then boot linux
[18:07] <OneM_Industries> Right, how?
[18:07] <alkisg> visiona: ok, then yeah you'll need to find the hardware key that enables it. Sometimes windows can enable it too.
[18:07] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: use the file manager or the chown command
[18:07] <artag> alkisg: it lists them both, but disconnected
[18:07] <OneM_Industries> Ok..
[18:07] <alkisg> artag: ok, use the network manager applet to create connections and connect them
[18:07] <SimonNL> alkisg: his Fn key is not recognized in ubuntu
[18:07] <alkisg> OneM_Industries: shouldn't you first try to find why it happened?
[18:08] <alkisg> SimonNL: yes, it's a hardware key, it's not recognized by any software
[18:08] <visiona> I found something with installing xbindkeys and keytouch  - I am trying to understand howto use them
[18:08] <alkisg> *modifier
[18:08] <OneM_Industries> I have no clue. This is on a box that has random, inexplicable issues.
[18:08] <visiona> is there a command in CL to have the same effect as Fn + F12?
[18:08] <SimonNL> http://imgur.com/a/piMUS  alkisg manual shows this. Fn + aeroplane
[18:09] <artag> alkisg: it tries for a while (spinning dandelion thing) with 'getting ip configuration', then goes back to disconnected.
[18:09] <artag> I only tried eth0
[18:10] <artag> the router shows no lease
[18:11] <artag> wait, it does, but the machine hasn't picked it up
[18:12] <artag> the router is showing a lease for the wifi MAC but not for the ethernet
[18:14] <hhee> guys, which console based mp3 player (better if there is ncurses interface) do you recommended?
[18:14] <hhee> in ubuntu 16 lts MOC - dont start
[18:14] <artag> I ran dhcpclient and it's got an address for eth0, but route isn't set up so everywhere'sd unreachable
[18:14] <hhee> mp3blaster - dont switch song correctly
[18:16] <artag> and nmcli still shows it disconnected
[18:16] <pavlos> artag, what's your 'route -n'
[18:19] <artag> pavlos: It was empty. I ran dhcpclient again and it was working - but from behaviour a few minutes ago I expect it shortly to remove the routes and the ip address
[18:19] <artag> looks like something other than dhcpclient is resetting stuff ?
[18:23] <implite> !deepin | implite
[18:23] <OneM_Industries> ikonia: Right, tried both the terminal and the file manager. Neither worked, the drive and all files on the drive are all still owned by root.
[18:24] <implite> anyone ever try deepin in ubuntu?
[18:24] <implite> deepin desktop
[18:25] <k1l_> you need to use a PPA for that
[18:25] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: define neither worked
[18:25] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: did you get any error or output, what was the exact command you run
[18:25] <OneM_Industries> sudo chown twinroses /mnt/drivenamehere/
[18:26] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: so straight away "mnt" suggests an external drive, correct ?
[18:26] <OneM_Industries> It's a second drive in the box, so...kind of?
[18:26] <ikonia> what file system is on it ?
[18:26] <Guest123> Is it possible to install Ubuntu Core without an Ubuntu One account?
[18:26] <ikonia> nothing needs an ubuntu one account any more
[18:26] <ikonia> it's long dead
[18:27] <Guest123> The docs are just outdated?
[18:27] <OneM_Industries> Also tried the file manager as root, and it changed the permissions from root to twinroses for a second, then it changed back.
[18:27] <ikonia> no idea
[18:27] <OneM_Industries> Hang on.
[18:27] <k1l_> Guest123: you mean snappy core? you might ask the specialists in #snappy
[18:28] <OneM_Industries> It's NTFS.
[18:28] <Guest123> k1l_: Ok, Thanks!
[18:28] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: ok - so there is your first problem
[18:28] <OerHeks> Guest123, no, but you can create your own ssh keys after install
[18:28] <OneM_Industries> Odd part is, it was working last night.
[18:28] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: ntfs is mounted userspace
[18:28] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: so the user that mounts it, owns it
[18:28] <OneM_Industries> Oh?
[18:28] <OneM_Industries> Hunh.
[18:29] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: how is it being mounted, manually, detection or fstab
[18:29] <OneM_Industries> Double-clicking in file manager?
[18:29] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: so that seems odd as that should mount it in /media/$something rather than /mnt
[18:30] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: so I suggest it's probably mounted before you double click it
[18:30] <OneM_Industries> I manually unmounted it.
[18:30] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: now click it in the file manager
[18:32] <OneM_Industries> Still owned by root.
[18:32] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: where is it getting mounted ?
[18:32] <darc_> hello
[18:33] <darc_> i'm having a error i have seen this lot of times but not found any solution yet
[18:33] <darc_>  sudo apt-get -f  install nikto
[18:33] <darc_> Reading package lists... Done
[18:33] <darc_> Building dependency tree
[18:33] <darc_> Reading state information... Done
[18:33] <darc_> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[18:33] <darc_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:33] <kostkon> !paste | darc_
[18:34] <k1l_> darc_: put everything on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:34] <OneM_Industries> ikonia: /mnt/drivenamehere
[18:34] <darc_> sorry i was new to this
[18:34] <Guest123> Maybe try sudo apt-get update?
[18:35] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: so thats not a userspace mount
[18:35] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: is there a reference to it in /etc/fstb ?
[18:35] <ikonia> fstab
[18:35] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[18:36] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: I suspect that is your problem
[18:36] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[18:36] <OneM_Industries> Hang on, I can pastebin the fstab file..
[18:36] <ikonia> I don't need to see it
[18:37] <darc_> guys this is the issue im having http://paste.ubuntu.com/24335630/
[18:37] <OneM_Number2> https://pastebin.com/qe83gUEQ
[18:37] <OneM_Industries> Oh, ok.
