[00:00] It's hard to tell which team channel I should go to. [00:02] Does the installer team have their own channel? [00:02] i just read mr dustin blog with suggestions http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2017/04/thank-you-note-to-hackernews.html [00:04] maybe it is #ubuntu-installer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList/Team [00:05] there is no mailing list https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer [05:42] to slow to hold my attention - g nite o/ [06:33] Good morning. [06:44] morning all [06:44] \o lordievader [06:44] Hey ducasse [06:44] How are you doing? [06:45] good thanks, how about you? [06:45] Doing good, having tea :D [06:47] same here, soon need another cup :) === lordievader is now known as Guest5998 === Guest5998 is now known as lordievader [10:58] Hiyas all [12:36] Hi everyone [12:53] Hi pauljw [12:54] hey BluesKaj :) [12:58] what's happening today ? [13:22] nothing here yet, BluesKaj. sun is shining, grass is growing... it was 32F about an hour ago. [13:22] don't know if you got that, my connection was hosed and i didn't realize it... :( [13:23] yeah i swa your disconnec there, but I knew you'd be back :-0 [13:24] oops scuse all the typos :-) [13:24] :) [16:19] good evening to all [16:22] \o lotuspsychje [16:22] how was movie night? [16:22] great ducasse how are you [16:22] ok, thanks. quiet saturday here. [16:23] ducasse: both nice movies [16:24] hey baizon [16:27] http://www.thelinuxrain.com/articles/heres-how-gnome-shell-can-look-like-ubuntu-unity [16:27] lol [16:27] alot of unity lovers out there [16:29] hmm, but i think ill switch from unity to kde [16:30] and try to make it look like unity [16:30] i dislike gnome very very much [16:30] http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Shuttleworth-More-G-Comments [16:30] gnome with unity ideas lol [16:32] snaps will continue [16:35] but unity 8 wont :( [16:36] yeah too bad, would have been nice to have the choice [16:37] baizon: lets hope the ubports guys find a big breakthrough [16:37] someone remember the variables trigger? [16:39] that will take a long time [16:39] they dont have the resources i think [16:40] baizon: im not sure, cause mariogrip is on that project, he made a big deal on several phones [16:41] baizon: but indeed, i understand its not the same as its supported by ubuntu by default.. [17:07] wb Menzador [17:07] yo [17:17] hey brunch875 [17:34] hi [17:42] immu_ubuntu: what is your thoughts on Shuttleworth's decisionto kill Unity [17:42] i respect his decision [17:42] ... [17:42] * BenderRodriguez takes immu_ubuntu off his cool people [17:42] list [17:43] but at the same time i am deeply saddened with the decision also [17:44] I suspect we kde/plasma users don't care one way or the other, at least I don't :-) [17:44] Unity8 was so close to completion but without support of others its hard to justify the cost that was draining the companies profitablity [17:46] can someone confirm if google services are down or not [17:46] hey BluesKaj whats up [17:46] BluesKaj: Lol, that's OK. I've been a GNOME advocate ever since I got my hands on the latest version of it :) [17:46] Really [17:46] afaik a lot of ubuntu users thought shuttleworth was taking Canonical in the wrong direction anyway [17:47] GNOME 3 was an attempt at joining the mobile/touchpad bandwagon [17:47] Which is interesting. [17:47] with it's huge UI buttons [17:47] thats true BluesKaj [17:47] immu_ubuntu: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [17:47] but it failed [17:47] BenderRodriguez: Actually no it didn't. GNOME wasn't actually ever trying to cater to the mobile market. I can't think of a single touch device that shipped with GNOME. [17:48] But yes, I think Adwaita should be toned down a bit [17:48] i cant sign into google [17:48] Oh, that *is* something I need to do, lol [17:49] immu_ubuntu: offtopic here [17:50] ducasse: did i say something on topic [17:51] hi immu_ubuntu , just transferring some files to friends hdd , and what's up with you? [17:51] BluesKaj: after distro hopping i am back with ubuntu [17:52] good choice immu_ubuntu , i've been playing around with debian stretch [17:55] Menzador: What? The entire UI of Gnome 3 was designed around touch based devices [17:55] BluesKaj: how is it? [17:55] it even has purpose built touch gesture support documented: https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.14/touchscreen-gestures.html.en [17:55] So yes, it was designed for touch [17:56] Keep in mind this was around a time when EVERYONE thought Mobile will be everything and desktop will be dead within a few years [17:56] That hasn't happened and the result is a disjoined project that has lots its way [17:56] it's tragic, actually [17:56] disjointed* [17:57] immu_ubuntu: so far so good, I like it ...it's not prepackaged as much as kubuntu [17:58] you are always into kde BluesKaj : [17:58] immu_ubuntu: for about 12 yrs now [17:59] which is a premier KDE distro but with .deb compatiblity [18:00] BluesKaj: which is a premier KDE distro but with .deb compatiblity [18:00] BenderRodriguez: Oh look, GNOME released touch-screen gestures. SEVEN releases after the initial 3.0 release. [18:01] kubuntuis probly first thenothers like netrunner and mint [18:01] i just love the hud of ubuntu BluesKaj [18:03] BluesKaj: i cant live without it [18:03] * BluesKaj nods [18:07] which kde are u using now? BluesKaj [18:08] kde/plasma 5.8.6 [18:08] BluesKaj: Do you use the Kubuntu Backports PPA? [18:09] on debian stretch, think plasma 5.9 on kubuntu zesty [18:09] manjaro has very good KDE release [18:09] Oh, you're