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lordievaderGood morning.06:33
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* acheronuk yawns09:16
acheronukmorning :)09:16
acheronukno RC isos yet, but I guess a few things are still settling/migrating from proposed (not our stuff)09:24
BluesKajHiyas all10:58
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acheronukhmmm. that iso boots to use 430MB of memory. not bad ^^^^^12:59
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IrcsomeBot1<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Is baloo running by default?13:24
acheronuklemme check13:24
acheronukdon't see it in the process list13:27
yofelwasn't that an on-demand thing? if there's nothing to index you won't notice it13:43
acheronukyofel: could well be. I've got just so much into the habit of disabling baloo, and before it nepomuk/strigi etc, that I honestly am not 100% sure any more.  14:09
ahoneybunis there something holding the final iso from posting/building14:47
acheronukthere is a new gcc with running tests, and a new ubiquity and unity 7 upload with a freeze block on them. so maybe those amongst others waiting for infinity etc to start his day? 14:53
ahoneybunnew unity 7?14:54
acheronukjust guessing there, but got the impression that later in the weekend for the iso's would not be unexpected14:54
acheronukhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity14:54
acheronukhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/7.5.0+17.04.20170407.1-0ubuntu114:55
acheronuka fix it seems14:55
ahoneybunthanks acheronuk14:55
ahoneybundid that kubuntu-setting upload get pushed?14:55
acheronukyep :)14:56
ahoneybunnice14:56
ahoneybunwould that take effect on current systems?14:56
acheronukseems to work nicely in the KCI iso14:56
ahoneybunmm I don't think it's an update to unity7 just rebuilding with the new gcc14:57
acheronukahoneybun: no. it's just an altered default for new users. it would take effect on any new user on a current system, once you have the update14:57
ahoneybundamn14:57
acheronukaltering the behaviour for users who have already made a choice would not be a good plan anyway, unless it was a severe bug14:59
acheronukif your korganiser reminder daemon autostarts on current system, it cam be turned off quite simply15:00
acheronukgets rid of one thing that makes akonadi start anyway....15:00
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IrcsomeBot1<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> And that was the idea :)16:42
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mparilloRelease candidates are starting to land: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds Alas, no Kubuntu yet.18:07
acheronukmparillo: amd64 is build for us, and i386 waiting to publish18:15
acheronuk*building18:15
clivejooooo my lock screen has media controls18:18
clivejowhen was that introduced?18:19
acheronukthey made commit about pausing/muting media playback on locking a few weeks ago? so maybe to do with that?18:23
clivejoonly noticed there18:24
IrcsomeBot1<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Photo, 1169x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mMO004hy/file_2336.jpg18:27
clivejonice touch 18:27
* acheronuk is tempted to upgrade....18:29
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clivejoI would kinda like to switch devel branch to master 18:30
acheronukyeeeeeeesssssssss.18:32
clivejowork on Plasma 5.9.5 and have it ready for backports18:33
clivejoPlasma 5.10 is due out 23 May18:34
acheronukbackport to what?18:35
clivejozesty18:35
acheronukthat would go in updates18:35
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acheronukoooh. plasma 5.10 \o?18:36
clivejowell the plan was to do it last cycle18:38
clivejoand it will allow us to keep working without the new devel brance name18:40
acheronukwell, 5.9.5 should be very simple, and I hope we have the AA name before that.18:42
acheronukbut it would help not to be always doing stuff on an archive branch (in general)18:43
clivejoI think I should do a complete re-install18:47
clivejokmail is really messed up right now18:48
acheronukin what way?18:49
clivejogetting crashes in akonadi resources18:49
acheronukdoes kmail in staging-kdeapplications work ok?18:50
acheronuk16.12.318:51
clivejono idea18:51
clivejothis its 16.0418:51
clivejo17.0418:51
clivejo!info python-twisted unstable18:52
ubottupython-twisted (source: twisted): Event-based framework for internet applications (dependency package). In component main, is extra. Version 16.6.0-2 (unstable), package size 11 kB, installed size 25 kB18:52
acheronukif you are are on unstable it would really be 17.08 alpha18:52
acheronukwhich could well be broken18:52
clivejoI dunno, I dont understand the kmail versioning18:52