[18:37] <OneM_Industries> Sorry.
[18:38] <ikonia> no problem
[18:38] <ikonia> so now you know what you've got to fix and sort out
[18:38] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[18:38] <k1l_> darc_: please run "apt policy libappindicator1 libwhisker2-perl | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the outputurl here
[18:39] <darc_> k1l_: thanks and may i know what does that apt policy command do
[18:40] <k1l_> darc_: it shows the availabilty of the packages on the repo lists your system got
[18:41] <metaphysician> aptitude gives a warning every time I view changelogs of packages "Can't drop privileges for downloading as file
[18:41] <darc_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24335647/
[18:41] <driton> hi
[18:41] <Lyberta> hi, is there a way to move from vanilla ubuntu to ubuntu MATE without complete reinstall?
[18:41] <ikonia> just install the mate desktop package
[18:41] <k1l_> darc_: ok, the packages are available so run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:42] <metaphysician> … couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[18:42] <driton> im looking for a good intel kabini mobo with intel gbit LAN...compatible with linux/ubuntu...would you recommend ASUS or Supermicro? any idea
[18:42] <driton> what are the best intel mobos for linux ?
[18:42] <ikonia> driton: check the ##hardware channel
[18:42] <driton> oh thanks
[18:42] <ikonia> anything with intel chipsets will be fine
[18:42] <Lyberta> ikonia, I do have MATE installed, I just want to ditch all traces of Unity
[18:43] <darc_> k1l_: did already same error as earlier
[18:43] <ikonia> Lyberta: then remove the unity packages
[18:43] <k1l_> darc_: no, just run my exact command without mentioning the package
[18:43] <darc_> i saw this kind of error few months ago i'm tired of searching web and left it like that
[18:43] <darc_> ok
[18:45] <darc_> k1l_:looks like they are downloading
[18:46] <darc_> k1l_: yay!!!! you are my friend............:).thanks
[18:50] <Guest123> How does Ubiquity do automated dual-boot on efi systems?
[18:50] <OneM_Number2> ikonia: Right... just tried fixing fstab, it's still doing the same thing. All the files and folders are still being mounted as root.
[18:50] <Guest123> !ubiquity
[18:51] <ikonia> OneM_Number2: fstab will always mount as root
[18:51] <ikonia> as it's a system mounting it
[18:51] <OneM_Number2> Ah.
[18:51] <Guest123> The wiki info is very limited.
[18:51] <k1l_> Guest123: with grub?
[18:51] <OneM_Number2> Did not know that, good to know.
[18:52] <ikonia> OneM_Number2: some file systems will take parameters like user= for example
[18:52] <Guest123> k1l_, Is it efi grub?
[18:52] <ikonia> OneM_Number2: but it is still root doing that
[18:52] <OneM_Number2> Yeah, that's what I tried.
[18:52] <Guest123> I'm specifically talking about macs.
[18:53] <ikonia> OneM_Number2: the only way to have write access to ntfs is via fuse userspace file system mounts
[18:53] <Guest123> !mac
[18:53] <k1l_> Guest123: macs are a totally different animal with all that refind and efi stuff
[18:54] <Guest123> The point is I want to not use refined.
[18:54] <implite> I like the old powerpc macs
[18:54] <Guest123> Nothing is clear about how to not of it. Does automated fix it?
[18:54] <OneM_Number2> ikonia: I have no clue what that is.
[18:55] <Guest123> Does Ubiquity's efi install work right?
[18:56] <k1l_> Guest123: it does. but apple makes everything difficult and got own ways of handling stuff.
[18:56] <Guest123> The ArchLinux wiki about mac installation helps a little.
[18:57] <Guest123> k1l_, I thought the Canonical people might have built-in a solution.
[18:57] <Guest123> Some articles say that it uses hybrid BIOS instead of efi.
[18:58] <artag> alkisg: I think i've got it connecting to the network semi-automatically. If I put eth0 in interfaces, it will connect but nm applet says eth0 is 'not managed'. If I run dhclient, it will work but nm applet has eth0 in the list TWICE. If I try to connect to either wlan or eth fromnm applet, it just fails to connect.
[18:58] <Guest123> !17.04
[18:58] <Guest123> Maybe this will fix it?
[18:59] <k1l_> Guest123: i dont know. i dont have apple hardware myself. there are ubuntu wiki pages who list some experiences with macbooks and what to do.
[18:59] <Guest123> Oh, well.
[18:59] <Guest123> Trial and error I guess.
[18:59] <stevehope> I had to fight with the bios on a Acer V-3 with preinstalled Windows 10... companies are bad for making os changes deliberately difficult, not just macs
[18:59] <hamzah_> hamzah
[19:00] <Guest123> Macs don't have secure  boot, though.
[19:00] <Guest123> They just have slightly unusual refi boot setup.
[19:00] <Guest123> efi
[19:00] <stevehope> ah my bad, thought newer stuff supported uefi
[19:01] <Guest123> Macs use a combination of efi and uefi.
[19:01] <subthalamus> test, am I here?
[19:01] <Guest123> Yes,subthalamus.
[19:01] <blitzcreep> how can i add a highlight to hexchat?
[19:01] <Bashing-om> subthalamus: You are bck on ubuntu suport .
[19:01] <subthalamus> thanks
[19:01] <Guest123> !efi
[19:02] <subthalamus> but I think I just fixed my problem hehe so nevermind :)
[19:02] <kostkon> blitzcreep, in preferences -> alerts?
[19:02] <blitzcreep> does it come with sound?
