[06:03] <manjaro-web|5468> is bluez here?
[06:21] <ducasse> morning
[06:23] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Ready for the shift change :)
[06:24] <ducasse> hiya Bashing-om - how are things in your little corner of the world? :)
[06:24] <immu_manjo_kde> ducasse: hey whats up
[06:25] <ducasse> hi :)
[06:27] <ducasse> Bashing-om: 28 zesty updates since last night, things are moving rapidly now as we get closer to release
[06:27] <immu_manjo_kde> if gcc and gcc-multilib are in conflict which one i should choose
[06:30] <Bashing-om> ducasse: trials, troubles and trubulations - all small in comparison . Gots to do yard growth prunning and the mower will not run :( // Will catch up on zesty in the AM .
[06:34] <ducasse> Bashing-om: sorry about your mower :( i'm thinking of doing some planting around my porch this spring, it looks so naked now.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Time and money heals many things :) We want to plant roses along the front fence - we see what works out .
[06:45] <ducasse> Bashing-om: are you going to attack the mower with a screwdriver or get it serviced?
[06:45] <Bashing-om> Backing out and going down . g nite \o
[07:47] <immu_manjo_kde> .
[10:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:36] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj
[10:36] <ducasse> everything good?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, yes, just fine, and you?
[10:40] <ducasse> good thanks :) got a bit on my plate today, but that's just a good thing.
[10:43] <BluesKaj> heh, yeah ..gonna be a nice day here , so some yard work is on the 'to do' list
[10:54] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i'm planning to replace the root disk in my file server, which is a major operation
[10:55] <BluesKaj> NAS?
[10:56] <ducasse> no, a self-built machine with a ton of disks, ubuntu+zfs
[10:56] <ducasse> _thinking_ about migrating it to freenas, but...
[10:56] <BluesKaj> clone / or dd it?
[10:57] <ducasse> BluesKaj: neither, unfortunately. a full fresh install and all it entails, because reasons. :)
[10:59] <BluesKaj> I don't have a large media server since I don't save movies , only music and pics, so it's merely an outboard sata hdd, no  server OS needed
[11:01] <ducasse> i have decades worth of stuff, and i'm a serious packrat. also most is on zfs mirrors, so 2x number of necessary disks.
[11:06] <ducasse> seems i'll be getting some tax money back in june, so i'm considering a synology or qnap, but the problem is i really need more than 4 disks and that's not cheap.
[11:07] <ducasse> also it feels a bit silly to have an enterprise nas in an apartment :)
[11:10] <BluesKaj> I just save photos and music, we don't have much family video, and movies are usually rented, once watched, then usually forgotten except for the Christmas classics ...so no need for anything larger than 1TB hdd for media and backup
[11:19] <ducasse> i do have a bit of media as well, i have an extensive cd collection ripped to both flac and mp3, ripped dvds etc.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  yes, I've edited my music collection down to stuff I really like, and 90% of that is in wav format on the hdd, the rest is either on vinyl or cd.
[11:29] <immu_manjo_kde> BluesKaj: hey whats up?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> hey immu_manjo_kde
[11:32] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i want everything (and i do mean everything) available as flac through mpd, i haven't found a better way to play it all. i don't want spotify etc.
[11:36] <BluesKaj> flac is ok, but on the fly decompression is suspect IMO , it'a another layer of audio processing, sort of like pulseaudio
[11:38] <BluesKaj> but I'm probly somewhat of a purist
[11:39] <immu_manjo_kde> BluesKaj: i am Manjaro KDE
[11:41] <BluesKaj> no, you could have fooled me, immu_manjo_kde :-)
[11:42] <ducasse> BluesKaj: the overhead is negligible :)
[11:42] <immu_manjo_kde> BluesKaj: how come?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> well BBL , gotta test the latest kubuntu zesty
[11:42] <ducasse> immu_manjo_kde: your nick, probably?
[11:43] <immu_manjo_kde> bluesKaj ducasse, he inspired me to go for KDE.
[11:44] <ducasse> why manjaro, though?
[11:50] <immu_manjo_kde> ducasse: i had installed it before and liked it, but anyways ended up in Ubuntu
[12:02] <immu_manjo_kde> ducasse: you? which distro
[12:04] <ducasse> arch and ubuntu, depending on what i use the machine for
[12:12] <immu_manjo_kde> ducasse: did u see blues around? has he? come back
[12:12] <immu_manjo_kde> brb
[13:33] <immu_manjo_kde> what is the state of Ubuntu? now when its so close to release
[13:33] <immu_manjo_kde> 17.04 that is
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu 17.04 latest image runs just fine, but of course that depneds on your hadware and associated drivers
[13:36] <BluesKaj> immu_manjo_kde: ^
[13:40] <immu_manjo_kde> i might again go back to Ubuntu , i am so attached to it BluesKaj
[14:24] <BluesKaj> DJones:  I'm a kde/plsama user so a lot of the discussion about unity gnome etc doesn't interest me much
[14:25] <BluesKaj> plasma
[15:59] <immu_manjo_kde> BluesKaj: who is the ubuntu guy here
[16:14] <ducasse> immu_manjo_kde: we're all ubuntu guys :)
[16:25] <immu_manjo_kde> true ducasse BluesKaj
[16:25] <immu_manjo_kde> brb going for resintall see u today or tomm
[18:20] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[18:20] <ducasse> evening/morning/whatever pauljw :)
[18:21] <pauljw> hey ducasse, 2:20pm here.  :)
[18:24] <ducasse> 20:21, will soon be getting ready for sleepytime :)
[18:25] <pauljw> ah.
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Another case : " what part of NO do you not understand " ?
[23:31] <daftykins> hehe, persistent customer? :)
[23:34] <Bashing-om> daftykins: wubi ... need I say more ? Just will not accept that it is dead .
[23:35] <daftykins> oh dear!