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Guest123It's hard to tell which team channel I should go to.00:00
Guest123Does the installer team have their own channel?00:02
OerHeksi just read mr dustin blog with suggestions http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2017/04/thank-you-note-to-hackernews.html00:02
OerHeksmaybe it is #ubuntu-installer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList/Team00:04
OerHeksthere is no mailing list  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer00:05
Bashing-omto slow to hold my attention - g nite o/05:42
lordievaderGood morning.06:33
ducassemorning all06:44
ducasse\o lordievader06:44
lordievaderHey ducasse06:44
lordievaderHow are you doing?06:44
ducassegood thanks, how about you?06:45
lordievaderDoing good, having tea :D06:45
ducassesame here, soon need another cup :)06:47
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BluesKajHiyas all10:58
pauljwHi everyone12:36
BluesKajHi pauljw12:53
pauljwhey BluesKaj :)12:54
BluesKajwhat's happening today ?12:58
pauljwnothing here yet, BluesKaj.  sun is shining, grass is growing... it was 32F about an hour ago.13:22
pauljwdon't know if you got that, my connection was hosed and i didn't realize it... :(13:22
BluesKajyeah i swa your disconnec there, but I knew you'd be back :-013:23
BluesKajoops scuse all the typos  :-)13:24
pauljw:)13:24
lotuspsychjegood evening to all16:19
ducasse\o lotuspsychje16:22
ducassehow was movie night?16:22
lotuspsychjegreat ducasse how are you16:22
ducasseok, thanks. quiet saturday here.16:22
lotuspsychjeducasse: both nice movies16:23
lotuspsychjehey baizon16:24
lotuspsychjehttp://www.thelinuxrain.com/articles/heres-how-gnome-shell-can-look-like-ubuntu-unity16:27
lotuspsychjelol16:27
lotuspsychjealot of unity lovers out there16:27
baizonhmm, but i think ill switch from unity to kde16:29
baizonand try to make it look like unity16:30
baizoni dislike gnome very very much16:30
lotuspsychjehttp://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Shuttleworth-More-G-Comments16:30
lotuspsychjegnome with unity ideas lol16:30
lotuspsychjesnaps will continue16:32
baizonbut unity 8 wont :(16:35
lotuspsychjeyeah too bad, would have been nice to have the choice16:36
lotuspsychjebaizon: lets hope the ubports guys find a big breakthrough16:37
lotuspsychjesomeone remember the variables trigger?16:37
baizonthat will take a long time16:39
baizonthey dont have the resources i think16:39
lotuspsychjebaizon: im not sure, cause mariogrip is on that project, he made a big deal on several phones16:40
lotuspsychjebaizon: but indeed, i understand its not the same as its supported by ubuntu by default..16:41
lotuspsychjewb Menzador17:07
Menzadoryo17:07
lotuspsychjehey brunch87517:17
immu_ubuntuhi17:34
BenderRodriguezimmu_ubuntu: what is your thoughts on Shuttleworth's decisionto kill Unity17:42
immu_ubuntui respect his decision17:42
BenderRodriguez...17:42
* BenderRodriguez takes immu_ubuntu off his cool people17:42
BenderRodriguezlist17:42
immu_ubuntubut at the same time i am deeply saddened with the decision also17:43
BluesKajI suspect we  kde/plasma users don't care one way or the other, at least I don't :-)17:44
immu_ubuntuUnity8 was so close to completion but without support of others its hard to justify the cost that was draining the companies profitablity17:44
immu_ubuntucan someone confirm if google services are down or not17:46
immu_ubuntuhey BluesKaj whats up17:46
MenzadorBluesKaj: Lol, that's OK. I've been a GNOME advocate ever since I got my hands on the latest version of it :)17:46
BenderRodriguezReally17:46
BluesKajafaik a lot of ubuntu users thought shuttleworth was taking Canonical in the wrong direction anyway17:46
BenderRodriguezGNOME 3 was an attempt at joining the mobile/touchpad bandwagon17:47
MenzadorWhich is interesting.17:47
BenderRodriguezwith it's huge UI buttons17:47
lotuspsychjethats true BluesKaj17:47
ducasseimmu_ubuntu: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/17:47
BenderRodriguezbut it failed17:47
MenzadorBenderRodriguez: Actually no it didn't. GNOME wasn't actually ever trying to cater to the mobile market. I can't think of a single touch device that shipped with GNOME.17:47
