studio-user773 | hey all, is there a tutorial for the cool US tools? | 00:43 |
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studio-user723 | Nunca consegui dirigir sonido a los speakers, Scarlet 6i6 está certificada para Linux t Ubuntu. Complete audio 6 también pero nada | 06:47 |
studio-user723 | He probado de mil . Mo gustaría dejar Windows de lado. Peroódicamente lo intento exaustivamente con nuevas configuraciones y trucos aprendidos en la red. NADA. DESISTO | 06:50 |
studio-user723 | ADIOS?.....adios | 06:52 |
studio-user723 | You can hear me here; https://soundcloud.com/drodemotta | 06:54 |
studio-user723 | Returning to windows. Damm | 06:55 |
studio-user319 | { | 13:37 |
Gharuda | Hello peeps am unable to setup jack | 17:43 |
Gharuda | i'm wondering if maybe i am retarded | 17:44 |
Gharuda | anny help whould be appreciated | 17:44 |
Gharuda | i am altho reluctand to share my screen with strangers on the webs | 17:44 |
Gharuda | also the utility to map the buttons on my wacom tablet is not working | 17:45 |
Gharuda | sinewav | 17:52 |
Gharuda | can u helps me get jack workingz | 17:52 |
sinewav | hello | 17:52 |
Gharuda | i dont undertand why it was to be so complicated | 17:52 |
sinewav | I don't know much about Jack. What kind of problem are you having? | 17:53 |
Gharuda | If i whould know what the problem is i whould't be here /D | 17:53 |
Gharuda | I cant get anny sound out of it | 17:53 |
Gharuda | my interface shows up twice | 17:54 |
sinewav | Are you launching it from the command line or Qjackctl? | 17:54 |
Gharuda | There is no audio output | 17:54 |
Gharuda | I'm using Qjack | 17:54 |
sinewav | you are using an external or internal interface? | 17:55 |
Gharuda | External | 17:55 |
sinewav | which model? | 17:55 |
Gharuda | its an audio dj 8 from NI | 17:55 |
sinewav | AH | 17:55 |
sinewav | hold on. | 17:55 |
Gharuda | i can get my firefox strem to output thru my interface in sound settings | 17:56 |
Gharuda | so i know its not a driver issue | 17:56 |
Gharuda | but i dont think that uses jack | 17:56 |
sinewav | First, it that device should show up twice. There should be two separate audio channels. Is one marked 1/2 and the other marked 3/4? | 17:57 |
sinewav | The Native Instruments gear should have class-compliant audio interfaces, which means you should have basic functionality, but special features might not be available and are sometimes dependent on the OS and native software. | 18:01 |
Gharuda | One is listed as hW 2 | 18:01 |
sinewav | no sound comes from either of them? | 18:01 |
Gharuda | and t he other one as hw 2,0 | 18:01 |
Gharuda | well i don't exactly now how to test that :D | 18:01 |
Gharuda | as i'm also not sure if midi is working | 18:02 |
sinewav | so, what happens when you start Jack from Qjackctl? | 18:02 |
sinewav | Do you get an error? | 18:02 |
sinewav | brb, laundry... | 18:05 |
Gharuda | hello i'm back | 18:09 |
Gharuda | system froze | 18:09 |
Gharuda | Shoudn't i just have the option to routz AUdio DS 8 channel 4 to chanel D ? | 18:11 |
sinewav | Sometimes Jack gets the numbers backwards. | 18:13 |
sinewav | That's how it is on my system. My 1/2 is actually my C/D | 18:13 |
sinewav | What are you trying to play through Jack? system sounds? | 18:14 |
Gharuda | In audio the ony writable clients are Pulse audio jack sourse and system | 18:14 |
Gharuda | audio dj 8 is not even mentioned | 18:14 |
Gharuda | right now i have qsynth running | 18:14 |
sinewav | Which version of Qjackctl? | 18:15 |
Gharuda | but i wanted to set up an effect on channel 3 | 18:15 |
Gharuda | THe defaut one | 18:15 |
Gharuda | that ships with studio | 18:15 |
sinewav | Sorry, I actually don't have Ubuntu Studio 16.04 installed right now. I'm using MATE until certain XFCE bugs get fixed. | 18:16 |
Gharuda | buggs like ? | 18:16 |
sinewav | In the setup area, have you chosen an interface? | 18:16 |
Gharuda | yes | 18:17 |
sinewav | which one? | 18:17 |
Gharuda | I picked Hw:Audio8DJ2 | 18:17 |
sinewav | OK good. But the device doesn't show up in the "connections" list under audio? | 18:18 |
Gharuda | nope | 18:18 |
sinewav | I see. | 18:18 |
Gharuda | so nothing can be done then i gues ? | 18:19 |
sinewav | And you don't get any messages when you start Qjackctl? There is a message window that should give you information | 18:19 |
Gharuda | nope | 18:19 |
Gharuda | only the JAck audio connection kit(default) start's | 18:20 |
sinewav | well that is very strange! | 18:20 |
sinewav | Ok, I haven't experienced a problem like this, but there are people better equipped to help. Are you familiar with linuxmusicians.com? | 18:21 |
Gharuda | Nope | 18:21 |
Gharuda | i'll go ask over there then | 18:21 |
sinewav | It is a very active community. Pretty much the place to go for help with Linux Audio (because Linux Audio is a FUCKING NIGHTMARE) | 18:21 |