[19:03] <blitzcreep> ok nm
[19:03] <blitzcreep> :D
[19:04] <stevehope> the instructions onhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI dont work for Acer V3s... i posted my methoid on askubuntu
[19:05] <stevehope> post install need to ass shimx64 maunally
[19:05] <stevehope> *add
[19:05] <stevehope> shimx64.efi i mean
[19:06] <hamzah_> defence
[19:07] <alkisg> artag: I think you just messed with the system so much that it needs a reformat now to set it right
[19:08] <alkisg> artag: by removing network-manager, you also removed its dependencies, so you'd need to start with a package comparison against a normal installation
[19:21] <MagePsycho> Which is you favorite #dotfiles? https://dotfiles.github.io/ - Can you guys help me to select one? totally confused
[19:22] <k1l_> MagePsycho: this is the ubuntu support :)
[19:22] <MagePsycho> dotfiles for ubuntu
[19:23] <dean> I'm installing the drivers from: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new for the rtl8723be & it's causing a kernel panic on both the 4.8.0-36 kernel in 16.04 and it's latest kernel. Any one else experiencing this?
[19:23] <MagePsycho> how you manage hidden .dotfiles in ubuntu
[19:24] <dean> MagePsycho: I don't have many but i cp my i3 config and Xresources and stuff to Documents/dotfiles and make a git repo.
[19:24] <MagePsycho> you use symlink or rsync approach for it
[19:25] <ppf> MagePsycho: git
[19:28] <ppf> as in, put your dotfiles in a git repo and clone it on all your machines
[19:29] <ppf> and i'm not using symlinks
[19:30] <dean> No i just literally use the cp command. Pretty low tech solution but hey it works lol. there's been a few discussions on reddit.com/r/unixporn about better ways of doing it.
[19:31] <ppf> that's too annoying, i have to cp a lot of files
[19:31] <ppf> just clone it into home and be done with it
[19:41] <Guest123> Am I here?
[19:42] <ppf> you are indeed!
[19:45] <papamoose> Hi all, I was hoping someone would be able to direct me to the proper place to ask about Ubuntu's file manager and how it handles a hidden ~/.zfs directory. The error it presents the first time (usually) the file manager loads is( http://imgur.com/u3e1vXQ ): "This location could not be displayed. Sorry, could not display all the contents of "<username>": Error when getting information for file '/home/<username>/.zfs' Input/output error".
[19:45] <papamoose> This directory is mounted via NFS.
[19:45] <Guest123> !nautilus
[19:45] <Guest123> !filesystem
[19:46] <Guest123> !filemanager
[19:46] <Guest123> Maybe, try that link, papamoose?
[19:48] <Bashing-om> papamoose: " file '/home/<username>/.zfs' Input/output error"." . Are you sure the drive is healthy, and have you ran a fils system check ? I/O error generally hardware related .
[19:48] <Guest123> !fsck
[19:49] <papamoose> ~/.zfs is a virtual, read only file system. Right now I assume that nautilus expects that directory to have certain properties (which it doesn't) and fails to "open" said directory.
[19:49] <Guest123> Papamoose, maybe turn on show hidden files?
[19:49] <KnightGnome> hey everone
[19:50] <Guest123> Right click and change properties
[19:53] <ducasse> papamoose: you can read it ok from a terminal?
[19:53] <papamoose> ducasse: yes.
[19:54] <papamoose> it also loads fine after I've launched nautilus once
[19:54] <Guest123> So, it does work?
[20:01] <Jordan_U> papamoose: How are you mounting this NFS share? What happens if you list the directorie's contents with "ls" at a terminal before trying to read the directory with nautilus?
[20:02] <papamoose> `ls` works fine.
[20:02] <papamoose> nautilus works fine the second time you open it.
[20:05] <papamoose> I was hoping you guys would know of some knob i could turn to tell nautilus to ignore this directory.
[20:05] <papamoose> or premtively mark it such that it doesn't throw this error.
[20:08] <Jordan_U> papamoose: Can you confirm that if you list the contents of the directory with "ls" *before* running nautilus the first time it still has this error? Please also tell us how you are mounting this NFS share.
[20:09] <adrian_1908> Hey, random question. Is anyone else getting an strange font on YouTube for numerical elements like View Count, Thumbs Up Count, Release Date? My system is using an arabic font, I wonder if I've uninstalled anything by accident.
[20:09] <papamoose> Jordan_U: Yes. rw,ac,hard,async,intr,nodev,exec,rsize=16384,wsize=16384,noatime,relatime
[20:10] <Jordan_U> papamoose: Does that mean that you're mounting it with the mount command? Via fstab? Something else?
[20:11] <ducasse> papamoose: i don't have nautilus, but thunar works fine first time and loads .zfs as it should.
[20:11] <ducasse> (over nfs)
[20:11] <papamoose> Jordan_U: Sorry, i guess that was unclear. Yes, fstab: 'someserver:/homes	/home	nfs4	rw,ac,hard,async,intr,nodev,exec,rsize=16384,wsize=16384,noatime,relatime	0	0'
[20:12] <papamoose> ducasse: thanks for that info. I believe this issue is nautilus related. Unless I have some weird mount options... but I don't think that is the case.
[20:15] <ducasse> papamoose: which ubuntu version is this?
[20:15] <papamoose> 16.04.1
[20:15] <papamoose> client and server are the same.
[20:16] <awesomess3> how much space do the graphics drivers take up in the latest Ubuntu DVD ISO?
[20:16] <ducasse> papamoose: ah. i'm on 17.04, so there's no point in me installing nautilus as it would be an entirely different version.
[20:16] <papamoose> its probably worth running nautilus in debug mode then.
[20:18] <Jordan_U> papamoose: It looks like "intr" is depricated since linux 2.6.25, and I don't know why you have both noatime and relatime. But neither of those is likely to cause this problem.