MenzadorBut yes, I think Adwaita should be toned down a bit17:48
immu_ubuntui cant sign into google17:48
MenzadorOh, that *is* something I need to do, lol17:48
ducasseimmu_ubuntu: offtopic here17:49
immu_ubuntuducasse:  did i say something on topic17:50
BluesKajhi immu_ubuntu  , just transferring some files to friends hdd , and what's up with you?17:51
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj:  after distro hopping i am back with ubuntu17:51
BluesKajgood choice immu_ubuntu , i've been playing around with debian stretch17:52
BenderRodriguezMenzador: What? The entire UI of Gnome 3 was designed around touch based devices17:55
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj: how is it?17:55
BenderRodriguezit even has purpose built touch gesture support documented: https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.14/touchscreen-gestures.html.en17:55
BenderRodriguezSo yes, it was designed for touch17:55
BenderRodriguezKeep in mind this was around a time when EVERYONE thought Mobile will be everything and desktop will be dead within a few years17:56
BenderRodriguezThat hasn't happened and the result is a disjoined project that has lots its way17:56
BenderRodriguezit's tragic, actually17:56
BenderRodriguezdisjointed*17:56
BluesKajimmu_ubuntu:  so far so good, I like it ...it's not prepackaged as much as kubuntu17:57
immu_ubuntuyou are always into kde BluesKaj :17:58
BluesKajimmu_ubuntu:  for about 12 yrs now17:58
immu_ubuntuwhich is a premier KDE distro but with .deb compatiblity17:59
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj:  which is a premier KDE distro but with .deb compatiblity18:00
MenzadorBenderRodriguez: Oh look, GNOME released touch-screen gestures. SEVEN releases after the initial 3.0 release.18:00
BluesKajkubuntuis probly first thenothers like netrunner and mint18:01
immu_ubuntui just love the hud of ubuntu BluesKaj18:01
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj:  i cant live without it18:03
* BluesKaj nods18:03
immu_ubuntuwhich kde are u using now? BluesKaj18:07
BluesKajkde/plasma 5.8.618:08
MenzadorBluesKaj: Do you use the Kubuntu Backports PPA?18:08
BluesKajon debian stretch, think plasma 5.9 on kubuntu zesty18:09
immu_ubuntumanjaro has very good KDE release18:09
MenzadorOh, you're using DEE-bee-in :)18:09
BluesKajMenzador:  i use ppas when asked to test the packages they contain , then i remove them immediately18:10
MenzadorAh18:10
immu_ubuntubrb BluesKaj18:11
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj: back i am running 17.04, and gconf is not available18:17
immu_ubuntuBluesKaj: you are running debian but you hangout here ????18:18
lotuspsychjeimmu_ubuntu: anyone is free to chat here18:18
immu_ubuntulotuspsychje: true, but just curious as maybe BluesKaj can best advise?18:19
BluesKajimmu_ubuntu:  I also run kubuntu zesty , try gconf218:20
immu_ubuntuhow many distros do you run? are they on VM or side by side BluesKaj18:21
BluesKajI use partitions, VMs aren't my style , too buggy18:22
BluesKajlots of users like VMs, but I haven't had much luck with them18:23
immu_ubuntuThe venerable gconf is no longer installed by default having been long superseded by gsettings.  BluesKaj18:23
BluesKajok18:24
immu_ubuntui need to file this has a bug issue as google chrome is not available in the distro18:25
immu_ubuntui had installed Ubuntu mate and then i install over it Ubuntu 17.04 so all my settings i believe where picked up by Ubuntu18:26
BluesKajthe chrome deb is available at their site18:26
immu_ubuntui picked it up from their only18:26
immu_ubuntuthere only18:26
BluesKajthe chrome repos was probly removed from sources.list.d when you installed 17.0418:29
immu_ubuntunot its gconf being removed from Ubuntu 17.0418:40
immuBluesKaj, can you reach youtube site18:51
daftykinsasking someone who might be on the other side of the world whether they can reach a given website is not a very sensible query18:52
ducasseimmu: i gave you a site that checks that earlier18:54
immuthats not working18:54
daftykinssounds like misconfigured DNS, but this is not a support channel18:55
immuwww.youtube.com’s server DNS address could not be found.18:55
immuDNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN18:55
daftykinsplease take your query to #ubuntu18:55