Gharuda | whould you have anny idea how to get gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Wacom+Control+Panel?content=104309 working :D | 18:21 |
sinewav | Yes, do that. Explain that you can choose the interface in Qjackctl but it does not show up in the connections window. | 18:22 |
sinewav | OH GOD don't get me started on the WACOM problems.... | 18:22 |
sinewav | The Wacom control panels only seems to work well under the Gnome Desktop Environment, not XFCE. | 18:23 |
Gharuda | Fuck my life | 18:24 |
Gharuda | this seemed so ideal :'( | 18:24 |
sinewav | Although, the XFCE Wacom support is fairly good compared to other Linux distributions. | 18:24 |
sinewav | Yeah, Linux is fucking terrible for art and media. It sucks, I'm sorry. | 18:24 |
Gharuda | i dont wanne type shit to configure | 18:24 |
Gharuda | yeah but it runs houdini better then windows :D | 18:24 |
Gharuda | and audio drivers are better | 18:25 |
Gharuda | plug and play whould be nice tho | 18:25 |
Gharuda | :D | 18:25 |
sinewav | I actually use Windows audio software in Linux under WINE | 18:25 |
Gharuda | i'd like to learn to program and help with that | 18:25 |
Gharuda | why not use bitwig ? | 18:25 |
sinewav | Bitwig seems great, I just haven't bought it yet. Too accustomed to my old software. | 18:26 |
Gharuda | I'm crying that ableton doesn't make a linux port :'( | 18:26 |
Gharuda | bitwig only has 1 year of free updates | 18:26 |
sinewav | Bitwig is made from people who worked for Ableton and wanted to go in a different direction. | 18:27 |
sinewav | From what I can tell it's superior. | 18:27 |
sinewav | But Ableton is old and entrenched in culture. | 18:27 |
Gharuda | From what i can tell bitwig just lookes better at first sight but isn't as deep and the ui is one big cluttery mess | 18:28 |
sinewav | Weird! When I tried the Bitwig demo I found it intuitive. That's just how software is. It's the advice I give to everyone looking to get into music production. I say "download every demo you can and pick the one that make the most sense since that all to basically the same thing." | 18:29 |
sinewav | *they all | 18:30 |
Gharuda | (yeah demo .... not friendly naborhood pirated software) | 18:30 |
Gharuda | until you go for a full release ofc | 18:31 |
Gharuda | you cant learn a workflow on the demo | 18:31 |
sinewav | Also, if you are interested in a clear-headed but kind of depressing read, Louigi Verona wrote an article recently about the state of Linux Audio: | 18:32 |
sinewav | http://www.louigiverona.com/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=linux_linuxaudio | 18:32 |
Gharuda | Well im mainly here for houdini | 18:34 |
Gharuda | audio is secondairy | 18:34 |
Gharuda | i just wanne have bitwig running when i wanne fool around | 18:34 |
sinewav | OK good. Linux is a tough platform for creative types unless you are using Blender. | 18:34 |
Gharuda | well i also want just want to generally learn linux | 18:36 |
Gharuda | as i want to go into ops for linux | 18:36 |
Gharuda | but i know nothing for now | 18:36 |
sinewav | It's a good thing to know. I jumped into Linux back in 2010 without any knowledge of IT and Programming, but now that's my job, and I got it because I know enough about how to configure Linux servers. So that's cool. Good luck to you! | 18:44 |
Gharuda | thx | 19:18 |
Gharuda | how'd you learn ? | 19:18 |
Gharuda | Btw xsetwacom set is not recognising either HDMi-1-1 or Head 1 It returns Unknown parameter name ... | 19:19 |
sinewav | I learned Linux by coming up with increasingly complicated projects to work on. Eventually I took a certificate class at the local college that went over Linux servers and that helped out a lot. | 19:30 |
sinewav | Here is a good website for basics: https://linuxjourney.com/ | 19:31 |
Gharuda | THx | 19:31 |
Gharuda | Does gnome eat more reqaurces then lxde | 19:31 |
Gharuda | i realy need to map my tablet to one screen and xsetwacom aint working for shit | 19:32 |
sinewav | Really, there isn't much difference between the popular DEs like MATE, XFCE, GNOME, and Cinnamon. LXDE is very light and KDE is heavier on average, but not by much. | 19:33 |
sinewav | lxde | 19:33 |
sinewav | * | 19:33 |
Gharuda | yeah i'm not going to switch to something that uses X4 ram | 19:33 |
Gharuda | But why wont this shit recognise HDMI-1-1 as an output | 19:34 |
sinewav | The biggest problem in Linux isn't how much RAM a DE uses, but how well it performs with shitty video chipsets. | 19:34 |
sinewav | Some compositors are worse than others | 19:34 |
Gharuda | are you referring to gpu ? | 19:34 |
sinewav | Yeah, GPU. You might want to check the "Additional Drivers" utility and see of there are drivers that will help you with the HDMI problem. | 19:35 |