[20:19] <papamoose> Jordan_U: thats not surprising, these mount setting have been migrated from systems that were from before that era.
[20:20] <OerHeks> awesomess3, nobosy asked that before, what is your goal with that answer?
[20:22] <tuf> hello
[20:24] <awesomess3> OerHeks: I was trying to find a good reason to create an Arch liveUSB ISO because you can deselect stuff you don't need. So I was wondering how much space I could save in my liveUSB partition.
[20:26] <k1l_> awesomess3: then better ask the arch guys about their setups and not #ubuntu
[20:26] <visiona> I am still struggling to set up my wifi connection. my wireless 1: brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN is hard blocked, I tried keys combinations, many commands and still off. I would appreciate any help
[20:26] <awesomess3> OerHeks: I looked at the ubuntu packages and I looked at the driver names for the graphic drivers... /lib/modules/3.19.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/  with weird names that don't even have nvidia, or ati, or msi on them...
[20:26] <kenrin> You check bios visiona,  or rfkill ?
[20:26] <k1l_> visiona: does "sudo rfkill unblock all" help?
[20:27] <awesomess3> OerHeks: and there was only like 18 of them...............so maybe graphics drivers aren't that big of a deal to make it so that you can run your liveUSB on basically any computer with any gfx card.
[20:27] <visiona> kenrin: yes, but I do not have any options for wireless in BIOS, however i brought settings to defaults in BIOS and still doesn't work. I have wifi enabled but open any wifi networks
[20:28] <visiona> k1l_: rfkill unblock didn't do anything :(
[20:28] <OerHeks> making a custom iso, what will you gain, a few mb ?
[20:30] <OerHeks> graphics drivers aren't that big of a deal <> run your liveUSB on basically any computer with any gfx card. .. you understand what you wrote?
[20:30] <compdoc> I would love a custom iso that auto-selects the options I normally choose
[20:30] <ducasse> awesomess3: if you want to create an arch liveusb you should ask in #archlinux
[20:31] <OerHeks> preseed file would be more usefull, than editting an iso
[20:31] <tgm4883> also, why do you think that '/lib/modules/3.19.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/ ' should have nvidia, ati, or msi in it
[20:34] <Duckle> So if I'm trying to compile a program from github, and the ./configure step fails with "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.18.0) were not met:" which package is it I need to install? It failed with a similar error prior to that, but with gsettings-desktop-schemas as the missing packagage, and installing gsettings-desktop-schemas-dev fixed that (gsettings-desktop-schemas was already installed)
[20:34] <Duckle> I'm assuming I need to install something like gtk+-dev
[20:34] <Duckle> but I can't find such a package
[20:34] <Duckle> I'm running ubuntu 16.04
[20:34] <Jordan_U> awesomess3: It's only 12 MiB uncompressed on my system, and will be significantly less on the Live image because it's compressed with squashfs. It doesn't sound worth bothering with to me.
[20:35] <nicomachus> Duckle: does the github page list dependencies?
[20:35] <nicomachus> or a README?
[20:35] <Duckle> nicomachus: https://github.com/craigcabrey/luminance
[20:35] <Duckle> yep
[20:35] <OerHeks> Jordan_U, oh, i was thinking about 60 mb compressed, nice
[20:35] <Duckle> Just says "GTK+ 3.18 or later"
[20:35] <nicomachus> Duckle: did you install all of the requirements?
[20:36] <Duckle> nicomachus: I can't find the GTK+ package
[20:36] <atf_> hi. Can someone give me a hand getting a graphics card working on a dell running lubuntu
[20:36] <Duckle> sudo apt search GTK+ gets me a lot of libs, but not GTK+
[20:36] <visiona> My investigation brought me  to three potential issues: 1. why I have BCM4312 while in bios I have wlan card as QDS-BRCM1063 - so potentially I need different driver; 2. I installed ubuntu in acpi=off mode, and acpi is responsible also for Fn key not working on my keyboard - Fn + F12 should enable the network (however action key in bios is enabled); 3. Potential option of reinstaling bios
[20:36] <kenrin> You got the libgtk-3-dev installed ?
[20:37] <OerHeks> Duckle, their site says: https://github.com/craigcabrey/luminance/issues/14
[20:38] <nicomachus> Duckle: apt install libgtk-3-dev
[20:38] <Duckle> kenrin: Nope, but thanks for the name :) that's what I couldn't find
[20:38] <kenrin> If you got the normal packages installed always look for -dev
[20:38] <Duckle> kenrin: I was looking for gtk+ I wasn't aware I should be looking for lib :)
[20:38] <atf_> installation on works when I have nomodeset selected (f6 other opytions). However when I start lunbuntu (or ubuntu) the screen is just full on nonsense. I can start in recovery mode and then it work. I think the laptop (not mine) has some kind of weird graphics card
[20:39] <nicomachus> Duckle: sometimes google is better than apt-cache search
[20:39] <Duckle> gotcha
[20:39] <Duckle> I can't use the software center, because that won't open
[20:39] <k1l_> !bcm43xx
[20:39] <Jordan_U> atf_: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"?
[20:39] <Duckle> It's really weird
[20:39] <nicomachus> Duckle: just install from terminal
[20:39] <k1l_> visiona: look if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:39] <Duckle> yeah, that's what I'm doing
[20:40] <atf_> Jordan_U lspci | grep VGA
[20:40] <atf_> opps
[20:40] <OerHeks> Duckle, yakkety 16.10 got 3.20 ..