BluesKaj UAE probly blocks youtube19:03
daftykinsno doubt19:03
immunope i can watch it on my mobile BluesKaj19:03
immu_BluesKaj, back19:08
daftykinsstill not a support channel, please go to #ubuntu19:08
immu_daftykins, thanks19:12
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immu_wht is your prefered IRC software19:38
daftykinsirssi19:38
immu_gui based?19:39
daftykinsnope19:39
daftykinshexchat is an acceptable GUI one19:40
ducasseweechat here, which is pretty much the same thing as irssi19:40
immu_all available in ubuntu software or have to to use synaptic19:41
daftykins!info irssi19:41
ubot5irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.19-1ubuntu1.3 (xenial), package size 676 kB, installed size 2468 kB19:41
daftykins!info hexchat19:41
ubot5hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB19:41
daftykinsthe former.19:41
ducasseeverything in synaptic is available in ubuntu software, same sources.19:42
daftykinsah my bad yeah, misread19:42
* OerHeks deletes software-center19:42
immu_many IRC software are snap based19:42
daftykinsno reason for you to be using anything snap19:43
immu_daftykins, i installed two IRC software both are packaged in snap19:50
daftykinsok, but there's not really any benefit or disadvantage to that that i can think of19:52
immu_daftykins, i can use a webbased IRC like kiwiIRC which i like but having a software is nice19:53
daftykinsyeah web based is usually rubbish19:53
ducassethe confinement thing might make certain features not work right19:54
daftykinsplus when you come in a support channel on one, it doesn't look too great19:54
OerHekswe always look great, no ?19:59
daftykins;D19:59
immu_BluesKaj, welcome back20:02
BluesKajthanks, just here for few mins , DLing the latest Kubuntu Zesty test image, needed the link from the devs20:07
immu_i am going to try KDE Manjaro BluesKaj20:08
BluesKajhave fun immu_20:09
immu_BluesKaj, yeah20:09
immu_BluesKaj, i will have a lot of KDE query will bug you yeah later20:12
BluesKajI'll be leaving soon , other stuff to do today20:14
ducassehave fun BluesKaj - ttyl20:14
BluesKajright20:14
immu_BluesKaj, same here have fun20:16
BluesKajok later gents ...take care20:18
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Bashing-omAggravation factor : Need to prune the lawn; messed with the lawn mower for 2 days - starts will not run ! Aggravated !21:49
Bashing-omBut .. I am Here .. all is good :)21:50
OerHeks:-)21:55
daftykinsBashing-om: that sounds like a frustrating machine alright22:03
Bashing-omIn all Honesty - what I get for not taking care of my equipment . I did not put it up in the dry last fall :( A tarp just is not good enough !22:06
daftykinsah har22:07
daftykinswell, hindsight and all that :)22:08
Bashing-omUh HUh . Now, if I could I would kick my own behind :D22:09
daftykinstake up yoga for that one i think ;D22:10
Bashing-omPuts me in mind : if legs bent the other way .. what shape would a chair be ?22:11
OerHekseat grass, be smart22:12
daftykinshehe i love that question, mmm i suspect carpenters would get a challenge22:13
Bashing-omOerHeks: Well, that is what it is made for .. eat more grass !22:13
daftykinsthen again a client had one of these for many years - https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/92/84/be/9284be9c0ded13c6b57aed1c06bc0875.jpg22:14
Bashing-omdaftykins: I have toyed with the chair shape - given the cirumstances - for several years . No good solution to this time  .22:15
OerHeksthose chairs are good for your balance, still prefer a chair with a back-support22:17
daftykinsyeah, kinda forces your posture22:21
Bashing-omI just glad I have a chair - and a place to put it :) - and a cushion for the back .22:22
daftykins:D22:24
daftykinsyep simple things22:24
daftykinsi felt like i'd succeeded once i had a place to put the desk, PC, chair, mug of hot beverage and slice of cake22:24
Bashing-omAnd cake too ! Wow !22:26
daftykinsooh yes, can't be without cake22:26
OerHeksbacon & eggs22:30
daftykinsmm22:30
Bashing-omblack forest ham saammmich is doing well right now :P22:33
OerHeksbrie paris & chorizo spain22:33
daftykinstime for me to nip to the kitchen and put some pasta on22:36
daftykinsbbs22:36

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