clivejoits only gmail thats broken18:53
acheronuksuppose I better make a spare email account and test kmail in the staging ppa.18:54
acheronukbefore we push that to backports after release, it will need some testing.18:54
acheronukand looks like no-one has so far18:54
clivejowe need more testers19:00
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acheronukclivejo: you could maybe test it before you add KCI to your new install again?19:02
acheronukthat would be very helpful19:03
clivejoif I do it!19:03
clivejohave to download the iso!19:03
clivejothat'll take me a while19:03
clivejomaybe purge kontact19:05
acheronukseems we have an iso19:05
clivejonew kernel19:06
clivejoeakk19:06
clivejobrb, need reboot19:06
mparilloThanks acheronuk. I see it now.19:07
mparillo!testers19:07
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping yofel, soee, Tm_T, BluesKaj, Quintasan, lordievader, mamarley, vip, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information.19:07
mparillohttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds19:07
acheronukhmmmm19:12
acheronukhow did I mange to give a VM a 1.56 TB virtual disk ??????????19:13
acheronukis zsynced :)19:14
acheronuk*iso19:14
acheronuklive session boots and uses 427 MB of RAM here at first19:17
mparillodd'ing now.19:23
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* vip is going to non-english install19:41
clivejoahoneybun ovidiuflorin any of you about to post a testing blog on kubuntu.org?19:41
mparilloacheronuk: Do you use wireless in your live session? Did you get LP Bug #1572244 19:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572244 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 16.04 requires that the wifi password be entered twice before wifi can be used" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157224419:49
ahoneybunclivejo: not at the moment19:50
acheronukmparillo: only tried in a VM today so far. but did get that in a live session a few weeks ago19:50
acheronukmparillo: may test later/tomorrow on laptop19:51
mparilloAnd how do you get your memory usage?19:51
mparilloI am at .41GiB, per System Monitor, which should eat at least some RAM.19:53
clivejomparillo: how does the boot into plasma feel?19:55
mparilloSweet.19:55
clivejoslower, the same or faster than previous beta iso?19:56
mparilloNot fair to compare because my Beta testing was all in a VM.19:56
mparilloI was at work during the week, and there I have a Win7 host. At home, I have old laptops to play on. Right now a T410.19:58
BluesKajmparillo: I missed the test link you posted earlier20:01
mparilloNote that I almost never get the try/install dialog options any more (except on my poor tiny netbook.20:02
mparilloBluesKaj: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds20:02
BluesKajmparillo:  thanks20:02
mparilloAre you more likely to do an entire disk install or a partitioning install? 20:03
mparilloBecause I can test the other option.20:05
BluesKajmparillo:  partition , install to / , then just set the mountpoint for /home in ubuquity partitioner20:08
BluesKajthat method saves me a lot of work resetting my desktop, aliases, networking etc20:11
mparilloTY, so I will then test the entire disk install. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q20:13
BluesKajI don't run a full blown kubuntu, no pulseaudo, PIM, or NM 20:13
BluesKajright20:16
vipcan I have an opinion about default wallpaper?20:20
mparilloI like that Kubuntu respects upstream defaults so long as nothing breaks.20:21
clivejowhats the opinion?20:21
vipclivejo: ugly as hell20:22
clivejoLOL20:22
vipok, not ugly, but, hmm20:22
vipit looks like somebody made a 800x600 wallpaper, and scaled it to widescreen20:23
vipI'm really into nature based wallpapers20:23
vipgrass, fields, landscapes20:24
clivejotake a look on store.kde.org20:24
mparilloDoes the KDE Software Compilation still exist?20:24
clivejothe what?20:24
vipclivejo: that's not the point, I think default wallpaper should be nice to look at, comfortable20:25
clivejovip: thats the default KDE is shipping20:25
mparilloI think they used to call it the KDE SC for short, and it still appears during the install slide show. I have not heard that in a while, and I wonder if it is obsolete. I bet valorie would know.20:25
clivejoI dont like it either and have a different one20:26
valorieyes, it's gone20:26
valoriethere is just KDE Applications now20:26
mparilloSo it should be gone from our Ubiquity installer.20:26
mparillo?20:26
valorieagreed20:26
valorielast place it should be is 14.0420:26
valorienow it's plasma, frameworks and applications20:27
mparilloAnd the links in the installer do nothing for me. I mentioned it during the beta, but I was in a VM then. Same problem on real HW. Do you know who is our installer guru?20:27