[20:40] <visiona> ubottu: k1l_: thank you, just checking now
[20:40] <atf_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 35)
[20:40] <Duckle> OerHeks: It should be fine with 3.18 :)
[20:42] <OerHeks> Duckle,  yes, only when you edit the XML to the correct GTK
[20:42] <Jordan_U> atf_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:42] <Duckle> OerHeks: I'm assuming that has changled, because it's not complaining about gtk after installing the dev package
[20:42] <Duckle> OerHeks: It's probably been accepted as a pull reqest since that issue
[20:42] <nicomachus> OerHeks: that thread you linked showed that the devs changed it and corrected it. Shouldn't need to edit the XML
[20:43] <atf_> lubuntu
[20:43] <OerHeks> nice, carry on, sorry for the remarks.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> atf_: What release? (16.04, 16.10, etc)
[20:43] <atf_> 16.04
[20:44] <Jordan_U> atf_: Try post #2 here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=311031 .
[20:45] <Jordan_U> atf_: Be sure to back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf first though by running "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf-bak" .
[20:46] <Duckle> tadah, it worked :D
[20:46] <Duckle> thanks for the help guys
[20:46] <Jordan_U> atf_: Also, it's possible that this workaround won't be needed with Ubuntu 16.10 (though I haven't seen a particular indication that it is).
[20:47] <the_shad0w> hello my fellow ubuntu users...hey i have a quick question that i was hoping someone could assist me with, does anyone recall how to add a new program to the "dash-to-dock" menu?
[20:47] <the_shad0w> i tried alacrate but that did not work...
[20:48] <awesomess3> is it possible to add more packages to Xubuntu 16.04 easily into the ISO? Do I have to extract the squashfs file and then just paste my packages in there (like more up-to-date software)? :-)
[20:49] <the_shad0w> nm...i figured it out!
[21:03] <visiona> I installed  some packages but it didn't help. wifi is still hardblocked
[21:06] <dStruct> I have a bit of a random question.  If I hypothetically have a disk formatted 768 bits per sector is there a way I could somehow natively mount it or access it and copy files off?  I'm trying to avoid DD'ing the disk and digging thru it manually
[21:07] <ikonia> what does the sector size have to do with if you can mount it ?
[21:07] <dStruct> ikonia: not much, but the FS is a bit of an unknown, throw lots of errors if I try a regular mount
[21:08] <ikonia> then why say it ?
[21:08] <dStruct> ikonia: what I have is from a mainframe that runs MPX-32 UNIX, which I believe was spun off of AT&T UNIX
[21:08] <ikonia> dStruct: so what is the file system on it
[21:09] <dStruct> ikonia: I wish I could tell you, it doesn't show up as a known type
[21:09] <ikonia> dStruct: doesn't show up where ?
[21:09] <ikonia> where are you expecting something to diagnose the file system for you ?
[21:09] <dStruct> ikonia: well I should clarify that statement, the partition type doesn't show up as a known type
[21:10] <ikonia> what has the partition type got to do with the file system ?
[21:11] <atf_> Hi - I'm new to this! how do I create a new txt file in etc/ with root access?
[21:12] <ikonia> atf_: sudo
[21:13] <atf_> I'm using lunbtu 16.40. I treied sudoedit and it told me know such file exists
[21:13] <ikonia> atf_: when you save the file it will create the file
[21:14] <atf_> i've created file in leafpad. I tried to save it and I get a permission denied when i try to create the folder
[21:14] <ikonia> atf_: how are you creating the folder
[21:15] <atf_> sorry my mistae - i need to sude leafpad! I'll get there. thanks
[21:22] <atf2> Hi Jordan_U : link didn;t work - still have the same problem with the graphics when I oot
[21:22] <munchkin24> Can anyone help me with why my Kraken usb headset is no longer working?
[21:23] <munchkin24> It's showing in my sound settings, and I can select it, but no sound is coming out of it
[21:25] <Jordan_U> atf2: Please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf .
[21:26] <tmch2> Hi! Did anybody ever have a 'no space on drive' error with df showing free space?
[21:27] <k1l_> tmch2: look at "df -i"
[21:27] <atf2> !tab Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/24336450/
[21:27] <tmch2> Thank you! it
[21:27] <munchkin24> Can anyone help me with my Razer usb headset? http://askubuntu.com/questions/447718/no-sound-on-usb-headset-how-to-manage-soundcards-and-audio-devices#448294 isn't showing me anything different
[21:27] <tmch2> 's that.
[21:27] <atf2> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/24336450/
[21:27] <atf2> !tab
[21:30] <tmch2> A stupid question while we're at it: Can I add more inodes? Or is it only possible by removing files?
[21:30] <k1l_> you can create more inodes just on formating
[21:31] <atf2> Jordan_U: I think it's a hybrid graphics card if that makes any diiference
[21:31] <k1l_> so now better get rid of old files. look at old kernel headers for example
[21:32] <tmch2> thank you
[21:33] <munchkin24> What's the best way to determine the amount of support for a distro?
[21:33] <munchkin24> Because I've been asking the same question, and so far only gotten one repsonse
[21:33] <fatalhalt> RedHat
[21:34] <SlidingHorn> munchkin24, lurk their IRC channels & support forums.  Keep an eye out for how quickly/sufficiently people's responses are answered
[21:34] <munchkin24> SlidingHorn: Good idea. Thanks
[21:34] <k1l_> munchkin24: did you search the forums or askubuntu for other people with that hardware?
[21:34] <munchkin24> Yup
[21:35] <munchkin24> Even installed drivers from someone attempting to help with Razer products on Linux systems
[21:35] <SlidingHorn> munchkin24, (and we're going off topic, so let's continue in #ubuntu-offtopic after this if you're interested) IMO ubuntu & arch seem to have the best/most active support communities. Depends on your familiarity w/ linux systems though.
