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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:37
ali1234can someone help me with gnome?12:29
ali1234how do i use it?12:29
diddledanali1234: I have no idea. it confuses me immensely. :-(13:20
ali1234i figured it out. you open gnome-tweak-tool and turn off activities, turn on applications and places13:20
ali1234and window list13:20
ali1234its not that bad, except for the theme is awful13:21
SuperEngineerthat's coz you didn't do the hokey kokey13:36
diddledandon't forget to turn around13:42
SuperEngineer:D13:44
penguin42installing xfce instead seems the easiest way17:18
foobarrycould 17.04 be the most pointless release in years? or to unity lovers, the last great release?20:03
daftykinswell it won'y be supported long, being non-LTS20:03
daftykins*won't20:03
penguin42has anyone got Unity into Debian unstable etc?20:04
foobarrywhats strange is that i've been happy using elementary for years20:09
foobarrysince i left ubuntu desktop after unity and wanted a similar gnome2+docky experience20:09
foobarryand considered that gnome shell sucked more than unity. tried it for a good while and had major issues with buggy and necessary extensions crashing all the time, and awful workflow20:10
* penguin42 has used xfce for a few years, never really used unity, but I think it's not bad for a touchscreen one that doesn't break normal mouse usage20:10
foobarrybut now considering moving back to the buntu20:10
foobarrysince the last elementary release has some bad bugs that the devs seem uninterested in because they are the creative type. once the release is out they don't seem too keen on fixing the experience if it works for them20:12
daftykinsthat distro did seem very poor given the number of folks that used to come into #ubuntu with gripes20:13
daftykinsand nobody in official channels interested in helping them20:13
foobarryapart from libinput which i worked around, the suspend issues after detaching anoher monitor and network/wifi issues on restart are killing me20:16
foobarryi need to try stock ubuntu to check if its bad on there too20:16
foobarrywow kylin looks very windowsy20:18
foobarrythe stock gnome experience still sucks , judging by extension reviews "i wouldn't use gnome without this extension", etc20:19
foobarrybut what if that extension isn't updated for 3.24 version?20:21
penguin42the problems with extensions is that they keep breaking20:21
foobarrystill20:23
foobarry?20:23
foobarrywell that sucks20:23
foobarryi tried it 4 yrs ago20:23
foobarrythey crashed a lot20:23
foobarryand you had to remove them all to find out , such an awful user experience20:24
foobarryreducing title bar size would be useful too. seems non trivial20:26
daftykinswhy not xubuntu or kubuntu instead? it's not the end of the world20:33
zmoylan-pifor that we'll have to wait and see what trump does next week... :-P20:53
penguin42cruise missiles are a bit harsh just for unity20:54
zmoylan-piat least they don't have gnome installed...20:54
penguin42zmoylan-pi: Yeh that simplified the choice of missiles because they thoughts presidents found it too confusing; the choice is now between a BB-gun and a thermonuclear missile20:55
zmoylan-piwell.... obama favoured drone delivered hellfire missiles so those tomahawks were probably close to their use by dates20:56

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