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[01:55] <phunyguy> Unit193: how would I go about restoring the xubuntu default session settings?  my home dotfiles are pretty messed up already from all of this.
[01:58] <Unit193> phunyguy: Generally speaking, nuke .cache/session(s?) and .config/xfce4/ , I'd do it after stopping lightdm though.  Should set you back to defaults.
[04:10] <phunyguy> Unit193: I am on regular ubuntu now to test things out, and I am having the same type of issues with the qt apps and indicators.
[04:10] <phunyguy> so who knows.
[07:17] <xubuntu32> help
[07:17] <knome> you're welcome
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[13:30] <xubuntu45w> would you recommend installing the LTS over 17.04
[13:30] <xubuntu45w> on a system that I use exclusively
[13:30] <xubuntu45w> for everything
[13:33] <xubuntu45w> because I'm currently running 16.10 and haven't experienced many bugs. 16.10 has actually run more smoothly than 16.04 from what I remember. So why do people recommend the LTS releases as being more 'stable' images?
[13:46] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu45w: support for nonLTS releases is only 8 months
[13:46] <pmjdebruijn> 9 months
[13:46] <pmjdebruijn> so you're forced to move to a new nonLTS within 3 months after a releases to be able to get security updates
[13:46] <pmjdebruijn> and possibly have to deal with new issues
[13:47] <pmjdebruijn> keep in mind that 16.04.2 has the hardware enablement stack from 16.10 builtin
[13:47] <pmjdebruijn> so hardware support should be similar to 16.10
[13:47] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu45w: hopefully that clears some stuff up?
[13:48] <xubuntu45w> Yeah
[13:48] <xubuntu45w> So it's just a matter of how long the support term is?
[13:49] <xubuntu45w> In other words, if I plan on upgrading in another 3 months anyway, shouldn't I just install 17.04?
[13:53] <xubuntu45w> pmjdebruijn: if I can upgrade to the latest release without experiencing bugs or system issues, I'd rather do that than use an LTS
[14:01] <Artemis3> xubuntu45w, it everything works, stick to LTS
[14:03] <Artemis3> xubuntu45w, it is the pain of having to endure a system upgrade every 6~9 months, an upgrade which may not be reliable. Stick to LTS and that annoyance only comes every 2~5 years.
[14:06] <pmjdebruijn> generally speaking I tend to agree with Artemis3
[14:06] <pmjdebruijn> life is too short to upgrade every six months
[14:10] <pmjdebruijn> but in the end it's whatever anybody wants
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[20:14] <adrian_1908> hey, could anyone be so kind to visit youtube and check out some random video. I'm suddenly getting a strange font for numerical elements (view count, release date, thumbs up) and wonder if that's on my side, e.g. accidental deletion of something.
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> adrian_1908: Safe to assume you've closed the browser, restarted it and tried again?
[20:17] <adrian_1908> yes
[20:19] <adrian_1908> so you don't have it occur, right?
[20:19] <YankDownUnder> adrian_1908: Nah, bro.
[20:21] <adrian_1908> ok, thanks. I'll try more things then, strange.
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> adrian_1908: Questions to ask: What did I do before this happened? What did I change? What did I update? What did I install? What settings or configurations were changed?
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> adrian_1908: One minor thing can cause a ripple effect.
[20:23] <adrian_1908> Fresh boot, I don't recall doing anything in term of updates yesterday, at least not anything that wouldn't have occurred for others like an update. (phone, brb)
[20:25] <YankDownUnder> adrian_1908: Something has changed in between the time it worked properly and now. It's generally merely a matter of digging to find out exactly what it is. It can't be aliens or solar flares or terrorists.
[20:40] <adrian_1908> Sorry phone, back. I wanted to make sure it's not on YouTube's side or something that otherwise happened to everyone. I'll do the annoying stuff now like rebooting, deleting all cookies etc :D
[20:40] <mrkramps> adrian_1908, cleaning the cache might already help
[20:41] <mrkramps> but yeah, i recognized some minor font stuff going on at YT in the last days
[20:41] <mrkramps> for me it was just some more bold fonts where i did not expect them
[20:43] <adrian_1908> I see. Strange though, that the non-numerical text is rendered in a different font (Roboto) than the numbers (Noto Naskh Arabic UI), without actually being a different HTML element, like a <span>.
[20:44] <adrian_1908> Ok, i'll go through the routine now, thanks guys!
[20:53] <mrkramps> might be an issue with noto sans … o.O
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> I've sent a complaint letter - very strongly worded - that YouTube needs to be rebooted, and if they've changed anything, it MUST be changed back. ASAP. STRONGLY WORDED. With a heap of exclamation points. (end sarcasm)