[21:35] <fatalhalt> i'm experiencing a framebuffer corruption upon Resume around the edges of windows? any ideas? unity decorator bug? https://u.nya.is/dqsmph.jpg using nvidia blob and geforce 900 series gfx card
[21:38] <Jordan_U> atf2: Did you need to create the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory or did it already exist?
[21:38] <atf_> Jordan_U: i needed to create it
[21:40] <Jordan_U> munchkin24: If nobody knows the answer to your particular question then nobody will respond. It may be that your question is just particularly hard to answer.
[21:40] <Jordan_U> atf_: Try an Ubuntu 16.10 LiveUSB and see if you can boot it without nomodeset.
[21:41] <DocMAX> ello i'm stuck on "This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.17, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade" in apt upgrade
[21:41] <atf_> will do - v slow internet (still 40 mins to download) will try tomorrow. thanks for your help s far
[21:42] <AndChat330644> How do I wipe a hdd with minimal install CD
[21:42] <munchkin24> Jordan_U: Understandable
[21:43] <munchkin24> Doesn't make it any less annoying, but I can try google
[21:43] <tomreyn> AndChat330644: i'm not sure it has the tools for it. you'd need hdparm if you want to do a secure ata erase
[21:44] <Jordan_U> AndChat330644: What is your goal in wiping the drive?
[21:45] <AndChat330644> Jordan_U securely removing all the data
[21:45] <wx> do i need to set zfs to automount
[21:45] <wx> if i created a zfs pool
[21:45] <AndChat330644> Thanks tomreyn
[21:45] <tomreyn> AndChat330644: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
[21:46] <wx> i found conflicting info online about if i should add it to fstab, use automount, or do nothing
[21:46] <wx> im running 16.10 ubuntu
[21:46] <bradley> i have a samsung printer that i use as a networked printer... how do i get ubuntu to recognize it? I've gone to settings>printers>add a printer and it finds it and then seems to add it but i can't print anything
[21:47] <munchkin24> Anyone have much experience usb headsets in Linux? Maybe there's configuration issues with my headset?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> bradley: What happens when  you try to print to it?
[21:47] <munchkin24> Or maybe a place where I can purchase Linux compatible hardware? I do need a mouse and apparently a headset
[21:48] <Jordan_U> !hcl | munchkin24
[21:48] <jennie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24336553/ Please tell me why i can not mount this windows 10 partition? :S
[21:49] <wx> i didnt know windows 10 was a file system
[21:49] <coffeeguy> ntfs?
[21:49] <bekks> jennie: Use /dev/sda3 not /dev/sda3/
[21:50] <Jordan_U> jennie: Because you included a '/' at the end of your path, which means that it is a directory. Try "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/win/".
[21:51] <Jordan_U> bradley: Also, if it supports Google Cloud Print that might be a way to get around driver issues.
[21:51] <munchkin24> Jordan_U: https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/ready/ is a link to the "archive of hardware" which is spitting a 404 error at me
[21:51] <munchkin24> Jordan_U: And the "Certified Hardware" link, has Desktops, servers, SoC, nothing regarding headsets or mice
[21:52] <jennie> bekks: Jordan_U now this is coming up http://paste.ubuntu.com/24336569/
[21:53] <k1l_> that is the fake shutdown from windows10
[21:53] <wx> do i need to set zfs to automount?
[21:53] <wx> if i created a zfs pool
[21:53] <wx> i found conflicting info online about if i should add it to fstab, use automount, or do nothing
[21:53] <k1l_> it doesnt really shutdown the partitions properly, to simulate a faster reboot time
[21:53] <k1l_> jennie: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda3
[21:54] <tomreyn> jennie: IIRC if you hold down shift while selection the options to shut down windows then it should shut down properly.
[21:56] <Jordan_U> k1l_: If Windows 10 is hibernated then what will ntfsfix do?
[21:56] <kud> hi guys
[21:56] <k1l_> Jordan_U: it will "fix" it :)
[21:57] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I can't think of a good way to "fix" the fact that the filesytem is frozen other than booting Windows and completely shutting it down.
[21:58] <jennie> ok i am trying tomreyn shift trick
[21:58] <k1l_> Jordan_U: its not that windows is hibernated on purpose. it uses this "not clean unmount" technic to let the reboot time fasten up a bit. you need to deactivate it in the settings manually.
[21:59] <kud> does anyone know how to remove half-installed software on Ubuntu?
[21:59] <k1l_> kud: put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[21:59] <kud> I nstalled Electrum using python install
[22:00] <nacc> kud: you mean you ran a command like `python install ... ` ?
[22:00] <kud> yes
[22:00] <nacc> kud: you will need to hope that whatever you used has an 'uninstall' command then, otherwise not much we can do
[22:00] <kud> and got an error so it didnt install
[22:00] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I know you need to deactivate it in Windows' settings. But you're not recommending that, you're recommending using ntfsfix. If the system is hibernated then at best ntfsfix will do nothing, at worst it will clear the dirty bit which would be a very bad thing. (And in the medium case it will flip the bit to trigger a chkdsk at next boot unecessarily).
[22:00] <nacc> kud: use actual ubuntu packages or `checkinstall` or something
[22:00] <kud> now it shows as installed but I can use or remove it
[22:01] <munchkin24> SlidingHorn: So, I can't join that channel why?
[22:01] <SlidingHorn> munchkin24, you have to have a registered nick on freenode
[22:01] <munchkin24> Awesome
[22:02] <bradley> Jordan_U: i get a message that says "processing" but nothing happens (but i can print from other computers)
[22:04] <k1l_> Jordan_U: yes. if the windows was really hibernated, it would run the fsck on next windows boot. imho, the ntfsfix is a good thing to be able to mount windows partitions while not having slower boot times on windows.