vipclivejo: http://imgur.com/a/80b2120:28
clivejoahoneybun seems to know most about it20:28
mparilloahoneybun: Do you need bug reports?20:28
acheronukvip: https://kver.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/plasma-5-9-wallpaper-canopee/20:30
vipacheronuk: I've read about that wallpaper20:30
vipit is just my personal opinion20:31
acheronukvip: it's grown on me a bit20:31
vipthe wallpaper is fine, really20:31
acheronukthe one for plasma 5.10 https://store.kde.org/p/1170141/20:32
vipbut I just feel, that wallpaper should be more natural20:33
vipEverybody would change it eventually20:33
acheronukIt's just a starting point branding wsoe I suppose20:34
acheronuk*wsie20:34
acheronukor even wise20:34
vipit is also great, you can change it in two clicks20:35
vipI'm just saying, that for me that would be nice having seasoned default wallpaper, that would be more nice than technical; but it is my personal opinon20:38
acheronukmparillo: that bug is there on this laptop in live session20:38
mparillo LP Bug #1572244 ?20:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572244 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 16.04 requires that the wifi password be entered twice before wifi can be used" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157224420:39
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mparillolsb_release -a still says we are development branch. Does that mean there must be another image coming?20:58
clivejoits an RC20:59
clivejofinal isnt until next week20:59
mparilloSo, even if there are no bugs, and no changes to other packages, somebody needs to make that change?20:59
mparilloAnd re-spin the ISOs?21:00
clivejoyup21:00
mparilloTY21:00
clivejoand depending on the bugs, there might be a number of respins before now and final release21:01
clivejobut hopefully not !21:03
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mparilloBut I would give a big shout-out to the devs this release. I have succeeded in what I think are the two most common scenarios (live and full-disk). blueskaj has disappeared, but I bet that means he is testing partitioning, and vip also disappeared, so it means he is testing a non-English install, all with no show-stoppers so far.21:05
clivejois there a wiki release page?21:08
mparilloclivejo: I used to create one based on the beta pages, but then JR used to replace it with a single URL pointing to the news.kubuntu.org post.21:09
clivejoits for a post on kubuntu.org21:09
clivejolike this http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-04-beta-2-released-for-testers/21:10
mparilloI think it is a good idea. ovidiuflorin and ahoneybun probably can post there.21:12
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> mparillo what links are we talking about?21:12
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I can post on the website but not home atm21:13
clivejohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/Beta2/Kubuntu21:13
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Please do file bugs but I think it's too late to change anything in the slideshow now21:13
acheronukhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYlLHfT48ZE21:13
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> 17.10 will be the new slideshow anyway21:13
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> That Simon and I will make21:14
mparilloahoneybun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/168114421:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1681144 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Clicking on URLs in Kubuntu Installer Slideshow does nothing" [Undecided,New]21:14
clivejoacheronuk: do you know him?21:16
mparilloahoneybun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/168114621:16
acheronukclivejo: nope. I meant to post that in offtopic anyway21:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1681146 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Installer Slideshow references obsolete KDE SC" [Undecided,New]21:16
mparilloBoth bugs attached to entire disk install test results: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds/145582/testcases/1300/results/21:20
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Not sure if they will be fixed tbh but I'll look at them21:24
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> At least not in 17.0521:24
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> *17.0421:24
mparilloTY, and certainly they would not cause me to mark the test case as failed.21:24
clivejowould someone touch base with quidsup, see if we could use that video on the release post?21:24
acheronukclivejo: sent a message21:32
acheronuknot a 'we definitely will', but 'is it ok if we decide to...?.21:33
clivejoyup21:34