using DEE-bee-in :) [18:10] Menzador: i use ppas when asked to test the packages they contain , then i remove them immediately [18:10] Ah [18:11] brb BluesKaj [18:17] BluesKaj: back i am running 17.04, and gconf is not available [18:18] BluesKaj: you are running debian but you hangout here ???? [18:18] immu_ubuntu: anyone is free to chat here [18:19] lotuspsychje: true, but just curious as maybe BluesKaj can best advise? [18:20] immu_ubuntu: I also run kubuntu zesty , try gconf2 [18:21] how many distros do you run? are they on VM or side by side BluesKaj [18:22] I use partitions, VMs aren't my style , too buggy [18:23] lots of users like VMs, but I haven't had much luck with them [18:23] The venerable gconf is no longer installed by default having been long superseded by gsettings. BluesKaj [18:24] ok [18:25] i need to file this has a bug issue as google chrome is not available in the distro [18:26] i had installed Ubuntu mate and then i install over it Ubuntu 17.04 so all my settings i believe where picked up by Ubuntu [18:26] the chrome deb is available at their site [18:26] i picked it up from their only [18:26] there only [18:29] the chrome repos was probly removed from sources.list.d when you installed 17.04 [18:40] not its gconf being removed from Ubuntu 17.04 [18:51] BluesKaj, can you reach youtube site [18:52] asking someone who might be on the other side of the world whether they can reach a given website is not a very sensible query [18:54] immu: i gave you a site that checks that earlier [18:54] thats not working [18:55] sounds like misconfigured DNS, but this is not a support channel [18:55] www.youtube.com’s server DNS address could not be found. [18:55] DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN [18:55] please take your query to #ubuntu [19:03] UAE probly blocks youtube [19:03] no doubt [19:03] nope i can watch it on my mobile BluesKaj [19:08] BluesKaj, back [19:08] still not a support channel, please go to #ubuntu [19:12] daftykins, thanks === IdleOne is now known as Guest93332 [19:38] wht is your prefered IRC software [19:38] irssi [19:39] gui based? [19:39] nope [19:40] hexchat is an acceptable GUI one [19:40] weechat here, which is pretty much the same thing as irssi [19:41] all available in ubuntu software or have to to use synaptic [19:41] !info irssi [19:41] irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.19-1ubuntu1.3 (xenial), package size 676 kB, installed size 2468 kB [19:41] !info hexchat [19:41] hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB [19:41] the former. [19:42] everything in synaptic is available in ubuntu software, same sources. [19:42] ah my bad yeah, misread [19:42] * OerHeks deletes software-center [19:42] many IRC software are snap based [19:43] no reason for you to be using anything snap [19:50] daftykins, i installed two IRC software both are packaged in snap [19:52] ok, but there's not really any benefit or disadvantage to that that i can think of [19:53] daftykins, i can use a webbased IRC like kiwiIRC which i like but having a software is nice [19:53] yeah web based is usually rubbish [19:54] the confinement thing might make certain features not work right [19:54] plus when you come in a support channel on one, it doesn't look too great [19:59] we always look great, no ? [19:59] ;D [20:02] BluesKaj, welcome back [20:07] thanks, just here for few mins , DLing the latest Kubuntu Zesty test image, needed the link from the devs [20:08] i am going to try KDE Manjaro BluesKaj [20:09] have fun immu_ [20:09] BluesKaj, yeah [20:12] BluesKaj, i will have a lot of KDE query will bug you yeah later [20:14] I'll be leaving soon , other stuff to do today [20:14] have fun BluesKaj - ttyl [20:14] right [20:16] BluesKaj, same here have fun [20:18] ok later gents ...take care === Guest93332 is now known as IdleOne [21:49] Aggravation factor : Need to prune the lawn; messed with the lawn mower for 2 days - starts will not run ! Aggravated ! [21:50] But .. I am Here .. all is good :) [21:55] :-) [22:03] Bashing-om: that sounds like a frustrating machine alright [22:06] In all Honesty - what I get for not taking care of my equipment . I did not put it up in the dry last fall :( A tarp just is not good enough ! [22:07] ah har [22:08] well, hindsight and all that :) [22:09] Uh HUh . Now, if I could I would kick my own behind :D [22:10] take up yoga for that one i think ;D [22:11] Puts me in mind : if legs bent the other way .. what shape would a chair be ? [22:12] eat grass, be smart [22:13] hehe i love that question, mmm i suspect carpenters would get a challenge [22:13] OerHeks: Well, that is what it is made for .. eat more grass ! [22:14] then again a client had one of these for many years - https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/92/84/be/9284be9c0ded13c6b57aed1c06bc0875.jpg [22:15] daftykins: I have toyed with the chair shape - given the cirumstances - for several years . No good solution to this time . [22:17] those chairs are good for your balance, still prefer a chair with a back-support [22:21] yeah, kinda forces your posture [22:22] I just glad I have a chair - and a place to put it :) - and a cushion for the back . [22:24] :D [22:24] yep simple things [22:24] i felt like i'd succeeded once i had a place to put the desk, PC, chair, mug of hot beverage and slice of cake [22:26] And cake too ! Wow ! [22:26] ooh yes, can't be without cake [22:30] bacon & eggs [22:30] mm [22:33] black forest ham saammmich is doing well right now :P [22:33] brie paris & chorizo spain [22:36] time for me to nip to the kitchen and put some pasta on [22:36] bbs