[22:05] <bradley> Jordan_U: and i try to print something else from ubuntu the print dialogue box says: "Unable to locate printer SECxxxxx.local"
[22:06] <Jordan_U> k1l_: Why would you want to run chkdsk at the next boot when there is nothing wrong with the filesystem? How des that help you mount the partition without having slower boot times on windows? Now instead of just rebooting and holding shift to shut down Windows you have to reboot, wait for chkdsk to complete, *and* hold down shift when shutting down Windows.
[22:06] <runessa> Hi guys!
[22:08] <k1l_> Jordan_U: because 1) who ever said that system is in hibernation? one can assume its the standard win10 fake shutdown where ntfsfix works 2) ntfsfix works now, no reboot needed
[22:09] <Jordan_U> k1l_: Windows fake shutdown *is* hibernation.
[22:09] <k1l_> Jordan_U: no it isnt
[22:09] <bradley> Jordan_U: do i need to install special samsung drivers? i don't remember doing that in the past
[22:10] <k1l_> Jordan_U: its just handling the partitions as if it was hibernation
[22:11] <Jordan_U> k1l_: No, it's logging off all users then hibernating. It's much more about the OS than it is about the filesystem. See https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/
[22:12] <Jordan_U> k1l_: If ntfsfix allows you to mount a partition from a "fasboot" hibernated Windows then I consider that dangerous, and hopefully ntfsfix can be fixed to disallow such usage.
[22:12] <jennie> thanks guys i got the windows mounted with shift shutdown
[22:12] <bradley> Jordan_U: oh, and i get a dialogue bubble that says error connecting to device when i try to print
[22:12] <k1l_> Jordan_U: that is exactly what ntfsfix is made for
[22:13] <Jordan_U> k1l_: No, ntfsfix is older than fastboot.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> k1l_: And its manual doesn't mention fastboot or hibernation anywhere than I could finx.
[22:14] <jennie> i installed this software, now i am wondering where did it go? can i just use it from terminal/ https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/trusty/android-tools-fsutils
[22:14] <Jordan_U> s/finx/find/
[22:14] <finisterra_> I am having trouble getting touchscreen to work in Gnome. Please help.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I have provided you with a source demonstrating that this is hibernation. I hope that you can realize that changing a filesystem that is part of a hibernated OS is a bad idea. If you cannot find a source showing that this is safe I ask that you please stop giving this advice.
[22:15] <deeno> I was wonder how an Solid State Drive works. Can a solid state be ruined permanently thru bad partitioning?
[22:15] <jennie> s@s:~$ sim2gimg  ,No command 'sim2gimg' found, did you mean:  Command 'simg2img' from package 'android-tools-fsutils' (main), sim2gimg: command not found
[22:15] <jennie> found or not found ? :S
[22:15] <jennie> nevermind
[22:16] <Jordan_U> deeno: No. No combination of bits written to the disk can cause physical damage. That said, having unaligned partitions could lead to more writes than you should have during normal operation, and that could eventually reduce the life of the drive.
[22:17] <k1l_> Jordan_U: using ntfsfix is a known solution to this issue. but i will stop giving advice then on that issue
[22:17] <deeno> Jordan_U: there no eproms which determine the partition table then? Do you know of any software which can fix this?
[22:17] <deeno> there are*
[22:18] <bradley> i have a samsung printer that i use as a networked printer... how do i get ubuntu to recognize it? I've gone to settings>printers>add a printer and it finds it and then seems to add it but i can't print anything. When i print a test page it just says "processing" and then i get a bubble saying "Printing Error connecting-to-device".
[22:18] <Jordan_U> k1l_: The first link for the search "fstboot ntfs" is to this post: https://sudopacman.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/dont-use-ntfsfix-in-linux-just-turn-off-fast-boot-in-windows/ saying not to do it, and that when they did it it lead to file loss.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> deeno: What are you trying to fix?
[22:19] <k1l_> deeno: its about the "alignement". so if one sector matches one sector on the ssd. so its not changing 2 sectors because its overlapping.
[22:20] <k1l_> deeno: gparted on ubuntu does this alignement automatically
[22:20] <kenrin> bradley: did you go to samsung website and install the printer driver?
[22:20] <deeno> deeno: my SSD partition table
[22:21] <bradley> kenrin: i didn't but i don't remember doing it with my other ubuntu installs... is this something new?
[22:21] <bradley> kenrin: i pretty sure i was just using CUPS
[22:22] <tomreyn> bradley: some printeres are supporte dout of the box, others are not.
[22:22] <tomreyn> which model do you have there?
[22:22] <Jordan_U> bradley: Does that printer support Google Cloud Print?
[22:23] <deeno> I was also interested in paying for a Kubuntu compact disc, but perhaps it is copy protected now. ?? But if you give me to much compassion; anybody might abuse it.
[22:23] <kenrin> If its using CUPs you can enable debug and see what the error is
[22:23] <k1l_> deeno: you might want to ask in #kubuntu
[22:24] <bradley> tomreyn: it is the same printer on the same network with two differnet computers ubuntu-gnome 16.04 desktop (which is printing fine) and the one i am having problems with ubuntu gnome 16.10 notebook
[22:25] <bradley> kenrin: how do i enable debug for CUPS & is there a way to tell what drivers are being used?
[22:25] <tomreyn> bradley: oh, well maybe you need to compare their configurations then,
[22:25] <kenrin> You might want to read this page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[22:27] <tomreyn> bradley: if you're using CUPS to print on the 16.04 system then take a look at /etc/cups/printers.conf there and compare it to the one on the 16.10
[22:28] <tomreyn> (you need to be root to read this file)
[22:28] <bradley> tomreyn: ok, i will do that now
[22:30] <kud> Am I still in?