valoriedo we need RC kub.org story and such?21:51
valorieI didn't think about it in advance21:51
clivejovalorie: I have a draft21:53
clivejobut no wiki page21:54
valoriedo we need a wiki page?21:55
clivejono idea :/21:55
valoriecan't we just use a blurb on top of beta2?21:55
valorielet me check21:55
valoriebleah, I'll c/p the beta2 onto RC21:56
ahoneybunmparillo: about the links in the slideshow22:00
ahoneybunyour talking about if you try to click on them?22:00
geniiZesty schedule says 13th release, but that puts it at second Thurs of april and not 3rd Thurs the 20th ( as all the times before) . Is this actually correct? I always hold the Toronto Release party on the day-of22:00
valorieclivejo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/RC/Kubuntu22:02
clivejogenii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule22:02
valoriegenii: release sched says 23rd22:02
valorieuh22:03
valorieconfusing22:03
valoriewhich is it22:03
geniiYes22:03
clivejowhich sched says 23rd?22:03
ahoneybunApril 26 on the RS22:04
geniiI never ever saw it come out 2nd Thursday of the month before, always the third Thurs22:04
acheronukahoneybun: that's a development week number on the far left column, not a date22:05
acheronukweek 26, April 13th22:06
ahoneybunso it is22:06
geniiOK, got it. thanks guys22:06
acheronukit is confusing. have done that myself 22:06
valorieok, the wiki page is wrong them22:07
valorieis someone fixing or shall I22:07
valorieit's been wrong all along.....22:07
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mparilloahoneybun: Yes, when I hover over the links in the slide show my cursor turns to a finger, but clicking on them does nothing.22:13
ahoneybungot it22:15
valorieok, fixed all the old pages with the wrong date22:16
valorieI think22:16
clivejodid you check with the release team what the actual date is?22:16
mparilloBut the new page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/RC/Kubuntu) has March?22:17
ahoneybunmhall119: what is the release date for 17.04?22:17
tsimonq2ahoneybun: I mean this in the best way possible: read the fine manual ;)22:18
tsimonq2ahoneybun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule22:18
ahoneybunfine manual?22:18
ahoneybuntsimonq2: I mean this in the not best way: read the log22:19
tsimonq2It's a manual that is fine (as in, excellent)22:19
acheronukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2017-April/001209.html22:20
acheronukAs of now, zesty has entered the Final Freeze period in preparation for the final release of Ubuntu 17.04 next week.22:21
geniiWell, if anyone wants free cupcakes and coffee next Thursday, come on down :)  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ca/3546-zesty-zapus-toronto-release-party/22:25
valoriegood grief22:25
valorieI know have a graphics glitch that makes editing difficult22:25
valoriedunno what that sentence said originally said, but it should be accurate now22:26
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ahoneybunwait22:35
ahoneybuntsimonq2: 22:35
ahoneybunlook who is a sub on my branch22:35
ahoneybunhttps://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/zesty22:35
tsimonq2ahoneybun: omfg XD22:37
ahoneybunI know right?22:37
* ahoneybun wonders about pushing a commit saying hi to him22:37
ahoneybuntsimonq2: ^22:40
tsimonq2ahoneybun: Do it XD\22:40
ahoneybunhe's getting emails about all changes22:40
clivejocan you boot him?22:42
ahoneybunI can22:43
ahoneybuntsimonq2: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/zesty/revision/76522:43
ahoneybuntho going to mess with it clivejo22:43
tsimonq2ahoneybun: XD22:44
clivejois that wise?22:44
ahoneybunclivejo: how is it not?, I'm just saying hi22:44
ahoneybunnothing bad22:44
ahoneybunmparillo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/zesty-2/revision/77522:45
clivejoahoneybun: gonna try get that in?22:47
ahoneybunclivejo: going to see if they will merge it22:48
tsimonq2cyphermox: I think it would be absolutely amazing if you could merge that :D22:49
ahoneybuntsimonq2: you know I've not sent a MR yet22:49
ahoneybunif anyone wants to keep an eye out for anything else22:50
ahoneybuntho the translations will still be the same for non english 22:50
ahoneybuncyphermox: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/zesty-2/+merge/322252 hopefully it's small enough to get in22:52
ahoneybunhonestly not sure what to do with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/168114422:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1681144 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Clicking on URLs in Kubuntu Installer Slideshow does nothing" [Undecided,New]22:52
clivejovalorie: did you publish the post?23:12
mparilloahoneybun: Thank you. 23:41

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