Gharuda | I already switched to the nvidea drivers | 19:35 |
Gharuda | i have a reletivly recent gpu | 19:36 |
Gharuda | 860M if i'm not wrong | 19:36 |
sinewav | Ah. Well, I'm not sure what else to do about it other than combing through https://ubuntuforums.org/ | 19:37 |
sinewav | Also, the Linux Mint forums are usually better than the Ubuntu ones. | 19:37 |
sinewav | Curiously, Mint has been slightly more popular than Ubuntu for several years. | 19:38 |
Gharuda | Mint is the worst peace of shit looking distro in tha universe :D | 19:38 |
sinewav | ha | 19:38 |
Gharuda | Its more poplular becouse people use it for their grandparents | 19:39 |
Gharuda | so it gets used on family members who will alwatys be nubs | 19:39 |
sinewav | yeah I haven't used it in years. Although thanks to Mint I'm no using Ubuntu with the MATE Desktop. | 19:39 |
Gharuda | So for each person that knows linux that one is prob used +1 | 19:39 |
sinewav | now using* | 19:39 |
Gharuda | But its so fuuugly ? | 19:40 |
sinewav | MATE? | 19:40 |
sinewav | Yeah it's ugly. | 19:40 |
sinewav | But I don't need much in a DE. I just need things out of my way. | 19:40 |
sinewav | I'll most likely switch back to Ubuntu Studio when 18.04 is realeased. | 19:42 |
sinewav | I've been avoiding Thunar because there are some serious bugs that need fixing. (They aren't quite fixed yet). | 19:42 |
Unit193 | Tried out the latest release? .11 fixed some major crashing issues. | 19:43 |
Gharuda | Oj unit | 19:43 |
Gharuda | cans you help me | 19:43 |
Gharuda | i cant set my wacom tablet to use only my right screen | 19:44 |
Gharuda | system returns unknown parameter value when i assign it to HEAD-1 | 19:44 |
sinewav | No I haven't, but I'll definitely check out .11 when I see it in a distro. | 19:44 |
Gharuda | (server display config in nvidea server display is empty | 19:46 |
studio-user782 | Hi everyone - Pete here from NZ. First time using IRC, so I hope I get the netiquette right! Does anyone here know about bootloader problems, because my computer froze partway through a software update and messed up GRUB so now it just gives me a > prompt and I'm having to boot from a Live USB of the latest release? | 21:28 |
Unit193 | Sounds like a case of live cd, chroot in, grub-install and update grub. | 21:29 |
studio-user782 | Thanks, Unit193. Will it make any difference that I'm on Xenial and that the Software Updater gave me what it called a "partial upgrade" to get over previous problems it had during an update? | 21:33 |
Unit193 | I don't use "Software Updater", presumably you're still on Xenial though, so in that case while I was chrooted in I'd complete the updates too. | 21:41 |
studio-user782 | Sounds like a good plan. I'm more of a skilled user than a sysadmin, so my knowledge is a bit sketchy: I've never chrooted before. I've got two volumes mounted from my damaged system: one small one that looks like it should be /boot, and one big one that looks like it should be root (/). What do you think I should do to chroot in, and what result should I expect? (Thanks so much for your help, by the way!) | 21:59 |
Unit193 | You'll have to mount / in, say, /target/ then /boot in /target/boot, and since I'm lazy and don't want to do all the setup, I use a script for the bindmounting and chrooting in. | 22:02 |
studio-user782 | I don't suppose you could share your script, could you? | 22:07 |
Unit193 | It's (patched) from the unpackaged arch-install-scripts package. Basically bindmounts dev, proc, sys, etc, devpts in. | 22:08 |
krytarik | studio-user782: I'll just generally link this now..: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 | 22:09 |
Unit193 | https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/arch-chroot | 22:10 |
Unit193 | Oooh, right. Instructions! Nice choice. :D | 22:10 |
krytarik | :P | 22:10 |
Unit193 | Forget I linked that one. :P | 22:10 |
studio-user782 | You two are awesome! | 22:11 |
* Unit193 gives krytarik more points for actually linking normal instructions. | 22:12 | |
krytarik | \o/ | 22:13 |
studio-user782 | That's great - I'm going to give that a go. :) | 22:14 |
Unit193 | (Though that method isn't as fun. >_> ) | 22:15 |
studio-user590 | Hello | 22:55 |
studio-user782 | Hey, Unit193, I scrolled down until I found instructions that looked like they matched your method and I've repaired GRUB. It complained about a missing EFI directory, but I found it (/dev/sda1), mounted it under my chrooted /boot/efi and did the grub-install again with no errors reported. | 23:53 |
studio-user782 | Thanks again! | 23:53 |
Unit193 | AH! UEFI! And glad you got it, and reported back. | 23:54 |
Unit193 | "Welcome. | 23:54 |
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