[22:30] <kud> I thought I got kicked out for inactivity
[22:32] <kud> Are distros made for pentesting more secure than others?
[22:32] <kud> Do they have more privacy?
[22:32] <k1l_> kud: no. most times they dont care about own security
[22:33] <OerHeks> would you use/store sensitive info on a pentesting system ?
[22:33] <kud> kil_: so they just have tools for offensive activities
[22:34] <k1l_> kud: most pentesting distros are not meant to be run as user systems. but i guess you better ask the distros guys or in ##linux
[22:34] <kud> I downloaded BackBox and was contemplating switching
[22:35] <bradley> tomreyn: ok, i have both outputs. here is the one that is working: https://pastebin.com/QprKipgK
[22:35] <kud> k1l_: I think you answered me  sufficiently
[22:36] <bradley> tomreyn: and here is the one that doesn't work https://pastebin.com/M15kpCXe
[22:37] <deeno> I guess you can't fix a broken SSD partition table.
[22:38] <kud> later guys
[22:42] <bradley> tomreyn: i have to go, i'll check back in later to see if you are around
[23:04] <sere84> anyone know if there is a fix for the banshee crashing when i mount my google drive
[23:12] <thiras> why ZFS only supported for storage and not also root fs?
[23:13] <nacc> thiras: because it's not? it would require extensive testing, etc. and zfs was a late add for 16.04, iirc
[23:14] <nacc> thiras: there are ways to do it, i believe documented on the zfs github page, but not with stock ubuntu (at least not 16.04)
[23:14] <thiras> so we may get it for root level too at future LTS, as i understand
[23:15] <nacc> thiras: maybe
[23:15] <k1l_> thiras: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu
[23:15] <thiras> it would be great if we can. it's obviously superior FS than ext family (at least for feature focused view)
[23:17] <k1l_> and according to http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2017/04/thank-you-note-to-hackernews.html  there are some intern testings on that topic
[23:35] <ubuntu-studio> iiii
[23:36] <the_count> Hello! I was just trying to install gnome with ' sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ' but it says I have unmet dependencies, and then something else about held broken packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337107/
[23:36] <k1l_> the_count: sudo apt install -f
[23:37] <the_count> k1l: It doesn't do anyting
[23:37] <the_count> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337107/
[23:37] <k1l_> that is the same paste
[23:38] <the_count> k1l: Says ' Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Done0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. '
[23:39] <Lorne> Hey - I'm trying to mount an NTFS drive by installing NTFS-3G... but get the following errors... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337115/  Any thoughts>
[23:40] <wastrel> i installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop yesterday it worked fine
[23:40] <wastrel> 16.04
[23:40] <the_count> wastrel: I have 16.04 as wel
[23:41] <wastrel> i'm told you can just install gnome-shell and a few other things
[23:41] <wastrel> rather than the whole metapackage
[23:41] <wastrel> also: it messed up my unity fonts
[23:41] <k1l_> the_count: "sudo apt install -f" should try to fix the missing bits
[23:42] <k1l_> the_count: can you please run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:43] <k1l_> Lorne: ntfs-3g is not your issue
[23:43] <the_count> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337136/
[23:43] <k1l_> Lorne: "ntfs-3g is already the newest version"
[23:43] <k1l_> Lorne: this is your error: "grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory."
[23:44] <k1l_> the_count: make sure universe is enabled
[23:45] <the_count> k1l: It is
[23:46] <k1l_> the_count: apt policy gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-music
[23:46] <compdoc> I think you have to install gnome-shell too
[23:47] <k1l_> compdoc: the meta package should pull all those as dependencies. which it tries actually, according to the paste
[23:47] <the_count> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337149/
[23:47] <Lorne> kll:  ok - good call.  How do I fix that error?
[23:48] <Lorne> kll: what makes the EFI dir?
[23:48] <k1l_> the_count: "sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" see if it works now after the new repo list
[23:49] <the_count> k1l_: Just tried that, and same message
[23:49] <k1l_> the_count: "sudo apt-get install -f" please shwo the output
[23:50] <Lorne> k1l: sorry...squinting to read your name...!    What creates an EFI dir?
[23:50] <the_count> k1l_: Same message: Reading package lists... Done
[23:50] <the_count> Building dependency tree
[23:50] <the_count> Reading state information... Done
[23:50] <the_count> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:51] <k1l_> the_count: sudo apt install gnome-shell
[23:52] <the_count> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337163/
[23:53] <k1l_> Lorne: i am not familiar with that efi stuff. but looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1571925 and if comment 6 could work
[23:53] <Lorne> k1l thx.   I'm reading some of that...and came across "boot repair"... may give that a try.  Thx!
[23:54] <k1l_> the_count: sudo apt install gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon
[23:54] <Guest123> How do you get boot-repair?
[23:54] <debianarm> is this phone working with a debian x file system
[23:54] <the_count> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337167/
[23:56] <debianarm> well i still dont have sound hooks mapped for alsa utilities
[23:56] <k1l_> the_count: its mixing packages from regular repo and updates repo
[23:57] <the_count> k1l_: So, is there any way to fix it?
[23:57] <k1l_> debianarm: this is the ubuntu support. for debian issue /join #debian
[23:57] <OerHeks> the_count, all these actions seems odd, is there a kernel reboot pending??
[23:58] <the_count> OerHeks: Not that I know of, I can try that
[23:58] <debianarm> there is no way to gey access to those bastards
[23:58] <debianarm> debian is blocked
[23:58] <k1l_> the_count: apt policy gnome-session-common gnome-settings-daemon-schemas gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon
[23:58] <debianarm> for a long time hundreds oft
[23:59] <k1l_> debianarm: then dont run irc as root. ask in ##linux
[23:59] <debianarm> k11 yea yea change user later